The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2094 - Another Democrat Sexual Assault Scandal + What’s Worse: Climate Change or Racism? | Part 2

Episode Date: July 11, 2026

Adam and Dr. Drew debate what has been more detrimental to society: climate change or racism. They also discuss how the news can lead people to believe things that are not remotely true, before Adam introduces Dr. Drew to a new word. Later, Adam reflects on how the idea of being alone used to give him anxiety when he was younger, while now he genuinely enjoys his alone time. The guys also talk about how people used to experience boredom much more often than they do today, making it more important to find productive things to do, and Adam closes by recounting the long journey of apartment hopping he went through in the decade before starting Loveline with Dr. Drew.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, getting on, got to get on that, Jesse. Get on on Dr. Drew's board first, subsistence, disrespect, verbalist. It's going on there, Driskey. Well, good news. The U.N. has reported that entire nations are going to be swept away by, rising sea levels. Oh, man. The U.N. in January of 1989. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. What do you think is more injurious and what do you think's a bigger hoax? The whole climate thing or the whole race thing? If you really just stood back and looked at it. The climate thing has fucked up Germany and Europe and the globe. I will say that. The

race thing has fucked them up too, though, because now they got a lot of Muslims in there and they got issues. Yeah, but the race thing is strictly that you can't talk about things in a nuanced way. With the, with the, with the, when I don't, what's that mean? Like, you can't talk about race. You can't, you can't go, well, they talk about, they never stop talking about no, no, no, it's just all this or all that. It's, you're all. It's, it's caused a lot of damage. Yes. Oh, yes, it has. Yes, they've caused equal damage probably, equal damage. But the...

I mean, maybe... But think of the... Yeah, the climate... But there's an emotional side to it, too. They shut down nuclear plants in France. They shut them down in Germany. They build these crazy windmills that destroy the sea life. I mean, it just damaged so much.

It fucked the economies up. Yeah, really, really was bad. I'm just playing devil's advocate. But the race hustling has made... gotten a lot of people killed. Yeah. Climate didn't actually, I mean, it kills some people in that they freeze to death or whatever during the winter or whatever it is. But race stuff's got a lot of people killed.

I've made a lot of people miserable, too. The, the, let's, let's, let's say, you step back. By the way, it's all the, it's the same side that believes both, both things and are pushing both things that are destroying things. One, let's look at climate. Climate is changing. Humans may have nothing to do with it. You're not allowed to say that. Okay.

Race issues have existed. They were awful. And that's true. That's it. So the existence is factually so. You know what I mean? It's based on something real. But if you broaden out climate and you get to what we used to call ecology,

there were Hudson rivers and things that were unusable and they got cleaned up. Yes. You know what I mean? So there was actual stuff. Oh, yes, I was part of that. You were part of that. You and Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Jr. did a lot of that stuff. I did it the way he did.

He really did it. I mean, I was just sort of a cheerleader. Yeah. So, no, you don't do stuff, Drew. No. But you do cheer on those who do. It's true. And that's every bit as important.

Every bit, I'm telling you. The guy up at the top of the stands at the Super Bowl is every bit as important as that quarterback on that team. Do you know that drill? Yes, he's the, yes, he is. And you are the guys not quite in the stadium, but every bit as important is that guy's taking a snap from the center. Sitting home with my Doritos. You're sitting home eating, and your every bit is important. Yeah.

Understand? It's brayed it, yeah. All right. So it's how it felt. All right, I'm saying what has caused more destruction and damage. Yeah, it's hard to say. It's hard to say. They're both the two biggest fucking hoaxes of our time, along with COVID.

But see, to me, the overriding evil, so to speak, is the silencing of discourse. Yes. That's the part that's fucked up. Yes. And because if we could talk about these things and, you know, work through them and figure out how to, you know, stay in reality and solve them. Yes. Fine. But to just go, yeah, can't talk about it.

