The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2013: Critical Thinking 101

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

In this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, Adam opens the show by venting his frustration with the growing lack of basic courtesy in modern society, prompting Dr. Drew to offer some practical advice on how to behave like a decent citizen. The conversation shifts to the crucial role fathers play in shaping individuals and communities, as the duo reflects on the cultural impact of fatherlessness.Later, Adam breaks down the difference between a logical mind and a suspicious one, before turning his sights on the ideological flaws of far-left leadership. Adam and Dr. Drew engage in a thought experiment designed to strengthen critical thinking skills, and the episode wraps with Adam laying out the root cause of California’s ongoing homelessness crisis.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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and are available wherever you find podcasts. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah, get it on, got to get it on. What's going on there, Dr. Pinsky? Yo, man. So I'm in New York, obviously, and we're working hard to improve the quality of what we bring back to you here. So that's, that's the, the interesting background I've got. But I was thinking about you, because Scott Adams brought you up in a recent stream he did. And he was he wasn't talking so much about you. He was talking about people that essentially made a reputation by

standing up for what they, he was, I forget exactly the context of what he was saying. And he was talking about people that had just called it like they saw it and were honest, but weren't afraid and weren't afraid to speak their mind and whatnot. And I started thinking, have we, you know, you always say you haven't changed in the last 20 years. And I completely agree that your insights and your sort of position on things is exactly the way it's always been.

But we must have changed a little bit across that time. We're certainly preoccupied with things that we didn't even imagine we'd be preoccupied with 20 or 30 years ago. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, let's address that. Okay, first things I am I'm weird. I do I do I do know that I'm I'll tell you where my Asperger's kicks in little like, I have a little rag here that I usually use to wipe my glasses off, but it's gone.

Somebody did something with it. But I don't know why, but it's not out of the realm of me, but it's just a weird, it's just weird little stuff. Like I'm very, it happens to me frequently where I go, hey, where's something, something? And they go, I just took it and brought it over to the, and I go, why are you fucking with me? Like, why?

And then people get kind of weird about it. Like, I am just trying to help, but I'm like, just don't touch it. I also have a weird thing is I keep telling these guys, it's interesting, cut and paste, cut and paste. I think it's the enemy now. I'm looking at this screen that says, has a whole screen full of dates on it

and I just keep telling everyone, just tell, I'll just be in Vegas 19 through the 21st two shows. Like you can just write it on there. Instead it's an entire chart of 19, 20, 20, 21, 21. It just keeps going and I'm like, what just cut? Don't do the cut and paste. Just go in Vegas, 19 through the 21st, two shows, six and eight.

But anyway. But it's not the cutting and pasting, it's the not reading. And with GCPT and the court rock and stuff. Well, maybe it's that. Or maybe it's that I just keep, I repeat myself over and over and over and everyone just goes, I took it off the website or whatever that is. But anyway, all right. So don't know where my little wipey rag is

and I'm not sure why we can't just, here's my thing. My thing is just, I just keep saying the same thing over and over and everyone just goes, all right, that's right from the website. I go, okay, there's seven dates on there and it takes up the whole screen and it's just,

you just write it. Anyway, okay. Guys, don't touch the Adam's blankie. I mean, wipey rag. No, I had a situation last night where I bought, I got something specifically the day before, like I brought it and it turned out someone grabbed it, moved it, it's packed at the other house kind of thing.

And I'm just like, why? Just don't touch it. Like I keep saying to people, who cares? Don't touch it, just leave it alone. Like I know what I'm doing. Anyway, all right. Change. Okay, so here's how it works.

No, I haven't changed. I don't know what, you start off by, first he said Scott Adams brought you up, and then you said, but not really, but he was just talking about change. But I don't know if he brought me up or not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He was talking about people that have spoken their mind

through all the craziness in the last five years, and haven't been afraid to, essentially. And he made it, I didn't frame it right. And he made it sound like you had developed a position right leaning that you suddenly were part of this campaign to assert that position. And I thought, no. Wait, in this discussion we're still unclear a little bit whether he brought me up by name.

