The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2080 - The Art of the Argument | Part 2

Episode Date: April 4, 2026

Adam and Dr. Drew dive into Kristi Noem’s husband facing accusations of a double life involving crossdressing and a ‘bimbofication’ kink, with Adam stressing he doesn’t care about emp...loyees’ private romantic or sexual lives and calling out Dr. Drew for phone fiddling during the show. They tackle argument-seekers, Dr. Drew’s push for prioritization skills, and a study on how men’s brains react to sexual imagery of women and men, before Adam rants about a ridiculous carpet steam cleaner fight. They close discussing Wuthering Heights (Adam hated it), films about terrible people, and why Tom Cruise’s Maverick in Top Gun: Maverick is a total douchebag.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. No. Chudgment. Get it on. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, Diction Medicine Specialist. Yeah, listen to that with great clarity. I haven't heard those words in many years. What is a guest in here? What are you thinking about, Drew? I am feeling bad for Christy Noam and her husband. Have you seen this latest story?
Starting point is 00:00:36 No, I haven't heard of it. Okay. Where shall we start with this? Have you guys heard about Christy Noam and her husband? Is that hit the... Am I the only one seeing these stories? No, I mean, there are stories about her having a fair. Oh, no, no, this is way more juicy.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Oh. No, you got... Okay. Apparently, her husband, somebody at the Daily Mail or some other organization, it's certainly broken. on the Daily Mail, found him online posing as a busty female, sort of dominatrix type, in many, many, many, many, many compromising sexual situations. What?
Starting point is 00:01:19 What? Sorry. As a female. Now, I don't get what it means to say posing as a busty female and then caught on camera. You can't be a busty female. Can you be? Well, let me show you some stuff. I guess.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You know, the thing about me is I have little tolerance for weirdness. I know that. It turns out there's a lot of people that are in a lot of weird shit. Yes. Sex addiction is massively a problem that's just starting to peek its head out. And I, I, it's, it's confusing to me. But it's, but so is the consumption of poy. I, I have trouble, look, there's people that don't like pizza.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I don't understand it. I don't know why. It's hard to identify with it. And there's people who do this. I don't get it. I don't understand it. There's pedophiles. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:02:18 They don't understand it. Yeah. It sounds like the opposite. Yes. Of something that would be good. But as you and I heard so many years, they're kind of a lovelin, something scrambles them. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yes. Yes. Yes. And these days, they're being exposed to so much shit online. Yes. They get scrambled by that. Yes. And here we go.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yes. So I don't know. Now, what's he doing that? He's like cross-dressing and all that stuff. Yeah. And sort of going to these chat rooms and who knows what kind of stuff's going on there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I don't, well, you know, she always kind of rubbed me the wrong way because she's always sort of made up and cowboy hats. Well, you know, it's interesting about her. It just occurred to me. The people aren't going to understand this, but you will. She has a little bit of a quality of a female, female crossdresser herself. Yes, she does. Yeah. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And she's shooting commercials where she's on a horse, you know, and stuff. And I just don't. I mean, they made the right move to get rid of her. I think this may have been coming is why. Oh, well, also, see, the thing about Biden, Biden administration hired a whole bunch of DEI hires and then literally just hung on to them while they essentially ruined the country and sort of made asses of themselves. You know, the one guy that got rid of was the guy was stealing women's lingerie from the airport. They finally had to get rid of that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But the rest of Mayorkas is and guys like that, they're just incompetent idiots. and they just rode with them. You know, they just, the... Well, there was no leadership back to that issue. Right. There was also Admiral Levine and that freak show that talking about Cross. And they love... And then they'd have them do these.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Remember Admiral Levine gave an address about... Healthcare for everyone. I remember that one. No, this was a specific, you know, sort of trans awareness month. thing. I mean, that's, I don't know, weird window dressing stuff. Like, I don't know how much trans awareness in terms of, here's kind of what I'm saying. Here's what I'm saying. I have a business and my business here is to create content, a cut clips, and put it out there, do commercials and so on and so forth, you know. I don't really put any time.
Starting point is 00:04:52 into anybody's sexuality. I'm assuming it's twisted. I don't care. I don't want to care. I don't want to know. It's none of my... Every moment I start asking Chuck if he's got a girlfriend now
Starting point is 00:05:11 or is there one of his roommates, possibly, who might have some interest? There's no judgment here. I don't want to do it. It's got nothing to do with the fucking business. It's just, it's not my business. It's not the business I'm in. And by the way, they can go do that on their own time whenever they like.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I don't, it's not my job. It's not like the government's job to get involved with all this shit. It's not school teachers' jobs. It's not librarians' jobs. It's not the mayor's jobs. I know you like to march with the trans whatever on the whatever awareness day. It's not your job. Your job is potholes and forest fires.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And that's what I do. I'm here to make money and run a business and talk about mopping floors and talk about whatever it is we need to do. But I'm not here to delve into people's sexuality. It's their fucking business. It doesn't have anything to do with me. And it's counterproductive for me. All the time we spend discussing Chuck's sexuality as time he's not spending cutting clips. I was going to bring that up with you because the business here seems to bogging down around Chuck's
Starting point is 00:06:24 habits. Proclivities. Proclivities. You know, it gets a little bit distracting at him. I wanted to tell you. Just, fuck. That's all we talk about here. There's so much.
