The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2098 - Welcome to Fantasyland! | Part 2

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

Adam asks Dr. Drew why so many people struggle to follow even the simplest directions. They also discuss strange internet ads for a new alcohol-free drink that claims to create an intoxicated... feeling, before examining why politicians so often use grand, mythic language to manipulate people’s emotions.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, got to get on the shows. We're going to mandate you get it on. Dr. Drew's board first circumcision. Drew. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I know we got a Heather McDonald clip that we want to play. that you might be interested in. I am. Hmm. Hmm. Uh-oh. Nick, you may want to change some dates up there. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:42 So here's an interesting point, Drew. It happens to me a lot. We're not going to show this just yet, but we will. But I'm interested. And I want to get your opinion as a doctor as well. Yeah. frequently, most people have difficulty knowing what I'm asking almost all the time. Yes, I've noticed.
Starting point is 00:01:09 You've mentioned it. And it happens this all day, every day. And I don't know why they misinterpret what I'm asking, because I'm usually pretty clear, but they just start going off in some weird direction, you know? Yes. And so it ranges a lot. You know, it'll range a lot. Like the normal exchange for me would be like me talking to my accountant, right?
Starting point is 00:01:41 And he'd go, well, if you cash in that annuity, you'll get $300,000. And then I'll go, so I get the full $300,000. Yes. So I'll just take that $300. I'll put it in my pocket. Yes. So 100%. I get the $300,000. Absolutely. So it's all mine. Put it in the bank. 300,000. Yeah. And what about taxes? Oh, yeah, you got to back out taxes. Yeah. How much is that? That's probably about 125. You probably have 175 left. I'm like, okay, I said five times, five times, but you wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. They won't do it. And, and, and, And so I said to, but I realize it's micro and it's macro. Like, no one ever knows, no one ever knows what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's weird. Now, like when I'll talk to Mike August, I'll go, Mike, I want to do a special. Instead of taping two shows, I'm just going to do one long show, 95 minutes. We'll pare it down to 55. And he'll, at some point he'll go, see, want to do two shows? and I'll go, okay. But I don't know why we're talking. So I said to Andrew, I keep seeing these, and this is where Dr. Drew comes in.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I keep seeing these advertisements for these like cocktail mix, which is like, I don't know, mushroom and whatever. And it's supposed to be, oh, it's like drinking alcohol except for it's not drinking alcohol, you know. And I keep seeing these advertisements. So I liked it. I was like, what is this stuff? I want to ask Dr. Drew about it. I'm sure it doesn't work. But anyway, then Drew, then I was talking to Andrew.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And then Andrew's like, and you can show it. It was like a like tweet. He goes, yeah. He goes, yeah, I'm cutting back myself. But I really like to taste of tequila. So I got a tequila. And I'm like, yeah, I want to know if this stuff works or if it does anything. It probably doesn't.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Then he's like, then he starts going down the road of this tequila and how it tastes like tequila. And I'm like, yeah, but it's just non-alcoholic tequila. And then he goes, yeah. And I go, okay, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is this stuff, you're supposed to have the same sensation as alcohol. I'm not asking you what a Heineken Zero is. I understand the concept of non-alcoholic everything.