He did. Okay. All right. But he put you on a list with sort of Rogan and himself and people who sort of made a name, he said, for talking about these issues. And I thought, I get why you put Adam on the list, but it started me thinking. So it started me thinking about the fact that you haven't changed, but that it started me thinking. So I mean, I don't like, okay, I haven't changed, but we must have.

Now, okay, well, let's see. Okay, I, Rogan doesn't belong on any list because Rogan's just sort of a, he's very curious, asks a lot of questions. And you do start to evolve into something if you get the wrong answer, the right answer to the same question. You know, you start to enter a camp,

but you're not really entering the camp. You're being kind of shuttled toward the camp. You know what I mean? I mean, I guess I bring up COVID a lot. And the reason I bring up COVID a lot is because it started off sort of inertly and I got my little rag in my clean bottle. But why do you think it's gone, do you think, Andrew?

I don't know. There were two earbuds on top of it in the office, which is a strange setup. All right, anyway, the point is, is somebody came in to get something, which what happens all the time, people just move your stuff, but they never move it back because they move, here's the thing, all right,

you know what I think gets to me? I don't know why. And it's a much deeper level thing. People have the need for something in a certain place, right, they go, I need that razor knife, that utility, that box cutter, I need it in the back to cut the boxes up so I can open the box.

And then you go, okay, so what do they do? They go to where you keep it, they pull the drawer open, they take it out, they go to the box, they slit the box open, guess who doesn't need the box cutter anymore? Right. Well now they're done. So now what propels them to get the box cutter from where they don't need it anymore to the place where you think it is? What comp what compelled what what's the incentive? Well, well the only thing would be being responsible or courteous or something right? Yeah. Most people I have found when they're done like I said you you you walk down PCH

you go in front of there's a McDonald's drive-through on PCH. When it comes out on the PCH on the left hand side of the sidewalk it's all full of gum. Why? Because the people got their fries and once you get your fries you're done with your gum. So now what do we do with your gum? Because you're done with it. Do we find a wrapper, a piece of paper, do we stick it to the dashboard, or do we just take it and tear a piece of the McDonald's bag off and spit it into that and then ball it up and put it to the side? Do we do that? Because that's kind of a calorie burner, just like bringing the box cutter back from the

back up back for what? That's a little bit of a calorie burner. Or you can just spit it out the window and then eat your fries. Now, doing it properly is an extra 15 seconds, maybe 20 seconds, but so is walking the box cutter back to the drawer. So do you want to engage in that because you're either done with your box cutter or you're done with your gum. And I would argue that the

sad wiring of most people is you need to tell them you're gonna get fired if you don't bring that thing back to the whatever or you're gonna get a summons or a ticket or fine or something if you spit your gum out, which they will still do, but this time they'll look around. But there is an interesting sort of what's called deontological philosophical embedded in this, which is you're supposed to, you're best off. Our best world and your best life

is a life led where you imagine, there's a formal way to say this, but I think the simplest way to think about it is as though there's a camera running at all times and people can evaluate your behavior. That is your best life. It's best for you. It's best for the world. Well, I want you to know, Drew. It's a discipline.

It's a discipline. You got to do it, do it, do it. But once you do it for a while, it becomes how you do it. One mode, not their mode, your mode, your box cutter, his gum. Would you spit the gum out onto the floor of your apartment if your french fries arrive? Of course you would not. Why not?

It's my apartment. OK, well, it's our sidewalk. OK, but that's what makes a culture culture. And that's where we're coming undone. That's, that's what I'm no dads. That's, that's my argument. I'm going to bet I think a wonderful and fascinating study would be the simplest study in the world. Stand there, watch the gum get spit out, stop the cars, and go, we raised with a dad, yes or no? That's it. That's your study. Yeah. Everything is not raised with a dad. I mean, that's the, you know, we can, okay.

