The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2100 - How Common Sense Became Uncommon | Part 2

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

Adam and Dr. Drew discuss the shocking death of Hayden Panettiere before taking a look at some of the rare and extremely expensive cars Adam saw over the weekend. Adam breaks down the business of restoring and selling ultra-luxury vehicles, while Dr. Drew shares a hilarious clip from his interview with former NBA player Royce White. They also discuss people misrepresenting their ethnicity or disabilities to gain an advantage in college admissions and why a college degree is no longer essential for success.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, got to get on. The choice they get on. Dr. Drew, board certified decisions. Dick's the specialist. Yeah, buddy.

What's going on there, Drewski? Hey, I wanted to complete a thought I had a couple days, last show or a couple days we were talking about Hayden Panetier, and I said, you know, I hope my peers didn't give her opiates and or valium-like drugs like benzodiazepines. And I thought to myself afterwards, I thought, you know, the same thing that happens when doctors take care of famous people, where they sort of overprescribe, they get excited about taking care of them. Same thing that happened to Fauci being, becoming famous in the press. When people are doctors, they are not used to these things. They get adulterated severely if they are in the presence.

of somebody who's a famous person or they themselves become famous. Just I thought I had. I wanted to complete that. Yeah, no, it's true. It's a problem. Everything gets worse for Fauci all day, every day. What if Fauci was a graph? What if he was a graph?

Fauci was a graph. And what that graph looked like? Oh, it would just go up, up, up, and then down, down. It would be a steady. The delta would be a real number. It would be steady. Right. There is no, if you were looking at the graph once he started heading down, there would be no variation. It would not be a all down. It would be a straight line. It would not be a parabola. It would just be a... Everything's bad. And the more you know, the worse it gets. But it's same with all things CNN in COVID and all things Biden in COVID. It's all just worse.

Speaking of that, it just gets worse. You had a little back and forth with Chris Cuomo, I sort of saw. I wanted to, it was weird to me that he did that to you. Well, he didn't really do anything to me. I mean, you retweeted something he had said back in the day. He was very aggressive in many of his positions during COVID and against the unvaccinated and for the masking and all the stuff that turns out to be completely ridiculous and fallacious. And you retweeted it. His words.

Yes. And he did something. Well, he didn't, you know, he basically wrote me and said, you know, so you don't think vaccines, you know, did anything for anyone. You know, it's a kind of a thing where they go, so nobody could, you know, and I go, and I just, I just wrote him back like, yeah, vaccines help some people, but we shouldn't have been taking them like we were taking them. and it was basically the content of it was basically I said you know I said you know I said but you know love your brother you know and he said that doesn't sound too lovely to me kind of thing like he was kind of saying why are you outing me or why are you doing this sort of thing which I you know I kind of get I get to this sounds that's why someone's a friend of yours and you go why

why are you doing this and you know no you made this sound like I got better. This makes more sense to me now. Yeah. Because before it sounded like a little bull. I mean, he can be bullying, but I didn't imagine he would do that with you. But it is, this is this thing that people fucking can't get through their head, which is you can say at once, we should not have mandated that a 19-year-old male has to get a vaccine to go to school or get in a restaurant. That is no bioethical standing for that.

And at the same time, say, the vaccine may have helped 85-year-olds do. during Alpha and Delta. That's all I said, all I ever said. Yeah. I had that conversation with him once too, and he was, and he had difficulty getting his head around. Well, look, I like Chris Cuomo. Now, here's the thing.

Yeah. But if you're going to be very animated about a subject and then it turns out the data doesn't support your previous animation about it, be prepared to have people say something about it. Yeah. Especially when it impacted people's lives. in a very negative way. So that's all.

The argument really isn't over vaccines. The argument is sort of, are you allowed to say something about it if a friend said something about it? Well, here's the other thing. That's the argument. And my answer is always sort of yes, but you shouldn't be...

Hubristic. Well, you shouldn't do it in a way that's hurtful, I suppose. And it can be ingested or taken as that way. Like, hey, as a friend, why would you say this? You know what I mean? My thing is, is I don't think people got, I don't think people understood that those of us who are on the negative side of this got the shit kicked out of us for three or four years.

