The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2095 - What really happened to Lindsey Graham? | Part 2

Episode Date: July 18, 2026

Adam and Dr. Drew react to the trailer for the 2003 film Grand Theft Parsons before diving into why critics' scores and audience ratings are often worlds apart. They also discuss young people's growing reliance on government, and Adam explains why comedy remains one of the few professions where talent matters more than age or appearance.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So in our last show, we were telling me we would, I was sort of intrigued at the man. going and getting Grand Parsons body from the airport and bearing it in the lightning on fire and Joshua Tree, which was interesting to me because that was his wishes, according to the manager. And then I just liked that people, dudes did shit back then. Yeah. And people did shit. Yeah. And also that would be impossible.

That's probably most of history. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, yeah. Most until now. Now nobody does anything. but also it'd be impossible to do that in California today. Right. You could never go to the airport and bullshit somebody and get up a casket and fucking go.

You need, everything would need to be in triplicate. You need to have a court appointed something. You could never. You know how many, you know, I don't know if you've experienced this, but I deal with a notary like seven times a year now. And it's just like, notary's coming over. I'm like, what's what's a notary? Everything needs to be notarized.

Now, everything. It used to be once, you'd buy a house, and if you bought a house, you had to deal with a notary. Now it's nonstop notary. And people don't understand lawyers and regulation and grinding everything to a fucking halt, which is insane. Well, whatever. You know what I want to say, all right, let's play the clip from the movie starring Johnny Knoxville and Christina Applegate that we, never heard of, about the manager of Graham Parsons going to steal his body. We play the clips.

Graham Parsons, the standard bearer of the new country music movement, is dead. Graham Parsons was the best friend I ever had, and the greatest musician I ever saw. He made a pact that whoever died first, the other would come out here and set a spirit free. A long time, no seat. Don't try and schmuse me, Kaufman, you repellent slimeball. What's the hell of she?

Graham's ex-girlfriend. He placed the manager. I'm here to fulfill Graham's wishes. What do you think he placed a corpse? Do you know what this is? It's not a will in the moment. It's a sign promise from Graham to leave me all of his things. I'd like to hire your car.

Me, Bernice. Give me the keys. Oh no, she doesn't go anywhere without me. Who that is? Who is that? I'm here to pick up a coffin. And here's your deceased. Good luck with her.

Yep, that's a she. The body was stolen. It's supposed to be a funeral in New Orleans. I've got to find my son. No, what's his name? I was distracted. Of course you were. Afternoon, gentlemen.

So what are you up to? It's best you don't know. What are you doing? I'm just taking some stiff down to neurology. We don't have a neurology. the car. They have stolen my boyfriend's corpse and they're going to perform a ritual with his body. Come on.

It'd be less roll. All right. It looks really good. I watch it. Wait a minute. Who just, who plays a sidekick? Who is that guy? He was in, uh, uh, uh, we'll read the cast.

Michael something. He, he's a big actor now. He's a, Michael Shannon. Yeah. Michael. Oh, that's Michael. I knew it's facial hair. Yeah.

Couldn't get. It's so young in this. It's so hard to pick it out. Strangely, Knoxville looks exactly the same. Oh, Michael Shannon has the retarded politics guy. He's the guy's got like Trump derangeance. No, it does he. All right.

Here's the thing I wanted to talk about. By the way, this is sort of 50% audience. And here's the thing. If you go to Rotten Tomatoes and the popcorn meters, 50% and the critics are 50%, more to 50% movie. Critics have it a 48, people have it at 53. This probably ain't a great watch because the people would have it higher. That's how you kind of get this one.

There's not that many movies that are straight. I shouldn't say that. If you see a consensus on Rotten Tomatoes, that's what you got. If there's some movie. that Angel Studios puts out about a person that blows the lid off the abortion clinics, harvesting of organs for fetus tissue, fetal tissue. That'll be the 2% with the critics, but it'll be 99 with the people. And now you're going to have to figure it out, but you'll probably go, I guess the people like it,

so I'll see it, but it will be at 3% with the critics because they're all a bunch of woke pussies. But if you see the same number straight across the board, that's about what that. That's about what that is. Do you ever see, I don't think I ever really see congruence of the high, high ranking with the critic? There must be something that people like and the critics like. Oh, yeah. There's plenty of those. Critics like it.

