The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1954 I Don't Deserve a Bath

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

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I got stuff all right. Let's hear what you got Put the air date on this show somewhere on there and verbally probably discuss it before the show starts. But there's been a lot of stuff going on. You're actually going to be in New York as this airs. That's right. Yeah, I told you, you're going to find my ghost walking around the streets of New York when I'm gone. It's just something so satisfying about being in that city. There's nothing else like it. I mean maybe Paris kind of comes close or something or London but there's this it's such a human place. There's so much about the history and the human experience and people out everywhere all the time. Yeah. There's nothing else like it. No, I agree.

I don't, it's funny when you, I think the yardstick where you can measure that is restaurants and how late they stay open because I'll go to towns, God, I'm trying to think where I was recently, but I mean, it's like, I'll go to places in this country, and I'm like, well, we're gonna do the show, and then we wanna have dinner afterwards.

It's like, everything closes at 8.30. And it's like, oh, there's not a lot going on. Now, I'm not talking about jazz clubs, I'm just talking about just going out for a late meal. You know, like, one of the real treats in New York is the late supper thing, right? And there's a lot of places you can. Like one of the real treats in New York is the late supper thing, right? There's a lot of places you can. Except.

Oh, after COVID. Yeah, so after COVID, everything started closing down to 10. Now it's creeping back to a more normal thing, but yeah, it was weird for a while there. I mean, the bars would lock up at 11. Lock, lock their doors. Yeah, COVID is a scourge, Drew.

You know, there's a lot to be learned. I'm trying to stay positive about it. Yes. But I would like some apologies from a lot of people for a lot of things. Well, the thing about the apology and the self-reflection and that kind of thing. It's a bygone era and it was about character,

things that never get brought up ever, ever, character. We gotta bring that back. It's not coming back. Really? No. I thought you and I were gonna have a personal campaign to bring it back. You're never gonna get people to go along with it. Really? No. I thought you and I were going to have a personal campaign to bring it back. You're never going to get people to go along with it.

Really? I always feel like that's something that kind of comes and goes. I mean, even in Simon and Gomorrah, it comes back. Character, no. It is something that a handful of people will embrace, safe spaces and octagons. Character is an issue and chivalry is kind of an issue and we don't like it and we're

not really, we're not embracing it as a society. I always feel like we've gone through this weird period and we'll bring back some version of it. Some integrated new whatever. Well look all character is is doing shit you don't want to do that may benefit somebody other than you. Yes. Which is what's right. Or if you do something you take others into consideration. Part of it. Yeah I mean to me character is. Accurately too by the way. Character is you go to the bank and you make a $100 deposit in your checking account

that has $500 in it and you give them $100 and then they hand you a receipt that says there's $1,600 in there now, or I should say $1,500 now, because they put in 1,000 instead of 100. She hit an extra zero. Character is stopping and going, I gotta go back in line, and I'm gonna go refine this teller, and I'm gonna tell them that I

deposited a hundred dollars and they deposit a thousand dollars in my account. Now how many people will do that? Well far less now than would have done it a hundred years ago or fifty years ago. It's a issue, it's everywhere. Money and lawyers have been a lot responsible for this. Parenting has been this way. People generally just being soft and really soft on themselves. Like really easy on themselves. Do you notice that? Way too forgiving and way too accommodating. So it feels to me like we can't go on like that. There has to be some restoration. No, it'll go on. It'll just be a greater chasm between the character people and the non-character

people. The non-character people will fall behind. So it reminds me of this article I just recently read that was making the case that, I don't know if this is, you know, how factually accurate this, but it was an interesting idea, which was essentially that he, this man had studied rise and falls of civilizations, and he discovered, according to him, that societies that devalued virginity and encouraged sexual promiscuity spiraled out like unraveled in three generations. Yeah, it's diet and exercise. But that's part of the character phenomenon, isn't it?

