The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2060 - Escaping Victimhood with Leland Vittert

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Leland Vittert joins Adam and Dr. Drew to share the story behind his autism diagnosis, his father quitting his job to coach him through the world, and the practical tools that helped him navi...gate social situations. They dig into the culture of “victimhood,” compare it to addiction, and touch on similar parenting stories before cutting away to Burt Reynolds AI bits, a press conference on new hair “crown” laws, and a clip of Trump talking about building a ballroom.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 We're going to mandate you get it on. Dr. Drew over there is Board Certified Judd Dixon Medicine Specialist. That's me, man. We're going to talk about Bert Reynolds. We're going to talk about carjacking. Or we're going to talk about Layland Vitter today. I think it was going to switch over to Layland. How about that?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, let's do that. So Layland's book is Born Lucky, a dedicated father, a grateful son, and my journey with autism. Layland is at first at Fox News and now is at News Nation where he's an anchor. And I would call you a friend, Layland. Is that overreaching my boundaries? No, not at all. I'm honored to be in that category. By the way, I think I've been saying Leland.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Is it Leland or Leland? I heard it both ways. Which is it for you? You know, I answered it either, and that's the nicest thing anybody's called me all day. But it's it, shouldn't we? It's actually Leland, which comes from in the lee of the shore. It's named after a small, small town in northern Michigan. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Dr. Drew calls himself a friend, but it can't pronounce your damn name. All right. I'm going to Leland. It's also I wasn't my own self-aware enough to be listening to what I said. I listened. So, thank you. All right. So let's talk.
Starting point is 00:03:27 about the subject. You're going to like this, Adam. Okay. Yeah. Adam is going to be a big fan of your dad, Leeland. And tell the story, basically, you know, this, because he was in trouble with his condition. And you would never. Leeland was in trouble.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Leeland was in trouble. With autism. Yeah. Wow. I would never think that. You would never think that. That's right. Go ahead, Leeland.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Well, in that case, you guys probably don't know me very well. Dr. Drew would have thought that he could have diagnosed me in five minutes. No, when I was about eight years of. old, my parents were told they needed to have me evaluated, which is the worst thing any parent can hear. So they took me to one of those medical office buildings with linoleum floors and bad lighting, old magazines, stale coffee. We've all been there. They waited a couple of hours. The woman brought me back and said, this kid's got serious, serious problems at eight years old. Behavior issues. Forget any kind of birthday parties or play dates. If somebody touches him when he's
Starting point is 00:04:27 sitting in his desk, in line at school, at lunch, on the playground, he turns around and slugs him. Number one. Number two, sensory issues. So anything on my legs I didn't like, socks, a jacket I didn't like, I would melt down, it would end the day. And then learning disability. So an IQ test is two halves of a score. And those two scores are averaged together to give you your IQ. A 20-point spread between the two halves of the IQ test is a learning disability. I had a 70-point spread, so I was mentally retarded in some ways and genius and others. And they said at the time, they said, we've never seen a spread like this. So the woman says to my dad, you know, kids got all these issues.
Starting point is 00:05:10 There's not much you can do about it. My dad goes, is there anything I can do about it? And the woman says generally not. My dad at the time was 43 years old. He had been a very successful entrepreneur. He was used to sort of bending the world to his way and the idea that his son would really not be able to function in the real world as he was was completely unacceptable to him. So he said at the time, I'm going to quit my job and I'm going to try and adapt my son to the
Starting point is 00:05:38 world rather than the world to my son. So born lucky is hope for every parent of a kid having a hard time, whether it be with autism like I had or ADHD, anxiety, bullying, the difficulties of growing up, all of those issues. It's interesting, right? Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I, you know, I go back to Brad Williams, comedian. Yes, it's another good point. Dwarf, and his dad... How dare you? It was a midget, little person.
