The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2075 - The Spectrum of Stupidity | Part 2

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Adam also rants about his manager Mike August’s frustrating email habits and unloads on people with zero situational awareness who sleepwalk through conversations. Adam and Dr. Drew react to breaking news of Nick Reiner pleading not guilty in the murder of his parents, as Drew explains how drugs like meth can rapidly destroy a life. They wrap up by discussing how impossible homeownership feels for young people in California, the uproar over the latest Epstein files release, and why Adam has largely stayed quiet on the Epstein controversy.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew's show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. The judge. We're going to be going to get on. Dr. Drew's board first. Then it's sex and specialist. I'll give you a funny.

It just popped in my head. I forgot about it. but I'll give you a funny Mike August in the, and how Mike August brain works, right? Right. Right. So Mike August gives two word answers and, like confuses people all the time.

Yeah. And so we're going to Texas as, you know, tonight, tomorrow night, doing shows over there at hyenas in Dallas. And we work out something with a friend of ours that while we're in Texas, we're going to grab an interview with Ted Nugent, right? And now, we were supposed to fly back home Sunday at noon, let's say. But now we have a 2 p.m. interview with Ted Nugent, right? Right.

So, Mike announces to Daphne and everyone else here, we're now doing a 2 p.m. We're doing a 2 p.m. interview with Ted Nugent on Sunday. Okay. So then I come in and Daphne is frantically trying, she cancels the noon flight and is trying to rebook flights for six o'clock on Sunday night or, you know, how long it takes to get to the airport from wherever Ted Nugent is, an hour and a half, whatever. Trying to find whatever flights we can find, right? Yep.

So she's in the process of doing that. And I say to her, what are you doing? And she says, well, I have to rebook flights. I have to find flights for you and Mike Sunday night. Then I say, oh, we're flying back privately with John Clay Wolf, the guy who booked us with Ted Nugent. Nice. Right.

But Mike didn't include that in the email. Right. He just included the part where we were talking to Ted Nugent at two, which would activate Daphne into canceling flights and looking for later flights. With a couple more seconds at the keyboards, he could have said, he doesn't have to say rebook or he can just go, we're flying back privately. But he won't include that in the message. And so he puts, makes everyone do all this shit because he won't include that part in the fucking message.

When you alerted her to this particular episode, this particular episode, did she like scream out loud or throw something? Because she's usually the object of this. It is a real consequence for her all the time. She gets paid by the hour. It doesn't matter. She can just look for stuff on the internet that we don't need. But and to be fair, well, not to be fair, I had walked in. Now, if I'd been an hour later, she would have rebook flights and then had to cancel the

rebook flights later. But I'd walked in and went, what are you doing? And she went, well, I just found out about this Ted Nugent thing. And I have to rebook the flights now. And I nipped it in the bud. But yes, if I had somewhere else and it showed up at half hour later, then she would have booked the flights for 6 o'clock, and then we would have canceled those flights.

Of course. As well, because he wouldn't say that part. Hey, another quick topic before we move on to other things. The nicotine tape that we analyzed and the gay ice agent that we did with Michael Gates, people seem to like us looking at these dumb, dumb videos. They're dumb in the sense that they're just the, the kindest thing I could say is they're misguided or they're showing people's stupidity in many ways, whether it's the public health system or the woman that's holding the camera, whatever it might be.

And it occurred to me that we ought to have our listeners send in videos for us to look at. And I mentioned this to Andrew and he said, yes, he would set that up and start collating some of that stuff. Am I getting that correct, Andrew? Yes, that's correct. Maybe the collating part I added myself. But somebody's going to take the videos and put them together so we can take a look at him. That's a good idea, don't you think? Yeah, I do.

Yeah. I think it's a good idea. We'll start. If people would send them in, what, Andrew, do you have any sense of? We're going to start a Twitter page for the show, specifically for the videos and people can tag us, send it into us, DM us, and we'll go through it. So what? Adam and Dr. Drew video kind of kind of title? something like that? I've been producing the show. I've been able to start the Twitter page.

