The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2003 Grandpa Pinsky

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

In today’s episode, the guys get esoteric and talk about how Simple Narrative becomes Lore. Then they dissect the clip of Taylor Laurens gushing over Luigi Mangione and watch a documentary trailer that’s been making the rounds online. Finally, could Adam possibly be mistaken about something? Find out now!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the show. I'm going to get on that Drew's board. That's this herbalist. What's going on there, Drewsky? Yeah, I've really decided that I'm a time traveler. That's it. You know, when I give talks about addiction, I've started saying, look, I'm a time traveler,

so if I have extreme opinions, understand, I come to you from another era, traveled forward in time. And I don't want to be Grandpa Pinsky, you know what I mean? I don't want to be Grandpa Drew. I just want to share perspective on sort of things that come and go. And I've seen, in addiction in particular, I've seen a million bad that come and go. And I've seen in addiction in particular, I've seen a million bad ideas come and go. And in the last 10 or 15 years,

they seem to become sort of ossified. Like they can't get off them now. They've decided, they've, and it's kind of a lot of- What's ossified mean? Turned to bone, made solid. Like you can't move it, it's a bone. Oh, I thought that was calcified.

Well, that's another, but ossified, oss is bone. It's a bone. Oh, I thought it was calcified. Well, that's another, but ossified. Oss is bone. It's a, well, is it? Oss is sort of, it also means whole. So look up the Latin root of oss. How do you spell that? O-S. Oh, okay.

In any event, I just feel that way about a lot of things now. Climate is one of those things, well, you and I have talked about before, that the ecology movement was something that I was a part of, and so I'm skeptical about everything. And this irrational service- Ossify's hardened, but we need the Latin root, sorry.

You were correct in your description, ossify. Yeah, the oss. Oss primarily relates to bone. So you got it. All right, keep going. Osteoporosis. Right, osteoporosis, exactly. Thank you.

Ostrich. Ooh. All right. All right. Ossulate. Well, you know we. Awesome. That's A-W.

Oh, come on. I was on a roll. Bye bye, so go ahead. Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, so the point is that everything, come on, I was on a roll. But I said, go ahead. Yeah, what's going on? Everything's wrong. So the point is that everything that's old is new again kind of thing, but that people have become weirdly rigid with ideas rather than, I feel like things were

a little more fluid always. People were sort of more, I don't know if it's shitty education or mass formation or political expediency or Trump derangement or something. There's a thing, here's what I've been noticing. What I've been noticing is there's a thing that one side wants and the other side doesn't want and then so what the one side does is they create a narrative and then the narrative becomes sort of like lore but lore is more like factual history yeah

well the lore is more powerful than facts you know? When you talk about what this old gunslinger did in 1821 or whatever it is, it becomes lore. You know what I mean? And in a day of computers, and I've talked to you about this, like I don't know, why do we have lore? You know what I mean? So what they'll do is they'll go like, okay, you take something pretty simple,

like a main issue like the border, you know, and then you say, I want the borders closed because I don't know who's coming over here, and maybe there's some terrorists, and maybe there's some gang bangers, and maybe there's some fentanyl. So either way, I wanna stout, orderly, closed border that will then welcome in migrants and folks

that are documented and properly, you know, wait in line. Go the right way. I mean, it's basically what I'm saying is, there's two ways to get into Disneyland. Buy a ticket and wait in line and go through the turnstile or hop over the fence en masse. And I'm saying, I don't want people going over the fence. Just go get in line, you have to buy a ticket

and you may have to wait. Okay, that's all I'm saying. Your response to that, if you're on the left, is these people who come over here do jobs we won't do. Now, first off, what does that mean? I and Chris and Ray and John Gillingham all dug ditches as white people. We were ditch diggers and construction donkeys. So and historically, this is what we've done. Irish guys and whoever building

railroads and being sandhawks in New York and stuff. I mean, what do you mean, we won't do? Poor people will do about anything for work. And then also, what is it you're saying? Are you saying saying? Are you saying we should have some sort of subjugated sort of lower class under underpaid group doing donkey work that we don't fairly compensate? Because it's not and then they do this thing outside they go you you want to you want a head of lettuce to cost seven dollars? Yeah. And I'm like okay first off dumb shit I don't know what it costs now. Secondly, it doesn't sound like that much considering the travels of the lettuce starting as a seed, you know, watered, put on a truck, and picked and harvested everything. No, seven dollars doesn't sound like that much to me. But thirdly, I'll pay seven dollars if it means the person picking it

is getting a fair wage. What are you saying? You're saying we should it means the person picking it is getting a fair wage What are you saying? You're saying we should not pay the person that's picking the lettuce a fair wage so it can be 375 okay, what is your logic? So then there's this weird thing where they go they do jobs that and it's all cultural elite Fucking lefty college people they have no idea that that poor people work Yeah, and have like normal jobs. I Talked to tons of like white comedians who said jobs, you know when they're selling pesticides and driving trucks and stuff like that All right, no, then they go These people create less crime

