The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2051 - The Chick Think Era

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew dive into Adam’s latest AI creation — Burt Reynolds as Gavin Newsom in a mash-up of Kara Swisher’s “Where the hell are you gonna go?” interview. The guys use the clip to skewer how politicians lecture with total confidence while missing the point entirely. Adam dubs Newsom’s view on homelessness “fairytale chick talk,” and the duo zero in on how politicians keep misreading the real problems they claim to solve.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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when you're in New York City yep how you feeling good can't complain so so your your experiment with Mr. Bert Reynolds

has struck a chord with people can you imagine and what what struck me about it is I don't know how to say this first you have to describe it you know

oh I thought everyone well not everyone I don't know You never know. All right. So Adam took the Newsom interview he did many years ago where Newsom was complaining or claiming that check cashing institutions were the greatest sort of concern for the black and brown community. And he was going to solve that problem, of course.

And Adam started challenging him. And that video has been around for a long time and shows the insanity of his reasoning or the lack of reasoning and the lack of thoughtfulness on some of his positions. But he took that video and subjected it to an AI system that turned Newsom into Bert Reynolds with Bert Reynolds' voice, and Adam became essentially an NPR radio journalist, female. Yes, yes. And the insanity just jumps out as a result.

It's, look, in this day and age of birth, really dumb fucking people, you have to lay out these kinds of examples or scenarios like you're talking to a child. You know what I mean? It's like you're talking, you know, when you talk to kids and you're talking about mortgage and interest rates, but you're talking to a 70-year-old, you go, well, let's just say you had a cookie, okay? And Tommy wanted half the cookie.

Tommy's the bank. Okay. Would you be happy to give? Because you have to talk to adults like they're fucking retarded now because everyone is so fucking dumb. And they can't listen and they can't concentrate and they don't get it. And they're all just talking about, by the way, the feelings era, we're in it. We're all this, how they feel. Boy, they feel this way about everything all the time.

So I have to come up with clever ways to try to communicate. with people, but it's no different. I mean, it is funny. I know you love this one, but it's been a while, and then we'll circle back to Bert Reynolds. And also I'll ask Andrew, if we have another one or two we've put together for Drew's delight.

Oh, I can't wait. And please let whatever you're going to say next have something to do with rape being a violent crime. No, no. This is my dad. This is the great Jim Carrey. who at when I was leasing him a luxury car but he would never drive it to my house and I had to him that while you were vying for another luxury car like he was on a campaign for a third

luxury car but he would drive his his his his wife's CRV over to the house instead of the jag that I leased him that was well under mileage right and he never knew what I was talking about I just I kept saying dad if you'd leased a car for something. somebody and they never drove it. Like, don't you think you'd have feelings about that, you know? And he'd go, no, I don't. He, he was sort of dumb and defensive. He kind of did that thing that I hate and people like, I didn't know it was a prerequisite

that I had to drive it everywhere all the time. You know, it's like, like, oh, should I take it home? Just drive it around the block a hundred times just so you'll be sad. I was like, yeah, okay, that's, that's what I'm, it's sad. It's kind of sad that it's sad that a guy that sort of was. that old and that smart would immediately go back to sort of, you know, schoolyard girl kind of shit, you know, 14-year-old girl shit, you know. Yeah.

But it's sad, but it's true. That's the mentality. I don't expect any more out of anybody any, any more. But it is, it is disappointing. But at a certain point when I couldn't get my message through to him, like he wouldn't understand, he didn't understand, I don't know if he didn't understand it, but he kind of rejected it, you know, like, and I kept saying. Wouldn't you have feelings if you paid for this car for somebody and they never drove?

I would have no thoughts. I wouldn't care. Why would I care? But the thing that was funny about my dad is I go, well, let's just say there's a guy you hung out with and he wanted you to buy him an expensive trumpet. And my dad was like, yeah. And I was like, and you bought that expensive trumpet for that guy. But when you would come together on Saturday nights to jam, he would have his old trumpet, not the expense of one that you bought. Wouldn't you have feelings about that, especially if he said, I want another trumpet.

And I want you to buy for me. And my dad, like, paused. And he went, uh, well, I mean, now that I put it in trumpet ease, you know what I mean, Trumpese, right? Like, I don't know why I had to convert it to a fluegel horn. for him to understand what I was saying, which again is stupid and sad. It's just, it's kind of sad that everyone's so dumb all the time or sort of not that but dug in to whatever it is you're saying.

