The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2041 - Violence against the Truth

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

On this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, Dr. Drew recaps his trip to San Francisco and explains why he now believes the city is cleaner than Los Angeles. Later, Adam and Dr. Drew react to a recent clip of Barack Obama criticizing the Trump administration’s claims about Tylenol, vaccines, and autism.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. Dr. 245 said. Dr. Drew over there. Coming in for you zoom. Coming in hot.

Yeah, buddy. Why does that never not funny to me? you're mumbling at the opening of the show. What's wrong with me? I don't know. There's certain things you like that no one else likes, and that could be a... I think there's a lot of things that fit in that category.

Are you going to be in New York when I'm in New York? Correct. We're going to be on Gutfeld together. Oh, so how did that change? Remember a week ago I was asking you about you in New York and you're like, not going to be there then? No, no, no, no. I said, hang, stand by.

I don't know. I don't think so, but things could change, and they did. Yeah, I guess. Well, no, the things could change part of that. That's the part. Anyway, you're going to be there. It's fine. And I'm going to be at your thing with Kat.

I just found out, too. That Thursday night. Kat Williams, yeah. We're doing a show there in New York City. And that's going to be a live podcast and a stand-up show at Rodney's in October. Nice. All right. But me and Mike got to find a hotel now because you're going to be there and staying in the condo, right?

Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. I told you. I didn't know. We didn't lock anything off. All right. Good. But I got to tell me. All right. But I am just back from my travel to San Francisco where I did a visit with Greg Gutfeld of Scott Adams, which was really kind of really fun. And we did a live stream yesterday, the three of us. And it's just so extraordinary to me. And it's just so extraordinary to me. three of us that, you know, sort of three people that kind of have something to say and have interesting lives can just turn on a computer and talk to a million people. You know what I mean? If people want to listen to our thoughts and hang out with us, it's just, it's just, we live in extraordinary times. We really do. We do. We live in extraordinary times that I can't fully reconcile because of all the information. Yeah. And all the

technology, you know, whatever, and then we're still swimming in a sea of horrific ideas and garbage and sort of human waste and stuff like that. I think one comes with the other. One comes with the other, right? And I think we're finding our way through. No, I know. I'm talking about, I don't know that one comes with the other per se, but I know what you're talking about.

But no, what I'm saying is sort of marveling at what we're capable of. while driving through, at least in Los Angeles sort of damnation alley with garbage everywhere and humans littered everywhere with this technology, which is, it's kind of interesting because those dystopian future movies sort of had it right in a weird way. The technology with the drones and stuff, but then also with the biblical poverty and misery. At the same time, there's a drone delivering food over your head. You're on the street, you know, just sort of withering away and dying. Yes. Well, that's sort of one sort of interesting philosophical sweep of it. But on the other hand, you could just as easily conclude, isn't it now

obvious how volitional this is? We're doing this on purpose. This is a volitional thing. And by the way, San Francisco, much better than Los Angeles now. Oh, really? That mayor just, guess what? Said we're going to clean this up. We can't lie down on the sidewalk. Oh, magically, it's a thousand percent better. Yeah, I don't, like I said, I can't reconcile it.

You know what I mean? Like, I just know what works, what doesn't work. It's so replicatable. It's been around. It's old as biblical times. You know, you just sort of know what to do. And then they just sort of come in. I know what it is.

I know what it is because I saw it with my own family. My mom was sort of fixated on why do we have to do anything the way we used to do it. You know what I mean? And I don't think people understand this component of it. Yes. Because what they do is they kind of think, well, these people, they want justice and they want freedom and they want clean water. What's wrong with clean water and clean water? and clean air, you know, that's what they want.

But it's not what they want. What they want is different than was ever done before. And it's like, that's what Bernie Sanders wants. He just wants different, you know, and they can't figure out that it never works. They can't make it work. And by the way, it manifests not as them coming forward and just saying explicitly, we want different. What they'll say is, we figured it out.

