The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2042 - Running Out of Problems
Episode Date: October 3, 2025On this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, Adam and Dr. Drew kick things off with a conversation about the importance of political balance between the left and the right. Later, Dr. Drew ...shares a clip highlighting how the trans movement has overtaken the broader gay rights movement, sparking an intense discussion.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Now, you know, you're right.
We're talking the last show about hanging around with Gutfeld and Scott Adams and the three of you.
Yeah.
And it's a thing that I very much have an interest in, which is like if somebody said, well, you know,
Gutfeld and Scott Ambs and Dr. Drew talked about this problem or that problem and then they agreed on this or that.
I would go, oh, okay, well, that sign, I'll sign me up, you know, I'm fine with it.
You know what I mean?
I'm sure they landed in some place that was pretty well thought out and make sense and what have you.
And I would fail the same way if Rick Caruso or Mark Erigas did it.
But not Kamala Harrison, not Karen Bass.
Like I wouldn't do it.
But by the way, I wouldn't do it with any decision.
We could be talking about furniture.
I wouldn't want to do it because I'd be like, I don't trust them.
I don't think they thought it out.
Or, you know, let's just say, Brandon Marshall or whatever, you know,
mayor of Chicago or whoever those dingbats are.
Like, I just, I wouldn't trust them with anything.
Did you see the email from the assistant to Randy Weingarten,
who was talking about, you know, them supporting certain figures
and they have to be more careful because Chicago was such a disaster.
No, I'd love to hear this.
But again, Randy Weingarten, okay.
she's an angry childless lesbian what's she doing again oh she leads the largest union of teachers
i'm like why who is she by the way she seems unhinged she seems dumb and her policies are
fucked up so what are we doing why her what's she doing i know it's such a bizarre world
and and and then what would the outcome what is the outcome you would expect
with her leading the teacher test scores are down 41% yeah of course for sure why wouldn't they be
whatever it is they're doing it's the it's all a bad idea kids are getting fatter and dumber
yeah okay you're feeding them slop and you stop you're not keeping test scores anymore
of course they're fatter and dumber why wouldn't they be how else would any of this go well it's the same
as the policing is the is the disease and if you just remove police everything'll be fine
Same thing with education.
You had you had free-range education.
You were exposed to it.
Yes, I was.
That's why you were such an avid reader
because, of course, everybody doesn't learn how to read
just automatically goes to books.
Yeah, yeah.
So the top aide
to National Teachers Union President,
Randy Whitehall,
claimed that Zorhan Mondani
lacks experience to lead New York City
and cited the unpopularity
of far-left Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson
as a cautionary tale,
according to the bombshell emails.
It's kind of a weird,
it's such a weird thing where it's like they're kind of like,
look, we have all our ideas
and all our ideas are
what we're really wanting to implement.
But when people get uncut,
pure grade, our ideas,
those cities turn to shit.
immediately. And by the way, Adam, you have to read between the lines there. Be careful because
they're not saying our ideas are shit. They're saying we need an experienced person to apply
our ideas. Then everything will be fine. Yeah, but what I'm kind of saying is, so you got to think
of it this way, right? You go, look, is this, this substance, you're going to feed your kid,
this powder.
Is it protein or is it poison?
Right?
Okay.
And then what they're saying is essentially in the cities that implement what we want,
when we want it and how we want it, they get pure poison.
They get pure poison and then everything turns to shit immediately and then you have San Francisco.
Okay.
Los Angeles now.
San Francisco is actually ahead of us.
Angeles. Well, you get what happened to San Francisco. Okay. Yes. Now what we can do is if you have
your protein and we just sprinkle a little bit of our poison in it, it'll be fine. You can it'll
keep your kid won't die. We'll die that. But you get rid of the protein and you go pure us.
Like you just go blue progressive mayor, governor, city council, then the city gets poisoned and turns to
shit and nothing gets done and that's what happens you know ben carson had a metaphorical way of
saying the same thing he said that we need a right and a left wing of the american eagle in order
for it to be able to fly and if you have all left on all only a left wing of that eagle that eagle
is going to have trouble yeah but if you had only a right wing it would have trouble that's right
You need both wings in order to ascend further.