Pay more into the system and take less out of the system than the average American, and then they go, all right, everyone got your talking points? I go, yes we do. All right, now we're off and running. Except for none of that's true. Yes. And then they just move on. And they echo it every 10 seconds. Right. And then you go, do you know, California has an exchange program where you can bring people up here legally even though they're not they're immigrants And they're not citizens they come up and they work the fields in the proper season and then they go home That's who does the work that we don't want to do it's a it's an exchange program

That's who does who's gonna clean your toilet, right? And it reminds me of the same the way is there anything more elitist sounding than who's going to clean your toilet? I mean, does that sound really shitty, racist, elitist? So much of the, this could be back alley abortions. Women are going to bleed to death. And I go, it's all done with a pill, everybody. It's done with a pill. There's no, no, no, no, no, no. Right.

70% is done with a pill. Just relax. They take a pill, they go home, and they get that pill shipped to them if they want from anywhere. Or they can go across the lines, get the pill. No back alley abortions, it does not happen. They move right on, keep it up, they keep going. I remember I had that conversation with Gloria already like 20 times before she finally stopped.

They took a couple of years. Yeah, well that's why I unleashed my crystal brain on her ass. But yes, so it's a lot of- But I like the lore thing because the narrative deal, did you see Taylor Lorenz going off about Luigi Mangione? Yes. It was awful. It really was terrible. I mean, but she kept talking about narrative. You

don't understand the narrative. And I thought, oh yeah, right. She's not in reality. She lives in the world of narratives. And that's the world she lives in. She just inhabits that world. Reality begs no concern. And I'm like, oh, it's terrible. I was looking that up. It's from like three weeks ago where that guy went out and he interviewed.

He was doing one of his pieces which is great, which is they're right back to the white supremacy, being the number one whatever. Oh yeah, no it's excellent, it's excellent. And it's great, because they always, the preview for it was, they show a lot of January 6th pushing. You know what's funny?

90%, 95% of the clips they get from January 6th are people pushing. You know what I mean? That's a deadly insurrection, people shoving. I mean it's basically any fucking European soccer game could have the exact same footage at the gate when they're trying to get in to see Manchester United Yeah, you know what I mean? Yes, so it's like oh They put music under it you Bob Bob Bob Bob and they do stuff

But the thing that's funny about that and I'm looking at you Andrew The guy who did that clip, the guy who interviews Taylor Lorenz, he seems youngish to me. Could be 35, could be 38, I can't really tell anymore now that I'm old, but in his whole thing, he does, we'll show you the Taylor Rensing, but there's a funny thing

where he goes, he goes, you know, the roots of America are soaked in blood, you know, they do, like, yeah, there's no issues in other countries, you know what I mean, in terms of blood or upheaval or any wars, no one, everyone else has a pristine record, and then there's us soaked in blood, you know what I mean? But then he does the, that was the old, but then the new one, and he shows Oklahoma City and Tim McVeigh, and I'm like, I looked it up, I'm like, that's 30 years old. You got to dip back,. The guy does interviews 33 You know what I mean? Like

That's the newer three when we executed Tim McVeigh when you were three a fucking pussy So what is this the new scourge the new scourge from 1995? It's very weird I get you're trying to make a theme but it was that his thing But yeah, well fine when you find the clip of his you'll find the clip. But anyway, here's Taylor All right, but do you was a white supremacist? Listen he wasn't even that he was just a government. I whatever they That's that's what they do. Yeah hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their pearls about

someone standing a murderer when this is the United States of America. As if we don't lionize criminals. As if we don't have, you know, we don't stan murderers of all sorts. And we can give them Netflix shows. There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles that sort of mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels. And you see that in moments like this. And I can tell you, I saw the biggest audience growth that I've ever seen.

I can't, it goes on and on and on. This is not the part I was referring to. Oh, it wasn't? Well, later she gets into it, but it's, you know. Oh, I thought this was the whole. This is the interview, but it's quite a bit late. Wanna hear the whole thing? No, I don't.