Well, first of all, it means that it's not all real. It's a hoax, right? As soon as you say you can't talk about it or you harm people who do talk about it. Well, I, yes, here's my thing. If you would like to try to explain to me why raisinets are better than goobers, I will run to come meet you and hear your folly. And if you're going to try to explain to me why rinsing coffee mugs is a bad thing, I'll listen. listen to all of it. And if you're going to tell me why red turn arrows are necessary, I'll hear you out and then I will destroy you. Yes. But trying to shut you down probably means I don't have a lot of conviction and a lot of faith in my story. Right. The ad hominem attack

tells you that's why I get so upset about the contemptuous smiles when people are debating because it's an ad hominem attack on the individual emotionally because you're just spouting shit. Yes. And you don't want to listen to what the other person has to say. There's a tweet I liked from this morning, Andrew. Wait a man. He's not in the booth.

He's busy not rinsing his mug. He's there. Oh, he's there. He's being gruntled. Gruntled is happy, Drew. I'm wrecking. I just learned that last show. Don't worry.

Be gruntled. Can't. Rinse a coffee mug. Foria and dysphoria. Mm-hmm. Yes. Well, no. He said satisfied.

Disatisfied. Yeah, foria and dis-forias. I mean, that's a little different. That's down what you start. No one says I'm foried, you know, but satisfied. Dis-satisfied. Okay. Andrew brought that up.

Lots of people say I'm gruntled. He is gruntled. No, he is. He is, he's, he's, he's gruntled. And, um, and, um, such a great word. You know,

oh God. What? I literally wrote down another word that was this way. Because it, because it's all very curb your enthusiasm to me. Like, are you disgruntled? No, no, I'm gruntled. Yeah.

You're not gruntled. I'm gruntled. You're not gruntled. I've seen the way you are. I've seen gruntled. I've seen gruntled. I've seen gruntled. I've seen gruntled.

I've seen gruntle. I've seen gruntled people. This is gruntle. This is a bruntle. Don't you see gruntle? Ask anyone. Larry's gruntle. You know what I mean?

Yes. There's a tweet I like from... What's the words you wrote down? You don't remember him? I have... Well, no, I have to go grab my pad. I could. But you'd make me talk, then.

I'd make you talk. From this morning, Andrew, where it was basically like number of black women killed by black men. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Number killed by white men. supremacist, zero, which I believe. Joe Biden ran on an entire platform of white supremacy.

And then the worst part is he got his bullshit FBI director, get up there and talk about how it was the biggest problem this country face. Do you want the FBI director talking about a problem that doesn't exist and saying it's the biggest one we face? The guy is in charge of protecting this country. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? It's insane.

What occurs to me, though, is how much has this bullshit been going on? How long? We're now aware of it. Thank you, COVID. But, you know, this kind of BS and the government may have been going on for a long, long, long time. Yeah, I know. And we just signed off. Well, first off.

We just let it happen. Can I say something? Yeah. Here's how I knew COVID wasn't affecting young teenagers or young people. because I couldn't find one in my neighborhood that died of COVID. Right. So then all of a sudden, I knew more than Fauci. I knew more than Fauci and Rochelle Walensky because they were lying.

And you heard CNN going on and on about people without ages. I knew. Right. I knew what was going on just by looking around. Yeah. White supremacy, clan, lynchings. Look around. Has seen anything?

Have you talked to anybody? You know what I mean? People go, oh, well, you live in Glendale? Listen, I travel the country. I go everywhere. I go to all big. I was in Tulsa two weeks ago. I was in Portland before that.

I go to parts of Green Bay you've never heard of. I mean, parts of Wisconsin you've never heard of. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Would stand to reason that when I was playing the comedy, whatever, and wherever Wisconsin, just once I would roll into town when they were having a rally, a clan rally. It would happen. It statistically, if it was a thing. You know what I mean? Because, for instance, I'll tell you what's a thing. Car shows are a thing. And periodically,

and quite often, actually, when I travel around, it just happened about a month ago in, I don't know, Sacramento or wherever we were. But it was told to me, hey, you know, Saturday, they're doing a car show up street. And, you know, mostly on by, take a little. And a cross burning and then a lynching. So I've run into tens of car shows because I'm there on a weekend and the sun's shining. And if you travel enough, they will be having a thing. Never a clan thing.

Never rally, a march, or whatever. So look around. If you've never seen it, How can it be the biggest problem this country's had? I mean, like I can turn on the news and see street takeovers every night. I can pick up my phone and see smashing grabs and tons of teens rushing into malls. Can you pick up your phone and see a clan rally? If the answer is it's not here, it's not here, you fucking idiots.

