The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2095 - What really happened to Lindsey Graham? | Part 1

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Adam and Dr. Drew kick things off by discussing the recent passing of Lindsay Graham, with Dr. Drew explaining what really caused his death and reacting to Dr. Oz's demonstration of the heart... condition behind it. Adam also reflects on a classic John Denver lyric, and the two take a nostalgic trip through the world of Dr. Demento and the novelty songs that defined an era.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got the board certified physician. Diction medicine specialist. Woo. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:00:25 So lots of aorta talk. Aorta talk for us today. You ready for that? I want to make some points and make some things clear to people and raise some controversies perhaps. Now, is that a Lindsey Graham thing? It's a Lindsay Graham thing. Lindsay Graham died suddenly of an aortic dissection.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I don't want to bore people too much with this, but people are getting very confused about aortic aneurism versus aortic dissection. What's the difference? Aortic aneurysm is a ballooning of the artery, an expanding. of the artery. The dissection is an unpredictable. We do not now, you know yet how to predict, a injury in the lining of the aortic artery that allows blood to flow into a, essentially, can I show you a video real quick that really demonstrates it perfectly? I'm going to let you describe it because I don't know how to describe people to let them know what this is, but here's Dr. Oz.
Starting point is 00:01:28 He's being interviewed. Where is this? The CNN or something. ABC. news. And he does a perfect job of showing what an aortic dissection is because he's a thoracic surgeon. He would have to operate on these things. So here he's going to hold up a roll of paper towels to show how this works. All right. So go ahead. Would he have seen this coming? Unlikely. One of the things with aortic dissection, I brought a simple model that demonstrated is you don't have much warning. And the real cautionary tale is keep your blood pressure low because that is the one risk factor that seems to be recurrent. And the second is, if you're have the worst pain you have ever had, you should go see a doctor. Unfortunately, with aortic
Starting point is 00:02:04 dissection, even then, it's sometimes too late. About 30% of people die within the first day, more than half are dead within two days. So even if you call immediately. So that's the first point, which is that this is a devastating thing, and we cannot predict it. Cat Timp's father died of this. And what happens if you don't get there fast, as the thing, you're going to see how it sort of dissects, It clips off arteries to the brain, clips off arteries to the kidney, and can even sort of tear and dump into the lining between the heart and the heart sac, called the paracardium, and it literally squishes the heart so it can't move any blood forward. What is Dr. Oz's official title at the White House? Head of CMS, which is Medicare, Medicaid. Okay, that's a son.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He was, before his television career, was the chairman of the department. of cardiothorastic surgery at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital. One of the highest, highest, highest positions you can hold. Yeah, but he's not trans. So how does that help? I miss Admiral Levine. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do.
Starting point is 00:03:17 He or she could explain. She could explain this super clearly in her dress. She is not a physician as far as I know. Oh, but yeah, but not. Yeah, but he's not trans. So we're even, bro. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:32 So here's a description. It's super important to have trans people explaining. And you're going to have to jump and describe what he's doing here. Okay, here we go. Unfortunately, with aortic dissection, even then, it's sometimes too late. About 30% of people die within the first day, more than half are dead within two days. So even if you call immediately and he did apparently, by the time you get to the patient and get them to a doctor and they need a heart surgeon like me, ultimately to fix the problem. You just don't have enough time.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And here's why. This is from your makeup room, so I appreciate the prop. A paper towel, and you have a tube on the inside of the paper towel, and that's where the blood would normally course through your body. Now, imagine the heart is where my chest is, and the blood is moving forward. If the blood pressure is high or there's hardening of the arteries, which happens with age, you'll actually tear this tube. You can sort of see it tear like that,
Starting point is 00:04:20 and as it tears, the blood, instead of being in the middle of the tube, goes into the side of the tube. There's no room to go there. So it starts to rip through these layers of the tube, until ultimately there's no blood going where it's supposed to go. So you shut off the blood to the heart, to the brain, to the kidneys, to many parts of the body. That's it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah, I think he's kind of describing it. It's a paper towel. It's got the cardboard in the middle and the paper towel around the outside. But if the cardboard hardens or rips or rips or there's too much pressure, you know, which causes the fissure, it then starts pushing outside of that tube and into the paper towels and not into the heart. And the tube sort of closes so the blood can't move forward. Right. Because it goes around it and starts swelling it and pushing it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Exactly. And so this is what happens. Now here's the thing about aortic dissection I want you to know. Jessica Rose is on this this morning. She's a very fine scientist and I sort of put her on the scent and she was like, holy shit. In my career, again, General Internist, not a thoracicist. surgeon, I had seen two aortic dissections.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Uh-huh. I've seen at least a dozen since 2022. Oh, so like Vax-related. How dare you? You're a fucking conspiracy theory. Are you serious with those numbers? So you think through your observations, it's up quite a bit. And then Jessica Rose went to the Vair's data and showed there was almost
