The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2071: ICE and the Thought Police + Jeremy Barker on his Murphy Door Empire Pt. 2

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

Pt. 2 - Jeremy Barker joins Adam and Dr. Drew! Jeremy Barker is a serial entrepreneur and inventor who founded Murphy Door, a Utah-based leader in hidden-door furniture that’s grown into a multimillion-dollar brand, and Murphy Ladder, a patented collapsible storage solution. He also created Purebrand, a peer-powered platform rewarding authentic customer feedback to connect brands with real users. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Jeremy, let's get you caught, let's get the audience caught up on who you are first. I know the fireman part, but I know the story, but it's fascinating. And inspiring. So go ahead. Appreciate that. So go a little bit back. When I was 18, I started a shed company that we supplied all the Home Depot's and I made way too much money too early. and then ended up going bankrupt.

And then I lived my car for a year and then decided to build houses. And then that went bankrupt when the banks followed. So then I went back into the fire world and skipped the part that I became an EMT at 18. And I thought that was going to be a great career. But unfortunately, I got my first paycheck and it was $6. You got it. It was $6.13 an hour. And I was making $7.50 moving freight.

And I'm like, well, I just took a 25% pay cut. That's not going to work out for me and pay for school at the same time. Right. So anyhow, we went in, started, did the sheds and got crazy, didn't know how to manage money. I could sell sheds, but I couldn't manage cash. So I just blew it. And then started building houses when the bank collapsed. I decided I needed something that was a little more secure. So I got into the fire world, got my degree in paramedics and then went to work for a fire department. That was in Utah. Utah. Utah, yeah, Royce City, Utah. And my net check was about $762 every two weeks. Three kids living in Utah. And my house payment was 23. What year is this? So I started at Roy in 2010. Oh, okay. Yep. All right.

Yeah. Yep. So you get about 700 and change every two weeks. Your mortgage is like $2,300. It's not penciling out. It did make sense. So I was working at Roy City Fire, and doing every other side job in construction that I knew,

you know, concrete, framing, whatever. And I thought all firemen are part-time carpenters as well. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Either that or flooring, right? They're going to do roofing, flooring, concrete, or carpentry. But all the other, it's a construction trade game. It's a great job for having a second job.

They're blue-collar dudes. They fit the bill physically for carpentry. They know how homes are constructed because they have to put them out when they're on fire. And they do their schedules such that they, you know, are three days on and four days off or whatever it is. And they don't get paid that much. So it's a perfect recipe. for a second job. And the second job is not going to be dentist.

It's going to be a carpenter. So that's every, all the guys I knew who were carpenter, I knew guys who were trying to be firemen, were firemen, were carpenters. It's, that's what they do on the side. Just because I'm curious, there are a lot of female firefighters these days.

What do they do on the office? Prostitution, Drew. Okay. Of course, course. They walk in the streets. They know the streets and they know the neighborhood. it. I don't know what they do, but I'll bet they do something because, and I'm not only do I bet they do something, I bet they fell into a lot of the same type of trades and patterns,

because it makes, it spreads, you know what I mean, and it'll make sense, some female version of carpentry. Well, it's a lot of me and CNA or nursing or they do part-time paramedics in the ER. That's what the females have a tendency to lean into. Mm-hmm. Right. And it's a, I mean, fireman's sort of like schoolteacher and that, you know, you don't get paid a lot, but you do have a lot of off time. True. I mean, I don't, you know, we never do that with school teachers. Like, they're not paid enough these heroes. Who has a job where you get three months off in the summer? In the best part of the year. I know. It's like literally. Drew, could you imagine just, hey, you got three months. You know what I mean? And the three best months where you can go to the beach and you can go swimming and boating every day, right?

Or you can go down to Minneapolis and Chuck Snowballs at ICE officers. Either way. You got some time. You have extra time. They're frustrated right now because they don't get to participate. See, they're in school. So if it could have happened in the summertime, you'd have a lot more involvement. That's kind of rough.

So you're working as a firefighter. You're building houses. Yep. And my kids, so we live in a little house up in Morgan, Utah, just north out of Park City. And we were building a theater room. And the theater room, like, I don't want you to think it's a theater room like that. It's not even half this size. But since I didn't have the cool theater rooms like the rest of my neighbors, you guys

know the neighborhood, they have real theater rooms. Mine was enough to fold out four folding chairs, right? Because we had to take that theater room that we had conceived initially and put a playroom on the other side. So we lost the theater concept. But I could make something cool, which was I thought, well, let's make a ticket booth door or something fun that my kids could at least brag about since they couldn't brag about the cool.

Let's make the entry cool. It's not the experience of the theater. It's going to be the experience of going to be the experience of going in. So I kind of created the old, remember the fortune teller kind of shaped door, or the game that you'd put in a quarter and she'd read your fortune. And they had like that little octagon shape. Well, I did that for my, like a hexagon, I should say. You mean sort of like in big with Tom Hanks? Yeah, that little arcade thing. Yeah. So I thought, well, I'll build this little hex-shaped front door that they could hand a ticket through there to their kids or to their friends and then they'd open

that door into the theater room. And that would be the experience since their experience wasn't going to exist in the theater room. Drew, imagine this concept of a dad wanting to make things like entertaining, exciting, and fun for their sons and daughters. That's a weird concept, isn't it? Well, it's weird for you, for sure. For me, my dad had none of those kinds of skills, right? So his idea of entertainment was like getting the car and drive to Oregon. Oh, all right. What'd you do in Oregon? It was something. We'd see, you know, for you know. See the coast sites. See the sites.