You're listening to liars. That's the problem. You're not trusting your own eyes. Right. nobody who told you COVID was going to kill you is dead because of COVID. No one. How is that possible? Right.

Sorry. No, that's right. And the fact is that we are being led in this. Hold on. Chuck, sorry. Chuck, go to the back clear coffee table back there and just grab my yellow pieces of paper or something, bring them in here. Thanks. I could find that word.

Keep going. He's moving off of that pre-gruntled state. He's going into a post-gruntled? He's moving into gruntled. Gruntled. A gruntled. Okay. But pre-gruntled is an interesting state.

But I know we're going to go, we're going to go find another word. But are you done with that topic? Yeah. I'm done. Oh, my God. The subject is just more bullshit pushed by the left. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you see this? Can you read that? Gruntled means to be in good humor, happy or satisfied. Gosh, we need a new sort of intermediate state between pre and post gruntled. Right. Huh. Here's the outside. I got it.

It was right at the top. What's the word? So you have to hear this like Larry David as saying it. So it would be you're disgruntled. I'm not disgruntled. I'm gruntled. You're not gruntled. Yes, I'm gruntled.

just had your mind bogled not bogled your mind bogled your mind was boggled no wasn't boggling no boggling no boggling gruntled no boggle I got gruntled with no boggle you heard that sometimes I'm post boggled by some of your statements Adam yeah well I'm post gruntled but not boggled not boggled not boggled All right, so bogled and gruntled. Boggling. Yes. All right. They're all strange words.

I wanted to go again around something you said last time we were together. And we passed it, but I wrote it down. And you talked about fairness between men and women. That things aren't fair. Not really. Not now. Right. No, I mean, we swung it with women like we swung it with black.

It's sort of like we went from Whitey's in charge to Whitey's not hireable. Right. Which is, that's too far swing. It was supposed to just be sort of an even thing. Yes. And with women, we went from, you know, you are, you know, it's the patriarchy and she's doing nothing but cleaning and serving you to she's not doing a fucking thing and you're doing everything and not getting no praise for it. And so nowhere more does that play out than in the legal system, right? 100%.

With the divorces and things where the marriage itself, at least financially, there's literally nothing in it for the man. No. Nothing. Not anymore. Yeah. Unless the woman's very, very wealthy, in which case he probably has already signed a pre-neptory. Right.

Because they're in charge. But because of this lack, and the fairness goes all the way down to some of the stuff we were talking about with coffee mugs and things, and annoyances. But because I see a lot of threads in social media about men, you know, there's a lot of concern about the fact that there's not a lot of dating and there's not a lot of sex and there's not a lot of marriage. And what I see the young men saying is, but there's nothing in it for me. Right.

Why would I do that? Right. And I wonder, A, is that right? Are we really there? and B, are we going to correct that? And if so, how? Right? Because the laws could change, but, you know, I'm going to liken it a lot to the phone.

Being late to, now not an event like a movie or a concert or something starts, but being late to lunch, you're going to meet a friend for lunch. And you're 10 or 15 minutes late. that used to be a thing. The person sat there, stared at the menu. You know what I mean? Like they just sat there. And then when you showed up, they were like a little,

hey man, come on now. Yeah. It's uncomfortable. I'm fucking sitting here just staring at a napkin holder for 15 minutes, right? Right. Every single time I've been late. And I'm not a late person, but shit happens. and I come pulling up, the person's knee-deep in their phone.

They're answering text. They're reading tweets. They're working. They're literally doing something productive. And then you come up and you go, I see them. They're burying their phone when you come walking into the restaurant, right? They, in fact, have to wind down. Like, hang out a second.

Yeah, I'm just finishing a text. Right. And then so you go in, you go, sorry I'm late. They go, oh, yeah, yeah, no, this problem. It's just catching up on some emails. Right, okay. they don't really need you anymore. You know, they got their phone.

Like late isn't late. They're not missing you. Okay. You know, they got their stuff. Okay. And, you know, I was kind of going through it with my son who would tell me he was going, he was going very long. I said to him the other day, and I can't remember if I told this, but I said, oh, where are you at now? He goes, oh, I'm heading out to Sequoia.