She drives me crazy. Yes, but she's just an agitator. She's just angry at her dad. Like, it's not really. Tim McVeigh was a disgruntled veteran. Right. I don't know what he was, in the Klan or anything. But I can play you the trailer to this thing.

But I gotta know who this guy is and how old he is because it's curious to me. I wanna know. You say the new version is when he was born. Well, I would never say the new version of anything if I was four, when it happened. You know what I mean? But I don't know how old the guy is.

But maybe we have the clip which is, it's just the CNN trailer of him doing, it's like Anderson Cooper, oh okay, it's perfect. Donnie O'Sullivan is 34 years old. So Donnie O'Sullivan could have been four years old when Tim McVeigh was executed or three years old when the Oklahoma City bomb went off. So he was living in Chichester in three

and sucking on his mom's tit. So I don't know if that's the new, I don't know if this is a new world order for him, considering he was three. And by the way, we took care of that swift and sure, Tim McFay. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Gone. Yeah. Oh, I found this clip you were looking for. Okay. Go ahead. The women who got her outside court in New York. So you're gonna see women especially that feel like, oh my God, right, like here's this man who,

who's revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart. He's a person that seems like this morally good man, which is hard to find. Okay, leave it at that, morally good murder. Yeah. You're gonna find that he was, first of all, what people hang their hat on with him, they go, hey, he was, you know, I've

had problems with healthcare too. Yeah. He wasn't interested in healthcare, Luigi Mangione. He was interested in corporate greed. Lore. It's all lore. Everything is lore. It's gone from narrative to lore. Tim McVeigh was angry at the US government for killing brown people. That a white supremacist? No, but that's not part of the lore. Is that the opposite of white supremacist? All right, so the trailer clip that this guy presided.

Now, Taylor Lorenz was part of the clip, but there's a two minute trailer with this guy. Is that the guy with the sunglasses you're referring to? Yes, it is that guy. This is part of a bigger expose about how dangerous the white man is in the United States, which should be all over the internet because I just typed

in, typed it in, and it's right there on the top. His name was harder to find. I couldn't find his name, but the clip is just the trailer for, you know, extremism in America or whatever it was. It's at the top Just put this guy's name in and put white supremacy or something because again, it's the biggest problem. So now that Joe Biden is too fucked up to talk about white supremacy being the biggest problem in this country and and by the way doesn't care because he's not getting anymore, and then the head of FBI and whatever's ousted, who is going to continue the legacy of talking about this?

And the answer is this guy. He's gonna come here from England and tell us about it. Oh, it's a British guy? He appears to have a British accent, Drew, is all I'm saying. All right, it's got to be right at the top of YouTube there, this trailer, because, oh, he's Irish, sorry. Because I looked it up with ease last night. The guy did an expose for CNN, For CNN, for Anderson Cooper, and it was about the white supremacy and violence and whatever. And it's like there's a two minute trailer and it's online.

So let's talk about narrative versus lore. Do that. Okay. So when something becomes lore, it's sort of now it's, again, back to my original word, ossified, it's myth, right? It becomes shifted into something sort of magical we call myth. How do we unravel myth? Because myth is always inaccurate, right? But there should be sort of a morality tale in myth or something to learn about the human experience. And yet I would argue

that these myths are the opposite. They're teaching you something untrue about the human experience, and yet I would argue that these myths are the opposite. They're teaching you something untrue about the human experience. Hmm. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, I don't know that there's a way to undo myth. You have to just smash it and sort of move forward. You know what I mean?

You're not gonna go, well, these people work harder and do jobs and create less crime I put more and you just go shut the fucking border I'm taking the National Guard and put it at the border, right and they go but these people create. Yep Okay, put in the National Guard at the border. You know what it is when you say that to me Do we have to we have to take a break? Yeah, is that trailer not on? The one I just pulled up last night? Yeah, we're still looking. All right. Well, maybe I'll get my phone during the break.