Starting point is 00:05:58 never detected and now it's up like a thousandfold in terms of what's reported in the VAR. Now, VAR is very unpredictable. Andrew, did you have an experience with this? Andrew had an experience. Robert, Breck? Who is it? Yeah, my really good friend, Breck Denny, died in January of 2022, 34 years old. I'm going to read this random, rare, spontaneous, spleenic artery rupture.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Okay, okay, which is extremely rare. It's a vascular catastrophe that can happen from a little tear in the aorta or in the splenic artery. You know, we should talk to Rudy who does the news because Rudy had a friend that had, I believe something was very close to this. Got the Vax, healthy guy, young guy went off and just sort of died and sleep of something of this nature. Do you have young people have this kind of thing? unheard of in my career. Unheard of. This is the result of long-term, like uncontrolled blood pressure or some anomaly from birth
Starting point is 00:07:10 that they didn't know about an aneurysm there or something. But I've never seen it under 50s. So this was a groundling performer friend of yours, and he was 34. And look, here's the thing about all things COVID. It only goes one direction. Fauci only goes one direction, it's bad. Lab leak origin shit only goes one direction, it's bad. All of the tech companies suppressing this and doing that, that only goes one direction.
Starting point is 00:07:40 All the adverse effects for school close downs, that only goes one direction. All the bullshit between the teachers unions and the governor and the mayor, that only goes, it all only goes one direction, which is bad. and like ivermectin and all that good right right but bad although too much no as far as their theme goes yeah all the only direction their theme goes is them being wrong wrong or or like like oh sorry or lying negligent and you know criminally negligent and things like that okay so it stands the reason the vaccine would simply follow the same trajectories everyone's Everyone who took it's going to be going to rue the day they did it. And here's what drives me out of my effing mind.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yes. You're not allowed. We know the spike protein damages the lining of arteries. I've also seen very strange coronary artery anatomy and disease and progression. This is something that, oh, shoot, I'm blanking on his name, that British cardiologist that is very big in Maha has been, his dad died of it suddenly after the vaccine. He's been complaining about this. Well, let me just say, this is not the problem. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It could all be COVID. It doesn't have to be the vaccine. Or it could be both. Or it could be either. I don't know. But you're not allowed to effing ask the question because there is a possibility that the vaccine could be implicated. A seem malhotra. Do you?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Thank you. Remember when we were not letting professional tennis players into this country because they weren't vaccinated? Yeah. Remember when everyone was going nuts on Brett Farr? because he wasn't vaccinated, like young, healthy, strong athletes. Oh, God, we're such a piece of shit. And you assholes didn't learn anything from this. I have not heard one step back.
Starting point is 00:09:37 By the way, Adam, I am totally prepared to accept the following. It is possible that all this aortic injury is exclusively COVID, and the vaccine makes it actually better, possibly protects against some of that. I'm prepared to accept that. Yeah. But let's effing look into it, for God's sakes. Not interested. There's no money in them looking into it, and then they could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I don't know what we do about this, because it's not, this is the other thing I want people to understand. There's all this crazy shit going on it. You should get a coronary calcium score, which you should. And it's a reminder we should check our hearts, yes, but your heart has nothing to do with this or very little. And you can't predict a dissection. You can't. You'll pick up an aortic. I actually have an Ascent aortic aneurysm.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I have one. And I'm having a coronary calcium score in two weeks. It's my follow-up, and my aneurysm has been stable. I'm on blood pressure meds, et cetera, et cetera. Possibly statins make this all better. It's possible. I've been dutifully taking my statin since COVID because I'm concerned about all this. Do you take you statin?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, for high blood pressure? No, no, statin. Oh, no, I don't take statins. I might want to think about that. What's statin going to do for you? For the cholesterol, if you have heart disease, which I do, my last coronary calcium score was a little high. I have high cholesterol, but I have the good. All HDL.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I have the good high cholesterol, not the bad, but I don't. But anyway, that's what I'm fine. Well, you don't want to screw with that. Well, no, you were given it. I, bah, papa, pa. I just was handed an injectable cholesterol medicine. Yeah, yeah. That's because that guy, that I went to a heart specialist, and he was like, you should do this.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It's good. but you don't, it was kind of a, you don't really need it, but you should do this because you're old and do it anyway. Or he really liked this shit. I like that shit too. He told me, you have high cholesterol, but you have the good, no, no. Sorry, he did like a genetic study. Oh, he broke it all down. Yeah, he broke it all down.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And he said it's high, but you have the high good kind, not the high bad kind genetically or something. They can kind of break down things even further. Well, I'll have to show it. or something. But he said, yeah. Anyway, I like that medicine too, but it's hard to get people. I was thinking about going on that. But anyway, the statin, which people argue.
