The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2092 - Empathy is a SUPERPOWER! | Part 2

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Adam and Dr. Drew reflect on how dramatically high school and society have changed since they were young, with Adam recalling why things like yearbooks and school photos were never priorities in his household. The conversation turns to the KROQ documentary screening they attended over the weekend and how it highlighted the cultural differences between the 1980s, 1990s, and today. They also discuss changing gender roles, major world events that permanently altered their perspectives, and react to actor John C. Reilly's comments about empathy being a superpower.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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looking like a high school graduation picture here with my cool background. Yeah, your blue background. God, that was part of, well, part of my families break, you know, when families can really break their kids like pretty early, you know what I mean? If you hit them hard enough. Well, what I mean is, is all you have to do is make a big deal. out of money for like the first three years of that kid's life. I don't mean the first three years, but from like, you know, seven to ten, and they'll never ask you for another dollar.

You can just break up. But you and I, hang on a second, make a big deal. Most families do that. You and I were exposed to something special. That was more than just making a big deal. It was deprivation. Yes, yes. So you're speaking of the background from the school pictures.

Every year you take a photo. for your school ID. Can you imagine that, Drew, a school ID. I say that's racist, but either way. And it was also your yearbook pick. It was your school ID and your yearbook pick. But every year they had some sort of outside company who did the pictures and they would sit there. They'd set a table up.

And then they'd say, would you like to sign up for three pictures that are desks, size and then how many wallet size and how many, you know, whatever size and you get the picture. I don't know. Three weeks later, you get a manila envelope with 13 pictures of you in it, right? Right. I never even inquired or discussed it with them. I just walked past the table, you know, and everyone else would be signing up for 10 wallet and three desk ties. And I didn't, I was like, why, for a lot, I'm looking at the prices.

This is like $13 here. Like, there's no way. But also the breaking, I realized, too, was they literally had desk size and wallet size. And I don't think my dad had a desk or a wallet. So I don't know what we're going to do with these pictures. Number one. But the last thing, I knew that the last thing my dad wanted, if he had a desk, was to sit at it and look at a picture of me. Yeah.

He would pay to just have the generic picture that came with the frame versus his son or his daughter. And so I was so broken by this experience. And my mom didn't have a wallet. And she didn't have a desk either. So I literally, they both, my grandfather had a desk. That was considered exotic in my family. Like he's really doing something on that desk. Oh, no, no desks, no wallets.

So no pictures. Did you ever ask to do it, like when you were younger or anything? And if not, just an interesting thought experiment, how do you imagine your mom would respond if you brought the request home? The thing about the request is grade school was through the sixth grade, right? and through the sixth grade, they did not have picture packets and stuff like that, as my recollection. And that seemed to start in junior high. And also yearbooks were a junior high thing. Things may have changed now.

The yearbook started. And then you got to high school and they had things like yearbooks and letterman jackets and things of that nature. Now, that was all a no-fly zone. I wouldn't have had a yearbook. A yearbook would $18. You know what I mean? So none of it, there were no picture packets. There were no yearbooks.

There was no, there's no letterman jackets. There's no any of that, any of that stuff. But by the time I got to junior high, I was, you know, 12 years old. I'd been sufficiently broken. There's not, there's no way I was asking. I just imagine your mom getting mad. Like, sort of like, are either just ignoring you going back in the room and saying the and her bedroom and saying freak out or getting kind of angry with the request.

I wouldn't go to my mom and say, I need X amount for a yearbook or I need X amount for a letterman jacket or a packet of photographs with yours truly face on it. I wouldn't have gone to her because it wouldn't have made sense. Really no different than if you were walking down the street. you just saw a random cleaning woman sitting at a bus stop. Would you go up to her and go, I'd like you to buy me a yearbook? Like, it wouldn't compute, right? You go, no, she's not going to do it. Why would she do it? You know what I mean? Like, she's going to buy you a yearbook? No, is I going to do that? Like, that's how I looked. I literally looked at them that way.

You're going to go to your mom. You're going to say what? And then she's going to go, I don't have anything. And then that's going to be a waste of time. And I'll tell you one thing, me being, pattern oriented. Maybe this is where some of those patterns came from or the understanding of it. I knew who everyone was immediately. And there's no way. Would your sister make more of a fuss?

