The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1971 Beefsteak VS. Cherry Tomatoes
Episode Date: February 6, 2025In this episode, Adam and Dr. Drew dive into the concept of grandiose narcissism and explore how it plays a role in Trump Derangement Syndrome. Adam shares his fiery take on how even the simplest thin...gs—like grape tomatoes—serve as proof of society's gradual decline. Don’t miss this mix of insightful psychology and classic Adam rants!
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Live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction
medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.
You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show.
There we go.
All right.
All right.
What's going on there, Druski?
Don't you have to get it on?
Got to get it on, man.
So Adam and I have been on the road in the great state of Florida where people are happy.
It is interesting, isn't it, how in some states you can...
My stupid habit of listening to French radio every morning,
there was a French businessman that came here to visit and he was very impressed with all
the changes that are going in this country.
And he said, when I get back to France, people are dour and unhappy.
It's like a douche-flod, a cold shower.
And I thought, oh yeah, that's like coming back to California.
Everything's miserable here.
It's where people block the freeways because why?
What are you asking for?
What do you want?
I don't know.
Something.
Everyone, no.
Okay.
Look, it's ruined.
It's fine.
Fine.
It's time to move.
I guess that's just how it works.
It's interesting because I was telling you off the air
that we've always been trying to figure out
what people are thinking, and I tell you,
it's all narcissism.
It's 100% narcissism.
So, I was telling you, I like to listen
to other people's shows, and I was listening to a listen Milana's podcast
as you often do and I I
I don't think people
Attributed to narcissism and oh no, no idea. No, they have no idea
so what people don't really understand about narcissism is people think
Narcissism is about grandiosity
Yeah, and then they think grandiosity is a Disney cartoon version of the King
Yeah, you know the prince with the big muscles standing in front of the mirror all day and flexing his arms
You know, they don't realize that the misery
is a kind of grandiosity and that when celebs,
Selena Gomez most recently, you know,
take to the internet and film themselves weeping openly,
that that's a higher type of grandiosity
than the person that wears his Super Bowl ring out to the Denny's.
You know what I mean?
Now we don't, we think one is grandiosity and the other is misery, but I really, I learned
from my mom that the most miserable is the most grandiose.
Not grandiose. It's the world, the piece of shit around which the whole world revolves.
As you would always say, right. And that's where the narcissism really kicks in. Now,
it's ultimate narcissism because in my mom's case, she needs to take care of herself because she was suffering. And it's no different...
I mean, it's not no different, but if you want to get to what logic would dictate,
then you just go extreme sometimes. Like if you were laying on the floor and you had an open wound
and I said, well, how about you get up and make me an omelet?
You would say, you want an omelet?
I'm tending to, I have an open wound here.
It's a great example of sort of how narcissism works too.
They are in certain kinds of psychic pain all the time and they're very self-focused
because of it.
And you want an omelet.
Right.
And you want an omelet.
You just want to be noticed.
Right. Well, I can't because I'm writhing in pain.
But if you get really specific about it, like a person that just shot a nail gun into their
thigh or something, then of course you would never ask that person to do a load of laundry
or make you an omelet.
Never in a million years would you ask that person.
Because you know they won't respond to you.
The narcissist are very subtle about this.
They feel like they, they may even look like they're responding to you, they're not.
Right.
So I like to watch Alyssa Milano because Alyssa Milano is an insane narcissist who then explains
how she liked to crawl into her young daughter's bed
and weep openly for her future, right?
Which of course, de facto, I don't do that
with my young daughter, so I don't care.
But it's also the opposite of what the child needs.
Oh, of course.
Does he need an out of control, emotional mom
freaking out next to her?
That's gonna help the child?
No, there's nothing worse.
There's nothing worse than that.
That damages the child.
Right. Damages.
Right, so you wanna know,
and you and I always sort of wax out loud,
what are these people thinking?
Like what are they really thinking?
So anyway, it's run on,
but we can just break down the game film.
Byron can start and stop it,
but I was listening to Alyssa's podcast
when I was in Florida.
And these are just,
immigration attorney, her,
and then just a random black guy explaining.
Let me remind people, a C.S. Lewis quote,
who's a great spiritual Christian philosopher,
his quote was, for those who have love for everyone, actually love no one.
No one in particular.
Love for everyone applies love for no one in particular.
Michael Jackson loved all the children of the world, and then some a little more specifically in Encino.
You know what I mean? But he had great love. And everyone needs a seat at the table and
no one's illegal and you know, health, everyone deserves world-class health care and every
child should never go to bed hungry and according to me, insane grandiosity, you know, and one person dies of COVID, well then that's too many.
