The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2076 - Make Love AND War | Part 2
Episode Date: March 9, 2026Dr. Drew opens up about the difficult realities of aging as they talk about the importance of sleep, having a solid base of work in your life, and going through real struggles when you’re y...oung. Adam and Drew react to Joe Biden explaining why he ran for president, cringe their way through hyper-woke actor awards clips, and talk about Drew rewatching the Pee-wee Herman documentary. They close by lamenting today’s ugly, uninspired architecture and Adam shares memories of his beloved dog Phil after his passing.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.
You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show.
Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the church. Get it on. Doctor's board certifies in. He's Dick Spack. Dick Specialist? He's a Dick Specialist.
Oh, yeah. All right. So, God, I have been.
have you been traveling a lot? I've been traveling a lot. Yes, I've been traveling a lot. And it
got to me, I got an episode of diverticulitis, which I'm trying to recover from now, which is
brutal. This whole aging thing is just, I'm kind of obsessed with it because my tolerance of it
is so low. And I don't know how to, I don't know how to pace myself, bottom line. You know,
we just go, go, go. We've been going for a lot of years. Yeah. And, and, you know, and,
I like it.
I don't dislike it.
But your body, a certain point, goes,
reminds me of a patient of mine who was an international traveler.
And every time she'd come home now from, you know,
a significant trip, pneumonia within three days.
And I mean, this is my version of that now, which is.
Yeah.
Well, you have, unfortunately, something to be triggered to.
I don't really have something preexisting to be triggered to.
Right.
So I don't get triggered that way.
Can you tolerate as much as you used to?
I mean, you know, you used to just do whatever.
Does it get you?
I can tolerate, yes, I can do everything.
I probably am a little more sleep reliant than I was,
even though I never was operated very well off a three-hour sleep.
But I could kind of pull it off a little more,
probably less discomfort.
I can, if there, if sleep is factored in, if I can get a full charge, then I can keep going and do
about anything.
Yes, I'm the same way.
But physically, you know, I do the treadmill with an incline at three and a half miles an hour
for half an hour or whatever.
And, you know, I call the day.
I'm not playing rugby or anything.
But I, you know, I mean, all things being equal, I am able to burn that candle.
And it doesn't, and it, for me, it, you know, it, it translates into, you know, sometimes 18, 21 days straight of work.
But work, you know, work isn't that intense.
You know, I'm pretty, you know, it's not, it's not that taxing.
It involves some travel and some thinking.
Do you think that because both of us have had real jobs of one type or another,
makes everything else seem so much easier or enjoyable?
Oh.
You're sort of grateful for what we do as opposed to what we could be doing?
You've got to have a base.
I realize people don't, don't have a base of work.
you know, like of hard work.
So I don't, you know, I don't, there's a, there's a problem with no baseline.
Everyone, everyone needs to sort of set a base for sort of general happiness.
And, I mean, your base.
You mean have worked very, very hard at one time?
I don't know.
I think so.
I mean, what it is is like, if you traveled back to 1866 and lived there for a month,
then when you got back to modern times,
you'd probably appreciate your cell phone more and your television more, whatever.
But when you're just sort of living with your cell phone and your television, you don't appreciate.
You know, like I hear people get very animated about airline travel, you know,
like the flight was delayed or canceled.
They get very upset.
It's like, tell that to the fucking Donner party.
Jesus Christ, you guys have no thoughts.
You know, it's going to set you back.
First off, it's going to fuck you up by an hour and a.
half, maybe two hours, you can go sit over there at the bar and have a drink and watch TV.
It's like, really.
Well, it's back to somebody.
There's no perspective.
There's no perspective.
It's somebody we were talking about last show.
You get used to zero gravity fast.
Yeah.
So I would hope that most people, I would hope for any son or daughter to have a base.
of work and also have a base of a former life that involved some discomfort, some early mornings
and some, you know, everyone wants to go through life avoiding the shitty boss.
Shitty boss is a good thing, you know, a hard coach is a good thing, you know.
And they go, well, some, yeah, but what about if the boss becomes abusive?
That's still good.
It's still good.
because people don't have any of that anymore.
And it impedes them.
It doesn't impede me,
but it impedes them.
They're not able to do as much as they potentially...
Right, it's less rewarding.
Their life.
Yeah.
Because you're not doing as much as you could potentially do.
Yeah, but they don't know it.
That's the problem.
Anybody who was a Navy seal or even went through like some really hard two-a-day practices in football or something knows.
Like there's way more in the tank than you think there is.
My problem is being surrounded with those people and explaining them, they're okay, go ahead, go do it.
I can't, I can't.
Get up, go do it.
And then they just get angry at me.
But I've never really met anyone who couldn't actually do what we were trying to do.
Right.
They just say they can or they're going to get sick.
