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Episode Date: February 12, 2025Adam and Dr. Drew open up the week by musing over how the people overly worried about Safety aren’t piping up when it comes to safety and Gaza, Lily Collins, star of Emily In Paris, getting a surrog...ate for her baby when it was not medically necessary, and we revisit one of Joe Biden’s greatest hits, Joe Biden talking about Airline Fees affecting the poor, and people of color.
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Yeah, we even, yeah you got kids, good, yeah the face of homelessness, perfect. Yeah, well you're in trouble. Because? Because I learned how to operate your TV set.
I've noticed, that's good. So I was on a timer a Short timer with you because I couldn't operate your TV set. I couldn't control your TV set
Therefore you would not be able to survive in my environment and I would have to flee. Yeah, it wouldn't be hospitable
Right for me now. I've not only learned how to
Find stations, but I've also discovered recently I can pause and rewind.
Wow.
So now get ready for a long time residency because that's all I needed was control of
the TV set.
Got the cold plunge, we got everything for you.
I mean, what more?
Well, your shower in the foothills. It's funny, you know, the metaphor for being displaced,
it's like I haven't taken a hot shower in a month.
I haven't taken a hot shower in a month either.
What comes out of the shower head
when you just go cold turn,
and your place at this time of year is cold.
It takes your breath away.
Yeah, and I just leave it on that, I never get it to hot. Impressed. And your place at this time of year is cold. It takes your breath away. Yeah.
And I just leave it on that.
I never get it to hot.
Impressed.
So that's it.
Impressive.
It's a rinse.
Cold rinse.
I though...
Oh, well, it's neither of the two there, but I have to heat back up afterwards.
I have to or I'm done.
I'm really screwed up.
It's an old age thing.
I swear to God.
Yeah, they say you're supposed to do the hot and the cold.
Yeah, I had that at the health club. I was talking about.
The fire?
Before the fire, I don't know.
The health club that burned down, okay.
I, you know, some, I,
the thing about
Returning to my condominium is and the thing that's kind of weird with the city although weird not
unexpectedly weird is
I Have there's no answers on any kind of timeline. They don't they don't say
People go. Can you go back? I go, I don't think so.
I don't know. There's no power. I don't think there's power. When's the power going to come
back? I don't know. What about the water? What's up with the cleanup? Then you talk
to someone and they go, a couple weeks probably. And then you talk to someone else and go,
it's going to be a year. It's going gonna be a year. It's gonna be a year
Shouldn't there be some official something out of somebody? Yeah, I honestly don't know I don't know
If there is power is it on is there water is you had to think about this way? I've had a thousand discussions on can I just drive to my condo? No, you cannot just drive to
your condo. Well, how do I? Well, you have to get an escort or you have to know
somebody or get something. I know someone at the fire department. And it's
like, but so I couldn't just go from, you know, your place.
Safety. It's not safe. It's not safe.
So it's a bizarre vacuum of information and nobody has a
timeline and nobody has any thoughts about anything and and evidently
there's no official website or anything that says we can punch your address in
or do anything. I just thought of something interesting. Trump has zeroed
in on safety as a reason to step in in Gaza. Yet you never hear
the safety people talking about the safety of the people around all that crumbling concrete.
They don't seem concerned about it in Gaza. They're concerned about the Pacific Palisades.
It's literally like living under a freeway overpass that had been bombed and there's pieces of, you know, rebar sort of acts like string. Like if you took matzah,
hold on.
Here we are.
If you took matzah and you embedded dental floss into it, then it would snap easily,
but it would then dangle.
Right.
You know what I mean? You'd have to work at it to get it to fall.
So rebar does that with concrete.
Concrete is brittle and it snaps and then stuff just kind of dangles.
That's why you see stuff sort of up in the air and kind of dangling because it has rebar,
which is very flexible, embedded in it.
So the bomb hits it, it doesn't totally come down,
it sort of partially comes down and then dangles.
And so now you have a bunch of heavy chunks of concrete
over your head.
Kind of dangling above.
Yeah.
Right.
They're not worried about that.
They're worried about plastic melting
or something in your neighborhood.
I don't know what they're nervous about.
Exactly what they're
worried about.