Starting point is 00:04:23 They have everything. I'm saying this stuff. So we then drift off in the other thing. So then I say to Nick in the front office, other Nick, I say to him, Nick, you ever try any of these non-alcohol, these things where you catch a buzz and like it's like you make cocktails out of it and you mix powder in? And you're like, you get a buzz, but it's not alcohol. and he goes, ah, man, that stuff's no good. It tastes like, it tastes like shit.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Like the bourbon and stuff, it just, it tastes bad. And then I go, no, no, I, you think I'm, I'm not, what you think I'm asking what non-alcoholic beer is or what non-alcoholic bourbon is again, too? Yeah, they have it, but it's no good. Like, why, why don't you know what I'm, how come no one knows what I'm ever? No one ever knows what I'm asking them. Now, hopefully, and usually there's always someone in the next room who understands what I'm asking. Then they come into the room and they go, no, he's saying this stuff and it's no good. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It doesn't work. That's how it went down. That's not how it went down. How to go down. The conversation went to the tequila that I'm drinking. And as far as I know, there's no neurotropic or any sort of mushroom ingredient. I just said, no, it's just agave. Right, but I'm like, I'm like, I wanted to ask, I'm exploring this thing.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You wanted to talk about what we were talking about in the conversation about 15 seconds prior. Yes, I was talking about what I was talking about. And then you start talking about non-alcoholic tequila. Right, because the conversation shifted. It moved along. So you shifted it. So you wanted to talk about something 20 seconds earlier. And I was already on a new topic.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Okay. You moved to non-alcoholic tequila, but that's, not what I was asking. I was asked about this stuff. I want to know more about what's in this stuff. It's always mushroom or dragons main or something like that.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Lions main. A lions main. Yeah. First of all, if something is causing you to feel intoxicated, it's an intoxicated. It's like what are we doing here? Yeah. I just keep seeing these things pop up and I don't know what I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:48 feeling a stimulant effect, there can be some stimulant things that are sort of in the nicotine, caffeine sort of zone, quickly caffeine, which is sort of a de-repressant. It sort of takes off the brakes on the nervous system. That's why you feel elevated by it. But it is certainly not something that would make you high or intoxicated. Yeah, I don't think it works. I just keep seeing these ads for it. So I wanted to ask somebody what it was. But I... Look at that. They're trying to make This is bad shit. Something's wrong here. Because 40% alcohol,
Starting point is 00:07:23 toxic sugar. Nothing with the alcohol. It's the sugar. Okay. And then zero alcohol, get buzzed. Healthy, no calories.
Starting point is 00:07:33 But anyway, I didn't know, you know, being into addiction medicine, I didn't know if this is something you've heard about or not. No,
Starting point is 00:07:40 it is. I certainly hear the Rishi and the Lionsman and all this kind of stuff. And there are people that claim they feel elevated from it, maybe even elevated
Starting point is 00:07:48 mood, if not elevated focus, much like caffeine. What I find odd about that whole category is we really don't know the long-term effects of these things. So I don't know what to say. I mean, yeah, people do feel something from these things that they're often combined with caffeine, right? So you drink less coffee to get the same buzz, so to speak. But that is not intoxication.
Starting point is 00:08:12 That is not an intoxication. Andrew just wrote me a note that there's something called Micolope Zero, Zero, which is a non-alcoholic. alcoholic style of beer. There's a Heineken Zero, too. All right. So, Heather McDonald, I love her. Yes. I love...
Starting point is 00:08:31 The journalist. The journalist. The journalist, yes. I love her. And I love the fact that all she does is spit out statistics, and nobody wants to hear what she has to say. Right. Because it flies in the face of every retarded theme.
Starting point is 00:08:47 these people have. You'll want to interrupt this interview a few times, I'm sure. But in the course of this interview, she's talking about homelessness. She is absolutely spot on, of course. But she takes it to a different place than I would ever go. And I'm wondering Adam's thoughts on where she ends up. So the first minute is about, you know, with stuff I always talk about. But the second minute is about this other topic.
Starting point is 00:09:12 She's talking to Andrew Claven here, it looks like, to me. Okay. Now, she, by the way, is the one that just spits out stats on Black Lives Matter and Ferguson effect and all that kind of shit. Yes. Happens to be correct about all of it, but none of the... Everyone, everybody on the left who would like to have a quote, unquote, honest conversation about race wants nothing to do with a conversation with Heather McDonald. Right. Okay? I think what else do you need to know?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Right. All right, here we go. But I'm not sure we're going to start here. Do you want to start here? Do you want to go? All right, let's see. What are you asking? Is this a two-minute video?