Kind of, you know, valuing yourself and your chastity and your, not saying you have to be a virgin, but sort of not being promiscuous. A character is very much related to delayed gratification. Yeah. And we're losing delayed gratification. But what I'm asking is, if we don't restore something, are we not asking for unraveling

in the next couple generations? We're unraveling. I mean, we're already unraveling, obviously. So you don't think it can be a spring back? There's never gonna be a spring back without shame. And we're not- And judging. Judging without shame. And we're not… And judging. Judging and shame. Yeah.

And we're not doing a sufficient amount of judging and shaming. Guilty. That's a guy thought. That's a guy process and activity, the judging and the shaming, I think, to a certain degree. And we're getting away from that. And guys, we're sort of in a weird space where look judging and shaming leads to sort of de facto character because you don't want to get called out and you don't be shamed from a societal

standpoint and we're getting away we're getting away from all the things that lead to character. And so I'm not optimistic about character. Now character is a long, it's a delayed gratification game. Character, big picture gets you a lot in life. Big picture gets you a lot in life. Short term, your savings account has 900 bucks less in it than it did five minutes ago because of the error that the bank made.

So short term, not good. Long term, good. But people are now so wired for short term that they're going to take the short term over the big picture delayed gratification long term and thus they're going to lose character along the way. So we, you know, when you and I, now I grew up in an environment in a family with no hyperbole Nothing was ever ordered and nothing ever showed up There was not there was no such thing as a box right that said the Corolla's on it that showed up there was no buddy we knew

Corollas on it that showed up. There was no buddy we knew who for Christmas could send a gift over and there was no modality for my mom, my dad, my grandparents, none of which had credit cards or the money or the wherewithal to look something up in a catalog and order the Time Life books, you know, or the best of Smokey Robinson, or you know. There was no. Northwest. As I've said before, a phone book would show up once a year, once every five years. That was a big deal.

That was it. There was nothing on the porch. There was no mail. Our mail was, we didn't really have bills, per se, too much. Electric bill, phone bill, gas bill, that was about it. But you paid that from her government relief. Yeah, uh-huh. And then my stepdad paid it later.

But now I would have many days when I would open the front door and see Starbucks sitting on my porch. Wow. Like a drink and a bagel with a schmear on it. And I'm like, what is this? And it's like magic. What sorcery is going on here? My daughter ordered Starbucks for breakfast on a school day, like on a weekday.

And fast food. Oh my God. Routinely. My dad would have been like, you're just, oh, oh, I'm gonna be killed, I'm gonna kill me. Yeah, I would voice my objection to it, as you know, but what did that mean?

I was paying for everything, but nobody in my home, especially my ex, would not listen to anything I said or do anything I said, and probably do the opposite if I said it, so where are we at then? I didn't want s'mores granola bars either. I didn't want cookie butter, peanut butter on Egos. I didn't want any of it. I paid for all of it, but then I don't get a vote.

Well, no, I did get a vote. I got one vote. And then they got... Just disregarded. No. They got each of the... They each got a vote. Yeah.

The people didn't pay for it and didn't care. So they had character issues, big time, big character issues. And I would explain that to them on occasion, but they didn't want to hear it. It made them angry. People that don't have character get angry at you when you explain them they don't have character. Now, what I would always say is this is reversible. You can get character.

People treat it like you're born with it or you're born without it. And I'm like, you lack character, but you can develop character. Let's talk about it. Because your family situation is a nice sort of case study and all this. We need to figure out a way to motivate people to want to do this so they're because it's not easy like you said it's not what they want to do it's just doing what you don't want to do the lion's share the time that's but we need something more appealing than that no that's not appealing at all I think the one not appealing at all that's how I did it to myself I just said you've

got to behave as though a camera is running at all times so when you review the films you'll feel great about it I had this funny exchange with my girlfriend no ah last night I got in a shower she'd drawn herself a large bath. By the way, I enjoy that. If you like a bath, take a nice bath. I like that people enjoy a bath. I'm not a bath guy, but I'm not not a bath. I understand it's good.

