The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1980 The Great Magnet

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

Adam and Drew talk about AI Girlfriend Abuse that’s becoming a new trend, is it a bad omen or are people overreacting? They muse over nursery rhymes and having children, and the Great Magnet.

Recording live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, got to get it on. Dr. Drew's board 456, 657, 8 essential vitamins. Drew in New York City, what's going on, my friend? Oh yeah. Sorry about the technical problems we've been having here from New York, but yeah, New York is great as always.

And there was something we did not finish with yesterday. I was hoping to hear your thoughts on, and if Daphne is in the control room, I wonder if she could tell us about AI girlfriends and digital abuse. This story intrigued me. She told me that people develop these AI girlfriends, I get it. But they're actually doing shit to them that's macabre.

Really? These guys are creating these AI girlfriends. It's like this chat. It's like you're texting back and forth with this quote unquote girlfriend only for them to start like verbally abusing them and like pretending to kill them basically. Like they're going crazy. Hmm.

Healthy. In some respect, my first thought is, oh yeah, young males, screwball males. This is what we do. We poke at things. We throw things. We poke at things, we throw things, we destroy things that are good. I mean, not all males, but males that maybe

don't like their dad so much or have been misplaced, they'll do this stuff straight away. Yeah, well, you know, every male, let's do an experiment, right? If you took every dude I hung out with in high school, don't laugh. If you took them all and you said, you're going to give a talk and when you give a talk, you're going to have a sign language interpreter you know someone signing what you talk what you say oh then in about eight seconds it would just be fucked bitch shit fuck fuck bitch fuck fuck dilda

and that's all they would do and they would laugh they would laugh because because that would be funny that you would do this they would laugh. They would laugh because that would be funny that you would do this. They would immediately, it would immediately go there with everyone I know. So that's a kind of default setting for male brains. And we don't really get it as a society. It's just weird.

Well, we get it, but we try to root it out, but we don't understand it. And then we try to kind of douse it with baking soda, but it doesn't really work. And everybody then acts outraged when they sort of act like males. And it's a big problem Drew. Mm-hmm. This whole sort of- Tell me. Look, again, I just hang out and I observe and then I see things and I don't like which way the wind is blowing, you know? Yeah.

And I make notes and I say things and people don't care. But I know what's happening. It's part of a weird personal indulgence of like a personal psychology indulgence, which is which is bad. People talking about how first off, I don't need to hear how something makes you feel. I don't give a fuck about how you feel or how this made you feel. By the way, I don't even know why you're telling me how this made you feel.

I don't care. You don't care how I feel. And it's not my fault you felt threatened or you felt persecuted or you felt lessened or you felt whatever that shit's up to you. So stop talking about how everything makes you feel. This is a very bad. In eerie sort of it's a harbinger of things that aren't good. It just keeps. First off, everyone is miserable.

Why? Because you're constantly telling everyone what everything makes you feel like. I felt disrespected. I felt like, I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. I really don't. I really don't. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Get the fuck on with life, would you? And stop telling everyone how everything made you feel. Yeah, and not only that, but the phenomenon of resiliency so you can manage your feelings requires exposure. Yes. And safe space is the opposite of exposure. It's how you make somebody sick. Yes.

You go, oh, you're anxious? Oh, stand over here and feel the anxiety. This will be much better. No, you slather Purell all over them and tell them to breathe through a mask, and now they're allergic to everything. And I've been telling people this for 30 years. What do I say? Stop using so much fucking soap.

Stop it. Stop it. You're screwing yourself up. This is just using too much soap. Stop it. Stop it. You're screwing yourself up. This is just using too much soap. You're not that precious. Get over yourself. Get the fuck on with life. Stop telling me what things make you feel all the time. That's good. You're not that precious. And by the way, if somebody makes you feel bad, you know, like, oh, you got fat shamed or you felt lesser than.