People don't like it. No, there, you, no, you take something like Toy Story or something. You know what I mean? You're going to critics love toy story. People love toys. By the way, Jurassic Park, 91 and 91. Missy Sam, Neil. There are plenty of those, and it's all the movies.

The Blockbusters. Sort of. No, because it's not the Blockbusters. It's not Armageddon. It's not that. Those are Blockbusters, but the critics, you know. But no, it's the ETs, the toy stories, the godfathers, jaws, you know what I mean? There are plenty of examples.

And they are block. Some of them are blockbusters, but other big action blockbusters, not so much. Got it. So, but yeah, there's a lot of that. But the theme, the ones you have to watch out for are the themed ones, if there's something about a white person doing something good or something, something like that. You know, and then the worst are going to be like your moonlights, which are sort of boring, shitty movies, but it's a black gay guy.

So now we're in the 90s with the critics, but the people won't have it, have it that high. Oh. Yeah. Young. By the way, young Washington, 60% by the critics, that's them holding their nose going. They have to admit. I guess it was okay. You know what I mean?

They didn't want to give it 60%. I tried to find that recently. Where is it? 92% with the people, which is... Andrew, where do you watch it? It's on Netflix or probably Amazon, I guess, then. See it in a theater. I know, but I was looking for it on my streams.

I think it streams also. So let me give you a thought here, Drew. Okay. As I listen to Democratic Socialists talking about everything all the time. this thing, this constant outsourcing, you know, this we're going to bring down prices, we're going to get some groceries in your foot to you, we're going to make child health care, child support. Outsourcing to government.

Just just a blanketed, nonstop river of outsourcing. And then with a some specific outsource, Young Washington exclusively. in theaters now. Okay. Some of it is a promised sort of a, some of it is free child care, free health care, you know, rent control, blah, blah, you know, free buses. Free everything that living expense. Free living expenses. And also, uh, supermarkets and schools and stuff like that. Okay. Some of it is that. The other is just a kind of vague promise of we're going to take control and then we're going to give you a helping hand and you'll get out of whatever you're getting. to and we're going to lift you up and we're going to give you a fair shot at the free you know whatever

and I'm like I truly really don't know what it means like I sit around and I go okay they don't know what it means either but what I'm saying to you is is Chuck is a young guy across the booth Chuck can do whatever he wants or not I don't I was the same position I was in when I was a young dude I could work or I could not work I could I could languish or I could flourish I I But what could the government? I don't know, I don't I don't I never thought I had no thoughts about them being involved with this whatsoever I mean now there is a version where you know they fill the potholes and they don't tax you to death and they sort of you know make make some a society

that's safe and clean and you can go, you know, there's a, there's a version. Yeah, there's like a version of this. Low inflation. Yeah, yeah, there's a version of that, but I had no thoughts about what they would do. It's a nonstop vague promise of, you know, how they're going to help everyone and how this is going to work. And I just have no idea who's listening or what the plan is or how they would think that. But also, the general mindset. of the outsourcing of everything is horrible.

Well, there's nobody that deploys capital in a worse, less efficient manner than government. Right. So what do we want, tear? And also, what makes you think any of that's ever going to make it down to you? Well, let's think about it. So during the COVID thing, Biden handed out a lot of cash a couple times. And PPP is another thing. Some people continue to get income.

Yes. And what happened? I don't know. I've got... 9% inflation. Right. 9% inflation, for one thing. Right, right.

And secondly, people went out and bought luxury items. Yeah. And nobody used it to build or sustain or... No, no, no. You can't get people fucking money. But here, it's all a shit show. But what I'm saying is, is there is a group... Let's put it to you this way.

Who is the group that sort of buys the rhetoric... of doing something for me the most. Black women. Black women would be the group that would vote Democrat. It's in the 90 percentile. Like, they're the last people left. So they basically have thoughts about who's going to do something for me. They are statistically as far down the totem polls you can possibly get.