My sister was and still is a female. And so she probably had a little less pragmatism in terms of a little more emotionality. You know, she's sort of wanted things a little more. Look, she

She ran away in the ninth grade, so she understood more than anybody who these people were. You know, there's a kind of bottom line pragmatism we all have. You're just a cat and you're straying. There's no milk in the saucer. You're not going to hang out on that porch that often. You know, you go. Eventually you go, yeah. Well, you find another porch where there's milk in the saucer.

And also, you'd be sort of a fool to keep waiting on that same porch is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there wasn't, she may have had some ideas early on about getting some stuff from them, but she did the, she did the calculation in the math pretty quickly and was out of there. And that was that as well. But they carried it, they literally just carried it through their entire, they made it their entire life that way. which is it was fine it's fine if you're old and successful

it's not good when you're living under the same roof and sort of counting on them for the yearbooks and the and the letterman jackets but all right Drew so I've got a bunch of thoughts today and one is I was thinking about Gadsad's construct of suicidal empathy

which, you know, I love him. I love the construct, and it's gotten people talking about it. But Mike Sernovich put something up today that I agreed with, which is essentially Gads frame didn't go far enough for you. He could even say you got it wrong. These people have no empathy, no empathy, and the people that they're complaining on behalf of

are serving some narcissistic function for them. I mean, the big liability of narcissist is they don't have empathy and they have envy. So other people are just sort of there to kind of serve a function for the individual for the narcissist. And suicidal empathy implies empathy on some level. Yeah, so let's break it down. Yeah. Gadsat calls it super, sorry, suicidal empathy, which is, I have empathy. I'm trying to help this person, but it ends up importing a bunch of terrorists and rape gangs,

and it turns into a shit show. But what you're saying is it's not empathy. It's narcissism. It's essentially wanting to have people get pats on the back and plotts and have people think you're a good person because you care so much about the, and you don't do anything for those people. But on so many levels, the narcissism is served, right? I'm a politician. I bring a bunch of people in.

Then I want to give them the vote because I'm such a good person. Oh, it just so happens the vote for me. Right. Oh, yeah, right. Or I'm working with the homeless population and somebody dies related to medication to opiates and rigs that I gave them. Not my fault. I was helping. Yeah, yeah.

You know, it's on so many levels. Right, right. So what Gadsad is doing, I mean, I mean, I'm. I think he's kind of coining a phrase, but he's trying. He's giving them the benefit of the doubt going, they think they're doing good, but they end up doing a lot of destructive behavior policies. But what we're saying is I don't think they think they're doing good. They don't give a fuck.

They're in it to win it for themselves. And you're right. This is where like USAID and all these NGOs and all this bullshit, they think, they're helping the kids. I don't think they think that. I think they're just enriching themselves. And so you're right. But who wrote this article? Sorry. They can't quite do that, Mike Cernovich. They can't quite, it was just an ex post and somebody worth following. Right. It's a little more subtle than that because narcissists don't, they're not typically. I mean, if they have the dark triad, they can get this way. But they're not typically mercenary.

they're confused if you were to push back on them because I'm doing good. What are you talking about? It just happens to serve my needs. It just happens to work my direction. Right. And then then here's the, but here's the really interesting thing to me that, that I was,

I'm sort of mortified slash thinking a lot about lately is when somebody goes, hey, uh, you're killing those guys on the streets. Oh, you're a helpful, hateful person. And shit, did I freeze again?

You froze. You're a hateful person. If you're a hateful person, you don't care. All the aspects of my narcissistic personality that I can't handle and don't even acknowledge, I project them all out onto you. Right. And so you're a Nazi, all that rhetoric, all that shit. It's just narcissism.

We've said it periodically over the years, all roads lead to narcissism. But I'm so clear on it now. with just all narcissism. Well, to be fair, I said it all those years ago, but you were smart enough to agree with me. Yes. Yes, it's all narcissism. It's all that.

And you hear it every single time Michelle Obama opens her mouth. You just hear narcissism, just sort of pour out. Also, a lot, it seems to be more prevalent with women. Like when you hear Gavin Newsom's wife speak, It's always about here's the kind of person I am. And when I see injustice, I speak out, you know, and I stand up. And it's really confusing to people like us because it, you would never speak that way about yourself. You know what I mean?