I mean, there was this weird thing back then. But my parents' sort of inspiration was you can just get in your car and go. You can drive. Yeah, yeah. You know, and stay in motels along the way. What about the iPads in your phone that you could use the whole time and never pay attention to the beauty you're driving by? Wouldn't that be wonderful? Yeah.

That's where at now. Yeah, my, the big, if you don't believe how simple things were, with the motel and this freedom, this sea America, the car offered freedom, the motels, the highways, the highways, the highways, the highways, and the freedom and all that, which Democrats all hate now. So they hate cars, they hate for them. They're really, it's weird how anti-freedom they are, well, always talking about fascism every 10 seconds, but my grandmother would do something with the VA up north. They'd have some FACTA retreat, you know, just an excuse. to go to Big Sur for three days and do nothing.

You know, I have some symposium or something. Anyway, but once a year for a couple of years, they would drive up there and they would take us. And we stayed a hotel, and the sign up front of the hotel just said, color TV, motel, sorry. Vacancy. Colour, vacancy, color TV, and it said free jelly beans. That's a big draw.

Like, oh, my. Massage bed. No, no, no vibrating bed. How dear you. But, yeah, just the notion that that was a reason for you to pull off the highway would have been free jelly beans. Yeah. So you build this for your kids, make it kind of fun. But what was interesting is I got online and I'm like, hey, what is there out there that I could do?

So, I mean, I'm not Mr. Finnish carpenter. I'm a rough framer, you know what I mean? Concrete tile, that kind of stuff. I'm great. But I couldn't, I'm not a cabinet guy. I never built a cabinet in my life, unlike you that has a ton of cabinet experience. And I just thought, well, I'll just get some table saw. and try to figure it out.

Well, what was ironic is they didn't really have hardware that made it work. So three hinges and a door that weighs 350 pounds and then has to be eight inches or 12 inches deep, they have a tendency to twist. Well, you're only as strong as the hinge screws, those little teeny, you know, three-eighths, half-inch screws that you'd put into the hinge side. And they just peel out. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't, you know, Drew, they didn't make all this cool Euro hardware stuff back in the day.

It was very exotic. And it was right. It was from Europe and all the sort of hinges you have in your modern apartment there in New York and that you know that you can't see him and that are It's a 35 millimeter system, I believe, but it's all it's all it's all put in morticed in and everything But that was all exotic stuff. It wasn't Home Depot stuff. You'd have to go to a place called Sid Charnies Or Sid Sejia's it's a weirdest place. There were two places that and the entire valley that sold crazy hardware, and they both started with the name Sid.

And there were different places. So it was always confusion. But you have to go there. You have to order these hinges. And they'd come from Belgium or something. And they were expensive. Like, you know, what Jeremy's talking about is doing these big heavy hidden doors and stuff

where you can't just have regular flap hinges. You have to kind of, and they have to go full, you know, 120 degrees or whatever it is. And then carry a shit ton of weight. So you're talking like 11 up to it. Our hinges are rated to 1100 pounds. Well, since I'm a simpleton, I thought, well, first we got to put these hinges on the top and bottom of the door. So rather than carry it from the side, let's make it where the weight sits and make it super simple.

Pivot it. Pivot it. Exactly. So where did I get the pivot concept? I thought, well, it's like a backhoe bucket, like a quick release on a backhoe bucket. If you change the angle, you can change the deflection that you can attack the side of a hill. So we created a hardware that you didn't have to mordescend that you could mount at the top and bottom. of the door.

Right. They could be left-hand swing, right-hand swing, or a full 360. Drew will be the ears of the lay slash gay person, and I will explain everything to you. You know, when you go into those new, beautiful, big homes now, the front door pivots. It's not hinged. Do you feel me? Those big grand, you know, they're building some big 10,000 square footer and Henderson up in the hills. That front door, which now is, you know, six foot wide and, like, you know,

11 feet tall or whatever it is. And 5,000 pounds. And 5,000 pounds. That thing's not swinging on hinges. It would tear the hinges off. And also it would be hard to open it. It's pivoting now. Sort of like a big commercial style door.

So that's what we're talking about. Got it, Drew? Got it. All right. I can't quite envision what the hinge itself looks like. It's a pivot. It's a play with a pin. It's a pivot, Drew.

Not a hinge. Got it. You're with me? No. Yes, I won't ask stupid questions. No, no. But, Drew, hinges are on the side of the door. No, I think, but sometimes I think there's an arm up there that helps with the pivot.

The closure. Yeah. I mean, not real. I mean, yeah, but I'm saying the. I get you. I get it. I think the easiest way to explain that for you, Drew, is if you dropped a rod from top to bottom of the door. Yep.