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's a long video, I think. Yes, this is the clip we showed yesterday. No, I understand. I understand. All right. Okay, here we go. Okay, true. You did not have this phenomenon of these crazy people, and they are drug addicted,
Starting point is 00:10:13 and the combination of mental illness and drug addiction, it's called the mica population, the mentally ill chemical abusers, is absolutely lethal. This is something new, and we have this entire advocacy class who is dedicated to keeping vagrants on the street. I refuse to use the term homeless because that was the biggest marketing coup on the part of advocates was to brand them homeless when the problem has nothing to do with housing. It has everything to do with mental illness, chemical abuse, and social disaffiliation, because these people, frankly, I've spent a lot of time on Skid Row in Los Angeles and Santa Ana in the vagrant territories around City Hall talking to people. They are entitled. They are not
Starting point is 00:11:07 gentle lambs who are out there, you know, braving the elements because they have nowhere to go. to be very blunt, Andrew, they are obnoxious. Yeah. They have the sense. That's, she goes on about that, and that's the part I was wanting to get Adam's opinion. But she's spot on, right? These mentally ill, don't go backwards. Don't go backwards.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And I, and it's something you have sort of said, and I've sort of mined in you a few times, which is the mythology around poor, the mythology around homeless, right? Yes, yes. porn, proud, you know, hardworking. I mean, every time you hear Newsom open his mouth, it's just a mythology. This poor guy outselling food on the side of the road trying to make, trying to feed his family, trying to do the right thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Like they create some sort of Greek gods out of these people. I cannot stress enough about all the poor people I grew up with. They have a few trades. One is they will steal shit almost all the time because they need shit. So they steal stuff. They're not proud and poor. They'll fucking fake back injuries and fake stuff and sue people. They're full of shit.
Starting point is 00:12:37 shit. They will take handouts as much as they can get their hands on, anything but work. What is behind that? What is it, are they not well? Is they're lazy? Is they don't know how to work? I didn't grow up with like, you know, the criminal poor. I just grew up with lazy poor. Okay. They don't, okay. Yeah. They don't like doing things they don't want to do. They're very bad at doing stuff they don't want to do. This is back to the marshmallow experiment. Yes, it starts with homework.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They don't want to do homework. Nobody wants to spend their weekend writing a paper. So they don't. Other people don't want to write that paper, but they write it on Friday night, so they have the rest of the weekend free. You know what I mean? They do.
Starting point is 00:13:34 There are variations on that theme. And there are people that do it Monday morning before they go to school. Right. People that work all weekend. They do nothing they don't want to do. That's number one. They do as little as stuff they don't want to do as humanly possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Okay. That's number one. They do all the stuff they want to do as much as their finances will let them. So if that means drinking beer at noon and smoking two packs a day, that's what they're going to do. Okay. So they do the least. amount they don't want to do and they do the most of what they do want to do, which is drinking, fucking, and smoking.
Starting point is 00:14:14 That's right. Now, there is another, there is another side of this. Now, then there becomes a negative cycle. Yeah. I'll tell you what the negative cycle is. Yeah. The negative cycle is, is their work is unpleasant, hard, and sometimes dirty, and sometimes dangerous.
Starting point is 00:14:35 uncomfortable work. So I, you know, if you said to them, look, all you got to do it, all you got to do is a couple hours a day, you got to do a podcast and some air conditioning, talk to Dr. Drew. They would do that. But that's not what they have to do. They have to go to the fucking box factory with no air conditioning and sweat over a press all fucking day. I remember you used to lecture your buddies how to get out.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You know what I mean? Right. And they started calling you Grandpa Walton, which I think is hysterical. Yeah, eventually they just call me Walt because that's how nicknames work. But yes, so they don't do anything they don't want to do. That is number one. My parents did very little of what they didn't want to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Now, they didn't have a lot of stuff they wanted to do, but they certainly didn't do things they didn't want to do. All those things you do all day, every day, they don't do it. They don't want to do it. Right. So when you pass the poor person's house and the front yard's full of weeds and the paint's chipping off the fascia, that's not about money. That's about not wanting to go mow the lawn and go and go prime the fascia and do all the
Starting point is 00:16:02 things you don't want to do. You know what's interesting. I spoke to a woman yesterday who just got back from a multi-month tour all over Europe and Turkey and things. And she goes, you know, one thing I've noticed is that these people don't like to work. They're into scams. They're always trying to scam something, trying to sell you something, this and that. But they don't seem to, they don't have the same ideas about work that most people in this country do. They would like to get money. And they would like to get money for doing the least amount possible. Now, the, way to, there's a way to do that. There's a, there's a straightforward way to do that, which is literally just take your
Starting point is 00:16:38 wallet off of the chest of drawers and leave with it. You know what I mean? There's that. Literal stealing. There's literally stealing. Then there's another version where you just sort of fake a back injury and sue somebody and whatever. That's, that's another version of what they do.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And then there's a version where they just get a job as like a night watchman and sort of sleep the whole time. You know, like that sort of thing. Their dream job is staying home and getting paid. And so then you're going to start getting into the welfare system and disability and phantom back pains and all that kind of stuff. But really what they don't want to do is things they don't want to do. And they're not good.
