The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2038 - Competitive Eater James Webb
Episode Date: September 22, 2025On this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, competitive eater James Webb calls in! They discuss the world of competitive eating, and James reveals how he trains his body to consume massive... quantities of food. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.
You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show.
Yeah, get it on.
James Webb all the way from Australia is our guest.
He's got a dock out called James Can Eat.
It's available now on Amazon.
on Prime. He's
Australia's number one competitive eater
ranked number four
in the major league eating
and currently holds seven world
records. MLE. Yeah,
it's grown quite a bit.
Good to see you, James.
Hey guys, how are you? Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
Can we
let me make this analogy.
The UFC
20 years ago was a tough man
competition where big
dudes just sort of got in a bar fight.
but it wasn't really a sport.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And competitive eating competition was just fat guys drinking and chugging wings and stuff.
Or little Asian guys throwing a hot dogs down there with water.
No, no, but that was the beginning of.
Oh, sorry.
Anyway, it was fat guys sitting there eating.
At some point, it became fit guys eating.
Not fat guys, fit guy.
I mean, like the UFC.
It's not a bunch of big fat, barrel-chested guys.
duking it out anymore it's you're going back to way back to like pie eating competitions at the
fair in the 20s yeah i mean i mean people if you made a movie with a with a eating competition
you would cast fat people yeah yeah now it's fit yeah people it's turned into a sport is that
correct very much correct wow how does how does one your story in particular get into a sport like
that. You come to America, man. You Americans, you guys are crazy. It's the best fun and you guys very much
turn everything into a spin. That's interesting. It's interesting because we're so competitive
that we have to turn everything into a sport. Well, actually, I mean, every second commercials for
gambling now all day Sunday on football. Like, it's just gamble, gamble, everything is just
gamble. I wonder. So, you
are a big kid when you're
a kid, right? Are you a fat kid when you're young?
Yeah, I was fat until
I was about 16 years old.
And how did you change that?
I obviously I was really good at soccer.
So my soccer coach pretty much said,
you're too fat. I'm not going to play you in my team.
But my club had a gym, so I got into the gym.
And then from there, it kind of just snowballed.
And when did you realize you could eat like you could?
So look, I've always loved to eat.
Having an ethnic mother that was a magic chef, obviously being a fat kid, always loved my eating.
But to be honest, when I was like, you know, early 30s, you know, like when I was into bodybuilding and you go out for a cheat meal or whatever, and I'd have a couple of burgers and like it wouldn't really touch the sides.
So when I did my first ever food challenge, it wasn't actually a shock to me that I could put down copious amounts of food pretty quickly.
So do you think this is kind of interesting thought I just had.
is there in any way that this kind of over-the-top binging helps you sort of somehow satiate in such
way that you can control your appetite the rest of the time yeah well look obviously when you're
eating like a maniac you eat like once a day or like once every second day so you know i do a food
challenge for example i don't eat for the rest of that day sometimes not until the next day
so i guess it's like anything it's like you know you're going to eat like a maniac it be sensible
You don't need to eat breakfast.
You don't need to have dinner that night.
You probably don't eat breakfast the next day.
I kind of just, you know, listen to my body and get on with it.
How often are you doing a challenge?
So when I'm traveling, I do like maybe one a day for like a week or so.
And then I take a break.
So it just depends what I have on with my schedule.
Obviously during contest season, I'm doing a lot of traveling.
You know, this actual month, I've been in a new city every four days.
So it's been pretty full on.
So the days I'm not filming, I kind of just don't eat.
And is it sponsored?
Is that where the income comes from?
Yes, obviously I do a lot of like brand work, grand deals, and then obviously
restaurant appearances and I make promotional videos.
Restaurant appearances, that's phenomenal.
Very lucky.
I've got a few sponsors and endorsement deals too.
That's interesting.
And one, my last question here, but you've turned back to Adam.
You said you came here and it occurred to you.
You have to tell me a little more because I live here and it doesn't occur to me.
I love this place, honestly.