Oh, for you.
For you.
But I'm all right with millions.
I was gonna say, but also it's a denigration of who you are.
Because you're not me.
I care.
You don't care.
Well, that's where, that's at the end of the day.
That's where we're here.
Yeah.
All right.
So we'll play the clip.
You have fun. On election night on PBS after it became clear that Donald Trump was on his
way to the presidency. That I said that I was concerned on multiple levels. And the
first level I said was I was concerned as an African American. All right. And I was
concerned as an African American. There's a lot of as a journalist, as a gay journalist, as an African American, as a woman
of color.
Okay, that's first tip off to narcissists.
Yeah.
Right?
As an African, okay.
All right.
So what we'll keep, now he's concerned as a black man because why?
Well we're going to find out.
Level I said was I was concerned as an African American.
And I was concerned as an African American because of the rhetoric used by Donald Trump on the campaign trail.
Saying that he wanted to
let police have a, you know, a day, some sort of day of rage where they can get the crime situation
under control in various cities well the
The dog whistle there is that he's gonna go after after black people
First off you you really notice like
There is no more
farcical comedic
there is no more farcical, comedic approach you could take to what these insane narcissists think and how they think, you know what I mean? And it's sort of... My whole life, I've said to people,
this person came up, started screaming at me for no reason, you know, and I was going,
okay, well, what was their reason? Because they're bad. You know, and I go, okay,
if I talk to them, what would they say? Would don't because they're bad. You know, and I go, okay, well, if I talk to them,
what would they say?
Would they say I came up and started screaming
this person for no reason
or would they tell you why they did it?
And again, think of the age of your daughter
when she decided that she was cut from the volleyball team
because her coach didn't like her.
Yes.
At 14?
Could have been younger.
Okay, so early adolescence, but normal thinking for early adolescence. Yes. 14? Could have been younger.
Okay, so early adolescence, but normal thinking for early adolescence.
But no, but even...
Not normal for adults.
No, but even her, I said, so cut from the volleyball team because coach doesn't like
you.
Yeah.
And then she said, yeah.
And then I said, you know, how many people tried out,
you know? And she said, probably 20, you know? And I said, well, how many did they keep?
And she said, 10. And I said, well, then where would you have ranked in that 10? And she
was like, she said like nine or something. And I said, okay, so but if I was just up
in the stands watching all 20 of
you work out, would I thought you were so much better? And she's like, no. And at the end of the
conversation, she kind of got that she was too close to the cutoff. And when you get close,
by the way, when you get close to the cutoff, they can pick number 11 over number 10 and number 12 over number 9 when you're close.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you're leaving it open to interpretation.
Now we're just talking about tenths.
All right, sorry, go, we'll continue.
Whistle there is that he's going to go after black people.
How are you handling that?
I guess how are your clients handling it?
How are you dealing with this knowledge now that people chose Trump?
And this is for you too, because I don't know how the hell to manage this right now.
I'm just angry all the time.
So like hate was the thing that they chose and they chose it knowingly.
Like that was the attraction for them.
This has been a hard thing for me to wrap my head around as well.
It's not like the first time around we had an idea that he wasn't gonna be a good
president. I don't think any of us could have predicted that there'd be a
pandemic and all the things. And he was just horrible. He was just horrible
person, mean not only policy-wise but just in his leadership qualities. He was just that asshole guy.
And we knew it this time.
Not only did we know it this time,
but we had the option to vote for the first black woman
who was qualified, a leader through service, brilliant.
She was gonna protect human rights, all of the things.
And yet, people voted for the asshole.
All right. Remember I was telling you on the ride over, they think in terms of cartoons?
Oh, 100%.
First off, has anyone ever thought that Kamala Harris was a brilliant person?
Is there anything she said that would lead you
to hang that label of brilliant on her?
Also this like community service,
fucking the mayor of Oakland or San Francisco,
whatever, waking your way up, never really lying
about all the people you've prosecuted
or cases you've had or whatever,
whatever is lying about working at McDonald's
Lying about where you grew up and stuff. Is there any
She's put in charge of the border that that had that work out
I mean what would lead you to believe that she was and by the way, she liked humans
She was human rights, you know what I mean? Yeah
But here's the part I like.
So she's this virtuous, great person, and we just voted for an asshole.
Right.
Now, what's that make us?
That makes us cartoon characters.
Right.
First of all, you can read our minds.
Mind reading, number one, which is grandiose, right?
And then number two is, right, you're a hateful, bad person. You're a cartoon
character. You're Dr. Evil. But what I like best is when you really listen to her talk,
the seething rage with which she speaks.
Oh yeah, they're always angry.