Yeah, they don't want to.
All right.
We're promising you about Joe Biden, who, again, everyone looks as Uncle Joe, he's moving kind of slow at the junction, petticoat junction.
But he's really pompous and he's also angry.
All the time.
Like literally someone goes, like your son.
I've never spoke to him about business one time, Bob.
Come on, fat.
Do you want to do some push-ups?
Jesus Christ.
Like, how fucking thin is his skin?
And then also, what a, like, supreme narcissist is he?
And also for a guy who, as far as I can tell, is rudderless.
I don't know.
What was Joe Biden's policy?
He would stir up racial division.
I don't know.
Well, what about economically?
Give money to people who didn't have so much money.
Bring foreigners in.
Right.
Okay.
See what happens.
Here he is talking.
Hold on.
Why he got into, why he ran for president.
He's telling this to Lester Holwell.
Lester, I got in this race early on in 2020, for the 2020 race.
I wasn't going to run again.
because I lost my son.
I didn't feel it.
And until I watched what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Those folks coming out of the woods with torches carrying swastikas singing the same Nazi
bile accompanied by this Ku Klux Klan.
And a young woman was killed.
And it was a bystander.
And the then president was asked, what do you think?
He said, they're very fine people on both sides.
I'd find people on both sides.
no excuse
hold on a second
I never
I never really got the
both sides
like
okay so
I mean but maybe you can help me
with this
yeah
if you go
all right
there's people that are Nazis
on one side
and then people that are
racial crusaders
who fight injustice
on the other side
and I go there's good people
on both sides
then I am kind of saying
the racial crusades
Sators are good people too, right?
It's a little bit of a nonsensical in a weird way.
It's not even what Trump was talking about.
No, I know.
I know it's not what he's talking about.
And Joe has access to the videotape of Trump saying he's not talking about the Nazis and the white supremacists.
He has access to it, but he chooses to lie and stir up racial division.
The fine people hoax was this ten poll hoax.
Right.
But the point is, is Joe Biden, who, by the way, has zero fucking.
dignity. Zero integrity.
Integrity. Integrity. I'm sorry.
Probably integrity. Character.
If he,
first off, he wasn't going to run because
his son died. Okay. So then
they play the sympathy card.
And then, so by the way,
he was going to let America
just crumble off into the sea because
the son died. That doesn't sound very patriotic to me.
But he wasn't because he was going to
grieve his son dying while
enriching his other son in Ukraine.
But he saw that there
were still racist that needed mopping up, so he decided to run ostensibly to fix it.
I'm guessing.
It's the perfect lie.
Except for he didn't do anything.
And all he did was stir it up by working white supremacy.
By the way, look around.
Does white supremacy appear to be the most dangerous thing in this country?
According to think about that, that's what we were hearing.
I'm more scared of trans people now than I am of the clan.
Well, statistically.
Yes.
I literally more frightened of trans,
than the clan. That's where I'm at.
You want to know why? I've never seen a Klansman.
I was going to say, do they exist anymore?
I don't know that they exist. They exist in the mind of Joe Biden.
So here's what, here's, here's, if you are Jerry Nadler, the clan exists and has never been stronger.
And Tifa is just an idea that's never existed.
So that's her one group that doesn't exist at Dritz, the group that's out in Portland fighting with everyone and bashing people their head, they don't exist.
The other people that had their last March in 1961, they do exist.
That's how he works.
You know, as it pertains to that kind of stuff, I just, I don't know if I mentioned this to you,
but I realized that there have been three sort of events in the last 10 years or seven years
that have really revealed stuff in a way that I just did not understand.
One was COVID, right?
That blew the lid off a lot of censorship nonsense by the government.
excesses of the public health system, willingness to be totalitarian on part of people like
Governor Newsom, crazy to me that we went through that.
But that wasn't where it stopped.
Then we discover fraud everywhere.
Everywhere.
Our tax dollars, no concern for what is done with the American people's money.
None.
Just wherever.
Wherever.
And then the third thing, to me, maybe it's not quite at that same level, but the Epstein
file and the way that whole elite cabal worked.
These are all gigantic reveals about our reality that I lived my whole life with no idea,
would never have imagined.
Never have imagined.
So it's kind of like, I don't know if we're going into a new era or if we're going to do
something about this or what, but it has these three, and probably there will be more,
but those three sort of phenomenon, to me,
suggests we have to do things differently.
I agree.
Well, let's at least not fight the people
that are trying to uncover the fraud.
We have Joe Biden from this past weekend,
warning that Trump's going to try to steal the next election.
And the way to show the power is vote.
Show up and vote.
And folks, we do that.
That's bad news for Donald Trump, and he knows it.
That's why he's trying to pull out more and more barriers, put him up.