So when I came to America, I have to do my first.
eating contest i realized you guys treat this like a sport um you know we're on tv there was sponsors
there was prize money there's rankings like you guys very much turn it into a sport and like any sport
you can train uh trained to be better trained to be the best and me being competitive i'm like
i want to be that Aussie to like stick it to the man in america and like see how it goes because
no other Aussies ever done this before that's the truth right i'm the first Aussie to compete with the major
with the Major League eating.
There's something about the Pacific Rim that does tend to produce some eaters.
Well, I mean, is Joey Chestnut still the king as we speak or is there any other names in there?
Kobayashi is gone.
And how the fuck do you know the name of Joy Chestnut?
Joey Chestnut, because I'm an American, you ask why.
I know.
I've heard his name before.
I've heard the Kobayashi guy or whatever his name is.
Joey, okay, Joey, we got to find this.
Maybe I can find this.
Hold on one second, James.
I'll ask Andrew.
Joe Coy, the comedian, long before anyone had heard his name, would come on my morning radio show when Joey Chestnut was on and attack him as Kobayashi.
And it was super funny.
And Joe Coy was so unknown that we didn't even say that's Joe Coy.
It was just this guy does a funny Kobeashi.
voice. Yeah, yeah. And then he would make fun of Joey Chestnut. Yeah, and now, you know, he's filling
arenas. But the point is, is Joey Chestnut used to come on. Sorry, Joey's still the guy. Is he still
the goat? Does he fit? Is he fit? Is he, like, visibly fit? He is. I would say Joey Chestnut,
if you caught him at the beginning of his career, just looked like kind of a doughy, big guy.
and now he's a fit guy.
Isn't that crazy?
It's counterintuitive
to see fit people
winning, eating competition.
What is the training you do?
Yes, obviously there's a few aspects.
Obviously, you got to physical.
A lot of us come from a sporting background.
I like to hit the gym.
A lot of us actually like to hit the gym.
We have an ex-fellage basketball player,
pro bodybuilders, swimmers.
We have a lot of athletes, I guess.
That's where their mentality comes from, I guess.
When you're good at, you know, sports, you're kind of, you're wide a little bit differently and you like to push boundaries, right?
So there's the physical aspect.
Obviously, you've got to be fit for what we do, but also then you've got to train your body.
You know, whether it's jaw training, breath work, stretching the stomach.
We all do it and we all trying to.
Breaching the stomach.
Yeah.
What is that?
Well, it's like anything, right?
Like, you know, it's like progressive overload.
It's like when you go to the gym, you bet you bench 100 pounds.
Next month you want to bench 110 pounds, a month after that, 120 pounds.
So, like, for example, you start off eating five pounds of food, you try and eat more, six pounds of food, seven pounds of food, eight pounds of food, and gradually your stomach is just stretching over time and you can eat more over time.
Are there any other, like, secret techniques you've put in an inflatable device or something, or is there any weird, you know?
Yeah, look, some of us use fluid. Some of us use water and fluid. Some of us just use food. It just depends. Like, you know, for example, a good combination is a watermelon and some diet soda. It works wonders.
And I'm guessing vomiting doesn't bother you.
That's something you have to.
Oh, hold on a second.
We're trying to find this.
You tell me, Andrew, if you, you vet it first, but when you find Kobayashi, who is Joe
Koi doing Kobay?
Right, right.
Okay.
Vomiting?
And, yes, vomiting.
Sorry.
So that's definitely disqualification.
You're not allowed to do that on stage.
No, I understand, but I'm guessing in training there's a bit of vomiting.
So yeah, that's the thing, right?
You've got to kind of find your boundary.
So you know what I'm going to kind of take the foot off the gas.
Look, I'm not going to lie.
It's not pretty, but it's inevitable.
It's going to happen.
That's what I'm saying.
It's all about controlling yourself.
And I guess, you know, it's like anything, right?
Like a boxer, they're going to get punch in the face.
It's a part of the game, right?
So what I'm tilting at, what I'm suggesting is, you know,
probably you have to get to vomiting a few times to know where the boundary is.
And then now you've got that boundary and you're going to push it back to the next time you vomit.
But that's a good way to put it.
Yeah.
What is your ethnicity, and you said your mom was a cook, and she was, what would she cook?
So my mother's Croatian, a lot of Eastern European cuisine.