Like, I see, I see injustice and I stand up. It's almost talking in the third person. It is. Right. No, it is. It is. Jennifer Newsom does this. It is, it is your, it is a.

white version of the black athlete third person. It really is. And it is. When she's talking, she's talking about herself as if she's talking about some heroin from from Viking lore, some female that fought, he stood up and fought the Huns or whatever war there in. Like she speaks about her like Joan of Arc, except for she's talking about herself, except for she lives in a mansion and doesn't do anything. Right. Which is the crazy part. I've also warned you that all this bravery talk and all this he's a hero and, you know, so-and-so is getting

the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, and I've never met someone so brave. You know, brave what? You're an actor. You know what I mean? You're not fighting in a war. So, yes, this is compensation, all the acting. sorry, all the brave. And so it's like the rock star is the compensation, the other direction.

They're both. So the young kid who put the gay flag in front of his house is a rock star, right? And then the other person who put the gay flag in front of the house and they live in West Hollywood is a brave hero, except for they didn't do shit. By the way, these people are always pussies. Dr. Drew, this is on your end, so I'm told your seize up. But, you know, listen, I can see you and the audience can hear you. I look like the, look, now I am, I'm actually portraying the cigar store wooden Indian that you have always accused me of being, there I am. It's exactly as you predicted.

All right. So what else is on your mind? So that's really bothering me because I'm not sure how to manage it. It's, I think it's the media that's amplifying it in ways that are really disgusting. But what's interesting to me is I think it was the K-Rock doc that we did last weekend, the screening of the K-Rock doc that we did that got me going. I'll tell you what my reaction was, but I'm wondering if you, I guess you've been with it a long time working on this thing. But what are your thoughts on what the world was like in the 1980s and 90s?

Well, I think, as you know, I'm a broken record with my gyno-fascism. I think most of this is women just taking power in the media and in government and in all facets of life and sort of running an agenda. and there was a huge chasm or separation between men's roles and women's roles and how they interacted and what they did and things women would never do, you know, back in the 80s, back in the 90s when we were sort of doing that, they would never spit at ICE officers and stand in front of vans and punch other women in airports and women. I mean, you got to look at it this way, Drew.

Let's just break it down. We'll break the math down. I'll tell you what. Let's take a quick break ironically, and we'll come down, come back, and we'll break down the female math right after this. This is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla show. If you care about predictions, you care about props. And right now, it's all about playoff pressure from the hardwood to the ice.

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Yeah. And I never really thought about this. It's all right. Oh. Is there a issue? Oh, okay. Well, shut your fucking mics up. Now, you think about elections being won, all these elections.

All over the world, I'm always surprised. Like this guy in the Labor Party's got 49.7%. But then in the Democratic Socialist Party, he's got 48.9. It's like it's like a couple of points one way or the other. It's not even full points. It's tens of points. You know what I mean? Every year we have an election.

It's not like one guy gets 70%. The other person gets 30%. somebody gets 51 and a half percent, the other gets 48 and a half percent. And it's like, that's the difference. A couple of points, you know. All right. So women, while barely the majority, are still the majority. I mean, if it was an election every year and women just voted for women, we'd never have a male president ever again.

They'd win by 0.7 percent. But we never, I don't know. Look it up, Andrew. What are we in the United States? Anyway, here's a point. Yeah. You take that giant populace, which is the majority of the population. And you think about what they were busy doing and what they were thinking about and how involved they were when you're looking at that K-Rock footage from back in the day, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And now you fast forward to where they're at now. I mean, we're in Los Angeles. we have our choice between this woman and that woman to see who the mayor is going to be. We don't, formally, it was a choice between two dudes. And then at some point it'd be a choice between a dude and a woman. And now it's a choice between two women.

And they're ruining the city because they're running it emotionally and not practically. Right. And, you know, when people, I was yelling. at somebody online about all this COVID shit and Fauci. I looked it up, Drew. On 2020, July 31st, that's when Fauci got in front of Congress and Jim Jordan grilled him. And I knew it was a Friday because I was heading to the airport and I was yelling at everyone in the car. This guy's compromised.

And nobody gave a shit, by the way. But you should know, six years ago, I said the dude was compromised. Now, listen, hey, I want you to know that I heard you. I just didn't know what it, I couldn't appreciate the full extent of what that meant. But I heard you. I was there. The next week we talked about it. And you just kept saying it.