Starting point is 00:12:01 By the way, he's the doctor who, a very interesting guy, heart specialist guy. I didn't go to him because I had a problem. Somebody sent me to him. We have hypertension, and that's, he needs to review that. He, oh, yeah, my blood pressure is down. Good. A lot. But hypertension is the ease the main risk factor for this dissection.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Right, but that's not, I don't think that's why I went to him. I just went to him. I was sort of a surrogens. Oh, you said go to him. Oh, okay. All right, yeah. So I got, well, I don't know, I got, I haven't checked my blood pressure in a week or something, but it's been down. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So I went to this guy. This guy said he was working on checking the heart health of the, uh, They were doing those Olympic games where they're the steroid Olympics. Oh, yes. But they let everyone take steroids and see how it changed it. And then that's a beauty of me. I'm sitting in his office. And they go the freestyle swimmer just beat the 100 meter freestyle, just beat the record by four seconds.
Starting point is 00:13:09 That's a point four. No, I just checked that thing. I think it was four seconds. I got, no, he didn't beat by four seconds. I suppose Why not? Because that's too much Point for
Starting point is 00:13:23 You went Let me check They got the thing checked out He got the thing checked out He said Yeah it is point For I go okay
Starting point is 00:13:29 How do you know everything Well you just know everything You can know everything And not have any information If you fucking know If you know how shit works That's it If you know how shit works
Starting point is 00:13:41 You can have a doctor Who's monitoring The Swimmers' heart Tell you He broke the record by four seconds and you can sit on the other side of his computer and go, I don't think it's right. But isn't that interesting? So in my world, we call that clinical judgment, right? You should be able to kind of suss out what you're dealing with, right? You should know what you're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You need to know, you know what helps a lot in life? Distances and times. You're exceptional. That's tough. If you beat the record by four seconds and the 100-yard freestyle, that basically means you beat it by 55 feet or maybe 70 feet. And it's like you, now I'm picturing the guy in the pool. By the way, the guy in second place holds the world's record. And 100 meters up and back? Yeah, you didn't beat him by, beating by half a second is not bad. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You know what I mean? But anyway. All right. Is he finding much heart disease in these guys? Because they all dropped dead. I mean, we didn't really get into the outcomes, or maybe it was just getting started. You want to worry about something, you know, all this testosterone replacement and stuff. There's always been a worry that it's going to affect the lining of arteries.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And maybe that's what's, maybe so much testosterone's out there that that's driving up the dissection. That's a thing. Yeah, that's a thing. I mean, I don't know what, you know, if it's a Lindsey Graham thing. But, hey, Chuck, I have had a weird flashback. there was a song, maybe a popular song, I can't tell, from the early 70s. Because, you know, when you're a kid, you don't know, is something popular or is like your mom just playing it on the record player and you think it's popular, but it's not the record player. The record player.
Starting point is 00:15:28 There was a... Do you know what a record player? Do you know what he's talking about? Okay, good. Chuck, ask me what kind of record player I have. What kind of record? A black one. Did it fold into a suitcase?
Starting point is 00:15:42 I asked Chuck what kind of mountain bike he had, and he said an orange one. That's good. That's a good way to go through life. Ask me what kind of dog I have. What kind of dog? A gray one. Okay. Clarity now?