And as much as I think I understand who your dad is from all these years of hearing about him, it makes me almost wonder if that, that, huh, and that little thoughtful moment was, yeah, I would like a new horn. Maybe Adam's move in that direction. you know what I mean like how can I get that horn I did get him a horn at some point but but at that moment he put himself in the position of a guy who bought a friend an expensive trumpet because the guy said he

needed a new trumpet and then when they got together and jammed he never brought the trumpet and it's set it and then also the guy wanted another trumpet in my scenario a new trumpet and that's when my dad had like a little bit of an aha moment because he was picturing himself playing with that guy and his old trumpet and his new trumpet was at home that he paid. Isn't it though both your mom and your dad had this and it's such an odd posture, which is how can I get things from other people? And no feelings about it in terms of pride or one on his own. Nothing. Just how do I get it? How do I get it? That's why I'm super sensitive about it. I, I, These people drive me nuts.

They bother the shit out of me. It cuts to my core when I hear like entitled people wanting shit. And all they do is how can I get free shit from other people? That's all they did. They didn't have a lot of thoughts about it. And there wasn't a dignity or pride or anything. And by the way, that's why when they were together, there was trouble because they just, they just stared at each other when who's going to do what for whom.

And sank. yeah they just sank together they both had to find people that would do stuff for them otherwise mathematically how would it work you know what I mean like I mean yeah okay you're both the car stalled in the gas stations a mile away and you're both just sitting in the car waiting for the other to get out and push but no one's getting out and pushing you need to hook up with someone who pushes now right hopefully you're both pushing that that would be nice but if not both, at least one. But you both can't be sitting in the car.

All right. So, Bert Reynolds, it just dawned on me slowly. About two months ago, I thought, you know, if you read a transcript of me and Gavin Newsom, you would think Gavin Newsom was insane. If you read a transcript. And then I thought, well, how do we act? How would we act out this transcript? And so I thought, well, two actors would act it. And then, and by the way, this is how thoughts work, or they should work.

You're not staring at your phone all day. I thought, why does my character even need to be a male? Wouldn't it be better to be a female? I mean, after all, we're just reading the transcript. It doesn't matter. Also, you were probably, I wonder if you were thinking that people are sort of get defensive because it's you. So you've got to get somebody far away from you.

Yeah. Yeah, but obviously another male isn't me, but yeah, yeah, I wanted the opposite of me, which isn't a guy, it's a girl, and it's an NPR type girl, right? So then I thought, now the Burt Reynolds, I didn't come up with. That was all that was available on AI. Oh, that's funny. I know. It just worked out so well.

Yeah, I was thinking of an actor. I was thinking of an actor, but somehow Burt Reynolds popped up. So I thought, well, let's just make him Burt Reynolds. It's kind of interesting. Bert Reynolds is going to become some sort of universal iconography for something. I don't know what it is yet, but it's going to be some sort of, you know, going to go way past who Burt Reynolds was. Now, I made another one, and there's even another one after that.

but what making my life worth living dude i know this is what it's like we have a i think oh we have the homeless homeless homeless is cute up after this okay well you're in a good year it's a good day for you drew oh this is a jackpot now i don't know maybe we should call the npr girl who we invented maybe we should name her jules dash because that was my form of nom to boom. Well, but Jewel Dash was a male, right? Yes? Let me explain. Let me say, let me tell you something, Drew. Okay. When I was explaining to my ex-wife's dopey friend, by the way, I like her, I only call her dopey friend because she's the one who said Matt Damon shut up. What you were talking about, Al Franken? I was like, oh, okay, you're dope. But when I was talking,

talking to her, I said, well, this doc I got's not getting into Sundance because my name's on it. And then, everyone used to question me back then, Drew. They'd go, what's that have to do? I would have explained to them more than a decade ago. There's nothing with my name on it that's getting into Sundance. And they would basically sort of tell me to make a better film, essentially. It took us a while to wake up. We all had to wake up. Yes. It was a great transition. for me all those years. Now people, I think people understand where we're at now

politically, right? It's not going to work. For the most part. There's not as many deniers as there used to be. Anyway, it was really people on the left who didn't want to admit that their side was engaged in censorship.