Oh, the trip. Yeah, the hiking. I'm going alone. I go, who are you camping with? I'm going alone. Unthinkable to camp alone. Unthinkable to do anything. And I said to him, you know, when I was your age, exactly.

I remember being really having anxiety about it. You know, like, I got to sit home Friday night. I get depressed, you know. Sunday night, I get the most depressed because I had to be at work the next day and it sucked and it was early. I would like literally. It was a disappointment. Yeah, I would call my friends. on Sunday at like four and I go let's go see a movie tonight and I'm pretty busy

whatever I go come on come on and like I felt oh felt empty and weird sad and now I don't at all I'm happy to have a break a little quiet little solitude whatever I'm old but I also realize I got a 80 inch TV and YouTube and I watch endless videos on LaMau and the Tijuana Brass and the Baja Marimba band. By the way, the Tijuana Brass is playing at the Hollywood Bowl, like right this weekend or something. I know. I'm out of town. I was going to go Herb Alper is what you're looking for.

But the point is this. And then I look down and I see 200 tweets on my phone. And then I kind of realize, would I be lonely? When I was 20, I had three stations. I had to wait until a George Michael's sports machine would come on, you know, on Saturday night just to show me some quick highlights from a football game or something. I could just sit there and watch endless videos on shit I was into. And by the way, obviously, YouTube, you want to watch Dotson Racing films? You can watch Dotson, Vintage Dotson Racing.

You can watch anything you want. I can watch myself. Pants down. So is he not more? Now, he's wired differently. He walks for 12 miles alone. But he's got earbuds in. He's listened to a podcast.

I had nothing. But sat with no air conditioning and no phone with three channels. There's nothing on that I wanted to watch. I could not watch Tarantino movies back to back or any of that shit. high-deaf and whatever. I don't know. Do we even need the other person anymore? All right.

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When you go from, you know, young person to adolescent to teenager, hormones. You got a lot of hormones. And I like, I don't have a lot of hormones coursing through me. So I'm able to just to kind of mellow out, watch my YouTube. But on the other hand, I don't know if young kids have a lot of hormones running through them anymore either. That's a concern, right? So they've turned down the hormones. All the information and education and infotainment they need is on their phone.

and on their TV. I don't know. Do they really need a companion anymore? Well, it's actually a profound question. And ultimately... Just picture the person at the restaurant waiting for you when you're half hour late. By the way, it's the best thing that ever happened to tardy people.

Yeah. Because I've not even been able to upset anybody. They're like, oh, no, thanks. I had to do some stuff anyway. I mean, whatever. Well, I think ultimately, even though it's interesting and it's potentially educational, ultimately it's distraction, right? It's really just distraction.

Yes. And there is something nourishing about interpersonal contact that you cannot get any other way. Just for instance, even for the cognitive functions, people I know that are expert in Alzheimer's will always say that socializing is the most important thing for the Alzheimer's because they deteriorate less quickly. Because we use so much of our brain when we socialize that we don't. even realize how much we use. So, and then there's something about the contact that is nourishing for our body and our autonomic nervous system and whatnot.

But the question is, maybe we need each other less. Oh, yeah. A lot of less. And, okay, less. But then, you know, look what's happening. People are getting stuck in their phones and becoming hysterical. Yeah, yeah. Right?

None of it's good. The interpersonal stuff would regulate that. Look, we need to go chop our own. wood, bring it in, start a fire, and cook our meals on an iron skillet. But we got Grubhub. Grubhub's not helping by any stretch of the imagination. But the future, all the innovation leads to a distance from a sort of tactile world. Tactile and chop your own wood, tactile and touch somebody, tactile and look somebody in the eye.

I would argue that part of the wood chopping is also touching and interoperable. personal stuff. It's all part of the same thing. We need. Question is, how much do we need? Well, we need less and less now that we have... Where do we need more and more? Grubhub. How important... How important is boredom, too? Oh, super important. Another good one.

Super important. Yeah. Super important. It doesn't exist. No, boredom is a... is a motivator. Dennis Prager had a great saying that I liked, which I thought was great. which is you're not bored, you're boring. Meaning get up and go unbored yourself. You know what I mean?

