The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2027 - Carmunication with Tom Schwartz

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

On this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, reality TV star Tom Schwartz joins Adam and Dr. Drew in the studio! They reminisce about meeting backstage at a Foo Fighters concert before diving into Adam’s gripes with classic rock bands like The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac, and why society desperately needs more structure and discipline. Dr. Drew discusses how young women are more susceptible to ideological influence in college, while Adam reflects on teaching his son how to function in the real world. The trio tackles topics like the downfall of the food pyramid, the harm of the self-esteem movement, and society’s overindulgence in things like bacon and adult content. They also share hilarious memories of stumbling upon old-school porn in the woods and debate obscure drink orders like martinis on the rocks.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. No choice. I'm going to get on. Well, the show, something's audio weird. We can fix that, Andrew. Dr. Drew's over there, board certified physician, Dixon Medicine Specialist. Yeah, buddy. Tom Schwartz here. You know, I'm proud. Probably from Vanderpump rules, but he does other things as well. Got a new podcast out, detox, retox.

It's on podcast one. And good to see it, Tom. It's good to see it. I was actually doing a little sleuthing before I came in here because I have a picture of us together. And I cannot figure out the origin story. I think it just hit me while I was sitting on my car. I'm going to show it to you right now.

Is that cool? Yeah. Okay. It's from 2015. And I'm like, where could me you Fergie, Katie, my ex-wife, and Kristen Doty possibly be together, and I think I figured it out. Do you reckon?

All right, let's see. I'm going to say, all right, I'm wearing a lanyard. Which I'll wear, just as sort of a fashion statement anyway. I think we're backstage. I think you nailed it, because you know what gave it away? I have a beer in my hand. We look really happy. I think we were backstage at the foo fighters.

Yes, yes. I was devastated. by that concert because the the Food Fighters were bringing up guests, celebrity people

to sit in with them and as many bands do, you know, which is kind of nice. I mean, I wish as a performer I could just bring out three comedians and then like sit down

and you guys, we'll do your jokes for a while. But it's great. It's a dream come true for you. you well i mean it's the beauty of a musician you know um so it was it's always like well who's gonna come out you know and then you start thinking about maybe john popper from blues traveler come out and do a blues traveler do run around or something that would be awesome but we get stevie nicks of the there's no band more fucked out than fleetwood mac i don't need the eagles

Fleetwood Mac and red hot chili peppers. I never want to hear another fucking song from one of those bands ever. Everything's mediocre and we get the beach over the head with it. And then she comes out and she does Gold Dust Woman, which is the bummerest, lowiest, shittiest. It's a shit song. I don't know why we anoint it. And she's so out of it. She comes out and she comes out on stage. She's sort of addled. And she comes out on stage and she hands the lead guitarist. from the food food fighters, her sunglasses and goes, hold these. Like, he's a valet. Like, she did, like she's handing the keys to valet except for he's on stage and he's the lead guitar player.

She loaded again? I don't know what she is. And then she gets up there and sings Gold Dust Woman, which is a fucking shitty dirge. It's super slow. All right. Anyway, I still had my rose color lenses on. The show was just kind of blowing up. We were kind of getting some notoriety.

So, yeah, I have fond memories, and I got to meet you. I kind of feel like I grew up with you guys, although I'm no spring chicken. But it was a nice moment. I remember drinking a little bit of Yeager backstage with Dave Grohl, and I thought that was one of my peak moments there. So I met Tom on his podcast with Tom. Uh-huh. Tom Zandoval. Yes.