Starting point is 00:17:27 They're very bad at it. It's really sad because in addition to it being sort of disabling. You can never build a, you can't work. I mean, you can't develop a sense of contribution. If you, if you say, I'm going to pick you up at 6 a.m. and we're going to go to the, you know, football camp and work out with the team and run wind sprints or something. You go by their house at 6 a.m. They're still in bed.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And then you go, hey, man, I thought we're going to work out with the team. And they go, I'm sick. And then you leave. That's how they work. Yeah. To me, it's deeply disturbing, frankly. And they're not magnanimous, and they don't donate their time. By the way, why would they volunteer to donate their time?
Starting point is 00:18:13 They don't do shit. They do nothing for free. There's nothing they do for free. They wouldn't take a groundlings class if you gave it to them for free because they don't do stuff. You need to pay them to do everything. Have you evolved? your relationship with work? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Because I remember when we first met, you hated anything that was work. I don't like doing it because I have to leave the house, you would say. Yeah. I mean, I didn't like, yes. I mean, it wasn't, you know, when I was on TV or whatever, I didn't, you know, it wasn't such a, such an atrocity. But it was a remnant.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It was a, it felt, because you don't have it now. That is correct. Reminent of that. That is correct. That is correct. There is the mentality that everything is work. Yeah, which is really interesting. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And they are horrific at doing things they don't want to do. Yeah. That's all. And by that, that's why they make shitty parents. Because all, the only difference between being a good parent and a bad parent is how much shit are you going to do that you don't want to do? Right. All right. Hard stuff.
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Starting point is 00:21:16 If you're just, Drew, if you're just sitting around on the sofa reading a book or looking at tweets or something on any given day and somebody just taps you on the shoulder and goes, make me scrambled eggs. Or not, you would go, well, then I prefer not to. I mean, like, for who? For me? No, for me. No, I don't feel like doing that for you.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Or if somebody said, why don't you, they just, you're sitting there reading your tweets and they tap you on the shoulder and go, drive me up the street to the, to the store or to school or to wherever and you go do I have a choice? I go yeah you don't have to do it I'd go okay well then I'm going to finish doing my tweets here now at some point you would factor in who the person is you know what I mean is that a stranger is that your kid is that someone you know but by the way to these people everyone it's just somebody to get stuff off of there's nobody there's nobody they really have a relationship with well they just want you tell these people by the way.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah. If you go to these people, these lazy, fucking undignified poor people who are not salt to the earth and they're not just trying to feed their family.
Starting point is 00:22:38 None of that shit. And you said to, if you said to them, they said, what do you do? And you said, I work a Taco Bell. They'd go,
Starting point is 00:22:47 hey, man, can you get me some burritos? Like, that's all they do. That's all they have is an angle. It's an angle on everything. Free shit. Find some. somebody who's got something, go get it from it. That's it. So to that point, I want to play the
Starting point is 00:23:01 rest of Heather McDonald because she goes even further in what she was saying in this particular zone. So we could complete the rest of that video. We shall cue that up. I love her, by the way. Yeah, she's really good. They're, you know, braving the elements because they have nowhere to go. To be very blunt, Andrew, they are obnoxious. They have a sense of you, I remember talking to some gutter punks as they're called in Hayd Ashbury in San Francisco, these youth that ride the rails up and down the west coast to Panhandle. And one guy who was just so offensive, he said, I said, well, why should I give you money? He said, because you have a dollar and I don't. You know, so therefore, I'm entitled to your daughter, dollar.