And then that place would be the pivot position. But it would be inbound a little bit. It wouldn't be at the edge of the door where the hand is. Understood. And it's set about an inch, so that way it gives it some clearance. Or more, depending. Yeah, true. Exactly.

You're seeing those new ones that are offset 18 inches and more. Yeah, there's a huge, like huge front doors. I don't know why we need it. We don't need it. That's the whole point. We just want the neighbors to be jealous. I want the neighbors to see how big the door is. You know what I mean?

I guess that's the new dropping it. It's a new penis. It's the new penis. I mean, it's sort of the new Cadillac or, you know, Rolls-Royce. It doesn't mean anything to have a Mercedes-Bentzance anymore. right? And it doesn't mean anything to have a Cadillac. When we were young, it'd be like, this guy with this BMW comes up, there was big house, and it was a big deal. Now everyone has a BMW, everyone's Cadillac. There is no more that. It's just door size. How big is your door?

How big's your front door? That's what I need to know. Right. Like, let's talk about it. So we ended up doing this hinge real quick. And I thought, well, I'm going to start this. This is a great side business for fire. I'll just produce this hinge that we created that was awesome. I didn't have any money to, like, mortise in the hinge plates. So I needed to, surface-mounted hinge that I could move anywhere without mortising like rickson hinges you could use they were great hardware but you had to mortise them drew mortis you got it no all right a hinge let's say you're doing embedded embedded in the wood exactly now got it there you're there well like so your front door drew has hinges yeah and they're mortised in yeah yeah but your side gate probably just has

hinges that are just surface mounted. Correct. There you go. All right. There's mortis. Go ahead. So that's what he did and I thought, hey, let's sell some hardware. And then I can still do my fire because I loved fire paramedics. That was my favorite job I've ever done. Hands down, bar none. I love the family. I love the calls. I love

the whole thing. And I'm like, well, what if we could also, you're in Utah. It's not another illegal OD'd on fentanyl and is swimming in their own filth, you know, down in South Central. Little. We had a little. People were moving in north. We got lazy in Utah. So all the stuff started moving to Ogden because it was less frictional. We weren't running people out fast enough.

So anyway, we got that and started selling hardware quick, but then all of a sudden, people started asking for doors. And what was ironic is I'd never build cabinet doors, so I tried to get a cabinet company to help me build cabinets and teach me how to be able to produce doors. So what you should know, too, Drew, is Jeremy's company, amongst other things, makes these amazing hidden door. room. They could be safe rooms or they could be for something else or that could be for your

gun collection. A lot of it is safety oriented. But it's like you go into a house, you think it's a wall cabinet with plates, decorative plates on it or something and you push on it and it pops open and there's a room in there. And or you hit a button and on your phone, I guess now. And this thing pops open. And everyone wants security. now. And also, the most security, I think people think, well, what's going to protect me against a home

invasion? And people go, well, a gun, dogs. Yeah, but you're kind of in the mix at that point. You know what I mean? Like it's dark theoretically. You may have been awoken from a deep sleep. And now you're in your underpants and you got to go to battle. You know what I mean? Where's my Glock? Where's the dog? You know what I mean? This is. literally just step inside this room and you'll never be detected. Because it is not thinkable or seeable. You just can't. Like if you can't see it, it's not something. Most of this stuff smash and grab. You know, they want to come in and get out. So they don't spend a lot of time. And we'll pivot bookcases all the way to rock walls. It doesn't, it doesn't really matter. You get as creative as you

want. And we can make that system work. And along the lines of what people are doing a lot right now with speak-easies are huge. Yeah. We're doing a ton of everything. Yeah. Because everyone, everyone wants a conversation piece, you know. And they want that, you know, first they wanted the, you know, they wanted the media room with the big screen and then they wanted the man cave, you know.

Now it's the speakeasy, the secret door. When I went to Pixar, one of the, and toured Pixar years ago, one of the, one of the, the riders there in the writer's sort of area had a little speak easy. And it was all decorated like a teaky lounge or something. And it was a secret door. And it, you know, they go there and have a cocktail. And it was just, it was this sort of fun. And in a realm of like, you know, big doors and media rooms and just tons of home gyms.

And, you know, just that kind of stuff. I think the speak easy secret room, safe room is kind of the... It's hitting right now, yeah, for sure. Makes you wonder what's next. Well, there's a few. They call them red rooms. They call them, you name it what you want, but that's a big thing right now. What's a red room?

Well, it used to be called sex rooms, but P. Diddy ruined it. So now we have to just call it red room, right? I mean, ever since that thing went down, it's a different deal. So we had to change that title. So would you say that most people that are building a kind of... custom, full-size home, let's say with a price tag of four, five million and up, you know, up to a hundred million, are going, these days are going to install some form of this safe room. A hundred percent. And right now, to give you an idea, we were doing a hinge set.

Our first year, we did $30,000 in hardware sales. Right? Now we're doing a hidden room door system every six minutes. Every six minutes. Every six minutes, we're turning one. And it is, it is its own thing, Drew, like I can tell you as a carpenter and former cabinet maker. The whole sort of door pivot hidden thing, because of the depth mainly, you know what I mean? Because your front door is an inch and three quarters thick. That's as thick as you've got to deal with. That's an exterior door. But you got something that's 13 inches.