Starting point is 00:06:36 True. You put your phone across the room so it wouldn't be distracting. Then you just left to go mess with your phone. If you need your phone, put it on you. It was still distracting me. I turned it off. I just got to leave it. I just left it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 That's it not working. I can see it glowing. It's not working. It's not off. It is, I left the call. I left that. Okay, let me tell you what I do, everybody. You leave your phone somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Well, that's number one. Number two, I turn the fucking phone off because I don't trust myself that it's going to start. You know, the funniest, the craziest, it was always good. When Donnie used to work here, his phone went off all the time. He could never, when we were recording, his phone would start going off all the time. All the time. And I would tell him not to do that all the time, all the time. But it wouldn't, he never did it.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Right. Yeah. One time, it was really funny. He needed me to record something literally from like inside the car in front of his house, like real fat. He needs something like that moment or something like on a Sunday. Like come by. I was going somewhere or something. I'll come by.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Five minutes I'll come by. We'll just do it in the car. You know, like roll the window down. Literally. He like came outside. and did the mic and I was telling you a commercial for Nissan or something and 30 seconds into it his phone started ringing in his pocket and you know what I just left I put the car in gear and I just drove away and he never got the commercial but he couldn't do it he couldn't do it but
Starting point is 00:08:06 eventually he did but I remember very clearly I was in Chateau Mormole and I was interviewing a band and we're like in their room. And the thing that was crazy is Donnie was recording it. And after a year, I've convinced him to take his phone and put it on vibrate or whatever. But it was crazy. He was on the floor. There was like carpet on this side and carpet on that side. But his phone, which was on vibrate, was just sitting on the hardwood floor.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And, of course, in the middle of the interview, it started going off. And it just sounded like a jitterbrug on a frying pan. Yeah. It was like, br-brug. Now, it wasn't physically ringing, but it was making more noise than whatever. And I sort of realized you just got to physically remove the phone. Shut it off. I just shut mine.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And remove and shut. But anyway. But if you got, okay. But it's weird. All the discussions. All the discussions about the same thing. I would If I didn't have the same redundant discussions my whole life
Starting point is 00:09:17 I probably only have to live until like 31 I literally have the same conversation with everybody and I can't get them to not do it Whatever that thing is Which is weird I can't figure out what that is Well if you want to examine me Because I've been guilty of some of that stuff
Starting point is 00:09:35 You're doing it on purpose That's something else No I do it on purpose Like the show with Elliot, I was merely bringing up conversation when you said you were doing Joe Rogan's show and Reseda. I just thought I was engaging in conversation. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I was thought it was like, oh, you sure it's Recita? Because that's where Cicada's a recrita. That's not how conversation works. How does it work? Conversation doesn't work like this. Chuck, tell me you went out last night and you ordered guacamole as an appetizer. I went out last night and ordered guacamole as an appetizer. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:10:11 That's not how conversations were. No. Conversations, how was the guacamole? No, it also might go, I thought you said you had Chinese food last time. Do you order guacamole to a Chinese restaurant? I told you I had guacamole. It's like, that's what you would do. Oh, shut up.