And then you kept saying people got played. Do we talk about it on our podcast the next week? I believe so. Because I heard you saying it loud and often. It's a funny thing because I told my crew the next time we came back and Drew and I got together, we were talking about in the podcast, and they look for it, they can't find anything, which is weird, but I seem to recall that as well. Anyway, could be, I don't know, chat GPD.

We talked about a lot. That's for sure. We both talked about our, I remember at the time talking about our admiration for Jim Jordan and seemingly just to get at the fact. I remember the whole conversation, but maybe it was a few weeks ago. Well, here's the lesson you missed. Yeah. You're not a little bit compromised or sort of compromised.

You're either compromised or you're not. Absolutely. missed that point. And my point was, I don't need to hear any more from this guy because he's compromised. And then you go, well, what does Black Lives Matter have to do with COVID? I go, it has everything to do with it because he's compromised. Yeah, I didn't get it. Listen, man, COVID open. Thank you, Mr. Corolla, for adding COVID open my eyes. Yes, yes. And what is, holy moly. What's BLM protests have to do with lab origins or COVID origins or Ivermectin? Because he's compromised. And that's, and that's, covers everything. When you're compromised, that covers everything. Okay, so for people that may

have been naive, I would call myself naive, maybe just dull. What, describe what you mean by compromise for everyone else? He was not purely going off the data and making informed decisions, purely based on data. And he had distorted, motivation. Therefore, everything was interpreted through that motivation. He had distorted motivation in one department. Yeah. Yeah. One direction. He was like an umpire that had distorted motivation calling balls and strikes, but also what if there was a play at the plate? I would assume the same distortion would affect that. And so people go, well, maybe he's just having trouble with balls and strikes. I'm going, no, he's going to have trouble at place on the plate, too. Yep, yep.

He's going to have trouble all around the diamond because he's distorted. His motivation is distorted. There's something profound that we need to kind of pay attention to because a lot of people are compromised these days. Yes, and it's never in a bubble. Yeah. It just, it just isn't. So, by the way, United States women make up 51.25 of the citizen voting. age population, men 4875. So it's a couple of points in there. Plus. Anyway, here's my point. When you take the majority who was engaged in many other activities other than government and activism and pundits in newsrooms, colleges, college professors, things of that nature, and, and now you take that majority and you make them fire chiefs and captains and senators and lawyers

and professors and mayors and governors, it's going to change the landscape. And it's going to change it in a good way or a bad way, but it's going to change. And I would argue not in a good way because you're taking a more engineering pragmatic brain and you're moving it into a different feelings-based empathy brain. And now when then you get the proclamation, then COVID comes along and the announcement is if one person dies, that's one person too many. Well, that's not the brain you want in charge of COVID

because that means shut schools and shut restaurants and devastate the economy in perpetuity. And I don't want that. And every time I argue with someone about COVID, They always show me some picture of some 19-year-old who died. I know they had pre-existing conditions, but they always go, this is a healthy. Is that okay? Is that okay?

Yes, that's life, bitch. It is okay. It's okay because the alternative is closing schools in society, which affect millions of people. Just like X amount of people died taking the beach at Normandy. Is that okay? well, if it means defeating Hitler and the Nazis, I guess it's okay. So I wonder if it's time to revisit something that I used to bring up and get your input on whether it's meaningful now, which is I told you how I saw the trend towards narcissism that I documented it in a study. I saw the borderline disorders coming on really big time in women.

then I saw these same borderline patients becoming attorneys. Like that seemed to be how they acted out their emotional. Borderlines act out their emotions. This is how they acted them out. And then they became judges. And I'm thinking now they become politicians. Well, there's still judges. I mean, all this, there's a new story every day about some activist judge striking down Trump's voter ID, whatever.

or deporting illegals or whatever it is. Yes. And they're mostly, mostly women, by the way. Of course. Of course. And what I'm wondering is, because that's who this affects this disorder,

people can criticize me for, you know, using the term even. People are very, it's a controversial term right now. But I'm wondering if what you're complaining about is not women, but borderline. Because you and I have discussed how sort of other countries,

it doesn't seem to have the same kind of impact that it does here. Interesting. Yeah. Well, look, if more women are borderline than men, then it is a female problem. But it is, but if we could sort of suss that out and pay attention to it and judge it and that kind of thing. Listen, it's a super simple equation. Traditionally, the judges were male. And when the young black youth gets pulled in front of them, for the seventh time, and they look into the eyes of this poor 17-and-a-half-year-old who just you know bonged an Asian elderly lady on the top of head with a cinder block. You feel some compassion.

