The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2052 - Curious Minds and Clueless Leaders

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew kick things off talking about the difference between curious and clueless people before diving into Adam’s latest AI experiment — Burt Reynolds as Gavin Newsom tackling the homelessness crisis. Adam compares Newsom’s “face of homelessness” spin to saying “the real face of termites is seagulls” and even offers $5,000 to anyone who can find the photo Newsom claims exists. The guys then pivot to SNAP benefits, TikToks of people gaming the system, and wrap with Adam’s Home Depot encounter that — of course — proves his instincts were dead on.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on to get it on. Thanks to tune in. Thanks, a friend over there. Doctors, Board Certify, Ben, Best, Met Specialist. I feel like a kid waking up on Christmas.

Christmas morning. Give me more presents, Daddy. Come on now. I know. Let's see more of this, done. Well, you do enjoy or appreciate, I think, and Andrew will update our plugboard, if you don't mind. So it's interesting because most people don't give a shit, but I think this kind of stuff

is very interesting, like the concept of taking. a conversation, then breaking it into a transcript, and then illustrating things by getting other actors or other sexes to play different roles and stuff like that. Like, I find it, to me, that's why it's great to be a human being. You know what I mean? Like, you get to think of that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? And then there's lots of people, which is most people, who are just like, all right, so what?

You know what I mean? And they don't sort of appreciate it. I mean, I know it sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass. But what I'm saying is they don't. They, I am. But they don't really go, you thought of that? That's interesting. I've never heard of that before.

That's your mom and dad. Right. They just sit there and just go. Well, you got to remember that 30% of humans or people do not have internal monologues at all. Like there's no thinking going on. There's no monologue. Is that, that's shocking to me when I first like that.

I think I hang out with 100%. of those 30%, except for Andrew. He's got a monologue going. Eagles, Eagles, Eagles. Eagles. That's all he thinks. So, yeah, it's like, yeah, so people are kind of dumb.

And when you're dumb, you don't really appreciate a smart idea, I guess, is what I'm getting to. Is that, is that dumb or is that, is that just not having to abstract ever? I guess that's a kind of dumb. I grew up with these guys, and my family's all this way. They're just sort of like, huh? I don't know. Who cares? They were never curious or interested, you know, which is a really weird way to go through life

to never be curious or interested, but there's a lot, lots of them, you know. And I don't know. See, for me, the curious and interested people are the people get stuff fixed, invent stuff, get stuff done. you know what I mean sort of get to things figure them out but anyway enough about me so we were talking and there's there's more you know there's more any conversation that Gavin Newsom had where he sounded insane and that that's most of them can be used he doesn't have to be talking to me can be talking to anybody yeah right and he's all

Always so we have to mind that, that those nuggets of gold that are out there, but they're all about us. I just have to sort of think about them. And when you really get into this territory, there's a lot, it's not just Newsom, there's a lot of Nudniks out there that don't make sense. You know, imagine putting Jasmine Crockett into some other persona. Oh, yeah. No, you could have, you could, now these poor guys, you can take Kamala Harris, make her Burt Reynolds, and make Jules Dash, what's his name from the news, asking if she's been to the border. Oh, yeah. And it's going to sound like, like Bert Reynolds is going to sound insane.

Yep. Right? Yeah, just switch it for everything. Yeah. All right. So as promised, we'll play the homeless one once again just to hear. But also, why wouldn't you have a problem again, painting the picture? Forget about homelessness. You know what I mean? You go, well, look, we have a termite problem. I have a big termite problem in this house or in this neighborhood. We've got a termite problem. And I go, well, you know, then what I see? say is I go, well, you know, we need to tent these houses and get rid of these termites. And then you go, you know, the real problem are these rogue termites being dropped in by seagulls? And then I go, no, no, the real problem is the termites in the house. We need to

tent it off. We need to tent these houses. Yeah, it's these seagulls. Let me tell you the real face of termites is seagulls dropping rogue ones off into the attic. of single family homes and then okay but drew i'm in charge yeah so i go no tenting let's focus on the seagull issue well yeah why wouldn't the problem get worse oh of course the problem's gonna get better well the well of course the problem's gonna get worse because i haven't identified it i don't know what i'm talking about yeah and by the way if you keep the the whole metaphor going eventually the things collapse right so when when when When he, for the sake of argument, when I was talking to him 12 years ago, we had 20,000 homeless people, and now we have 150,000 homeless people in California.