No, no, no. I understand that. But I mean, keep an eye out for something with our names and the word video or what? Yeah, that's correct. Okay. Okay. All right. That's it. All right. On the Twitter page, our names or show name and then video or whatever, send them there. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be fun. And by the way, questions too. I mean, people have wacky questions, whatever. I mean, that might be an interesting way to take rather than phone calls, take some questions. generally, you know, people are so funny when it comes to Q&A. They're like, I'd say 85% of the time that I do a public event, people go, and we'll

have them write down questions on cards. Like, no, no, it just doesn't work. Yeah, it has to be a human being with a question that's meaningful to that person and they have to want an answer. And that interaction has to be there. It just doesn't work. Well, you're kind of card. You're competing with your own suggestion then.

So don't do it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't get me wrong. So a question on a card is the same thing as asking GROC. I mean, you might as well ask GROC or whatever, chat GPT. But a person, door had to slam, huh? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's interesting.

So your wife just left, right? Yeah, yeah. Now, listen, hold on, Joe, sorry for jumping in. I have to say this. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm better than everybody. but there is no such thing as me leaving a hotel room and all I do is stay in hotel rooms with opening the door and not holding my foot there to soften the impact.

And I don't care if I'm meeting Mike in the lobby at 5 a.m. Or it's fucking high noon. I put my foot there every single time. I remember having this conversation with you about the fire door and the weight and the sound. in 1996. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Well, it's a metal frame on a solid core inch and three quarter timely door and jam with a pneumatic closer and a two-hour burn rating. And that makes out. Now, the notion of doing it when your husband is eight feet away on a podcast is clinically insane. It means you're insane. But it's all. And people do this all. day, every day. It's, I, I, I, it's not a bad person. It's a person that doesn't really, it's a situational awareness thing, right? I would, oh, yes. And I would argue that women are more prone to

this. Yes. It's when you're in your own head. Right, right. And you're not really thinking about it. Right. Right. A more, a more detailed example of this is I stand between people, while they have a conversation and explain to each person what the other person is saying. If you get confusing people together, if you get like Mike August together with Nate, you have to stand in between them and explain to both of them what the other one is saying. And the most extreme examples of that stuff is texting. They're up in some other thought, and you're trying to get a clarification from something they said just now.

But I would argue it's not strictly a woman male thing because Daphne, I suspect, doesn't really do that. I think she's aware of her environment, the vast majority of the time. Well, she engages in it, not as, not as everyone does, except for me, to a certain degree. It's like a percentage. Now, is that, is that I was something else happening the other day, what was I was thinking about during the middle of the night? And I thought, oh, that's my low self-esteem. And so I wonder if some of this for you and me, like this is like unthinkable is our low self-esteem stuff.

I'll tell you what I have in a world where people all think I'm a self-absorbed doucheback. I will not want to leave stuff out, mess with stuff. I tidy up my hotel room before I leave. I tidy it up. I don't make the bed. but if there's a water bottle that's sitting on the desk and, you know, a cup from the coffee maker, I rinse it out. I literally, I do a little sweep and I clean up. For no reason other than, I don't know, whoever's coming in here to clean up shouldn't be throwing away my water bottle.

I don't know why. But I will definitely do that. But I forget people's birthdays. Yeah, but it's out of respect to that person, the person cleaning the room, whatever. Now, but, but I would, this is what kind of I was thinking about in the middle of night. Somebody disrespecting me, I got no real feelings about it or I don't, you know, it doesn't really register the way I see it does with some people. I had a great in the, in the, in the, in the pantheon of people.

And I realized how everyone speaks in a weird, weird way now. but in the pantheon of that, I was talking to a young person who worked here. And I said, said, he was going to go do a podcast. And I said, where's that at? And he said, Barry's house. I said, do I know Barry? And he goes, no. I don't know where that podcast is.

And then I said, so it's an interesting thing. I literally go down the road with people on stuff. Yeah, I've seen you. And then I, and then he goes, I'm doing stuff. stand up tonight. I go, where? And he goes, Ventura, Ventura Boulevard. Now, Ventura Boulevard runs through like 17 cities, right? Right. So I go, what city? And he goes, what city are we in now? And I go, yeah. That's like a seat from airplane. What city's my warehouse is?

I go, blend out. I go, okay, just checking. That's so good. I have no idea why people engage in that kind of discussion, but many, many, many, many people do, which is an interesting, it's interesting. Fantastic. It happens. Oh, God, I had a good one. I had a good one with, oh, yeah, my good, I had a good one with Mike.