They have a bizarre relationship with everything that they care about, like women's rights.
You know what I mean?
Like we watch commercials.
Gay rights too within.
Yeah, gay rights.
All right.
So we watch commercials, you know, during the Super Bowl about women getting a chance to
play sports or whatever
is going on that's not going on.
As far as I can tell, women are playing sports or not playing sports.
This weird kind of relationship we have with, well, women should be allowed to stand up.
Yeah, my daughter played volleyball until she was tired of playing volleyball.
Now, she didn't play volleyball anymore, but there was nothing, nothing impeded her from
playing volleyball.
There was tons of girls playing volleyball on any given Saturday in Orange County.
So that they make up these sort of bizarre strawman thing about women having the right
to do this or certain races or certain races, or the gay community.
And then there's regions of the world
where they're tortured and thrown off a roof for being gay
and women are subjugated and have to wear sacks
on their head and stuff like that.
And they have zero thoughts.
It's basically the NBA and China.
They have tons of thoughts about Black Lives Matter
and things and rights and stuff here,
and we're going to move
the All-Star Game from here to there because of something, but they don't really know Chinese
thoughts, no Middle Eastern thoughts. So it's an inconsistent thought about people and danger
and whatever this thing is. So yes, Malibu Is the sort of same with gay rights and women's rights or whatever as it is with middle east and gaza and you know
In human rights and in gay rights and rubble. Yes, it's it's as consistent exactly, which is to say it's totally inconsistent
and
I have no
Idea if they care about things or not
That that's kind of where i'm at with stuff like is this something you? I have no idea if they care about things or not.
That's kind of where I'm at with stuff. Like is this something you truly care about
or are we just talking about this?
There's been a topic in the news
with a lot of inconsistency around it,
which is surrogacy.
Apparently it's on the rise globally,
but as you say, some countries are sort of weirdly condemning it and there's all kinds of it
This is just mom, you know somebody carrying your child. Is that what that is? Is that what we're talking about?
Well, if you say surrogacy, I'm assuming I believe that's what we're talking about
Yes, we're talking about and this can go a lot of different ways
There's a lot of different ways in which people will use surrogacy
And by the way, that was an attack on transgender Adam
because a man can carry a baby, how dare you.
Oh yeah, right, sorry.
Yes, so like right now, for example,
a trending story is Lily Collins, the actress.
A lot of women, specifically millennial women,
are pretty angry with her.
She's Emily in Paris?
That's Emily in Paris, yeah.
She had a baby through surrogacy. You know Emily in Paris? You watching that? No, yeah. Okay. She had a baby through surrogacy.
You know Emily in Paris?
You watching that?
No, but I know.
You're not gay enough.
You like Paris, yes.
I am.
Yes, I am.
Yes, I do.
So yeah, it doesn't seem that there was any medical reason why she needed to do this.
She had a baby through a surrogate and took a photo of herself lying in the hospital
bed with the baby on her chest. And a lot of women were mad because it was giving the
impression that she gave birth to the baby herself, which obviously she did not.
Was she in a hospital bed?
I think so.
Was she in a hospital gown? Like did she look like a patient?
No, she said she was in a hospital bed. Right. But we don't know if she was in a gown.
Okay. Because it's... Oh, I don't know. I guess we could produce the picture
We don't have our monitor on in here so
Interesting. So why does anybody give a shit except unless they're jealous or something? Nobody cares. Nobody cares
No, nobody cares about any of this stuff. Okay, that's the new the new world order is nobody nobody
And yet they spill out of ink about it. I
I've been
Essentially nursing this notion for a very long time, which is nobody really cares about most of stuff. They're talking about
Keep going
Well, I certainly seen they love to be a victim. They would I've been thinking lately about no, no
I know that that they look
remember
ten minutes ago when
Georgia made a bunch of voting rules and everyone was sort of apoplectic about it
Yeah, move the all-star game and they made speeches and they did everything. And then at some point it just goes away and whatever happens...
I mean, whatever happens is nothing happens, you know what I mean?
And then they just move on.
So this is just another one of the many just move on situations.
It's mostly this.
They're trying to move on from lockdowns even. They become apoplectic about all kinds of things,
and then they just move on.