Some of my favorite dishes, we have a dish called capoose.
It's like sauteed onions and saucrout with some pork.
One of my favorite dishes ever.
We have like little sausages called chavopis, you know, all this kind of like charcoal meat and stuff.
absolutely delicious and probably why I was such a chubby kid listen I got my step-grandfather cooked hungarian food
and I loved it yeah and you brought up sauerkraut it's like in L.A., sauerkraut just doesn't exist.
Yeah.
There's nowhere you can find it.
Yeah.
You could go to a deli maybe and find some, but you cannot go to a restaurant and get this sort of
potatoes and kraut and sausage and all that stuff.
And it's so good and it's so weird that L.A. is.
just to void
100% of those.
There's literally
from where I,
if you draw a five-mile circle around where I am,
you could find 27 sushi places
and 31 Indian places
and 14 kebab places
and there's zero German,
Hungarian, any of it.
I have to, when I travel,
whenever we go to Cleveland or Minnesota
or something, the first thing we do is goes,
where's the hot house with the brats and the stuff?
We want real food.
And we all love it and everyone loves it.
And every time I cook chicken paprakash for someone, I go,
here's what Hungarian food tastes.
I go, I love it.
Yeah.
Not one restaurant.
Yeah.
So sauerkraut very present in our household.
I have a Czech spouse.
Right.
I actually had sauerkraut on top of salmon last week.
Wow.
And it was fantastic.
Wow.
the Hollandea sauce.
Wow.
Fantastic.
Like beyond.
And the thing she's always championing is it's the gut microbiome is enhanced.
It's bold.
Sarah crowd is great.
It doesn't exist.
There's no restaurant you can order sourcrown at here.
I don't know what that is.
There was one place that served Hungarian food was called Laszlo's Hortabashi.
And I used to take all the riders from Kimmel's place and I'd take them there on a Friday night.
And they loved it.
They never had it.
for and it's like good news you don't have to have indian or sushi or steak joint you can have
that doesn't exist no you with me 100% you're onto a business idea i think yeah i have the
tape of uh joe coy as kobiashi digging into joey chestnut sorry oh oh kobiashi yeah yeah
i don't need a translator i'm from TMZ i don't even know that crazy i'm from TMZ
T.MZ.
TMZ.
You have a statement to say about Joey Chessna?
I have a statement to say about Joey Chesatat.
Joey Chesatat.
Joey Chesatat.
Chesot.
Chesaughta.
Chesa T.
Chesa T.
Nuttata.
Do you know how to speak English?
Well, yeah.
Joey.
Joey.
Joey.
Joey.
Chesa not do.
Chester not do.
Yeah.
so he he cheat yeah oh he's like your wife what yeah you say my wife's cheap yeah that's right
you fuck oh my god listen we're on TMZ by the way so we have to air this you son of a bitch so
you try to embarrass me all the time we know god damn well joe into the jessinat too
shit all the time with the hot dog well now during the color zone look i saw the
This is not from the radio.
I saw the present.
He take a cross.
Uh-huh.
Put in the battle.
He put eyes.
You're saying he did he.
All right.
Yeah, this is not from the radio show.
Well, from the radio show, he's talking to Joey Chestnut.
Okay.
This is him.
This is on the podcast.
This is him talking to me.
But it's him doing it.
But you don't, you miss the part where he's physically talking to Joey Chestnut.
You might be able to find.
that either way you get the idea oh yes so good he's funny wait a minute have you ever met
kobiashi i have yeah and i just want to say that sounds nothing like you well listen we get a
cultural pass because joe coi is asian right that's the way we roll so things you go is it
offensive uh well not if an asian guy does it but he's filipino so it doesn't matter we
lumped them all together, which is obviously the more racist part of the whole thing.
All right. James, where can we, I'm going to give you a plug before we say goodbye and take a
quick break. James Can Eat. It's available now on Amazon Prime. And where can people go if they
want to keep up with you, James? You can find me at Jay Webby Can Eat on any social media platform.
I'm going to spell that out. J-W-E-B-B-Y can-eat.com.
Thanks, James. Great to meet you, my friend.
Thanks, guys. Have a great afternoon.