I just for some reason don't deserve one. Yep. As you do. All right. So, but this... I don't deserve a bath this happens all the time and I and I know I sound a Little preachy what Oh little preachy

But I I got into the shower and noted That the shower was cold-ish because the hot water had been basically used up on the bath. To which she said, and which everyone, this is kind of what everyone says to me all the time, well you like a cold shower. I go, I, now here's the part where I'm a little, here's the part where I'm a little douchey. Or not douchey. A little, just a little, here's the part where I'm a little douchey. Or not douchey.

A little, just a little. Half douche. I do not enjoy a cold shower as nobody enjoys a cold shower. And you don't, your dislike of a cold shower is exactly the same as mine. I do it to myself. I subject myself to it.

I subject myself to it because I'm trying to grab a little character in the morning. That's all. You don't want it all the time. I don't, everybody who does this thing is like, you like eating a handful of raisins more than you like eating birthday cakes. Nobody enjoy, can we start here? I would like a donut every single morning. I would like a slice of pie with every single meal.

And I would like a warm shower every time. I would like all of that. I don't enjoy any of it. I don't enjoy, per se, washing my own car. I don't enjoy necessarily chores, moving boxes, sort of organizing stuff. Done, I do a lot of like moving stuff here and go the back and clean up the bench. No enjoyment out of any of it. I feel it's necessary.

Just like we don't enjoy the cold shower, just like we do enjoy the slice of pie. I think when people get dismissive about it, they're doing it to benefit themselves. Oh, of course. Yeah, I don't think it's a mutiny or a coup or anything. I just mean they get real like, yeah, you like it. It makes me feel better.

It makes me feel like not such a douche for giving you the cold shower. It's a deflection. No, no, no, no, no, no, not that. Not that. They say, I like tacos, but you like kale. And it's like, you don't like kale. Oh, I see. And you know I don't like kale.

And nobody likes kale. you're just saying it yeah because you're weak yeah and you're not participating in what you know you should get and making them feel better yeah that's what I want to go back to that virginity thing what do you think it is that is so it talked to me after the break but what do you think it is that's so problematic for a society that it unravels or is that just a symptom of something else? I'll tell you. We'll take a quick break. I'll tell you what's wrong with society right after this. Hey I'm Adam Kroll. That's Brad Williams and Jay Leno. Hey everybody. Over there we're doing our third annual comedy, Fantasy Camp. That's gonna be January 23rd through the 26th,

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It's just like rules. Hard rules. But not complicated rules and not intricate rules. Just like basic stuff. You know what I mean? Look. Golden rule would be one of them. Golden rule is one of them. If you wanted to go, the group that is finishing Around the bottom or at the bottom. I don't know if it's American Indian or black, you know We go in terms of socioeconomic whatever Incarceration well all all the markers you don't want right and they don't want and they don't know nobody wants right Politicians don't want it right? They go. Okay

How do we rectify that well you Nobody wants it. Politicians don't want it, right? You go, okay. How do we rectify that? Well, you finish school, you don't have a kid while you're in school, you don't have a kid until you're married, and you finish school and then you get married. And by the way, marriage was another thing associated with things staying together. And then it corrects it almost immediately,

and then you would go from the bottom to the middle or the top or whatever immediately All right, we know so don't tell me we don't know what to do. This is back to diet and exercise Don't don't tell me there's any American who doesn't understand the difference between kale and cake Seven-year-olds understand that okay Okay, we know what it is. It's a hard, fast rule, but it's hard, but it's real straightforward. You know what it is. But when you don't comply, you can talk about all the community ambassadors and community policing.

Al Sharpton can give 700 million speeches for the rest of eternity. Nothing. Nothing. If you ignore this thing, it's like saying, I'm ignoring diet and exercising, but I go to a seminar every Saturday and someone talks about nutrition

and while I eat tasty cakes like if you ignore that thing yeah no amount of talk no amount of weird conjuring of cops and black and by the target on their back or we got to change the system or we got it's all nothing by the way that's why nothing happens nothing ever comes out there lowering the scores, give these people opportunity zones and stuff. It's all nothing if you ignore this. But life is nature. And nature's relentless and it shows no quarter. It's just, I don't give a fuck who you are,

I will kill you or you will thrive. Here are the rules. You don't wanna go along with them fuck who you are. I will kill you. Yeah, or you will thrive. Yeah, here are the rules You don't want to go along with them. See you now. It's reality, right? Just bow It's denying reality, but but we got to get Rob Henderson there's every interview Rob Henderson these he's the social psychologist from Cambridge who was grew up in a shitty town in California with had a horrible life and found his way into the military and then on the veteran bill went to Yale and then became a... Is he Asian? Yeah. Oh, that helps. Yeah. Well, see, you gotta help me because Henderson is not Asian. You know, I don't think of him as Asian.