What are you guys putting in there? It was the first thing that came up. Yeah, CNN, Anderson Cooper trailer. No, we just found the name of the show. It's Misinfo Nation, Extreme America. So now we're looking for that trailer. Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe the Anderson. It's an Anderson Cooper extreme America. So now we're looking for that trailer. Okay. Yeah, maybe the Anderson It's an Anderson Cooper presents sort of thing. Yeah, he's a producer on it. That was a that was a problem All right, take quick break come back right after this Shopify when you see a company like Gymshark and think they have a great product and brilliant marketing

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Yeah, just put in, I don't know, let's see. You could put in, where they put video. Or just put, I don't know, white supremacy. So I wanna respond to what you were saying about just move along, like we're shutting the border, which is that There is a this is this is deeply disturbing to me, but there's a component to this thinking Taylor rands amongst them that is it is

Not connected to reality, right? Mm-hmm and and thoughts that are not connected to reality are technically delusions Yeah, and my consistent feeling has been when people behave like patients, you have to treat them like patients. And when people are in delusional states, you go, uh-huh, move along, let's go, here we go. You don't argue with them, because they're delusional. Yeah, yeah, no, this is the problem.

All right, I'll play this trade. I think it's the one I saw. Let our people go! Let our people go! Let our people go! Let our people go! Trump is your president! He's your president!

Please do not try and come across the street. Monica! Tony, I'm right behind you. Traitors! Ah, there we go. This is your enemy list. This is the Deep State target list, just a portion of it. Who's target number one?

The people want to be free. There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles the mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels. I'm not sure yet if you are or are not on the Deep State target list because I haven't consumed all of the information that you've put forth to determine

what your status should be. But we've been hanging out with us. As we ruin you. As you what? Scary. What's your documentary about? Oklahoma City or is it about Waco? Well, it's about extremism in America.

Okay, so stop talking to me. My fans would love it if I talked to you, but I can't do it. So you can make the gun and the suppressor in a date. Three, two, one. I just don't like to feel you're not allowed to talk to this person. Like, why can't I talk to him? There's a growing number of folks that want maximum punishment maximum maximum punishment I think most people

feel like violence was justified in certain instances they're dangerous individuals America America's founded on violence we have to fight back they want somebody to take on this system they have her as an extremist. They're making her sound like one of the extremists. Who? Oh, uh... Yeah, it's sorry.

The clip, you know what? It's the easy clip. It's the 30 seconds. It's a tweet I liked. It's America's founded on violence. It's that same black woman. It's a quicker one. It's got the McVeigh and the stuff in there.

Whatever. That one didn't have it in there. It made no sense. What I just looked at made actually no sense. It's not even hanging together. You can show crowds walking with an American flag and they go, boom, boom, boom. But they could be going to a soccer game. Yes.

In their high school, could be playing Rio de Janeiro's team. Olympics, it could be the Olympics. Or maybe they're just Americans who are like patriotic. Yeah. But you put that music underneath it. And then they put Taylor Renze's comment in there as though she's an example of extremism, which she is.

But of course, she's going to come out as the hero. And then they bring up footage from 30 years ago. Waco text 40 years ago. Waco was like 40 years ago. And then McVeigh was 30 years ago. McVeigh was 30 because I went and looked that up. And Waco's probably before that. It's so odd.

It's dishonest is what it is. Well, look, you had Biden and then, what's his name from the FBI, explain that white supremacy is the biggest problem. Okay, when you turn on the news, what do you what do you see? You know, I mean like who's getting pushed onto the subway tracks I was getting a shit kicked out of them, you know on the streets of the shootings at the park or in the or at The party or whatever like what?

What what what is that? You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. It's a white supremacist What is that? You know what I mean? It's the white supremacists. Yeah, I'm just saying, when you see violence and you hear about murders, and you got a white kid and a black kid up in the bleachers, one of the kids is stabbed and dead,

the other kid stabbed him. So which one's dead? Which one did the stabbing? Like it just doesn't really comport with what you see when you walk around. We're getting next to the 30th that we're just past the 30th anniversary of local, Oklahoma City bombing

Waco when was that? I'm gonna tell him fine Waco, but look at my favorite tweets with that With that trailer from like last night on that chick. I want to say, Waco's 93. So it wasn't- Really? How would you put that in the 80s? I wouldn't maybe think of Ruby Ridge. I don't know, but I wouldn't have put it,

I would have put it around that time. Okay. Waco occurred, yeah, February. I remember this sort of like Collective Condemnation of so much of the extremism ever is like those guys come from Ruby Ridge was 92 by the way But yeah, well, yeah, so times All right favorite tweet somewhere last night trailer you can look. We'll talk about something else.

Is it there? No? Oh, your mic's not on, Daphne. We're looking through your like tweets right now. We're still scrolling, haven't seen it yet. I saw it last night. So don't. Did you like it, Matt?

