The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2081 - Dean Graziosi on How AI Is Changing the World | Part 1
Episode Date: April 9, 2026Multiple New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, and investor Dean Graziosi joins Adam and Dr. Drew in the studio to discuss the future of AI! Adam asks if society should fear a futu...re dominated by artificial intelligence, and Dean explains it’s simply humanity’s evolution—tools that make daily tasks easier and faster. They discuss how people naturally fear major change and speculate on how deeply AI will integrate into everyone’s lives down the road. You can get tickets to Dean and Tony Robbin’s AI Summit at www.aisummit555.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla
and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky.
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Yeah, get it on, got to get on the show.
We've got a guest here, Dr. Drew.
Yeah.
Dean Graziozzi.
Got that right.
Yeah.
Got AI company, Mastermind.com, co-founded with Tony Robbins.
I know that name.
I never met Tony Robbins, but everyone loves Tony Robbins.
He's a good man.
A.I is something that scares people, certain people.
Some people embrace it.
Some people are worried about it.
Tell us, well, you know a lot more than we know.
I'm sort of agnostic.
I'm like, look, there's always change.
There's always technology.
There's always people that are scared.
The horses are going and cars are showing up and airplanes or whatever and computers.
But we just go.
That's us.
It's baked in.
That's how we roll.
You can't get in the way of it.
You try to sort of mitigate the risk and the danger and move forward.
But yes.
Absolutely.
You know, if you think about it, right, the biggest shifts in the world, I mean, when
electricity came out, people were freaked out about electricity.
I went back in research.
I'll move your mic, so it's just on it.
Yeah.
That better?
All right.
Good.
About 25% of people didn't adopt to electricity because they didn't want to change their factories,
didn't want to change the process.
within a year those companies were out, right?
Right.
So when people realize, what people get freaked out about is it's the fast pace of change.
And in life, we think we're good at change.
We're not.
Right.
So if you think about it, it's, if you look through the lens of AI is just a technology that can allow you to go faster.
I'm not a tech expert.
And either is Tony Robbins.
What we are good at is modeling proven practices.
Find patterns of people have already done it.
We did about 50 interviews over the last three months of AI experts.
to find the pattern to actually allow you to become more human.
Most people don't want to talk about AI.
There's a new thing dropping every day.
It feels overwhelming.
But the fact of the matter is, if it's a tool that can allow you to buy back time if you embrace it
and you just use the parts that kind of amplify you, augment you, then it becomes a different feel.
Yeah, I went back last thing I'll say about it.
But in the 1800s, if someone was going to plant an acre of farm, an acre of corn, took 40 hours.
As soon as a tractor came out, it took 30 minutes.
A year later, if you didn't have a tractor, you weren't in business.
And we're kind of at that phase with this.
So that's why Tony and I decided let's find a pragmatic, practical way to just help people implement it in their life.
Yeah, I never have a problem when people say it's going to put people out of work.
That's the plan.
That's efficiency.
It took all those people to plant all that corn and now we have this, you know.
They found other things to do.
I never really, and by the way, I don't want to sound cold or cruel, but they go, you know, the textile mill employs everyone in town and we can't shut the textile.
But if no one wants the textiles, then we have to shut the mill.
They go, what about the jobs?
It's like, you're, that's what we have with schoolteacher's unions, you know.
We just create a bunch of jobs and then they fight for their jobs and then we don't need half the people.
Like it's called a waste.
Right.
it's not it's not being subjected to market forces right so if you can figure out a way to flip
McDonald's burgers without a human being standing there then they're going to do it and that's fine
with me and that's the way it works yeah i mean dr drew you spent your life you know i've pleasure
to meet both of you and it's it's the history you two have is great and how you guys go back and
forth each other it's such a great mix but dr drew just like tony my partner you spent your life
helping people make change right and you know that there's things upström
that if they don't go up and find the purpose for it and all those other pieces,
that the downstream seems hard.
Well, I mean, we are absolutely wired against change.
The way our brain is constructed, it perceives change in the environment and in the self as death.
Absolutely.
It's an absolute threat.
So as people get used to it, they learn how to change and learn how to grow and build their brain,
but it's not the natural setting.
And then you take something like AI that's different today than it was three weeks ago,
eight weeks ago.
At least creates fear.
at least here.
And so I think the biggest thing,
and we don't have to stay in the AI topic,
I'm willing to go down any road to serve your audience.
But the last thing I'll say about that is...
Care if we may regret that.
Yeah.
But if you look at...
We're going to talk about his grandmother.
Yeah, I was watching.
I was watching.
But we, if you look at, if you look at,
I believe why people are a little overwhelmed,
freaked out about it is because everybody's just starting at the education.
They're starting at the, this is the next thing,
this is what you should do.
Just like if someone came in,
that you were serving.
If you go upstream and first give them a purpose why they should learn it,
then help them overcome their fear,
then help them reduce the complexity of all the options,
help them would change.