You feel like somebody, that's somebody's child and so on and so forth. And so you go lenient and you parole the kid, and then the kid pushes someone onto the railroad tracks, you know, a month later. Now, the male. While he may have compassion is more pragmatic, sees his kids a repeat offender, tries him as an adult and gets him off the street. Okay. The female does not. Now, we used to have zero female judges and 100% male judge.

Now it's, I don't know, 50-50. So there's going to be X amount more of those young people on the street because of... According to the movie, the film industry, it's 100% black females. It's 100% black female judges. You are correct. You know who still has the market cornered in the white man heterosexual film world? Shitty sheriff? Ah, yeah.

Funny, shitty, shitty contractor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Contractor who gouges is always, there's always going to be room for white heterosexual male on crappy contractor. Here's the comedy. where there's sort of fraud. Yeah. Where there's sort of somehow they're kind of shady. They're fraudulent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Any, any, any, any, any, any, any contractor that's, you know, a mechanic that gouges the elderly couple in the movies, definitely going to be a white dude. All right. Which, which, yes. Okay, go ahead. Andrew's interested in your input on this John C. Riley empathy video.

Oh, yeah. That's making the rounds. Now, I barely looked at it, so I have to see it. I've seen it a couple times. I enjoy it. Now, he sounds to me in it just like a dope. It doesn't, he doesn't sound. But he sort of presents that way a little bit.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. He just sounds kind of dopey to me in it. But it's also part of, What we've talked about a lot, which is the left who's in this bubble and never really looks at motivation. Yeah.

It's like, what's, uh, RFK Jr. doing? He hates kids. He, he wants to bring cruelty. He's cruel. No, he wants to punish. Eli Musk wants to kill kids with the restricting USAID. Yeah. Well, he doesn't, he's scared of people who look different than him and he wants to punish them.

Yeah. You know, and I'm always like, it's sort of like the bond. villain. You know what I mean? The villain wants to get rich. He doesn't want to spend a bunch of time punishing people for no reason. You know what I mean? All right. Well, just listen to John C. Riley. You know, if you stand up for human rights, why is that a right or a left thing? Why aren't people on the right wing concerned about human rights? They're human too. This whole thing that like kind has come into vogue of like empathy trap. You know, it's an empathy trap. You know, like that's an Elon Musk says, like, empathy is like, don't be fooled by the empathy trap.

Yes, yes, yes. You know, stick to your agenda and what's best for you. Holy fuck. You know, don't start feeling bad for so-and-so. They're on their own thing. Look out for number one. Like, it's like, wait a minute, empathy is not a trap. Empathy is a superpower.

That's what makes human beings exceptional. Part of the problem all the time is there's always someone sitting in front of these stubs going, oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's right. God. Now, all right, so hold on, hold on. Stop doing it.

You know, our last episode when we were talking to the brain doctor, I asked him, are men and women like, who's more curious? And he did a double talk for a minute. And then I said, now who's more curious? And he did more double talk because he didn't want to get trapped. But I didn't let him go. See, he kept saying the frontal lobe. And I was like, okay, but bottom line, men are more curious. And look, I'm not trying to be rude.

I'm not trying to be a dick. No, you're annoying. I'm asking a question. I want a fucking answer. Your double talk is not helping me arrive at my answer. And by the way, not being curious is not a crime. Right. Right.

Okay. So stop nodding your head feverishly when John C. Riley goes on one of his retarded tangents. All right, roll it back, I don't know, 10 seconds. Let's listen. Here we go. Gender and what's best for you. Holy fuck. You know, don't start feeling bad for so-and-so.

They're on their own thing. Look out for number one. It's like, wait a minute, empathy is not a trap. Empathy is a superpower. That's right. That's what makes human beings exceptional, our ability to like look outside of ourselves. We're not an alligator trying to just get the next fish, you know? We're human beings.

We can relate to something that's not us that, you know, like that's a superpower. And it's also the cornerstone of civilization. The fact that we stay at the red light and don't just zoom out because we want to get through the light faster because what will happen? Well, we might smash into someone. Well, you don't know that person. Yeah, but I still don't want to smash into them. He's a hero, Adam. He's a hero.