Constantly. Yeah, boredom is a motivator. I grew up in as bored and environment, bored was a big. It's oftentimes a feeling just before depression. Oh, but it is. It would bleed into depression all the time. I was bored off my ass because I don't. I don't reckon you can get more bored than I was, which is, well, I was heavily motivated, but let's try to figure this out.

I love talking to people with ideas, and I love talking to Drew, and I love talking to anyone with ideas. My mom did not talk. She didn't like talking, and it made her sort of uncomfortable. I mean, you can talk about nothing with her. But it sends you got... Dorothy Gravich. Yeah. As soon as you got some ideas, there was an issue.

And so there was not going to be any of that. My stepdad did not physically talk. And my mom physically spoke, but just sort of about muffins and Dorothy Gravich and sort of nothing. But my stepdad didn't physically talk. He didn't... He was silent. Yeah. He would sit.

Here's what you could do. Here's what you could do. You could sit. sit at a small table with my mom and anybody else and me and my step dad. Not that we would have this with my mom, but you could have a vigorous Chuck, Chuck and I. I could invite Chuck over for some gruntled conversation. Some gruntled conversation. I could invite Chuck over to my mom's house to have some lentil stew with no meat in it.

Lentils with gruntle. He would appreciate that. It was tasteless. And we would sit there. And Chuck and I could have a spirited argument for 10 minutes about the strike zone in baseball. That's what Chuck knows. And I would make the argument that I want a laser strike zone with a sensor in the ball so it can tell scientifically whether. And then Chuck would argue vehemently that that takes the spirit of the sport away.

and you're mechanizing everything. And next thing you know, we're going to have robot umpires. And do you really want to see that? Him and I could have a heated argument. He could be across the table. My stepdad, John, could be sitting at the same table. And 15 minutes in, I could stop and go, you know what? John, what do you think?

Robot umpire or old-fashioned strike zone? And he'd go, what? And then you'd go, the strike zone. And he'd go. Yeah. I didn't hear what you guys were saying. That's what would happen. And that would be the end of that. So my mom could physically talk as long as it was about nothing and a little bit depressing usually. Chakana studies. Yeah, yeah, but never. You know I like rims and tires. Yeah, yeah. There's no mechanical. There's no discussion about building or it was nothing. You couldn't talk about it. My stepdad John would not talk. So that. was difficult and then I didn't read so a lot of people I was going to say reading is another thing that's suffering really a lot of people could get lost in their tales of narnia yeah yeah I could not

I didn't read read it was depressing to me I would not read so then there was nothing on TV it was a little TV with three stations and I didn't have a TV in my room and then there's no phone and it was hot. So all I could do is go outside and sort of run around. Ride a unicycle. Teach yourself something. Yeah, I could literally go play one-on-one baseball using a ball of foil with my friend and a waffle bat or something, like just anything. I would sit around and I would wrench on my bike, but constantly wrench. And I didn't have good ranches. I didn't have a garage. By the way, I would go, would happily go to the garage and work on a mini bike or work on a soapbox derby race or something like that. I dreamt of

fantasized about going to a garage with tools. There was no garage. There was no tools. There was no mini bike. So I was just left in a house where there was nothing in the house. There wasn't food. There wasn't entertainment. There weren't people who talked. I didn't read. And there was nothing. There was nothing.

Oh, for the fourth part, I didn't have any money. There's no money. So I couldn't go to the hardware store and go, I'm going to build myself a soapbox derby race. There was no money for wheels. And there was no. Especially wheels. Wheels, wheels.

There was no money for anything. any hobbies either. So I found myself just sitting in my room trying to fix things, but like you're on an island, like with a butter knife. And like you'd have a pair of pliers, but it was never the right wrench or the right tool to do whatever it is I was trying to do. What we're trying to fix besides the bike? I wrenched on everything.

A lot of stuff would be like other kids would have toys. like, let's say a little battery-operated tank model that kind of went on its own. But something was screwed up on it. And I would find myself, and then go, it doesn't work. And I'd go, oh, give it to me. Give it to me. And then I would take it. I'd also find stuff when we did garbage picking.

You know, I'd find toys. There were a fair amount of toys and things that people would throw away. Where would you put garbage? Where? Oh, that's the neighborhood. Just go through the, like they'd roll them to the, there wasn't. rolling garbage cans to the street in those days. They sort of outside of the house.