Yes. And this notion of, well, we're done now, turn the page. fine for you who were doing all this, but we were on the losing end of this. We were pariahs and being attacked for three or four years, and now you feel like you're being attacked. But this is a very short window versus a extended period of time of being attacked. And I would argue you merely showed the totality of his words. What particularly happened to me was people clip things out and left out things I was saying or context. And then it got attacked for that.

Yes. And I would say one is more unfair than the other. Yes. Any of that. Okay. Well, thank you for setting that straight. Also, thank you for those car pictures on X. Oh, my God.

Such beautiful cars you were amongst. Yeah, they're really creating some beautiful, beautiful work now. It didn't really exist in the past, but they're taking older models of cars and redoing them. It's kind of an interesting subject, I think. It's a Bizzarini. So what they're... No.

Bizarini is a Bizzarini. Oh, I don't know what that is. Bitzerini. He used to work for Ferrari. And that's a Bougatty. I wondered, is that Bugatti? altered in somewhere? Is that how they were made? That's a brand new car. Wow. Yeah, they brought their brand back that way.

That's just a... Oh, shit. Maserati, I would say probably what this one is. I was just walking around the beach. You put a Fiat up there that was kind of interesting. That looked kind of like that. Look, all the Italian stuff from back in the day is pretty, that's a Ferrari. That's a Fiat. They just did... You go to... Pebble Beach, you see cars, you'll never see anywhere else, and they're exquisite. And I think people think, oh, you see a Ferrari or you see a Pantera or a Porsche or something, you see cars that don't exist anywhere else, except for this place. And the craftsmanship and the beauty of it

and the aesthetic is just mind-blowing. And that's what I got. It's just amazing what artisans these guys were and what they could create, especially the Italian stuff, circa, you know, somewhere in 1955 to like 1968, you know, the stuff that was coming out with just romance. Romance. Just I don't, if you don't appreciate it, I, I, then it's like saying, I don't like a great smoked brisket or something like that. So I guess you're out.

Like you're just not into life. Yeah. I guess because this stuff is just. So mind-blowingly beautiful. But there's also, so what's going on is their companies are taking the old cars and redoing them and then making a business out of it. So you take, let's say, I'll give an example. It started with a, I don't know if it started, but a company called Singer started getting old Porsche tubs, redoing them to the nines and selling them, and now they're worth like $1.3 million a car. So the business model had to be there.

So the new world order is you get an old Ferrari, and it may be. you know, two or three hundred thousand dollars, and then you completely gut it and make a new modern car that still looks like the old car, but you take the modern touches. They used to do that with the American, old American 50s cars and stuff. Yeah, that was a little, that was a little different, but no, you're right, you're right. So, okay. The Thunderbird was a classic thing they did with that. Yeah, well, let me explain.

And I said it all the time. And so here's where we're at. And here's why I'm a genius. So they would go, it's a restomod. And they'd go, they'd call it a restomod. And they'd go, well, what is it? And they'd go, well, it's a 72 Chevy Chavelle, but it has all modern Corvette running gear brakes and power plant and air conditioning and a satellite radio or whatever.

And it looked kind of cool. They did all the little, and they go, we frenched in the bumpers, we brought the bumpers in, and we shaved off the marker lights on the side. And I would go, yeah, but it's still a 72 Chevelle. What if you started with something really cool? What have you started with a really bitch in shape, you know? Why don't they do that? Well, because those cars are $300,000.

You can get a Chevelle tub for $4,000. I go back to the kind of classic American cars. Those would be perfect. I mean, they're not getting that kind of money for those anymore. First off, they've done this to every classic American car. times 10 million. Okay. So they've done every Bel Air and every Chevelle and every El Camino and every pile of American shit

from 1965 to 1975. All they've done all the way through it. Okay. But what if they did it on a Dino Ferrari that was already beautiful? Yeah. Okay. But a Dino Ferrari is 500 grand. Yeah.

So do you want to spend 500 grand for a Dino Ferrari, take it to the shop and take it apart and just completely got it? Would it be worth less as a result of that? Well, it's interesting, right? Now, okay, so in the past, the conceit is if you just start with the Chevelle, you're only into it for five grand before you start cutting it up and taking it apart and doing all the shit to it. So by the time you put the whole thing to get back together, you're in at 150 grand, but maybe you could sell it for 200.