So they are doing the worst and believe the most people can do something. The government can do something. I don't know the group that thinks of it the least could be Asian, could be Jews, could be Indian, could be Nigerian, you know. But there's a group. The groups that go, I don't know, look, the government is not going to do fucking anything for me except for getting away. I can tell. And my greatest lesson I got from my parents was nobody's going to do anything. So whatever you want, you better go do it. Well, you also saw your parents get to, your mom at least, get disabled by government assistance. Yeah. I saw my mom get disabled by government assistance

and the assistance of living in a piece of shit house rent free. Also understood about what it, I understand when you give someone a free house to live in, and you don't require that they pay any rent, that's why my house was a shitbox. It was a mess. It was an eyesore and a mess because my mom didn't deserve to live in it and she wasn't going to take care of it

because she couldn't. She didn't have the ability. She didn't have the tools. Well, she didn't have the wherewithal to take care of it, you know. So it's all a shit show. I'm just wondering who this audience is and also, much like the black women

do you have any expiration date on your expectations this thing ever your ship ever coming in or is it just simply a perpetual grift where i mean is it is it is it is it is it just a a i'm a confused by though black women work a lot yeah and they work hard and they don't seem to be they're not resentful by because of that they work And they also work more than who, you think? I don't know more than. So we have to look that up. But every African-American woman I know works hard, has a job, even the ones that are down down the ladder a bit.

So I don't know. I don't get what that is. Which one is? I mean, why they think something's going to happen? Yeah. What would that look like? What would that? It's essentially like you're being.

catfish for 50 years. And you've never met this person. And you keep thinking you're going on a date this weekend. And it never happened. When it didn't happen with Obama, it's a certain point. Anyway, they keep preaching it, which is super dangerous

and holds the groups back. It makes people, by the way, you want people in a perpetual state of agitation, catfish them for 50 years. You know what I mean? There's a constant state of agitation. You know, they just can't. Fuck, it never happens. whatever this thing is, it just never happened.

You never come through. The government never comes through. While black women are not the largest absolute group of employed workers in America, as white Americans make the largest share of the overall population, black women consistently record the highest labor force participation rates among all women. So then Dr. Drew is right. what why do you guys you guys work why do you think the government's going to help you now a lot of them work for the government oh they're at they're at lax yeah and well no they're in the county

they're they're so you're right they work for the government yeah that oh now that makes sense yeah i wonder uh i wonder my grandmother works a lot of black women at the VA you never said anything kind of you know it's kind of funny my grandmother loved gay people oh yeah I didn't see her with black people She liked collecting kudos You know like she would go By whom she acquainted herself with Yeah she'd go she'd go

My grandmother did like this is 1980 You know my grandma go My friend Lionel's going to be joining us at the party He's gay Like okay I'll suck his dick at the door How about that? Fucking shut up By the way Lionel was an asshole

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That's Harry. He was also an asshole, right? Lionel was such a prick. He, like, showed up my house once with my grandmother, and he came up and started yelling at people to move their car. He couldn't park, you know, in my house, in my driveway. Like, he was a pretentious prick. But the whole point is, is my grandmother worked with Lionel, who was a pretentious prick,

and also loved Harry Hay, who was another gay guy who was also a prick. And I hate, they're both assholes. I mean, overt assholes at the party. You know, they're like stuffy gays or something. Stuffy gays. But my grandmother, my grandmother loved them. She didn't love them. She thought she was scoring points by them being.

gay. Of course. Just like assholes around here, like literally, what's your name, does a podcast with my ex-wife. She'll tell you about a transitioning kid every 15 minutes. It's like, first off, who gives a fuck? But secondly, are you just trying to score points? Like every celebrity does that with my, I got nine kids and 11 of them are transitioning. And like, nobody asked about your fucking kids, sexual proclivities, but you bring it up every 10 minutes.

Why are you doing that? And that's the new version. Gay is worn off. My grandmother scored points with her gay friends. Now everyone's gay and no one gives a fuck. So you have to move on. And the transitioning is the moving on part, see? But don't worry, all roads lead to narcissism.

Yes, you're better than we are because you're more open-minded. So my grandmother was better because she was open about that. Right. Not because she did anything for anybody ever, but just because she was open, she had gay friends. She had Lionel. It was a dick. It is, although at the same time, this show and the last show are making me very longing for the early 80s in a strange way. I don't know what it is.