And it was in the peak of the Sandoval catastrophe, a scandal, whatever. And you were a stabilizing forest room, I thought. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice to meet you under a calmer. circumstances. Yeah. We were at the tail end of that. You know, it was weird, even just I don't give a shit anymore. I'm getting I guess old. But at that time, it was like, how dare you go on that podcast? How dare you talk

to Tom Sandoval? I was like, you're an enabler. How do you platform? Remember that? A lot of platforming. Yeah. It's like, oh, for Christ's sake. Oh, I had a conversation with somebody that's what's illegal in America now as we're saying? Fuck you. I don't know. How much of this is chick driven and then how much of it is chick driven were guys sort of get out of the way. See, my thing about our ailing society is sort of guys getting out of the way. Like, I was, listen, listen to me. Women are going to do what women are going to do, and everybody's going to do what everyone's going to do. I mean, all God's creatures are going to do cats and dogs, you know, the zoo, everything's going to do. All the animals in the zoo are going to do,

but they need sort of be contained. You know what I mean? You can't just go. So it's like the baboons and the tigers and the ostrich just let them run wild. You know what I mean? It's like shit's going to happen. Yeah. We need some supervision here. It's, you know, it's basically like defund the police. No, no, no, no, no.

We need structure or shit gets out of hand real fast, right? Yeah. So guys used to step in and go, hey, that's enough. No more. They don't do it anymore because they're scared and we beat them down. We beat the shit out of them. So they can't say anything. Like, I'm at a, I'm at a comedy show, I'm doing a show in Florida, I don't know, two months ago.

I can't remember if I told her not, but there's a chick sitting against the, the fucked up ones are always against the front of the stage. You know, she's just against the front. She's, I got her arm on the stage. This chick is fucked up and she's talking all through the thing, and she's loud. And I, I'm telling her to be quiet. I'm trying to do my set, and she's just talking and talking. and I say to her husband, you know, kind of middle-aged dude, I go, hey, tell your wife to reel it in. And he goes, not my job, not my job.

I go, yeah, no, it is your job. It is your job. And he goes, not my job. I go, listen, I'm not telling you to backhand her. I'm just saying she's drunk. She's ruining the show. She's sitting across. We should tell her to fucking bring it down.

You're her husband. And I just said, look, it doesn't. I'm not saying in an offensive way. I have a girlfriend. She tells me what to wear. She lays stuff out and goes, wear this. Here's what you do. I don't take offense to it.

She's basically looking out for me. That's fine. That's a role. That's fine. Now tell your wife to bring it in. Tell that she's drunk and she didn't. I'll pick out my own clothes, bro. I'm like, all right, it's your fault.

You're the fucking sober guy here who won't tell this drunk bitch to shut up because you're scared because we've crafted a society. where you don't get a vote or you're going to be a fucking ogre. So it's not their fault. It's our fault. The keepers of the zoo. We left the zoo. It's your fault too, Drew.

You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, guilty. A guilty. Yeah, guilty. Absolutely. But I think it even got worse so, and I was not guilty of this, is that women, you know, more of them going to college than men, they dug in deep with the brainwashing and the ideology from college campuses.

Yes. And men, in order to have their way with. women had to sort of co-operate, not cooperate, but actually cosign. Oh, yeah, oh, yes, how you're so right. And I saw, I remember I commented on it like eight years ago. I saw it happening. I thought, I know what those guys are doing. And usually, think about it, it's usually actually young men that put a stop to things.

Yeah. Because they have the aggression and stuff. The older guys will kind of, like, whatever. Tom, what's your take? Well, did the husband intervene? No. For me, if you respect and love someone, you're doing them a favor by intervening this. Well, this is another.

There's another bridge across here, you know, because I've had arguments with women where I said, you know, when my son was, I don't know, 16, 17, I said, let him work at the McDonald's. It's up the street. I worked at McDonald's. You learn how to work. Let him learn how to work. Are you kidding? You're not going to have your son. You're rich. What do you see? He doesn't need to be going. I'm not trying to torture him. I'm not trying to torture him. I'm trying to teach him about work. Like I was taught to work. And it served me very. Very. well throughout my adult life. So what is this thing where you can't coach anybody up? You know, I got in a big argument my ex-wife once. I was trying to explain to my son the proper way to do a push-up. You know, his hands were too wide, then there were two clothes. And I was sort of, you know, I put little tape on the ground. I said, put your hands.