I just didn't think of it. I... Yes, I think I've talked about it. I'm probably, by the way, to that point, I'm probably deficient and sort of paying attention to ethnicities. Oh, you're so good. You know what I mean? You're so good. No, I think it becomes a problem, particularly in this world. Yes, it does. Well, when you're trying to describe someone in Henderson, and he's Asian. Anyway, have you interviewed him before?

Yes. Yeah. I don't think we've had him in here though. And we've got to have this conversation about what holds things together and what do we got to do? Well, all the stuff about delayed gratification, character, golden rule, having sex too early, having sex out of wedlock, having children out of wedlock, not finishing education, waiting till you're married before you begin having your family and having children, that's that's diet next, diet next, that's all it is. And nature is

like, I don't care what color you are. I don't care where you hail from. I don't care what your last name is. We will fuck you up if you ignore these rules. Same way as, I don't care what color your skin is. If you're gonna nor diet and exercise, fuck you up. It's not like they go, oh, or take it easy on the Asians and give it hard to the black man.

No, it's all the same gravity, it's all the same rules. So nature, society is basically nature. And it's just going, hear the rules. Now, the problem is, is there's a constituency that does not wanna hear about fucking diet and exercise, so we vote for people who say they can do something for us who have no power to do anything for us and never do do anything for us once in a while they look like us and then they trade on that which is evil basically and then they do nothing for that group but it is interesting to talk about it as nature.

Yes, it's nature. It's all nature. And that feels like something very similar to what we used to talk about on Love Line back in the day. We just could hear the cases, here's what happens. Sorry, it's just how it works. This is how relations are, this is how trauma works, it just is.

And we seem to get through to people with that a bit. I wonder if we need to adopt this more more frequently in terms of I don't know curing our present ills Because it seems sort of more appealing message than a lot of the other things that are out there But if we can change it I It's the delayed gratification nature my It's the delayed gratification thing. My people order shit on Amazon all day, it just shows up the next day. It used to be, allow four to eight weeks for delivery.

COD. Four to eight weeks, is that imagine? Amazing. Four to eight weeks. Certainly four to six would be routine. Like I said, I only knew from watching the commercials because it's not like we ever, ever, or, by the way, I went zero to 50 without ever ordering anything online.

Well first off, I don't know how to do it. I wouldn't know how to do it. I wouldn't know how to do it. I couldn't do it. I can't go down. At some point, I got an assistant and I'd be like, could I get a squeegee with a long handle? I guess to be fair, I was probably 45 or something before I did anything like that.

Yeah, I've never done it. I've also, I don't think, well there's a couple things. I fundamentally disagree with ordering food and having people bring it to my house. I have a fundamental problem with it. I do not have such a fundamental problem with it that I look down upon those who do it or whatever. You're free to do whatever you want.

I do not prefer it, I don't like it, and I certainly didn't want my family doing it, which they did a lot of, but I don't want to do it because I believe it removes you from the process. By the way, things people don't really get is, By the way, things people don't really get is, it, I try to avoid things that open the window for fuck-ups. Be more clear. Meet me, fuck up.

Half the people that order food to their house, they open the thing and they go, I didn't get the sweet potato fry. Oh, god damn it. They're always like, god damn it. The pizza's cold, you know, or the god damn it I ordered mushrooms and I got out what's you're opening a fucking window. Yes, you're talking To semi retarded people on edibles and you're going remember no man. I remember now light mail

No, no, no, no, man on one BLT heavy. Remember now, you are opening yourself up to a world of disappointment. I would argue 40% of shit that gets dropped off at your house when you order food ends up in a, sometimes it's the grocery cart one where it's like, oh we can't eat this avocado for three weeks, it's hard as a rock. I ordered a beefsteak tomato.