And that changes the entire dynamics of the source. swing and the pivot and everything else. So it's like, even if you were good, I don't think you'd try this one on your own. So I'm curious, it's called Murphy Door, right? Yep, Murphy Door.com. And I'm guessing that is a play on the Murphy bed. That's exactly right. And did they have an issue with that? No, I got my registered trademark out the gate. They said, hey, look, we got it. And it's actually being contested right now. We've got Lowe's and we've got everybody's using Murphy Door as the category title head of Hidden Doors. But when we started, it was not even an existing industry.

Yes, there had been hidden doors all over the world. But there's never been anyone that really tried to capitalize on building a marketplace. And that's what we really pushed. And we ended up getting it. But now you got Lowe's, Amazon, Home Depot, every big company. Murphy Bed was not a brand. It was just sort of a description. Actually, it was a brand.

In 1879, they trademarked. They lost it in 1929. And that was generic. Now you sound like my girlfriend. Yeah, Crystal. civilization. She's got a whole collection. So they had it in 18 whatever. Seventy- the beds. Yeah, Murphy beds. All right. And then what happened after that? So they didn't renew and registered their trademark in 1929. So then it got surrendered as public domain. They weren't defending

it. It became synonymous. Yep. Synonymous for hidden beds. Oh, and so they never, they never renewed the trademark. And also Jeremy does, you know, obviously the beds. And there's all, I mean, it's kind of nice, Drew, now, because we're finally smart, you know, and we're living in a kind of ergonomically. We've figured things out sort of ergonomically, which is an interesting concept. Well, it's so weird that we ever lived through the wood tiles and the aluminum windows. It's just, what the hell happened there? You know what I mean? Tiles.

I mean, the, what do they call those things that they put, piles on the size of the building. Oh, you're talking about the shingles. Yeah, cedar shape. We're dumb. We're dumb. But what I mean like ergonomically, which is like you take a drill and a first generation cordless drill, which Jeremy knows is a mikita 9.6, right? And the handle for that thing was just a long, thin plastic shaft, you know?

And it didn't sit well in your hand at all. It just didn't feel. good in your hand. And the hammer handle was not fit for your hand. Your tool bags were just hard leather that you just strapped around you. You know, nothing fit, right? Nothing felt good in your hand. Gloves. They had one set of gloves. My entire construction career, it's the farmer's, you know, leather. The same ones they used in the dust ball is what they didn't have ones with grip that felt you couldn't use them because you couldn't feel the trigger. You had no feel. You had no feel. You couldn't set tile in them.

Everything is like worked out now. You know, you get into a $26,000 mini-couper. The steering wheel feels good. We had thin, plastic, you know, thin, hard plastic and knobs that cut your hands and stuff. Like, it was weird that we didn't, you know, the human form had been around for so long. But we didn't really do the ergonomic part of life. And the efficiency part. Like when you go check out Jeremy's stuff, which I have down at the Big Vegas home show and stuff, you see stuff pulling down from the wall, going back in and it's storage, you know, when it's back in.

And you just go, yes, of course, of course. Why didn't anyone think of this shit? But we never did. Think about that. Like to his point, everything's ergonomic. And now the house needs to be multifunctional. People can't afford to build these giant houses as well. So when people ask you, is this for the rich, I can't afford it?

I'm like, well, it's actually for all. Like, if you have a small space and you need more space, we can give you space in dead wall space, right? You've got empty wall cavernous areas that we can create 20, 30 cute feet of storage in the wall. Right. It's unused. So inside this concept, along the lines with our beds and our doors, we're also doing furniture. So like nightstands, my wife had this beautiful idea of this armware that she'd put together. And now you can have an armoire that's also multifunctional.

So what else can we make that produces and gives more to each piece of, you know, you know, furniture, cabinetry, doorway in your home. So it's not just a single purpose function. So that's how we've really been trying to push our business. How many square feet do you guys have now? In manufacturing processes? Yeah. So we're in two different facilities. We have one in Utah, one in Kentucky. In total, there's about 180,000 square feet of manufacturing. That's a lot of manufacturing. We're building a new one in Dallas. Oh, you are? Yep. Not in California, huh? Well, we were really debating. And then I came down here. I had Murphy Ladder. Our Ladder, our brand, which is a fold-up awesome ladder, too, instead of these big square odd pieces of ladder,

they fold into themselves so you can storm conveniently. Well, I had a place in Fullerton, and during COVID, they kept trying to shut us down and turn the gas off and the electricity off and all the crap. So we closed that thing down and moved the warehouse back to Utah. It's such a weird impulse that we control you. And then the weirder impulse is, please control us, Your Highness. Oh, my God. Like more.

I cannot understand it. I, you know, I will, I'll tell you, oh, and Jeremy's a former builder, so I'll get Andrew's ear on this. But I sent Andrew some pictures. I didn't prep him on, so it might take a second. But I sent Andrew some pictures over the weekend. But also, Andrew has some shots of what is being required versus what was over there in Maltau. You're talking to rebuild. The wood, the wood.