Now we know. now we know. Those are the scariest words I ever hear. Right. Yeah, Gavin Newsom, California's leading the way, showing the way to the rest of the nation, clean, you know, safety and dignity and people being treated with respect, you know, like, and also this weird talk about, you know, being treated with respect and stuff like that. It's just, it's weird. Like my feeling is, I don't really need respect, but I just don't want potholes and fires and stuff like that. And the respect part, I'll figure that part out. Also, by the way, this is one of the ways you know they haven't figured out because if they just leave us alone, guess what we go back to?

Taking care of our family, having stable relationships, exercising, die, all this education. We go back to that when you leave us the fuck alone. Yes, I agree. But as I was driving here and I was thinking about it, the amount of conversation about, you know, the government taking care of you know what I mean we're in a sanctuary city people come here and they want to be taken care of and it's like I don't know stop with the government and the taking care of people it's not going to work you know it's not going to work to your satisfaction that it's it's it's funny it's it's like endless talk about who's going to be do who for what

and how we're going to and almost know hey get your shit together talk you know just take care of yourself. This is why we're here. Did you see Alex Mickelson, my old partner from Fox 11 during the COVID era, now has an evening show on CNN, and he does interviews, and he was interviewing Arlen Schwarzenegger. And it was really, I just, my admiration for him just, it always goes up. It only goes one direction. Watch the documentary, if you haven't seen it on him. The Schwarzinger one. His life is incredible. Yeah, no, I liked him until he told everyone just get the shot and shut up. Are have no freedom or you miss that. Well, first off, Drew, what you do is you talk about two people and then say,

I love that guy, which confuses people. Okay, Schwarzenegger's the guy. Shortenger's the guy like because you have seen Alex Michelson, my old partner, my old partner, he's on CNN. He interviewed Schwarzenegger. My respect for that guy just goes up. Okay, now there's two guys we're talking about, Drew. Fair enough.

And to be fair, my respect for Alex goes up too, but I'm talking about Schwarzenegger. Yeah, I figured you're talking about Schwarzenegger, but you let up with so much. Alex talk that I thought maybe. All right, now. Wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Schwarzenegger said a horrible thing. He said, fuck your freedom. He said a horrible thing?

He said, fuck your freedom. Oh, back then. Yes, he did. And I think he needs to, you're right, that was where he fell off the cart a bit for me. But he said something, let me tell you something he said that goes against that, which is he was saying, you know,

I was up in Sacramento his years, they're dumb, they don't know what they're doing. He said that a million times. But he said most of these people are interested in collecting power for themselves. He goes, I'm interested in the sovereignty of the people. The people have all the power. It needs to be returned to the people. And that's it. And I thought, oh, yeah, yeah. That's the, that's called a republic. That's what we're supposed to be doing here. Yeah. And listen, I like Schwarzenegger's well and I enjoyed the doc as well.

But like I said, fuck your freedom. I will, I will definitely call them out for that. I agree. I agree. All right. There is a clip that I liked. an hour or so ago, Andrew, that I wanted to get Drew's take on. It was Obama talking about Tylenol, and I watched it through a couple of times, and I realized Obama, whereas Kamala Harris has a sort of word salad, a sort of jumbled word salad that is pretty detectable. Yep. Obama has a slow, smooth, and steady word salad where it's, you end up in the same place

with Kamala, which is nowhere because he doesn't say anything. Mm-hmm. And look at the deep knee bend. Look at that leg crossed, Drew. I see it. He goes, he goes full deep. I mean, I don't know. By the way, I, okay.

So, listen, Greg Scott and I had a long talk about that yesterday. It's Scott's house. How we cross our legs. Wait, sorry. Gutfeld and Scott, Greg and Scott. Okay. Yes. Yeah.