And like at some point, it was about nine or something. I said, hey, listen to me. Put your hands. And my wife's like, what are you doing? I'm trying to fucking not turn him into a fucking invalid. I want him to be able to navigate life. When did authority become a bad thing? When did discipline become a bad thing?

It's your generation, Tom. I swear to God. Jesus Christ. I'm 42. I don't think I'm responsible, right? You're on the margin. If you're 43 or 41, you would be. But you're so lucky you snuck right in

in that sweet spot of 42. Drew's going to call off the dogs. No, look, whether it's cops, whether it's school teachers, whether it's principals, you know, disciplining kids, whatever it is. Discipline is not, first up, it's not everything's a hate crime. There's plenty of discipline, which is for the person. That's why I had my kids doing football early. Yeah, it's coaches, sometimes it's cops, it's discipline, it's consequences, what the fuck? Where did that go?

I will never forget this football coach Grab my... I've been my kids. One of the kids by the face pants goes, son, I'm trying to help you. Right. Screaming at him. Yeah.

And it's perfect. That's what he's trying to do. Yeah, my coach kicked my ass a few times for sure. Oh, yeah. He toughened me up real quick. Do you play football? I played football, baseball,

I was quarterback pitcher. And then what did you do before Vanderpump? Before Vanderpump. I went to Florida State University and I was an exercise physiology major. And I worked after college, I worked for a distributor, wine and spirits in Jacksonville

and then like so many before me packed up my bags in my 2003 Honda Civic and headed west So Tom, I would have predicted Tom played football and had a job That was my sense of Tom Based on Based on him not being

captured by being on reality TV You know what I mean? I don't feel like you're captured by it I've worked many shitty jobs They build character It's important I can tell the difference between somebody who's been in media their whole life, and not work in the world. And people that, when they get to me, they're like, this is fun, I'll do this, it's good.

If it's long as I can, then I'll go back to the shitty jobs. And I drove shitty cars. They also, did you, your car, wait, how old are your kids? They're 19. Twins. They were not allowed to have shitty cars. No, so they don't have, Sonny doesn't have a car. Oh, good, okay, good.

It doesn't want one. Interesting. That's another problem. What was your first car? I drove my dad's, what at the time, was a 57 Thunderbird, No one thought was a cool thing. Everyone thought it was horrible. Like, oh, my God, torture. No, I'll think you had, Nate.

What year was that? 57. But when I was doing that, 74? It's only 74? Yeah. I don't know. You hadn't out because a few short years later show, starring Robert Yerick would come out called Vegas.

Yeah. And he drove a Thunderbird. Yes. And I think it was the same year. No, it became cool very quickly. Yeah. Very quickly. But it was at the time.

No, don't get. Listen, everybody, don't give us revisionist. This is the super model going, I was so awkward. Oh, no, I remember people would give me shit about it in high school. I really do. Well, everyone gives everyone shit for everything. And yes, there was, you know. And by the way, it was not kept up.

A vintage and nostalgia is not, you know, wasn't always cool. But that's still a far cry better than, you know, Toyota Corona wagon or something. That's your grandma died and left in. Weird character to it. Yeah. Yeah, what was your first car? I had the 87 Accord, Sedan, and I was happy to have it. I mean, it was a shitbanger, had over 100,000 miles on it, but I was so eternally grateful.

It might as well have been a Rolls-Royce to me. Maybe it's gratitude that is the deciding difference between people who had a job and people that have not worked on the world. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, look, there's a kind of a window where you need to work. And I think a man, a male especially. needs to work, a kind of a 16 to 24 window where you just have to fuck and have a job. It's nothing special.

It's not a career. You got some foreman or some boss or some managers, a little bit of a dick, and you get treated a little bit unfairly, and you work real hard and you don't really get paid that much and you're not really built up or appreciated, but you really set your foundation for work. And I'm telling you, Drew, the insidious thing is the self-esteem movement. It's fucking everybody up. The statistic I heard the other day is the group with the highest self-esteem are black females. And those are the ones throwing the most punches at the most airports, you know.