I didn't think I told you this. Did I tell you this? No. Okay. Now, I never know if people are just sleepwalking through conversations or, they're actually forming answers that they think you want. You know what I mean? Right.

But Mike said to me last week, he said, I talked to the, oh, God, it was a California post people, the California post people. And they got some ideas about you doing some stuff. And I said, all right. Well, the guy's going to take it, talk to his board guys, and then he's going to get back to us. And then I go, okay, when's he going to get back to us? And Mike goes after he talks to his boardcast.

What's a hospital? Right. It's like, is that, you really think that's what I was said? But here's my point. Oh, it's so good. Well, also, it's me. It's me. It's me.

I know, I heard you. I heard what you said. Yeah. But it's me. But anyway, I'd never know if people are. actually providing an answer in their mind or they're just sort of, you know, kind of, you know, you know, they're, you know, like when you see a guy and he's like watching the game and he's on the phone with his kid, you know, and it's like, all right, there you go. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, okay. Good for you. Yeah, there you go. It's not really saying. He's completely checked out, right? This is not that. Not with, this is Mike. You know what I mean? This is this is. This is not inconsistent with his manner of speech. Right.

So does he think I'm asking for him to repeat the thing he said four seconds earlier? And does my young employee think I'm asking what city my warehouse is in? But I always go to, let's say with Mike, how he must be having conversations with people where he's so used to people not listening to him, that that is what he is. they're looking for. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's, that is,

it might be more of an indictment of the world than, than Mike. Right. Yeah. I'll like to say it's an indictment of the world. All right.

We'll take a quick break. We've got some, um, updates with this Nick Reiner business. Yeah. Right after this. Tempo. Well, this time of year,

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So much. It's in the court. I guess we got a clip of it, according to Andrew, so we'll try. Let's listen. Plan that for you. Good morning, Your Honor. I'm here today on our behalf of Mr. Reader.

He's present. Important question. Thank you. Good morning, Your Honor. The Vialian. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Reiner.

And how would you like to proceed at this time, counsel? The court has, and I'll just make a good. record the court has we address the request for media recovery coverage off the record court just orders that there's no live streaming and no life transfer no live transmission and no filming of anyone in the gallery we'd like to go forward with the arraignment of this one thank you and on behalf of mr. Reiner G way forward reading the plate advisement of rights including

armed forces of veterans rights enter a plea of not guilty denying any and all special allegations enhancements and fires yes sir a plea of not guilty is entered on behalf of mr. Mr. Reiner, Council's requesting April 29th as your of 30th. April 29th, 2026 as a zero of 30 calendar days? Yes. And Mr. May I take that a waiver from your plaintiff? Yes, sir.

Mr. Reiner, you are entitled to a Speedy. Speedy Gonzalez. He looks a little crazed to me, as far as I can tell. Well, I mean, he would be in terrible shape just in the. standpoint of drug detox and, you know, affect, you know, his mood and grief and just finding out his parents were dead, even if he believes he didn't do it, would be enough to put this guy in that kind of shape and the drug withdrawal. I mean, look, as soon as he, you know where they got him, the cops got him at MacArthur Park. And people go to MacArthur Park to score meth.

So he just immediately went back to wherever he was getting drugs, which is presumably. Well, hold on. They also go there to leave cakes out. Okay. And also to sell stuff on the sidewalk. Come on, Drew. Did you not get that? I did not get that. Oh, my God.

Wow. Let's try to figure this one out. Yeah, or why I didn't get it. Well, first off, we have discussed this subject way more than once in our pairing over the years. Leave a cake out. I'm trying. I really am. I know.

Let's get to it. I want to know. You know, Andrew's theory is you're too smart. That's not your theory. Well, no, his theory is you're too smart to act smart. You're too smart not to act dumb. And then he includes himself in that pairing. So he thinks you're too smart to act smart. And then he explains how you guys are sympathic.