Yeah.
That's the world order.
Yeah, yeah.
Everything is super important, and then it's not,
and then they don't care, and this is really unimportant.
And that's how it works.
So nobody cares.
It's my new thing. That's my new thing.
We get into some sort of fever about something, which is mainly women getting sort of agitated
about stuff and angry at people and stuff like that. But then 10 minutes goes by and
they just move right on to the next thing, which I talk
about all the time, which is to say, if you said to me, what do I care about, you would
hear the same things over and over and over again that dated back 30 years.
You would never see me going nuts about something and then, eh, it doesn't care anymore.
Right, right.
Which means they don't care. That's what I'm saying. Now, maybe they don't know they don't care.
Well, and also there's no, there's never any, you know, I've said all the time, like, I care
about cars. I like cars. And then there's a big long history of me doing stuff that involves that.
Hart Lake, Wisconsin just asked me if I wanted to be the grand marshal of their vintage race.
And I said, yeah, can I bring one of my cars to race? That's the history of me doing stuff.
Well, but doing is not what people that like process like.
Yes.
They don't like doing.
I know.
Drew and I were talking about process in his living room
this morning.
And I told him, I said, that's the right word,
because we call it process addiction, when people just
like doom scrolling and interacting
through social media.
And in a sense, porn addiction is a process addiction.
It's just all this sort of not doing anything.
It's all just talking or developing outrage.
And it's an interactive phenomenon where nothing happens.
Right, and so there's process people.
I've talked about it a few times,
and I used to talk about it with Mike August.
There's process people people and then there is
sort of action people.
And I have been guilty of being an action,
I'm so action-y oriented that sometimes
I do things that don't benefit me.
Then I remember as a kid being that way. I
wanted like results, you know what I mean? And I couldn't really build a model correctly
when I was a kid because the model instructions would be like, take everything apart and then paint everything
and then wait a few hours for it to dry
and then assemble this and assemble that.
And I'm like, I wanna take the missile
and put it on the wing now,
and then I'll paint it later.
You know what I mean?
And then they'd be like, no, no, do it in this order.
But the order was
boring. And I wanted to see something now. And the end product was suffered because of the sort of,
let's do it. And I've had that with building and a few things, like a few times, like I'm like,
just get it, let's throw it up there. I want to see what it looks like. I want to see it. And they go, well, slow down.
Don't do it until after everything's dry and then you can...
I was a model car guy too.
And that paint before you assemble thing, the glue would make the paint run.
And so it was like the worst advice ever that parts were these tiny little like often dashboard
elements or steering, you know, turn signal.
And it's like, no, I'm painting it afterwards.
And then it was hard, but I would do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I am in too big a hurry.
Yeah, I'm with you.
And then there's the process.
And why is that a young male thing? It does not exist in my brain now,
but it definitely was a thing when I was nine, 10.
Like really, like, huh, build it.
It's a,
it's a building thing normally.
I mean, if you said to me.
It was the greatest,
it was like the highlight of that two years
I would say nine and ten was building little model cars
If you said to me or if I if I had some notion pop into my head, yeah, where someone went
Hey, you know, I think there's room in the back of the warehouse. You put a couple of edit bays back there or something and we were out
You know on the road on vacation or something, and I'd go, yeah, I think there's enough room back there to get a – I would literally want to cut the vacation a day short so I
could get back here and measure the thing to see. I would sit down and I would start drawing stuff out,
and I would sort of picture in my head,
let's see, a piece of plywood's eight feet long,
there's two of them up on the storage,
so that's 16 feet, so we know it's 16 feet,
at least 16 feet.
And I would start getting into it.
Now, the process people,
the people that don't like process
really don't like it and I think it's a shaming thing.
People that.
The sedentary, I think.
Maybe, there's certainly shame in it.
Well, so let's talk about the process thing.
So this is gonna be a new theme for me going forward.
All right, wait, hold on real quick.
All right.
Do we have the picture?
Now we're thinking that might have been from a different story, the picture of a woman
in a bed.
Oh, it's not the same.
Pictures of the baby.
Oh, it's not the same.
So we don't have that picture.
No.