And even the 70s look a little bit more blissful to me than they, than they used to, simplerly, simpler. Yeah. Because, like you said, men did stuff, people dated, people hooked up. It was just, I don't want to call it simpler because it wasn't. It was just when people's motivation was not clouded by a bunch of BS. Yeah. Andrew, is this my little screen correct, or do you need to modify that?

All right. What else you think about that, do you feel that way too? Well, I was thinking about Christina Applake at the last show, and I was thinking she sort of reminded me the 80s. By the way, it also, I have some leftover thoughts from that show. Married and Children, 1987. Oh, wow. So three years later, after the heart of the city show. So probably one of the nice women I know, too.

I mean, and I feel. Christine Apocke. Yeah, and her MS has been a bad, not all MS is bad like she's got. Oh, really? Yeah. And I know that. Yeah, I feel awful. I mean, I knew she had MS.

I remember her mom at breast cancer. She was dealing with a lot on the medical front. And it's not fun. The other thing that I was thinking about, how much black music and black comedy, how much is owed to them for rock and roll? And the rock stars, I don't think, ever thought about it. You know, female guitar is black female. female guitarist and black, sort of the blues rock. Well, no, no, hold on.

The English bands thought about it a lot. They did. Yes. But once they came here, they stopped talking about it. The Beatles never talked about it publicly, right? I don't know. I know that the Led Zeppelins of the world and those kinds of the Rolling Stones of the world. They knew where it came from.

I don't think most... Listen to a lot of it and talked about it a lot, too. because to them it was there was a lot of intellectual they're real musicians amongst the British players and they knew their history they knew where it was coming from I don't think Americans even understood what they were playing half the time and they certainly didn't give any kind of a the kind of homage

or at least I don't know I don't think I wasn't aware of it when I was a kid when those guys Yeah I but I'm trying to think how much talking a lot of those guys did Fair enough, but I just don't think. They all would say Little Richard and guys like that. They definitely would say it. But by the way, I don't know, you know, first off, what's enough of an homage.

You know what I mean? You say it, you mention it, but you don't cut them in on the profits or anything. Right. You keep your money. That's right. So then what do we? Do you know the security? I mean, you want land acknowledgments now?

Yeah. Because that's what that is. No, to be fair, I just feel. like the history needs to be thought about. But you know, the drummer from Little Ritchie was the security guard in the box there at K. Rock. The guy that invented the beat that Little Ritchie was so known for. Was Little Richard, rather. Yeah. In the box at Kro? What do you talking about? The security Oh, which K-Rock? The one in Culver City. Oh, really? Yeah. The guy working the gate? Yeah, the gate, exactly. I didn't know that. Yeah. Striker figured.

that out and brought him in on the radio. Oh, really? Yeah. Was he black? Yeah. And he told the whole story how Little Ritchie took him to a Little Richard. Little Richard, I'm sorry. Took him to the train station and said, listen to the beat of that, of that cars and that engine.

I want that for the music. Little Richard, it's funny, he got himself sort of mired in a look and an affect and everything else that sort of overshadowed. what his contributions were musically. Back to the future tried to bring it up a little bit, right? Yeah. And it didn't really come through, I don't think. Well, I think though now, at least with all the Elvis stuff,

that it's been sort of established that the black man was ripped off sonically. But I bring it up to ask you about comedy and black comedy. Because I watch an Amazon a documentary called When Jews Were Funny. And it was about Jews in the early 20th century who essentially kind of invented musical comedy and invented stand-up comedy, not invented, but there he is, Charles O'Connor. I said 86. Yeah, I do remember that face. Yeah, right?

Yeah, what year did he died? Super nice guy. Yeah. 2020? So, 21. All right, sorry, go ahead. What do you think? So it's comedy kind of comes out of the downtrodden and the immigrant, doesn't it?

You know, let's break this down for a second. I'm just curious your thoughts on all this. All right. Let's break it down. It's an adage or a something, an ism that, you know, the comedy was born from all the misery. Yes. But. Or the people that needed to laugh.