He's trying to steal the election because he knows if he can't win your vote,
so he can do everything he can to prevent you from wanting to vote.
Mark my words.
I hope I'm wrong.
Why? I've been wrong about everything else.
Why wouldn't he be wrong?
This was last weekend?
Yeah.
He doesn't know what the fuck he is.
No.
But he's still an idiot.
It doesn't.
It's got to be a weird thing where you speak in a microphone for your entire life and nothing you say comes to fruition or is true.
It doesn't seem to slow them down or bother them or whatever.
Representing.
You're right.
Just representing positions, points of view, not governing.
He used to govern.
Right.
And he took some positions that are presently unpopular about crime.
Oh, yeah.
He was big on that.
Super predators.
Do you have Andrew when I was telling you about the actors awards?
I wanted to talk about that weirdly today too.
You did.
Well, not just the actors awards, but I want to dissect that whole world a little bit.
Well, here's what I come away with.
This is the Screen Actors Guild Award, right?
Was that what that was?
Yeah, they changed it from the SAG Award to the Actors Award or whatever award.
But the show starts cold open, like lights up.
I don't want to use too much terminology.
But the very beginning of the show,
it wasn't like they did a monologue
and then they threw it out here.
There's a couple of things that I glean from this.
One is like the funny thing about actors in Hollywood
and the award shows is they've been told for like the last decade, reel it in.
The whole pompous, elitist, bullshit, bad, you know,
wearing the lapel pin for Ukraine and whatever,
and ice can fuck off and stuff like that.
You're alienating all of the,
all the middle of the country.
People don't like you anymore.
They don't listen to you anymore.
So just reel it in.
Right.
And by the way, give an award to the blockbuster
and not to the small black indie film
with the gay guy struggling with sexuality.
Like, just fucking do it, would you?
Because you're losing.
You lose your business.
You're losing your business.
So it's lights up on.
actors congratulating themselves for being actors.
But if you break it down, and we'll just do it.
Starts with Chris and Wigg, I think.
I was just reading a script.
The first time I was ever on set, I was a background actor
in a movie called Tumbleweeds.
They put me so far down the beach, I couldn't hear them call action or cut,
until someone waved to me and told me when it was lunch.
I also got sung burned, stung by a bee, and had to go to the hospital.
This is true.
The next time was on the show judging Amy.
I was in the courthouse, and I was a figure
that walked behind wavy glass.
So between those two jobs, if you look really close,
you won't see me.
But just so you know, I was very happy to be there,
and I am so happy to be here tonight and say,
I'm Kristen Wigg, and I'm an actor.
I'm an actor.
Hold on, pause.
They do that stuff where they go, I love it when they cut it up.
They go, stop.
Stop. No more. No more. And five different people saying, no violence against women.
You know, they do that stupid stuff. They think that stuff's in power. All right. So then we go from her to who, what is this one's name again?
All right. We start with the-
Is it Pharrellia Davis? No. We just did a black simile.
That's where you mistake black people for other black people. Well, Andrew knows all the celebrity, so he'll put it on the screen.
Now, all right. We start with a woman, right?
Yeah. Then we go to a woman of color.
Okay.
Right. All right. Here we go.
I actually don't know this one.
Tiana Taylor.
I cried when Rose let Jack sink to the bottom.
Because we know good and well he could have fit his ass on that goddamn door.
But you know what?
I made a promise that if I ever got the chance to work with Leonardo de Caprio,
that I wouldn't let him drown.
Mm-mm.
Instead, I run off rob a bank and left him with a whole damn baby.
I am Tiana Taylor and I'm an actor.
All right.
So the grand irony is...
All right, pause it.
So we got Delroy Lindo.
All right.
So we got white chick, black chick.
Now we got to go to Black Dude.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
I'm just saying, if you start this thing with three white dudes, someone goes, sorry, we got to mix this out.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But what I'm saying is to the Academy is you guys need to mix it up a little too.
Yeah.
Because this is why people tune out.
because it feels too DEI,
even though this is symbolic,
it's not a ward or anything.
But it's a, all right, we go to Delroy.
Sorry, go ahead.
So the grand irony of my sitting here right now
and experiencing a period of wide acknowledgement
and relative success
is that it's causing me to think about the times
of my career when things weren't going so well.
Being able to look back from a place of this current success,
times that were more challenging for me,
is a testament, yes, to my own self-belief,
my ability to hang in.
But hopefully it's also an encouraging example
to all actors out there
who may currently be facing their own challenges.
I'm Delaware Lindno, I'm an actor,
and never forget, all you aspiring Thespians,
you are too.
All right, pause it.
All right, so first off, you've alienated the whole country.
It's like acting.
These guys are guys who work construction
and were injured when a beam fell on.
Right.
got strung out on Vicod and you're talking about not getting a couple of parts.