They tried to rebuild it. But, you know, somebody tweeted me back two things. One is they go, what happened to sort of rugged individualism? Like what happened to not wanting the government to tell you what you could do on your property with your money? Fluoride. Is that what happened? I think so. I mean, I get the part where you say to the government, hey, I'd like a grant to build the foundation of my beach home.

and they review it and go, no, we're not going to give you the money. This is our money. I want the permission to build it, which is crazy. But then also somebody said this, too. Somebody tweeted this to me. They said, why does the foundation need to be good for 1,000 years? Why not just 100 years? That was your question right at the beginning of all this.

The house isn't, there's no house that's going to be 1,000 years old. The house, if you're lucky, you'll be 100 years old. So why not make a foundation? foundation that's commensurate with a hundred with a hundred year house well everyone every bitch of the coastal commission be dead by then hopefully and hopefully they won't have any kids because they're all angry lesbians so have they issued any permits in malibu at all yet there is one one one there's one piece of building going on in all of malibu now no government efficiency on the coast yeah on the coast no no no no drew at all that's why period right let's

Let's rewind the tape. And all of Malibu, because it's all of Malibu, because that entails the hill as well. And anything that's within, the coastal commission has jurisdiction of anything that's within, I don't know, two miles from the coast or whatever, mile from the coast. So there's nothing on the hill. Remember the hill burnt down too, Drew. Yeah, yeah. Zero.

All right. So what we're looking at is a picture I took a couple of days ago walking along the beach and just thinking. Just walking and thinking. And I pass this thing. And it's a home. My estimate, it was probably circa 1960. Could have been 58, could have been 67. I don't know.

It's a 60s era, 50s, 60s era home. All built on wooden telephone poles with cross members that got added later on. That's retrofitted, Drew. Interesting. A little pressure treated going there. Pressure treated. Drew, when you see green pressure treated lumber that's pressure treated for the weather and it's green, it'll be newer. They didn't have that old school.

You know what's extra interesting to me about this? I'm not sure you could even put the crossfitting in there now because they have a new policy at the Coastal Commission called reclamation, which is you're not allowed to do anything. and the ocean just takes your house back. Yeah, well, one of my great rants was you're looking at the pressure-treated wood, right? The green lumber. Yeah, yeah. When I, two weeks before the fires, and I've told you this,

but you have to really think about this in terms of L.A. In the Coastal Commission in California, two or three weeks, several weeks before the fires, I went up the highway to the Malibu lumber, a mile away from where, this picture is with all the treated lovers, right? And I said to them, I'm going to need a couple of sticks of like eight foot two by four treated, pressure treated to take with me. Because I, Jeremy, was building storage in my garage up top. And I was putting a ledger against the cement. And so I wanted to use pressure treated wood. If it goes against cement or it's exposed, Drew, pressure treated. So I said to them, I'll need a couple of eight foot.

sticks or maybe a 10 foot and a 12 foot stick. And these guys, because their Malibu lumber, are used to divorcees pulling up in Mercedes G-wagons, right? And they're used to cutting everything for everyone because there's not a bunch of contractors and dudes driving dulys, right? Just pre-cut. Right. This hero was in a duly. So when the guy sold me the pressure treated wood, preemptively, he goes, you know, we can't cut that. Now, what they have is, They have a radial arm saw, Drew, outside in the back. That they'll, you know, if the mom comes in and she's making a bird feeder and she's from Malibu, and she buys some knotty pine, they'll cut it up.

Sure. In pieces for her so she can fit it in her Tesla and get it back. Right. Not treated. So I go, I don't need it treated. I don't need it cut. I got a truck. But by the way, why can't you cut treated wood?

EPA. It's a, it's, there's chemicals in it, Drew. Now, by the way, everyone who buys the treated lumber is just going to take it home and cut it. They have to. There's no such thing. It's just not cutting the wood you take home. But the state of California prohibits the lumber yard from cutting treated lumber because it has chemicals in it.

And then a month later, the entire fucking place burns to the ground. Yeah. Listen, I'm in New York right now. We just had a snowstorm earlier in the week. And I saw the word safety, 300. Yeah. All right. So I took a picture of this all wooden foundation. All wooden. The poles are there, the headers, the beams, the cross members, and a house that has been there for 65 to 70 years. Okay? Easily. Seventy years. And then literally 200 feet up the street is the only place in all of Malibu. And again, not the Palisades. Malibu on the coast and on the hill all of Malibu there was one construction site and one only and are who do they know I I the speculation they had the permit before the fire or something like that but

Andrew has took a few hero shots of that on his um on his rig and it's pretty this is the one with the huge pylon it's a huge cement they won't they're not stopping by the way they're building another sea wall against the side of PCH, I came by there a couple days ago. I realized I'm an insane person. I literally, these Mexicans think I'm fucking crazier than the Chupacabra. They're sitting there every time and I come by and I go, what's, what we got here? Great beam? Yeah, that's a retainer for the, for the PCH?

Yeah. Was that number six? Yeah. And what's that? Number three around? Yeah. And then what do you do? Tie those in with the pylons?