So there's something, there is, look, you know what we did with the, I'll tell you what we did with the self-esteem movement. We did the same fucking thing we did with the food pyramid at the same time. we decided this we got it all fucking wrong and we followed it off the edge of a cliff you understand the self-esteem movement is every bit as healthy as the food pyramid was you need 14 servings of whole grain and rice and bread and then a cube of beef once a month at the bottom you're inverted and you did the same fucking thing look with the self-esteem movement let's tell every kid they're the best they shouldn't answer to anybody and i don't care if they've a achieved anything, just everyone get up on the podium. You fucked them up. There's a meta concern above that, which is centralizing the authority of mental health care and health care. You put that in a central authority, they fuck it up every time. Right. Every time. All right. So we fucked up the food pyramid and we fucked up the self-esteem movement. And now we got a bunch of fat kids who feel real good about themselves for no apparent reason. And those kids

are going to go into society and there's going to be trouble. That's all. They're not going to be the little soldiers we were at our jobs. Yeah, no, I've worked plenty of shitty jobs. And like I said, they built character. I feel like they brought up the best in me. And by the way, back in the day, I feel like there wasn't the sense of shame there is now flipping burgers at McDonald's.

You might become a meme. And all of a sudden, all your friends are laughing at you. And I think just being chronically online. That's kind of interesting in it of itself, that there's some sort of disdain for work. That's not good. Well, there's... Elites have disdain for everything.

Yes, they have disdain for everything. They, well, okay. That's not them. Everything is not them. They disdain it. But you have to look at it this way, which is elites look at people that work with disdain because they work for them. And so who's going to clean your toilet?

Who's going to bust your dishes? Who's going to make up your hotel room? Like who? Who's going to do it? The dumb, poor. Mexican, the suckers, who's, who's hotel, my hotel, my toilet, my food, who's going to bring me my, it's essentially, it's not a whole lot different relationship than it would be with a servant.

What's the difference between a servant? Well, servant brings you your food and cleans your toilet and makes up your bed. Okay, picks your vegetables and does all the work you don't want to do. Right. Okay, well, that's what these people do. And so why, why look at them is equal? Right. And so there is a disdain. And there's a, I went to college, which is a big, that's a huge problem. And the narcissism of needing to virtue signal, I'm better, I'm better, I'm better than everybody. Better than you.

Yes. Yes. The grandma, too much. She invented that. My grandmother. Virtue signaling. I think she was the first. Yeah, I mean, she was a narcissist, but she also had to build up a apparatus, a scaffold. of sort of achievement that didn't really exist. Right. You know, because you're sort of like,

you know these guys like, I remember one, I have a distant memory of, I somehow was with my dad as an adult. And I went to, I said, Dad, I got to go, there's this place,

he was just came over for lunch or something. And I said, Dad, I was putting my house together up on the hill and there was some place some junkyard full of old antiques and like you know to south central downtown LA or something's a bad neighborhood but they had tons of like wall sconces and old fixtures and 20s and I needed I remember that so I there's a bunch I did a bunch of that but anyway I said to my dad I said well just jump in the car I'm going down there and you can even wait in the car I'm just going to go look at some wall sconces or whatever and we just came along for the ride and then

And on the way home, we, I stopped at a gas station, but in kind of a tough neighborhood to fill up. And I was driving a, you know, sports car or something. I can't remember which one. But anyway, old black guy pulls up in a, like a beat to shit, old's cutlass. Like, I mean, a car that's worth $900, right? And he gets out of the car and he's probably got like a fake stud earring in, you know, diamond earring was made out of plastic, you know, and he comes.

around he's like hey man that's a nice car and I'm like oh thanks he goes I'm a Cadillac man myself and I'm like you're driving a cutlass with Bondo on the roof you know what I mean like and he's he goes to this whole story about him being a catty guy El Dorado and I'm and I'm so I'm thinking the whole time like who are you fooling like who are you fooling with this thing you know what I mean but my grandmother had the clamp on earrings and the smoke the colorful cigarettes and had the who taught at UCLA, you know, she's a professor. And I realize it's just a scaffolding. You build around yourself.