Yeah, but see, I don't, I don't really subscribe to that.
I'm like, look, I'll go to fucking Florida and I'll find a town that has a Republican mayor
and we'll have Ron DeSantis be, you know, be the governor and the city council, I hope is red and I'll just move there.
And then I'll, but let's look at that.
But that's how the right got in trouble, right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no, listen.
You cannot, okay.
You and I used to fight the right, remember?
No, you cannot be in power for prolonged periods of time
and then also not feel that there's any jeopardy.
And also some wacky wing of the wing takes over,
and that's what happened during.
I agree, but I would much rather live with the DeSantis and mayor, whoever, over there in Florida.
For sure.
clearly i mean that's the what is inevident right but even so uh you worry worry about the excesses
i worry about excesses on both sides that's that's my jam speaking of that i want to play can i play
a video for you i listen the excesses on both sides i agree but the other the other kind of
the right sort of has a you know they want the 10 commandments and posted in every classroom and i'm like
Okay, I don't give a fuck.
But poverty and crime and congestion and potholes, I do not want that.
Yes.
So one is like a kind of a weird hypothetical thing.
You know, well, what if you're pregnant?
And, okay, I'm not pregnant.
Well, it's the, we're the right, the reason Bill Maher can't trust the right is he remembers when the right was preaching and telling us how to live in the 80s and the 90s, remember?
And that I agree with them.
That was not good.
I don't want anybody to tell me how to live, you know what I mean?
Quiet.
Quiet.
Yes, they told you.
Tipper Gore said, don't buy any of these rock and roll albums or whatever.
Fine.
But nobody did it and it wasn't enforced and it didn't matter.
Yeah.
COVID is a different thing.
Yeah.
That's different.
That's arrest and enforcement.
Yeah, I agree.
I don't.
You can say to me, you son, you better get to church all day long, but until you show up
and handcuffed me and drag me to church, and I really care about your policies that don't
really affect me.
So the right has a lot more hypothetical policies.
You know, what if your daughter, what if your wife, her friend, okay, they're 60, nobody cares.
You know what I mean?
Like it's always hypothetical, I shouldn't say always.
It's a lot of hypothetical versus a wide open border.
order. Yes, no, I agree with you. I don't disagree. But just one little, this is just a minor
pushback and maybe why I'm pushing back, because I remember this. Remember when Colin Powell's son
was the head of the FCC? And for a while, we couldn't use certain language and chased Stern
off the public airways. It had consequences. He's, I know. But is Stern in a gulag or is he a
billionaire? Absolutely, 100%. I'm just saying, you're saying what I'm saying. It's a lot
I agree. I don't disagree. You know what I mean? Oh, you can't say titties. All right. I'm going to say boob. All right. Okay. That's, that's not, you know, we're getting in. You're right. I think, listen, I'm glad we're having this conversation because it shines a bold light on the excesses. When the government gets involved in restricting freedoms, for real, it's bad. Well, look, stop and frisk is some restriction of a freedom or something. I don't mind. I don't care. I'm not carrying a gun.
Yeah. Stop me.
Ask me where I'm going.
Yeah.
Ask me to show you some ID.
I'll show you some ID and then I'll continue going where I'm going.
Before I show you, I want to show you, did you see the couple on a plane with Trump hat, you know, Miga hats on and the woman next to them having a shit fit?
Oh, no.
You're attacking me.
That sounds great.
That's perfect.
It's your mom, right?
That's your mom.