Gutfeld, Scott Adams. Yeah. All right. I'll just see. Now, again, he's not, I don't know. He's not saying anything inflammatory. He's just not really saying anything. We have the spectacle of my successor in the Oval Office, making broad claims around certain

drugs and autism that have been continuously disproved and all right you can pause there first off what do we okay he's talking about autism i don't remember biden talking about autism or discussing it or trying to eradicate it or bringing it up at all he's talking about you're talking about trump right yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know why we need a an applause break for that but okay Well, by the way, he's, he's, that's actually false. That's measured, that's actually demonstrably false, what he just said. Yeah. There's a strong signal, not disproven, a strong signal that in fact,

Tylenol may have an impact on autism. Yeah, yeah. Well, he doesn't, doesn't matter. He lies sort of slowly and like a, like a, like a, like a sagely uncle. It's interesting, though, he does have, when you listen, it is a little, the rhythm is a little like a Kamala Harris rhythm. It's kind of surprising. I was like, oh, yeah, maybe she learned that from him,

and she thinks she's doing something when she talks like that. Well, I don't know. My point is his package and rhythm is a lot better, but nothing. Oh, well, he's got content. There's actual content there. Yeah, well, no, but, okay, you're saying that. I know what you're saying. You keep saying the opposite of what I'm saying.

No, no, no, I know what you're saying. There is no content. He just started off with bullshit. What he just said, there's nothing, nothing is coming out the other end. It's just a very, by the way, I couldn't moderate because I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, what are we doing? What are we talking about here? We're not talking about anything. All right.

So he's wrong about Tylenol. But look, the thing about Tylenol is like talk to your doctor, take it, don't take it, shut the fuck up, turn the page, moving on. All right. But also, these guys believe, it's also, you know, he said inject bleach. Like, okay, nobody injected bleach. All right, but just listen to his sort of slow methodical discussion. But tell me what you've learned. Yeah.

And autism that have been continuously disproved. And the degree to which. that undermines public health, the degree to which that can do harm to women who are pregnant. Oh, yeah. The degree to which that creates anxiety for parents. It does harm to women, what, not taking Tylenol, does harm to pregnant women, it creates anxiety. Right. It does harm to pregnant women.

Let's applaud. By the way, the reason I always drill down on this is because this is who they are. Nothing. There's no, I want to fucking talk about a bullet train. Can we talk about a bullet train? No, you want to talk about anxiety of pregnant women who, by the way, like they, like, as if people don't have access to information. Right. All right.

But keep crazy. Keep going. All right. So we're halfway in. He said nothing. Who do have children who are autistic, which by the way, is. itself is subject to a spectrum and a lot of what is being trumpeted as these massive increases actually have to do with a broadening of the criteria across that spectrum.

That I agree with. People can actually get services and help not to, it's, it's, all of that is a, is violence against the truth. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, Dr. He really doesn't, he just doesn't know what he's talking about. And everyone hangs. They hang on his words. Like they're so sagely.

He just said nothing. He just said nothing. Except for a few untruths, a couple untruths and then nothing, yes. Yes, so why? So I just wrote the horse paste crowd is added again. because somehow, I don't know what he thinks he knows. It took a long time for him to say nothing. And with two applause breaks in there, by the way.

Yeah. Jesus, God damn, Christ. I've noticed there are people out there who have rhetorical skills, and they're what the Greeks used to call the sophists, in that they can be persuasive with no content. They can say nothing. They actually not know what they're talking about. And yet sound like they know what they're talking about

or appeal to emotion in such a way that it's persuasive, even though no argument is made. No argument. No factual content is presented. The modern scholars call it chick speak and chick think, where they just talk and talk and talk, but nothing, they're not really saying anything. Yeah, that's the same exact thing, yes.

yeah i have no i really have i can see let's see if socrates can talk about chick speak oh oh my god i i but it's it's kind of effective if you think about i mean you you have to kind of look at the world we're kind of getting into now which is getting into well sorry in to and that and especially with women now which is I don't know that they listen for the actual words. It's more feelings. And, you know, I think your wife experiences you like your dog experiences you. Like, oh, he's upset.

Oh, he seems to be in a good mood. But they don't really, you know, if you said, Rex, we're going to go for a walk. And then we're going to walk. We're stopped by the bakery. All he knows is like, oh, he's in a good mood. Like, okay, we're going for a walk. We're going for a while. We're going.

Yeah, but you can't explain it to him. He just kind of gets the vibe off it. And I've sort of noticed women especially, but a lot of people that just kind of, or like a kid, let's be less insulting. Let's just say a three-year-old. Like they feel your vibe more than the actual words. Yes. You know, because I talk to people and I'll say stuff. And then as soon as I'm done, they go, what did you say?