Starting point is 00:16:00 You picturing the dog? Beautiful. All right. There was a song from the 70s, early 70s. I don't think it was a. country song, but it may have been like a novelty country song where the guy sung, you hurt my aorta. Now, just put in 70 song lyrics, hurt my aorta or something like that.
Starting point is 00:16:28 He was basically saying, you broke my heart. Yeah, the closest thing I ever heard was Harry Niel said, you're breaking my heart, you're something apart. So fuck you. The song they're thinking of is, you don't. Stump, you done stomped my heart, also known as you done Stombed. Denver. It was written by Mason Williams, famously performed by John Denver.
Starting point is 00:16:51 You done stomp my heart and you smashed that sucker flat. You just sort of stomped on my aorta. Man, they had a command of lyrics in the 70s. Can we hear any of that song? All right, we need take a break. I mean, is that from 73, 72 or something? And what John Denver album was it on? 1969.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Okay. So my, all right. So here's what I'm saying. My mom probably got that album in 72 or something. I mean, it was from 69. And whatever, we were just playing it. and that song would come on because I don't know if that one made it to the radio.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I don't think I've ever heard it, but I will, let's listen. But by the way. But it could be me. You've never heard of any ever. I've seen that album. Hmm. I told you you said that is so good. I called you my darling.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I thought I always would. Hold on. Chuck, ask me what album I've been listening to. What album? A yellow one. Keep going. But now you've gone and left me. I don't know what to do. So my little darling,
Starting point is 00:18:29 I write these words to you. And stomp on my heart. And you mash that sucker flakorta. Was this the version of your bummed? There's no other aorta. songs in there. Also, the heart specialist had this pumping into his office, too,
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Starting point is 00:21:04 So it's interesting to me that if I were, it's 1972, I'm listening to that. I would have been like 14 or 15 or something like that. And I would have immediately dismissed it as another country song. I would not have listened to the lyrics. Would not have listened. And you, at that age, heard all the lyrics and yeah well I took note
Starting point is 00:21:27 that it's the only song ever heard with the word aorta in it although when I was eight I didn't know what a aorta was but I may have asked and I may have found out that it was a part of the heart or valve I still don't exactly know what it is
Starting point is 00:21:44 did you have to yell through the bathroom door to get your mom no no by the way not my mom I would have asked somebody else I knew enough not to talk You don't want to talk to your mom. Just to kind of flush out the scene, who would you have asked at that age? Trying to think who spoke. I mean, if you went to Ray or Chris.
Starting point is 00:22:06 No, look, there's a possibility. I could have said, what is aorta? Is that a valve? There's an aortic valve, but the order is the big main artery out of the heart. Okay, so. That's what dissect. Let's give my mom some credit. I could have knocked on her bedroom door.
Starting point is 00:22:25 interrupted her yelling, freak out, and said, Not open the door, but what is an aorta, like the song? And she said, it's part of your heart, or heart, it's your heart. Or something that we could have, I think she could have, even she could have managed that probably on a good day, but there wouldn't have been much past it. The biarrhythms must have been. The wheel, the wheel, the wheel, the wheel, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You couldn't ask Chris Ray. You couldn't ask any of your screwball friends, because you wouldn't know if you got a reliable answer, right? No, I mean, we wouldn't ask a teacher. We were eight years old. I mean, that album came out in 69. My mom probably got it a couple years later, or maybe she had. It's not like...
Starting point is 00:23:03 It's not like she would go out and get it hot off the presses. She'd buy it in a used record store or something. It's possible. I mean, my mom did have a couple of records. That was... I remember records being expensive in that... Well, they were. I mean, things...