If you go to where all the misery is, there's not much comedy. coming out of that, of the misery, truly mid, where there's, first off, least funny people Middle East. That was the most misery and genocide and everything else. Africa, you know, the places that are doing, you know, mass burials and shit like that, like where the real misery is in our world, it's not coming out of that. So what you can say, though, it's the people that thought about getting on a boat or were taken and survived.

to come here. But to come here, that's where they have the ability to sort of be funny or something. Here's what I think we're making. I think we're making a mistake with the motivation of comedy. I think it's a misunderstood thing as I think about it. So you go to the most miserable place in the world and there's, you know, there's no comedy. in those fucking places. All right.

Then you go to the happiest place in the world, which statistically is always Denmark or something, you know, whatever the widest place is. And there's not a lot of comedy coming out of that region either. So there's your two extremes. Right. Interesting. What is the happiest nation?

It's always, it's Denmark's, it's one of these sort of Scandinavian somethings, but it's always one of those places. Yeah. All right. So then you go, All right, Finland. Almost.

I don't even know the difference between Finland and Denmark, but okay. Oh, they're different. I don't know enough to know. Let's show a little map up there. Let's show a map up there. Let's a lap lander. I don't know. Finland is way up.

Iceland, Denmark. Denmark is the little peninsula that sticks up out of Europe, kind of. Finland, Iceland, Denmark. The top three happiest places. Think about all the Icelandic funny men who have graced our stages and all the Denmarkian. Nobody's fine. There's no comedy out of the happy people. There's no comedy out of the honor killing people.

Now, where's the comedy coming from? Comedy. Freedom lovers. No. No. Comedy comes from the people, there's two kinds of comedy. There's a kind of narcissistic comedy. People sit around.

They watch Eddie Murphy when they're a kid, and they watch the sitcoms, and they go, I want to do that. Okay. The same way, they watched a Super Bowl, and they go, I want to be quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Right. Yes. The sports picks them up and shoves them out, right? Mm-hmm. Right.

Chuck. Chuck wanted to be a professional baseball player when he was 10, but it turned out he didn't. He didn't have the goods. Comedy will never throw you out. So you'll get hold. But now, if you were 50 and you're working a job and someone said, what do you want to do? And you said, play center field for the Yankees. People laugh you out of the room.

Right. But if you go, I'm working on stand-up, people leave you alone. Yeah. But it's basically the same thing. Now, Chuck, I'm not saying that's you. what I'm saying is, is comedy never throws you out. It should, but it doesn't. And it never throws out country singers either.

Right. The audiences kind of take care of that, right? They either elevate or... Yeah, but not in a person's head. No, yeah, yeah. Who's working at the whatever who's telling you they're doing stand-up. Yeah. Okay, so there's two kinds of comics.

Just like there's two types of... athletes. You know, when Bo Jackson was 10, he was sitting around watching sports too going, that's what I want to do. Right. Even, and by the way, good comics started there too. Right. Yeah. But

while Chuck and Bo Jackson at age 10 were having dreams of playing professional sports, Chuck got pushed out. But if Chuck but if Chuck and Chris Rock were sitting around at age 10 thinking about being a stand-up

comedian, Chuck would never get pushed out. Okay. See? So there is a version of comedy where it's almost a narcissistic comedy. And again, you're just being used for an example here, Chuck. This is not you. Just somebody named Chuck. When I was sitting around dreaming about comedy, I was right.

Yeah. Because I'm talented at comedy. I had the ability to do it. I meet people all fucking day. They have no business doing comedy. But how do they miss having, it's a narcissism, I guess. It's in their head. Yeah.

No, the narcissism is, is look at Eddie Murphy. That's what I want to do. Or, but it's also, you have to think, I can do that. I'm as good at that or something not, as opposed to, here's my ability. How does it measure up to him? Which is a little more about distances and values again. People are not realistic. Remember the distances and value conversation?

Right. Remember, I don't have high self-esteem or low self-esteem. I have no self-esteem. So I was able to judge my ability. Objectively. Because you have no esteem involved. No self-involved. I showed up to Kevin and Bean getting paid nothing as a boxing coach.

And I immediately thought, I'm funnier than these two. I didn't think that when I met Dennis Miller, but I did when I met Kevin and Bean. And I didn't think they were unfunned. I just went, I have more ability than they have. Did that come? Now, think about this, though. But that's only because I had no investment in myself. But you can't assess yourself when you're in yourself.