All right. Quick break. Right back after this.
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Yeah, now I'm craving Hungarian food.
Sourkraut.
Now, like, immediately.
Here's what my grandfather used to make.
You ready?
He made a casserole.
And the casserole would have layers of sauerkraut, potato, and sausage, and then sauerkraut, potato, and just keep layering it.
until he got up to the top, and then he'd bake the whole thing in the oven.
They always put a cool sauce in there.
Is there some sort of...
He would do...
This was kind of a...
With the potato would be like a sour creamy kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
And like I said, the sausage, he'd cut up kibasa and lay it flat, you know?
And then he'd put a blanket of kraut over the top and then start another layer.
He'd bake that whole thing in the oven.
And it was so good.
And it's, here's what I want to say, Drew, I'm interested in, in life.
Everybody I have met and sort of forced Hungarian food upon them, they love it.
They love it.
Yeah.
So with that in mind, you know what I mean?
Like, why?
I mean, I feel like there's a lot.
Look, I love the band, the Jayhawks.
No one's ever heard of the Jayhawks.
No one is playing the radio.
Every time I play someone to Jayhawks, they love the Jayhawks.
Yeah.
So why not more Jayhawks?
You know what I'm going to? Why isn't the radio playing Jayhawks while I'm heading to the Hungarian food place up the street?
Yeah.
There is no Jayhawks and there's no Hungarian food.
But why?
It makes me wonder for the Hungarian food if the price of the ingredients and the manpower put into it is somehow different.
I don't, here's all I got.
All I got is nobody cooks sushi at home.
but the kind of dishes we're talking about are home-cooked dishes, you know what I mean?
And so I think people 10, those have Nana cooks that Hungarian recipe at home.
And you don't see casserole being produced anywhere.
No, but I mean, when-a-zania is sort of a casserole.
Yeah, we do chicken paparcage with the no-kettle dumplings and people go insane,
that go out of their brains for it.
And certainly it exists in other parts of the country.
Every single time we go to Minneapolis, we're going to Kramer Chucks.
You've got the recipe book on your table.
Me and Mike and Mike Lynch will make the pilgrimage.
Like we go, what time we go to Kramachaks?
You know, they're going to Kramar Chacks or whatever.
We'll walk there across the bridge, you know.
Like we'll cross the Mississippi.
We're going to be there at three.
We're going.
Yeah, yeah.
We're getting stuffed peppers and stuffed cabbage and sourcrow.
and no, like, we're going.
You know, I'm just thinking, it's amusing me,
that something you don't see in other foods is purple.
Right.
And you have lots of, Russian-Hungarians, purple.
Yeah, my grandfather never did the purple cabbage.
It was always the yellow style.
But, yeah, whenever we go anywhere in the Midwest,
first-order businesses plot out a German-Hungarian or whatever place to eat at.
Yeah, yeah.
And by the way, Mike August, Mike Lynch, whomever, Chris Locks him out, can't get enough.
No one ever goes, I'll take a pass, you guys go ahead, I got, I'm going to eat at the hotel or whatever.
They're got a nice sandwich here.
Uh-uh.
The people, like, chomping at the bit.
Yeah.
So, again, why wouldn't it work, you know?
Anyway.
All right, what else you're thinking about it?
So I feel like we should finish up with Charlie Kirk.
It's, you know, still very fresh for people.
and we've not talked about the killer or the people's response to the killing.
And there's always questions.
You know, people are asking me all kinds of opinions about it.
I will find out.
I'm a little, oh, first off, is he, is he got a transsexual boyfriend or not?
Like, he has a, the, the reporting I'm hearing is that he has a transsexual roommate who's male becoming female, although they keep calling him boyfriend.
I thought that was offensive.
And they were in a relationship.
Whether or not they're living together because they were in a relationship or not is not
disclosed.
Well, all right.
And let's just do this.
A few things to do, first off, when they go, like, we don't know what this guy's
affiliations or motivations.
I think we do.
I think he killed Charlie Kirk.
So that's his motivation.
He doesn't like that side.
He did not take a shot at Bill Mark.
He took a shot at Charlie Kirk.
Right.
So, and then they go, his family was religious.