Well, maybe you should get your shit together. How about that? But no one likes that message anymore. No, no, no, no, no, no. And no one's gonna vote for that message. Right. And then you keep slathering on the Purell and getting fatter and you get more angry and depressed

and you turn inward and that's where we're at. The people with the feelings, like who, you know. Okay, let's do a little experiment here, Drew. What group most talks about their feelings or having anxiety or felt threatened or any of that. Any of that. All right, answer. White women, white progressive women,

progressive leftist white women, single young progressive white women speak the most about how things, you know, you felt threatened by Elon Musk you know what I mean whatever who are the most miserable people in the United States actually measurably white progressive women that's actually been documented right so maybe there's a correlation between all your feelings talk by the, feeling threatened by everything versus, you know, the Kid Rock crack a beer and let's hit the river group.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to say there is a correlation there. And I'm saying you sit around, talk about your feelings all the time. It's not helpful. It's not helpful to you. It's not helpful to people around you. So, what do you need? Well, you need to eat a steak, you need to take a cold plunge,

you need to take a hike, you need to listen to classical music, and you need to do a little fuck and a little fighting. That's what you need. And you need to put yourself in positions where it's a little bit dangerous every once in a while. Instead of protecting yourself all the time, you need to challenge yourself and then you'll be happy.

Because it's not really about happiness, it's about satisfaction. And you don't have any satisfaction because all you do is indulge yourself. Well, meaning making, people have no meaning in anything except talking about their feelings. And speaking of doing a little fucking, seems like the billionaire trend is to have lots of babies.

And I actually observed this years ago. This is not a new thing. A friend of mine who was a full time- Hold on, hold on. Now, all of us think Elon Musk, but I don't know who else to think in the billionaire department. Well, let's hear from Daphne,

but I'll tell you about my personal experience. We'll hear from Daphne first. Cause I don't traditionally think of billionaires as guys who, you know, I think about guys who have three wives, but I don't think have a lot of babies. But if you have three wives, you'll have more babies than the average. So wait a second.

So before Daphne speaks up, let me just say my personal experience, and it probably biases why I was not thinking like you are, which is that a friend of mine who was a multi-hundred millionaire immediately had a bunch of kids. And then when he was done, when he, you know, they couldn't do it fast enough, they started adopting kids on top of it. I thought oh I guess this is what you do

and you know a lot of money kind of makes sense to me but Daphne who else doing it? Well I just saw this Heritage article that was claiming that there are other billionaires that are kind of following this trend from Elon Musk but they're not naming any names so I just looked it up quick. And the first thing that comes up is Nick Cannon, who he's just like that actor, right? He has like 12 kids. Yeah, but that's just black guy with a bunch of kids. I mean, half the guys in the NFL are in Nick Cannon's.

And he has a- This isn't billionaire with kids. Nick's pretty wealthy. It's not what you're talking about though. Yeah, my guy was, my guy's, the guy I knew was intentionally, it seemed to me, whatever discussed it. I'm not trying to be a prick.

What I'm saying is, is your initial supposition of all these billionaires with all their kids, I only know Elon Musk in terms of the, I don't know it as a trend. I know it as Elon Musk. And then there's hillbillies that have a bunch of kids. And then there's black athletes that have a bunch of kids. So I don't, I'm poking holes in the premise

of billionaires having tons of kids. I don't think that there's, they're investing in fertility technology. They don't have a bunch of kids yet. There are a lot of billionaires who are looking into it. But they're not done with it. I'm just looking for clarity from what Drew is saying. That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, I agree. All right, go ahead. So, Elon is having a bunch of, look, don't get me wrong. When you don't have any money and you have a bunch of kids, it angers me. Because it's abusive to the kids and it's also abusive to me, the taxpayer. So it abuses everybody and then they end up in prison.

So I don't like you. If you have a bunch of kids, Drew, I'm gonna write down the number on my notepad in which it becomes sort of borderline abuse to the kids. Yeah. At a certain, don't say anything, at a certain number. Yeah.

I think it starts to become a form of abuse because you couldn't possibly tend to all of these kids and give them, you know, what they needed. And I'm gonna write, I got an over under number. I have thought a little bit about this only because I was talking years ago, talking to a friend of mine, smart physician, and these people we were talking about

had six or seven kids, I said, wow, they must really like being parents. And he said, or they don't like being parents. I said, oh, that's interesting. So six has sort of been in my mind since then. So I'm gonna say six. So funny, I was just sitting here vacillating between writing the number six or seven down. And I ended up writing seven, but again, that's abuse.