No, my mom, I don't hate to say no.
my my mom would have sat there quietly seething and then got home and talked to her friend norma
and explained that she can't believe that these people are out there blah blah blah but my mom
wouldn't have you know screamed on a plane but you don't think my mom would do that right
you now that it certainly would have been your mom's feelings but yeah but you're you're I could
see your mom losing it at some point but you're right that would not be her move my my mom was
sort of broken and quiet and yeah yeah and would have sat there quietly feeling threatened or
something but she's in she wouldn't have she my mom wouldn't have made a public scene as well
that was pretty wild right I didn't see it I just I just assumed it you know well let's look at
your first video and then we can we can see okay the first video this first video is set up for you
this is a different topic this is a different topic this is
is something that was a confirmation. I just thought it was interesting of something I've been
saying for a long time. So what I've been saying is that, and Gutfeld and I used, you know,
you mentioned thus reaching a consensus. Gutfeld and I always clash on this issue, which is
the treatment of people with a transgender experience. And my thing is, I don't want to take away
treatment options for physicians. I want them to diagnose things properly and create the right
treatment for the right patient and the right sequence at the right time, but we don't have the
data to do that yet. So to be so blanketed with our treatment approach is only going to
do, it's primarily going to do harm. And this young individual, you'll have to listen to,
I think it is a her at this point, but listen to what she says.
with what actually caused you when they're being diagnosed.
They're not being diagnosed with what actually causes the gender dysphoria.
They're just being diagnosed with a symptom of a problem.
And there are multiple problems that cause those symptoms.
And when you don't appropriately diagnose people, you lead them into a life of ruin.
All of these interventions are permanent.
They're irreversible and they lied to me.
I want people to know that they're lying to people.
They're not diagnosing autogynophiles as autogynophiles.
I have friends who medicalize all the way in our self-admines.
who were never diagnosed with the reason they feel this way.
They were just transitioned.
Who do you blame for this sort of fast-tracking of medicalizing children?
I think after gay marriage was one, there was an empty hole in gay politics.
We had gone everything we wanted, and I think trans jumped into all of the orgs that were associated with the gay community,
and they lobbied to make gender identity a protected thing.
They started doing that in the 90s, and I think this is a byproduct of the trans community intentionally.
community intentionally watering things down and lobbying so everybody can have access
and they don't care about the people who are indoctrinated, who are harmed by this loosey-goosey
system where you can walk into a therapist in 15 minutes and be given a gender dysphoria
diagnosis.
And what do you think it'll take to fix it?
It's going to take lawmakers to step up and shut it down.
Well, I would just want to say that I don't blame the transgender community for this.
I blame my profession.
It is physicians that are doing this.
prescribing it and hurting a person like that, she feels harmed by it, that those doctors
should be taken to task for having harmed a patient and potentially like the level of
malpractice and unsophisticated treatments, they should be held.
That's what's going to hold things accountable.
It seems to me the patients have to hold people accountable, but that's, that's my opinion.
All right, no, okay, the data out of whatever Nashville hospital or, I don't matter if it's
in Nashville, or it was. But, you know, Memo's floating around, which is, hey, you get people on
these meds, they do these surgeries, and we make a lot of money. And so look no further than money
with a lot of this stuff, you know. So there's this, it was a Nashville or maybe somewhere else
in Tennessee, but I mean, you get people, you know, you get a 13 year old coming in and saying,
I'm going to transition. That's a moneymaker for a while. There's lots of money attached.
of that person, right? From the hospital standpoint, versus a healthy 13-year-old where there's
no money, no profit, no motivation, you know? So, A, there's there's money. And Andrew can look
it up, but there's a story. I mean, of doctors, oh, it wasn't even a, it wasn't even a,
it was a female doctor sort of speaking to her constituency basically saying, we get these people
transitioning and that means a lot of money coming in the door, the hospital.
So that's number one.
But I mean, you're shaking your head as if they're like as if we just got butt fucked fucked
by COVID and all the money and all the pharmaceuticals and also it was a Vanderbilt
University.
Oh, your kid's alma mater, right?
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's a great, it's a great medical school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we have a clip of the lady.
We were fine the clip or maybe they scrubbed it.