Yeah. What do you use? You're down on it? Yeah. They're like, get the fuck out of here. Why are you going to be down? What is going on? Who is this guy?

Who is this maniac who walks up and down PCA with his fucking phone? Whoa. Taking pictures. So are we building the Coliseum here? Is that what that is? It's the new L.A. Dodgers Stadium or what do we have going on? Are you seeing this, Drew? That is a little bit overbuilt.

And you had a conversation with them, too, about the flooring, right? And what they were going to pour? Well, look, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, They're going to sink. I go, so what do you do? You can go back. You can freeze it on a big hero shot. Sorry, not that shot.

That's an existing thing. Sorry. Yeah, just freeze it on a good hero shot, though, Andrew. Look, there's a hero. There's a hero. No, you'll find it. But anyway, look, you had it when we were playing it at the beginning. Yeah, there you go.

Well, you have it at the beginning. anyway. Oh, it's the video. Yeah. All right. There. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's probably better. There's more. All right. The point is, you're looking at the seawall. The seawall is not the wall. It's not what the house is being put on. I ain't just play. It doesn't matter then.

So they are, you can just pause it there. Sorry. They are sinking these casons five store. into the ground, and now they've got to build a separate seawall that goes against PCH. And it is just... Who's going to be able to afford to build this, first and forth? It's not an American, is it? We don't know.

You're two and a half million into the slap. Now, at some point, Drew, we're going to have to tie all these columns in together with bond beams. That'll be more concrete, and then we'll pour slab. on top of that. Wow. And then you'll start. You're building the house. Then Jeremy can come in with one of his hidden doors.

There you go. Yeah, and a Murphy bed. It is insane. And actually, Andrew, if you let it go a little longer to the one house that we went, we went and filmed that's in the distance. I know the owner of that home, by the way. Because you drove them crazy too? No, no.

He's out of town. You can, there it is. Boy, stop it there for a second. But you can see that is, if you go back a second, let me just see how many of those casons are in the ground. So, Adam, this is making sense why you were on manual labor news saying, watch for this guy, because he's going to just come police your word. So your front cover.

It's written in Spanish. You can go to that, I don't know, maybe you can't control it. But that sky shot with all the caissons was excellent. Yeah. What are you looking at there? Is that one of the old burn down. Yeah, it's one of the old burn down. Yeah.

So Andrew, well, whatever the one, anyway, the one you just, the one he had from the top there. The one we're just talking about. Now, the old house that's still sitting there is on a lot of cement too, right? A lot of concrete. Well, we'll go ahead to the one that I was speaking of. All right. Yeah, you had it. So you can go to Amcrawl.com and you can look at our fireflog.

Now, you can just pause it. here for a second. Excuse me. All right. This is a neighboring house. And this is how it's going to get built. It's going to be casons into the ground. It's going to be a slab that's like 12 inches thick.

And it's going to be those bond beams going along the top that tie the caissons into the into everything. And it's basically built like a commercial parking structure, essentially. And it's way overbuilt. and it's unnecessary and it's tons of money and that's where we're at. But from this structure we're looking at, which is new, down the beach 100 feet is the one from the 50s and the 60s that's all wood that's still there. Yeah, 75 years without a problem.

That's what I'm alluding to. That's what good government does. Oh, yeah. Well, they just keep adding on and then businesses have to leave because could you imagine if, I mean, business, obviously you're in the business of making money. It's margins. And you're not going to get any here. You're going to be literally underwater.

Well, and you think about just like, we were talking about this at the Starbucks the other day. You know, you want minimum wage. You go bump the minimum wage up so high. All of a sudden now your prices go up. And now they're doing this automatic tipping thing. Like you don't have a choice. There's no like no tip. Right.

There's just like 25, 35 and 50, by the way, is what I saw this weekend. There's no option for like the old 15%. Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, I have a rule. I told Shannon, she tips everybody. And we tip high. Your wife. Yeah, my wife, Shannon outside.

I'm like, hey, look, my rule on tipping is if I have to order standing up, I don't think I should have to tip on this game. Right. You know, when you go to a gas station and they start asking for tip money, you're just volunteering margin. Well, and then now your price is up even higher. Then how does it stop? Just like this in building.

It's the same scenario. They keep requiring it. Everything has to go up. Everything has to cost more money. Now people can't afford to build, and it's just this circle that doesn't ever slow down. All right. We need to take a quick break. Be right back with Drew and Jeremy right after this. Momentus. I like feeling healthy, but supplement industry is hard to trust. Companies don't even have to list what's in their products. That's why I partnered with Momentus because they're like me.

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Pluto TV, stream now, pay never. You're welcome. Okay. Yeah, I, okay. So this concept of, so there's a reverse engineering problem with the government here, which is, and I've always used this example because it always stuck out in my head, which is like, look, you want people to be able to afford. their own home, you want them to be able to pay for their own dental and medical and send

their kids to a good school, then let's just make the minimum wage $75 an hour. And it's, and it's like there's something they're missing. But it's, it's also up there with Tim Walls has to get up there and go, I want all the chaos to stop out on the streets of Minneapolis. And the way to get it to stop is for all the ICE officials to go home. And it's like, yeah, you know, I'll tell you, another way it would stop if no ICE officials were ever born. If no ice enforcement, if we never had ICE, but nothing would exist. We could just run naked in the streets and take stuff we wanted. And, you know, imagine.