You must like a lot of stuff. This happens a lot. This happens a lot with me. So the answer is maybe no, although at some point we do figure out that I like it. What is on your thread? I'm trying to figure out what you're doing here. You like a lot of stuff.

Well, I use it as a reminder to talk about stuff when I come in. Let's talk about the ADHD thing. Well, somebody tweeted it to me. Yeah. I think I liked it, but perhaps I didn't like it. But it was still a 30 second clip from that show that we just saw.

And it started with that black woman explaining that America is rooted in racism. Violence. Or violence. Sorry, go ahead, Drew. I just like it when things are presented in the press as, oh my God, new thoughts, things that have been controversial

and thought for decades in medicine. So the new thing is, is ADHD what we thought it was, blah, blah, blah, because I think the lore is that ADHD is some biological process with a genetic basis, which of course it is, but how you get there is a complicated process that we've known for a long time. Guess what?

Shocking childhood trauma is associated with ADHD. Addictive biology is associated with ADHD. Having an addict in the family is associated with ADHD. All these things create the syndrome of ADHD, and looking at these sort of causational or maybe triggering or confluent interest issues sort of suggest alternative ways of treating it. Yes, correct. It shouldn't all be treated with psychostimulants.

And psychostimulants maybe shouldn't go on more than a year. I've always been skeptical of psychostimulants for so-called adult ADHD. The vast majority of adult ADHD that I see is just addiction, alcoholism. And so you put them on a psychostimulant, of course they're good patients, of course they feel better. You're fueling their addiction. They feel great for a while and then their addiction takes off. So this is all shit that's been going on for a long time, but they still, I found it kind of interesting, the way this story was presented,

still resisting dealing with childhood trauma, still, and adverse childhood experiences. That if you look at that, that, like, families, family structure structure family health diet and education It's all the same. I know and if we just looked at that we would do a line kid alliance share of uh, ADHD and by the way with ADHD, it's weird. We both over treat and under treat simultaneously There can be utility in psychostimulants for kids, for sure. Properly selected, properly screened,

and then by the way, if they also have childhood trauma, you might wanna treat that too shockingly. It's all back to the family, everybody. That's all I ever say. It's lots of arguments. Family and education. Family and education. I have this, I never stop having this conversation

All right Somebody tweeted it to me last night. We're still like eight o'clock at night So I had maybe I didn't like it Maybe you just look at my tweet look at my timeline. Could you've retweeted it? Well, you know now I I could have no no, I you just have to go over my tweets and so somewhere around last night I mean here's what I'm saying I am willing to get an Instagram or something now no listen I obviously I didn't like it but if I keep saying it came in last night then if you can access my Twitter then you'll see from last night,

somebody tweeted it to me, or at least I saw it last night. So look at the Adam mentions, I guess. Yeah, that sort of thing. Then it'll come up. I like a lot of tweets, but for some reason, some fall between the cracks, although I'm confused because I'm pretty sure I like this one. But it was, now it's more of my Moby dick

And I'll have to get off the air and and find it immediately or but it's also exists online somewhere too because someone Tweeted to me. It's basically a 30 second Preview of the two-minute one that I'm looking at your notifications. You get a lot of notifications. So All right. Well, she got drew. Well, I'm just thinking about exposure again. These are themes that I'm gonna at your notifications. You get a lot of notifications, so give me a sec. All right. What else you got, Drew? Well, I'm just thinking about exposure again. These are themes that I'm gonna keep bringing up. I'm giving a talk to a group and they were like, I'll teach us how to deal with stress. And I was looking at the public, what the American Psychological Association recommends and what the social services recommends, what psychiatry recommends. It's like,

take time to meditate during the day and call your supervisor and make sure you have work-life balance. And I thought, these people have really stressful jobs. They need to develop resiliency and they need to lean in to their shit, not hide from it, not send it over to somebody else. This is bullshit. They need to have more exposure. I agree. Not send it over to somebody else. This is bullshit. They need to have more exposure. I thought and I think back to my training you think I withdrew when people things got stressful in the war so I leaned it got took more responsibility I wanted to learn more when we will handle this shit. I agree. You hide away from it you lose man. No. It's a losing proposition. She's showing for, she's showing me the dog on the plane.

I'm like, I can't fly without, you better fucking figure it out. Fucking weakling. Don't just fly with your dog on the plane. Oh, here it is. There it is. Now when was this from? Or did I?