Then they're more open to saying,
I could implement this into my life.
Yeah.
I like it because I've always been an advocate of the trades and manual work,
plumbing electricians, you know, carpenters and stuff like that.
That's where I started.
Oh, good.
So I did it.
So I've always.
appreciated that. I've always preached that that, you know, not everyone's cut out for college,
but you learn a trade and you'll do fine for yourself and your family. And the jobs AI is talking
about replacing don't seem to be those jobs. It seems to be sort of middle managementy stuff.
I mean, you need to do that, you need a robot, essentially. That robot's not going to be
flippy. The hamburger flipper, that's going to be a fully functional. I mean, if you think about
carrying a two-by-fours up a ladder and laying them out, laying choice out for the roof or something.
That's insane piece of technology.
By the way, that robot would cost $2 million.
Now that, that robot would be doing a lot of other things first before it was pumping drywall.
Right, right, right.
So I look at AI as an excuse to have a conversation about trades and vocational and getting these kids who are,
bear you know going to drop out of high school and join a gang into something tactile and meaningful
for sure and the part that can reduce the complexity of it too is really the first phase of
AI is just to allow you to go faster because when you have the ability to listen there's a million
tools coming out so the thing I'll say is take the tool you're currently using if you're on chat
GPT or Claude get it to know you this sounds crazy but one of the biggest secrets is just get it know
let it know your constraints, your goals, your core values, what you hope to do, what your
week looks like, what you hope to accomplish in a month, what you hope to accomplish in 90 days,
and feed it as much as you can, and then just say, how could you help me save five to 10
hours a week? What could you take off my plate that's boring, redundant, and that little
shift is something, and we've already trained about 600,000 people, Tony and I, since we started
in November, and those little shifts buy back people to five, seven hours a week, so they
could be more human. So they could finally be more innovative in the thing they've been dying to
create or be home with the family or advance the business. And I think if we look at it at this,
you know, one step at a time approach, it changes it. I don't want to play devil's advocate,
but, I like it. You know, we've always, when when you look at advertisements from the 50s
and they show the clothes washing, washer, dryer, the average. The average
had the housewife relaxing while the washer was doing the wash.
Creating more free time.
Yeah, no longer down to the river with the washboard.
And they would show these women, God, they're dressed into the nines, you know, sitting
in their beautiful 50s houses.
They were always sitting there reading their magazine on their sofa, right?
And so the conceit was once we automate this and will free you up.
for more leisure time.
But the reality is it just freed people up for more work.
Different work.
That's what ended up happening.
Not necessarily with the ladies.
But they hired a Guatemalan woman to do the laundry, and they were really freed up.
But for folks that work, you know, this computer that's going to save them a bunch of time,
well, next thing you know, they're on an airplane on a Saturday,
and they have the thing on their lap, and they're essentially working when they would be enjoying
a cocktail and watching a movie.
Right. So, you know, you go, AI is going to speed up all this stuff and it's going to free up all this time.
And then you're going to have more time to paint and walk in nature.
But it's probably going to be more time to do more work.
And I would agree with that throughout history.
I would say post COVID, a lot of people when they were home had the ability to look and say there's more to life, right?
We could say COVID shifted a lot.
And even the psyche of, of, of, of,
what success actually means.
And I think we're at a time where if you don't work on it, you're right.
And the worst part about it is if you bought back time and then you did things that weren't healthy for you.
Right?
You found addictions.
You found habits.
But I think we're in a place where people are really searching for inner peace.
People are drinking less.
They're trying.
I think there's a time that AI, listen, it's coming.
It's going to impact our lives over the next 18 months.
18 months.
Yeah.
A lot.
What I'd like to explore, though, what concerns me is none of this.
stuff, it's having seen how brainwashy people have been lately, that the AI somehow is used as a
persuasion instrument to hoax people or whatever, or to cause them to believe things and form
mobs and God knows what. We certainly saw that during COVID, too. Absolutely. Do you have any concerns
about that, or is it, is AI being organized in such a way that they could do that sort of thing?
I think it's moving so fast because it's like the arms race that I don't think they're building
the guardrails that they probably will in the next 18 months
because they're just fighting for the next technology.
And I think if you look when the internet was doing,
we had all the same fears of the internet.
And here's the way I look at it.
Turned out to worse.
There's a lot of things that could go wrong with AI.
But the fact of the matter is we get what we focus on.
And I'd rather focus on that's going to help cure cancer,
help people work a little less, help you go faster,
help that mom that's been dying to launch your business for a long time,
finally have the creativity without having to raise money to do it.
And I mean, it's the best you can do.
If that's what you focus on, at least you feel that moving forward.
And if a catastrophe comes or it goes in the wrong direction, then hopefully we have smart
people to help it.
Yeah.
Well, we're now in the first AI war.
You know, we're using AI with Iran.
True story.