It's what dictates everyone's success. The cultures or the groups that have a worst percentage of raised by dad are the worst. I mean, it's pretty much like this. I was just looking at tweet, I've sort of committed the numbers to my head. But it's blacks, I don't know, 67%, no dad in the house, close to 70. I thought it was over 70, but it's like 68, 67%. Mexicans, second.

Hispanics, second. 45%, no dads in the house. Third, whites, 24%. 24% and last Asian 12%. And then you just invert that and who's having the most success in our culture and it's exact inversion of that number. It's done, the dad is in, it's always been in, we've known the answer.

And that's why, by the way, I will not listen to one race hustler speak who never brings up dads in the black family. And it's sort of the same dads in the family for the race hustlers are the same with the people who won't talk about nuclear when they're talking about global warming. You know what I mean? You never stop talking about fossil fuels, but you're against nuclear, a clean form of energy, and you never stop talking about lifting up the black community, but you never talk about dads in the house.

So I'm not gonna listen to either one of you because I think you're corrupted and you're basically lying, essentially. Now, if you wanted to be a black leader, by the way, if you're a black leader and you start talking about dads, then you're a Republican. That's basically how it works. Anyway, all right, back to Scott Adams.

Yeah. Okay. You, me, Joe Rogan and whomever, I think are people that are sort of scratching around for the truth. Now, eventually, something like COVID comes around, and I'm pretty neutral at the beginning because I don't know what it is, and I'm just assuming, you know, protect yourself.

I don't have fear just because, I don't know, I, that stuff is just not stuff I think about. I just figure I'll be fine. COVID ended up exactly how I thought it was gonna end up. My kids are fine, everyone I know is fine, and I'm fine. Okay. And, you know, but X amount of people died, but you always figure that as well.

So, but then you start wondering why they're trying to corral you and push you and cajole you into things. And now what happens is you have your logical mind where you're just kind of taking stuff case by case, but you also have the mind that realizes the other side is constantly trying to manipulate you. And so now it's a logical mind meets a suspicious mind. Now I used to just have a logical mind.

Now I have a logical mind meets a suspicious mind. Because I had a second. Is that a new quality in you? Well, yeah, well, I mean, you listen, Drew. Yeah. Thirty years ago, you heard me going, 56,000 Americans dive, secondhand smoke. Give me a fucking break.

They keep putting it on the billboards, secondhand smoke, first rate kill. 30 years ago, I was going, these people are lying. Okay, so what was I doing? Well. Suspicious. I was suspicious of them and their information. Do you know what I'm saying?

So I've always been that way. But it's only because it's merited. No, and it's used to be in very siloed areas. Now it's fucking everywhere. Right. And so, and COVID sort of blew the lid off that. I completely agree with you. Yeah, so now does that make me Republican?

Well, look, I'll be the opposite of whatever Gavin Newsom is because all his ideas are bad, right? So I'll be the opposite of what his ideas are. We'd be with him. If they were good, I'd sign up for Gavin Newsom, two good ideas out of his head and I'd kind of lean his direction. But zero good ideas, zero.

Right, well, it's not that he's unlucky in the idea department. They have a posture or a, they have a weird process and their process is backwards, you know. So catalytic converters are being stolen so you wanna blame Toyota. Test scores for minorities are too low

so you wanna get rid of test scores. Cops arrest too many black people so we'll get rid of cops. You guys, you have such a flawed process that I can set my watch on your flawed process. It's easy. Their process is flawed. They're flawed. It's not like everything is just a coin toss

or case by case. It's flawed. You know what I mean? We're going to announce this is a sanctuary city. People aren't getting paid enough money. Let's raise the minimum wage to $30 an hour to fast food. Whatever that is, it's all the wrong idea. And so it's easy. You could essentially, if there was a, you know, there's two ways to deal with going to the track, looking at a racing form and trying to win races. You could go over every race and check the odds and the favorites and everything else, or you could just hand

the racing form to Gavin Newsom, tell him to pick all his favorites, and then you pick the opposite horse. It's a fast it's a faster way to do this. I know I mean it like, where? Yeah, I mean, that's based on his record, by the way. I like I said, I happily go along with him if you come up with some good ideas. But I think that's next to impossible. Yeah, well, Gavin Newsom wants to shut the beaches. Okay, let's open the beaches. He wants to shut outdoor dining.