Right. But if you start off by spending 500 and you take the whole thing apart, where are we at? Could you get 500 back for it? If so, you'd be out the extra 300 it took for labor and parts and whatever. The New World Order is you get that car and you ask 1.5 for it. And you do it times 30 cars or whatever it is. So now they're taking these older cars that are. much better platforms for this.

I mean, it's sort of like saying... From a beauty standpoint. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. In fact, interesting, when I was looking at these cars, I was looking at my ex-feed yesterday when you put them up, and I thought to myself,

some of these would be a pain in the ass to drive. They could be uncomfortable, right? They modernize them as much as they want. The Bitzerini 5300 Strata we were looking at at the beginning, the blue car. I went up and talked to the guy for a while, and he knew who I was, and it turned out his dad had a famous Dotson and used to race,

and he used to go there when he was a kid and blah, blah, blah. But anyway, I said these bizzerini's, bizzerini people say, I go, these cars are one million bucks to start with. So what are you asking for this car? It's like, 1.5. And I'm like, so is your business model? You spend a million dollars for a car, then you take it and do over 500 grand work on it and then ask for 1.5?

Like, where are you getting the donors for these cars? And he said, no, we're not. We are, this is all new carbon fiber. Like we went to Bruce Meyer, a friend of mine who has a Bitzerini-Lamah car, race car. So we took all the schematics off of his car. We repop it in basically it's not aluminum, but it's carbon fiber. So that car, that picture is a new car. It's a new car.

We put it on a new chassis and we keep all the old stuff. That car came with a 327 Corvette engine. Like I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example. That car came with a small block Chevy Corvette engine, 327, and it had cross-ram air intake, and it had cross-ram carbureated, side-draft Weber carbureated cross-ram induction.

Okay. Okay. That's hard to synchronize and keep all the four carburetors in tune and blah, blah, blah. What they have now is modern electronic fuel. injection that looks exactly the same as the old carbs that they cast with the old air cleaners. You look at it, you cannot tell it is a modern electronically fuel injected car. So now you have this modern system in the vintage look. Same block, same everything underneath it.

Same block, same heads. But all the electronic ignition, electronic motek injection, blah, blah, blah. It's all very modern, safe, standard. reliable, super reliable. And then you do the same thing with the brakes and every component of the car. And then you have this thing that looks like a 66-bitsarini, 5300, except for it's all drivable and reliable. It's funny, the electric I was thinking about, I drove an old Ford back in the day and

had a not even an alternator. It had a regulator. Yeah, yeah. That shit would go out all the time. Yeah, regulator. Jesus. Versus, well, sorry. No, no.

it had a generator. And a regulator. No, I know, but hold on. Yeah. I'll tune you up. Yeah, please. We'll take a quick break. I'll be right back after this.

Yeah. Okay. You had an alternator has a regulator on it. You had a generator, which is different than an alternator. Okay. But it serves the same. It serves the same function. It was a ridiculous thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, all, yes, so you, yes, old cars had a generator. So everything about these cars is beautiful, but they're reliable and they're workable. And by the way, they sell them for, you know, you'd say, say it a guy, what do you, how much for the car? 1.5, you know, people line up, you know, Hennessy, John Hennessy out of Texas who's making a supercar, whatever, friendly guy talking to him. Like, I'm building a supercar.

Like, how much is it? It's like 1.5. How many are you going to make? 80. How's the sales going? They're all spoken for. Where everyone's signed up. Do they sell them here at this thing, the amount of anything?

They do their display. They talk to people. People sign up. All those cars are spoken for. They're pre-bought. This is what I'm going to talk about is a year and a half in advance. And it's only because of modern machining and technology and scanning and all that kind of stuff where they can actually, we're living in an age. age where you can actually

stand next to this Bitserini and I'm not a Bitserini expert but I know more than anybody in Glendale Burbank area about Bitterini's and I just stood and looked at it and went I don't know if this is a actual Bitserini or it's a now back in the day

you knew what a Kitgar was it was on a Fiero VW bug with fake and everything like shit right not anymore they do it all they do the repop of the rim $5 million. That's true, too. Daytona, Shelby.

Mm-hmm. Forty-eight million bucks. No, 43. Beg your pardon. $43 million. Was that sold recently, or is that you were standing by that car with the guy that bought it for $800 from Shelby? All right, Drew. You're having seen your moments here.