Starting point is 00:10:26 First off, no one is more accurate than me. I know that, and that's the problem. Hang on, so let's keep examining. I sat down with Joe Rowan. By the way, first of all, I said it a long time ago. Let's keep examining. Who did you bring up, not burger? Cigaro.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Tom Segarra wasn't doing a podcast a long time ago. See, I've never done his podcast. Well, I didn't know that. But let me do. I know you didn't know that, but I said a long time ago. Okay. So let's just examine that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So first of all, the thing you're putting your finger on, which is I'm so accurate, which is we are not used to that. Humans are not used to that. You better bet you should be used to it. You should be. I should be from you, of course. Well, I'm the one telling the story. No, I understand.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But the rest of my day is spent going, so apologies. Well, you're staying out with your wife. Of course. You have to check everything. And so it's absolutely correct. And then the long time ago, to me, five, seven years ago was a long time ago. What were you talking about? No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:30 What were you talking about that time ago? Quiet down. Okay. COVID was more than five years ago. COVID was five. years ago. No one says a long time ago during COVID. You did not, at our age, five years, four years, six years, a long time ago does not mean that to us, to you, if you're using your brain correctly, especially for someone who goes back into the 90s. Yeah, yeah. But I was thinking
Starting point is 00:12:01 seven to 10 years. And you were thinking something more like 15 or more, right? No, I don't know. we can look it up. Because Seguer was doing his thing seven years ago, for sure. And so I just thought, uh-huh. So, anyway. When did Tom Segarer start this podcast? No, it was 11 years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Okay, that's more than 10. That's more the zone you were thinking. And I, you know, if I say a long time ago, was there any, what I'd ever go? A long time ago and you go, oh, before you were divorced? No, it was after I was divorced. Like, I would never say that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:39 No one would ever say that. Your wife might say it. That's you not reading me. Yes, that's correct. That's the problem. You, of all people, should know if I say a long time ago. I'm not talking about five years ago. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Not at my age, not your age. Right. But that really wasn't good. To be fair to you and me, that really wasn't the issue. The issue was my questioning your accuracy of where you were, when you were, and who you were with. What are you looking at there? Tom Cigar started a podcast 2010. What?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Wait a minute. Yeah. No. Yeah, they used to out of their garage. And when was the first time I was on there? Check that out. That was probably eight or ten years ago. And I would have said that was a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I did their first podcast. Well, you see, what you do. Here's what you do, Drew. You do what all Dumboes who argue do, where you go, you go, you know, I start complaining about COVID and they go, oh, excuse me, and we're in the middle of a pandemic and you were slightly inconvenienced. Yeah, no, no, no. That's just you shaving, you're shaving your argument, you know, slightly inconvenienced.
Starting point is 00:13:51 My kid's school was shut for two years of fucking retard. Yes. And that's slightly inconveniences. Your off ramp is closed on the way home, so you have to get off on the next off ramp, idiots. No, no, no, no. It was my first appearance. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Listen, Drew, you cannot defrable. You cannot defend yourself is what I'm saying. You got to scroll way up. I'm just curious. You don't even know what you're saying. You thought it was a long time. Who cares when it was? I just said a long time ago I did Joe Rogan's podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:21 You made, and you shoved in Tom Seguer's podcast for I don't know what reason. Because it was in Recita? Yeah. Because that seemed odd to me that it's, that Rogan would be doing it in Reseda and Bert and Tom and all around the same time. And I was like, you just seemed it sounded odd to me. It's like. Bert and Tom, how do I know they were in Recita?
Starting point is 00:14:44 I knew there in Recita. That's the point. Where were they? Reseda. What part? They first, they were in their house, and then they went to a strip mall, like you said. And that's what triggered me to think about those guys. Well, Joe, Rogans was, I don't know, it wasn't North Hills. Listen, the valley turns into east and west and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And I don't understand the valley at all. No, I know. Rogan's place may have been in the town next to receded. But for the sake of the story, you're trying to say. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm just saying I'm right. You know it intentionally. Well, that's the point. Why would I do that?
Starting point is 00:15:25 What would my motivation be? That's a good question. That's something to talk to the lady about. The nice lady sitting in a comfortable chair. Back to human motivation. What's in it for me other than just sort of volleying in conversation? Let me tell you something. Every person I've had these.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I used to argue with my ex-wife all the time, you know? And then she'd go, she'd go, I don't want to, I don't want to ever have, you think I want to? It's like, yes, you do, because every single thing is an argument. Every, every attempt, every fucking attempt at everything you push back on. And you don't, you think I want to argue? You think I want this kind of like? I don't know. Every single thing I ask for, you don't do.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So there's got to be some parts. Well, there's got to be a bias, a bias or something, like a weird, like a posture. They want to be, they want to engage and then be victimized. I don't want that. You don't think you do, but a lot of people want to engage. And then at some point, they start crying and they go, I can't handle this anymore. You know what I mean? Like, thankfully we haven't gone there yet.
Starting point is 00:16:35 You could just do stuff. Any of it, some of it. Ray would do this all the time. Like, he literally, I'd ask for the same thing. Yes, yes, there's some of that. And next thing you know, you're yelling at each other. And next you know, he's storming out. And now he has some drama.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. He's a way to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a psychological thing. Is there a male-male thing? You know who has this? Dr. Bruce. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Dr. Bruce, I go, Dr. Bruce, you show up here, they're not start. He'd immediately just start it. You know what I mean? You know how you know they do it. My ex-wife would do this all the time. They just literally tell you the opposite of everything you want it. You know what I mean? Like if you just left, if you left and said,
Starting point is 00:17:22 just please remember to take that garbage can out today because the garbage man's coming. Just write it down. That's all. But here's how you know. When you'd come home, you'd go, did you take the garbage can out today? They just go, no. They wouldn't hop up and go, oh, shit, I forgot. They just go, no.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And they know that's going to engage, and now there's going to be an argument. See what I'm saying? They don't know it. They don't want, they, here's what it is. Yeah. It's like black women wrestling fighting with cops. It's super avoidable. It's imminently avoidable.