Starting point is 00:23:54 These people should not be there. But again, they have been glamorized and sanctified by the advocates who hate capitalism. They want them there as visible symbols of the social injustice in the U.S. because we're too capitalist a society. You know, it's. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Just find me and do some one more time for when he's explaining about the mother who's divorced and everything. They have, they have this thing. This myth. A myth. You know, can I explain what it's akin to? The myth that they have with homelessness and the homeless population is the same myth they have with the American Indian. these were peaceful people who lived in harmony with the land, Drew, don't you know? And then we came in and wrecked it all.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But before that, there were all these tribes and they all lived in harmony and they were one with the land. They have that. They have the myth about Palestine and genocide and these are people just yearning to be free. But instead they're – by the way, it's genocide. You think if Israel wanted to commit genocide on Palestine, they're not capable of it from a military standpoint? I think if they would like to destroy Palestine, they can destroy Palestine. If Israel was Adolf Hitler and Palestine live next door and were Jews, yeah, they'd be gone by this time next week if they wanted to commit genocide. See, I mean, they're committing genocide except for they're not doing anything about it.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You don't think they have the military or the manpower, the technology to waste all these people that they're trying to commit genocide on if they were actually trying to commit genocide on them. Fucking retards. No one knows how to think. That's the problem. Yes, that's what they're doing. They want to commit genocide, but they're not doing it. So how is this working then? And then you don't think they're capable of it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 All right. So it's a fantasy about poor people. It's a fantasy about indigenous people. It's a fantasy about how black people can't get along. You know what it's like growing up being a, you know, it's like being a black person in America, Drew? That's the fantasy. The Indian fantasy. By the way, on the other side, there's the other fantasy.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You know, Christopher Columbus, was a racist who spread disease, you know, and hated the land or whatever. Palestine's a fantasy. It's all, you know, Joe Biden's, he's his health is a fantasy. It's all, it's, Fauci's a fantasy. It's all a fan, the gay and lesbian community and LGBT. BLM, these people wanting to live in dignity, dignity. White supremacy is the biggest problem this country face.
Starting point is 00:27:08 it's all fantasy. It's all fantasy. Sonny Hauston has to talk to her son about what it's like to be a black man living in America. You know, it's all a fantasy. And this is part of that fantasy. Hey, rich people don't pay taxes. Fantasy. It's all a fantasy.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Well, there's fantasy. There's myth and then there's brainwashing. and those are related, overlapping, but not the same thing. And I want to go further, a little bit further, parsing out what Heather was talking about, which is there are different populations on the street. And within the homeless, there's this group of young sociopathic males that are true, that's who she was talking to that wanted her money from her. And the sign for that is they have a specific presentation back.
Starting point is 00:28:07 in their late 30s, they have a backpack and a skateboard. Big skateboard, big long skateboard. That's the sociopaths group. When you go see their tents, just covered with slogans and Tifa and all that stuff. So there's multiple kinds of problematic populations, each of which have to be managed differently. All right. So let's listen one more time to Gavin Newsom, now governor and his fantasy about who this homeless population truly is because he has...
Starting point is 00:28:42 We're going to hear it as him or Burr-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-W. We'll hear it as him. But he has a fantasy about who the homeless are. And yes, Heather's right. We should have never signed off on homeless or unhoused or whatever the shit is. Well, climate, homeless, all the same. Yeah, she's donating her eggs, Drew. She's donating her eggs for $19,000.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I'd like to donate some sperm for $19,000. Could I do that? Wouldn't be bad? Okay, here we go. This notion of like the guys are hardworking, God-fearing family member who've lost his job and now had to take through the streets as total nutter bullshit. Yeah, but what about the picture of real homelessness? Real. Poor mom with two kids with a husband who took off and left her who's sitting there struggling on that minimum wage job.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And all of a sudden now is out in the streets and sidewalks desperately trying to find some help, get a light back. get those kids in the child care. I think that's what happened in Jew. That's the tough thing. Yeah, that's a picture of family homeless system in this country. No, that's a postage stamp. No, the real picture is bigger than the AIDS quilt and those are crazy junkies. Yeah, but no.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah, but no. Yeah, but no. It's going to challenge me. What you're talking about is. All right. He's challenging me, Drew. No, that's the picture. The moms.