Yeah. I'll go there. All right. Now, what is the reference? Leave a cake out. give me a give me a something like i because my head my kid i might my head was still at mccarthy park right which is a good place to score drugs yes and a good place to leave a cake out so you have to kind of go well what the hell would adam be talking about like what yes that's what i'm

doing right so he's leaving a cake out but it's also you're the right age and we have discussed this subject way more than once. I believe you. We have discussed this song. Also was used, I believe. I'm looking at you, Chuck. I believe this song was used. I did not see it.

I heard somebody say that a figure, our figure skater who won the gold dance to this song. Oh, that's interesting. That's what I heard, but it was the, it was the Donna Summer version. of it, but we can look for that. All right, Drew. Let me just say it in my defense.

And this is not, hang on first one sort of contextual thing. You learned lyrics. You're obsessed over lyrics. I don't think I weren't my entire youth. I don't think there's a single song that I could reliably reproduce the lyrics of. So you never, you wouldn't like if I said, do you know the song stairway to heaven? You'd go, you mean, ma-mo, ma-a-m-m-oh. No, I'd know a couple.

words from and stuff, but I wouldn't be able to reliably give you the lyrics, no. Wow. Except climbing a stairway to heaven, you know. She danced. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. She danced to the song? All right.

I watched it. And I watched it. Oh, Drew. Now, now, you and I have talked about this, let's see. Was it Richard Burton who did the original one? What? This is getting weirder by the second. You and I have talked about this a million times.

This is like from Camelot? What the hell are we talking about? Oh, Richard Harris. God damn it. I get the Richard Harris and the Richard Burton screwed up. They both sung, right? Yeah, yeah. Richard Harrison was in the play, and I think Richard Harris was in the movie of Camelot.

Oh, is that true? I think that's, if somebody, Andrew looked that up, I think that's true. All right. Anyway, there was a very popular song. called MacArthur Park later covered by Donna Summer, dance to most recently by Olympic gold medalists. I don't know why we had to take that off the screen. Right. Yeah. And a popular piece of Americana, which you and I have discussed many times because the lyric is someone left the cake out in the rain is the main lyric from MacArthur Park.

That's a familiar lyric. Yes, it is. I would not have able to place it. No, I know you know. I know, yes, it's, you know, I know it. It's in your head somewhere. We'll play you. I don't know if we can clear the song or whatever.

I don't know. But now, I wouldn't have said it. First off, I never say stuff you can't get. you don't get any of it you always say listen it's worse than that you always say stuff I should get that's what I'm saying I listen I wouldn't do this shit

here's the whole thing I don't go into the other room I don't go to the other room and do this shit with Daphne because I'll just assume she doesn't know that song right yeah I do it with you because I know that at some point when I tell you you'll go oh yeah because it has been discussed more than once with us which means it's rattling somewhere around

in your bean that's all i'm saying it's it's up there somewhere so the question is can we can we pull it out not in this case that's a great a song of all of all time all right um richard burton plays played Arthur and Camelot. On the on the on the on the stage, but I think Richard Harris did it in the movie. Well, that was the question. Yes. To, uh, Andrew.

I'm pretty sure that's what happened, I think. All right. And Julie Andrews played it on the stage and Vanessa Redgrave played it. I don't know why. I know that. You know that? No, I don't know that. I don't know that.

Please, Andrew, check me on that. I may be wrong. Check him. Drew knows. he comes from theater. Yeah. Harris played Arthur in the film. Yeah, okay.

So you're right. And then Vanessa Redgrave played the Fade Quinevere. I've never seen either one of those. But I do know, I do know MacArthur Park, and I do know the Donna Summer covered in. You see how our brains focused on weirdly different stuff? Mine, I'll grant you, is way more gay.

but but I know that stuff I'm not saying you don't know anything I'm saying my batting average when I when people tell me I don't know that song I've never seen that commercial I don't know what that campaign is I go yes you do yeah and they go now I don't my banner is 100% when I show those people that I will tell you what commercial and song on television I I've had that experience with you many times. But lyrics, like the popular music lyrics, I just didn't pay any attention to that shit. I just didn't. Yeah, but see, Drew. I heard the refrain. I mean, someone let the kick out in the rain. I'm not basing it on you knowing lyrics from 60s popular songs. I'm basing this on us having this discussion over under seven times in the 25 years we've been working together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm basing it on us in a discussion. Let's just say I didn't know. I didn't know it was coming back around, even though it did several times. No, you knew. I told you earlier in the first half that I was tested for dyslexia, and you said, I remember us talking about this back in the day, which would have been a subject that you'd be inherently more interested in than MacArthur Park. That's right. That's exactly right.