Imagine. Imagine, there's no prison. There's no borders. It's true freedom. It's true freedom. Everyone is in their safe room hiding with Jeremy. Yeah, you're all in. Well, get your door.

You have to be in a safe room because you can't, you don't dare go outside. Right, right. And so they do the same thing as it pertains to the $75 minimum wage as they do with budgetary shortfalls. I literally heard the chairman of the California Budget Committee say the following thing. You know, we have X billion dollar shortfall. And I don't know what we're going to do. They don't come. Of course, they don't talk about cutting expense.

They talk about raising taxes. And then she went on to say, she goes, you know, we can't print money. But the federal government can print money. They need to print the money and give it to us. I'm like, oh, my God. There's this weird lack of understanding of economics out there now, too. There's also an incentive situation that they completely and utterly miss with the minimum wage. Everything related to human nature.

Everything. Right. These people need a working wage. This mother of seven who works at McDonald's needs a wage. You're not supposed to be a mother of seven and working McDonald's. I worked at McDonald's. Minimum wage was like $3.10. The job sucked.

They took taxes out, and I only worked the grill. I never made it to the counter. I sat behind that grill, and I made quarter-pounders, and I made Big Macs, and the only break I ever got is somewhere between breakfast and lunch when it would slow down. They would then look at me and go, give me a sweep and a mop in the dining area. And then I would go out and empty the garbage cans and sweep and mop the dining area. And that was it. And I was 16, and I was like, this surely something.

This sucks badly. I'm going to do a different job. I was your competition. I was Hardee's. You were Hardys. I was Hardys, boy. McDonald's was across the street, and we were just viral enemies. It's not a good thing.

And if they paid me $40 an hour, I might still be there. I mean, the whole point is you're not supposed to be there at that age. Now, what I would be for is if the government said, we got too many middle-aged women working at McDonald's. for minimum wage. How did they get there? How do we get them out of there? How do we get them out of there? And what kind of vocational training could we offer so that they could become certified nurses in two years rather than flipping burgers? I'm all for that. Which is where we need them, by the way. We need nurses. We need help. And where we need labor, I'll go into the inner city, find these kids at risk youth or whatever. Forget about getting them a free tablet and a free lunch.

I want some vocational training. Free college. I want some fucking vocational training. These guys can go to work. Malbu. I am telling you you could drive, and I do, the entire length of PCH. You will see hundreds or thousands of workers working machinery, union, whatever, high paying hour late. Six figure jobs.

That's the deal. You will not see one black man, not one. Not one black kid working that entire stretch. Why do you think that is? I think it's multi. I think there's two things. I think this thing that the black leaders and the race hustlers have been pitching, which is that's beneath you.

That's like slave work. You're not on the plantation anymore. You don't have to sweat out in the sun. You should get a first-class education and become a doctor, like Dr. Huxtable. I'm all for that If you can do it But that doesn't seem to be happening That's what I'm saying

So they look at the blue collar stuff Is a step backwards For like the young black man You know what I mean? You don't aspire to that And so they preach this school And all this stuff And it never fucking works And they end up in gangs

And dead at 17 When they could have a trade But it's not First off it's pragmatic They don't like anything that's pragmatic Everything is pie in the sky to them. Everything is I have...

Who's them? The left. Everything the left is they have a dream and everyone gets a seat at the table and everyone gets world-class health care and education. They have a dream about everything, but they don't have a plan for jack fucking squat. To execute anything.

They can't... They dream about everything. Zero plan to be put into place. Well, then you can blame other people. Like, if you had the dream and no one executed, it's their fault. Could you imagine having our black mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass,

and or Maxine Waters, and or Barack Obama, and or LeBron James. Could you imagine, I would clutch my heart if I heard Karen Basko, listen to me, half the city's burnt down. We're going to be rebuilding this place for the next decade. We're going to need plumbers. We're going to need plumbers. We're going to need everything. And I got a whole bunch of kids in the inner city and never met their dad and they're young

and they're rudderless and they're not going to Harvard. they're going into a gang. So I want to get hold of these kids. And I got programs. And within there's apprentices, apprenticeship programs. By the time these guys are 19, they're going to be making $65 an hour and full benefits.

Can you imagine if one of them said anything close to that? Yeah, it would be awesome. Other than fuck Trump. Let's go fight Trump. We need to weaponize these kids to fight ice. I agree. It's insane. You know, along those lines, our shop,

we paid $19 an hour plus all the benefits in the planet. You got health care, dental, vision, vacation, all that stuff. Well, we realized we posted up our white collar stuff, people that you have to go to school for, U.S.UI, like user interface and tech and CTO stuff. Well, anyway, we had 300 plus applications for the white collar stuff at the same wage, and we had three in the shop. So I'm like, well, wait a second.