Starting point is 00:29:55 They're looking for help. All they want is help. Trying to get those kids in school. Trying to get off the streets, but, you know, they got divorced. So. What are you going to do? You know? All right.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Well, that's his fantasy. He has a fantasy. But I don't know, Nithia Rahman, you know, 15 years later, has it's the same fantasy about these who the homeless are. Or Karen Bass does when she talks about it. I don't know what I. They also, it's interesting to have a fantasy about what's required to maintain a city. Yes, they have lots of fantasies. Doesn't need any upkeep.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Doesn't need anything. Well, listen. Second we get a female black fire chief, we're in the clear, man. That's what we need. That's my fantasy. Is it the sewage system that's blowing or the water mains or everything's just going? But we're just going to let it blow, I guess. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:48 They're fantasy and theme driven. But back to poor people, there's nothing good about them. There's nothing morally, morally. the the rich people I know are much better morally well I would argue that there are people that find their way out of poverty that are morally sound right yeah yeah you don't you don't so these people's here's their policy here's their policy real easy they do very little of what they don't want to do just the marshmallows the bare the bare minimum of what they have to do do. They do as much of what they like to do as they can, even if it's unhealthy or unproductive or
Starting point is 00:31:39 whatever. They don't do anything for free, and that includes, you know, volunteering at the library or whatever. They're not criminals, but if you leave shit out, they'll take it. Right. And in general, they're not magnanimous and they can't really afford to be generous. So they're not generous. But it's not all about dollars and cents. Some of it is just about effort. And they don't make that effort either. And if you were going to solve this problem, it sounds like you would do some
Starting point is 00:32:25 intensive parenting and get delayed gratification in early and often. Yes, yes. And they're bad at delayed gratification. Let me get it. Diet and exercise. Yes. Education. Yeah. And then there's more advanced ones. Now, the blue collar guys, my dudes, my neighborhood dudes, they don't walk to walk, but they don't talk to talk either. They don't sit around and talk about the indigenous people or how, you know, they're not preening like today's, you know, now you get the land acknowledgement, and that's about it, right? But somebody puts the coexist bumper sticker on their Prius and they get on with their life, right?
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, yeah. The blue collar guys. Performative. Yeah, they don't talk about that. And they don't talk about taxing the rich or why doesn't, they just, look, they get along. Then there's the college-educated poor people, and that's what. my family, and when they're college educated and poor, then you get the no effort and the no work and the no money and the rhetoric. And the outrage over the indigenous people, the trail of
Starting point is 00:33:36 tears, and what we did to the black people and how rich people need to pay more. So it's kind of, my family would fall under the heading of lose, lose, and I'm even going to add a third lose, just to cover it in case something else comes up. Let's just go lose. Let's just go lose. Loser, loser, loser. Okay, I'll do three losers because you get the no effort and the no money and the no help and the no lectures. Yeah. Whereas Ray's family and Chris's family, you got the no money and the no help, but you got, but there was, you didn't get the lecture. Right.
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Starting point is 00:34:53 Stream now. Pay never. So there's one other topic I wanted to quickly spin by, which is another Heather McDonald, which is comedian Heather McDonald, whose podcast I was on recently. And we were talking about marriages breaking up. Tom Cigure and his wife have split. And somehow we got a topic of cheating. And I said, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:17 So from Adam, I back me up on whether or not this is true years of talking to people on Loveline, you very good, you get a very distinct sense of how men and women respond differently to the cheating in a heterosexual couple. And that there's an evolutionary biological heritage behind it. But fundamentally the difference is women want to know what was their emotion. contact. Do you love her? And men want to know was their physical contact? Were any planes crossed, as you used to
Starting point is 00:35:55 say it? Is that your understanding? What I say? You one time said we ought to have planes that we can say, there's a plane across the mouth, a plane across the vagina. Oh, did the planes any get crossed? Okay, Drew, you got to slow it down.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Or crossed. People don't think of that as plane. Yeah. I understand. Yeah, the mouth, the vagina, the anus. your ear. And you've said even the okay sign. Even the okay sign. Did anything ever get pierced? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:25 As long as there's no piercings for dudes, we're okay. Right. And for women, that's not nearly as important as you love her. Do you have a connection? You're still seeing her, this kind of stuff. And people were outraged that I said that, which I found odd, that we are that far from our understanding. of human behavior that some of these fundamental motivational states.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And it exists in nature, right? In nature, the female primate is interested in protecting resources and family and position and whatnot. And that is a motivational priority in the biology of the female primate. And in the biology of the male primate is protecting paternity. Right. And before you had fancy things like genetic testing and whatnot, all the only way you could protect paternity was guarding the planes, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah. And no, no, people have none of that. Yeah. I mean, look, everybody gets outraged by sort of biological imperatives and facts. I've just really, I've just really figured that one out. I mean, you can talk, you know, Heather McDonald started talking to a group of black people about statistics and biology and family and you know what percentage of black men what how much you know what percentage of murder are they involved in and stuff like that they would start going out of their minds but she's just
Starting point is 00:37:58 explaining what is you know and and i i i usually find that people get more outraged the nobody gets you know when you make a joke drew if you make a joke that doesn't make sense. Nobody gets outraged. Right. It sort of has to hit home. It's got to, you know, look, I, you know, I can't call Andrew fat because he's not fat, so it doesn't really matter. He doesn't care, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:39 If I said, you get your fat ass out of this office, he'd laugh because he wouldn't care because he's not fat because it's nothing there, you know? So if you make a joke about something and it lands, that usually, and people get the most upset when it lands. And that's how it goes. And when things land, it usually has to ring true, right? Yeah, I don't, I've never, you know, once in a while somebody in the past or, or, my ex or whoever online, you know, would kind of accuse me of being a bad parent. And I would just laugh because like it's like I know what a bad parent is. And just this ain't just does not resemble that.