Starting point is 00:23:24 were, they weren't expensive, I mean, I guess it'd be like this. If, if, well, let's put it this way. If minimum wage was a buck 69 or two bucks an hour, that was minimum wage, I mean, you kind of
Starting point is 00:23:40 have to kind of chart it off a gallon of gas or minimum wage or like things like that. But it, it would have been the equivalent to like five or six bucks, you know, it would have been. My recollection was like, 599.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah, yeah. And it very quickly went up to 1299. Yeah, well, CDs went up to that at some point. No, I remember, I think when I bought Led Zeppelin's last album, it was 1299. So that would have been like 70. One el? Not a double album. Couldn't swear.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Now, in 75, I don't think they're up at 12. Okay. Andrew can look it up. All right. But here's no point. It might have been two. I just remember that aorta line. Also, I remember it was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:24:26 You know what I mean? Like, I thought it was... It was supposed to be a joke, but he's taking it kind of seriously. What do you tell me? In the Wikipedia, he had up that... And put it on the screen. It said it was a comedic song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But I think John Bennett was taking it kind of seriously. No, no. You do a comedic song seriously. Yeah, okay. Like spinal tab. Okay. But here's my point. I, as an eight-year-old, took note that it was
Starting point is 00:24:54 funny. Yeah. And then I also remembered the strange name, aorta, in the song. And I may have found out what a aorta was. I'm sure I didn't know. And Ray and Chris didn't know because everyone was eight. And so it then stuck in my brain and I've never brought it up again. Were you already?
Starting point is 00:25:16 I was, I woke up in the middle of the night. Record price 1299 were most prominent during the late 80s. through the 90s. So I was off by 10 years. Stop talking, Drew. Nobody wants to listen to you. What was it in 76? In through the outdoor, it was 75.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I remember that first studio. All right. Anyways, but I woke up the night thinking about something you said, and I'll bring it back in a second. But I'm wondering if at age 8 you were already interested in the specificity of language. Yes. I'm sure I was. That's odd. Most people don't do that.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I don't mean odd bad. I mean odd good. Yeah, yeah. And I know that you do that to this day. And I have no fucking idea why this came to me in the middle of the night. But I remembered all of a sudden, it must have been some Instagram post I saw or something, you describing oral sex on Loveline one time. And some woman was complaining about performing.
Starting point is 00:26:24 providing oral sex to a man and you go, what are you complaining about? It's like sucking on a chiro or something. If you're a man providing oral sex to women, it's like burying your face in an abalone. Oh. It was like where, and you did it without slowing down. Like where did you come up with abalone? It was such a perfect metaphor. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Well, there was a John Denver song from 72 called, I ate your abalone. You never heard that one? I've not heard that one either, but that's maybe where you got it. Yeah, you crushed my aorta. I heard that when I was eight, and then I've never heard that song ever again. But it somehow got stuck in my brain that there was an aorta in there. And then lately with all your aortic talk, it popped out again. In your mind.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to say I'd never thought about it again. I'm saying I never brought it up again and never looked it up. I didn't know it was a John Denver song. I knew it was a kind of funky. By the way, that song doesn't sound like a John Denver song. That's why I didn't think it was a joke because Rocky Mountain High and all that kind of stuff. You know, it's not, that is a un-John Denver song.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It sounds like just another from that era, another country song from that era. Also, you have to search and kind of piece things together. Like, I used to listen to a lot of Dr. Demento. I was thinking the same thing. So was that on Dr. Demento? But I also had this feeling that it kind of predated it. Like I remember hearing that before I'd been listening to Dr. Demento. God, I was listening to Demento by 72, 73.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Now, should we explain to people what that is? But hold on. You're older than me. So I'm saying I wasn't listening to it when I was eight. I was listening to it when I was 10, maybe. I don't know. I don't. Uh-oh, Drew.
Starting point is 00:28:21 here comes another embarrassing timeline for you. Uh-oh. I don't think Dr. Demento was on the air here in 72. Let me think. That's where he's getting to trouble. Yeah. So hold on. I've got to, I've got a specific.
Starting point is 00:28:35 What year did Dr. Demento first hit? Don't tell me, but look it up. First hit in Los Angeles. I would have been 14. So that would be 72. I would say 72. All right. Draws a recollection.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I definitely 70 I am wrong 70 that guy started to 2010 wow that is a run that's crazy
Starting point is 00:29:02 yeah so Dr. Demento was Sunday night appointment listening 10 o'clock right was where weird owl started blah blah blah yeah it essentially was
Starting point is 00:29:12 either old odd records from like the 20s right yeah weird like what was that there was a
Starting point is 00:29:20 He'd have weird stuff, weird, well, I don't know about 20s, but like 40s or something. Like, I brought my organ to the party, but nobody asked me to play. You know, weird. I was considered naughty talk like back in the 40s, you know. She loves my big 10-inch record of the band to play is the blues. Oh, that's true. But, you know, Aerosmith has a great, that's one oferosmith's greatest songs. Do you know that?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Andrew? Do you know Erosmith's greatest? It's the best Erasmus song which is I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:02 what you're talking about for me. She loves my big 10-inch record. It's a great it's a great sound I don't know if we can play it. We're getting to trouble.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We probably can't play it. I'm not, do you know what album it's off of? It's off of rocks or something like their first album or whatever. Another another sort of stealing of content from classic old African-American literature.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Maybe toys in the attic or something. Sorry, go ahead. I'm just saying it's another example of rock stealing from African-American music. Yeah, who originally did big 10-inch record of my favorite blues? Double entendre song, popular. Toys in the attic. Jeez, I'm good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I didn't know. But by the way, asked me if I ever had that out. Moose Jackson in 1952. Never had that album. You know, it's weird. I remember I shit on albums that I never had. I don't know how you do that. I don't care enough about it.