I apologize. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. You don't do it because you don't want to get T-boned and killed. Right. In the intersection. So we're right. That's the invisible hand of capitalism and so forth that says, you know, it's not just for the well-being of the other person that you stop. It's also for your well-being.

We get it. Okay, good. You're a hero. Excuse me. I do feel. Hold on. There's a little more to go here, Drew. Maybe there's a sheer amount.

Then we'll commentate. Red light. And don't just zoom out because we want to get through the light faster because what will happen? Well, we might smash into someone. Well, you don't know that person. Yeah. but I still don't want to smash into them. You know, like, those are the building blocks of civilization.

That's the agreement that we treat, and it's very Catholic to do unto others. Yeah. Treat your brother as you would as you would treat yourself, you know, like. And to your point about the right way. It's crazy that we have to argue for these things right now. It's insane. That's a really upside down world feeling to me. Right. Right.

Yeah. It's so, it's weird. I mean, again, it's narcissism. Narcissism. Yeah. The other side doesn't. No, the other side is interested. Yeah. You want a wide open border in sanctuary cities. The other side doesn't hate Mexicans.

They don't want illegal criminals in their neighborhoods who possibly kill people. And by the way, when you look at some of these illegal, I was listening to a conversation today about Haitians in Springfield, Ohio. And he was saying, look, if you really, rather than just glorifying everyone living in, you know, what the Haitians are amongst us, you'd be helping them. You'd be helping them build their families, do better in school, learn English. But the free immigrants are like, okay, they're here. Our job is done. And they're not thriving, but, hey, well, they're voting for me. Right.

I know. So this sort of insanely overly simplistic, the other side is mean. Yeah, go ahead. There's a piece here that I've been struggling with. Let me take a break and we'll get back to what Drew's been struggling with. Right after this. Hello, and welcome to Pluto Fo. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see,

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And some of them are like professionals, they have families. They just have nowhere to go. They're running away from war. And that's where your empathy should have played, right? Right then, how can we get these people relocated? How can we help them? Not just, okay, open the board, shouldn't they come? it's you know war sucks war is horrible i was reminded of that

Elon Musk has been talking lately about how the economy is going to grow 10-fold because of 10x he said because of um you know the robots and whatnot i'm inspired i'm fascinated he goes unless there's war and i thought yeah this is just a reminder we just keep in mind how how horrible war is and it really initiated so much of the stuff that has become distorted now as well we're just we are welcoming it because we're good people not because it's jews fleeing germany into scandinavia that was a different thing um so john c riley yeah simple i think he can be brought along i think he can be brought over he's like i feel like he's halfway able to come all the i don't know i just i have optimism that he can be brought along i i i i

I am deeply insulted with the sort of racist, homophobic, xenophobic, bad, stupid bad person. This notion of like, I wanted schools to open during COVID and I have kids. You think I want my kids harmed from COVID? Is that what you think? He doesn't care about anything but his bottom line. I'm not getting paid to open the school, you idiot. It's like, but here's what I'm saying.

Could you be a little more nuanced in your thinking? Exactly. Could you be a little bit more nuanced in that Adam Carolla doesn't want his kids to die? Or all kids. Right. Or kids of color. But if you're narcissists and borderline, especially, it's all black, white thinking. And I'm going to project my shitty feelings onto you.

Right. Yes, but it's it's insulting. And also like, you know, when you think about these people who you disagree with or they disagree with, you know, they hate Dennis Prager or Thomas Sol or Ben Shapiro or whatever, do you think these people aren't, you think they're dull people? You know what I mean? You think they're bigoted? Do you think they have sort of small-minded folks? These are people that play instruments and speak multiple languages. is these are not dumb people.

Why don't you take a minute and see really what they're talking about? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And we're getting back to the narcissism thing with them because it's so accessible now. You can find, you can use your phone and find out what Charlie Kirk's talking about, what Ben Shapiro's talking about, with Dennis Prager's talking about, any of these people. You could do it, but you don't. And you never do.

Now, why is that? That's the question. And that's where the narcissism comes in. But also, it's kind of a form of stupidity. You know, like, I would always say to you, I would say to anybody. But, you know, people go, this guy, you know, he just kicked the side of my car when he's walking down the street. I go, why do he do that? Because he's an asshole.