Correct. They didn't want to admit they were doing it. So I used to sit... Oh, dude. It wasn't until it all got uncovered, you know, with what was happening with social media. So I had to sit next to Baldwin and whomever else was sort of of that ilk and have them explain to me I was crazy all the time. But they didn't want to admit that their side was, no. Is this another, do I need to apologize and get for that to you? No, they just didn't want to admit that their side, it was the free speech side, was into censorship. I could see that

I could have done that because it seems unbelievable to me. They were into discrimination and censorship. Yeah. Okay. But now at least, at least we've wrapped our minds around that concept that the people on the left could possibly engage in that sort of behavior that they hate so much, right? And to be fair, I mean, you and I were fighting the right on that front for years, but they did it out in the open. Yeah. So I, I, I knew I was being discriminated against in terms of my documentaries and films and and Sundance Film Festival. So I knew that. So then I said, if I changed my name to Jules Dash, then maybe I could get in.

And that's when the dopey friend said, Jules Dash, I don't even know if that's a man or a woman. And I said, exactly. It's perfect. That's why the name is perfect. No, I get that for Jules. So Jules Dash is not a man, it's a man or a woman. But I want this, I want this person to be a woman. So how about Julie dashed?

No, because once you understand, it's like, it's once you understand who the person is, then that's their gender. Okay. All right, fair enough. Julie, Julie's not a highfalutin name. That's true. I would say Jules is 67% of. female but it could be juliana it could be a lot of things right yes yes yes whereas in in the world of males there's only a couple of jewels yeah all right so maybe we'll name or jules dash

all right this is her interviewing gavin newsom now this is actually kara swisher talking to gavin Newsom about five years ago about fleeing, about people leaving California. This is a good one. I know. That's why we did the change. So Bert Reynolds is Gavin Newsom and Jules Dash is Keroswisher and it's on her radio show, I think, our podcast. And she's friendly confines, but she's sort of asking about five years ago, what's going

on with people leaving California. So here we go. Hmm. So excited. Former Governor Brown said it best, where the hell are you going to go? And you know, I love Texas. Don't get me wrong. Is that the new California motto? Where the hell are you going to go? I don't know, but he said it. But it was an interesting point because where are you going to get so many of the other things in the ballots? You are aware that I've lived there for two.

two decades, essentially. And this is the first time I've had people really talking about not being there. And not that they could figure it out somewhere else. I don't think that's true. I think they can figure out where they're going to go. But it's not a zero-sum game. Right. Okay, I have a friend who just went to Utah. Beautiful. It may be the right thing for him. They made a ton of money. They have the ability to take their kids out of public school, into private school, and they're doing that. I imagine they're not going to turn their back forever on California. does anyone know what he said you know it some other stuff jumped out of me this time too which was when bert reynolds was saying it why does he bring the private school thing in there at

all what does that have to do with anything and it and by the way when he says they made a ton of money they're taking that money out of california i mean what the hell's his point but they might come back yeah we don't know they're enjoying Utah with all their money in their private schools but who knows they may come back anyway, there's my example that's my example of why are people leaving California

I know this couple of left listen it's like Jerry Brown said where else you're going to go really? Yeah, well he said it, not me he's a lunatic well he's semi I mean you got to listen to the top

well listen to top one more time he quotes Jerry Brown and then the person goes well I don't agree with that basically and then he goes yeah well I didn't say it he said it right but then he goes but he makes a good point just listen to what he does in the first 20 seconds he quotes somebody then steps away from the quote

former governor Brown said it go ahead and then he says what does that mean I don't know Well, it turns out. Former Governor Brown said it best, right? So then I would go, you know, Ben Franklin said it best, Drew, a stitch in time saves nine. And then you'd go, what does that mean? I'd go, I don't know. But he said it. But he said it best. He said it best. He said it best, but he doesn't know what he meant. But now he knows.

He knows the best. Listen for 20 seconds. He sounds like an insane person. Former Governor Brown said it best, where the hell are you going to go? And you know, I love Texas. Don't get me wrong. Is that the new California motto? Where the hell are you going to go?

I don't know, but he said it. But it was an interesting point because where are you going to get so many of the other things in the ballots? You are aware that I've lived there for... I don't know, but he said it. Yeah. I don't know what Gavin... By the way, this would not... in a non-chick-think era where we just had dumb chicks sitting around just watching somebody talk

and not having any idea what they're saying. If you actually close your eyes and you listen to Perth Reynolds, you go, I have no fucking idea what this person is saying. But now we're in a chick-think era where he gets really angry at Trump and says, damn, I'm not going to let these people go hungry on my watch. We need to stand up and then dumb people just go, oh, good. this is a chick think era situation here drew it's bad and especially california it's bad it's a it's a issue because we talked about it we went into a deep last time didn't we a couple

weeks ago yeah i know fascism all right i'll play you uh well take a break i'll take a break and then i'll play in my last masterpiece drew this episode is sponsored by better help and uh you you know, the sun is checking out early these days. It gets dark early. And that can set you up for seasonal affective disorder. It affects us more than we think. Maybe time to reach out, check in with people. And maybe you catch up with somebody that you haven't seen it in a long time and you wonder yourself, why did you let time go by before you did that? In fact, I'm doing that tonight. Same with therapy. It can be difficult to start. People have lots of preconceived notions about why they shouldn't go.