Starting point is 00:06:08 His dad was, I don't know if he was an engineer or what he did, but he just told him, look, I'm not going to set up a life for you where stuff is down on your level. You're going to have to come up and get it. So get used to it, because that's what life is. and, you know, the cereal box is going to be in the cupboard. And you're going to have to hop up on the counter and pull it down every day. I'm not going to do a lower cupboard for you because life's not going to provide a lower cupboard for you. And it just got him, you know, can do.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He just went like, I will adapt, I will overcome. And I believe, and I've screamed this from the mountaintop for 30 years, we are killing people with all the victimization stuff and you poor thing and sit down and all the weird caretaking. And I see it, like you see it with a kid. When a kid, seven-year-old kid falls down, skins their knee, when, you know, they'll be, oh, my knee. And then the mom will come by and like, oh, my God, oh, are you okay, oh, you okay, and they start crying harder versus a, hey, get up. Let's get that cleaned up. We're going to keep practicing.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Here we go. Resilience. Right. Now, what we don't understand is you think the mom is being nice by doing this and that the dad is being mean by saying, get up. Let's walk it off. You're fine. Let me look at it. You'll live.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Here we go. But it's exactly 100% with the kid needs. And we're doing it with whole races and women. and women of color and fat people and stuff. We're just telling them they're victims. They don't need to try. They're living in a world that is against them, and the world needs to turn around,
Starting point is 00:08:01 and the world will never turn around. It can't. That's not the way it's set up, and it's not going to and it has no intention of it. And then every once in a while, they vote in some idiot like Biden, and he explains, oh, no, I'm going to turn this all around, black people.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm going to turn it all around, lesbians and gays and fat women and I'm going to turn it and it never do because they can't because it's not broken right now there's nothing to turn around the ultimate example to me is addiction where we go well just give them they want to live that life they're just give them the drugs right and and which the really interesting thing is which is harder handing them the rig and the heroin or staying with them while they're in withdrawal and getting them through it well coaching them up and dealing with their misery, you know. But not only that, you get to do nothing and be called a hero versus do the hard work
Starting point is 00:08:53 and be called an asshole. Right, because it's tough, it's uncomfortable. Sorry, Leland. I always say, you guys don't need me, and that's perfectly okay. But you said, Adam, I think the most important word, there was two things that picked up on. One, victimhood, the born lucky story, right, is that you are not a victim. That was my dad's line over and over. you are not a victim.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Doesn't matter that the art teacher in eighth grade when didn't think I was going to become Picasso said in front of the entire class to me, hey, Vittert, if my dog was as ugly as you, I would shave its ass and make it walk backwards. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's a good teacher there. A good teacher. We need more of those back. Right, but you know, victimhood is as addictive as fentanyl. I think Dr. Drew would agree with me on that. It's worse. It's more destructive than fentanyl. And I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I'll tell you why, because you could probably get 0.001% of people addicted to fentanyl, quiet. You can get 63% of society addicted to being a victim. Then you haven't had good fentanyl, okay? You could talk, I mean, my thing with like black societies, I'm like, will you guys start speaking up? This is insulting. You should be insulting. They're starting to. But yeah, just now, just barely.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But, I mean, you can get large swathes of groups, whereas you can't get people strung out on fentanyl. You can get a very small amount strung out on fentanyl, thankfully. But you can get whole groups strung out on victimhood. Yeah. So we found. I mean, literally, women are more than 50% of our society. and I would say at least 35% of the more than 50% of our society believes that they're being held back in some way because they're a woman.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It doesn't help to have Michelle Obama get up there and talk about not being ready for a female president or lead, follow a woman or any, you know, the hustlers, it doesn't help with the hustlers, hugely destructive. Very destructive. And what I would add to that, the difference, and this goes to what Dr. Drew said, it is much harder to do. my dad did, right, which is my dad did said, I'm not going to take the adversity away, right? The easiest thing to use your example, the easiest thing in the world to do is to build the kid a cupboard at his level down on the floor for the cereal. Dad said, look, I am going to hold your hand through the adversity. We're going to walk through this together.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And that is why I think the born lucky story has totally changed from just being a book about autism to being a book about parenting. And look, nobody tells parents anymore, to your point. Nobody says you have the power to do this. You have the power to help your kid be more. They all say, put your kid in the box. He's special. Go ahead and bubble wrap him and just sort of let him be him. Well, you need the experts. You need the teachers unions and you need the counselors and you need everybody. And we need their money. We'll take the money and then we'll just, and by the way, drop your kid off and don't start asking questions about what we're teaching them. Or what we're doing with your kid.