Why? Because he didn't identify the problem. If he had said to me, you know, Adam, you're right, this drug abuse is a big issue and these mental issues are a big issue. We need to focus on that. then maybe we'd have a chance at solving it. But if we're only focusing on moms who full-time jobs that don't exist, then what chance would we have at solving the problem? Do you know what I mean? Like if you just went, look, we had Drew, you tell me the difference.

Okay, we just had fire sweep through the Palisades and Altadena and Malibu, right? Yeah. And then I go, well, look, we got to get the aqueducts filled, and we got to get the brush cleared, and we need these fire battalions stationed out during high wind warning. And I go, well, you know, the real problem is the evil wizard. This spaghetti monster. And then you go, huh? Yeah.

Spaghetti monster. And then you go, what? Evil fire warlock wizard guy. And then you go, oh, well, what about the aqueducts and clearing the brush? No, no, it's a wizard problem we're having. Well, how the hell would we stop the next fire? Of course. Of course.

All right. So wildly misinterpreting everything all the time is a way to have, you know, these immigrants come here and they're involved with less crime and they pay more and they do the jobs. Okay, well, then open the border. Let's open it up. Because they all just come here and contribute. and don't commit crime. Okay.

If you're going to misidentify everything all the time, then how is there a avenue to fix or repair? Well, and the misidentify almost gives it too much weight. You know, it suggests you're trying to look at reality. This is just inventing fantasies, inventing narratives that feel right, sound good. Yes. All right.

Well, here it is. I get right out of the blocks. And I just go, this notion of the hardworking dad who lost this job out in the street is bullshit. This notion of like the guys a hardworking and God-fearing family member who lost his job and now had to take to the streets is total and utter bullshit. Yeah, but what about the picture of real homelessness, which is a poor mom with two kids with a husband who took off and left her who is sitting there struggling on that minimum wage job? and all of a sudden now is out in the streets and sidewalks, desperately trying to find some help, get a life back, can't get those kids into child care.

That's a tough thing. Yeah, that's tough. And that's the picture of family homelessness. No, that's a postage stamp. The real picture is not a picture, it's a postage stamp. That's why they call me Ace. It's this day. Jules gets all the credit, though.

Jules Dash. It's not a picture, it's a postage stamp. maybe it exists but it's this big it's not the picture of homelessness but he disagrees true i'm not sure if he does or doesn't and bert bird is pointing that out you're not sure what that newsome even disagrees he just wants to tell his little tale he wants to get people to feel a certain way he didn't give a shit what's right yeah all right we'll continue some help get a little life back, can't get those kids into childcare. That's a tough thing. Yeah, that's tough, but...

And that's the picture of family homelessness. No, that's a postage stamp. No. The real picture is bigger than the AIDS quilt, and those are crazy junkies. Yeah, but no, you see, I'll challenge you on this. What you're talking about is chronic. By the way, he does a lot of, I'll challenge you on this. And he also does a lot of weird, like people go, he does this weird revisionist thing all the time it's it's an interesting kind of jujitsuy thing people go like listen you're you're the mayor of san francisco and things got so bad in san francisco that they replaced the old d a with yeah and i was for that yeah and then the person like stops and goes oh okay you're for the new yeah i'm for the new d a okay yeah you ruined the fucking city and you weren't for the new d a but all right other

than that great yeah he he does he has a weird thing where he jumps in yeah yeah gets ahead a little bit there and then he also and he goes I'm going to push back on that a little bit respectfully and it's like oh this guy's thoughtful he has thoughts except for the retarded thoughts but also once again if the populace is going to be that fucking dumb you go to dodger stadium you order nachos what do you get you get you get orange goo from a fucking pump kettle. It's just a bunch of fucking orange dye number 17 mixed with a bunch of shit that's left over from fracking.

And it's just on your shitty stale chips. And who loves them? All the dumb shits that go to Dodger Stadium. So you're going to argue with them because they're voting. See what I'm saying? Oh, I listen. But I think, again, I think as we talked about yesterday, people are waking up. I mean, there's a, the COVID did us some favors.

COVID. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what shook everybody into, certainly myself, into some sort of awakening. I don't know how much more I could have pointed out to him. I told him these were junkies. Yeah. All right.

Let's continue. Yeah, but no, you see, I'll challenge you on this. What you're talking about is chronic homeless, which is the picture we have of homeless, which is a relatively small percentage of folks that are homeless. It's a small percentage. percentage. The junkies, the junkies with the mental disorders is a small percentage of what we're talking about. Yes. So it's unbelievable. Here's a challenge. I will give $5,000 to anyone who can scour the streets of Los Angeles and find me a mom with a full-time job. With kids.