Now, if you have a business or you have a couple degrees hanging from the wall or a couple of trophies in the trophy case or a couple of books or a couple of titles, well, then you don't really need the facade. The scaffolding. The scaffolding, right? So, Tom, you still here? Oh, by the way, you guys, I'm just happy to be here. I'm kind of bathing in a stall job.

Right now I feel like I'm being transported back to like 1996. That's about right. Love Lines on. I'm chilling. I don't know anything going on in the world. And it just knows that everything we discussed on Love Line, we did not intend it to contribute to where we are today. We did not intend this at all. I told you everything that was happening when it was happening and then you would argue with me.

Well, I'm talking. You wanted us to have a more feminine society. Yes, I did. Guilty. A hundred percent. idea, and now here we are. You can continue to make me apologize for that. I shall, I shall. Yeah.

That's my move. I apologize. But I was, I'm more talking about sort of, we were pushing back on the, the sort of, the uptight people that you would see on Love Boat with the cotton candy hair and the dudes with the, the horn room glasses and the white shirts and the skinny ties. You know, they didn't have anything to offer us. We were sort of pushing back trying to get a new reality together. where people could have sex and people could have relationships and we did not intend the current situation at all.

No, no, no, no. I mean, it was groundbreaking at the time. Now it's like we're desensitized. Like, by the time you're 10, 11 years old, you've seen two girls one cup. And more. You know. Yeah.

Yeah, you know, I'm trying to work a joke out, but I really mean it that I never thought these, like if you got hold of me when I was 15, you never thought I would say these words, which is I think we've got we don't need any more porn and I don't really I want it I don't want bacon I'm tired of bacon those are the two like you would have built a time machine I got all the 15 you all that I'm like bacon bacon bacon it was a once a year type thing it wasn't ground up

and thrown into every salad onto every potato and wrapped on everything literally I have to tell people like, you want bacon on that? I go, I don't want any more bacon. I don't want it on the ice cream. It's bacon. I'm saying we have enough. We don't need to manufacture. Do we need to make more porn? We're good with, the two million hours that we already have, do we need to come out with new porn? If the amount of porn that's available on the internet now was available in that airplane hanger of porn that used to go visit back in the valley the odyssey the odyssey yeah that would be 18 hangers or something and that was as big as it got back then right oh no i mean you're talking about the odyssey which is yeah like a blimp hanger worth of video movies but the but had a porn

section in the back oh i thought it was all a porn thing that we've got to see north hollywood yeah i live i just moved right next to that place oh really yeah they what's wrong with you i could never What happened? I couldn't figure that place out because it had like a big sign. I could go, we have the Kardashian tape, you know? And I'd be like, I thought there was a bootleg tape that was illegally stolen. I know. Everyone looks at me so naive.

You know what I mean? But all right. But that place, no, Drew, that place had a porn section in the back. I understand. Which probably comprised of 150 titles. Wow. All of that, a thousand those could fit into one thumb drive now, right? And I even know computers, but you have, it's not 15 of those and it's not 150 of those.

It's two million of those, right? That's enough. It's enough. And it's enough with the bacon. I'm going back to the waterlogged playboy in the woods. Yes. Oh, that was our generation. Me too.

That's why I saw my first playboy. Yeah, Woods Woods is a weird Back East thing. Yeah, yeah. Because here here we would find stuff in dumpsters and stuff. We used to do a lot of dumpster diving

and find a lot of stuff. Usually the Ivy back in the day. Yeah, Ivy was our woods. Yeah. Yeah, I found stuff. Well, the way you would find stuff here in the, there was Ivy everywhere. Which doesn't really exist

because you had to water it so much. There's really so much anymore. I don't know. There was ivy everywhere. And so what would happen inevitably is baseballs would get lost in the ivy. And then you'd have to go thrash through the ivy. And when you thrash through the ivy, occasionally you would find a bat or playboy or find stuff in the ivy. That's a piece of history right there.