But the point is, is she got up there.
and she's at Vanderbilt and said, hey, a lot of money. Okay. So let's not discount the notion
that pharmaceutical companies and or hospitals would like to make money. And if this is a burgeoning
industry, they would do it. I would argue it's the same thing as the opiate crisis. It's generated
by my profession and then the moneyed interest blow wind into the sales aggressively. That's kind of how
works not that one is right one is wrong or one is better one is more powerful yes um so we're trying
to find this clip that yes yes they don't look they things work in unison you know in harmony or
something yeah and that's that's but still i can't i can't i cannot do anything about the
motivation to make a profit i can do something about the dysfunction of my profession well but
this woman tapped into something that i've been saying for a long time that i'm surprised you didn't
dig into, Drew, but we'll listen to the Vanderbilt woman.
Starting in January 1st of 2017, according to the Affordable Care Act, insurance
carriers are mandated to cover medical expenses for transposed. Some of our BUMC financial
folks in August of 20, I'm sorry, October of 2016, started a couple years ago, put down some
costs of how much money we think each patient would bring in. And this is only including top
surgery this doesn't include any bottom surgery and it's a lot of money these surgeries make a lot of
money so females a male in chest reconstruction can bring in 40,000 dollars a patient just got
routine hormone treatment who I'm only seeing a few times a year can bring in several thousand
dollars because it requires a lot of visits and labs it actually makes money for the hospital
now these are got from the internet all right all right who is she who is she now I don't know we can look at
I mean, she's in a position where she's speaking for the hospital.
And we could, I hope she's not a physician to God.
I hope to God.
Hey, by the way, Drew, 40 grand.
That's just top surgery, man.
Yeah.
We get to the schvance and the coups, man.
But I think, didn't she say the schwanse and coup surgery even more?
That's just top surgery, okay?
Schwarzectomy.
So.
Yeah.
And by the way, hey, and guess what?
Insurance company.
Because government made insurance companies pay for it now.
so we're going to get a lot of business.
Well, isn't she saying the Affordable Care Act is what's creating this?
Is that what I heard her say?
Probably.
I'm sure.
Wow.
Yeah, they love it.
Now, look, I will get to something that you may have missed with this person who spoke
before this, this trans person.
Because, okay, well, I'll tell you right after this.
Quick break.
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stream now pay never okay so you missed a part or maybe you didn't miss it but we didn't
we didn't discuss it but it's something i've i've discussed a lot with you if you listen to that
previous person talking Andrew she says at the beginning she goes well the gays got everything they
wanted. So we had to pick up and keep fighting with something else. She said that. Yeah, she said that
what I heard too. Right. I've told you 2,000 times. They don't care about what they say they want.
They just keep rolling along. You see what I'm saying? They go, we want gay marriage. We want
we doing. And they go, fine, get married. And they go, oh, fuck it. We're doing something else now.
We are pushing and being combative. There's a fuck. L.A. had a million woman March three years ago.
I talked to women who went to the march
I asked them what they were marching for
they didn't know
they're fucking out of problems
is what it is but they're not out of grievance
they're out of problems not grievance
and the whole thing was grievance based in the first place
by the way black lives matter
whatever the women's women black
the gay and lesbian are they fucking nuts
what year is it what's going on
where's the oppression
I mean they do it with a straight face
You know, all the fucking rich black people on TV do the thing where they go,
well, you know what it's like to grow up in America as a black man.
Tell me all about it, Van Jones, when you're on the way back to your luxury condo.
Tell me all.
Tell me what it's like.
I don't know what it's like.
Seems to be okay.
Unless you're talking about getting shot by another black guy, then it's bad.
But that's not what you're talking about.
You're talking about something white.
Okay, just listen to the beginning.
after gay marriage was one there was an empty hole in gay politics we had gone everything we wanted
and i think trans jumped into all of the works that were associated with the gay community
and they pause that's what happened i told you they didn't by the way as if they're interested
the LGBT community trans community what are you talking about the fuck are you talking about and yes
these these people are going to regret this because they're doing it when they're 14 15 and 16 just like
you got a tattoo at 14, 15, 16, you would regret it.
Yeah.
By the way, what have you just said you can transition to another, like, let me,
let me ask you this, Drew.
Right.
I can't wait.
Let's just say you could transition to be a black person.
You could undergo surgery and whatever it was.