His family was conservative.
Okay.
Let's look into my family.
Am I anything like my family?
No.
Do I dictate or discuss any of the doctrine of Chris Carolla or Jim Carolla?
Or I disagree vehemently with everything they stand for politically.
Yeah.
Mainly because they're fucking idiots.
But I disagree with my mom.
I disagree with my grandma and I disagree with my dad politically.
So how did they raise me?
Was it that who I am?
So it's very possible to be different than your family.
There are many crazy, lefty college chicks and dads are Republican conservative guys.
So it happens all the time.
There was another weird thing, too.
That's a weird argument.
There's a few things I want to ask you about.
one was when the shot happened there was all this you you can't say he's dead you can't say he's dead
there was this weird you can't say he's been killed and i i took one look at that and went look
there are there are catastrophic events and fatal events that was at least catastrophic to the extent
that you don't want to recover from it and you can say and why people say you can't say that is the
oddest thing in the world to me and then the the other thing is the other thing
is the odd glee around it.
And that people would think that they felt so at their liberty to express that they didn't
understand others might react to that.
They live in such a bubble that they did not appreciate.
See, that's the, that is the part, yes, that is the, I never met anyone, you know,
when Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, I don't believe it because I've never met a person
that would vote for Donald Trump.
Yeah, you and your little insular world of Blue State, you know, teachers, union friends, of course, Hollywood, whatever cocktail parties.
No, you've never met.
No, you haven't met.
They all assume everyone's going to celebrate, too.
They just admit that assumption.
That's the world they think they live in.
I've been kind of on this one for a long time where they don't hear themselves because they've operated with insane impunity for so long that they.
They don't have a sense of where they are.
It's, well, look, I've said a million times.
I've told you black, lesbian females don't apologize when they're the mayor or the governor or whatever, because they don't care.
They don't live in a world where there's no predators.
They don't have to fuck you.
You know, I told you.
You said that when the mayor of Chicago had her haircut.
Except for a long time, which is...
But Nancy Pelosi was the same thing, though.
She doesn't have any predators here, it seemed like.
Well, she's a female, helpful.
She's Democrat.
She's super rich.
And she's super old.
And she's so rich and old that she just gets annoyed.
You know what I mean?
Like, why you ask me this?
I've set up.
I need a haircut.
No, no.
She said she was set up.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
She at least covered, right.
Right.
No, she didn't.
The whole point is, is Gavin Newsom is a dude.
He got busted.
He had to apologize.
Nancy Pelosi's a chick.
She got busted.
She kind of went, I got set up.
She said something.
But what's her name?
London Breed just felt the vibes when Tony, Tony, Tony came to town.
And that's it.
Haircut.
No apologies.
Fuck you.
Right.
I care about what I look like.
You know, and that's how they roll.
So they get some sort of,
the mayor of Chicago is up there going,
look, I don't want any white people at my press conference.
You know what I mean?
Now, a white person would have to process that and go,
fuck, I can't.
I can't say I don't want any black people at my press conference.
I'll be it for my career.
I may think that.
I may be bigoted.
I may be racist.
I'm sure, fuck, not saying it into a microphone.
No way.
Is that good on camera?
I'll be ruined.
but she doesn't give a fuck and that so first off tons of women tons of women who i told you
or told you they're problems with impulse control they don't think they don't think they can
do anything you know what i mean like cop holding a gun at you and you go charging toward him flowing
your arms around like that's a serious issue yeah it gets you killed yeah um and canceled i'd say it's
about 70% women, I'd say that are gleefully.
That's true.
Now, the guys, listen, I know plenty of progressive guys that may be every bit as gleeful that
Charlie Kirk has been silenced.
But they're not filming themselves and throwing it out there because they're thinking
about their career.
They're making calculations.
They understand the world they live in a little bit.
A little bit better.
They don't just go impulsively grabbing a little bit.
phone filming it and hitting send yeah that's women that's a lot of women so this isn't an issue
and they're sort of happy with it uh you know that tape i sent you it's so funny uh andrew it was a
it was a tweet that i liked from like two days ago but i i sent it to drew because i was
yelling at drew because i was talking to j more about it oh and not about this not about this
But Jay Moore said to me, he goes, I just visited a guy in the hospital.