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We do a few stuff. Everything, everything, everything, everything, there was a whole ritual around cars. And I also have a thought that we are less. social because of the efficiency of the modern car, which is, I, first of all, cars used to break down. So people would hitchhite, overheat. Ooh, remember that? That's even further back.

No, no. Well, they'd break down. They would overheat, they would break down. They would break down a myriad of ways. Yeah. And then you'd have to hitchhike. And then someone would pick you up and you'd start a conversation, inevitably have a conversation. people have to bumpstart their car

people's cars would break down in the lane and people you'd have to... Do you know what it means by bumpstarring? I mean, I used to... I feel like people don't even care jump or don't even carry jumper cables. Bumstart is a term that I've heard in a long time. What's a bump start? You drop it in gear once you get rolling.

With a manual transmission. That's an old school reference. Yes, it is. Those don't exist. I jumped out of a million cars to help someone push their car. Yeah, me too. out of the intersection. Or to help bumpstart.

They're on a hill and you're going, okay, just run down here. We'll be right. No, they're not on a hill because if they're on a hill, you don't need to push them. I mean, you get them to the hill kind of thing. I've done that before. They're near a hill and you just go. Yeah, I wouldn't work the hill into the help push. The push is because there's no hill.

Yeah, all right. And if you see them pushing, you're more inclined to help, right? If they're just standing there, you're like, eh. Yeah, listen, I've, a million times jumper cables, try it now. You know what I mean? Like, they're at, the windows were all. down. You pulled a stop sign, stoplight. A guy would be hanging his handouts with a cigarette. You'd come pulling, hey, bro. You know what I mean? They're like 18 inches away from the guy.

And both your windows were down because it's fucking summer and no one had air conditioning in their cars, right? There was a lot more car communication. Ooh, who back then. Oh, yeah. And it was, you were kind of forced to strike up like, again, when you were trying to push your car and some guy jumped out and started pushing, you'd like go, you give him a nod. How was that for women, though? Did that, were they harassed more that way, I imagine. I don't know. Also, guys doing, there were no, now everyone's got a camera and a backup thing.

Guys used to do a lot of guiding you out. You got it. You got it. Bring it out. Like, if you saw a guy pulling out of the driveway in a van or something and you were walking your dog, you just stop. And you'd immediately become a traffic cop, right? So it was a lot more sort of communally. rubbing up against each other.

Car communication. And now it's a lot of windows up, satellite radio, air, and fuck you, from inside the car. You know what I mean? I think I'm part of the problem. I got like a 2016 Mercedes C-class. Dark windows. My friends always roast me. They're like, it's the type of car, a Vegas bottle service girl would drive.

And I feel like I just, I don't know, I'm feeling like my hands are a little too soft lately. Are you still more attending at Tom Tom Tom? Well, I'm a partial owner. But I mean, do you go in there. Now that I don't have to do it for a living, I ironically love bartending. Interesting. I love it. What percentage of, Drew, give me one of your pens, please.

What percentage? Brought it for you. Oh, thanks. What percentage of, we'll finish the job then. What percentage of martinis are on the... That was thank you. As close to thank you as you ever did. Are on the rocks.

Because I've had some weird conversations where it's like, first off, I don't know why. Why is this everyone's defense? default setting. I'll explain to both you. You go to a bar. This happened to me a couple of times. It's rare, but a couple of times. And I'll go, I'll have a martini. And they go, you want that on the rocks?

And I go, no, just regular martini. Is on the rocks? Is it popular? Yeah, a lot of people get it on the rocks. It's a chick thing. And I go, when people order a martini, they're not asking for rocks and a tumbler. And then they go,

they always do this. They go, A lot of people do. A lot of, they have to make their point. But it's like, when you say a lot of people, you mean if 20 people came in here and ordered a martini, half of one would want one on the rocks? Like, what do you mean a lot of people? You're not, no, it's not a lot of people. I know you're trying to make your point, but it's pretty rare.