With kids. Yeah. whose old man took off and now they're just walking the sidewalks. Who's not also on meth? We're not in their drug. Right, right, right. Does that person? No, it does not exist. Now, I don't know why people don't want to challenge you more on this stuff, but it's,

it becomes a kind of tacit agreement, which is if you start pushing back, then he's not coming on your show, and then you end up with softball shit, and then, you know, here we, here we go. sometimes i stopped talking just to see how long we'll i thought we were going to do to bert more burt oh no no bert bert we've run through oh i thought there was more to it i'm sorry well listen we you know we can only get so much done around here okay all right well there's there's more to change there'll be more to come do not good do not worry keep me excited now the the The border one, that's 30 seconds long.

So that we can, that we can probably crap out. But yes, go ahead. But yeah. So, so, um, the other thing that got people all excited last week that you had commented on was the SNAP recipients being overweight, essentially. And for that, you're supposed to rot in hell for saying, not, yeah, yeah, yeah, not because it's inaccurate, but you need to rot in hell for sale. Now, I didn't even hear that.

Everyone can suck my dick, by the way. I know what's right. I always know what's right. Well, but let's try to be as charitable as possible. I'm going to push back on you a little bit. Well, we can find, Andrew has a clip of the Snap family wants to know what. It's so confusing. She wants to know what's going on with the kids, her kids, I guess, and everyone is fat.

And I'll show you the clip. But yeah, go ahead. We'll be charitable. Well, being charitable, I mean, there's a lot of things here that are different issues. You know, one is the content of the snap food that's being ingested is shit. Obviously, that's what they're fat and too much. And then 40 million people, 40 million people are in that kind of trouble in this country. Don't we need to get to the root cause of that and understand what's going on here?

And then it's going to be interesting to see, I mean, aren't we now right now where people aren't getting these SNAP products as recipients and nobody's starving that I can see. No one's, listen, nobody is going to starve just like no mother of two with a full-time job is going to be on the streets unless there's something severely wrong. But is that because they get a job or is that because the sort of the old-fashioned way, the churches and the community step in the way they always did? Let me tell you something, Drew. Okay.

I come from a family where there was just no food all the fucking time. And food stamps. You would have been a snap family. My mom would have been a snap and we would have been a snap. Yes. Minus the snap. We weren't on food stamps all the time, maybe a few years. I would go to my friend's house and eat all the time, all the time.

I was also in the school lunch program. You know, they did breakfast and lunch. There's programs. There's also churches. We'd go to like spaghetti night at the church. Right. But you know what the really, you know what the reality of it was that I learned? Hmm.

I remember very clearly when I would say to my mom constantly, there's nothing to eat. There's nothing to eat in this house. And she'd go, if you're hungry, you'll eat. And she really just meant it. Like go boil a pot of water and put 50 cents worth of spaghetti in it and just don't. dump cold sauce onto it and just eat out of the pot. Like, that's what we would do. I bet you would eat.

I mean, you would, I would walk around the neighborhood and pick plums and nectarines and apricots and something should bring them home and eat them, you know? Like, I would just scrounge. I would go to Henry's tacos and get broken taco shells and taco sauce and just sit on the bench and eat that. Like, I learned you will eat, you can eat, you will eat. you will eat you no one is going to expire nobody well and and the homeless managed to find ways to eat you can eat you can eat easily in l.A. on five dollars a day I mean you can eat a lot right

yeah I mean basically what I've been saying is is if you okay let's let's let's let's break it down couple things once again hobby lobby is not denying you access to birth control or health care. You can provide it for yourself. They're not buying it for you, which is not denied access because if that was denied access, then I would be denied access of plane tickets and a mortgage and car insurance and lunch. I would be denied access for everything because no one buys me anything. Right? Right. I'm going to go to the, I'll go to the Home Depot and buy sheet of plywood. Am I being denied access to it or this Home Depot not giving me plywood? Right.