Yeah.
You know, like early your career.
But now I'm super successful.
But anyway, like, first off, it's all self-aggrandizing bullshit.
I'm an actor.
It's not a real fucking job.
No one gives a fuck.
Like, get out.
Well, this is the part of one of the...
Just hire Louis C.K.
Come out.
Roast them jokes and get the fuck.
Get, let's get this going.
But they have to do a long-winded, I am an actor.
Well, yeah.
This is what we, this is what they hate about you.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, this is what I was ruminating about, which is, I mean, just, I think we've talked about
this before, that, look, acting at one time was a profession that people were trained for,
right?
They'd portray an addiction and in expression and in Shakespeare, Alecution, my dear boy.
Yeah.
And that stopped.
And it stopped because what used to go on on a stage was they were trained like opera singers
are trained.
You know, they had to go through a row.
rigorous training program. And their success was nominal, but a new technology came in,
celluloid film. And all of a sudden, you could film something and hundreds of millions
of millions of people could see it. And they became something. They became important because of that,
which is already way, way, something's wrong with that. Yes. And then a businesses took that
over, the studios and managed these products, the talent. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
and manage them like products.
And then that broke down, and now anybody can be an actor, anybody can make a film.
And I don't know if you've watched films lately.
They're terrible.
Some, yeah, many.
I mean, I can't find anything worth watching.
It's terrible.
All right.
And so the quality has just gone, like, I don't know what they're doing anymore.
And no one wants to watch film.
They'd rather look at their phone.
They'd rather watch a little vignettes on the phone.
So let's break it down.
Let's see if I got this right, Andrew.
We got white chick at the start, black chick next, black dude next.
All right.
Now I'm watching this through the lens of whatever Hollywood.
I go, okay, you got to go to a white dude now.
Yeah.
Because we're going to need a white dude.
Yeah.
We've got to act to balance.
Okay.
Here we go.
Next person.
Oh, Ethan Hawke.
Good.
Oh, no, it's not him.
It's Kate Hudson.
Hello.
I used to get in trouble for daydreaming.
I was accused of being disruptive, irreverent, dramatic.
I was sent home from school for inappropriate terms.
All right.
So more self-aggrandizing.
But they're describing character pathology.
Yeah.
I was a behavioral problem.
Because my parents were rich and I grew up in fucking Malibu.
I started getting high when I was 11.
Which, by the way, is a lot of who became actors in the 70s and 80s,
which is people who happened to be the children of people who were in this industry.
But as long as you keep in count, it's three chicks and one dude and the dude's black.
So far.
Okay.
Okay.
Being disruptive, irreverent, dramatic.
I was sent home from school for inappropriate dress.
My makeup choices were too distracting.
I was boy crazy and too loud when I walked in a room.
Too opinionated in my ideas.
By the way, hold on a second.
opinionated people are fine as long as they're correct.
It's the ones we have a problem with is too opinionated with the shit ideas.
Right.
People do it's like, I'm too opinionating, people don't like me.
No, no, we revere people who are opinionated who have solid opinions.
Yes.
We seek their opinions.
Yes, we seek their counsel.
When they have retarded opinions, then no.
But all right, keep going.
My great relief, it turns out these are all very marketable skills.
My name is Kate Hudson.
So to be an actress, you have to be a sociopath.
Okay.
Got it.
All right.
Now we get the first white heterosexual male, but he's handicapped.
Right.
That's Michael J. Fox.
So now we do get some representation, but it's because he's checking the handicapped box.
Yeah.
Okay.
So here we go.
Do I let school?
I let school and moved from Canada to LA to try to make it as an actor.
Teacher of mine told me, Fox, you're not going to be cute forever.
I know what to say to that, so I said, maybe just long enough, sir.
After a few years of dumpster diving in L.A., I ended up on family ties,
where I received the biggest gift of my career.
I met my wife, the actor Tracy Palmer, who played Ellen, my girlfriend,
and she gave me four gifts, our kids, Skyler, Quinn, Esme, and Sam.
Sometimes I like to remind them
if we weren't for acting, they wouldn't be here.
By the way, he's not an actor.
He's just my date.
I'm brother Jake Fox and a dad
and I'm an actor.
All right, so that was
five minutes of self-congratulatory
fucking junk that wasn't funny,
poignant. But what have they done for the world?
Any of them? They've acted.
It was against the odds,
but they overcame because they're better than you are.
And they've done,
I'm just saying,
that is the reason people don't watch these shows.
Oh, for sure.
You cannot, you want an award show.
Look, back in the day, the ward show would start with Billy Crystal coming out on a horse.
And they're doing a big number.
You know what I mean?
And now this is us just sitting around congratulating ourselves.
And, yes, look, you're breaking this thing down.