You'd just be a black person.
Yep.
A large number of kids in, especially Portland, Los Angeles.
Angeles, San Francisco, New York, there'd be a huge number of young people that would transition
to being black.
They would.
They would, and they would at 15, and they would at 17, and they would at 19.
But if you talk to them at 40, they probably would say they wish they hadn't transitioned.
And I don't know.
At about 10 years ago, I was sitting at a party with the cast and production from the talk.
it's a, you know, it's a number of different ethnicities at the table.
And somebody was just being polemical, goes, what would you, you know, if you could be a
different race and gender, what would it be?
And I just, they looked at me, what would you do?
I said, man, I'd be a black man, for sure.
And they're like, what?
Why would you?
I'm like, no, it seems like, it seems like there's some, you know, I'd be, that'd be cool.
I remember a lot of things come with that that are good.
Well, here's what I want to say.
there are perceived perks they have constructed a retarded world where there's some kind of
perceived perk to being a white heterosexual male right right they have they have they have a
perceived perk they actually look at it in a way they look at it like what in reality what being
very good looking is.
Yes.
It's just an advantage.
It's just helpful.
It opens doors.
You get certain jobs that unattractive, short guys don't get bald guys.
You know what I mean?
So they look at being a heterosexual white male as an advantage.
And to be fair, it was that for most of the history of this country.
Yeah, but hold on a second.
It's not really an advantage if there's a thousand.
and white heterosexual males all trying to get the same job.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know what you mean.
You can.
You still have to work hard.
I get it.
Well, no, you can discriminate against a small group of people.
I mean, what I'm saying is, is let's just say you discriminated in modern times.
Here we are.
Yeah.
Let's just say we go, we're going to discriminate against the indigenous community men and also, you know,
tribal men and Eskimos.
I go, okay, get rid of them.
Okay, get rid of them.
But it still doesn't mean I'm getting the job
because there are five other white guys
trying to get the same job, you know what I mean?
And you can't help all of them.
So they perceive that being white heterosexual male
is, I would say, on about the same level
as being an attractive woman.
Like, okay, don't tell me, doors don't open.
You know what I mean?
Now, look, no.
No one comes down and says, you're now going to be shortstop for the Yankees or I'm going to make you a billionaire.
But the good looking chick always can find a job bartending or as a greeter at a Vegas hotel or whatever.
You know, they'll be just fine.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the feeling.
That is untrue.
There are no perks.
But what is true is there's actual perks to being a black male.
When I did earthquake rehab for the city of Los Angeles and I got my dream job, which was a shit job, but it was 18 bucks an hour, I'd had five years in construction by then.
They were like, we need a black guy on this job.
And they just found a black guy who had no experience who just showed up and made eight.
That guy was making 18 bucks an hour day one of construction.
I was making 18 bucks an hour five years in.
And by the way, I went from 12 bucks an hour debt, whatever.
The whole point is, is perk.
Same with me being a fireman.
There are perks.
Well, let's look at a little bit.
So what is the liability that they're perceiving?
And it's very much what you always talk about.
So if I were a black male, I would have come up in a family where dad may not have been
there.
Mom was working her ass off.
My educational system may have been shitty.
That's the part.
And people sort of don't understand maybe that that's the part.
part that creates the liability. If we could correct that, maybe the liability would be less.
Yeah, well, intact family, sure, but they never bring up. They never bring that up.
Just the education part would go a long way. Drew, let me tell you for the 150th time.
I went to L.A. County public schools. I was a shit student. You may have heard that.
Yeah, but part of the reason you were a shit student is because of the free range bullshit
you got before that.
Ray was a shit student, Chris was a shit student, and they didn't do it.
Nate Wittenberg wasn't a bad student.
Jeff Buck wasn't a bad student.
Robbie Levine wasn't a bad student.
There were good students.
And Alexerato was my friend.
He was a good student.
He went off to Berkeley.
And I went off to ditches with Ray and Chris.
And there was everything in between.
Same schools, same system.
Same books, same classroom.