Got it. But you thought about it at age 10, but then you went into an environment where you could test that. Acme, groundlings, that stuff. Oh, not even that. I would sit my truck and listen to Mark and Brian on the radio and go, they would ask a question or do a thing, and I would come up with the funnier punchline than them driving my truck. But what about in the training environment?

You're measuring yourself against other funny people? Yes. Because there's another thing I think you learned there, which is being funny is not necessarily and her talent is not enough. Not enough. Yeah. No, I was told, you know, it was not enough. You've always described people that were more talented that just disappeared.

I described people that had more talent in that they could do a lot of accents and dialects. Chargaretors. I never thought they were funnier than I was, but I knew they had more ability in that environment to do the voices or impressions. Impression is just God-given. You can work on it, but you do it or you don't. I didn't. So I knew I didn't. So I knew I had more comedic ability, but I also didn't have the gifts that some of them had

that was going to prevent me from excelling in that department, in that arena. Did you see the interview Bill Maher with Byron Allen recently? It's funny. I saw 30 seconds of it this morning on my phone, but I didn't really get a chance to dig into it. Even the clips are very interesting. I've only seen the clips, I haven't seen the whole interview, but this is that other element that sort of relentlessness and desire and motivation. The Elon Musk factor, which I, again, I often said, I read that Isaacson book and I thought

I was going to read about the smartest guy in the world. I didn't walk away with that. The Elon. Elon Musk biography. I just don't necessarily know sex. Okay. What I walked away with was, holy shit, this is the most relentless human being I've ever heard of it. Oh, yeah. Listen, Byron Allen is, and I've spent a lot of time with Byron Allen,

is not the funniest guy I've met. And he ain't the top 10. But he's the most successful and he's the hardest working. And I think, you know, there is an element. You know, there are really funny guys like Artie Lang naturally. They don't work that hard at it. he's impaired by his drug addiction stuff too yeah yeah but he would no but before I mean guys that look good naturally in their swim trunks don't work out that much they they got it they don't have to right and by the way working out and working on comedy are about the same thing

it's just like a homework you know it's it's a discipline I don't do it as well as I should either What is the discipline? Jerry Seinfeld always talks about it, but I'm not sure I, that's sort of his version. We'll take a quick break. I'll tell you that. Discipline right after this. Hello and welcome to Pluto Fo. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, just stream it for free on Pluto TV.

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All right. So when you have a natural gift, you've heard it a million times. It's the high school coach going. This guy is one of the most gifted athletes of ever coach. I only wish he had. half the discipline of the undersized, slow white kid over there who outworks everybody but doesn't have the natural, you know, it's not a coincidence.

It does, if it's kind of easy, you know, if it comes easily, it's hard to do the homework when it comes easily, you know what I mean? But if you want to get to an elite level, it has to be both. You know, I have to be the athlete and put the time in. and when you are the athlete and you put the time in, then you end up with Michael Jordan. That's the time and the athleticists. Right.

So where's the funny come from? It doesn't come from the happiest places in the world, doesn't come from the saddest places in the world. So where does it come from? Again, two kinds. Narcissistic comedy. I'm sitting home watching Raw, and that's what I want to do,

except for I don't really have any business doing it because I don't have the ability to do it. Right? There's tons of those people. And then there are people that literally it's in them like there's people who love working with animals. They love working. They end up being veterinarians or working on a horse farm or something like that.

And you go, why? And they go, ever since there were a kid. Ever since. Now, there's tons of women. I used to say this to you all the time. every nine-year-old girl on the planet announces she's going to be a veterinarian because she wants to help animals and work with horses, they all drop out as soon as their first chemistry class comes along.

They go, well, fuck this. I'm getting laid and having a good time. So it starts with that, and then the work kicks in. So the work kicks out, like a lot of the narcissists. But I think it's in you, like, who are the curious? people. I don't know. I know, sadly,

most people I know are not curious at all. But then the curious people are super curious. They're curious about everything. Why? And then how do we get people to be? I've never gotten anyone

to be curious about anything. Good fucking luck. Good luck deal. Go get that person who's not curious. Go get them curious. Though it's never fucking worked one time.