Right, right. And I go, it's actually a name for that. It's called the fundamental attribution error. Right. You attribute characteristics of the individual based on their behavior as opposed to circumstance, motivation, all those things. Yeah.

Now, he was on a bike and you cut him off and then he kicked the side of your car. But it didn't just do it because he's an asshole because that doesn't serve him. You know what I mean? It just means God knows what could happen to him. But now, the people who think that way are always. There was this, it's always surprising to me, but it's also how many people think that way. And now you just, John C. Riley in his Hollywood bubble just thinks about half the countries that way. They're just cruel people who don't care.

They're not empathetic. Well, at least he's saying, how could that be? And then you've got to, then you've got to grab them and go, yeah, it's not. Here's how it could be. You're misinterpreting what's going on. You know what I'd say to John C. Riley? I had the guy in here from Tunnel the Towers who rebuilds homes for injured veterans and gets them special handicapped showers and things of that nature, right? Is he a Nazi?

I would like, by the way, I'd like that guy and charge all the homeless building because he's not one of his NGOs. You donate. I donate to him every month. He would run away screaming so fast, though, from California. Come on. And he efficiently builds these disabled veterans homes, right? I said to the guy when he came in here, I said, you, I see your shit on Fox every, every third commercials, a tunnel to towers thing on Fox, right? And I get up there with Stallone and Mark Wahlberg and blah, blah, blah.

I go, I've never seen a tunnel the towers commercial on CNN. It's just a nonprofit. The money goes to veterans and firefighters and cops. And it's funny, I like when people are sort of avoid and magnanimous at the same time. He goes, oh, we tried some stuff with CNN, but it didn't work out. And I said, what do you mean it didn't work out? Like CNN gave you a hassle or CNN? No.

No, I mean, it was fine. fine, but we, we, we do our commercials on Fox. I go, I know you're all on Fox all the time, but I watch CNN. I've never seen it on CNN. So what's the difference? It didn't work. Basically, no one on CNN, none of the viewers would donate. Right. It's a waste of money. It's a waste of his time and money. Right. Because they don't give a fuck about cops and firemen and veterans. They're, they're the enemy. They're the bad people. So fuck off. Well, not only that. Even if it was the good people, they would have to serve some function for me. I'd have to get some status or have to make me feel good about whatever,

you know, part of some group. So if I'd like to say to John C. Riley, listen, there's a group that builds handy, capable homes for disabled veterans who come back missing limbs and legs and brain injury and everything else. One side, the Fox side, the side you say lacks empathy, gives all their money to that group, and then the other side gives nothing. That's your side. That's CNN.

We're just talking about disabled veterans. How is that in your retarded world? How do you explain that? How can you explain that? How come the cruel people do all the donating and the good people who love everyone are inclusive and all they want to do is help and have all the empathy you've been talking about that's lacking for. the other side, how come they don't give any fucking money to disabled veterans?

I would love to hear the weird, circular, distorted reasoning around supporting fascistic agendas or who knows what the hell. You know what I mean? It would start a lot with how do you know that? You know that to be true? I've never heard that. There'd be a lot of that. And then there'd be some sort of.

Well, then it'll be, of course, they support cops and the accord military, they're belligerent, blah, blah, blah, that kind of thing. Right. Now here's the boots on the ground, pardon the pun version of this. The guy whose job it is to raise money for these veterans that are disabled declared it a waste of time to advertise on CNN. Yeah. Or any left wing station. What? I don't know. That seems pretty good to me in terms of who supports disabled. He knows better than anybody.

he didn't, you know, read a pie chart. He just ran 50 commercials on CNN and got nothing in return. It goes a little bit at that, hey, I love my country. Right. Oh, do you? Right. All right. What else are you thinking about, Drew?

So I want to get back a lot of stuff, but I want to go back to the Kirok, doc. I mean, I still want to hear more. You said that there were people busy doing stuff. I had like an emotional reaction to it, not just because it was. was my history, but more than anything, because what the enthusiasm, the vitality, the fun of that era just does not exist. It makes me feel bad for young people. Like, what, what, now we had our shortcomings and whatnot, but, you know, what made, you know, 5,000 kids wait in line for Depeche Mode to get an autograph and in good spirits, even though they couldn't even get in,

they still were having fun. There was no, you know, oh, it's, you know, they're out, they put me at the end, nothing, nothing personal in it other than we're out sharing, having good time with our, with our music community. That does not exist in any way that I've seen now. Yeah, because the bummer patrol has taken the wheel. Yeah. And the bummer patrol was around.