Starting point is 00:12:11 We'll tell you what we're doing with them or not. Right. Yeah. There's an interesting sort of correlate here, though, in terms of the Brad Williams' dad and the Leland dad. Leland. Did I say Leland again? Jesus. Leland dead.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Shits check that brain for holes. I know. I'm sure they're there. Hold on. I just saw moth crawled out of your ear. So it could be a situation. So, you know, I've always had that difficulty hearing what I'm. I'm saying, you know, used to yell at me about that long time.
Starting point is 00:12:43 There's a gene. Mike August has that gene. Yeah. They just mispronounce every single person's name. Yeah, yeah. It's, by the way, if it was a coin, you'd be right half the time. Right. There's something wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:53 That's right. Yeah. Oh, by the way, just a sidebar, Leland. You'll enjoy this. Mike was a guy I work with. Doesn't like to be wrong. Mike was mispronouncing Ralph Lauren's name. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 saying Ralph Loran. I told you this. He's saying Ralph Loran. And I kept saying, Mike, it's not Ralph Lauren. It's Ralph Lauren. It's a name. By the way, it's my sister's name. It's El-Laureen.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He said Laurent. Ralph Laurent. And he goes, it's not even his real name. His real name is Lipschelts. I go, yeah. So it's a made-up name. I go, okay. He goes, so I can pronounce it however I want.
Starting point is 00:13:34 It's good. Okay, Mike, the Flintstones. The Flintstones are made-up name. There's lots of made-up names. Her name is Wilma. Not Vilma. The show is a made-up title. There is no family called the Flintstones, but yet we pronounce it one way.
Starting point is 00:13:54 All right. Sorry. So Brad's dad heated things up a little further, and I don't want to say he was mean about this, but he made fun of Brad. He threw obstacles up, and then sort of made fun of him. and actually generated this, you know, this comedic instinct he has by kind of. Well, I want to know what the process was with your dad. That's what I know. You sounded so far down the spectrum, and now you seem so well put together that that had to be quite a journey.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And then what are the implications of that journey, that this could be done with everybody? Yeah, I don't think born lucky is how to. turn your artistic kid into a TV anchor, right? That may be a bridge too far. It's not a prescription or a cure. It's just the power of parental love. And my dad on an hourly basis was trying to coach me to adapt to the world and to see the world and to understand the social interaction the way you guys do and to let you guys joke, for example, rather than try to interrupt and get in there. But the most basic thing was is he would take me out. for lunch with his friends. I had no friends. And I, you know, was eight, nine, 10 years old. I never
Starting point is 00:15:13 had a play date or anything. So the weekends, he would take me to lunch with his friends. And if we were out with Dr. Drew, I'd be bugging Dr. Drew about medicine and about how he sees his patients and what is addiction and what's more addictive alcohol or heroin and on and on and on. And my dad would tap his watch. And that was my cue, number one, to be quiet, not by embarrassing me, but just by sort of showing, you know, a signal that we only knew together. But then afterwards, we would post-game of, okay, you know, you were interrupting Dr. Drew when he was talking about, you know, his weekend plans, and you were bugging about this and this and this, what could you have asked him that he would have been interested in?