Also, So building, the wrencher gene, the renter gene, powerful, powerful, the building gene, mechanical. I agree with you, but are you equating that with the comedy motivation? Yes. Okay. I don't get that. Well, you're saying equate. I'm saying it's the renter gene and the builder gene, like the horsey gene. No. No, not all comedians are into horses. No, no, no, no. I'm just trying to understand the builder part, how it does. into the comedy.

It's a gene. It's its own thing. It does not dovetail. I'm not, I'm saying there's a horse gene. Got it. There's a comedy gene. Builder gene.

There's a, there's a fucking builder gene. Got it. Come on, Drew. Be retarded. There's not a fucking comedian world. Those jack shit. Watch.

What's the difference between an alternator and a generator on an automobile, Chuck? I don't know jack shit is Chuck's answer. All right. Alternates and one generals. All right. It's basically that. it's not. So here's the whole point.

The whole point is there, since there's no comedian alive who knows how to build anything or knows anything about anything outside of comedy, then that's not obviously what I'm alluding to. What I'm alluding to is if you have a builder gene, you got a builder gene, man, and these fucking guys are deep into it. And I have a builder gene. And I'm doing a project right now, and I'm thinking about it like all the fucking time. And I have a builder gene and a car gene. It's the same gene. It's a mechanical gene.

All right. And I have a comedy gene. And we don't recognize the gene part. It's there. Now, women who grow up wanting to be with animals, animal lover, men and women. I'm an animal lover. I got it. That's who you are.

you know, and there's people that just want to work with kids, they want to be around kids, you know, and then there's everything. There's inventors, you know what I mean? But people don't realize comedy's the exact same thing. It's the gene. You have the comedy gene, except for there's a bunch of poser narcissists

who don't have the gene, who don't know they don't have the gene. So the gene is what makes them good? The gene is what makes them reliance. relentless. And it makes them constantly be doing it. It also means they're doing it on their own in their own time, like constantly, you know, for free. Because see, here's the whole thing. When you have the gene for anything, you do it for free. Yeah, yeah. That's interesting. And it's nothing to do with a former misery. Yeah, yeah. Jimmy grew up relatively happy.

He has the gene. I grew up relatively miserable. I have the gene. It was not the misery. he didn't bring it on. Why? Is there a reason, a couple questions. Is there a reason the gene does not express itself amongst the very happy and the very miserable in those extreme environments? What do you mean? Well, we've established. Oh, oh, you mean in the, in the extremes? Yeah. It just doesn't show up. Doesn't show up. Is it go somewhere? Is it a part of the relentless thing to go somewhere with this challenges? Some of it's American. Is it alcoholism or something? It could be like that kind of English, you know, maybe. Wildling, you know, that whole thing. You know, that whole of Northern England, Scotland kind of Scotch, Irish stuff?

Because those guys, there's a lot of those guys. Yeah, no, there's, there, there is. I don't know. Those guys all came in through the Carolinas. Is there any sort of geography in this country? I don't know what the cradle of comedy is. It's fairly American. It's definitely kind of white.

It wasn't New England. No. Not funny. Not to begin with. Oh, not to begin with. I don't... It's interesting. I know it's a gene.

The gene is in you. Okay, one more thing. And it's not in everyone. I hear you. And it's the same as anything else. I hear you. And by the way, I do want to say this. Yeah.

If your kid has like a mechanical gene, a wrencher gene, a builder gene, fucking realize what they are. And don't keep trying to pull the tools out of their hands and shove them into a classroom. They're not going to work there. it's not going to work right I'm a little distracted by something why did you put Miles Davis was rich and went to

Andrew has was rich and went to Juilliard Andrew has the same giant brain you have your phenomenon and it was just basically like I think that's bullshit I've never suffered

my father never suffered I don't intend to suffer that was a rich dentist yeah yeah it's not about suffering but the other thing this not you've not brought this piece up yet

really quickly wanted to well by the way the people just drop it, you know what I mean? Like Rosie O'Donnell and stuff? I don't think she had the gene. Right. That seems to be some offset of pleasing and performing and being a, you know, victim of molestation or something.

But there is one more thing, having spoken to so many comedians over the years, that most of them will describe, like 90 plus percent will describe a moment that they got hooked. Yeah. Now, is that because they were good at it? I don't know. I think they tell those stories. I don't really. They could tell me the moment.