I have recently run into people who are like, come from a family of five or six, like brothers and sisters, and seem to be pretty adjusted and happy, and sort of have good news to report about their parents. And there's always siblings that did well and ones that didn't do well, but they never, no issues with the unit.

You know what I mean? Well, there is something about that humans were on some level designed for siblings to do some caretaking and attachment. There is something about that that we were evolved for clearly because it just is. Yeah. Well, also my perspective is my parents had two kids

and were overwhelmed. You know what I mean? Yes, I do. So I do a little through the lens of Jim and Chris Corolla. I kind of go, wow, six kids. I couldn't imagine. What would my mom do with six kids? She'd have to live in a shoe.

So it's funny, I was thinking six, but again, six, I'm looking for the number where it becomes abuse. And I didn't think six was abuse, but at seven now there's too many. Well, let's look at the old woman that lived in a shoe. I mean, what a crazy rhyme that was, right? There was an old lady who lived in a shoe.

She had so many children, she didn't know what to do? That's what forced her to live in the shoe. It destroyed her economically. The kids were running a bog. But did she live in the shoe before she had the kids or she had to move from a luxury Manhattan penthouse apartment into a shoe? I think the implication is the kid forced the shoe,

whether or not it was a complete downward spiral or not clear. Yeah, this is why people who write children's books are venerated as heroes, but they're really lazy idiots. Because if somebody, you know, like I'm in a position where I write a lot of jokes and stuff, I write a lot of stuff and people pitch stuff. If somebody said to me, hey, I got a good idea for a premise,

I'd be, what is it? I'd go, there's an old lady lives in a shoe. She had so many kids, she didn't know what to do. I'd go, all right, well, that doesn't mean anything and it's stupid, so don't go any further with that idea. It's a bad idea. That doesn't mean anything and it's stupid. So don't go any further with that idea. It's a bad idea. That doesn't really make sense. No.

You know what I mean? Like they're all, most children's books are junk. Yes. That are just made for six year olds. So it's, they're stupid. And the people who write them are lazy and hacks for the most part. And you know, you know what what, here's what I feel.

Are you with me, Drew? I'm with you. I'm looking at the lyrics or the words of the little old woman. It sort of, it putters out pretty quickly, but go ahead. So you give them broth with no bread. Okay. Yeah. So can I ask you this, Drew?

Yeah. Can we say this? I feel, tell me if you think this is a good idea. I feel like you may call yourself a modern artist and you may just draw giant orbs on a canvas that any kid could do in the second grade, okay? That's fine. But I am going to need you to draw me the human form first so I can sign off that you have ability

and that you're not just bullshitting everyone with your giant fucking bullshit modern art, which is really just means you're a hack who can't actually do fine art. You draw me a sort of Dutch master's hand that almost looks like a photograph, and then you can go draw bullshit that nobody cares about, and I'll sign off on it.

And if you wanna call yourself, you know, a modern artist, DJ or whatever, good. I'm gonna need you to pick up a guitar and play like a Peter, Paul and Mary folk song. And once I realize you can play an instrument, you actually know music, then you can go to your bullshit. Because I suspect you're doing this because you don't have any ability.

And people that write children's books, by the way, when you write children's books, you want to know what's a more accurate term for your position in life or what you do for living is you say, you should be forced to say, I write books for retarded adults. And if you said it that way, people go. What the fuck is that? You go. Well, I've said it a million times. You see the 44 year old guy who's severely impaired and then

someone goes he has a mentality of a six-year-old. Okay, so he's a six-year-old. Yeah, a six-year-old is Okay, so he's a six-year-old. A six-year-old is a retarded 44-year-old. Why have the mentality? Why do we do it? We go, he has the mentality of a six-year-old. He kind of reads at a first grade level. Yeah, okay, he's a six-year-old.

So you write books for retarded adults. Now here's my challenge. Just like the artist, just like the musician, you need to write eight or 10 pages that would make me laugh, that would make me intrigued, that would delight an adult, someone who reads adult material. Someone who says, you do that,

then you go back to writing children's books. I assume you're only writing the children's books because you can't write for adults. And most of these people are fucking horrible. Huh? Or it's a shortcut. It's just an easy... Yeah. Oh, we, we...