Starting point is 00:17:58 You just sit in your car and just go, yes, sir, no, sir. You don't have to do this. Right. This part where you're crying and you're being arrested and you're yelling what's happening to you, that's all your shit wiring. Right. And you say you don't want this. Right. It's all avoidable.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But you don't do it. There's a more subtle thing in here, too. I agree with you on all that, which is being able to prioritize. Right. Right. And that's a hard thing for people to know they haven't prioritized something. and so they don't remember it because it's not a priority. And that's a hard thing to get into your head because you don't normally think that way.
Starting point is 00:18:38 You just think, I'm going to remember it and I'll do it. And then you don't and say, well, it wasn't a priority for you. You've proven it. It's not that. It isn't. You know, you can go back to the car and the scuff and where's the rubbing compound. It's not that they don't know the car's got a scuff on it. They're not doing it for you.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You told them to do it. That's not what they're doing. Well, that's a whole other thing. And then, you know, but it's never, they never don't, they never forget. They get their shit together real fast, like real fast when it's their shit. Yes. That's, that's the whole thing. Donnie treated this place like it was a junkyard, but his tools weren't back and they're always orderly and it had a lock on the thing because he didn't want people messing with his stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Right. And people get really good when they need. their shit taking care of, and they get really forgetful with your stuff. Back to our stuff, I'd asked if there's a male-male thing going on here that we're not aware of or something that makes me do that. But I remember now, listen to this, I went down to Atlanta in the late 90s to do a piece about this scientist who was looking at functional MRI scans of males versus female, their brains, how their brains responded, to sexual imagery. I remember that. I didn't know it was in the line.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I do. I remember. All right. Take a quick break. We'll tell that story right after this. Pluto TV has thousands of free movies and TV shows. We're coming at you with everything we got. This is the mindset.
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Starting point is 00:20:30 The fairly odd parents and ghosts, Pluto TV is always free. Hizzo! Pluto TV, stream now, pay never. Yes. And it showed clearly that men, when they'd see an arousing image, they would have arousal and desire, drive. They'd have appetitive drive. Women, it would dissociate. They could have arousal.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Ooh, that looks nice, but absolutely no interest in no drive, right? And he was asking the question of the time, well, how can you connect? it to drive, well, it turns out intimate conversation, created drive and female. But I bring this study up only because as part of it is one of the controls, they show the men gay imagery. And I remember looking at that, and I didn't know I was going to see that stuff. And I was like, oh, interesting. I was like, nice, a second guy, whatever, not interested in not the same.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And believe me, my brain responded very differently when they showed me the other stuff. A man of passion. Man of passion. But what was interesting about the male images, I had this huge threat response. Mm-hmm. The brain's biology went. Threat, threat, threat, threat, threat. Not just gay, but male.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Male coming out. Well, you said gay. It was gay. It was gay imagery, right? It was, well, it wasn't even explicit. It wasn't gay sex. It was just nude male. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Okay. And the jacked males, too. Mm-hmm. And so I wonder if my brain is doing something like that between us. Because males respond to other males with sort of a threat reaction that they're not aware of. Maybe I am grafting this on to you with my own personal experiences. But there are people that want to scrap and there are people who want to evap. and they're people who want to avoid scrapping.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And there are people who want to oppose. Oh, yeah. That's a little subset category too. And they want to... I don't like scrapping. I don't like it. They want to victimize themselves to some way, shape, or form. And then there's a sort of overt, male, sort of hostile way of doing it.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And then there is a female version. And there is sort of a victim version and a sort of conqueror version, but there's like a lot of like, you know, the Ray version, with him just yelling, fuck you and like storming, storming out. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And Donnie would do that too. My ex-wife would be the victim in the thing, whereas Ray and Donnie would be sort of the conqueror in it.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But either way, they, this thing that. was totally avoidable, was never avoided, and almost always got to some sort of point. And by the way, in the middle of it, when it was happening, they would never correct. They would only escalate. Yeah. It was only escalate.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Like, I don't, like, you know, look, my girlfriend doesn't like me leaving my socks around, you know. And so, like, I do my best to gather them up and get them away. But if she said your stocks are in the whatever, I just go, oh, I just run in and go get them. I wouldn't start with your socks. I don't want to escalate. And I'm not interested in being a victim. But let's go back to the conversation between us.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Well, then you've got to get back to Dr. Bruce. Yeah. Dr. Bruce. He can't help himself. He can't help himself. So he would literally, it was a weird thing. That's kind of an OCD thing, though, too, right? With him?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. He would push back a little, you know, he would do, he would cause that thing where you just went, get the fuck out of here. Okay. So let me look at that point. So, so now when I examine this with you, I'm aware that when I start the examination, I have to kind of take a deep breath because it's uncomfortable. Yes. And a lot of people can't do that. They can't do it.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You got a little victim in you. Possibly. Maybe because your mom. Yeah, yeah. You got a little like, I kind of. need to be scalded a little bit or put my place or some kind of weird thing. You got a little, like you're not alive unless someone is going, hey, how many times I got to talk about this? Okay, possibly. But at least I'm willing to look, I can stop and look at it. You're a hero for