And also now there's another thing I thought of, which is a little devil's advocate as well,
which is, you know, when everybody.
has the technology, then you go, well, it'll give you an advantage in the workplace,
you know, your business, you know what I mean?
But if everyone has the exact same advantage, then we're all still in the same place,
essentially.
Maybe if you use it first and deploy more creatively.
Right.
And everybody has access to incredible books and skills and operation skills.
But we all have access, especially to information, it's going to be those that utilize it.
maximize it, find a way to implement it into their life and business.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And it exists as we speak with, you know, go to a Tony Robbins symposium and bring your,
bring your employees and motivate, you know.
Like I get it.
And I'm all for efficiency.
Like, look, you know, we used to carpet bomb and we just bombed everything and burned Dresden
down to the ground.
And now we're smart.
You know, we send the one down the chimps.
knee and the bunker buster and whatever.
I think everyone likes that part, that notion of efficiency.
And like I said, let's not bomb the whole town.
Let's just find where the bad guy's bunker is and drop one and take him out.
And I think we're, you know, I think we like that efficiency.
And it goes south sometimes.
We end up bombing a school.
And people are so used to, we're so used to this that we go,
get outrage. It's like it's a fucking war.
That is the other thing, the used to it, nis of, I wonder what that's going to feel like
we're used to AI. It's going to be interesting. We're the first generation before and after.
So I'd love to get your opinion on change. You know, it's something that Tony's worked out for 47 years.
So change is extremely different. Yeah. Of course. I mean, there's that sort of classic construct of, you
know, anticipating change, preparing for change, planning the change, making the change,
initiating the change, and then that's the hardest part of,
I have thoughts on change.
I'd love to hear it.
Well, I've said this many times.
I do agree that it's sort of a baked-in fear to all humans.
Because I think change, well, what we don't like is uncertainty.
And so change brings uncertainty.
But when you change, you change, that means your old self dies.
And so your brain is sort of geared up to.
I mean, I don't get as deep that way.
I just think uncertainty is something that humans have a difficult time with.
And they used to be food-based.
You know, like, I don't know where the food's coming from.
But now it's a, oh, I lost my job, and I don't know where my next paycheck is coming from kind of thing.
But I've, and people do this.
Oh, your girlfriend dumps you and you'll never see her again.
And you don't have a girlfriend.
Who knows when you'll have a girlfriend.
and jobs, everything, everything has changed.
I mean, like graduating high school, I remember going, now what?
Yeah, here we are.
So, but here's my whole point.
You can tell Tony I said this.
I challenge anyone.
Everyone I know has a story, and most everyone's story is, is my girlfriend dumped me,
but thank God she did, or I wouldn't have met my wife of 31 years,
As everyone says, every firing is the best thing that ever happened to them.
I don't really know anyone who had a change that didn't look back at it and go,
it turned out to be a good thing because I would have never started my own business
had I not been let go from Xerox or whatever that thing is.
So we fight change constantly, but it really is the best thing for us.
And then the worst life is the I worked at the Postal,
sorting place in Arlita for 61 years.
Like the no change.
Also, if change is bad, how come people with no change have the worst lives?
I mean, I think of those things all the time.
And we all have our own little quirks.
And there's two things I want to share.
One is don't some people move during uncertainty?
Like, only because we're similar in age.
I've been following you guys for a long time.
We've just been around for a long time.
And watching all the change both of you have made, especially in your career, Adam.
I guarantee at the end of each one, the uncertainty was high, but you found a way for that uncertainty
to drive you or else you would have given up when the thing ended or when the new thing started.
True?
Yeah, I mean, I got fired from my radio job.
I have to look it up.
You know, right near 17 years ago today.
And you can look at it's great on the other side, but it still sucks when it happens.
Yeah.
Right?
But you found uncertainty.
You found uncertainty to drive you, though, rather than throw your hands up.
I would argue, though, that Adam is accurate.
and then the flip side is the side I see all the time, which is loss.
Humans, if they're really changing, it's because there's been a loss of something,
loss of previous self, loss of job, lots of career, sense of self, physical ability,
and there is always grief with it.
And humans hate grief.
But we need to define two types of change.
We need to take a quick break and then we'll talk about more than one change after this.
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I think people lump in change with death and grieving or whatever.
Like, you, they do.
I lost my dog very recently.
You lost your dog, and that dog's never coming back.
And it's never going to be a good thing.
You know, it's like, oh, I'm so glad Phil died.
looking back on it.
It's like, no, it's always sad.
I miss Phil.
But that's change, but it's not what we're talking about.
Personal change.
Right.
And so I think sometimes look at that is like...
But your brain does the same thing, though.
That's the problem.
Well, I'm saying they lump in losing their job with losing their lab, you know?
I think the brains naturally do that.
That's what I'm on.
I would argue they don't have to.
They don't have to.
There's a version of this that doesn't need to be done that.
way. But although there does need to be a little bit of grief, you have to be willing to step into
grief because you automatically... You're grieving the past thing. When you lose that.