Okay. There's a Home Depot. You can get plywood, but you have to buy it. So this thing of denying people access to soda or whatever it is, you can drink all the fucking soda you want as long as you buy it. I don't want to subsidize your soda addiction because it's bad for you. and you have diabetes and you're more than obese already, and I don't want to pay for it. And by the way, you shouldn't want me to pay for it. Right. You should use my money, since you're hungry,

to buy rice and beans and cabbage and apples and things that are in beef and chicken and things that are good for you. But we all know you can make a huge pot of rice and beans with some ground beef in it, cut up an onion, and whatever. The fucking shit is a 80-cent. a serving, maybe. Like, it's nothing. You can do it. Now, you can't eat at McDonald's or jack in the box. I don't want to pay for that. It's bad for you. So there will be a thing, and this thing will

purchase you the minimum sort of necessities you need for sustenance. And if you want to go beyond that, you want crab legs. You won't be denied access to crab legs, but you'll have to purchase that yourself. So speaking of plywood and Home Depot, do you want to quickly tell the story about things not working? That is Andrew's favorite story. I know. I figured since Andrew's here, we could share in our joy of that one. It's one of my favorite, too, by the way. I will, I will, do we take a break yet, Andrew? Or should we take a break? We'll take a quick break. Come back with that story right after this. According to the National Institute of Health, around 30 million men in the U.S. experienced some form of erectile dysfunction. And, well, as you get older,

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I mean morbidly obese. The dad, the mom, and the kid. We're all fat. Look, I'm sorry if people don't want me to bring that up, but fuck yourself. These people are unhealthy and they're fat. Something is going wrong. You're not supposed to be dying of malnutrition and a fucking tub allard at the same time. You're not supposed to be that.

Historically, you never were. It's not how it works. So you're doing something wrong. Either we shouldn't be giving you money or we should give you money, but you shouldn't be spending it on what you're spending it on. and by the way this isn't for me it's for you and everybody who then wants to say there's malnourished obese yes yes of course but the it's still the same point i don't know how many well there's improperly nourished i guess obese i'll play i'll play her this thing and it's the mom

again everyone is fat but we'll we'll play it for you she also been she doesn't know how she got kids have ever been to the food bank before no we never have This is your first time here. Correct. Are you scared? Well, highly afraid because, I mean, we didn't ask for these kids to come and what are we going to do? Then we have them. We have to take care of them.

We have to find a way. And it's hard right now with everything that's going on. People are even afraid to come out of their houses to work. It's really bad. You can pause it there. I think she's not about ice, no? She's talking about food. I don't know.

She's, look, the kid's fat. She's fat. The dad's fat. Everyone's fat. Okay. figure it out good job eat healthy education that's all i don't know why people are mad at me but they don't like the truth they get angry at the truth i found out they didn't like you even talking about peanut butter that you went to somebody's house and asked for peanut butter because

you were scrounging for food and they said no they didn't like that kids alerted yeah listen everyone you're going to have a very difficult time talking me out of my ideas But it's only because of my batting average. And it's only because I know I'm right. You can hit me with all your retarded notions all day fucking long until the cows come home. I'm not going to question my own. Fat people need to thin out. They're eating shit.

They should know better. And I'm not going to subsidize it. And, you know, look, you can go back to Huff Po attacking me about lunches and kids and whatever it was. So be it. I don't, I'm impervious. to your retarded feelings, everybody. You should know that. Unless I do something wrong and then I'll own up to it.

But this is not that. All right. So the Home Depot, Drew. Yes. Drew found this story interesting. Andrew found it interesting. And I was talking to Andrew. Now, I was talking to Drew when Andrew, I think he'd text it.

texted me a picture. So Drew hasn't seen any pictures. Drew's, no, no, I've seen you show me the picture. You sent it to me. Oh, I sent you that one picture. I didn't send you the other picture, the first picture. Yeah. Maybe Andrew can explain what went on, so I don't know. Well, that's kind of what I want to hear. I want to hear Andrew's version of it. Go ahead. Okay, so we were in line at Home Depot, just checking out after picking up a sona tube for one Adams' projects. The cart ahead of them is a young lady with plywood.

Not young, but 40. 40. Right. Yeah. Just a smattering of equipment cut plywood. Just stuff that kind of hit Adams' antenna pretty hard.

The first thing he said was whatever she's building, it's not going to work. and I was like yeah a high percentage choice of that happening and then as we progressed into no there isn't a high percentage choice of that happening I wouldn't say that about anyone at Home Depot I never said that before no no but your your assessment

that it probably wouldn't work out yeah I just whatever she was building wasn't going to work yeah yeah yeah so anyway as we uh no I was talking about your conjecture, not the people at Humpty Bell. No, as we walked into the parking lot, that hypothesis quickly shift into, she's not going to be able to fit it into her car. And I believe you were like, it's whatever 92 sob she has,

it's not going to go into the back of this car. It then turned into a, you got to film this girl. And I was like, all right, we can't do that. That wouldn't be a good thing. There's a tremendous downside. So we surreptitiously filmed the back of the car where the plywood. I sent Drew the still of the plywood trying to make it into the back of the car.