Starting point is 00:25:06 looking at your four. Not a hero. But I'm aware that it's hard. And so for some people, it might be really hard. They just can't do it. Oh, they don't know what they're doing. Yeah, but you can always stop and go, all right, let me look at this. Let me, let's, let's, talk about it. They can't do that part. No, no, no, no, no. But the thing is, they're not, they created it, and they're not
Starting point is 00:25:33 interested in extinguishing it. They created it. Well, that's, you have to have motivation. This thing has to end up in a big argument because that's what they sought. Well, that, now you're tiptoeing into personality disorder where it's never my fault. It's always your fault, which is sort of a personality disorder. Yeah, it's a, I'm
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't know. The victim thing, it's a bigger deal than we're thinking, like, as a nation. Oh, my God. That's why I take the time to evaluate this shit. I think we're getting on to something important here. I think people, okay, so here's what people do. They'll do a thing where, you know, like Mike and I fly out over the country all the time. But if a flight's ever half hour late, Michael goes,
Starting point is 00:26:21 Always, always us. Always us. Always when we're going to a game. That's like it's almost never. Yeah. You know, but there's like, there's a little self-fulfilling kind of thing where you go, always me. I'm always the one that has to do this.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You know, everyone does that. And things feel like that when they're negative. Yeah. We catch them. The valence is higher when something's negative. Right. So I'm always the one or it's always trafficky when I'm in a rush or whatever, whatever that thing is.
Starting point is 00:26:52 So there's like a lot of that. It's a bias. It's a way people, they go through life with way too much of themselves invested in it. And that it's fucking traffic or it's a mechanical issue with an airplane. It's nothing. It's not you. It's not every time you fly.
Starting point is 00:27:16 You know, they're almost like weird superstitious natives. And then everything becomes something. about them. I'm just trying to get Donnie to bring the fucking carpet cleaner to the stupid office so I can use it to clean his office. That's all. There's nothing to do with him. It's just I want the carpet cleaner. You know what I mean? At some point it has to turn into something. You know what I I mean? With him, I have no interest in that. I just want to clean the carpet or take the garbage out or whatever I asked my wife, take the garbage out. I just wanted her do some stuff because I just wanted it done.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Do you think people have always been sort of like this? Or is this kind of a, or are we just inundated with these days? You cannot do it when the winter's coming and you need firewood and you need to salt away the meat. And that you can't, you need air. You die. Yeah, you need air. Yes. You need air conditioning and you need a fucking husband to pay for everything.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And then you can act this way. You can't act this way when there's real options. When things need to be done, money needs to be earned, work needs to be accomplished. You know, can't afford this, can't afford that. I mean, that's a rubber meets the road kind of thing. And that's where people, they don't, their luxury beliefs about whatever it is they're doing go because they have to fucking do it. Like I, you know, I was thinking, I don't know why. I've been on the road with Mike for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:28:48 guess who's never been sick and missed a show. Mike, me, or you, there's nothing. Never been. Not going to be. It can't be. But start giving people options and air conditioning and they cannot be feeling it. Right. They get on that airplane.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Right. Not going to make it this time. I feel something coming on. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's way too many fucking options. It's also there are no consequences. If you just beat people,
Starting point is 00:29:18 they'll fucking stop. You know what I mean? Like if Donnie comes in here first day and doesn't bring the stupid carpet and I just start smacking him, he fucking's still going to remember. Yeah. And people go, that's horrible.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah, it is. But at least I could get my carpet cleaner. You know what I mean? Yeah. I know what you mean. And then always the greatest arguments. That greatest. I will say, do you miss,
Starting point is 00:29:42 Donnie and Lynette, I miss the arguments because they were always insane, you know. And I found amusing And always found kind of interesting that they're doing them to me You know, they're like all the worst person in the world Yeah Donnie's whole argument Always was that the carpet cleaner
Starting point is 00:30:01 That I owned a carpet cleaner as well Yeah And that carpet cleaner was in Malibu Which was on Doom Drive in Malibu Which is about as far away from here as you can possibly get. It could easily be two hours if you're in traffic and stuff. Yeah, but the point is, is Donnie lives eight minutes from here and has one in his 1,400 square foot house.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That all I needed him do is to bring it in. And his argument at the end was you have one as well, which is true, but one of it was in Oregon. Would that still count? Yeah. I have one. It's an hour and a half that I'm not, I don't want to drive out there and get it. you have one, you live close. Just bring it in.