Let's open outdoor dining. It's pretty, and by the way, what's he say about where the virus came from? A wet market? All right, it came from a lab. Hunter Biden's a laptop. Real or fake? He says fake.

Okay, I'll go real. Joe Biden, compromised or not? Gavin Newsom says he's at the top of his game. Okay, then I go real. Joe Biden compromised or not. Gavin Newsom says he's at the top of his game. Okay, then I'm gonna say he's compromised. I'll just say it's easy. I mean, you can do it with Adam Schiff. You can do it with all, you know, AOC. You can do it with all of them. You just do the opposite. Now you go, well, maybe that's because you're a Republican. That's like, maybe, but also I would like to have a high batting average and be correct. So if you did the opposite or said the opposite of Gavin Newsom all through COVID, then

you'd have a high batting average or CNN or whatever. It's easy. So in a weird way that people with those kinds of ideas, again, eliminate cops, eliminate tests, as you just described it, sort of force you into a position that sounds right leaning, right? Well, I guess what it is is you go, I mean, I think both things can be true at once. So you go, Adam, let's talk to you about COVID or let's just talk about the last four or five major events

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And the Kremlin is put Trump in the White House and First off is there any evidence that Putin wants Trump to be the president? I don't feel like Putin wants Trump to be I feel like Anybody who's around the world who's a dictator or who's a bad-doer? Would much rather have Biden or Kamala Harris or Barack Obama or someone that can Iran would much rather have Kamala Harris than Trump. I think we're gonna some evidence that China was messing with the 2020 election perhaps, right? Okay, but all of the bad doers want somebody soft and sort of inert and impotent Someone's just gonna talk in circles and never squeeze any triggers or do anything.

But all right, let's just say, all right. We'll go sequentially. Okay, steel dossier, Russian collusion. Adam, what do you think? Don't buy it. Don't think it's true. Okay, so you're a Republican. All right, next subject, COVID.

What do you think, Adam? Overblown, don't wanna get the shot forced on me, don't want my kids to get the shot. Probably came from a lab, since there was a lab that worked on such stuff. Don't really believe Fauci, think he was involved with gain of function. I don't know what the six foot thing means.

I don't know what the six foot, I don't know what masking is, especially if everyone's wearing it around their fucking chin. Not buying that. I don't know why masking is, especially if everyone's wearing it around their fucking chin. Not buying that. I don't know why churches have to be closed, but liquor stores and strip clubs can be open. So I'm not buying. I don't know what Gavin Newsom's doing at the French Laundry with 33 of his closest friends. I'm not buying this.

Alright, Republican. Alright, what's next? Hunter Biden's laptop. Well, I interviewed Tony Bobulinski, seems like a pretty straight shooter to me. He's very specific and somebody owns a laptop. They dropped it off. This guy has a laptop. Yeah, but what about Russian collusion in the laptop?

Well, you know, you said Russian collusion for four years about something that turned out not to be true. So I'm gonna tend to think you're just saying, I think you graph Russian collusion for four years about something that turned out not to be true. So I'm going to tend to think you're just saying, I think you graph Russian collusion onto everything you don't have a good answer for or it hurts your party. I'm going to go with real, accurate, Tony Bobolinski and the FBI had it. And I don't know where the 51 experts came from. I got to tell you, that's interesting to me that they all signed this, signed onto this letter.