I don't know what it is. I love the aesthetic, the James Bond aesthetic of a martini glass in your hand. But I like the practicality of a martini glass in your hand. But I like the practicality of a. nice dirty martini on the rocks how many how often do people order it I've never heard of it in my life I've worked my first job was in TGA Fridays in Woodbury

Minnesota I've never in my life had anyone ask for a martini on the rocks okay this is the point when the waitress says to me I go I'll have a martini on the rocks well that's an assumption that's yeah I'm gonna go yeah on the rocks actually confusing martini with another drinking this is my whole

this is my whole point is and it's but it's shaking or stirred it's part and parcel of the bigger picture which is take it's it's I'm telling you it's it's sort of that same thing where you go look the black community needs to stay intact and raise your children I know a black kid grew up with a single mom and five brothers it's a Harvard professor right now okay all right thank you anyway I know you're just arguing you're just fucking arguing like they go on the rocks, and I go, no, just regular martini. And they go, and I go, but how, is that popular?

Yeah, a lot, a lot of people. No, not a lot. Like, a lot of people translated is almost never, right? Which you can say, but you won't, and you got to dig in on it. And I'm just saying, you guys don't think, you think we're talking about martinis. I'm talking about life. They bring this whole mindset into every thing. And at some point, it starts affecting policy.

That's what I'm Your martini mine is fucking up our society Some guys do it as like an overcompensating thing They think it's not manly or masculine To have a martini glass in your hand Some of the new age So they'll get This is in the confines of my friend group

They like the way it feels in their hand It's more masculine So the bar is owned with you and Sandoval and Lisa Is you serve food? Yeah, yeah Have you guys been? No, I want to go So I'm asked where is it?

It's rare. Okay, you know where the abbey is, right? Yep. It's a rate a little bit east of the abbey, right on Santa Monica Boulevard. Where the pump was? Yeah, yeah. Exactly where a pump was? Well, pump closed down.

They didn't renew their lease. It was open for 10 years, which is a hell of a run in L.A. By the way, I'm sure you guys have seen it. I feel like the bar and restaurant industry as a whole is just getting decimated. Every time I open Instagram or the news or whatever, there's a new bar closing. Coals just closed. Is that because people aren't drinking or are they out socializing? I mean, the cost of commercial real estate is that.

insane rents skyrocketing. Makes sense. It's brutal. Like I said, I'm a minority stakeholder in TomTom, but we opened Schwartz and Sandy's in Franklin Village. You guys know Franklin Village? No. And, uh, in Hollywood.

And, um, it was a nightmare. Off of Franklin? Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's a great little neighborhood up in there. So is this in, in Pumps building, that building where Pump was? No, no. It's just down a little bit east of there.

Yeah. Um, have, you've been to pump before, right? Many, I used to. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, her. But her Lisa's husband was telling me, he brought those olive trees in.

He told me the whole story about that. Are they still there? They took them out. They took them out, which is a tragedy. I mean, L.A.'s got to be a horrible town to try to run a business. Especially your first one. No, employees and everything. Your first one coming out of COVID, you know.

The sophomore effort, I had no idea what I was getting to. It chewed me up and spit me out. But it gave me more grit. I'm a little grittier. I got a little more hoodspaw. Yeah, you're dirty martini And then you're on the valley now, right? I dabble on the valley, yeah.

Is Jason Waller? That's the one he's on? I don't know. Okay. Yeah, no. I get confused these rallies shows. I think you're thinking of Jackson. I think he just sat down with you recently.

Yes. Oh, yes. He's been, yeah, struggling. Quite impressive. Go and do some stuff. All right. The plug is the podcast, detox, retox, podcast one, or wherever you find a finer podcast

in the bar of Tom Time we just spoke about. I'm going to be Thursday in Portland, Helium, doing a couple of shows there. You can go to Amcrawl.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Drew? Doctor.com, Ask Dr. Drew on Rumble and YouTube. Check it out. So, until next time, Adam Crolla, for Tom Schwartz

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