All successful people done, all they've done has changed their whole life. 100%.
And could you force the grief? Like, again, I was talking about like having a toolbox of things
that help you move forward, right? Because it doesn't matter what age we're at, what wisdom we have,
what experience, what success, finances. Every new chapter is a different fear, right? And sometimes the
fear from your father not loving you enough and being abandoned.
when you were young pops back in.
You thought you'd cured it years ago.
There's things that I use.
So I'd love your opinion on this.
There's something I use when I feel in the midst of change where I'm hesitating,
where I know on the other side of it.
I know the other side of the storm is calm and the next level.
I'll future pace and think of things like being at the end of my life
and meeting my maker, whatever your beliefs are.
And seeing a video of the man you could have been if you embrace that change,
if you move forward.
And I can visualize that regret.
and I can bring that regret of that day into this moment to make me move.
Makes sense.
And it could be that.
It could be the example I want for my four kids.
But it's never just, I'm going to grind this out.
I have to attach an association to it to get me moving forward.
A story.
But you did say that sometimes it's, what do you say about the father not loving you or something?
But the point being is that this stuff gets attached to these early experiences that have an existential quality to them.
And so fear of losing my job, which is like, oh, I'll get another one gets attached to this destructive.
Everything's going to destroy.
Fear of not being loved, being lost, or dying.
Our brains have a tendency to lump everything.
I don't know yours does that so much.
You don't tend to get excited about things.
Well, look, at a certain point, you have to be able to bet on yourself if you have a track record of a track record of a,
accomplishment, you know, and so.
That takes a while to develop, right?
It takes a while to develop, but I mean, it's a, you know, we're in a business,
you know, show business.
It's very topsy-turvy, and it's like here today and gone tomorrow kind of stuff.
But you can think of those people, and there's many of them, that just keep going, no matter what.
And so it's not a topsy-turvy business for them, you know.
And, you know, if you're Conan O'Brien or Jimmy Kimmel, it's not topsy-turvy for them.
You know, they keep going and they keep throwing track out in front of that speeding train.
I always, the metaphor for show business, like you're in a train going 100 miles an hour and you have to throw track in front of it.
That's a great metaphor.
Because there is no track.
And by the way, if you don't throw track for four months, you're derailed.
Yeah.
Like you literally, you think about it.
It's constantly throwing track in front of, now you could go, well, why don't you take the train from 100 miles an hour to five miles an hour.
It's like, well, I don't want to be a train.
Someone passes you.
Yeah, I don't want to be a five mile an hour train, you know, and I want to be in 150 mile an hour train.
But that's going to take track, you know.
And in the business used to be, well, you got a five-year contract.
That's a lot of track, but there's no more five-year contracts anymore.
So you could go, well, that sounds anxiety-producing to never know where that track is.
And the answer is it is, but if you've been successfully throwing track for 25 or 30 years,
then how much anxiety should you have about it?
You're pretty good at throwing track.
And I think in a, you know, what Dale Carnegie had a quote, I just geeked out on Dale Carnegie a few years ago, love his old stuff.
But he said the greatest plight of the human race is knowing you have more potential and not utilizing it.
So simultaneously when we're afraid to change, deep down, we know we're meant for more.
And it's such a conflict.
It's one you've dealt with way at a deeper level than I have.
But that's what we deal with all the time is you know you're meant for more, but deep down, you're afraid to take the action because there's change and it might affect something.
And I think as we as you having a metaphor like getting to the end of your life and realize you missed it,
I think that we have the opportunity to wake people up more than ever.
Because I think people are spending more time.
You would know this more than me.
Are people spending more time understanding how they think?
I think we have more time on our hands.
We have less worry about food.
I mean, I know the world's in a crazy place, but we still live in the greatest place on the planet that allows peace and harmony.
and there's no wars in our backyard.
Most of us have food.
I know there's still a lot of people that don't.
And I think that the mind,
I think people are searching for something to attach to.
For sure.
But I think it's a double-edged sword
because a lot of it is potential,
but the potential brings about a lot of folly
and time waste and craziness.
You know, it's like you open your phone
and there's a new thing that's going to make you gut,
healthy and if you mix this powder in, then you'll have the healthy gut,
and that's going to free up your mind.
You know what I mean?
And you know it from talking.
If you talk to women of a certain age, they'll tell you all the hacks.
You know what I mean?
But it's all stuff they're not really doing, you know, and some of it varies a lot.
Like, don't put your sunglasses on until noon.
You want that sun in your eye.
You're not supposed to drink coffee.
just have access to so much information. Yeah. Yeah. And so what it ends up being, you know what it ends up being?
It ends up being like somebody buying this piece of workout equipment and then they're going to get the shake weight and then they get the abbuster and now they get the step climber and all of it.
And it all just sits in a room and gathers dust, right? And the best thing they could do is go out and chop some wood.