But I'm going to go ahead with authentic and real and did a bunch of business and Joe Biden knew about it and was the big guy for 10%. Okay. Republican. All right. What's, what's next? What's, what's that? Uh, Joe Biden.

Yeah. Compromised or not? Yes. Compromise. Well? Yes, compromised. Well, what about that whole interview he did with the Asian guy? Yeah, they won't release the audio of it. Why not?

They don't want it out there. Okay, I tend to believe Robert Herr. Seems like a straight shooter to me. He interviewed the guy. I think he was being charitable. Said he was an old guy, forgot a bunch of numbers. Well, what about cheap fakes? You mean you mean stuff where you film him and he looks out of it? Yeah but it's edited. Well it's edited in that they take the two minutes where he looks out of it out of the

two-hour tape but is it but again the P diddy beating this girl in the hall of the hotel is edited as well. That's just a security footage. There's 14 hours of people getting in and out of the elevator that we don't really need to see. We need to see 30 seconds of it. I want to stop you real quick right there because there's an interesting aspect of that thinking

that we've never discussed, which is they have a way of taking a large piece of time. And when somebody commits a crime in a tiny sliver of time, they want the person credited for the rest of their life. And forget about the sliver where they were a murderer. They were mostly not a murder, mostly peaceful, mostly fine. Yeah. It's really interesting. Yeah. you didn't see footage of Joe Biden making eggs earlier in the day, he was fine. Right, mostly fine. All right, so Joe Biden being out of it,

being compromised, mentally compromised. I tend to not believe CNN, I do think he's compromised. I've seen the cheap fakes, they all seem just like, edits of footage where he's completely out of it. And so I'm gonna go with compromise. Okay, Republican. Okay, all right, four biggest stories.

I went on the Republican side for all of them. All right, but I also went on the accurate side of all of them. So now, which is it? Is it both? Is it just being accurate? Now you're de facto Republican Well, I don't know if you're if you're a de facto Republican by being correct then that's on you

Right exactly. And so and so you and I have no allegiance to any party We've spent most of our radio career fighting the right. And if I started thinking, what would the left have to do for me to sign up? You know what I mean? If they're correct and they're making sense, I'll sign up. But they almost never do. And the other thing that what's embedded in that all the examples you gave is this weird Histrionic this weird hysteria, right and it begs no alternative once it gets going that's the other part

They don't they don't you can't have conversation about what is or is not likely to be true well when they say you've changed that what they mean is they've changed because when they say you've changed, what they mean is they've changed because everyone via the internet always throws up footage and they throw up footage from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and Bill Clinton and they throw up footage from 04 and 99 and 97 and 2010 and it's them up there just saying

all the stuff you agree with. Right. So if you're up there, yeah, but listen, I think there's a really interesting thing in this because what they're really saying is you don't care. I used to think you cared so much, but you don't care. Yes. That's so fucking bullshit. That is so terrible. And it's in I we got to parse that apart a little

more. Because what is it in them? That has them sitting in judgment of whether or not somebody else's care, cares and that is again, that discharging of emotion that theatrical component that you need to understand I care. And that's not actual caring well it's a toxic empathy it's toxic empathy that's no I listen I agree look I don't care that is true but if you said well I don't you never cared you never cared I always cared look what do I look like first things first I don care. You should hope everyone doesn't care like I care.

Pays the kind of taxes that I pay and doesn't and stays out of trouble like I stay out of. So I don't really care if you care or you don't care if you pay shitloaded taxes and you never break the law and you raise your family, then then you're fine by me. I don't know what's going on in your head. By the way, you can be racist as long as you don't discriminate against anybody. I don't care. I don't care. Be as racist as you want in your head.