Starting point is 00:31:01 You shouldn't marvel at how I do all this stuff, Drew. You should marvel at how I was a D-Minus student in high school junior high and labeled a dope essentially through my scholastic career. That's not a marvel. That makes me pissed. Yeah. That's L.A. Unified. Get angry, man.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. But it's also a great example. example of how not all, and people are talking about this much more these days, not all intellect is in the classroom. There's different ways of measuring and expressing intellect. Mine was at Dr. Demento's radio. Chuck, for instance, is for sort of a clarifying descriptions of things he owns like his mountain bike. He's clairvoyant in terms of his descriptions. Yeah, oh man, I close my eyes. I see Chuck's mountain bike in my head, man. Dogs, he can describe dogs with vivid clarity. See it all. David, clarity.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It's all. That three cats. All right. So, four cats. So, yeah, Dr. Demento. So big 10 inches. It's kind of a funny song. It's a double entendre the whole time.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah. And then at the very end, he just, he'll suck on my big 10 inch. And that's like, well, you don't really do that with record. He's pulling out his 10 inch. record of the band that played the blues the band to play and that one was on Aerosmiths for Big Ten now I'm going to make a what I'm going to make a prediction are you ready I'm ready Andrew you're going to have to find this out big big moose Johnson or big bull moose Johnson or whoever originally sung that thing right
Starting point is 00:32:43 was named Johnson are you doing that I think maybe I'm just doing that. I think it was Jackson. Whatever it is. I didn't really, I only saw it for a second. I hope it was Johnson. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Here's my prediction, Andrew. Jackson, there we go. You're ready? Yeah. Bull Moose Jackson. Man, I wonder if he's still alive. Ooh, look him up. I'm making a joke.
Starting point is 00:33:02 He died in 1971. Are you kidding me, Drew? I don't know. All right. By the way, here's the thing about blues singers. The guy either never saw his 45th birthday or he's 117 today. There is no middle of the blue. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:16 You either fucking die in your 40s or you make it to 128. Yeah, yeah. That's what I know. Yeah. All right. What year did Bull Moose Jackson die? Okay. Here's my prediction.
Starting point is 00:33:30 My prediction is in the original song, he didn't say suck on my Big Ten inch. No, I don't remember that at all. If they did, they didn't play it on the radio. I never heard his version of it. I only heard the Aerosmith version. You didn't hear the Demento version? No. Oh, it was on for years he played that one.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'd have to hear it. I'd have to hear it. There were Barapico and Sepulveda? I remember all that, fish heads, all that. And he also would play this weird sort of 20s or 30s band with a lot of whipp and porns and stuff. Horns. Like honk, onk, like a clownboard. I think Stephen Tyler added the sucker of a big 10-inch part.
Starting point is 00:34:12 For sure. Well, I wouldn't, I don't remember the first version, but I know. Now I think about it, Bull Moose wouldn't have yelled that. Can we play it? Without getting dinged by whomever? Maybe the Bull Moose version. Yeah, that's not saying. The Bull Moose version.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Version. It's actually a good, it's a good blues song. It's a good, the, the Aerosmith version of that song swings. Like, it's a good, fun song. Yeah. And it's funny that they did it. But here's the weird part. It wasn't that long after, it was only 20 years after he did it.