Starting point is 00:15:52 And then we would roleplay the conversations. So it was really making it clear to me that I was, I was weird. I was different. And the way I saw the world required me to adapt, right? The world wasn't going to adapt to me. And he would say that over and over. The other thing he said to me is, you know, you're not funny to me, which I've learned now not to try to be funny even when I'm around two guys who are hilarious.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Well, I think, you're funny or no. I think you're funny. You've had a few. You've got a couple singers in. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. Like there are people that try to interject comedy unsuccessfully over and over again
Starting point is 00:16:40 and never seem to really understand that it's not being received very well. And I would argue Leland has paid attention and that's why he's able to bring up some zingers now as opposed to rolling along. Well, it's true that you listen and you listen well and that is a rare commodity. the listening part, and that was probably a training. I don't think people's default setting is listening. No, God, no. And we think it is because your default setting is hearing. Like, hey, is there construction going on across the street?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yes, I hear that. The person is talking. Yes, I can hear it. Yeah, but you are not listening. How about me saying Layland 50 times? Real. It's not listening. What about the Eric Clapton song, Leela?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Even I don't do that one. Okay. All right. All right. Yes, you are a listener and listening is training and it's quiet and it's invisible and people don't even use it as a, it's not even considered a positive. You know, they go, that guy's a great orator. He turns a phrase. is that guy talks a mile minutes, all sort of the praise is all on the talking.
Starting point is 00:18:00 No one gives a bunch of kudos to listening. Yeah, yeah. But, man, listening is the, listening is the foundation of thought. Oh, for sure. There's one other thing, though, here that's kind of interesting to me, Lee. I do this sniff. I'll join you. But it is something I always tell parents, which is, it's not for all situations,
Starting point is 00:18:24 but a lot of situations are highly treatable, highly treatable. But what makes a difference between a good outcome and a not so good outcome is the child's willing to participate, the willingness. And you clearly, maybe you weren't, but if you weren't, A, how did he get you to willingness? And how do we bottle that piece of this? Because without the willingness, you're not where you are right now. Yeah, it's a great question. And there's this scene in Born Lucky, right, where the woman who diagnosed me says to my dad,
Starting point is 00:19:00 you know, if there's going to be any hope, he has to want it, right? Meaning I have to want it. And that's true, right, of people who have addiction issues. Yes, yes. They have to want to get better. No, it's everything. Yeah, I, sorry for that. But I think there's another component here.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's not just your dad, it's your mom. because I will tell you that I would have, as your dad, tried to implement these things. You would have protested as an eight-year-old, and the mom would have rushed in and told me to back off and listen to the experts. And I would have gotten sidelined because the kid would have figured out that there was a sympathetic mom because the kid did not want to go through the drills and the work. This is Adam's new book. Adam Corle, a COVID-19 story. Right. So once the mom joined in and took the kid's side, then the dad's job would essentially be Nolan Void because it'd be impossible. And by the way, if you didn't want to go to the lunch with the business leaders, then this dad would go, come on, it's Saturday, it's new.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Then you'd go to the mom, and the mom, you'd stand behind the mom, and the mom would go, do you see how upset he is? And then the process would end. So your mom had to play a role in this at least by greenlighting it and not getting in the way. Yeah, that's very true. You know, look, and my dad was having me do 200 pushups a day, five days a week, because he wanted to try to teach me self-esteem, that self-esteem is earned, not given. I kind of didn't have a choice, though, because I realized, you know, I wasn't going to have any friends. my dad was my only friend.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You would have had a choice if your mom walked in the room when you were doing the push-ups and started yelling at your dad to knock it off. That's true. That's what I'm saying. A thousand percent. And look, you know, my mom also walked through this too. My dad would be in my room every night after I would just be humiliated and beaten and up at school and isolated in that emotional torture I would go through every day.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And my dad would end up in the living room by himself at midnight at 1 a.m. and start crying. And my mom would come out and find them. So, you know, she was walking that path of adversity. I think the best part of Born Lucky, I know Dr. Drew's looked at this, but the afterwards written by my dad, and it's the four pages of his advice to parents, to every parent of a kid having a hard time right now that really gives them hope. And most importantly, proves they're not alone. You know, Dr. Drew and I talked a couple of weeks ago about, about Born Lucky about the book. I've heard from hundreds of parents about their own story. and how they're not alone.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Dr. Drew will like this. One of the parents I heard from was somebody who had a kid with a peanut allergy. Because everybody wanted them to put them in the peanut safe zone. And this mom said, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to desensitize my kid to peanuts and let them live their own life. And now the kid is a varsity athlete in Ivy League school. He's in Army ROTC. None of that would have happened if she hadn't said, no, my kid can be more.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I'm not listening to the experts. Well, well, we're getting back to. what I always my answer diet and exercise just and I'm not talking about physical fitness I'm just saying the philosophy of grandpa new best all the medications and all the new wave everything and all the experts and all the junk it's just diet and exercise by the way the new wave is exposure therapy well that's the newest of the new wave let me give the book a plug before we take our break and say goodbye to Leland uh born lucky a dedicated father, grateful son, and my journey with autism.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Available now. It's available now, wherever you find finer books. And I believe this stuff's real important, and the timing couldn't be better, either, Leland. Yeah, well done, my friend. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. Good to talk to you. Good to talk to you.