You do remember the stuff that you're interested in. Yes. And McArthur Park is like the Camelot story. Same deal. Like the Camelot and dyslexia. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Hot topics these days. Yeah. What I'm saying is remember everything, true. All right. The take, what is your, what is your take on what's going on with Nick? Oh, yeah. Reiner. We were talking about Nick Ryan.

Oh, we got to prioritize. Nick Ryder to Camelon. Hold on. We got a song from 1967 that we need to prioritize, and then we can get to this Nick Briner business. So he went to MacArthur Park to score meth, no doubt in my mind. No doubt in my mind he was already high on meth when he killed his parents. I wouldn't be surprised.

There's no doubt in my mind that he doesn't remember doing this because it's a wild act that people black out, red out, white out, when they're doing shit like that on math. And it may be that he's convinced himself he didn't do it even. What's a red out and a white out? That people literally see all they remember is seeing white or seeing red or seeing black. They just go away. But they see a color. And red is sort of the most red or black, the more common.

And oftentimes they're accused of lying for saying that. But they certainly dissociate. They certainly are out of their heads when they do. it and meth is the drug of outrageous wild violence. That's that drug. And as soon as this happened, I went meth. No doubt my mind. Well, thank God. There's so many homeless people who are high on meth who have weapons. Well, this is this is the other thing that that people don't understand. Meth, smoking meth can take people to the streets in easy, two months, easy. It just takes people to the streets. I don't know why that happens. But they're, they're always like what you hear.

here is, the story you'll hear is, well, she's a 38-year-old school teacher and she's got a kid, and now she's homeless. She lost her job. What they leave out is she started smoking meth, lost her job, and then six weeks later is on the street, and the husband took the kid. They always leave that out, and it just drives me insane. And of course, the patients, the individual, the meth addicts minimize it. Well, I did a little meth, but what's a big deal, you know? I think Obama calls it houseless now, by the way. These are people who don't have a house. By the way, nobody...

Saving lies, man. He's saving lies. You know, it's always funny that we call it homeless because nobody works in this building owns a home. It's like the average home in Los Angeles is $1.8 million. Certainly not a house, even if they had a home. You know what I'm saying? It wouldn't be a house. It would be a condo or something.

It wouldn't have a house, even if you did have a home. I think that's what I just said. Nobody here owns a home. No, you said a home, yeah. And I was referring back to Obama saying houseless. And I'm saying, well, for God's sake. No, no, they don't have a house. I don't know what terms when a house and a home is, but nobody here owns a home.

They're all home. House is a, in my thinking, home is a place to hang your hat that you own. House is a place on a piece of property that you own. Well, they're all, I would call them homeless and houseless. I don't know. Yeah, I guess they, they're apartment dwell. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Which is probably smart these days, frankly. And by the way, this is an interesting topic. I was listening to women the other day. She was so worried. I'm sorry about the next generation. You know, 28-year-old, 30-year-old kids, they can't afford a house. They can't afford a house. I thought, did you even think about affording a house when you were 30 and 32?

It was like, no. Wait, hold on. Did I? Yeah. Did I think about owning a house when I was 30 or 32? Or 28, 28, 28. You were 28, let's say. I lived in a succession of apartments and, like, rented rooms and rental houses and just a whole hodgepodge of like somebody's daughter would go off to college and I would just rent her room.

You know, kind of. So that's how I lived. But I, well, I never, I'm sort of hiccuping here because I, houses were more. much less expensive back then here. Yes, but they still seemed unreachable to me. No, it was, well, I got my first house shortly after I got into show business and I went really hard after my first house. And I had my home improvement sort of background.

So it was like it really would be smart for me to get a house and put some sweat equity into it, blah, blah, blah. But no, I think my objection is the 30-32 part, the 27-28 part. I was just living in apartments and other people's houses, stuff like that. But I didn't expect to live in a nice house in Studio City or the Hills. I expected to find some fixer-upper and Chatsworth or something for 90 grand. Exactly. That's right.