Starting point is 00:34:46 If you think about it. Yeah. By today's standards, be like going way back to 2006. That's crazy. That those, you talk about distances, you know, the distance from when Demento hit the airways and the songs he was playing from the 20s. I don't, I'm just saying 20s. I don't think it's from the 20s. I think it's like more 30s.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I agree with you, but I'm saying the songs from the 20s were closer than we are now, 20s. hit the airways in the 70s. Yes, that's crazy. Which is crazy. All right, quick break. Right back with Bull Moose Jackson right after this. Right now, North America is the center of the soccer universe. Hosting the biggest sporting event in the world. Forty-eight nations competing for world status, and our stars and stripes are off to a great start in their group stage matches. And bet online has you covered with all the updated odds, player props and contests for the whole tournament. In between games, be sure to visit the casino and poker rooms for more
Starting point is 00:35:47 Vegas style action. Enjoy the freedom of online gaming at bed online where the action moves with you and every moment is yours. Bed on at bed online. All right. I'm guessing Bull Moose, a big dude. I don't know. I mean, maybe it was the big 10 inch and got him
Starting point is 00:36:03 the thing. So you understand. Maybe she actually did love just so all the young people are listening. It's a records used to be 10 inch, 12 inch, whatever. And so he whipping out his big 10 inch was was but by the way people had a sense of humor back then too you know what I mean they like to fuck around yes um double entendre was a thing it was a way of doing comedy we'll play five
Starting point is 00:36:33 seconds of it and cut it out we're just going to test it real quick okay bull moose this is no this is the suck of my big 10 inch no no no I want to hear the bull moose I'll play the bull moose we have got both Hold on a sec. Yeah, okay. Sorry. Yeah, I want to hear the Bull Moose one. The other one I know. But Erasmus has some good songs.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It's not so much the ones they play on the radio, but the ones they don't play on the radio. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It's interesting. My whole life's interesting in that. I like everyone's songs that aren't played on the radio, but I never get to hear that one. This is it.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. Believe me, this chick's no sense. It's a good song, right? her going when I take out my big 10 inch record of the band that plays the blues. The band that plays the blues. She just loved my big 10 inch record of her favorite blues. Right? What year is this?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Early 50s? 52, I think it said. Oh, sorry, I didn't say 52. Okay. Yeah. So she loves this big 10 inch. I like to hear a little more of it. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:37:43 of it. I tried to tease her. I gave her a little pinch. But she said, now stop that jiving. And get out that big 10 inch. Record of the band that plays a blue. Well,
Starting point is 00:38:13 she just loved my big 10 inch. Record of her favorite blues. I cover her with kisses. When we're in a love with clinch. And when she gets all excited. She bears on my big tennis I don't remember hearing that played in a blue Well, the band that plays the blues
Starting point is 00:38:37 She just loved that big tini's Regular of our favorite blues All right I don't remember hearing that one on Dr. Demento You're saying he played it on a loop I got Pico and Sepulveda, I got fish heads I got pico and sepholvada for me No, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Listen, I know the regular songs. I want these guys to hear the shit we used to listen to. That one is a little weird. Yeah, that's worthless. Yeah. That was, I, I labeled a lot of his stuff sort of worthless, even when I was eight or ten. But he'd have a top ten every night, every Sunday. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And this showed up on the top ten for a long time. Maybe before you started listening. Maybe. Because I was done by like 75, 76. Well, maybe that's when I joined. Yeah. And they were done better. I remember tuning in later and hearing, oh, it's just different stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:30 The way my mind works is if I heard Erasmith's version of this and I'd heard Big Moose Jackson's, I would have immediately went, oh, that's a big moot. I would have connected the chair. No, you didn't hear it. I get that. I didn't hear it. So. Bull Moose, sorry, Jackson. I am 89.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That's a good run. 70 years? 70? Not bad. Born in Cleveland, Ohio. Died in Cleveland, Ohio. I love, there's nothing better in a fucking sense of humor. And also, God, there's like, I love a, I love a renegade. I love people.
Starting point is 00:40:23 People used to do shit, you know what I mean? Yeah. I was watching. watching, speaking of stuff, musicians. Yeah. I was watching a special on YouTube last night on Graham Parsons, who was a, I don't know, sort of brought country and brought it into pop and, or sorry, rock and country and whatever, kind of a legendary guy, ended up dying at 26, O-D, of course.