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Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah, truly. I wish I wasn't right about everything all the time. I asked you that about a week ago. I said, do you ever get tired of being right about it? You know what it's like? It's like having a super big dick. People worship you, but it's a burden. It's a burden.
Starting point is 00:25:32 You know? Because I can't have normal relations. You know what I mean? I'm listening. It's a burden. But yet it's worshipped. and it's praised and the internet loves it
Starting point is 00:25:47 but it's a burden to go through life that way. It interferes with so much so much you understand that's what this is or it could be both we don't know maybe you have a super big maybe it's both need to hear more about that all right that's why you take the burden
Starting point is 00:26:07 of being right so well because I'm burdened all right and pre-groynally burdened. All right. Now, I promise a little more Burt Reynolds. Okay, okay. Now, I got a screen here that's talking about Michelle Obama hair, but we already played that one for you.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Did I hear that one? I'm positive, you heard that one. Although, you know, this thing's aged like fine. Why? Kara Swisher, I think you heard. What was her thing? Newsome cleaning up the town. No, I don't think I heard that one.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Well, it's only about 10 seconds long But yes, Andrew, you must tag these things And keep track of them Because definitely Michelle Obama we played You know why? Because you said you felt some I went through them with Drew before the show He's...
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah, but that's Drew. Yeah, he doesn't trust me. Well, no, you say Michelle Obama's hair And Drew goes, no, I haven't heard of that And then we play it for him and then Drew goes, oh, yeah, I remember hearing Michelle Obama do it. I don't remember hearing Bert do it. No, I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Because you announced that you had a little sympathy and a little compassion for Michelle Obama, and then when we're done playing it, you announce you no longer have that. No, yeah, with Bert. And that's how I know we played it for you. That's true. But you don't know that. Yep. Well, we'll play it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Now we'll just play it anyway. Why not? It's so good. That's good. Oh, we'll figure out that. You'll play Michelle Obama first. Let me explain something to white people. Our hair comes out of our head naturally in a curly pattern,
Starting point is 00:27:47 so when we're straightening it, to follow your beauty standards, we are trapped by the straightness. That's why so many of us can't swim, and we run away from the water. People won't go to the gym because we're trying to keep our hair straight for y'all. It is exhausting, and it's so expensive, and it takes up so much time. Braids are for y'all So we can work harder And focus on the work
Starting point is 00:28:12 So why do we need an act An act of law To tell white folks to get out of our hair Don't tell me how to wear my hair Don't wonder about it Don't touch it, just don't Yeah that that It became obnoxious
Starting point is 00:28:28 With Bert saying it She seems like a bad person Act of law They're talking about creating a law To keep They passed the law you didn't hear about that last week no um they passed it in
Starting point is 00:28:44 shit Chicago Portland I don't know one of the usual suspect places where's that law it was called the Crown Act okay you're not allowed to discriminate against oh at Pennsylvania yeah yeah well here's what it is you understand what the game is here's the game the game is there is no racism anymore and Not in any discernible, countable, not in any way that would have any impact on anybody, of any race, whatever you are.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's gone. We don't have it anymore. So then what you do is then I would have a press conference, right? And then I would get up there and I would go, you know, I'm going to put forward some legislation that says red-haired guys are no longer allowed to spit on black women when they're walking down the sidewalk. And then you go, what? How often do you beat your wife? Yeah, right, right. This is the, by the way, this is the NFL and racism in every end zone.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, yeah. Right? And you go, what? Well, evidently, there's a problem. You have to talk about white supremacy being the biggest problem in this country. That's all Joe Biden did. And then what you have to do is you have to get the people who work for you. Hey, turns out the head of the FBI said white supremacy.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, you mean the guy works for you? The saying the same retarded shit you're saying, even though there's never any examples. And then you're going to have to find examples. Look at that guy who was praying in front of the abortion center. Okay, white supremacist. Right, right. So then we're going to create this.