They drag them to the street. Oh, there was street. Okay. Oh, yeah. It was just the cans, but it was on the street. Yeah, we would go trash picking on a Thursday night. Like the, you know, the garbage truck would come early Friday morning or whatever that was, and we'd go out trash picking. It was sanctioned, by the way, by the adults. It's not like we snuck off and did it.

They would come with us sometimes. What were they looking for? Anything. You'd walk the neighborhood. You'd see what was hanging out of the, you know, what they're thrown away. It wasn't like all coffee grounds and eggshells. There'd be a lot of some clothes, some furniture sometimes, some toys. Did that come back to your house?

Well, the toys I get. But would furniture come back to your house? Yeah. All of my mom's furniture was stuff. From the trash? Stuff that people dragged out front. of their house basically going, hey, losers, it's free. Oh, oh.

They just set it up there, yeah. They'd go, this is our old sofa. Yeah. We don't want it anymore. We don't take it to the dump and pay whatever. We don't have a pickup truck. Yeah. Well, we'll drag it to the curb and then if you're big enough loser, you can take it.

And my mom would bite on that loser lure. And then she would bring it home. And she wouldn't clean it. really or anything. She would stuff sheets. She would upholster it with sheets. Wow. So their sofa were other people's sofas with sheets.

Would she replace, like, was it an upgrade? Would she replace old ones with new old ones? Nobody in my family, my mom and my dad included, ever bought a piece of furniture ever. They just had stuff that was sort of given

to them through time. You know, sort of passed down. That's your grandma's old sofa. And so when it came time for you to, to move out, this was other people's furniture you guys would use? When I moved out? Yeah.

Okay, let's do this. I'll break it down. But we'll do that right after this. Yes. I was always playing a game. What was the name of that family you'd go play football with on the weekends? Oh, as long as it was football season,

the Gallagher's. No, no. Oh, you're talking about the Boyd family. Boyd. I would sleep over at everyone's house that I could. And because they had food and color TVs and stuff. People have air conditioning. Food, air.

I'd go sleep by the vent. Yeah, yeah. Coming out of the wall. I've done that. But I would spend as much time as I could at other people's houses. By the way, mostly in the dad's garages. I needed a garage. They had tools.

Everybody, not everyone. Many of the people I knew had a dad who had a garage full of tools. And I would spend quite a bit of time in their garage with their tools working on my bike or whatever stuff. I didn't have tools. I never had a garage. Somehow we somehow missed a garage. We had small houses in the valley. None of them had garages.

My mom's house was pre-garage. They had places you put horses or something. They wouldn't have a garage. My grandparents' house, they had a house that was 500 square feet. They, like, converted the garage. Well, there was a weird concede in some of the construction in Southern California. You don't need a garage. There's no snow.

There's no... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So when I moved out, first apartment, we had... See if I can break this down. I got for my birthday before I moved out, I think knowing I was going to move out, a weird futon chair that was sort of off-brand, not very wide. You sat on it.

It was really uncomfortable because you were down on the ground. And then you could fold it over and sleep on it, like just a mattress on the ground. So I got like a futon chair. Donnie had all kinds of stuff because his parents had all kinds of stuff. So he had a sofa. He had a coffee table. He had like a little entertainment, you know, we could put a TV and a stereo. We stole a banquet booth, as you know, my blown out knee story from the Blah Block Cafe in Ventura,

and then wedged it into the kitchen. And then I built the table. I built the table. And the bedroom just had his futon. But it was like a double futon. And we just slept on the floor, on the futon. In the same bedroom. On the same bed.

Yeah, same futon. And then I don't recall ever having a dresser or anything of that nature. You live with a stripper girlfriend for a minute. Yeah. How long after that was that? That was, I went from, That apartment to a very small house on the other side of Laurel Canyon where we rented a little house. No garage either, by the way.

From there, up to Joyce Laffer's house rented a room in a house up in the hills of her daughter went off to college. And I just rented the room she lived in. It was a nicest 60s house. I think it's just important for millennials to hear these stories. You guys had it so easy. Well, no one will say, no one, no one says that to me, but, okay, I went from Laurel Canyon apartment across to no air conditioning house, no air conditioning in miniature, up to Joyce Laffer's house, rented the room, to a home. that Donnie's mom was selling. She was a realtor, but it was a nice place in Studio City, and like three or four of us moved into it.