That's exactly where pretty much everybody I knew was at. And then if you needed to have an affordable area, you'd move. You'd move to an affordable area. And now I would add there's even a third component, which is houses are a huge liability now, both in terms of property tax, in terms of a market crash, in terms of upkeep and water. It's like, who wants, why would you want a house? So I think people need to kind of get a reframe on that. the whole housing thing, at least unless you want it, then move.

Then there'll be places you can afford it. I think, and I think a lot of them think about a house, like they think about a car. They don't even want it. I just want to take an Uber and rent. Yeah. And I agree with you in many respects, but the generational wealth part is the part where you need to get a house going, get some ownership of something going, develop some equity and then you can kind of take loans based on it and build some generational whatever,

you know. And I think the problem with a lot of communities is they don't have any generational anything, you know. But remember, that's your, that's again, as you're a frame, you can also invest in business and then markets and there's ways to do that without having a hard asset. You know, those are liquid so you can get money in and out of those things. So, so. Yeah, but I, I, I, more financial literature.

literacy and more more creativity with the by the way this country has always been about that what who do you think moved across the west people like that they can't afford here let's go get some land out in oklahoma yeah i get it all right quick break right back after this hey this is adam corolla from the adam corolla show prediction markets talk outcomes bet online puts odds behind them for decades betters have trusted bet online for accurate lines, deep prop markets, and real money action across every major sport. Get the latest odds, live props, in-game betting, and expert pricing throughout the season and beyond. And when you're ready for a different kind of thrill, bet online casino delivers nonstop action and premium rewards. Don't guess with the crowd.

Bet with the book that's been doing it right for years. Bet online, the game starts here. All right. So you think Nick Reiner doesn't know that he killed his parents? I'm certain he doesn't remember. Yes. And if they want to go, maybe they have, I don't, you know, we had to ask our friend Mark Garry.

about this. Maybe then by reasons of insanity comes later. You know what I mean? Maybe that's something they add into the case later. But he was certainly as far into insane as you could possibly be. The fact that he went somewhere else, you know, he left the scene. And if there's any evidence of cleaning up the scene or whatever, it would be evidence of consciousness of guilt, which would take away the insanity or mitigate the insanity plea. But he didn't run away. He went to get more drugs. And I would argue that's insane. That's about as crazy as you get. So here we are.

So they caught him in MacArthur Park several hours later? Don't remember, again, what are the, Andrew, what's going on there? I think it was like a while later, like eight hours later or something. Yeah, but not days. No, not days, not days. We know he wasn't going there to score some cake. He was going to leave a cake. That's what you do

All right What else you're thinking about Drew I'm thinking about Well you and I really haven't dug into Epstein very much Mexico I think about Epstein And we haven't really gone into Epstein Oh, exposition park Oh is that where he went?

Yeah, ruined my whole cake thing Damn it Are you sure that I thought I heard he was at a They got him right outside of MacArthur. But again, these are all famous drug places. But MacArthur's more the one. All our parks are drug places out here in Los Angeles.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And homeless encampments, because that's who's there. Now, Drew, if they'd found him in Palisades Park, uh-oh. It would have been found by Freddie Boom Boom Cannon. No, nothing. No, nothing.

Andrew, who sung the song Palisades Park? That's the question. All right, continue. Yeah. So, Epstein. So, first of all, I am sort of stunned by the energy it's creating. It's been around for a long time. There have been books written about it.

There are people that have sorted through this in the past. I think really that new, although it's more hard evidence. What are you going to say? I was going to say it's kind of clear to me that nobody on the right or the left has any real concern for crimes or victims or stolen youth. It's all how much they can pin on the other side. It's basically, you know, you basically got Trump on one side. You got the Clintons on the other side and each side is trying to pin stuff to them and clearly only interested in that aspect of it. Yeah. And at the same time, though, I really feel like there's a new sort of wind, an emotional wind blowing as it pertains to Epstein, which is people want blood. People want some sort of, quote, justice. They want some indictments. They want, you know, the victims to be, get some justice. But my understanding, it's, here's the complexities as I understand it. And I may be wrong.