That's why I understood it. I know. Wait, do we take our, we took our break? Okay. It's kind of funny. Let me tell you the story as an interview. Yeah, I know. You know what I realized is why we're, the trial system is no longer usable.

Like you say, you sit there and you do that interview, right? Yeah. And that's Pete Brock. And Pete Brock will go, I built car number one at Shelby. Car number one came back from Europe and set a bunch of records at Bonneville, got all up and no one would buy it for 800 bucks and then he'll go now this is not car number one they made six of these this is but not car number one so when I built went to bonneville and he wouldn't take whatever and then at some point you read the comments and I go that car went to bonneville

it's like now it was he was you delineate stuff you go and then people are like now and he didn't buy it for 800 bucks so I didn't listen to any of you I listened to it I read the captions And maybe that's what fucked me up. He said something about Shelby coming down the stairs and said, who wants to buy this car, $8,00, so I bought it. And I thought he meant the car he was standing in front. No, I didn't say, so I bought it, no. That's...

He didn't, wasn't the one that bought that car for $800. No, absolutely not. Okay. You shouldn't understand it that way because they passed. I was reading it. Even reading it, you shouldn't have. I don't know. We can see what the caption says.

So see if it's confusing to Drew or to anyone. Ambiguous. Um, that car, well, okay, there's six of those cars. It doesn't really matter which one you get. It's just there's six of them. And if you passed on one, it wouldn't matter if you passed on number three or number four, number one. You just passed on a car.

Right. That is worth $45 million. Right. Now, and that, by the way, that one is not as valuable as number one. number one would go for more than that and I started thinking why so much here let's see it can you read it from here okay Pete Brock looking at the video now

just Pete Brock the guy designer of the 64 Shelby Cobre Daytona Coupe yes yeah which I read that all right you read that this guy design this car when he's 25 years old I read that all right but just let the caption run without the sound. Oh, there's a caption.

Well, there was on my thing. Oh, so your thing will close caption the thing. Like a closed caption thing. Oh, I didn't know that. Well, that's what I read. That's what I was reading. Well, I don't know. Let's hear it.

Let's just hear it anyway. You know what? This wasn't the caption I saw, by the way. All right. Somebody corrupted that. caption yeah but let's just hear what he had to say anyway because I I should be the I got the cover with salt part and well you can we can hear what he had to say let's hear people in the booth and the car the the doors were falling out well

why is this played from the start there we took the car to Bonneville and we set 23 international FIA records with a car yeah you know just this is the old race car we just put a new motor in it put on some fresh tires and set all these FIA records on it. So the car came back from Bonneville and it's covered with salt and it was so rough out there because they had to run out in the dirt part of it. And the car, the doors were falling off, the headlights were coming out. The thing was a total trash. So Shelby came down and looked at it and he said, anybody want to buy this car? I'll sell it to you. You can have it. Oh, $800. $800.

That's the part I read. But I thought it kept going. No, you could imply, or you could be confused and think maybe he bought it for $800. Or he's standing in front of it, so it's like his car, but it's not his car. But what was your caption at the top, that he sold it for $43 million? No. Or it sold for $43 million? It sold.

I think I read it as he sold it for $43 million. Oh. Yeah. This is why the jury system needs to be scrapped. Yeah. This guy designed it. It just sold. Yeah, see.

And then I read the $800, he bought it. Confusion. Yep. All right. But he didn't say that. No, he did not. But there's a lot of it. And I get it.

Maybe there's just more to keep track of these days. So, yes, he sold that car. He did not sell that car, but that car was sold for $43 million. Amazing. It's also kind of funny. I had a funny thing with him. He's 90. He's the nicest guy in the world.

You can see, and if you look at it, Andrew, you'll see it. But at some point he goes, yeah, we didn't have the long, we didn't have a long teardrop rear end on it for aerodynamics. And then he gestures to another car that's being sold. And he goes, like that Porsche 917 over there, which did have that long. and I go, that's a 907. And he goes, yeah, no, yeah, the 9-17. And I go, it's a 907.

Because it was a 907. That was Seinfeld's car, and I knew the car real well. And I didn't want to stand there and argue with the guy. If it was anybody else, I would have went, stop tape. Let's just go walk over there. I'll show the plaque. It says 907. All right, let's come back now.