And we were there for like four or five months, but then she sold the house. So then we had to get out of that house, got out of that house, moved in to my girlfriends, stripper girlfriends, Bachelor, zero bedroom flat, just one room, kitchen, bathroom, and one. Okay, what do they call that a... What do they call them bachelors? Okay. No bedroom house. Apartment on Franklin in Hollywood.

Went from there to kind of townhousey, kind of one bedroom with a loft, one bathroom, one bedroom loft townhouse in North Hollywood. Went from there to rent-controlled apartment in Santa Monica. was a little shady, like my theater director lived there with his girlfriend, and they were moving out. And it was like, it's rent control. Right. But he was like going to just let me move in. Yes. But I had to meet with the landlord.

The landlord was sort of like, what's happening? Well, he's just going to slide over there and I'm going to kind of. But I went from there. That's where the famous purse snatching incident occurred. That was a purse snatching incident. Then I went from there to rented house and Lacrosenta. Did the stripper girlfriend kick you out? Is that what happened with that one?

Yeah. After she punched you? No. That was not connected. That was connected to a softball game. Okay. I got drunk. But she didn't come home.

You were annoying. Yes, yes. I got kicked out. I got a roommate. Always had roommates. And I had to get another roommate in Santa Monica. I went from Santa Monica to Locke and Yada. Oh, sorry, La Crescenta rented ranch house with Ralph and Cortland, and their roommate moved out.

I moved into the La Cagena place. And then from there, I built the gym in Pasadena. That's where I met Jimmy. And then from there, I went into apartment in Toluca Lakeish, not nicer part of town with just me and Cortland. after that house got sold. We all had to move out. And from that point on, from the Toluca Lake apartment house, started Love Line and paid off my tax bill or whatever I had.

And from their first home bought in Hollywood Hills. So I had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. I guess I lived in nine rental forms of places. across how many, 10 years or so, 12 years? Yeah, it would be over 10 years and just kind of moving around. It's exhausting. Collecting my bed. Whatever furniture, I cobbled.

I also, I was, I was, I understand too, I worked at always better closets. Yeah. And I built myself like a stand rack thing for my stuff, you know, like I'm, I, I, I, I, I would build myself. I was a cabinet maker. I would build myself like a chest of drawers, you know? Yeah, yeah. When I moved into my house in La Cresenta, I built a big mount for the TV and the VCR and that just mounted to the wall.

Like I did a lot. I would build myself a loft if I had a little room, put the desk under the loft, you know. Like I did a lot of building related stuff. Upgrades. A lot of upgrades. Yeah. Always paid my rent. Always kind of prioritized paying rent.

I sometimes didn't have car insurance and stuff like that. But I was pretty keen to pay my rent. Makes sense. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I was. Andrew wants to know how much a month. I will say this.

And I think we worked it out once. I'm pretty sure my first apartment, my one bedroom with the futon share, was about, I think it was like 475, maybe 435. I can't remember. It's like in the mid-fours per month. Possible like 385 or something like that. I'm pretty sure it was like four and change a month. It was split in half.

My end of it was, you know, 235 a month. I was making $8 or $9 an hour on a construction site. I was bringing home. Taxes were being taken out. I was bringing home about 240 a week. And so a week basically paid for my half of the apartment. But again, that's two dudes living in the same bedroom. So you want to do that.

Yeah, we didn't have enough money to do it any other way. Now, you know, people are making $30 an hour now. I saw a revenue making $60,000. years. I couldn't believe it. Who? Residence. Oh,

medical residents. Medical residents. Wow. I mean, people. You make 14 or 16. Well, okay. But what I'm saying is it's gone up, the rent has kind of gone up commensurate with the money. Like, people make a lot, they complain a lot about this.

But if you want to find, I don't know, a two bedroom in North Hollywood. And again, this is not luxury living. This is a six-unit building. No men at. no pool, no, you know, spa, no, just coin-op laundry room in the back. And we're on Laurel Canyon. Just pretty small-time apartment living, building from the 40s, no, you know, whatever, no central air.