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Oh. Yes. Wow. Well, I'm delighted. Because let me be, let me be candid with you, Drew. Okay. Can I be on? I was coming next.

I can't wait. No, I was thinking about it. Your reaction to my initial Bert Reynolds' offering was so positive. And you were like, yes, of course, yes, of course, that I walked out of the, with momentum. I'm like, oh, let's do another one, right? Now, bud, pop, quiet. Go ahead. Yep. Back to the family of origin. My mom and dad would have sit there just stone face the whole time and went. And then my mom, my dad wouldn't have said anything. My dad, when it was done, he would have went, well, you want to eat now? That would have been it. And my mom would have went, I don't get

how you got Bert Reynolds to do that. And then I don't, no, no, no, no. And then there'd be that. then it'd be done, right? But here's the whole point. I would walk away and go, well, no more of that. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yes. Oh, yes, I do. I understand how that shuts people down. I would have been completely dissuaded from doing any more, but your response inspired me, Drew. I'm delighted to be that inspiration, but there's even another layer to it. I was trying to bring up when I brought this thing up, which was you called it, you coyly rolled it out as an experiment like I'm experimenting I'm like dude this is sensational why is it just an experiment you know this is a a bull's eye I did not listen but you didn't know that I would react to it

no no no no listen I am a you know comedian and a sousayer and a whatever and all comedy is is having a little bit of a crystal ball and going how is this going to be responded to in the future I'm going to say something at this dinner table is it going to get a laugh is it going to to get a groan are people going to get it whatever yeah i have feelings about stuff and my batting average is good when i have feelings and that's why like when i did the man show my bits were good because i had feelings like this'll be good this will land this will work you know but i don't know in advance i just had a feeling that this would work but i didn't know and that's why i was calling experiment this is a this is a new this is a new genre of comedy all right we'll take a break

we'll come back with another offering right after this beautiful all right so uh drew because you're the wind beneath my wings we have a third off something i never thought you'd call me you inspired me to soar like an eagle yeah all right so this is me is me talking about the homeless issue oh yeah and gab this one boy i mean this is insane. This is insane. This is the governor of the state with the biggest homeless problem in the world. We have the biggest homeless problem in the United States, for sure, maybe the world, but the United States. And this is why, because this guy thinks this is the problem or for some reason wants to focus on this. But here it goes. This notion of like the guy's a hard

working and God-fearing family member who lost his job and now had to take to the streets is total and utter bullshit. Yeah, but what about the picture of real? All right. I told him your fucking archetype of who's on the street. The guy got fired from his job or divorced or what that's not who's dying on the street. It's junkies. No.

Right. So that's what I told him. He begs to differ. He begs? He differ. Yeah. Yeah, but what about? Listen, listen to them argue with me this entire, or Jules Dash. Listen to them argue with Jules. Here we go. Streets is total and utter bullshit. Yeah, but what about the picture of real homelessness, which is a poor mom with two kids, with a husband who took off and left her, who is sitting there struggling on that minimum wage job? And all of a sudden now is out in the streets and sidewalks, desperately trying to find some help, get a life back, can't get those.

kids into child care. That's a tough thing. Yeah, that's tough, but... And that's the picture of family homelessness. No, that's a postage stamp. No. The real picture is bigger than the AIDS quilt, and those are crazy junkies. Yeah, but no, you see, I'll challenge you on this. What you're talking about is chronic homeless, which is the picture we have of homeless,

which is a relatively small percentage of folks that are homeless. Oh. Does he know? He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He doesn't know. he doesn't know anything he's worse than not knowing he's a fucking idiots

I know that's why we have a huge problem because of retards like him but people believed it for years that's the part that was driving me nuts at least now when people hear that they're like what are you kidding me? Give me a break I mean Bert Reynolds knew all those years ago

from his firebird with this state of Florida cowboy hat on, that this guy, first off, I'm bringing up junkies, and he's yelling no. Yeah. And then he's talking about the moms who are out on the sidewalk with the full-time job and the husband that left. Yeah. And I don't know, it's, it's literally it's stupefying to hear somebody speak this way.