Starting point is 00:30:49 No, it wasn't going to happen. Right. So there's a lot of that. How long did that go on for? The carpet cleaning thing? The carpet cleaning story is magnificent. It's perfect in every way. It's perfect in every way. It's a Mary Poppin story.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Well, here's a great thing about that. And the same arguments I'd have with Lynette. Yeah. I'm only asking, I'm asking you to do something I am going to pay somebody to clean your office with the carpet. I'm not telling you to do it. I never told Lynette to do anything. I'll get somebody to do it.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You know what I mean? So it's a perfect story in that. It's not my office. I don't hang out. It's your office. And I'm going to pay someone to clean the carpet. So that's the genesis of it. Not even a dog in the fight.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I would have this all the time. my ex. Like I, this isn't even serving me. I'm not even, I want this for the kids. I want them to eat good. You know, it's not for me. For them, you know, like lots of starts off with it, not for me. And then it goes into a, it always starts off easy. It's like, hey, bring the carpet cleaner in tomorrow, you know, tomorrow comes. There's never. So then you get in the, hey man, bring a, would you remember to bring the carpet thing. tomorrow, you know, the next day, you know, then that doesn't happen. It always starts the same way, right?
Starting point is 00:32:22 Now, at some point, they're like, I didn't bring the carpet cleaning in, and he had a meltdown. It's like, yeah, the 26th time. Right. Right. So those forget that. It's always delete it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Right. And then at some point, I start doing what I do, which is I call, you know, start calling them at night, you know what I mean? Hey. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. And you just wouldn't go out and put it in the car or something? Right now, before we hang up, just go lean it by the front door.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Just go, put it by the front door. I go, no, no, before we hang up, just go get it right now. Just put it by, put it by the front door. I'll get it tomorrow. See, I would be so grateful for you to have done that. Yes, you would. I'd be like, thank you for reminding me. That's like sure it happens.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I don't like this. Yes, you would. No, not going to happen. How many times did you call him at night? Probably a couple times, lots of discussion. And then this is where it really started. I said to my assistant, I said, if this wasn't me asking for a, for car claim, but if it had something to do with a mini bike, he wouldn't forget because he likes mini bikes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Literally out of a sitcom. Yeah. I came walking in the next morning after that conversation with my. By the way, you guys are such fuckups that I'm having. conversations with you about, like my assistant and stuff about you just doing mundane kind of basic average normal shit, right? At some point, I walk into this place and there's a giant chrome spring sitting on the table, right in the front.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And I just come walk in, I walked in, and I said, huh, what's that doing there? And I said, Donnie. He goes, yeah, I go, what's that? He goes, it's a spring for my mini bike. And I go, oh, where'd it come from? Rob from home? I said, okay. I told you if it was minibike related to do it.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Then I go, so I go, Jesus Christ, I would have to fucking talk about this stupid carpet cleaner all fucking week, all week. And you remember to bring your, fucking mini bike part in, but you don't bring that. And he starts getting agitated. And he's like, fuck you. You, whatever. And then at some point, he goes, you want me just to turn around and go get it?
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'll go right now. Fuck you. I'll go right now. I go, yeah. That'd be great. I do because I don't know how else this. Evidently, it's not going to work this other way. By the way, you live eight minutes from here.
Starting point is 00:35:08 So yes, go get in your fucking car and go get it and bring it back. And I'll have Gary cleaned the carpet. Did he do it? Yeah. stormed out. Okay, good. What happened? That's good.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Oh, yeah, we got a carpet. Clean. They were super easy. That's who they are. Now, what do they want? I'll tell you, what they don't want to avoid is that argument, because they do everything in their power to get to that place, everything. Because it is the most avoidable thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Well, the fuck you part for just, you know, raising it again. It makes me wonder if that is some remnant of your youth or something, or you guys used to fight like that. Because it's so bizarre to be able to just go. Well, it feels bizarre for you. Yeah. These people are dumb. And so you don't, you underestimate what they're, you really,
Starting point is 00:36:01 I spent too much time thinking about Chuck sexuality and talking about that. You underestimate as we constantly talk about that here. They're capable of doing and saying. You know what I mean? Like, you got one to Malibu. You know. Yeah. The dumb, the amount of stupidity that would leave their mouth.
Starting point is 00:36:17 They have no idea, by the way. They're like, kids, they don't think. But you, no, you're surprised because you're used to a certain ilk people and education and sort of manners. And you're not, you're not used to dumb. I equated it back to your childhood, essentially, with him. Like that's some sort of behavior pattern that got set up long time ago because it is so childish. It doesn't make sense. You know, listen, it's funny to me, but it is a weird process.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It would be extra super funny if we're not sort of an example of stuff that's going on all around us all the time. Yes. That's where it gets kind of woof. All right. Quick break. We're right back after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla show. Well, if you care about predictions.