And then we go, oh, look at them. They're writing children's books, you know? But look, I feel that same way about mr Rogers I get it was a nice guy and stuff, but yeah comes home takes a sweater off talks to mr Chu Chu train, you know, I mean, it's like give me a fucking break Okay, I'm sorry for being a dick but I Secretly suspect these people when I see the cartoon Caillou

or the cartoon Dora the Explorer, I go, you fucking hacks have zero ability and there's no way you could entertain adults. And by the way, if you could be a staff writer on Bill Maher's show, that's where he'd be right now. But you can't, you write for retarded adults and it's insulting. Other than that, no feelings.

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Yeah. There's, well here's one. This is weird. God, this is weird. There's Frank Leonard Vandersloot, who I'm assuming is of the famous Vandersloots. Yeah. Does anyone know what I'm, you know what I'm talking about?

No, I've heard the name. Anyone at the booth know what I'm talking about. Yes. Yes. Okay, so you guys know what I'm talking about If you have the band God, it's a weird Interesting oh, you don't know. Oh, sorry drew, you know Vanderstoot Vanderstoots the one who murdered Natalie Holloway and That's what I was thinking but I could have sworn. Okay, yes. The pop culture thing is interesting. You can always pick who knows what. This is a tough one for me. I would just be a tough one with me and you, but I would just go no.

But it is a weird thing. It's also interesting that male middle-aged comedians always know what you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about? That's when their testosterone level starts to drop. No, no, they always, no, they look at it as their business to know what you're talking about. Whereas others are like, screw you, I don't know.

Other people get weird and dismissive and sort of defensive. Like, I don't know, why? Well, you think I run some true crime blotter or something? They always pick some weird extreme thing. Yeah. No, it was a big national story and it was all over the place for a while. Yes. I run some true crime blotter or something. They always pick some weird extreme thing. Yeah No, it was a big national story and it was all over the place for a while Yes, and then the guy went back into prison after he murdered like

The maid or something at the hotel he was at after that like okay, but here's my point Here's an inch and and i'm guessing frank lennard vanderslut is the brother of Bjorn vanderslut or or just a common Nordic name or something? Or do we don't know, or we have no idea? No, they're not related. That guy's a Vandersloot, and that guy's a Vandersloot. Yeah. So that's like Brown or Jackson or something

in the Netherlands or wherever they're from. Okay, so not related. Wow, it's a common name, I guess. It sounds so exotic to me, doesn't it? Yeah, I've never heard it before, yeah. We'll find, we'll get to the bottom of it, Drew. Now, here's an interesting thing, right? Now, here's an interesting thing, right? I was sitting around the other day, very recently, Ferris Wilkes has 11 kids, although do we

know who Ferris Wilkes is or David Duffield or Jerry Morris? I don't think anyone knows those names, so. But anyway, billionaire guys who have kids. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. But if we don't know the names, it's probably not that pertinent. But we do know the name VanderSloot.

Now, Drew. So, the great magnet, right? Okay. I was sitting around the other magnet, right? Okay. I was, um, I was sitting around the other day, just a day or two ago, very recently, and, uh, Norm McDonald's name came up, right? Mm-hmm. On Twitter. And I said something like, you know,

I miss Norm or Norm's a good guy or something. I can't remember what it was. But then somebody wrote back because they have to. They go, you know, Adam says that because he knows he's not fit to carry Norm's gym bag comedically or some version of that. And then I wrote back, yeah, I am, because he's been in this studio. I've talked to Norm many times in a comedic environment and I'm more than fit to carry his gym bag.