They usually tell me exactly when it happened. I think they like to tell those stories. I really do. Why would they all tell them? I can back to sound. Every fucking artist had to live in their car. They're branding themselves. They're branding themselves.

You didn't fucking live in your car. Yeah. It's David Bowie. Once you have a product, then you make the personality. They're just. branding themselves. This is a narrative. Saul Miles Davis and Bowie talk with this guy.

But the moment that they describe is always very, very different. I don't know. It's like, no, they have a moment. They saw Eddie Murphy Raw when they were 13. But so did everyone else. But there's also, I was in the

classroom and I did something funny. They all laughed. I thought, oh, I can do this or something. I think, I really think they tell those stories. I really do because they all would have done it anyway minus that moment. That's a different issue than was there a moment. Yes, they would have done it anyway minus that moment. Byron Allen said, I want to do that.

And he got in the bus and went over to NBC and started knocking on doors when he was 10. Yes. And then he went to the, he told a story about calling the comedy store. He said, you know, I've seen Johnny Carson decide what I want to do. you're the comedy store, how much are the jokes? I want to go to the comedy store and buy your jokes. Right. Yeah, no, he's relentless.

By the way. And then he went to the comedy store and stood up there. Now he's 65 and he's doing the same thing. Never stops working. Never. I, you know, that's a thing that people... And, sorry. Go ahead.

And you would expect him to be sort of full of... himself sort of thing, which I find him the opposite. Like humble. Well, here's the thing. And no, unassuming and all that. He's very nice. Yeah, very nice. It's interesting.

He, because he does not think of himself as the funniest guy in the room. Correct. He, so that is a kind of a humbling experience because in a sort of a weird way, being a comedian or being a comedic talent. And it's sort of like being a heavyweight boxer and that you go, who's the competition? Could I beat that guy? Am I funnier than that guy?

I mean, you know, there's an element of that. What if you were, you know, a perennial heavyweight, but you never really thought of yourself is the toughest guy in the room or had knockout power? You know what I mean? Yeah. But yet you're constantly a heavyweight and you're getting paid, But you also, what if you could be around, you know, really talented heavyweights and sponsor their fights and things like that?

That would be satisfying, too, right? It would be satisfying. Satifying. Different way. Satisfying. Yeah. I think, yeah, he does not look at himself as a funny guy in the room. No.

So there's a kind of a built-in humbleness there in that you are in a profession where the people in the room may have a higher skill level than you. in this profession. Yep. You make 10 times as much or 10,000 times as much and so and so forth. Look, it's the way to do it. Also, I don't know, some people are just nice. You know, he happens to be nice. Yeah.

Just a nice guy. But there's a humility that I sense that was sort of refreshing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's hard if you think you are the funniest guy in the room to sort of keep that. I had a conversation with him about. your Hollywood Walk of Fame thing.

And I congratulated him for the time slot he got on CBS. And I said, I think this is a really, really good thing. I think you're doing something that's going to work. And he's like, do you think so? Do you really sure? I was like, wow. I was surprised that he felt insecure about it. And I could see how it was going to work.

Very collaborative guy, too, like, which you should be when you're trying to do comedy. But he's very, you can always tell him, The Lano is the same way. They're trying their stuff out and they keep saying to the writer. Is that good or do you want to do it a different way or how should we do this? By the way, finally met him. And that met him before until the last couple weeks ago at Washington, D.C. at the Bill Maher, Mark Twain thing.

Who are you talking about? Leno. I'm sorry. All right. You've never met Lennon? Never met Lennon before that two weeks ago. Wow. And could not be a nicer guy.

Yes. Yeah. 100%. That dude. All right. Tonight, Austin, Texas, Cap City Comedy Club. Two shows. And then tomorrow night, two shows.

Same place. Then going off Saturday, 25th, 100 Beach, Sea Lakes. That is a fun outdoor venue. Fun. Then Sunday. Torrance, mom said, yes, that is a completely different venue, but fun in its own way, honky tongue. Go to Amphcroll.com for all the live shows.

What do you got, Drew? You bet Lona when you were a kid, right? He was wrenching in a garage or something? Was that your story? I was 20. Crazy. Yeah, I did meet him. Same guy.

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