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Starting point is 00:38:25 exclusive VIP rewards built for serious players. Brackets follow the hype. Bet online sets the line. March Madness is here. Bet online. The game starts here. So you saw the movie Weathering Heights. Yeah. Yeah. And you said something, say it again, what you said to me is kind of interesting. These people are horrible. They're both horrible people.
Starting point is 00:38:51 The two stars were horrible. In terms of the- Horrible human beings. The characters they play. In real life. Yes. Most of the movies they make where they go, this guy is a lone wolf and he plays by his own rules.
Starting point is 00:39:05 These are like anti-social horror. You know what I say a lot of? I go, the real... Leonardo DiCaprio makes bombs to free... to bomb detention centers at the border or whatever. Yeah. Smokes tons of weed and, like, has, you know, indiscriminate sex or whatever. The real-life version of that guy is a fucking mess.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And it's horrible. Horrible. A horrible. A horrible, dangerous criminal. That's right. That's who that guy is. And so, but think about it. Most film is either an anti-sod.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I mean, we glorified. glorify criminals. We love it. Butch Cassidy, Godfather, these are the, the anti-hero hero, which is a bizarre impulse that's been going on for like 50 years. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't always like that. Right. And I don't know what we think we're doing with that. It is, and even, to be fair, even a lot of literature and stories and stuff, fiction, you know, people that are healthy and sane aren't interesting. And we have to be sick by, we're going to look at sick people, for starters.
Starting point is 00:40:10 If it's going to be a drama, if it's going to be a fiction, if it's going to be a play, it's sick people being sick. But we took that all the way to sort of criminality with really rock and roll too. It's like, it's anti-social criminal. I told you a long time ago,
Starting point is 00:40:22 we elevate really not good people to. Oh, you can feel that? You can hear that? Okay. Deity status. you know, that don't deserve it. Yes. Weathering Heights is, they have a deep love.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Okay. Yeah. She at some point marries a guy who treats her like an angel and takes care of everything and she's basically fucking this other guy in his house like all the time. And it's a, okay, I'll tell you want to know what angers me more than carpet cleaners and mini bikes and and all that. I do want to know because I can't even imagine what you're going to say. Movies where the theme is wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:12 The theme is wrong. So this woman, beautiful peasant lady, marries super rich guy who treats her like a queen. Who, by the way, is not old and unattractive. It's just a good husband who provides everything in worship. Boring. Worships her. And she repays him by fucking in his house.
Starting point is 00:41:33 constantly. And then the dude, she's in love with, marries another woman out of spite just to anger the woman he loves. And then literally abuses her physically, abuses her in a horrible and grotesque ways and does it in front of people and so on and so forth. So he's fucking horrible and she's horrible too. And then at the end, she dies. And both men, husband and lover both agree she was the greatest effort. It's the fucking retarded. But let me tell you something that's really retarded. Top gun, Maverick. Okay. I went on this rant on my show. Okay. What's Maverick?
Starting point is 00:42:16 What's Maverick? He does what he wants, but he plays by his own rules, man. You know what I mean? Like Navy pilot is the last place you get to do your, you know, remember you stole the F-18 and went joy riding? Right. It didn't sit too good with the Adverick. Hey, man, you got to do what you got to do. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:42:33 No. No, you don't. That's taxpayer shit. You're wasting a bunch of jet A fuel. By the way, the coolest guy in the world, you know, I ride a motorcycle with no helmet. Okay. The opening scene of that movie, he said, it's a test pilot. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But it does his own thing, you know. And then he goes to the test facility with the new hypersonic, whatever, whatever plane. And it's a program. Underground at Skunk Works, Lockheed, they had a little skunk insignias and stuff, so I assume that's what the reference was. And they're going to get this plane to Mach 10. It'll be the first time a piloted plane had made it to Mach 10. And the goal for the multi-billion dollar endeavor was get to mock 10. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So Cruz shows up for a test day. This evidently is going on over a course of months or years. And today is the day slated to get the multi-billion dollar supersonic jet up to Mach 9. And he shows up, Cruz does, right, just motorcycle with no helmet, you know, shows up and he gets there and everyone's long in the face. All the black men and black women who are running the test, you know, because you've, you've, you've, seeing NASA, right? So he's like, what's going on? General, shut it down. Shut down our thing. We're going to lose funding. We're not going to create, you know, we're not going to build many of these things and have all this employment.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So he shut it down. And he goes, what, why? Well, but we're going to get to Mach 10. I know it. You know, and he goes, well, that's the goal. But today we're only getting to Mach 9 and he scrubbed it. So we'll never see that goal. Where is he? He's on his way here. Okay. It's on his way here. So then Tom Cruise, because he does his own thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:39 Maverick, right? He goes, right there in his name. He goes, you know what? We're flying this plane, and we're going to Mach 10. I don't really think test pilots have this much juice. But they get to then tell everybody in the military, fire it up, get behind the Lord, man, the battle station, I'm getting into, I'm going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Again, I don't think you get to do. That's just me. But he takes off and he jumps in the plane. Everyone hustles. Okay. And he takes off. Okay. And just as the general's pulling up naturally and gives him a flyover,
Starting point is 00:45:25 Shosh Shows him, right? Right. Takes off, levels out, you know, most. Mach 5. I'm sure it's going, a lot of noise. A lot of noise. A lot of noise.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Then he gets the Mach 7. The general's in there. He's fuming. What? He took off. Because that's how military protocol works. So he takes off and now everyone's just fixated on the screen. Of course, they've got the big thing.