Yes, nobody cares.
By the way, what the fuck's up with Emily in Paris?
She lives in Paris for three years and doesn't learn a fucking word of French.
Or barely a word.
Oh, look out Drew.
Yeah, but that's why she was so good at her job.
She didn't need to learn French to get it done.
You know, she was a marketing person.
I didn't know that you were gay.
I did not know.
I'm half gay, but I blame my girlfriend.
And FYI, if we're looking for something and we don't have it, just put it on the screen.
So I will not have to go back and ask that every time or make a note or something half mo
I did not know
Mmm. Yeah, he likes that show. Yeah, I'm the gayest straight man in America drew is yeah drew doesn't know anything. Yeah
well
No, I mean I like listen I like sex in the city. Oh watch that what's wrong with you?
I don't know, I liked it.
I would watch it.
All right, take a quick break.
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You mentioned the process people, right?
And you and I talked this morning.
What I'm saying is it shames,
the non-processed people are sort of sedentary.
I get it, I got it basically from my family
who was, they were process people,
and I was unprocessed person and they didn't like it
when you showed up because it was essentially agitating to them and it was like an old dog
and then a new puppy comes in the house and the puppy's running around and wanting to play and
get into stuff and the old dog just wants to kind of spread out and chillax,
and there's little things like running around, like yapping all the time.
There's that, but I'm gonna say that so many people in this country right now are caught in what's called the Cartman Triangle,
which is this relationship of victim, victimizer, rescuer.
And when people assume the role of victim,
they cast everybody else in either rescue or a victimizer.
And if you're in the, being cast in the victimizer role
and you're not a victimizer, you're like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no, yeah, no, no,
I'm not racist, I'm not whatever.
And, you know, and that is a disgusting
and pathological frame for people to be in, because they've always
like your mom, always goes back to victim and victim and woe is me and oh I do everything
oh and nobody helps me and victim.
But what I was going to say is the interesting thing about the Cartman Triangle and the process
people which is of course people in victim, they don't want to move from victim and doing things moves them from victim. Yes. But the other name
for the Cartman Triangle is the Drama Triangle, which is kind of interesting
because your mom sort of freaked out. I'm in the Drama Triangle. Well, so
here's the part that's insidious. The part of this stuff that's insidious is when politicians
and corporations realize now there's hay to be made while the sun is shining, right?
Follow the money.
So...
Follow the money. That's it.
Or the power.
But yeah. Well, but the victim,
but staying victim keep,
it's unmet psychological needs
that are a way of empowering yourself pathologically.
Yeah, but what I'm, what, yes.
So what I'm saying is, is,
Joe Biden realized that there's a bunch of victims out here,
mainly the black community, because we told them so,
and some women are lesbian or whatever, trans, whatever.
So then he went out and agitated them to get votes,
because the deal is we're living in a systemically racist,
whatever culture and people scared of people
that look different, and if you're part of the LGBT,
you know, hey, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black, right? Okay, so let's
just agitate them and then victimize them and then promise to do things for
them that are unachievable because the system isn't broken in the first place.
So you go...
And even if you do rescue them, you leave them forever in need of rescue.
You can't rescue them.
Well, they need rescue then forever.
Well, yeah. So what you do, it's sort of a grift.
Sort of.
Well, it's a grift.
Now it's explicit.
It's an explicit grift.
We have the bills.
You go in there and you say, we have a systemic racist problem
in this society.
And then the victims go, yeah, good,
because that's what we want to hear.
And then you go, you have to vote for me
so that I can fix this problem.
And then they go, okay.
So then they vote for them.
But we don't have a systemically racist system.
So thus, there's nothing these people can do to fix it.
Right?
What process?
Well, they can talk about how it disproportionately,
so what's, I mean, if you go back to Biden talking
about junk fees for airlines. It's not really
What were?
productive
Did he help anybody in that community talking about junk fees for airlines?
Luggage fees what what part of first up being too heavy
When you're disenfranchised, you don't travel a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
I would think not.
Or at all.
Remember, these people don't have access to IDs.
Right.
So how would they get through an airport?
Or banks.
How would they get through an airport?
Right.
They don't travel.
They can't travel.