The idea that it's mostly chicks and mostly,
people of color or anything
that there's
if I'm in the fucking room
I go look
you gotta show
you gotta have Mel Gibson
you gotta like one dude
you have like a one regular dude
has to
has to say
it can't be handicapped
it can't be black
it can't be gay
can't be just just a white dude
just one white dude
that'll do it
that's weird
because the weird thing is
their representation
is not really representation
anymore
because if you go
So if you break down that room, you ready?
Let's break down that room.
Okay.
That room is probably 50% plus dudes.
Yeah.
And quite a few of those dudes are white dudes.
So you're not representing anything.
You're underrepresenting those guys.
But they fashion themselves as artists.
Yes.
And they're just, they're not.
They're sort of technicians,
performers.
Yes.
They're not artists.
I mean, and even if they were artists, why do we have to listen to you?
Well, no one does.
That's why their endorsements don't work.
Oh, is that starting to happen now?
No, it already happened.
Oh, that's good.
Well, that's progress.
All right.
Who endorsed Kamala Harris?
Oh, that kind of endorsement.
They still use them to sell products and stuff.
Oh, yeah, use them sell beer or whatever.
So they're responding to something with them.
Yes.
But they know their politics are disturbed.
Yeah.
All right, take quick break.
Be right back after this.
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Let's see.
It's, you know, I rewatched the Pee We Herman documentary.
Have you seen that?
Yeah.
It was somehow really moving for me.
And this time I saw, I took a bunch more stuff away from it that I didn't.
Yeah.
First time.
I'm watching a Schwarzenegger documentary for a second time.
It's a good idea.
So good.
Yeah, you can't pick up three hours of material and one sitting.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's funny that you're doing that.
I've been thinking so much.
I know why this has been in my head lately.
I'm ruminating about crazy shit.
but him when he first found his way to that gym
where he'd put 20 sets on the chalk on the wall,
he'd knock up 20 cents of very, very heavy lifts
of different body parts.
And he just would just take him hours and hours.
You'd just do it every day.
Yeah.
That's something.
No, no, that's the intestinal fortitude we speak of.
Yeah.
There's another interesting clip from the actors.
award thing.
It's so gross.
Doesn't people feel gross?
Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, there's another thing that's weird about this,
as long as we're doing the ethnicity breakdown thing.
There's a thing that you and I wouldn't do,
but black people do it all the time,
which is they get the black presenter.
Okay.
And I don't know if this is Viola Davis.
I don't know who this is.
You can put on my screen.
She's the black.
Yeah, Viola Davis.
And she is going to announce the winner of the best actor.
The best actor categories, five actors, four white, one black.
All right, we'll watch our announce.
Can't hear it.
You are a shining herald of Michael B. Jordan.
All right.
We got to start it again.
It was a little soundish.
You are shining herald up Michael B. Jordan.
She's only the moon, right?
Yeah.
But you can pause it.
But what I'm saying is, is if there are four black actors and Matt Damon and I got up there and went,
Matt Damon, yes, yes, yes.
People go, no, you can't do that.
You can't.
Black people don't have any thoughts about like a sort of an optics thing.
Like they just go, you know, whether the mayor of Chicago or I'm just going to invite black people.
to be reporters that I'm not going to allow any white people.
It's like, okay, you think that way, but optically, you have to know what that
looks like, right?
Well, the really thing that I'll give you, we'll run it back again, sorry, it was, so
there is, the guy I know is, all right, so there's Timothy Chalamey and there's Ethan Hawke,
and then there's Leonardo DiCaprio, and the guy I think I know is Fat Damon, but I
I don't know who.
Jesse Plemons.
Jesse Plemons.
When he puts on weight, he gets big, but he still looks like Matt.
He looks like a Husky Matt Damon.
And so there's four white actors, and then there's Michael.
Fat Damon.
I don't want to be a prick, but he looks.
If you can find a picture of him when he's big, and he just looks like big Matt Damon.
Yeah, that's funny.
And I would, I'd use Husky.
If Matt Damon's first name was Musky Damon, then I'd go Husky.
Damon, but it's not, it's mad.
It was unfortunately rhymes with fat.
I knew him from Breaking Bad, so I used to call him meth
Damon. Oh, that makes sense.
He was in Saturday Night Lights or something, one of those
football Friday Night Lights. Oh, wait, am I getting the wrong guy?
This isn't Fat Damon? No, it is.
Oh, it is. The guy was in the end of the world movie,
or the Civil War movie. No, I'm sorry, the Civil War movie. Right, yeah.
Yeah, okay. If you find a Husky. Anyway, the point is
I would say, if I was married to Viola Davis, I would go, listen, if Michael B. Jordan wins, don't jump up and down.
It's going to look optically kind of weird.
We can watch it.