What did you want to do? like they can't do it like it's a weird I will say to someone carrying a box bring it to the back but don't set it on the floor set it on the desk and then you'll come back and it's on the floor and you go oh they lost it between they didn't lose side of it in two days they did it in two minutes they they screwed it up like lots by the way I do not see that with my older friends They're very sort of dialed in, you know, they hear you. They hear exactly what you said. They listen. They can, you know, you know, it's like I'm having trouble telling jokes to younger people because they're like, they don't, a joke, you have to hear it. Wow.

That's interesting. That's really, that's an indictment, really, because you have to be kind of smart to follow a joke. You have to be. You have to listen to the setup. You have to listen to the content. line doesn't, you're out halfway into the setup. Maybe that's why sort of, you know, comic actors or, you know, sort of the

keratop action comics get a lot of action these days. I don't know. All right. We'll take a quick break. Be right back right after this. This September, CBS hits are streaming free on Pluto TV. For this month only, you can watch full C.C. of the CBS shows you love.

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correlation to this. In what sense? What does that mean? The guys that I work with who do the physical work seem to be able to keep a pattern and an order. Sequence. Sequencing is off.

They can sequence because everything is sequence. It's all, you know, then we'll put down the system. sub floor. Once the subfloor, we'll put down the hardy back of it, put the hardy back, we'll put the thin set down. We'll put the tile on the thin set. Once we get the tile down, then we'll grout it. Once we grout it, then we'll seal it. Then we'll put the base case up after we do the tie. It's sequence, sequence. It's one long order. Order, order, order. Something occurs, man. I don't know if this is a good thought or just incidental,

but something about that sequencing also requires not sort of thinking things. through what you want in a sense and that, hey, if you want the heated floor, you got to decide now because once the sequence moves forward, that's the end of the heated floor. And somehow that kind of has meaning too, right? Oh, 100%. I just had a discussion about a shower and, you know, well, don't you want to steam, you know, steam in the shower. I go, well, you don't get to just put steam in there. Like, we didn't accommodate for steam. And then it's like, you want steam, right? I'm like, I do, but is that runoff 2.40? What's that runoff of? I mean, it needs a water supply. It needs a power supply. It needs an access door so it can be worked on. We didn't plan on any of that. And then the discussion is like, well, just do it. You know, just like I should put it in. Wait a minute. Just shut up, Matt Damon. That's really what we're getting to here, right?

But everything is sequential. And so I'm constantly trying to stay out in front of this stuff. But just do it is so interesting, right? Because that's what people, people have a magical way of thinking now, right? Just do it. Just shut up or just do it, you know, whatever. I have to have conversations with women quite a bit where I just go, look, you can't just, no, that's not going to work. You know, just go, you know, open the phone book, get a guy, bring them out and fix it. You know, I go, no, no, no, no, not going to work.

Well, that's also the death of expertise, right? That's the other thing there. Well, I do spend time telling people you don't know what I know. but just trust me that I know and this is not going to, this is not going to work. And that happens a lot. But I do, I do think a lot of this, a lot of the nutty detachment, you know, like, when you're out front of an ice facility in Portland and you're screaming at the ice people, you know, you should be a Arrested for what it's like, okay, this is a total waste of time. Nobody's going to arrest them.

They can't be arrested. They are the enforcement side of the law. No, they're not doing it. And by the way, you're yelling at a 23-year-old guy who is from Sacramento and is now working ice in Portland. He has no power. He has no jurisdiction. He can't call off anything. he's a he's a low level foot soldier you're screaming at him to go home he can't go home he can't

he has no policy you know what I mean like what are you then that's just sort of yelling put the steam in you know what I mean like like I you anyone who builds who understands sequence and systems and stuff would never yell the guys you're yelling at make zero policy and only carry out the policy of the guy who's in the building or maybe in Washington, ultimately, not even anywhere near this place. And you're screaming in the face of some 23-year-old. Yeah. And so, but here's what I'm saying.