Starting point is 00:40:54 But here's the whole point. He died in Joshua Tree. He used to love Joshua Tree and hang out Joshua Tree. A lot of musicians up there. Yeah, and he loved it. Okay, in the 60s. Yeah. He came from an estate that was worth millions in Florida.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And then, like, a crappy stepdad showed up. Mom died very early of alcoholism. And dad killed him. and blah, blah, blah. There was lots of, white people had a lot of trauma back then, too, you know. So then evil, evil stepdad wanted his body returned to New Orleans, where the stepdad was. Only he was mama's dad, dad was dead. Grand Parsons body.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yes. Okay. He wanted that body. No, big moose Johnson. No, I'm just, I want to clarify. Yes, Grand Parsons' body returned. Sorry. Two, or not returned, but just brought to New Orleans where he was.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Because if he got the body and buried it there, then he'd get the inheritance or something, right? So he's this bad dude who wanted it brought there. And he had stated Graham Parsons on more than one occasion, but not ever written down, that he wanted to be buried at Joshua Tree. and he had no connection to New Orleans. He was a Georgia, Florida guy, and then got out of there and sort of made California's home. And back when people came to California and made it their home who were legal, and then, and then I loved Joshua Tree and wanted to be buried there. So he said to a couple of people. So then they were taking his body on a plane.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It was a pretty famous guy back then. a highly regarded musician in the Hall of Fame of this and that. Anyway, they were taking his body on an airplane back to New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And his manager and another dude, Phil Kaufman. Phil Kaufman was his manager. And I tried to look him up on the internet was shitty last night. But him and another dude, his manager and another dude,
Starting point is 00:43:20 or like he wanted to be buried at burning, I mean, Joshua Tree. So they went to the airport where his body was in a coffin, like at the airline, made up some bullshit story, had some like fake paperwork
Starting point is 00:43:38 and got the coffin away. Wow. And took it. Still alive? Yeah. 91. Road manager. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Wait a seat. What's that saying? Mangler? Roadman Mangler. That's the name of his book. Road Mangler. Oh, Road Mangler Deluxe.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Right. Wild Ride. Yeah, what was he? Was he a producer? Was it manager? Still a lot. That dude... Record producer.
Starting point is 00:44:07 That dude went to the airport, got the coffin with his buddy, took it to Joshua Tree, set it in the desert, like went, you know, off the road a mile, put gasoline on it and burnt it in the desert. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Back when dudes used to do shit, like guys weren't pussies back then, you know? Then somebody noticed the smoke and whatever. They fire department or whoever, the authority showed up and it wasn't fully burned. So they had to take the now half burnt body to New Orleans and he is buried in New Orleans, even though he doesn't want to, didn't want to be in New Orleans. So the steps, his dad could get the money. Also, it's a case in point of why cremation requires those incredibly high potency flames. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 But God bless this guy. So was that, what is, so, oh, there's a movie? Grand Theft Parsons. Oh, there's a movie. Wow. Oh, wow. Where's this movie? when was this movie
Starting point is 00:45:19 it's crazy I mean it seems like a good Is it a foreign film? It has like a No it's domestic 2003 Johnny Knoxville plays Phil Kaufman Oh my God Really?
Starting point is 00:45:30 Crazy Let me look for a clip Wow Anyway All I'm saying is Is dudes used to do shit Yeah Christina Applegates
Starting point is 00:45:40 In this dudes would fucking do shit Back then Christina Applegate By the way Is such She doesn't get credit for how good of an actress she is. I remember when she was in a television show as a young adolescent, I think it was called City Lights. Help me with that. City Lights or something.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Oh, he's working on something else. I don't know when he gets there. And Susan and I were sitting there were just like, oh my God, this kid, this child, this girl, like she could act. And then Christine Apple, I had no idea who she was, but I remember thinking that all the way back that years ago. Also, dudes did stuff. Yep. Like,
Starting point is 00:46:21 you know all the Red Baron was when he died? After he shot down 80 enemy plans? 26. Yeah. Mid-20s. Yeah. At 25,
Starting point is 00:46:32 he'd already shot down 50 plans. People, guys used to fucking do stuff. When they were young, especially, I was watching another thing. Jackie Ix is a race car driver. I'm going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Here's the coolest thing in the world. Are you ready? Okay. They used to do in LaMont. They made a... Let's see, what do you got here? Heart of the city, that's it. Heart of the city.
Starting point is 00:46:59 All right, Jackie Ix is 24. Maybe he's 26. No, I think he's 24. He's a race car driver.

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