It's kind of funny now.
You are shining herald of Michael B. Jordan.
What does she say?
You're a shining herald.
I don't exactly know that beginning part is.
Yeah.
And I'm going to let it run, I guess.
Let's see.
And by the way, oh, oh, bad Damon won.
By the way, calm down.
It's not Academy War.
He is fucked.
By the way, I heard this movie.
No one tells me this movie was good.
Which movie is it?
Sinners.
And everyone's like, you don't have to see this movie.
And I'm like, it's more nominated than any movie he's ever been nominated.
And everyone's like, yeah, no, it's not that good.
It's weird.
And you know what else is really?
All right.
So, anyway.
Shitty about films is screenwriting.
The storytelling, the screenwriting is so bad.
That's why I can't watch films anymore.
I tried to watch three movies on a plane last night.
Couldn't do it.
I watched one with the sound off.
I usually watch it with the sound off.
I watch it with the sound off.
Because visually, they're kind of interesting.
Yeah, upper left.
Let's see if it upper left looks like.
Gotta go bring on it.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, my fat Damon said,
You're not going to do any better than that.
Yeah, it's fat damon.
Well, he lost the weight.
You know, we can joke now.
Do you remember where you made the comparison?
Oh, gosh, it was the football receiver and the, I'm going to screw this out.
Yeah, you are.
You're already screwing.
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about?
I always know what you're talking about.
You never know what I'm talking about.
That's a problem.
I know what you're talking about and you don't know what I'm talking about and you don't know what you're talking about.
You know what I know what I think I'm talking about.
about it. Yes, you're talking about
Chris Carter and Godzuki.
Yes. Put those two up.
Well, it's going to take. They sent
the computer somewhere. He said that out of the
blue one night. I love when I'm like, we were all like,
what? No, I don't know what?
Well, look, my
greatest achievement
is
James von Pragg
as gay Larry Zonka.
Oh. I'd never
heard that one. That's a good one.
computer somewhere, because otherwise you just have that. It's a deep cut, too. It is my greatest
achievement. Far beyond anything professionally I've ever achieved is, is gay. There it is.
There it is. Well, older Zonka, too. You got to get not NFL Zonka. It's just he's gay Larry Zonka.
Oh, it's fantastic. Chuck doesn't know what Larry Zonka is, so it doesn't really happen.
I don't think any of these guys would know.
Anybody know Larry Zonka?
Jim Kick, you know, Jim Kick is?
No.
It's a deeper cut.
Undefeated season, Miami Dolphins.
11-0 and O.
He's still gay.
Back when they had only 11 games.
Still, yeah, but the playoffs, too.
Yeah.
Still gay Larry Zonka.
All right.
So.
So good.
What else?
So I was in the, I gave a little brief talk at Marlago this week.
Oh, yeah.
And that's really quite an interesting place.
For a million reasons.
The first reaction I had was, holy shit, people would build stuff like this for themselves.
It's like it's a museum.
It's not a gigantic house.
It's like it's a work of art.
And then where I spoke was in the ballroom.
And I thought, oh, this is this is going to be like what the White House is going to get.
It's very similar because he added that on to the Marilago situation.
And one of the things that struck me was he's got all that gold, you know, those gold, what do you call those sort of, he plastered a bunch of gold forms onto the several of the rooms in the West Wing.
These sort of, what do you call those?
Well, the inlays, tapestries.
sconces or something.
I don't know.
Not sconces.
That's usually a light thing.
There is frescoes,
but that's maybe not it.
Anyway.
Anyway, he's got those all over the place.
And I thought, God, people were so shitty
when he did that at the White House.
But he did it before gold,
like quadrupled in price.
I mean, it's just crazy.
Now it looks sort of appealing
by, anyway.
The whole thing down there is just fascinating.
The fact that he thought to buy that, he bought it for almost nothing, turned it into a club.
It's really an interesting sort of master class in real estate development.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
And the fact that it survived, you know, didn't get torn down and somebody used that property for some piece of shit, you know, 1980s version of a big house.
Yeah, because that thing's probably built in the 20s.
In the 20s.
I don't know for certain, but it looks like it.
But I just, I don't, why can't we build like that anymore?
Is it just, well, you know, if you think about it, you picture the Obama library.
Yeah.
And then you picture what Trump wants to build for the ballroom.
And that's basically the difference between the two parties.
One is like stark and kind of depressing and austere and, you know, a little ominous.
It's sort of just, looks like dystopian.
Death Star.
It's got a little, when you see at least the outside of Obama's library, it looks.
There it is.
Yeah, there's pictures of it that are further along than this.
But what I'm saying is, is it looks like a dystopian future.
Like I told everyone when Obama got up there and he's like, we are three days away from fundamentally change.
I'm like, I don't want fundamental change.