This is aroma tomato. Okay, you're opening yourself up to all of that. Now, I know it feels like a convenience, but when you're getting shitty tomatoes and rock hard avocados, maybe it isn't such a convenience. You know what I mean? But also, for me, let's not remove ourselves from the activities of life.

Yeah, and I think that is your thing generally in terms of us going further and further into gravity-free zone. Yes, I don't like... That screws with our thinking. Oh, absolutely screws with our thinking. The more people that do that have difficulty. Well, it disconnects you from reality. There's no immediate, there's no consequence for anything.

Everything's gravity free. Well, why shouldn't it weaken you? You're not getting the reps. Right. You're not moving. Well, this is back to reality, or nature. Nature. Right. Back to nature. Right. Back to nature.

Right, back to nature. So, and then back to, I don't wanna go pick up the food. I want them to bring it here. And I don't wanna go to the supermarket and walk up and down the aisle. I want them to take it to me. And I don't wanna go wash my car, organize my car.

I mean, it started with organizers and dog walkers and fucking weird, first off, I don't really know what an organizer is. I mean, I get it. You make labels, you put stuff on baskets. Who knows better what goes in the basket than the lady whose closet it is, whose stuff it is? You know what I'm saying?

We're gonna have an organizer come, bitch, you don't have a job. How about you just go organize your fucking closet? I'm not gonna do, I need a, it's also weird giving away your, I don't wanna say power, but it's giving you away and deferring to somebody else. So you have a stranger come into your house

and they know better where your shit should go in your closet than you do, owner of the closet, owner of all the material that's in your closet than you do, owner of the closet, owner of all the material that's in the closet, don't you feel like you should have a better understanding, or at least, even if it's idiosyncratic, like where you go, I know most people say put the socks on the bottom drawer,

but I'll go through two or three socks a day because I work out, so I put them on the top drawer, that's you. You'll kind of know what you're grabbing for, right? Why would that have to be a job? Why is that even a job? I mean, I... Listen, I don't know too many of my male friends that...

No, no, no, the people who pay. No, the people that earn do not do the work. Now, I get the show up here in a warehouse and start organizing, what have you. It's the home closet part that's a bigger issue. But, you know, you could kind of argue that about cars, you know? Wash your own car. Well, you listen, I don't know how far we take it back. I mean, grow your own food. By the way, all of that's good. Right. That's the point. We lose something every step we move away from it. And now it's getting exponential. We're moving fast away from everything.

So your own clothes, grow your own food, you know, milk your own cow. I mean, that's all good stuff. Yeah. And we're not going there. No, no, we're, we're going out onward and upward. And that's the problem because what I'm talking about competes with progress. And yet, and yet, you know, I'm don't believe that Elon Musk has any character problem, you know, I mean, he's doing stuff and he's doing it in a zone

that's highly technical and not nature so much. So it can be done, it's just very, there's a liability as you move away from nature and you have to apply nature in other contexts. No, what he is thinking in a mechanical sense, probably all day, every day. And I told you, mechanical thinking keeps you grounded, pun intended.

I mean, it really keeps you, you don't think right mechanically in aerospace programs and people die, you know what I mean? The rocket goes up, turns around, and lands on the mission headquarters. You know, like fire is what happens when that goes south. You know, so that kind of thinking keeps you real keen like all the time.

So we're also want the return of consequences. Yeah. That would also be helpful. Yeah. Oh, oh, there. That might be the whole thing. No, the return of consequences. Yes. That would also be helpful, yeah. Oh, oh, they're. That might be the whole thing. No, we're getting consequences. They don't know it.

They're going nuts. And they don't know that their brain has been sort of captured. No, I mean the consequence, like immediate, like you said, if we were at war, you make a mistake, we all die. There's consequences. All right, Solana Beach, belly up, coming up.

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