Like the best exercise they could get would be like get out, grab that axe and start swinging that thing like outside, you know, or go till the soil or, you know, get hike that mountain, you know.
No, no, there's a new gut flexer that I'm going to get on Amazon.
And what it does is it kind of satiates.
Like there's so much in their head that really the best thing they could do is whatever they did 150 years ago for exercise.
exercise, you know what I mean, go out to the barn and throw that hay up to the loft, you know, that kind of stuff. So we have the info, but the info is polluting us a little bit. Like I know, I notice people sort of swimming in this info and what they need is less choices. Again, they need sort of less info. They need to go sort of low tech. Like they need to be like put your boots on, go hit that mountain.
break a sweat.
And they're like,
I have a hat that has sunscreen where dispense a sunscreen every third step.
And I have my meter where I can tell you how many steps.
I don't tell you how many people are telling me how many steps.
I'm like,
why don't we just walk from one end of Manhattan to the other?
And well,
that'll be 8,500.
I don't care how many fucking steps it is.
Let's just go walk for an hour and a half.
You know what I mean?
So there is an element of that,
which worries me a little,
like too much access,
too many serums, too many powders, too many whatever.
They're looking, they're searching, they're wanting.
Yes.
And at the end of the day, a lot of them haven't gotten out of their sweatpants,
and they're still staring at their computer screen,
looking up workout equipment is what I'm saying,
when you should be sort of hit the beach, hit the sand, hike that beach.
You're not wrong.
And what I think we're kind of talking about it, it's a very vague thing to say.
but this sort of spiritual vacuum that people find themselves in, whatever that means for them.
It's lack of meaning-making, lack of close-connected relationships,
lack of a spiritual program, if that's what they need.
But also, there is a version of this where everyone is reading a book on being spiritual.
Oh, no.
I mean, let's read a book.
Let's read Aristotle.
Let's read.
No, do that book.
No, they're following a podcast about some 23-year-old influencer chick who's telling you to have a lot of work done,
telling you how to find your center.
You know what I mean?
And my thing is, how about you throw a barbecue with your friends this weekend?
You know what I mean?
Just get back to that stuff.
And even as you're talking, you know, there's so many different directions you can go down.
But what we focus on, right?
This is just life 101, the human condition.
What we focus on, we get more of, right?
That's just that.
Which is actually a lot of people don't know that.
I mean, I had a dear friend of mine who was his father of age.
And he was in the church.
He was focusing on something, though.
Yeah, exactly.
He had this story.
It was his name, Dick Van Pat.
Yeah, exactly.
He's starting a sitcom called Eight is enough.
Yeah.
That's right.
Anyway, he took, in his church, they took the 15 to 18-year-old boys whitewater
rafting, and it rained for like five days before.
And the rapids, I guess, were a four out of five have never been in whitewater
rafting.
And all the dads were like, we're going to skip it.
And he said, the salt and pepper guide come out, salt and pepper hair, a little bit older
guide comes out and says, dads, don't worry.
boys get in the boats, we're going to be fine. He said, we're good because we got the positive
point. He said, I'm a slow learner. He said, the first 10 years of me being on this river, when I'd
see a tree down, I'd say to the whole group, hey, guys, you see the tree? Let's not hit that. He said,
the whole boat would look at the tree. We'd go right into it and flip over. And he said, it took
me 10 years to figure out that when I saw the tree or the rock, I'd find the opening. And I'd said to
the kids, just paddle your guts out to that direction will be fine. Here's the fact of the matter.
you still might hit the rock.
You still might flip over.
But if we can find a way in our lives to focus on where we want to go, focus on the clearing,
easier said than done, but it's a game changer because our minds can stack the negativity.
What if this goes wrong with AI?
What goes wrong with life?
What if it goes here?
What if it takes all the jobs?
What if the war comes here?
Like, we can go down that direction, but I know me.
I'm not in the best version.
I'm not in the best state of mind when I go down that road.
But we also could stack.
What if it goes right?
What if this could buy me back time?
What if I do find the clearing?
I think people, and this doesn't sound motivational, but in general, they should worry a little less about themselves and stop thinking about themselves as much as they do.
Like people have anxiety because they're worried this is going to happen or that's going to happen.
I don't have any anxiety because I don't care that much.
I'm sort of like they go, what are you going to do?
you race that car? What if the car gets destroyed? I'm like, I don't know. I will fix it or something.
Well, I'm doing it. You know, but aren't you worried? I go, no. I don't think, except for now,
they're bringing it up. I don't think about it that much. Well, but what if it? Bob, what if?
You know what I mean? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't think that's going to happen.
And if it does, then we'll deal with it. Like, I don't know. People are little too up in their head
and they're narcissistic, but they're also like, where, it's like COVID.
What happens with COVID?
I don't know.
I'll either get COVID or I won't get COVID.
Now can I get on with it?