And I don't want you to fundamentally change this country.
You can fix some things that need to be fixed and do some trims and some nips and some tucks.
But I don't want to fundamentally change my son or my daughter.
I got a couple of pointers for him, but I don't have a fundamental change.
You want to fundamentally change the greatest country in the world?
Fuck you.
And that was his plan.
What's crazy is things have been uncovered, as we were discussing earlier, that do need fundamental change.
Yes.
But it's not the sort of corruption.
Yes.
Yes, it's not.
How it's been corrupted from its original.
He's talking about racism, but that's not what I mean.
But his version of the future is that structure, and Trump's version of the future is basically
the rearview mirror to go back to the glory days, so to speak.
So that architecture in the ballroom versus the library are basically, if you go, those are
the fundamental extremes of each party.
Those are sort of the thought leaders from each side.
So if you just took people from a different era, a different age, a different culture, and showed them, there's better pictures of Obama's museum, by the way.
And you just showed them that.
You go, this is what one side wants.
I mean, this is kind of where they believe the future lies.
This is what they believe this should look like.
Right.
This is what the country should look like this.
And the other one, show them the other ballroom and go, show them the ballroom and go, that's what this country.
That's what the other side wants the country to look like.
Right.
And then I think most people would go, I'll take the ballroom.
Yeah.
All right.
Viola Davis, name does not need to be on this screen any longer, by the way.
Why can't we build like that anymore, though?
Like, we just don't seem up for it.
They don't, they look at it as.
Is there just a cost issue?
It's garish.
No, no.
All right.
We'll take a quick break.
We're right back after this.
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Do you never see big cement
Or you certainly don't see plaster
Right
Big cement?
Big cement walls
Like the walls
And they're saying cement
But concrete
Is it concrete?
No
No you're talking about
Placer and stucco
Well but the walls at that place
They look like they were three feet thick
Yeah but they're not poured cement
Okay
I mean I didn't check
But no we don't build that way
Because it's garish
It's goat
Well, hang in a second.
That's sort of irrelevant, but the poured cement thing.
My parents had a house for a while that was like that with the big thick walls,
and they had to put a dryer vent in.
They had to drill through cement all the way.
A big core of cement came out.
Well, it's possible back in the day.
It's unlikely.
Those are the 20s from the 20s.
Well, you're remembering a wall that was 16 inches thick.
It was probably more like six inches thick.
It wouldn't have been.
The core that came out was like this.
According to your young eyes.
It was not so young.
Young, dumb eyes.
Dumb, yes.
When it comes to construction.
Un experienced.
Dumb.
Young.
No, I, I'll give you maybe eight inches sort of max.
But when you see the 24 inches, that's an inner and an hour.
To be fair, you're watching the built shit like that in Malibu now, right?
Isn't that sort of the idea?
Well, that's all the foundation, but the house will never be built.
The house is going to be framed up.
Right, right, right.
All right.
Now, sad news about Phil the dog.
Oh, yeah.
Phil has left us, sadly.
I was really, you said that when your dog, when Rex died, you were more moved than when your mom died.
Well, you probably shared me.
You quartered me on that one.
You just went, I didn't say about it went, which was worse, your mom or the dog?
I was like, yeah.
Well, the dog, the reason I was very upset about it yesterday, but, and it really got to me.
And, you know, I think for me.
I stood in the shower and cried.
I was very upset.
Phil, also, I mean, some dogs are better than others.
Yes.
I happen to like Phil because Phil was big and fun and sort of had a good nature to him.
Some dogs are a little bit shitty, and I don't really, you know, it's like they snap at you,
and then their owner goes, he's got to get to know you.
Or like, okay, all right, all right.
You know, but Phil was super friendly, sort of goofy, fun, super laid back.
And, you know, it wasn't trained at all.
I could get him do a couple things.
Drew could train him.
Because he wasn't dumb.
He was smart.
He just played dumb.
But once Drew got a treat, he could train Phil.
Phil is also like physically big.
Huge.
And I loved, my greatest joy would be to open my son's room in his door while he was asleep at night and have Phil stretched out.
He'd go full length on the bed and he'd be pushing Sonny off the side of the bed.
Like he'd just be bang, he'd just be shoving.
Sonny have like one leg off the bed and Phil be completely stretched out like snoring.
But then Sonny loved it, you know.
So, yeah.
The kid's okay?
Yeah, Sonny's not.
Yeah.
No.
Because that was kind of his guy, you know, and yeah, now I'm going to start, right?
Yeah.
It stays, I still get.
Oh, my God.
Every once in a while, I'm like, oh, Jesus.
Yeah.
And then I brought up to you that our parents did us a solid.
Yeah.
We're not putting us through that with our family of origin.
Well, you know, I.