You don't understand sequencing at all. There's no policy. You could scream with this guy all you want. The best he could do. is get tired of you screaming at him and go home and then he'd just be replaced by somebody else. That's the best we could do. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that there's no sort of endpoint, there's no sort of specific request. It's just the discharge of emotions is the entire goal. That's a new phenomenon. Yes. Although, by the way, you know, they've actually uncovered these

organizations now that of course pay the protesters. And it turns out, and if you heard this, they're protesters unions now. Oh, really? They're unionized. Yeah, right? That makes sense. And so they unionize and they have certain rates. They, you know, and so, wow, it's gotten so crazy. And how people can think of these things as spontaneous or meaningful or asking for something specific other than agitation it's just we have to just stop stop it everybody yeah well it's always interesting too because you know CNN should blow the lid off of this and do a you know do a hard-hitting news story on it but they never will about the professional agitators yep which is interesting and also as I was talking about on ACS I talked about it with you a little off the air but

you know, the concept of the Capitol Police, you know, the January 6 people, you know, they got a lot of mileage out of the long lasting and deep psychological scarring of the Capitol police from the riot, right? And I was, you know, trying to break it down. First off, I hate that. It's like bullshit. Look, if you sign up to be a cop, you sign up to be a cop, sometimes you got to fucking battle with people. Don't give me the deep, you know, psychological, scarring or whatever. I had the same reaction when during COVID we were hearing from nurses in the ICU. Like, people are dying. I thought something is wrong here because nurses that work in the ICU, 80, 85% of their patients die. That's just the way it always is. Yes, I know. And what are you talking about? And it turned out

these were floating nurses that weren't ICU nurses that were sort of traveling and weren't really designed emotionally for that kind of work. Yeah. So look, the thing about the Capitol Police on that day, a percentage of them were just leading tours through the rotunda and then another percentage route doing battle with agitators, unarmed agitators with American flags and Trump hats, but okay, during the day. And I would imagine about the most trauma you could get into was about three or four hours of actual trauma agitation. And that's if you're at the tip of the spear. You know, many were inside and whatever. All right, one time, no shots fired, nothing. Okay. Now you're an ice agent and you have to stand out there day after day and week after week

and they're chucking bricks at your car and they're shooting in your facility and they're screaming in your face, your baby killer, whatever. How come the people, aka the Democrats, do not worry about the long-term mental and emotional implications of the poor ice guys

who have to stand out there and endure this? And by the way, I would ask anybody, would you rather your son have a bad afternoon at the Capitol? or have a daily job where he was screamed at, shot at, and bricks were thrown at his vehicles. Yeah, I agree. And by the way, encouraged by the mayor, encouraged by the governor,

you got, you know, Newsom cheering it on. But remember, Newsom was disgusted by the way we treated the Capitol Police and how they had psychological injuries that would carry on for the rest of their life. and then if any of them killed themselves a year later, that still was attributed to the January 6th crowd. Yeah. So which is it, bitches? Or are you just lying? And the reality is you don't care about either one, which is what it is.

They don't care about January 6th and they don't care about ice either. They don't care about either one. But they pretend to care very deeply about the January 6 guards. But what's the difference? They're just young men who are. in service of this nation. And they didn't ask for whatever this was. Yeah.

But Jesus. Violence from the public, yeah. Violence from the public, but much more violence in the ICE department and a prolonged violence and, I mean, just being screamed at over and over and over, you know, hours on end. And I'm even willing to concede, let's say, okay, the mayor, the governor is pushing that along. Yeah, but the President of the United States pushed on January 6th. Okay, fine. It's a push. Let's talk about what these young men are experiencing. It's a lot different on the ice side.

Yes. But they're immoral. The Capitol Police are neutral. Being an ice agent is immoral, right? I don't know. I mean, they don't seem to like them. Remember the ones on the horseback or whipping the Haitians, signs of Jim Crow. And that was awesome. Jesus Christ, these people. but listen to be fair to them it's not their fault it's everyone's fault who believes them they have no as if gavin newsome has great love for the capital police or worries about the young men and he doesn't care about it anyway yeah all right so you can go to amcrowl.com i'm going to be at kimball's club in Vegas Thursday friday saturday doing two shows each night there coming up this weekend and then we'll be with drew at ronnie's in new york city go to amcrow.com for all the live

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