It's like, yeah, but aren't you worried about, I'm not going to be able to control this?
I'm going to get it or I'm not going to get it.
That'll be it.
And we'll figure it out if I get it.
Like I can't prevent myself from getting it.
Evidently, nobody can.
And we'll see how it works.
Let it go.
Just moving on.
Then you get to go do what you want.
All right.
Dean, sorry.
We'll come to the end of our rainbow here.
Let me give a plug.
Mastermind.com and co-founder with Tony Robbins, which is tell Tony, come on, come on the show.
I'd love to talk to him.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
That's all I hear.
That's all I hear.
All right.
So go to mastermind.com and check out the website, please.
And don't be fearful of AI.
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Now, Drew, I got stuff I've been thinking about.
I don't know about you.
I got stuff, but you start.
I'm semi-occupied with this notion of one half of the country politically is obsessed with
waste and fraud and where is our tax money going?
The other side is simultaneously saying we need to get more money from the people that are paying taxes.
Yes, it's weird.
So we can have stuff.
The governor of New York is the Hockel is the perfect example of that.
I mean, her stuff is not working.
It's, you know, fraud and abuse is rampant.
And she needs more money.
And she needs people to come back after she chased them out so they can invest in her wonderful social programs.
Right.
It's the weirdest thinking of all time.
It's like a delusional thing.
It is as if you want to, you know, a lot of these stories are like sort of easier to
digest if you get them from the macro down to the micro.
Yeah.
You know, and just imagine in any relationship, yours or mine, we're essentially the breadwinner,
sadly.
And, but, you know, it's as if your wife is saying, you know, you're saying, look, we got an
electric bill and a gas bill and a water bill last month, and it was $27,000.
We need to tamp it down.
You're sleeping with the windows open and the furnace is on full.
You're heating the pool pool to 90 degrees.
It's middle of winter.
I've never even seen you go in the pool.
You're flooding the lawn with water.
You know, I told you we needed to get synthetic turf out there.
And you just, it's a, it's a rice patty out there.
And then she goes, why don't you make more money?
You go, I'm already working 70 hours a week.
Well, you could, but you could, you could give more.
You could do 80.
Just pay your fair share.
And just give a little more toward the irrigation of our front lawn.
Yeah.
And you're like, yeah, why?
don't you reel it in though a little bit? Why don't you start paying your fair share? And you're like,
well, there's two ways we could fix this problem. One is, is I could give you even more of the money
I'm making and you're getting a lot, woman, or you could just shut the windows at night and turn
the furnace down. And they're like, well, why don't you give us more money? And by the way,
if you give us more money, we could have more furnaces and more heated pools and more at lawns.
that's the argument.
And it's a weird one to have in the face of so much fraud.
Yes.
It seems like that Democrats will go, let's just wait until this fraud thing is over
until we start asking for more money.
It's not just the fraud.
It's the funneling into the NGOs and then the, what do they call it,
the laundering over to the Act blue and stuff.
And so a sane person who understood human motivation would go,
all right, we'll straighten this shit out.
Let's get this thing going, streamlined.
And then we're going to need some more because we believe what we're doing here.
Right.
I can see that.
I'm going to take this a step further, though.
When people go, we got to cut back on the fraud, I go, we got to cut back on the programs
because the programs create this.
You get divorced in California.
Your ex-wife is committing fraud, but it's legal.
It's perfectly legal.
I'm saying,
Do we need new legislation?
Yeah, let's not count on her not to try to rape you.
Let's fix the situation.
The situation is forcing every guy I know who's affluent, who has an ex-wife, none of them have remarried.
Every guy's remarried.
Why is that?
Because they lose their money.
All right.
Are they committing fraud?
No, they're just living with their long-term boyfriend while you pay them for the rest of their life.
Yeah.
It's perfectly legal.
It's how the system is set up.
Okay.
I'm saying the system is fucked up.
Yeah.
You cannot count.
They're not laundering money.
They're not sending it in the suitcases out of the Minneapolis airport.
No, I'm saying we got, you're right.
So the system is forcing this.
So I'm saying there are people who are pretending to be married to keep their brothers, you know, in the country or whatever the fuck it is.
Fine, we got to get rid of that.
But the system needs to be revamped.
because it is beckoning this fraud.
Unfortunately, the only way it's going to change is when enough women are raped by this system,
which will happen.
It will happen, right?
It's going to happen.
Yeah, it's just...
And then it will change.
It's just funny.
Look, think about all...
Remember, it was designed to deal with the poor dependent women.
Yeah, I know.
Now that's his fucking rich bitch who don't want to work for raping their fucking ex-husbands
for the rest of their life.
Or ex-husbands who were raping the rich bitches for...
Well, that'd be nice.
That will happen.
That's, that's, that's, oh, I've talked to people that have been in that situation.
They are not happy.
Oh, no, women hate it.
Again, when you reverse.
They're more vocal.
Okay.
Let me put it this way.