But why so much value in the Shelby stuff? What is it? Why so much value in the Shelby stuff? Yeah, what is it? There's not, there isn't that much value historically on the Shelby stuff as opposed to other stuff. Is it the rarity of it or something? Well, it's always rarity of something. I mean, there's always a limited, there's always a limited supply.

I mean, Shelby stuff isn't exquisitely limited. They're a rare. There's plenty of examples around every. I was at the track. There was a race where there was, I don't know, four or five Shelby Cobras in there. Like it's not that. There's always a few for sale on an auction weekend

if it's a Monterey auction. It's not that. I guess I'm just not used to the amounts. The dollar amounts seem extreme. Well, this isn't, this one isn't on Shelby's names so much. This one is more of a, they made six, which is very limited. These things don't change hands very much at all. I talked to Aaron Schellberg, I was busting his jobs the whole weekend, a grandson, good dude, nice guy, but he said me, I go,

before the auction, you know, it's 25. He said, I think it stalls out at like 18 or or something like that. I said, I don't know. These things never come up. I mean, they just don't come up. So why wouldn't it go? And he goes, everyone who wants Shelby Daytona already has one. I go, I don't think that's true.

I think there's people who want one who don't have one. You wouldn't know if they rarely come up. And sure enough, went to 43. And then I saw him the next day. And I was like, hey, hey, genius. How are you doing? I had fun with him. But this car is very rare.

six, captured a sort of a sweet spot in racing, European international racing, which is like 64, 65, 66, at the real sweet zone of when all the great cars and the great drivers and all the glory and everything was there. Also, there's a math that people do. So you go,

okay, if you squint, it looks a little bit like a Ferrari GTO. A Ferrari GTO, they made 36 of. This car was basically built to beat the Ferrari GTOs. And it was faster. And it did beat the Ferrari GTOs. And a Ferrari GTO, you know, there's this, you can do this. You can go, look, Ferrari GTO, give me the specs.

Well, they made 36 of them. Okay. And what years did they make them? Like, oh, 62, 6, 3, 64. Okay. And they made 36. Yeah. And did they beat the Shelby?

No, the Shelby kind of beat them. Okay. And how much are they trading for? Real low end, probably about 40 million and high end, maybe 80 million. Or nobody knows. But somewhere between, really between like 40 and 100 million, right? All right, that's a GTO. Okay.

They made 36. Yeah. How many of these? they make six oh what are they training for well the last one sold for like eight that was like 15 years ago oh but why aren't they the price of the gTO they made six of them and those are 50 70 yeah i don't know oh well i bet they're going to catch you up i bet they'll make that margin up numbers are so crazy and so somebody figured out why shouldn't i order it why shouldn't i pay what i would pay, what they paid for this car is what you pay for a cheap GTO with not a lot of history,

and there's 36. I get it. So that's how the math works. Hey, I've got a video I want to play for you of an interview I did with Royisha White. Royisha White. Have you seen this video by a chance? No. So if you could tee it up, play it to the point where she talks about her pronouns, and we can

kind of just when she spells that all. out. Maybe we can wrap it up there. It's about a minute a half or so, I think, in and start at the beginning. This is this guest, I was talking, Dr. Kelly Victory, about some vaccine stuff or something. And this former NBA player, no, no, start at the beginning of the interview with her. Yeah. And she just dropped in, which take a listen. Royce White joining us now. You can follow

this um i i'm royce i'll i don't want to specify a you have to tell me how you like to be um identified in terms of your pronouns uh royce is on uh instagram highway underscore 30 royce was an NBA player and is now interested in joining the WNBA how how shall i address you well i'm sometimes identifying as a black trans lesbian you can uh call me roysha that's my My new name, you've dead named me. But it's okay. We go way back, Dr. Drew, so, you know, the people who I know have a good relationship with, I give them some grace on my new name.

And my pronouns are- Yeah. Yeah, no, my pronouns are pay me. Okay. Okay. And, all right, that's enough. Yeah, I get it. You get that.

Well, look. You get where he's going. She's going. Look, here's the thing, everybody. If you are going to say for anything, all right, here's the time we're living in. Okay? You ready? Here we are.