They don't have an ID.
Right.
But he's going to get the junk fees,
taking care for them.
Except for, it either gets solved or it doesn't,
either way it doesn't affect anybody.
And that's all part of the grift.
I'll play the clip just cause it is,
you know, you people, you guys,
you think about the big clips, I always think about the small stuff.
The great, the reason I keep playing this one is because if somebody says,
show me who Joe Biden is in 19 seconds, I'll go, here he is. He is A, saying something that's completely nonsensical you you you pay for these fees, but you don't know it
Till after you get the ticket
You don't know it you just paid it. I just paid it. I go through this process every week
Every other week I travel that's like you want to go first class that bit that mint the business plus
You have coach plus, premium plus for
$59, you get one, you know, entree, one box of hummus and one, you know, one well drink
and four inches of knee room. It's all laid out. It's literally there, I get circumstances
where you go in for a meal at a resort
and they tack 20% of a resort fee onto the check
or something, okay, that is something I wasn't aware of.
Airlines, 100% aware, because you booked the ticket.
Also, how does airline know what color you are when you're booking the ticket,
you know? And what if you're a super cunning black man and you have a white guy book your
ticket for you so you don't get the junk fees? Right, you wouldn't because you're white.
That's what I'm saying.
All right, we'll play the clip, because it's great.
It's nonsensical.
And of course, the part where he says
it affects the poor people and then
the black and the brown people.
I guess, I don't know if we can play it or not,
but we can, okay.
We have no screens in here.
We don't have a monitor.
Yeah, I just have one on my screen.
Some airlines, if you want six more inches
between you and the seat in front, you pay more money.
But you don't know it until you purchase your ticket.
Look folks, these are junk fees, they're unfair,
and they hit marginalized Americans the hardest, low-income folks and people of color
Oh, yeah, throw that in. Okay, so
Poor people and then people of color. So it's a different category because it's just racist and then also
Do you need the six inches of knee room? You don't have to purchase it. No.
So why do they hit, you know, it's like saying-
Why is that a junk fee?
Shrimp cocktail hits the marginalized.
Well, you don't have to order shrimp cocktail.
And no, it is not a junk fee, you're getting something.
Yeah, is it a junk fee when you move up to first?
That's also just another added fee.
How about when you see a concert
and you wanna sit closer to the stage? Junk fees. It's a another added fee. How about when you see a concert and you want to sit closer to the stage?
Junk fees.
It's a weird conceit.
It's a totally nonsensical...
He's having a presser for this.
Meanwhile, the fucking border's wide open and he's talking about something that doesn't
make sense.
God, you're talking about fiddling when Rome is burning.
Yeah, deck chairs on the Titanic.
Deck chairs on the Titanic, it's exactly what this is.
It's wild.
Who did, I mean, who?
Who sets it up?
Who's in charge?
I don't know who pushes that mummy out
and tells him to talk about, I'm watching it again,
I can't get enough, I can't get enough.
Because I honestly don't, he's the President of the United States and I have no idea what he's saying.
Well this, I guess, surrogacy back to that topic must really hit marginalized communities
because it's very expensive.
Oh my God, yeah.
So and is Italy trying to outlaw is that the reality? Yeah, they they already had a ban, but they're expanding it to overseas
So people are like Italian citizens overseas. Yeah. No, they're saying like tourism
Birth tourism like people come here. Okay, hire somebody. That's the church, right? That's a Catholic Church. I'm guessing. Yeah
It's weird. I'm guessing doesn't sound like
What's her name? The Italian Prime Minister doesn't sell stuff. She's she's a well a lot of she's she's fairly conservative
She is but she's very of a sort of libertarian
She let things be but I don't know maybe a lot of the critics of surrogacy right now are on the more
Conservative side they lean more conservative and what are they saying? What is their issue with it?
It's like it's not God didn't attend it this way.
Maloney, by the way.
Maloney, that's it.
Yes, yeah, so it's like people would say it's not natural.
There's a lot of criticism of the,
are you taking women who are poor
and who just need to make money
so they're renting out their bodies,
they're renting their wombs because they need the money,
is that ethical?
So there's some ethical concerns.
There's the gay marriage side of things.