Also, the bummer patrol with retarded ideas was around for a long time. Yep. I know it because my mom was a captain of the Bummer Patrol. She's a decorated veteran of the Bummer Patrol. And but I was thinking about this on the ride here today. Nobody listened to my mom. Well, they did in the 70s, right? And this was all a reaction to that.

Yeah, they kind of did. But what I'm saying is there was a small group, more women, men, but a lot of how can you enjoy yourself when you think about the trail of tears and what this country has done in the past. And those people were kind of marginalized and sidelined. Like, they were sort of pushed off to the side. And there was some dude with a gold nugget watch and a cigar going, get out of the car, bitch. Bummer bitch. I'm doing the driving. And then head to Vegas for a good time, you know. Now those people, have essentially taken over.

And so we're living in the middle of the Bummer Patrol. So. Well, I think they had a good handle on things in the 70s, too. But I just thought of something I've never thought of it. Yes, but they weren't every news anchor on TV. Right. It wasn't every politician. There was just the people who, you know, they made Billy Jack.

And what Billy Jack would do is it would give people like my mom ammunition in the Bummer Patrol. but the mayor of Los Angeles was not a bummer, and neither was the governor and neither was the president. Yeah. So we handed it over to them. We got Jimmy Carter and Jerry Brown and all that during the 70, didn't we? The Bumber Patrol, they had their, they had their times. It's a lot, the Bummer Patrol runs off of safety.

It's a lot of like, we got to be safe. and what about these people? Right. And so. Safety Uber Alice. Right. But my thought that I've never had before was, what would your mom do with a phone and social media? What would that look like?

What kind of post would she put up? Oh, my God. She wouldn't, I don't think she would post. I think she would dial right into like Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon and stuff like that. I think you're underestimating her narcissism. I think she and Zorbach would, you know, show themselves. doing, God knows what, you know? Do you know what I mean? Kind of, but my mom's physical appearance was such that she didn't like to be photographed.

And so there wasn't going to be a lot of videos of her. There would be some declarations on X, that's for sure. There'd be declarations. Yeah, there'd be some standard bumper sticker, no humans illegal, and, you know, things, fences don't keep people out. out they keep people. Like there'd be, she would repeat some of the sort of retarded adage stuff. Right.

Yeah. I would say, might, you know, retweet Nithia Rahman or somebody like that running for mayor of Los Angeles. You know, a couple things would, would hate,

you know, some hit piece on Elon would come out from the Washington Post and she would retweet that. There wouldn't be a lot of pictures of her. doing stuff. That I can promise you. Again, I'm not sure I heard you tell me what your reaction was to that period of history that was portrayed in the documentary.

Is it nostalgic? Do you feel, I was depressed a little bit, I think, because not so much that it's days gone by, but it's like, man, I want young people to be able to do that again. Yeah, I mean, look, there's an element. of it that as a guy who lived in Los Angeles my whole life and I just see garbage everywhere and homeless everywhere I go, huh, I wish it was more like it used to be. Yeah. Right. And we have diversity now though. It's my, you know, Karen Bass has brought us diversity. So all, all is well. So yeah, there's like an element. I think there's always going to be an element if you, you remember your dad coming home in

1977 of that red brand new Corvette still had the dealer plates on it. And then at some point, you open the garage and it's got four flat tires and there's a raccoon living in the trunk. And there's a part of you that flashes back to that day when you were a young boy. And he came pulling up in that. You know, there's an element of that. Now, there's also a version of it where, you know, your dad gave it to you and you and your brother did a full restoration on it.

and now you're bringing it out to the car show and it won a blue ribbon. You know, there is that possibility. But we're... It seems... That possibility dangles in our imagination. It doesn't seem to be real. Right. We're in the open the garage and there's boxes and junk and rat droppings everywhere in it.

All right, Drew. All right. Tomorrow night, Carson City. and Andrew's going to be with me and it's serendipity because his nickname is Mr. Saturday night and the show is on a Saturday night. You'll know it when he hits that stage.

Also going to Kimmel's that'll be in July 9th and just two shows? Oh no, the 10th too, yeah. You go to Amcrow.com for all the live shows. Oh man, I'll be there for three days. What? All right, we'll figure this out.

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