I'm ready. Half of the undergrad students at Stanford say they have a disability so they can get more time to take finals. You know, do they? Yeah. They're Stanford. I think it's Stanford. I thought it was Stanford Law School, which I argued with Andrew about because that's the way I heard it. But Andrew just says it's like 40 something percent.

of just say it for students. Why? Okay. Hey, check this box if you have any American Indian blood and we can help you get into UCLA. Or get a note from your doctor so you can smoke pot. Or bring your dog. You have a service animal. Now it's a service animal.

You're traveling with your dog. There's nothing we will not exploit. Corrupt. I think that's kind of the word. I guess it's kind of corrupt. Parts indicate that roughly 38% of Stanford University undergrad has registered

with a disability. Okay, why? Well, you get an extra two hours to take your finals. Maybe a parking placard where you get to park right up front when you go to Costco.

Wouldn't that be nice? Who doesn't want to park up front? It's a wonder where fragility comes from. Well, more fragile, more accommodation. Well, once we understand that, look, I mean, there was a, there was a million years ago. I remember, like, my accountant is going, you know, there's a thing where if you donate 50 grand to Jimmy's kids college fund, then you can write it off as a taxing, and then he'll donate 50

to your kid's college, and they can write it off as a tax fund, whatever. And I go, oh, okay, you know, I don't know. I'm not a criminal, but I'll save taxes. on 50 grand. I'll donate. Here's the beauty of that, by the way. If you want to know the crystal brain, I'm listening. All this guy does is, that's all he does, is high-end

net worth guys, taxes, money management. That's all he does. That's all he's ever done. I said to him, I go, Tony, can I just do this for Bill Simmons kids and Dr. Drew's kids and they can do is there a limit to this? He goes, I think it's unlimited. I go, okay, it's limited. He goes,

I don't think it's unlimited. I go, oh, so I can just pick out 20 of my rich friends, and we can give all their kids 50 grand, and they can give all my kids 50 grand, we can just ride it all off. It's not limited to one. I don't think it's unlimited. It's limited.

Now, he's got tax codes and books and everything in front of him. That's all he does for a living. What do I got? Crystal brain. I got a fucking crystal brain. I go, it's limited, Tony. I don't think it is. I go, well, good.

Then let's fucking do it for everybody. and just keep riding off the whatever. Of course, next day. Yeah, it's limited to one person. Yeah, no shit. How do I know? How do I know, Drew? Because you have a crystal brain.

Because they're not going to let you do that. Right. Because everyone would then do it. Right. And then instead of riding off 50 grand, we're going to write off $5 million because every single person I know is going to be giving each other's kids 50 grand. That's right.

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I saw the commercial. You know what it's like, then you go, oh. first person pays full fare, then the kid eats for $3. You know, there's a thing. The reason there's a thing is because there has to be a thing. Right. It has to make sense. It has to pencil.

The federal government wouldn't go, yeah, go ahead and just give $50,000 everyone to write it all off, right? What's kind of interesting to me about those sorts of weird, corrupt sort of maneuvers, it's the over-regulation and the overtaxing that sort of forces it. It encourages it. Of course it forces you to do that shit. So everyone does everything all the time. With that in mind, we cannot have so many options. Sorry, Stanford students. We're not going to put a box where you can check this thing that gets you an extra two hours on finals.

Do you know what I'm saying? Right. Yes. Yeah. No, I don't know how we roll it back, though. I mean, you're right. it should be like that. But in fact, how do you get the horse back in the barn, as they say?

I don't know. I guess the way it's going to happen is these institutions are going to have to lose their prestige. People are going to go, oh, I know what that is. That's okay, those kids. We're not going to do that. Well, we're already kind of there. I mean, really what we're dealing with, really what we're kind of dealing with in their sort of modern movement of all this. Socialism stuff, and I'm not the first to bring it up.

But it's a bunch of over-educated losers who are sort of unemployable because they took all these, you know, they majored in, you know, humanities or something. And they don't, they're, they've got a whole bunch of debt. I mean, here's what we're dealing with, Drew. A whole bunch of over-educated people with a whole bunch of over-educated people with a whole bunch of debt who are basically, basically not employable because of what they studied for all for the years that they gained. So it's like here's what I'm saying. You ready, Drew? Ready.