Different parents.
different priorities the buildings the buildings are shitty institutional housing basically from the
30s prison no it looks like a place a facility you build during world war two yeah to house like
uh japanese you know yeah citizens you know that grills on the window it's an internment camp
every every room was just a box with linoleum on the floor and nowhere can
conditioning. There was no glass. There was no anything. It's just a book and a fucking
a chair with a desk welded to it, you know, that somebody graffitied on. Same auditorium.
Everything was exactly the same. Everything is saying. And then you would show up and you would
either study and take the SATs and head off with Alexerado to go to Cal Berkeley or
whomever with Stanford. There were tons. I shouldn't say tons. There are quite a few of these people that
went to UCLA, Stanford, and Cal Berkeley, or you could clean carpets with me and Ray and Chris.
Good times. Right. Okay. Nothing about, we all had, we all had the same teachers in the same
schools, fed the same institutional slop. Same. Everything was the same, but the parents were different.
And that's why they ended up there.
Now, I make more money than all of them now, so, you know, it all worked out.
It all worked out for me.
But Drew, we get into this, the system, you know, the school, the system.
There's such a thing as showing up and studying even in a shit school.
Yeah, I mean, Abraham Lincoln, you know, read in his bed every night, you know what I mean,
in the countryside with a three-walled house.
Yes, you can do that.
I mean, it's the same, it's the same excuse they make, you know, when they go, well,
these people don't have money and they can't afford good quality food feed them a fucking hard
boiled egg yes you can and an apple no you don't have to be fat no you don't you can be healthy
it's easy stop fucking drinking so much soda stop eating so much bullshit you can do it they don't
have money they don't have an irwan or whole you don't need a fucking urwan our whole foods you just
fucking eat like people used to eat 50 years ago it's easy stop spending all the fucking stop all the fast food
It's totally doable.
Stop pretending like you can't do it.
And by the way, politicians, start telling them to fucking do it.
Stop intervening.
This is what's causing it.
They're intervening on their behalf, and they're getting fatter and fucking dumber because they're intervening.
Start telling them.
Get your shit together.
You can do it.
Now, no politician will ever do that because they...
Or if K's kind of doing it.
No, no, no one on the left, they'll do it because they're like, you got to, here's what you got to do.
You have to elect me so I can protect you.
Right, right, right.
Except I never do.
And by the way, there's nothing to protect you from because it doesn't exist.
But other than that, it's a wonderful plan.
All right, I'm going to mean Vegas tonight over at Kimmel's Club.
You can check me out.
A couple shows.
Say hi.
And then me and Drew over in Rodney's, man, with Kat Tim.
It's going to be there as well.
We're doing a live pod and then we're going to do a stand-up show.
Drew, why don't you get five minutes together?
Okay.
You really want to do that?
Get five minutes.
Get three minutes of stand up together.
Come on,
let me see you've been on stage for collective 7,000 hundred hours.
You've been put together fucking an anecdote or something.
I will.
And you have to, you know, literally you have to,
you're going to have to teach me.
I swear to God, just listen, listen.
Just give me this one little primer.
You know what?
I'll look it up on grok.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
Fuck you.
I'll do it.
Just go fucking put together three minutes.
All right.
You then and then Kat and then we will do standup for the late show.
Drew's going to make his debut.
All right.
Jesus Christ.
Porn stars.
Monica Lewinsky does it.
Monica Lewinsky does it.
Farrah from teen mom.
Farah from teen mom does it.
Get four minutes, Drew.
Let's do this.
All right.
Big debut.
All right.
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What do you got, Drew?
Well, I'm going to be at Rodney.
He's doing four minutes instead of New York City on the eighth or whatever that is.
Ninth.
And, yeah, go to doctory.com.
Ask Dr. Drew, we want to see you there.
Check out also the pod that I did with Scott Adams and Greg Gupfeld.
People seem to really like it.
We did about a 90-minute stream there.
It's up and available.
And otherwise, join me on X at DRDRAW.
We'll blast out when we go live.
So, until next time, Matt Pover, Dr. San, Mahala.
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