Starting point is 00:39:30 You had those. Yeah, at all. This isn't anything. I don't get upset. I don't even get defensive. I'm just, I just kind of laugh at off because you guys, you know, because of what I provide and what we do and all that kind of stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah. There's no, I spent two Fridays ago, I spent the entire day at my daughter's new dorm, whatever,
Starting point is 00:39:59 not a dorm, but new house room, putting together furniture and hanging pictures and like, you know, showed up with my cordless drill and my level and my tape measure and literally just spent seven hours on the ground, putting furniture together and pushing stuff up into a loft and building the bed and hanging the I mounted two TV sets in that day. That's all I did for seven hours. And I was nice. You know, she was working alongside of me.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And it was kind of tough when you get old and you're sitting on the floor the whole day. But, and then the following Sunday, her and her friend came out and watched a stand-up show. did and had a good time and hung out like backstage and stuff. And, uh, you know, and then, uh, I'm fixing to go to Pebble Beach with Sunny like I do for the last 10 years every, every year, you know, so it's like I, I know I sound like I'm blowing smoke up my own ass, but you can go, the fucking guy's a douche is a shit parent, you know, I just go, okay, I, I don't care. But you know what? If I remarried and moved to Florida when the kids were nine and, uh, saw him three or four times since then,
Starting point is 00:41:16 but it'd been seven years. Yeah, you said that to me, I might react. You know, I might feel something about it. Do you remember those guys we used to meet in Southern Florida? Remember the driver that was like,
Starting point is 00:41:26 oh, yeah, I'm great my kids. I, you know, I send them stuff around Christmas. Yeah, they're in Pennsylvania. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:31 I haven't seen him in four years. Yeah, yeah, and he meant it. No, I know. That guy also had a boat, I think.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I can't tell you, the percentage of people who picked me up in a car, whose living is to drive a car and they start talking about their boat and then I go, how come I can't afford a boat? Wait a minute, I can't afford a boat but you're picking me up because you're 61
Starting point is 00:41:56 and your job is driving people around. You know what? You got a boat? You know what the difference is? They're in Florida or North Carolina. They're not in California. Yeah, I guess that's what it is. So when you get over the target,
Starting point is 00:42:08 people really get agitated. And when you're talking about a biology, they really get agitated, you know. Which is a shame because all questions can be answered by biology. Well, everything. You know, the most, the most, you know when people really start freaking out? You start talking about biology and race. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:31 They go like, well, these people biologically are not meant to, oh, whoa, whoa, what are you saying? It's like they really start in. Yeah. Well, I mean, the reason, though, is because you can get eugenics very quickly, and that's a scary. That's that. And, Drew, I think your satellite locked up on us a little bit. But you know what? You're frozen, but in an optimal facial position.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Okay, good. Most of the time, most of the time, you're frozen. You know, whenever I'm frozen, my eyes are closed and my mouth is open and I got a double chin. and you're frozen like you're on a book cover. Like if you, if you, if the title of your book was Dr. Drew is disappointed in you, this would be the greatest book cover ever. I wouldn't change the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, this is really good. We usually play a game in the booth called Bad Pause. When we pause a video on someone, they make a shitty looking face. I'm going to laugh back here. It's a good time. Yeah, Drew. I like it.
Starting point is 00:43:37 This, if you were posing for, for a portrait in ye old days. This would be the position you posed in. Yeah, because they didn't smile back then. No, no, you look very regal. You look serious without looking overbearing. Or angry. I don't look angry.