As a matter of fact, nobody comes in and there's nobody who sits with me, I can't carry their gym bag. It's easy. As funny as Norm is, I've sat with him and free-formed it for many an hour. He's not funnier than I am. He's good, and I'm good. So I'm like, yeah, I am fit to carry his gym bag

because I've done this with him before. And then the next day, I don't know why. I don't know if it's connected, but then I get a longish text from Judd Appetower that says I'm working on a Norm documentary and I've listened to your interviews with him online and some of the stuff online and it's great. And do you have any footage or stuff or text,

stuff to make this doc? So I'm like, huh. I was talking about Norm online just for a minute. It wasn't like a big back and forth thread or anything. I just, somebody accused him of being much, having much more ability than me and I basically said nah I've sat in a room with him. I don't know. It's basically like saying Some guy going that boxer would kick your ass and you know it and then I rode back

I've sparred with that guy many occasions and I was fine So no, I don't think that would happen, but I know we have to pretend or we have to do something now, but hold on Hmm. So then I wake up this morning and I write Judd back and I go I'll look for some norm stuff and then I sat there and I said, you know, I wonder if he Judd I wonder if he what he listened to I wonder if he listened to me and Norm breaking down Kenny Rogers songs or me just interviewing Norm on the radio. And then I thought, oh, and we did this VanderSloot bit where he was the guy. He was VanderSloot's friend.

And we did a whole reenactment. Big, I won't call it famous, but much enjoyed long discussion where he was playing VanderSloot's buddy, and I was playing VanderSloot, buddy and I was playing VanderSloot and blah, blah, blah. And that was this morning. And then I walk in here and turns out Frank Leonard VanderSloot has 14 kids.

And I'm like, how's that work? How's that work? Great magnet. But it's not related to Vanderslut, but still the name Vanderslut is on my screen and I was thinking about it this morning when I was texting Judd and then Judd was working on a Norm doc, probably been working on it for a year, but he hits me the day I'm talking about it and then somebody can go, well, maybe he saw it online. But I don't know.

He's been working on the stock for a while. I don't know how the world works. Do you, the great magnet? You and I have had many experiences like this. We started calling it the great magnet 30 years ago. Because this shit happens. The mathematicians say it's less likely that there would not be coincidences and that's why there are coincidences. I never do the math

Yeah, I never chalk them up to much of anything Other than it is weird that all this norm centric stuff hit in the last You know 48 hours and and sort of random that the VanderSloot would even be on there. But also, like I don't know who Frank Leonard VanderSloot is. So I don't even know why we're discussing him, but he's a billionaire who's got kids. But Drew, I don't think there are more billionaires that have kids than there are hillbillies

or black athletes. No, isn't it? But something I've said forever, the very rich and the very poor have more in common with one another than with the rest of us. Rich man, poor man, Drew. That's it, man. That's it.

That's very true. I literally have 500 examples on a computer of what rich guys and poor guys have going on. Yeah, listen, when I showed up at the psychiatric hospital in 1980, whatever it was, five or four, uh, first thing I saw there was a bunch of very rich people and a bunch of very poor people. And with the exact same disorders, exact same things. Yeah. Oh yeah. Bipolar disorder, drug addiction, universally in both camps.

That's all right. And then some other personality disorders, yeah. That's very interesting, Drew. Yeah. But you know, I'd always just done it from a sort of comedic point of view, rich man, poor man, and it's something I've been working on a lot lately,

but I never thought about it in terms of the psychiatric ward. We should do some sort of Maybe a half hour on it here or something some sort of presentation of it because it'd be really interesting, right? I Do have a presentation on it. No, I'm saying let me participate in it and do Interpret what you're looking at, you know and sort of see if I can clinically make sense of the things you're making fun of. Okay. Yeah, no, I see you screwing that up. I'm just gonna say based on our past experiences. It'd be funnier if I weren't there. It might be, but it might be more interesting if I'm not going to try. I'm not going to try. I'm not going to try. I'm not going to try. I'm not going to try.

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All right, I'm gonna make this announcement, Drew. You ready? I'm gonna make this announcement, Drew. You ready? I'm ready. It says up here, I'm gonna be in San Luis Obispo, and that'll be tomorrow, right? And tonight, I'm gonna be somewhere else, but I'm not sure. Austin?

Oh, Austin, there you go. Yeah. I think that's the way this is working, right? Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah. The last show you said, you're tomorrow. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, Mon. I think that's the way this is working. Yeah, that's right Yeah, I asked it last show you said the uh tomorrow Yeah, there you go. And then and then Monterey coming up at the Golden State Theatre That'll be Saturday and then Sunday Uptown Theatre in Napa beautiful country and the Phoenix Desert Ridge improv Doing that March 14th. It's good. IKerrola.com for all the live shows.

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