They're angry. Seething, angry all the time. And that's always there right under the surface.
It's crazy.
You would be angry as well, though, Hope you thought more than half the country was just hate mongers. I
Well, you know, it's always they were in charge for four years. The same hates was coming through their teeth
All right. We'll keep going because there's some more there's some more good here, but
People voted for the asshole
knowingly the guy that organized an insurrection it's
mind-boggling it is mind-boggling but I have heard things in immigrant in my own
Muslim community that have left me scratching my head as well that they
take one issue one thing that he said and completely whitewash everything and I spoke up in a lot of
our groups and chats and meetings. I am not about to whitewash what happened between 2017 and 2020.
I am not about to let that happen. I remember what it was like. I remember what we had to go through.
I remember the pain and angst that I had to go up. And I am not about to whitewash that and say,
oh, it's not going to be that bad again.
As I have heard.
Pause.
He said, I am not I about four times in about 15 seconds.
I remember.
I'm not going through it.
I'm not going to do this again.
No, he's going to stand up.
He's not whitewashing it.
You are.
But he, he remembers the pain.
It's superhero stuff. I'd like to see a montage of this guy's life during the
first Trump administration of him at movie theaters, him drinking IPAs at a
sports bar, him beating off, staring at his phone, him at Knott's Berry bar, you
know, but he remembers the pain and the anguish, remember?
All right, sorry, keep it going, Byron, it's good.
Not about to whitewash that and say, oh, it's not going to be that bad again, as I have
heard from people in this iteration around. And it boggles my mind.
Oh, so do you really think that people thought it wouldn't be as bad? See, because that would make me feel a little bit better about it, actually, because
that to me is a better human reaction than to be like, I'm voting for fear and hate and
discrimination and all the things that he represents.
That's judicious of you, Alyssa, but I am not willing to give,
I'm not willing to give people
cut of any slack on this.
This is about willful blindness.
This is about thinking about one issue
to the exclusion of others.
And perhaps it's because of my position
as an immigration attorney
and seeing the effects on so many different communities.
I've represented people from 117 countries
around the world over the 21 years I've practiced.
And this flavor of hate that comes,
it impacts people in different ways,
but nobody can turn a blind eye to it.
You're either willfully blind or not intelligent enough
to recognize it when you see it.
And I think that it's important to walk
into this administration eyes wide open.
I'm looking at her education.
Before the pandemic in January.
Sort of one of those like studio schools.
Yeah.
No education.
Well, I don't have any education either.
So I don't know.
Yeah, but you make fun of yourself though for some of that.
You just you even you would even say that I have no education and I can see this.
Byron, I don't education, and I can see this.
Byron, I don't know how to do this, but at some point you can also scrub through
that same episode probably mid,
probably somewhere around the middle,
but there's a teacher talking about taking a stand
I always like to talk to you about.
I've heard a lot of teachers go on camera, film themselves explaining that you
may take them, but you're not going to get to their students. There's tons of videos,
middle-aged fat chicks going, you've got to go through me. Which I don't know what that
means. Like a Ruby Ridge type shoot out with the feds or,
hey fat chick, are they just gonna walk in,
they're gonna walk in your classroom
till your fat ass to move aside
and round up whoever the fuck they want.
But just like they would if one of your students
stabbed someone in the neck out on the way to school.
They would just walk in and go walk into your classroom
to tell your fat ass to move over and then they would go take that person and walk them out of your
classroom. What is it you're going to do? And there's also a little bit of a trump card
here when it comes to the pain and anguish of 2017, 2020. The reality is we remember
the pain and anguish of lockdowns and mandates that you fuckers brought. Yes. That is on everybody's mind now.
We saw what you're capable of.
I don't know that this gentleman that was speaking here
was required to stay home or not work,
or his movements were restricted in any way.
Right.
Yet it was horrible for him.
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Yeah, the cartoon aspect of this is just beyond. Well, it's why human nature is denied by them.
They don't know human nature. No, it's a cartoon. But there is also no avenue for correction
in the sense that I've told you a million times,
Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles blames the homeless situation
on income inequality.
So Elon Musk has too much money,
and that's why people are sleeping on the sidewalk.
And shooting drugs.
Okay, and shooting drugs. Okay, that's what she blames it on.
Gavin Newsom, the mayor of California, has explained to me what the true face of homelessness
looks like, which is the mother of two with a full-time child who's divorced.
I'm looking at the face of homelessness.
Me.
Yeah.
Right. So how would one solve a problem if one was that far off
in terms of identifying the problem?
Yes.