There's two reversals which people hate and women hate.
The reversal, if I just did what my ex-wife did, which is sit around, spend money and do nothing, I would be a fucking pariah when we're married.
And then when we got divorced, if I just extracted money from her so I could go.
go to a country club.
Society would judge.
They would judge me.
Right.
Them, they don't.
So until the judging starts, we can't really do anything.
It has to go both ways.
Judging and a burden.
Right.
Judging and burden.
It has to go lazy's lazy.
Yeah.
And how about we put a little time limit on the salaries?
Jesus Christ.
It's insane.
But the point is, is you're not making them into criminals.
You're forcing them into an immorality.
Yes.
And because of human motivation.
It's how humans were.
Right.
And the people that create these.
And also, it is also, in a weird way, it's like rent control.
Yeah.
Those people will never be owners.
And these women will never get remarried, which is kind of weird because they're youngish,
they're healthy, and they would probably like to say they were married.
But they won't do it.
Poor women get remarried.
They're remarried six months.
Yes, right.
Right.
Rich chicks can't do it.
Right.
And so you're now...
Somebody's got to publish that data.
Just so it's in front of people, so they understand it.
Well, I got to say anecdotally, any guy I know who's...
Some of these guys, they're divorced.
I mean, we're going on 15, 20 years.
I mean, their axes were young-ish, healthy white women who would love to get remarried,
but they never will, which is insane.
and also the insane part of their long-term partners,
the males won't let them do that either.
We got to judge those guys too, by the way.
Oh, fuck, yeah, we should judge those guys.
They're living off the other guys.
Maybe that should be the first target
because we're not targeting women, at least that way.
Yeah, so it is, it's, it's, listen, it's all unintended circumstances.
Yeah, of course.
Everything is all.
And by the way, history has moved forward.
Right.
These are anachronistic laws.
They're way from long ago.
Yes.
Yes, but once again showing none of these women are criminals, but they're all have weak character.
But by the way, so does everybody.
I was going to say, how could they be otherwise?
They have average character, which is weak.
But they all do what anybody I know would have done.
What is the alternative?
They're going to step up and go, hey, I'm going to become an executive in a company.
And as soon as I get there, I want to thank you for all that you've contributed, but I'm going to cut it off right there.
They were doing the exact same thing.
My mom, Ray, and my dad, and everyone I grew up with would do.
That's all.
Jimmy wouldn't have done it, but I only know Nick Santora wouldn't have done it.
I know like a handful of people.
I think everybody would do it for a while.
Everybody.
Oh, yes.
The question is how long is reasonable.
Yes.
All right.
This is Elizabeth Warren.
Elizabeth Warren explaining how finances.
economics work.
Oh, oh.
So I've been trying to make this.
She's studied it, you know.
She's all the time.
On the reservation, yes.
So I've been trying to make this video, show you what wealth inequality looks like in America.
I wanted to compare how much wealth the average American has compared to Elon Musk.
And I wanted to do it with M&Ms.
But it turns out that to make that happen, I need to get six and a half million M&Ms.
That's right.
Elon Musk has six and a half million times more wealth than the typical American.
By the way, if I were telling this, if I were having this conversation with any woman I've known, she'd go.
Well, he's got some kind of sweet tooth, doesn't he?
I'm trying to explain.
Can you imagine us having this conversation with your wife?
Elon loves M&Ms.
I don't like the regular ones.
I like the peanut ones.
This is, this would drift over.
into, well, then her friend would go, I like peanut butter cups, and then you'd be off and running.
Pay days.
Man, I'll tell you, Halloween this year is a little bit of a disappointment.
That'd be it.
All right, go ahead.
Here we go.
Right.
Elon Musk has six and a half million times more wealth than the typical American.
If you want to visualize it, this is you, and this is Elon Musk.
Oh, man, you got, hold on.
So then I thought, okay.
You got to figure out how to survive on a hundred and 24,
thousand M&Ms.
Chuck, do you think
you could get by on
124,000 M&Ms?
Depends. Pinoid M&Ms or regular M&M?
Oh, that's the rub, isn't it?
I got no time for the regular people.
I'm actually surprised the average American
has that much wealth.
M&M?
That much MNM's available.
Because I keep hearing horror stories about how
everyone's in debt, no one has money, and blah, blah,
I am surprised that the average American has
$124,000 worth of wealth.
I've got to believe that that's just a farm or a house or some...
Well, yes, but it's also probably got to have a weird variance to it.
Oh, yeah.
You've got to have a weird...
Got to have a lot of swing to it.
Like, a lot of those people got to be worth $3.75 and a lot of have to be minus 20.
Right.
I'm guessing.
Correct.
But also in a world where my...
I mean...
I'm calculating this.
My grandmother house was $12,000.
Right.
It's now $1.7 million or whatever it is got paid off in 1966.
You know what I mean?
Stepdad's living in it.
Okay.