That means I'm paying too high in my tech stuff and too low for the shop stuff. Right. So that means I have a reverse. Well, and I told my guys, hey, look, if you're going to want a six-figure job, you need to get to the shop because this side's not going to, there's, everybody wants to be in the desk with AC. They don't want to be out there. The shops you'll as AC, but they, they don't think it's beneath them, right? Right. So now we're paying more on average in our factory workers than we are in our office workers. And by the way, we don't need the government to tell Jeremy how much to pay.

He can tell how much to pay by how many people walk through the door. That's exactly. And I've said it one million times. I go, don't you think we need a minimum? No, we don't. We don't need any. We don't need any because I can go down the street to the Home Depot and I can walk to the corral with the day labors and I go, I will pay you guys all a dollar 50 an hour to come to my house and cut, cut brush for the fire department and they'll go, fuck off, gringo. Right. By the they probably heard of me nosing around. They saw you in the cover. They got some friends in Malibu who are doing foundation work. They've heard tale of the crazy gringo, right? Lour is spread through the land and the community. Watch out for it. Now, if I said, I'll give you a, I'll give you a,

I give you a buck 50 an hour to go do that. They'd all suck me and go, no. Yeah. And if I said, I'll give you $150 an hour to come do it, they'd all jump in the back of the truck, right? So what's that number? Well, we'll figure it out is what I'm saying. They have free will. You don't have to work at McDonald's. Yep. McDonald's can offer a dollar an hour and they'll have no employees. Or automate. All right. Or they can offer a hundred bucks an hour and there'll be a line going down the street. Let them figure it out. Let Jeremy figure it out. Jeremy needs people on the floor. 19 bucks, probably not going to cut it in this day and age. That's the guy putting back screws in a bag. I mean, it goes all the way up.

We got six-figure guys inside the shop. Right. But that's the starting pay for the 16-year-old putting screws in a bag. Right, right. But if you run out of 16-year-old, you're going to have to go from 19 to 20. 100%. And we will as fast as you need. But you don't need the government getting in between you and the guy putting the screws in the bags. No, we find out when there's nobody putting screws in the bag that we need to raise our wages or there's not going to be anyone here tomorrow to fill our hardware deal. It's the market. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Just go, hey, anyone owns a home, just go, look, I need someone to come clean my 5,000 square foot home, but I'm not paying more than $40. Yeah, no one's coming. No one's coming. That's, I, it's insane that we talk about the minimum wage like it's so necessary. How necessary was it ever?

in your life or anyone you know. Well, remember, if you believe that everyone owns a business is exploiting labor, I wish I could exploit employees. I really do. I wish I could mention all the, you're all cut off. You come in for free from now on. I'll pay you when I feel like it. Wouldn't that be nice?

It'd be nice, but it's, it doesn't, you can't do it. You really can't. I mean, you may be in some sort of third world where, you know, know, there's no choice but to work at a sweatshop or something. You can't do this in modern America. You can't entice people to work for you for nothing. Yeah. It's not going to fucking work.

All right. So, Jeremy. Yes, sir. Wait, I have a question for Jeremy. We've gotten way off into construction. You said something, you just dropped it as though, as I just lived in Utah. Yep. I lived in a car for a year.

Yes, sir. Exactly. So how does that work? Did you, yeah. I made my first 20 million by the time I was 21 years old selling Home Depot storage buildings. I invented the metal frame on the inside of every shed that you see around the country, around the world. That was my first patent at 18 years old. It exploded.

We grew this business. I didn't know how to do accounting. I didn't manage any money. No, no. I don't mean how'd you lose all the money. I mean, how did you survive for a year out of your car? Oh, yeah. So I was hauling, I was hauling RVs in my pickup truck.

So I was working for the RV manufacturers hauling him. Now, the ironic thing with hauling RVs is you can't sleep in the RV because it's someone else's brand new RV. I did do it the first night. And then I got busted in a fine. And I realized that you can't use someone else's RV to sleep in. Right. So even though you're toe in a house around, you can't sleep there. So needless to say, I drove around the country, lived in my car.

The first six months didn't work well. I was super suicidal and super depressed. The next six months, I found myself being my own best friend and forgiving myself for all the mistakes I made. And you had a, what were you driving truck wise? It was a 1995 Dodge Ram Dooley. with the extra cab. Dooley. Yep.

So you slept in the back and the extra cab. Yep. In the mega cap. Yeah, Jeremy is, I don't know, six to. Jeremy's not short. Yeah, it wasn't comfortable. That was a little, that's tough. But he did what he had to do and became a super success because of it.

And let me give out your website. Jeremy Barker.com and murphy door.com as well. And Jeremy's good hang as well when we go out to Vegas, have a good time. The only thing I want to say on the Murphy Door side is, if you guys can think it and dream it, our website has a minimal selection. So every single thing we build is custom. It's one-off manufacturing. So it's what you want, where you want, when you want it.

You come up with the design. We throw you, there's several thousand different concepts on that side. But if you have something different, bring it to us. It is impressive. All right. Tomorrow, Washington, D.C., Kennedy Center, a couple of shows there. Low ticket warning, but that'll be that. maybe some tickets still for the 9 p.m. show. Drew, what do you got?

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