Starting point is 00:44:00 You don't look angry. You look very, you're sort of neutral. Your face is in what I would call a center field before. the ball comes off the bat position. Just kind of on the balls your feet, not sure what direction to move. Should we go elation? Should we go disappointment? Should we go, I don't understand? Should we go knowing nod? Like, there's, your face could go anywhere from here. So, so this is how I approach you, sir, which is like I'm a center fielder. First step back. Your face could go. You could go from elation.
Starting point is 00:44:40 to anguish in this position in less than two seconds. We don't know. We don't know. This is a perfect facial freeze for you. We are using AI to create a book title, book cover right now. Good. Well, let's think of the book title, though. I was thinking about writing a book about how disappointed I am in my peers, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:03 that they get narcissisticity engaged. Dr. Drew is disappointed in you. Yeah. Just disappointed. No, Drew, don't try to do things that are of a clever nature. I've already about that before. You're right, yes, never be clever. I've learned that.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Or go ahead and be clever. But whatever it is you're doing is not what you want to do. I understand exactly what you're saying. All right, ESPN's Monica McNutt says that Caitlin Clark needs accountability and bizarre smear. Hmm. What's this? Well, first off, Drew. My thing about black people being more racist and white people,
Starting point is 00:45:45 don't you feel like the WNBA kind of bodes my point out? Like, it's just a black-dominated league and then a white chick comes in and she dominates and they all turn on the white chick. It's kind of a, I don't know, maybe not. And also that women cannot contain themselves. Yes. You know what I'm saying? bigger story, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:09 That cannot contain themselves. Like, okay, Tiger Woods broke into an all-white sport. And basically people were happy about it because it brought more attention to the sport and more paydays. You know, this is not that. They would like to hurt the person that is bringing more attention and more paydays to them. Which is another thing, which kind of reminds me, Drew, of the, remember the, remember the ogre? Maryland mayor. Hey, that wasn't a hate crime. Those weren't nooses. That guy, that guy hung ropes up on the tree. And he was black. Yeah, well, I'm still calling the FBI and I'm still going to investigate as a hate crime. Right. So are you just being mean now or angry or like, what are you doing? It's done. You know, Caitlin Clark came to the league and everyone got paid. Why do you want to take her out? Yeah. Well, because I'm angry. It's odd. It's what I do.
Starting point is 00:47:07 you know what I'm saying? Yes. Now imagine taking all those women and just spreading them out all over the country and just putting them in charge. What are we going to, how's this going to work? Do we have Drew's AI? Oh, we got, we got AI, Drew. I'm ready. I want to see it.
Starting point is 00:47:28 These guys. Ha, ha, ha. Can I? Listen, I put these guys down in this next room for very valid reasons all day, every day. But let me say this. What they just achieved on the computer, I could not achieve in a 14-year span. When they deliver. If you let me alone with that computer until 2040, I could not achieve what they did in two and a half minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Do you understand that, everybody? Dr. Drew is disappointed in you. That's the name of your book, Drew. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. I'm going to have AI write it for me. Have AI write it for you. Scrub the internet and give me 100 pages on why I'm disappointed in you.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Come on gentlemen, let's do this. Yeah, this perfect, Drew. It's a perfect book. All right. Well, we're not going to get any better than this. Yeah. So I'm going to be in Seattle tonight, Emerald City. It's doing the one show on a Friday, then two on Saturday, then one on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Why shouldn't I work the occasional weekend, Drew? What's wrong with that? Just occasionally, dude. That's all right. And by the way, remember, no Carolla has ever worked a weekend, ever. Till this one. Well, getting back to the poor person thing, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah, you're not, you're not noble. You're fucking lazy. All right. And then following on August 20th, I'll be in Albuquerque at hyenas. And then August 21st. Back. You know what? Hyenas as well.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Go ahead. While this is airing, I am at Kennedy's wedding. Ooh. Yeah. The Virgin Kennedy. Yeah, not so virginal anymore. But we made a whole thing of it. So we're going to that way.
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's a lot of, when I think of the history with you and her, it's like, my mind bends because it's a lot of time passed. 30 years at least and plus. All right. So, Drew, what do you got? Yeah, I got doctor.com. Rumble, ask Dr. Drew and follow on Twitter on X. Ask at DRDRAW. So until next time.
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