Don't care as much as you want in your head. That's another interesting thing. So people are busy examining the mind reading of your inner soul. I could tell you're a bad person. Well, I don't. That's what they do with Trump. Well, yeah, they do it with me, they do it with you,

they do it with Trump, they do it with everyone. It's a weird, it's a strange, I mean, look, it's an insanely narcissistic thing to say. Boy is it. I really know when people are dumb, and I point that out, but the part where they're mean or they're evil, or they, I never, I don't know know who the hell even knows what that is I'm sure that they're just motivated by something you know okay so look here's

the thing I don't care about the homeless problem I don't care about the homeless but if in it's a problem and you would like to solve it, then I will tell you how to solve it. Now, do I care? No. Do I not care? No. It's neither here nor there whether I care. You know, the people who come into your house all day and, you know, unclog your toilet and fix your breaker box and, you know, clean the gutters and fix your breaker box and you know clean the gutters and your I don't know do they care do they care I don't know I don't know if they care I don't care if they care I just whatever that I want them to perform and do a job I don't really care if teachers care I don't care if coaches care I don't care if cops care I don't

care if school bus drivers care. I just want them to do their job effectively and safely or whatever the parameters are. Airplane pilot, do you care? I don't know. Do I care that they care? I would argue as a physician you need to care. It's an important part of the process. Well, look, you're talking to somebody face to face. When you're talking about the homeless problem, you're just talking about thousands of people just strewn about the streets. I'm not a one-on-one relationship.

Even as a physician, you have a set of protocols, and the protocols are the protocols. It's not Tim's protocol, it's the protocol. You check signs, you don't look at, well, you have unique blood pressure, unique vital signs, you need, it's the protocol, you know, you check signs, you look at, you don't look at, well you have a unique blood pressure, unique vital signs, you know, it's just, you got some, you're looking for 120 over 80, not Gary's 120, not his, just, you're looking for 120 over 80, and you want to get back to that, and that's that, it's a number, it's just parameters,

numbers and protocols. So, I'd like to clean up the homeless, okay. What's the issue? Well, there's too many homeless. Well, who are the, my first question is, who's comprising this group? Why would you be homeless? Why would you choose to sleep on a sidewalk? It's a mother of three, who just lost her job.

That's right, full-time, no, no. Down on the sidewalk. Drew, it's a mother of two who has a full-time no no down on the sidewalk true the mother of two Who has a full-time job? But she's getting minimum wage, you know And and she's been divorced and as anyone knows I've been divorced in California You take all the stuff and you give the woman nothing nothing for her and the kids

That's how it works. That's how it works. That's how divorce works. You take all her stuff. Oh, I take you take all of your together, all your stuff. And then you say, you get nothing. And then they leave, they live on the sidewalk. That's how California divorce works. I'm just getting ready to sign,

just getting ready to sign over my retirement account to my ex-wife right now. Yeah, so she doesn't have to be on the sidewalk. But that's how the laws work over here. So I don't think it's that Gavin Newsom, I think it's drugs and mental issues. That's what I think. So, but I'd like to solve the problem. Do I care?

No, I do not care. But if you're asking me to solve the problem, then I'm going to try to find out who the population is. Now, if you say, who's coming to this country? Who's trying to get into this country for Mexico? Oh, rich industrial types who are well-educated. I'd go, okay, well that doesn't sound right. I'd like to find out who's coming in here. All right, I'm gonna be in Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, and that'll be coming up on the 19th. That's coming up this Thursday,

and that'll be through Saturday, two shows. That'll be six o'clock, eight o'clock, Drew. Go to Amcro.com for all the live. By the way, I can't read the rest of my plugs because the entire screen is taken up by Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas. But we could make, we gotta make our own screen that just says 19th through the 21st

and then I could tell you where else I was gonna be but I can't, because the entire screen is filled up with Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Las Vegas, but that's cut and paste. I would argue we could type our own screen in. But okay. There it is.

Irvine, hey! That's coming up July 10th, and then Covina as well. So now it just says Kimmel's 19th through 21 Vegas. All right Drew, what do you got? I'm gonna make it easy. Dr. Drew.com, Dr. Drew.tv. So, till next time, Adam Kroll for Dr. Usain.

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