And if you want to know why people voted for Trump
versus your brilliant person who fights for human rights,
then perhaps you should find out the real reason they voted
for Trump and not the cartoon reason they voted for Trump because
Okay, they voted for Trump because they love fear and hate
Except where nobody voted for Trump because they love fear and hate they they had things that had to do with the economy
Had to do with border had to do with energy
So perhaps you could address that stuff and then win the next
election. We should list the things that people were concerned about corruption. Even if they
were sort of vaguely concerned about it, they would hear things and go, hey, you told us Biden was
peak performance. That's corruption right so corruption border prices I will
I will let you look into that as as Byron scrubs through that the scrubbing
through was I don't know why I'm particularly outraged but entertained by
grandiosity you know what I'm talking about?
I just love it when people go me.
And also, I also am super attracted to non-plans,
which is to say the teacher who's not gonna let
any ICE representatives take their children because they're gonna stand for them.
And the ICE people are gonna have to take them first.
Which, first off, you're gonna have to take me first,
just means, all right, I'll take you
and then I'll take the kids.
Why is that stopping anything?
It's not stopping anything.
Also, ICE officials aren't interested
in taking blowhards from Indiana who were born here.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, it's convenient to say
they're gonna have to take you first,
but they're not taking you anywhere
because you were born here and so were your parents
and you didn't come here from a different country.
So there's that, right?
Mm-hmm.
I'm still listing all the things that caused people to vote for Trump.
All right.
Well, let me, I can complain about a new scourge, Drew.
Oh.
Yes.
What's that? that. There's a new scourge and there are things in our society that I'm very interested in.
And I'm interested in things that are bad that sort of catch on that don't,
that are clearly not good, but they catch on. Okay. Like music thing, music. There's music
that is bad that catches on. There was, as I've complained,
and by the way, I've complained a lot,
and it kind of swung back a little.
Passion fruit iced tea.
I would say I want iced tea.
We have passion fruit iced tea.
Oh, I want regular iced tea.
We don't do that anymore.
Like I don't want iced tea that tastes like a sock with potpourri in it was dipped into it. I
just want ice tea." And then they go, well, we just do passion fruit. And I go, I don't
think anyone asks for this. I don't think anyone who enjoys ice tea, you've also ruined
the Arnold Palmer. You can't do the Arnold Palmer anymore because
you have passion fruit iced tea. But I didn't ask for this. I don't want it. And I don't think anyone
who asked for iced tea wants scented candle flavored iced tea, right? But yet there it is.
And it kept going and it just became ubiquitous. And here we go Now, the latest, and I took pictures,
but I don't have them.
I didn't forward them to the guys.
But look, the latest are these little grape tomatoes.
Saw you tweeting about that.
These little fucking, the skin is tough,
the flavor is a little sour, and they're kind of chewy.
So you don't mean the cherry tomatoes?
Cherry tomatoes are bad.
Cherry tomatoes have always been bad.
You mean the pear-shaped ones?
Yeah, but they're miniature.
Cherry tomatoes have been around since my childhood.
And basically what they do is they look kind of cool on the salad and people just kick
them off because cherry tomatoes are a tough skin and then just sort of pus with seeds in a tough
skin. The pus is flavorless, the seed. Okay, nobody likes cherry tomatoes. Now over a beefsteak tomato or aroma tomato,
fucking forget it, nobody wants it, okay?
If they ever try to make salsa out of these kinds
of tomatoes, people throw it in your fucking face.
Okay, they're no good.
But evidently they last longer, they're cheaper,
they look better, it's an aesthetic.
It's an aesthetic, passion fruit, oh passion fruit they look better. That's it's an aesthetic. It's an instant passion fruit
Oh passion for they love saying it. It's an aesthetic. Okay
Here's the deal. I think our Byron I think we're back signs are screwed up
But I never know why we don't we it happens frequently, but we can't figure out why it happens
But the idea is there's a timer on it. We don't do the math on the timer part.
Of course. Yeah. Why wouldn't we? Okay. So here's the thing. These tomatoes suck. But,
so I go out, I'm in Florida, go out to some breakfast place, I get avocado toast. And on
the avocado toast comes a bunch of these little fucking tomatoes sitting on top of the avocado toast, which
of course just roll off. It cannot be incorporated. Like I love avocado toast with a big slab of beef
steak tomato and some cheese or whatever, some ham or something, but that, no, these just roll
off to the side, right? Can't be enjoyed. You have to put them in your mouth and bite them. They're...
In Spain, they have something called tomato bread.
They would never use this.
They're sour and they're what have you.
Okay.
Then, I'm at the hotel, right?
And the next day I'm at the hotel
and I go check out the breakfast buffet.