You know, I guess now you could find a place that was equivalent to my place. Find that place for 1,700,700 bucks a month. And then you and your buddy have to go in on it, it's a one-bedroom. And you're both going to have to come up with, you know, $850.50 rent every month. But if you got a job where you're making $25 an hour, then you can do it. But again, you have to sleep on a futon with a dude. I mean, later, a third person moved in. In that very apartment?

Yeah. Chris moved in. And he slept on the sofa. Wow. And me and Donnie slept on the floor. Now we got three dudes in there. And then later on... You pull it up rents?

That's what he's posting. Yeah. Later on, Chris moved out. That's where Umgad Abu Zam Zam moved in. Is he still doing those commercials? Car commercials and stuff? He's not doing... Well, he's not...

He's a fabricator, extraordinary. there, but they don't need fabrication anymore. Ooh. It's all CGI, whatever. Is he, I'm sure there must be other work. Yeah, he built, you know, when you go to those super high-end Vegas steakhouses, and they have the three-story wine rack with automated, whatever that brings the bottles down from the top, whether, guess who builds us?

I have a Zab-Zam. Because he's a fucking fabricator. Wow. Interesting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So looking at 21. what, $100 a month.

Those are kind of nice. Well, yeah, that's the problem. I told you, I lived in an old, there you go, 1725. I live in an old 50s, whatever, with no central air. That's, you know. Is that more like it? Yeah, I lived in one of those apartments, those 50s apartments. But where is this apartment, is the question.

Two. No-ho. Yeah, what, does it say street or whatever? Hesby Street. Hesby. All right. Yeah, that's just North Hollywood. That's, that's off a Laurel Canyon or whatever.

That's where I lived. Yeah, okay, $1,700 bucks. Fine. You got to come up with $8.50. Yeah. It's hardwood floors, kitchen, separate bath. Yeah, that's, I don't know, does it say how many square feet those places are? About $6.50.

Yeah. It's small, you know, who cares? I didn't, by the way, we didn't care. I cared about no air conditioning. Yeah, yeah. That fucked me up. But other than that, these places have air conditioning. But, oh, you get a full-time job working at the IKEA, and you can handle half of this amount.

Yeah. I don't know what you want. I know you want to elect Bernie Sanders to fix it somehow for you, but sorry, brother. That's fucking it. Well, not only that, Bernie Sanders would just make sure everybody else lives like this. Yes. Right? Or I guess.

I mean, he's going to get Elon Moss to pay your rent or something. But I don't know what the, I'm not sure what the plan is, but it's not going to work. You have to fucking work. And then you have to, I did not want to sleep on a futon with a dude. I would have liked to have my own room. Right. And I also didn't want a third dude in that apartment either. But I had three dudes in a one bedroom.

And I wanted to eat out and I wanted something. I wanted to go shop at Gelson's instead of at Lucky's, but I did not have money. But this started with the idea of fairness. Yes. Do you think the women at the time were living like this? Some must have. Everybody just got by. They just worked, man.

They just got a job and they worked the job. and they didn't really talk much about work-life balance or anything. They didn't have any balance. You had to work. And by the way, everyone's, the default setting was your job kind of sucked, you know, but you had to do it. So you did it. And that was that.

And that was just baked into life. We didn't know any other way. No gruntledness. No boggling. I wasn't anything except for reality on reality's terms. Your family has no money. And even if they did, they would never give you a penny ever. I knew they would do nothing for me ever was what I knew.

I knew when I was 10, I was like these people will, they're not going to lift a fucking finger for you ever. So you better go figure it out. And I did. They just survived. spent the first part surviving. And then at some point, I was like, should we just survive our whole lives? Or is there some sort of thrive mode we could see about getting into

where you could have a garage and own tools and have a car to work on and maybe a race car? Could we start thinking about dare we dream about something like that? And that was the second part where it was like, Now it's time to start thinking about doing something you want to do versus, you know, what you have to do. Yes. All right. Tonight, Las Vegas, I will be thriving over at Kimball's Club, two shows, Saturday two shows.

Huntington Beach, Sea Lakes at the beach, and go check that out on the 25th. That's a fun outdoor event. Go to Adam Crolla.com for all the live shows. You've got to get Chef Gruel to show up for you. Oh, yeah. What do you got, Drew? At Dr. Drew, follow me on X. So, until next time, I'm Ann.

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