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And now we're going to continue to agitate our constituency because we're going to make them think that there's the necessity for a law about how black people can wear their hair because evidently there's such rabid discrimination against the way black people wear their hair. I feel like I see black people. people wear their hair, everything from clean shaven to extensions that go down past their waist and working at the airport. I don't, by the way, there is an element of that shit could get caught in the luggage conveyor. Like, your shit can't be three feet long and swinging around.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It's going to get sucked in to a mechanical device or something. You know what I mean? You're operating a golf cart and your hair's dragging on the ground. It's going to get run over by the rear wheels. Like, there is, at a certain point, like, you can't sit around and operate a drill press all day with hair around your waist. You know what I'm saying? So there's like, it's getting in the food at a certain point that you're serving. But, oh, we'll play the clip. But yes, this is Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania. The point is, is they create something.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And then Michelle Obama gets up there and talks about it. And then there's legislation. and then my mom would watch this and she'd look at me and she'd go, see? It's still a long way to go. Right? Because you guys invented something that doesn't exist. Like when Biden was talking about
Starting point is 00:31:41 extra knee room for black people and people of color on airplanes and stuff. It's like my mom would go, see? But he's making it up. Yes. See, the difference is, is I don't want to live in a racist world and he wants to live in a racist world.
Starting point is 00:32:00 this world. How long can you do that before it sounds? This is what I keep asking. I ask Whoopi Goldberg. Ask Michelle Obama. Ask Oprah. Ask LeBron James. Ask them how long they want to keep this going. New generations come in. And to them, it sounds old-fashioned. It's not their lived experience. Maybe. All right. It's not Michelle Obama's lived experience either. But here we go. Today, when I sign the Crown Act into law, that will be the next step in making good on that promise of bringing about real freedom for all Pennsylvanians. This public policy campaign is my brain. Real freedom. In a nationwide effort, I have led since 2018, determining it was necessary to change the law to help redress the longstanding
Starting point is 00:32:59 and problematic practice of racial discrimination in the form of hair discrimination. I subsequently developed the national legislative, social impact, and coalition building strategies. We've got to get more women of color and positions of power. Because this is what they do. The filling of the dams and the reservoirs, the clearing of the brush, and the safety inspections on the bridges is not really their bailiwick. They like this shit. This is what they do.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So you get more people in positions of power and you get more emphasis on this and a little emphasis, less emphasis on infrastructure because they're in Ghana attending ceremonies. Instead of clearing brush, because clearing brush is super boring, Drew. They would be awesome if they actually did the governing and then did this. That'd be awesome. This is their governing. I know it's the problem. All right, go ahead. So, legislative, social impact, and coalition building strategies for this movement.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Because for too long, a myopic notion of professionalism and Eurocentric standards of beauty have perpetuated racial inequity and exclusion. Too many black children have been suspended and missed what should be valuable instruction time because their hair worn in ways that are aligned with their racial identity have been deemed a violation of school rules. I am a child growing up in the Virgin Islands with natural hair. Natural hair has been braids, twists, locks all my life. That's all I know. That's all I know. As you know, I still have lots. But wearing my natural hair has been all that I know.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But as I opened my salon and spoke to different clients. Hold on. I just got to show up at every fucking town hall and go, hey, bitches, can we talk about something? Just something, just anything. Ear waxing on about your fucking hair for 20 fucking minutes. Meanwhile, there's graffiti, there's crime, there's infrastructure. I got my fucking catalytic converter stolen.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I'm writing angry letter to Toyota. Can we do something? Because right now, we're not doing anything. We're talking about your fucking hair. It actually makes me sad. It does? Yeah. For the people who live in this town or them?