Starting point is 00:45:53 You know, Mach 7, Mach 8, Mach 9. Cruises in there, put shaking, rattling the things in. You see the red hot wing surfaces and stuff, you know, getting, and he keeps straddling. It keeps straddling. He keeps straddling. Nine, seven, nine, eight. Even the generals bought it.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Because remember, if they can get to Mach 10, they can have the program. Got it. Nine, nine, nine. And it gets to ten, and the planes, you know, shaken. And then, no, no, no. And the guy in the control tower is like, don't do it, Maverick. And Marrick's like going, we're going further. And he just, he keeps throttling it up.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And now it's like shaking. And now it gets to 10-3. And they have a catastrophic airframe disaster. The plane comes apart. By the way, he ejects at what would be 7,000 miles an hour. He does fine. He does fine. He lands in a town where Cindy Crawford shot the Pepsi commercial.
Starting point is 00:47:00 show. That's for the Super Bowl. Okay? But he jacks it at 7,000 miles an hour. Oh my God. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. So here's the whole point. He destroyed the entire program. Yeah. They put everyone out of a job.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. Plus he blew up a multi-billion dollar plane that the taxpayers paid for. And by the way, because of what? He got to 10. He knew he got to 10. the goal was 10 why did he mash the throttle forward until a catastrophic disaster
Starting point is 00:47:39 happened he knows the plane no one had made it to 10 what is he trying to do is he trying to get to 10.6 trying to get to 16 25? Like what's he doing?
Starting point is 00:47:52 He's a fucking asshole who ruined a whole program and cost people a bunch of money. Not to make it to make. Not to mention whatever debris from the plane could have land in a fucking schoolyard, you're fucking idiot. Whose money is something that never occurs to anybody until recently. Whoever wrote that fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:48:09 So they should have went, he got to 10, he throttled back. One of the things I felt interesting. And then the plane blew up. About the SR 71 pilots when you hear them interviewed. They said that the plane goes so fast. When I went to mock four, five or something? How fast that would go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Maybe not five. Well, okay. I'm sorry, it's classified. They'll never tell you. It goes faster than a bullet. Okay. But that he said, the one pilot was describing some of those challenges stuff, and he goes, and somebody said something about what's it like?
Starting point is 00:48:39 He goes, it completely quiet. He goes, they're quiet because, yeah, the sound is three miles back. Oh, right. You're three times, five times faster than the sound. Yeah. The sound is behind you. So you don't hear anything. That's the other thing, too, is Tom Cruise was at Mach 10, but he was at Mach 5.
Starting point is 00:48:56 He was at Mach 5. He's not 10. When he landed, he walked back to the base. You'd be going an average of Mach 7 for an hour. I'd say you're going to be out over the ocean somewhere pretty fucking far away, not over a small cafe in Tucson. That's so. I hate movies.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I really, I do. No, but here's all I'm saying. The movie was great. Maverick in real life is what? Criminal. He's a criminal. Yeah. You just blew up a billion dollar plant.
Starting point is 00:49:35 And by the by, you're sociopath. You put everyone out of work. Always. You tell the general to fuck off. And to what end? You know what I mean? Like, what were you trying to achieve? Something?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Mach 3? Jesus Christ. Who cares, man? He's a maverick. Yeah. Iceman was right. I said, you're dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Well, it's really shitty, lazy writing because if the goal is Mach 10 and you hit Mach 10, now here's, by the way, these are simple workarounds. All you do is see Mach 10 in the control room and have it go glitchy on Maverick's airplane screen. And then Maverick is going, have we got to 10 yet? Have we got 10? And they're like, he thinks we're not at 10, and then the plane blows up. He sees her at 10 and he just keeps it mashed forward. That's shit, lazy writing. All right, I'm going to be in Salt Lake City.
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