The guy was very broken up after a bad car accident, hips and bones and real bad shape after a car accident.
He said, the funny thing is, is the guy was holding a dog when he got in his horrible accident.
I was sitting on his lap or whatever.
The dog was like 14 years old that couldn't see, but the airbag killed the dog.
He said, all the women were broken up about the dog.
didn't care about the guy.
And I said, I know it's a fucking twisted, bizarre sort of compass that women have,
which is they're much more worried about the dog than they are about the person.
If you said to most women, there's a plane crash or 300 people died.
They go, and two dogs.
They'd go, oh, the humanity, you know what I mean?
And then you sent me a video of a woman.
Then I sent the woman on college campus, and she goes, I don't feel sorry for Charlie Kirk.
And I don't feel sorry for his wife.
she could feel sorry for his kids
she felt sorry for his dog
yes
what's up the dog doesn't know
what happened
and I'm sure that dog
will have a much better life
than my childhood
for sure has air conditioning
right
it's gonna get a place to sleep
it's gonna get fed regularly
yes kind of bed with a
we're too much
with a sheet on it
yeah so
and that was
again I sent it to Drew
it's a couple
it's a couple days old.
Did you text it to me?
I remember or was it email?
I texted it.
I texted it to you.
I can send it.
And it's a like tweet.
And it's a girl in the university of, uh, here it is.
And there, we have it?
Does it start with this one?
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah.
And it, and she doesn't care.
Where do I send it?
Uh, I think Andrew.
I think Andrew has it.
I don't know.
I don't know if I have Andrew's email.
Oh, okay.
Now this is, this is, why?
I don't get how life works, but no, this isn't it.
It's a, it's not the University of Amsterdam, sorry.
Andrew, you can give me your email or text or whatever.
I'm pretty sure I liked it, like I said, two days, two days ago.
Oh, Drew, just played a hold up to the phone.
All right.
That's fine.
They really need the first 30 seconds of it.
There we go.
Hold on a second.
Got to get it up.
I actually want to say something about this.
If you're going to spread hateful shit and you're going to incite, you're going to target marginalized groups of people, don't be all, oh my God, I've been shot.
I won't get shot because I don't do that.
I don't have to worry about that.
I don't feel bad for him.
I don't feel bad for his wife.
I feel bad for his daughter.
He did that to himself.
You want to talk about all this crazy shit.
Don't act crazy when other people are going to fucking come and shoot you.
So I have just one...
Wait, she said daughter.
I thought she said dog, too.
But on the mic, it sounds like daughter.
That's so funny.
Yeah.
Well, now I apologize to her.
It wasn't as bad as we thought.
Okay.
Okay. Sorry, young lady.
I swear it.
On my phone, it sounds like Daw.
That's what I, on my phone too, but when I put it up to the mic, I heard Dar.
All right.
Well, we got a hint.
We got to send out an edible arrangementable to that young lady who doesn't, that doesn't feel
suffer for the wife, either.
She agreed with him.
Okay.
You know, but the daughter.
All right, good.
We think more of this young lady.
Yes, we do.
So I don't think they think their impulse.
And no, you are right in that they don't know where they don't know where they are.
They're in, they think they're in a Steelers sports bar.
Yeah.
They're not.
They're in a bar that has many different fans in it.
And they think they're going to put a Steelers jersey on and start screaming that the Ravens should be killed.
And then somebody taps them on the shoulder wearing a Ravens jersey.
And they're like, what's happening here?
Yeah.
They come from academia mostly.
You know, they're in this cocoon of that.
Journalists.
And they just go, every human being I know agrees with exactly what I'm saying.
So I'm just going to say it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And expect to be sort of lauded for it.
We just got fucked by COVID because of this like mentality.
Yes, that's true.
Yes.
It's the same thing.
All right.
Drew's got to make a flight.
I'm going to be in Albuquerque, September 26.
and then it'll be at the chemo theater
and then September 27th, the Orphium Theater.
You can go to Amcrow.com for all the live shows.
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Amcraw for James Webb and Dr. Drew, say it.
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