They have bagels and they have lox and they have cream cheese and they have onion
and then they have a jar of these cut up little things which you can't put on top of your
fucking bagel. You need a wheel on top so you bite so you get a little bit of the onion
and you get a little bit of lox and you get a little bit of locks and you get the bagel
These are just things you're supposed to sprinkle on top. They'll just fall off
Nobody fucking wants these things. Nobody wants them and they're goddamn ubiquitous now
They're everywhere when you order a salad and so now I have to get weird like when I'm ordering
Salad or anything that says tomato comes with tomato, I'm like, what are we talking
about here?
Now, it's a chick thing, it's an aesthetic thing.
They also give them names, like these are jewel tomatoes or something, and people go,
eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh.
All right, so after being terrorized...
By the way, imagine making a Greek salad
out of those tomatoes.
Impossible.
It's all bad.
They're not good.
First off, you're doing a bagel in locked
with the little pieces of grape size,
sour, fucking chewable.
Fuck that.
After being traumatized on the road by these tomatoes,
I arrive at your home last night, traumatized on the road by these tomatoes.
I arrived at your home last night, I opened the fridge and I see a big clear container,
the little mini.
Of cherry tomatoes.
No, no, no, they're not, they're not.
Really?
There is no, true.
Do not bring up cherry tomatoes like a viable excuse.
Cherry tomatoes fucking suck.
No, they do suck, but she usually buys a thing of cherry tomatoes because there's one purple there whatever
No, it's an it's an aesthetic. It's completely
Aesthetic. Yeah, it's a static. Yep
Okay, but here's the whole thing I don't know how to treat house guests
You knew what I went through on that road
with those goddamn tomatoes.
Okay, here's the thing.
I think Susan set you up for this.
Here's the thing.
She put them up front.
They don't, right up front, eye level.
It's like she measured how high my eyes were off the ground
and put them right on that.
Then we're not tucked away.
She unloaded everything.
I didn't even get into the-
Not in the crisper.
Not in the crisper. No. crisper. Not in the crisper.
No.
Safely hidden away in the crisper.
Nope, boom, right there, tall.
Round side of it, yep.
Okay.
It is, I am guessing, first off,
I don't think these fucking tomatoes ever go bad.
I think you can leave them in the fridge
for like nine weeks.
That's why she buys these.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because a regular tomato's gone in a week.
Right, right.
So the buffet person doesn't wanna take beefsteak tomatoes,
keep them, chop up the fucking wheels.
It is bagels and lox.
Nobody wants your gritty little sour fucking burnt offerings.
To what, drizzle?
Like put miniature tomatoes planted all around it.
No, but it is cheaper, it lasts longer, they go for it and just like,
just the same as they do with passion fruit because people need to start complaining.
Yeah, they sell it.
And I sent, I was, I got the avocado toast
and I was like, could you go back
and get me regular tomato sliced up?
Not this shit.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And I do think their primary motivation is cost
and duration of being able to use these products.
No. And then they sell it to you
as something special.
Right, and it's an aesthetic thing
that I think women respond to,
because they go, oh, these are jeweled tomatoes
and they look cool.
The tomatoes that your wife brought,
they're like purple ones at the top
and then yellow ones at the bottom.
And when you look at it, you go, oh,
it looks so pretty.
But it's shit.
You know what?
She's never bought those before.
Don't give me that shit.
No, she buys chargers,
but I've never seen the color.
So just for you is what I'm saying.
Wait till you get home.
It's for you.
That's what I'm saying, she planned this.
This was an assault.
This is an attack.
Well, obviously-
It's been your mind obviously she's voting for hate
You said she's never bought them before which is not helping your case true. She said job. That's what I'm saying
So it's all we have a mash shows with my boot when I get back to your place
Anyway
Torrance at the end. Oh I'm doing standup there,
February 15th, six and eight o'clock.
That's a fun place, man.
That is like a rowdy rock and roll bar.
I loved it there.
I'm gonna be at the Paramount Theater in Austin with-
That's a big theater.
Barry Weiss, who Mike August calls Barry Weiss,
because he just mispronounces everyone's name,
which he, and he doesn't stop, and it's weird, right?
Yes.
But you can set your clock on it,
he just says everyone's name wrong.
But it's a weird thing, right?
It sounds like him.
Oh, it's definitely him.
No, the thing about Mike is, you'll go I think she goes by Barry
I know it's spelled a little differently, but I think she goes by Barry and then
Ten minutes later. He'll go. So barry wants you to do an online whatever and you go. Okay
Well, I guess we're not gonna I got as those be bar
Bar I read that she spells it or be yeah. Yeah, but at some point you'll meet her and then it'll be weird or something
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