You know, Sonny's sensitive, and, you know, I just told him, look, you loved Phil because you were sensitive than now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How old was he?
12, 14?
No, he was like 10, 10 and a half or something.
It's the thing of these big dogs, man.
Yeah.
They just die young.
I can't do it again.
This one was, once you have a dog that's so good and you love so much, you, we'd, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we.
We had Australian Shepherds before Brooks, and they were great dogs, but not like him.
Yeah, some are better than others, and also, you know, you realize the relationship with him, too.
You realize the relationship with, you know, your dog is sort of pure, and that the family, mom, dad, I mean, you know, my mom and my dad had so many shit qualities in terms of parenting.
that it's it's it was hard to you know really be that broken up yes because there was like you was
solid yes they did me a great a great service by being shit parents but i mean i mean they're
you know i guess there's thoughts well first off they're old like you really kind of yeah kind of get
it yeah yeah but you know i realized with with phil it was just sort of pure he was just a good he was a very
he was very pure in who he was.
There was no sort of, again, you know, it's like when my mom wanted her champagne and found out it was her, she hid it.
Yeah. That's not a pure, that's not a pure soul.
You know what I mean?
Like, Phil was just, whoever was in the room, he was going to that person, he was hanging out with that person.
And he liked everybody and he sort of, he sort of had a, like, he, he sort of had a, like, he, he,
He had like kind of a fun, you know, he'd like to get in the swimming pool all the time, you know, and like that kind of stuff.
And by the way, his move is he'd go take a lap in the pool and then get right out and then go right into Sunny's room and just lay on the bed and there just be a huge wet spot.
I remember that.
But, you know, to Sunny's credit, Sunny's like, all right.
Yeah, that's Phil.
You know, it's why one of the reasons I believe that self and consciousness emerges in a interpersonal setting is watching.
watching and being close to social animals, so elephants, dolphins, dogs.
And some dogs, you can see what they're thinking.
Yeah.
And they're thinking about this you and the relationship.
And, you know, that part, when a dog is engaged on that level, it's just like, oh, my God.
It's just so unusual and so difficult when that relationship is ruptured.
Yeah.
I also kind of realize for me it's sort of the end, you know,
family was broken up, you know, divorce.
I didn't get to see Phil often in the last couple years
because everything just sort of came unraveled and just sort of fell apart.
So I think I was kind of grieving of like just a family that just sort of, you know, fell apart.
Kids moved out.
I moved out, house sold, dog dead.
You know, it's like the end of whatever that thing was where like you got a dog, you got kids,
You got a wife, you have a house, you know, a structure, a family unit.
It's like everything is just sort of scattered to the wind now.
So like for me, it was kind of a morning of the end of the family.
And it's not, and, you know, like, well, yeah, I talk to my kids.
I see my kids, but they're over there and I'm over here.
And I'm never going to talk to my ex-wife again and the house is sold.
And, you know, it's just kind of a life.
That's gone.
Yeah.
Family's a life.
It's also a fantasy, too.
Christmas with the dog and the kids and the stockings and the popcorn and the music.
Like those, it's just, it's now different.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, I mean, I guess that's part of life.
But for some reason, the dog dying sort of punctuated it like with the end.
And I, you know, I would have loved, I love living with Phil.
I love hanging out with Phil.
Phil was like a little bit of work.
But like, I like, I really like.
Phil. Like, I came home. I was looking for Phil. You know what I mean? I had fun with Phil. He was here a lot. I mean, I brought him with me. Like, I like hanging out with him. So like when you get divorced, you get to, you know, and you're not on good terms. It's kind of weird. And then so you'd end up. So I felt like a little guilty that I hadn't spent as much time with him over the last year, a couple of years, something like that. So it was like. It's also a missed opportunity. Like, well, if I'd spend more time. Yeah, it was, it was kind of a two or three fronts. It wasn't just the dollar.
died.
The family died and, you know, I didn't get to hang with him.
Is your feeling about this life, the life of a family, does it feel a little fantasy now?
Does it feel like it was not as real as?
It was something.
I don't know.
It was something that I never got.
And it was I didn't have a dog.
I didn't have a family.
I didn't have anything.
And I kind of wanted that.
Yes.
And the fact that it didn't really work out is kind of, you know.
I get it.
Disappointing.
Blah.
All right, good note to go out of.
But good news, I still got my family of Paul Newman cars.
And I'm doing a lot.
You got us here.
Doing March 22nd, San Ana, Jordan Family Class of Cars.
And I got live shows everywhere, so you should just go that.
And our merch store is on Up and Running.
Website.
It's live as well.
Adamcroll.com.
What do you got, Drew?
Doctrew.com.
Dotry.
Check it out.
So, until next time, Adam Crowl for Dr. Drew, say it.
Mahala.