It's three minutes long and we found it on Donnie O'Sullivan's on his Twitter page. It was not on yours at all. How is it that somebody tweeted it to me though? That's the weird part, right? Oh, maybe not. Oh, who knows? Listen, well, just see if he gets

into the Tim McFay stuff here. Sorry, we'll hear it. Three minutes. Nathan Syler is a long time progressive activist. We've met before. I've seen you at protests in Washington, D.C. Yes. Against Trump.

Yes. Against January 6, all that sort of stuff. Yes. Is accepting the violence that was committed against Brian Thompson. America was founded on violence. America was founded. I make America great again.

And textiles. They came and massacred the indigenous people millions and millions I started to feel sorry for these people right murder of a healthcare CEO. Does that Doesn't that make your side as culpable? I don't hear them condemning this the pro boys who he said standby Whatever they start. I want this. Yeah, you know what? It's this whole thing cut into 30 seconds. That's the weird part. Yeah, maybe it's on, I don't know, maybe it's on my feed. Is that different, Drew?

I get confused by this stuff too. I think you just happened upon it. I happened, no, I happened upon it. There's two buttons. There's one is- I was thinking that, but I didn't say that. Well, no, there's one that's my stuff that people send me, and then the other one is just the feed

where it's like random stuff. Yeah, like it's the people that you follow, so you're scrolling through. Oh yeah, I happened, maybe I happened upon it. I think so. Yeah. I like the way she said it's happened upon, lightened your way to, more digestible.

Well, this will have Tim McVeigh in it. The monocle fell out of your eye I like the way she said it's happened upon, lighten your way to digestible. Well, anyway, this will have Tim McVeigh in it. The monocle fell out of your eye when you happened upon it. Or maybe you type his name in in Tim McVeigh. I don't know. Come on, Drew. You're long for the ride. You can run, but you just scrub what we just had.

No, because somebody cut this up with Tim McVeigh. If you put her or him and Tim McVeigh in, I bet something will come up. Here's one for you, Drew. I had to do a little soul-searching. Uh-oh. I had to. Okay.

I was... I happened upon something on Twitter, and it was about, uh, you need light. You need sunlight. You know, you need... And you shouldn't be... and it should come through your eyes and not wear sunglasses everywhere. And I thought to myself, well, I always wear sunglasses and I'm now because I always wear sunglasses. I'm kind of sensitive.

Like I go, oh, I gotta put my sunglasses on. And then I found myself going, well, I like sunglasses. I wear sunglasses. I always heard sunglasses were good. You know, op, op, op, I like sunglasses. I wear sunglasses. I always heard sunglasses were good. You know, the opti opti, wait a minute, ophthalmologist said, put the sunglasses on, you know, but then I thought, but hold on, Adam, let's be consistent. You've railed against the the surreal sunscreen and all the blocking of the nature. And you have to put sunscreen on to go to your mailbox. You should apply it liberally before you go to your mailbox

I have a perspective put on top your hands because of the steering wheel and I was like well Adam You're not being consistent here. If you're into God made germs God made son God nature made whatever you should be exposing yourself Blah blah blah like like and now you're putting your sunglasses on. So what is it? So God did not make us to live as long as we do. And one of the mechanisms whereby you can get sight loss is UV induced macular degeneration. I was a lifeguard when I was a kid. I never wore sunglasses.

I have UV macular degeneration, and I wish I'd worn sunglasses. That sun exposure is more for like mood and diurnal variation or Cycling or hormone cycling stuff. It's not that big a deal the UV damage is a big deal I'm hearing people say you should go out for the first 10 minutes without your sunglasses on, get it into you, and then put your sunglasses on. There's something to that, and certainly if you're trying to get over jet lag, yes. Oh, interesting. So it's good for cortisol, it's good for your psyche,

good for your brain, but look, everything's a balance. It's a balance. I get it, I'm just saying, I'm the one who's saying stop slathering it on all the sunscreen. May I be doing the same with glasses? I had, and there's no one thing for everybody. I had radial keratotomy, so I have to wear sunglasses all the time,

because more sun gets in than should. Uh-huh. So it's, so it's. All right. I'm gonna be, I don't think we can find that clip, but it'll be for the next show now. I'm gonna run to my phone. I'm trying to figure out how I saw that thing Doing stand-up over there and bellflower coming up May 24th and then Tacoma drew go to amcrawler.com for all the live shows What do you got drew go to dr.com and subscribe and rumble ask dr. Drew. So till next time Adam Kroll for dr

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