that a lot of the victims have made settled with lots of money in question and are not going to speak up at all, okay? And also these are, you know, snippets of emails and pictures and things. How hard must it be to build a case, a crime, criminal case. Obviously, it's happening in Denmark and it's, sorry, Netherlands, it's happening in England. And the fact that it's not happening here is what has people sort of, mortified. Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't have super strong takes on this like I do and many other

subjects. Why do you think that is? That's kind of interesting in itself. You know, it's like the whole Nancy Guthrie missing, whatever. I really don't have a take on it. I'm, I'm not interested in it from a change standpoint, you know. So is it, is it that we are all so swept into hysterias that these things just catch on or we're hysterical about everything, including the snow in New York City and Nancy Guthrer,

it's hysterical? Or are we hungry for something other than politics to put our attention on? I don't, you know, I can't fully explain. what I'm interested in and what I'm not interested in, but I'm far more interested in electronic freeway signs in Los Angeles than I am. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm interested in things that make life better for us. Well, and also stuff I can control, or we can control. I can't control these things.

They happen. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I wish they didn't happen, but I can't control them. And I don't know who can. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't really, somebody breaks into someone's house in the wee hours and snatches up an elderly person and takes off. I don't know how preventable that is from a societal standpoint.

But there's lots of other stuff that is preventable. and my interest is in that stuff. I have almost no reaction to anyone breaking a dish or plate or a model or a vase, or even if I love it. I have no reaction to anything after it happened. I do have like a strong reaction before it happened, like of what we need to do to prevent this from happening. Andrew, Palisades Park, Freddie Boom, Boom Cannon.

is that the right do i got the right guy to sing that song all right put on the screen freddie boom boom cannon a couple of hits had a couple of hits mm-hmm all right so epstein i i don't talk about it that much also i don't want to sound like a blow hard but i'm not interested in not having great or passionate takes about things you know what i mean like my feeling is is I don't everyone feels like they need to weigh in on everything like oh they are ex everyone's you know everyone in hollywood's an expert on ukraine all of a sudden and they're expert on ivermectin and they're expert on covid they're expert on palestine everyone's a fucking expert on everything in the last 10 minutes the FCC or trump this or

middle eastern policy they they know everything right uh i don't really wait into stuff that I don't have a strong take on. You know what I mean? Like, hey, Adam, what's your hot take on Nancy Guthrie? I don't have one. Somebody took her. May it have been a family member. Don't know.

May have been a homeless guy. I don't know. Maybe it's the cartels. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have any insights on this. Well, even more, how could you? Well, yeah, but everyone had an insight on Ukraine 10 minutes after. that skirmish started.

That's sort of disgusting, actually. I'm disgusted when people very complex historical or medical or pharmacological sort of phenomena and people have who have never heard, never thought about Ukraine, never been to Ukraine, never heard the word hydroxychloroquine before. And next day, strong opinion. That's disgusting. No, I don't want to be in that group. I agree.

I agree. And I don't have any strong takes on that either. And so I only or I try to limit myself to talking about stuff I'm right about. Which I appreciate. Well, it'd be nice if more people did that. Yeah, like important stuff, like song lyrics. But because look, I'm a douchebag. I'm a blow hard as many.

think I talk into a mic all day every day. There should be a steady stream of compilation videos on YouTube about shit I'm wrong about. Or that you've changed your mind about because you're being accused of, man, you've changed. I flipped to like you until. Yeah, either shit that I flip flopped on or just was way off on, on whatever my, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's a hundred thousand hours of me talking to a microphone about COVID. There should be some stuff thrown in my face about it, but there isn't.

That seems to be heating up again for some reason. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, a little bit. It might have been Peter McCullough went out and took on Fauci hard. And I realized when I saw both sides lighting up, I thought, I'm still a moderate on all of it. I just want to see the evidence. You know, I just just all I know is something went very, very, very, very wrong and people who had certitude all the way were wrong on either side but especially the certitude that'll end up with our civil liberties being taken away from us look here's here's in a nutshell here's what happened it became politicized early and yeah and the people that hold on were supposed to be agnostic politically like fouchy and rachel willinsky and even even many news outlets were not

politically neutral at all. So they all took aside and then it basically just became, you know, Fauci against Joe Rogan or something because they politicized everything. And then once you politicize everything, then you're forced to do what Fauci did, which is condemned church meetings and shut down schools and synagogues, but not condemned Black Life Matter marches. And that's, that's when you know he's been corrupted by the politics of what this is. And Rochelle Walensky explained to keep the schools, reopen the schools, and then saying, don't open the schools after the teachers' unions got to her means it was politicized. So it was the politicizing of it that turned the info wrong because now Fauci is no longer doing his job.