But my mom, you know, you got one house for $12,000.
You got one for $10.
You know what I mean?
All you have to do is sit around like my mom and survive it.
And you're going to end up being $700,000, $800,000 of the good, you know?
That's right.
I think a lot of that is that.
Well, but yes, but that's real.
I mean, throughout history, that's not inconsequential.
No, I agree.
I wonder if it's gone up more.
But why?
I mean, why?
Anyway, let her finish.
You have 124,000 M&Ms, and Elon has 627 billion.
So what is her plan with this M&M redistribution?
All right.
So then I thought, okay, if M&M.
M&Ms are too much. What if we did it with rice? Turns out we need a 350 pound bag of rice to do that.
And frankly, it would be a safety hazard to try to carry something like that.
Well, inequality. Safe, safe, safe, safe. It's so funny. I watched this three times and it always
cracks me up. Like, that's just a bad edit. Like, you have to talk about some OSHA mandated thing
where you have to put on a belt to lift this stuff.
It's like it's just you're making, you're using metaphor.
You know what I mean?
I'm not going to go, hey, bitch, where's the rice?
Where is the rice?
All right, sorry, go ahead.
It's funny.
Frankly, it would be a safety hazard to try to carry something like that.
Safe.
Wealth inequality in this country is so out of control.
It's hard to even visualize.
And that's one of the many reasons why I introduced my wealth tax in Congress.
It's a two-cent tax on every dollar someone has after, after they hit the $50 million mark.
And then a $3-cent tax on every dollar someone has.
Now pause it there.
Government is the only place that goes this direction with money, which is to say,
every other in every other facet of society.
If you read the fine print on any high-end automotive auction, you know, it'll say, you know,
gooding and company, it'll say something like they take a 13% premium on any sale under
$100,000, any sale over, it's 10%.
You know, and if it gets over 10 million, they'll take 6% or whatever it is.
It goes that direction because it's going that direction.
The government and is...
I'm not sure people get the point you're making.
Stayed it more clearly.
What I'm saying is, is Chuck, they do this thing all the time where they go,
Adams, the rich guy, and he pays the same percentage or lower...
Same percentages, Chuck, the poor guy.
Okay.
Chuck the poor.
The poor guy pays in $6,200 a year, and I pay in $2 million a year.
So I should pay a much lower percentage.
I should pay in 10% when Chuck pays in 40%, and then his 40% would be $8,000, and then my 10% would be $720,000, and I'd be
contributing a lot more than Chuck.
But instead, their argument is Chuck pays 30%, and that's $6,200.
Carolla pays $2 million, but he's only paying 30%.
He shouldn't be paying the same.
He should be paying 40%.
Well, that's a fucking backwards argument.
That's like saying, if you sell VW Beetle, the auction house will charge 10%, and that sale was $27,000.
But if you buy a Lamborghini and it's a million dollars, we want 20%.
That's backwards.
And by the way, the mansion tax is the same fucking thing.
The mansion tax in L.A. is if it's under $5 million, it's 4%.
But if it's over 10 million, it's 5%.
It's like, you should be going the other direction with this.
And I think when the history books are written, perhaps the most significant,
statement Trump ever made was, if it happened to me, it'll happen to you.
And this is them, you're talking about income tax.
This is asset.
Any, I get it.
This is, but this is stealing.
No, it's stealing, but so is the mansion tax.
Yeah.
It's a property tax, right, is that?
I mean, it's an, well, for most people.
Property tax is stealing, too.
Let's be fair.
For most people, all their asset is in their house.
Yeah, yeah.
And, but again, once again, you're going to a higher percentage when you get to 10 million.
You should get a break.
Every entity works that way.
And by the way, there's no such thing as me saying, look, when you sign up for anything,
you sign up for a subscription or something, whatever, they go, well, three months, it's $60.
We do six months, it'll be $49.
You'll do a year.
It'll be $37.
You buy 10 hot dogs.
that's $20.
But if you buy 40 hot dogs, that'll be $35, right?
Everything is that way except the fucking government,
which means they don't know anything about,
which means they have a gun.
It's the anti-Costco, anti-Costco mechanism.
And the fact that this is now asset acquisition,
which they've never done before.
Government has never done before.
This means they don't stop here.
They never stop.
They always keep going.
They only have one direction.
All right.
We've got to get more into this in the next show.
This Friday, Saturday, Salt Lake City, Utah, wise guys, comedy club, six and eight-thirty, two shows each night.
San Diego Salana Beach, then on Sunday, why shouldn't I work a weekend on a change, you know, so I can pay off the old lady, right?
That's it.
Yeah.
It's your responsibility, man.
It's my responsibility.
Two shows over there in Salana Beach.
Pay the taxes first.
Oh, yeah, then, right, right.
Belly up.
And Phoenix, Desert Ridge Improv next weekend after that.
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What do you got, Drew?
Go to Dr.com and also follow me on X at Dr. Drew.
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