And by the way, you can say, well, Adam, uh, come on now. This is 10, 12 years ago. Okay. It was. What was I saying? How did I know? Do you know what I mean? Yes. Yes. Listen, I, it was, it was, well, how long we've been talking about this, right? I mean, it's all, I don't know. Is anyone seen a mom with a full-time job out there? No, no. Because, because guess what? But here's the thing. There have always been tons of homeless services, tons and child care and services and houses and rehab. Forget about services. Do you know how many fucking people I talk to, how many comedians I talked to, how many folks, sort of contemporaries I talk to, I interview these people all the time. They go of a

fucking dad drank and he moved out when I was eight and we had to go live with our my mom's sister you know what I mean it's all I had to live my grandparents had my grandparents raised us because my dad my mom were alcoholics and they blah blah blah it's all it is it's one big pile of we had to move in to my sister's house it's all that it's not even services it's it's moved in with a family member, grandma. Or friend, even. I have people. Whatever. It's endless. It's endless

those stories. Yeah. And I get that's a kind of homelessness, but that is not on the streets and sidewalks, as he claims. It's not a homelessness. It's not a homelessness that we need to concern ourselves with because it's not physically out on the sidewalk. Correct.

I mean, look, I had you know, Rick Boehm came and moved in in our apartment for a month before he went to prison as an adult he was homeless but he was on our sofa it wasn't your problem he was our problem he was on my sofa Jesus Christ you know let's hear it one more time just because it's it is it's hard to wrap your mind around this thing where I'm telling him what the problem is and he is pushing back on all of it with nothing I even

You know, anyway, people get enamored with this kind of talk, even if it means nothing. Yes. All right, let's do it one more time. This notion of like the guys a hardworking and God-fearing family member who lost his job and now had to take to the streets is total and utter bullshit. Yeah, but what about the picture of real homelessness, which is a poor mom with two kids, with a husband who took off and left her, who was sitting there struggling on that minimum wage job? and all of a sudden now is out in the streets and sidewalks desperately trying to find some help get a life back can't get those kids into child care hold on pause you know what it is it's the dumb chick think era because everything is this this story is this heartstringy thing this mom

with the two kids desperate yeah oh by the way the man left yes he left her the male left the male left the male left her and now she's on the street and she's working as hard as she can and she's got these kids but she's struggling she's struggling to get those kids it's all just fucking fairy tale chick talk and we go oh okay i'm in i'm in to what this retard is saying you're i think it makes i just thought he was just manipulative and dumb but it may be premeditated Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's all, no, you just, you just go, you get a bunch of, you, you get a bunch of chicks in the room, right? And you go, yeah, you know what I'm here for. I see these women. Their man left. Their man left because they got a little bit too old. So they left for a younger woman.

And now it's just them, the kids, and the one kitten, mittens. And she's holding that kitten. And she's out on the street. And she wants to take care and feed that kitten. And the kids cry. Where's mittens? Where's mittens? Well, I'm here to fix that. You know what I mean? It's like, hey, let's just take dumb chicks and tug at their fucking heartstrings. I mean, it's like he puts his finger up and starts building the story based on how people respond to it, I guess. He built a person that doesn't exist.

Right. He took a mom who's, by the way, there are many laws in California about dads who just split. Oh. Many laws. Yes. many, many laws that all serve the mom. His wages would be garnished immediately, what have you. But the whole point is, is the dad left.

The mom is there, and she works full time. There's no charity case. She's got a full-time job. He added every layer into this thing, right? Right, but they got the kids, and she wants to take care of the kids, but she's on the sidewalk. And by the way, he raised a minimum wage to $20 an hour. So shouldn't the mom be able to provide now that she has a little? living wage. That was the plan. Yeah, but she's out on the street. So she's physically on the street

with the kids and somehow holding down a full-time job. I don't know how that works, maybe showering at the beach. And who were the kids during the day? They go to work with her, trying to find child care. She can't find it. What's going on here? I told him who the real face of homeless was. I told him who the face of homeless was, and then he created something that never has and doesn't currently exist. And then told me that, and told me that was the true face. That was a real picture. There was a, if you really listen carefully, he coined a new term in there, family homelessness, which is a brand new category.

So you can defend it on that front or something. Who knows? All right. I'll tell you, we'll dig more into this in the next show. I want more. There'll be more. all right tomorrow night i'll be in boston at the wilbur theater and then uh friday night i'll be off in buffalo to electric city doing stand-up shows there come on now say hi go to amcrow dot com for all the

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