Starting point is 00:35:25 The whole situation makes me sad. Like, good, oh, good, yes. Oh, you're doing these good things. I'm so happy for you. But in the meantime, the Titanic's going down. Yeah. It's so sad. It's like, I want you to do these things.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'd be happy for you if you did if we had a government. government that functioned. Right. And we're skipping over that part. It'll be, it'll be, well, look, Drew, if you're going to put in place women of color and or women, you're going to get more of this because if you want to do Trump, Trump's going to yell, build, build, hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 You know, matter of fact, just play Trump, but I told you from the news presser if you can find. He was doing the end of his presser. and he started getting into building the ballroom. Oh, yeah. I love that sound. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's talking about the sound of the pile drivers. And it's like, he loves it.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And I was like, yes, he loves it. They're really proud to bring the building back. Because this building was a little bit like the country. It was mishandled. It was mistreated. And now it's being given love. And we're building one of the great, I think, maybe the greatest ballroom. We needed it for 150 years.
Starting point is 00:36:40 They've been asking you see that. the trucks and cranes and excavators in the background, and you hear them. And every time I hear them, I love the sound. To me, I love the sound. I wouldn't say my wife is thrilled because she hears pile drivers in the background all day, all night. They go till 12 o'clock in the evening, day night, pile drivers. Darling, could you turn off the pile drivers?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Sorry, darling, that's progress. That's the opposite of hair talk, right? Yes. Now, I don't know why people don't realize what he's doing. It's literally so different. This pile driver is giving you up a night. That's progress. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And the woman says, can you shut it off? And the guy goes, no, it's progress. Your idea of progress is braids in my coffee at Starbucks when you're trying to make me coffee. That's your idea. His is building shit. Piled drivers. Yeah. But it's the driving.
Starting point is 00:37:40 The driving force is the imagery all right. Right. Now, here's the deal. If you're looking for a nanny, she may be for you. But if you're looking for someone to run a city, then she's not for you. And by the way, salon owner, good. She can help these, you know, women do what they want to do. But there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I don't know what your point is. The point is, why does government have to get involved with this? because they need to perpetuate a theme. There's so many things that are, particularly our federal government, the state government and I have such strong feelings about, that the federal government is involved with that they have no fucking business being involved with. Yes. This is not what the founding file is intended, limited government, coalition, interstate commerce,
Starting point is 00:38:32 defense. Pile drivers. Pile drivers. Not extensions. All right. Tonight, Santa Barbara. Me at Santa Barbara Comedy Club. Come on out, say hi.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And then my daughter and her friends are coming out. Wow. That'll be fun. And then tomorrow night, I know, Corona, California. Dos Logos, Lagos Amphitheater. And is it Los or Dost? I can't read that. Dos Lagos Empathier.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Jay Morris can be there. Then off to Fort Lauderdale, Miami Improv, Fort Lauderdale. Okay, and just go to Amcorro.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Dr.N, X, and Instagram X is at D-R-D-R-W. and Instagram is DR. D.R. D.W. Pinsky. Dr. Pinsky and watch for our live streams on X. And until next, I'm Adam Crawler for Dr. Drew and Leland Vittert.
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