He has to do his job and run interference for the Democratic Party. And so does. And Rochelle Walensky has to do her job at the CDC and run interference for teachers' unions. And now you're going to get misinformation. And then you're going to start talking about putting boards together for miss and disinformation and everything. And now we're getting into La La Land at this point. But Fauci is going to go the same direction as the Clintons historically. Yes.

Only one direction. It'll get a little bit worse. I'll put it to you this way. Every year, every month, the Fauci's around, and every month the Clinton's around, it gets a little bit worse. It never goes the other way. Yeah. And I would argue that I don't know if I've made this explicit on this program before or not. I don't remember.

but that we lived, I did, I, and most, I would say, vast, fast, vast majority of Americans did not know the world we lived in. Now, I agree. And Fauci knew the world he lived in, and he knew what he had to protect. Or even Wollinsky, talk about the teachers union, and how they work, how the NGOs work, and how they launder money to the parties and how they wield their power. We don't know anything about that. Well, I would argue that three things have blown.

loan the lid off that, and they've all three done us a huge favor. A, COVID. It was as bad as it was, it was enlightening. And we're just talking about one little piece of it today. Number two, the fraud that's been uncovered. Holy shit, it's hallucinating what the amount of fraud and the way our money is being misappropriated. And number three, Epstein files. Amongst those three things, we have this vista now of how the world has been operating and it is not okay. disgusting. Yes, it's basically all we've been doing is sitting at the ballpark, eating hot dogs, and enjoying ourselves. And at some point, we just got a tour of the Hormel factory where they make the hot dogs. And we're like, holy God. Yeah. And we've been paying for a lot for those hot dogs. Right.

Pay and pan, pan, pan, right. And it was explained that everything was wholesome and good and natural. And now we just got a tour. And we are disgusted by it. And, yeah, I'm now realizing that anything has to do with money just gets immediately corrupted. Money in government. Money in government. Although I would argue too, by billionaire people too, the billionaires thing. Oh yeah, no, money, government, no, cartels, whatever. People.

All things money. Too much money. There is a thing. There's such a thing as too much money. I used to just think it was limited to sort of rich whitey. And I now realize it's women. It's black. Hispanics. It's every everything now is corruptible.

Big money. Yes. Very, very easily. And the only remedy that I can think of now is cutting off the money. I can't, cleaning up the system. The system. Of course. Well, but here's what I'm saying. They're misusing it.

No, no, but here's what I'm saying. They go, look, we're going to keep the money flowing, but we're going to clean up the system. My argument is the system creates this. You cannot clean. It's inherently flawed. Well, the USAID, gone, right? You take the Medicare, Medicaid fraud, take those, gone. Take those things away.

Take them away. Oh, yeah. No, you have to take everything away because it's immediately corrupted. And it shall be. And it's not criminal masterminds. It's just moms do it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. There's one bit of sort of behavioral economic research that keeps me up at night. If humans have an opportunity to cheat or steal and they have a good opportunity to do it, 60 to 80% of the time, they will do it. Yeah. And they don't even think about it. I mean, like I said, like I think a lot of these people engage in this, are a lot of women, a lot of moms, a lot of folk. It's not, it's not, these aren't, these aren't bond villains or criminal masterminds. Formerly, we made them into criminals.

Oh, listen, get divorced in California and see how fast your ex-wife turns into a criminal. They turn her into a horrible person. That's, they turn them into it. That's, now the person is weak, but everyone is weak. So you tell me. All right. I'm sad. This is sad.

This is a sad conversation. Well, no. All it means is. people are weak, people lack character, people lack religion, and they lack discipline, and they lack structure, and we must create it for them now. Well, there's an easy thing you can do because it's practically true, which is make every choice of every minute, every day, as though there's a video running on you, and that you can defend your choices. And virtually, that's the case. So you might as well just adopt

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