But I didn't send him, I didn't send him the initial one, which was just her cart. In line, yeah. Yeah, and her cart just had cut plywood and dowels. Give me 30 seconds. I'm going to grab the hard drive. And what I like is. And that was enough for me. It's your 100,000 hours at Home Depot that gives you the wisdom to go,

I don't know what that woman's doing, but it's not going to work. And you have never said that before, but you just know when you see it. Yes. I don't know what I was putting together in my mind because it's not really conscious. It's like when Mike and I were driving back from Bakersfield at 2 in the morning, and I just told him, get away from this car. Yes. and I wasn't calculating everything other than he needed to get away from the car.

Yes. And then the tire blew out and the car swerved violently. But not two minutes later, two seconds later. Like we saw it swerve. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I have to deal with, this is what people don't get about medicine. That's what you want from your doctor.

You want that instinct, the wisdom. You have to go, oh, this is not going to be good. Yeah. And you can't really, it's a whole, it's a wholism. Yeah, it's a holism. Taking all the information. It's all of it. It's her.

It's how she dress. It's what time was it. It's, for me, it was that she had to get this plywood pre-cut. Yeah. That she couldn't cut it herself or she didn't have the ability to cut it herself or she didn't own a truck to take it home to get, she had a cut in the back. By the way, I didn't see them cut her plywood. I saw an odd shape size of plywood, but that's the experience.

Plywood is four foot by eight foot, not four foot by five foot. They don't sell four foot by five foot. Ever, that's just the beginning of the observations that I would not be. Right. And the shelves that they cut out of the plywood were cut out of the same sheet of plywood. So she didn't buy the shelves. She bought this stuff. She bought a piece of plywood and had them cut it up in the back, which I assess.

while saying, no, by the way, I wasn't paying attention. I was just standing there. But heads always on a swivel. So here's the, here's the, is her cart we're looking at? That's her cart and her cart has dowels, meaning. God, I would not have any idea what that was all about. She's making some sort of cabinet to hang clothing. I see, yes, yes, the dowels.

That's what I was assuming. Right. She had them cut this stuff up out of a piece of what is maybe an oak ply and there's four dows and there's two or three shelves and then what's left of the ply after they ripped it up. And then I told, well, what it is, here's what it is. it's a four by eight sheet of ply with three cross cuts all at one foot which are making it a four by five piece of of plywood now and that's what's left so um i told andrew to film it because something wasn't going to work right and i tell people all the time you know i should just go up to people and go, listen, you don't know me, but this is not going to work. Now, if you want to pay me, I will come with you and I will make it work. Now, does that just apply to carpentry or could

we talk about life in general? Oh, I could, you know, the homeless problem, I could have cured many years ago here. And so then we started walking out in the parking lot and I was sure this was going to be an issue and sure enough we found her and she could not get the plywood in her in her car because it was far too wide which I knew from in see here's what I knew Drew she was having the Home Depot cut the plywood right so that meant she didn't have a truck yeah but the sheet that was let the piece that was left behind was too big for a car yes so i knew there's going to be issues and so as we drove through the parking lot i told and i andrew to film out the window and when we got to her stop and when we got to her she was there it is

inside of the car making a phone call so she was calling someone to truck to pick it up because it wouldn't fit in the back of the car. But Andrew was astounded, by the way. Now, no one else cares, except for you, Drew. Yeah. But I've got to tell you, Andrew, he treated me like the Lion King for the rest of the day. Well, that's good. He's coming towards his awakening.

He experienced this in real time. It was like in Shawshank Redemption after Andy got everybody beers on the roof with the guard. It was really, yeah, it was very impressive. It was very impressive that I knew what was happening. Now, Drew, people mistake this for clairvoyance. It is not. I tell people all this time. They go, how do you know?

How did you know? Quite a coincidence. I go, no coincidence. Just wisdom. Just experience. Maybe wisdom is too challenging a word for people. It's experience. Yeah, it's experience.

Yes, lots of experience. All right, tonight, Buffalo, Electric City, doing stand-up there. You can go to Amcrow.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Drew? Doctor.com and check out Tuesday, Rumble and X. Ask Dr. Drew. So, until next time, Amcrow with Dr. Stah, Mahalo. This November, action is free on Pluto TV.

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