Is it ethical if you're poor and you rent out a room in your house?
Is that ethical?
I understand body is a little different, I get it.
The logic is sort of odd to me.
Listen, poor people work 10- hour shifts at a car wash.
You know what I mean?
What you want to be using your body for?
That's like, no.
But here we are.
I don't have money.
So I'll pay to do shit I don't want to do.
And by the way, the surrogates I've seen
are usually highly educated champions of all this.
Well, I think it's going to be like anything else.
It's going to be regulated, then business
are going to get involved, and then there's
going to be protections and insurance and medical this
and that.
I mean, I guess it should be, right?
Yeah.
Once the lawyers get involved, then there's
going to have to be all kinds of documents,
and there's going to have to be health checkups.
It's got to be that way.
Right.
How about if the woman decides she doesn't want to let go of the baby, which happens
also?
Well, that's where the paperwork, the lawyers and the signatures and the companies and the
vetted companies that have these, you know, these are the candidates that we use.
But that's why the women have to be sort of champions of all this and into it because
they've got to be ready to overcome that urge
Yeah, I
bind one more time and then
Go off into the sunset just because it's great. It's just great. And yes, I'm with you. I'm sort of who put him up to this
Thing
It's the greatest Biden clip of all time
decision
Some airlines if you want six more inches
between you and the seat in front, you pay more money.
But you don't know it until you purchase your ticket.
Look, folks, these are junk fees, they're unfair,
and the marginalized Americans,
the hardest, especially low-income folks
and people of color.
Right, him adding people of color
onto the end of everything is the hustle. That's the race hustle part of color. Right, people of color, him adding people of color onto the end of everything is the hustle.
That's the race hustle part of this.
It doesn't affect anyone of color.
It would affect people who made less money,
but so do parking tickets.
They disproportionately affect people
that don't have money, a lot.
So that's how society works, Joe.
Also, it's interesting how society works Joe also
It's fun. It's interesting how wrong he can be in 19 seconds
He goes some airlines you want all airlines if you want six more inches of knee room
Charge you yeah, so it's all airlines
And then it's you don't know it till you purchase it you know it because you signed up for it.
You saw the you actually it's a big box.
Yeah the prices there up front.
Right there's that and then disproportionately affect everything that costs more money affects people who make less money.
It affects them more.
Disproportionately. make less money it affects them more disproportionately disproportionately if a 30 a 44 dollar parking ticket is a proportionately more amount of Byron's
money than it is my money so then it disproportionately affects Byron that's
it and you do find out immediately and then there's the little race hustle at
the end which is poor people and people of color,
which is now we have a distinct separate category
of how this affects people of color.
That's all part of his ongoing race hustle
to then come in and fix things
for the black and brown community,
except for he can't do it,
just like he couldn't do it with the airlines.
Okay, Joe, this disproportionately affects brown people, people of color.
Go right ahead.
I'm all ears.
How do we fix this for people of color?
These so-called junk fees, which are really just upgrades, how would we solve them?
Or what have you done?
This speech is three years old.
What legislation has come down the pike?
What have you signed?
Who wrote that speech?
Who put him up there?
And where were they going with this?
What was their plan?
Who?
I wanna talk to that person so badly.
Right?
Well, travel, first off,
in terms of pecking order of importance,
you know what I mean, if you're poor,
it's like shelter and it's food
and maybe it's dentistry or something
falls under that thing and some sort of healthcare thing,
I don't know, clothing, education.
Where does travel fall, where does travel, why is that?
Air travel, not just travel, air travel.
Air travel, yeah, it's not taking the midnight train
to Georgia, this is air travel.
Where's that, I grow up poor, travel was not a factor,
there was no budget for travel.
Nobody went to an airport or an airplane.
No one did anything.
My dad never got on an airplane.
There was no such thing as travel.
Just where you were.
You had enough difficulty with automotive travel.
You had to go to bicycle.
You had to go to motorcycle.
Yeah, yeah, all right, anyway.
Joe Biden, 19 seconds to Joe Biden, everyone.
Everything, nonsensical, doesn't affect anyone,
with a nice little dollop of agitating black people
at the end.
Nice job, buddy.
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