Let's just say you spent two years in welding school and you came out with a certified welding degree. And now you're going to go to work for SpaceX. And you're starting at 65 bucks an hour and whatever. Okay. That's what you're doing. And by the way, your welding school was 25 grand a year. You spent two years. You racked up 50.

And now you're going to go to work with Elon. Focus on me, true. Okay. But let's just say I went to school and I was a Chicano studies major. But my school was 80 grand a year and I went for four years. And now I've racked up 350 grand worth of experience. and I got a Chicano studies major and I can't fucking work at SpaceX. Right.

I don't know where I'm going to work. I'm going to work, you know, part time at a library or something in the Chicano book section or something. Right. So now I'm sitting around and I'm going, fuck this. Where's my shit? I want stuff. Why these, why's Elon got all this shit? I got to go work at a Starbucks with this degree, sometimes more than a four-year degree.

I got nowhere to go. But I have no practical use for anybody. No one needs me. That's the thing. We need welders. We need pipe fitters. We need electricians. Nobody needs me.

You know what I mean? Like you're talking about these guys and these cars. They need fucking fabricators and mechanics. And people can put shit together. And every time I talk to one of these guys, it's like I go, can you find labor? Can you find young dudes? who, and they're like, it's all old dudes.

Like, I can't find young dudes who can work at Heliark or mig or Tig and, like, actually weld and fab stuff up. I need fabricators. Like, I don't, they don't have them. But, you know, hopefully Mike Roe and me will fix that. And it's something. I've been talking about this shit for 30 years. You should start fabricator schools, help these guys help bring up the next generation.

Well, they're working on a lot of stuff because they need all this stuff. But it's all that, save the music. Carol Crow, I was always, this is such bullshit. Who gives a fuck? Shop class. I'm saying it. Yep. Yeah.

Very unpopular, old school, unpopular, saying all the unpopular stuff my entire life into a microphone. But now you have a whole wave of not gruntled, Drew, disgruntled people with lots of education, lots of indoctrination. They didn't go to welding school and a worthless degree. And a ton of debt. And so now what? You would think they could change direction and engage, but that's the part that's not happening. They don't want, it's like beneath them, or they don't want to do it, or I don't know what that is. They don't know how to work, and they don't want to learn.

And they don't want to go fucking somewhere where they're up on their feet all day and working. But they don't want that. They want to sit around and exchange ideas in air condition. They do. They have no fucking idea how to work. And they never have. And now all they know is they want their student loan debt paid off. And they want, you know, health care, and they want rent control, and they want transportation, and they want discounted markets. Like, what do they want? Well, they want a bunch of shit money formally paid for, except for they don't make money. And they owe money. And they're overeducated. What's the answer? Crystal Brain.

All the welding dudes are just going to go off to SpaceX in fucking Texas and flourish. No. And these guys... These are a lot of people. It's going to crumble. It's just going to cave in on itself. They won't... They're not going anywhere.

They'll have to cave in on themselves. They'll have to find a job or something. I don't know. They'll just... They can't default on the loan. The good news is a lot of them come from wealth. That's true. And I shouldn't say wealth, but they come from families that are, you know, they have some assets.

You know, somebody's going to die and leave them a house and maybe a vacation home or, you know, an asset or two. But they can't default on the loan. So the loan's going to suck up a lot of that, right? I mean. This particular. I don't know. I would say most people who can go to an expensive college rack up a pretty big tab and study nothing come from wealth or some form of wealth because that is a luxury right there. Poor folk don't get to rack up huge bills in college and learn nothing, except for to hate the government, obviously.

There's a lot of elevating people with. I hope they, I don't know if that was all through debt, though. You know, your friend Kat Timp, who we had on the show a week ago? She was saying last night that the best move, she was accepted to all these Ivy schools that would have cost her 80 grand a year and $350,000 in loans. And she went to some states, or she didn't even go to purely went to school. The smartest move she ever made. Yeah, yeah.

She would have not as good in education or at least nothing to really lean on in terms of employment. And $400,000 of debt. Yeah. Best move we should ever made, not doing that. I, look, you and I have been around this park, a few, a few laps at this park. I told you 30 years ago, I don't know. First of all, Drew was always a nut. He's like, 50 grand a kid, times three, times a semester, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I was a snob about it. You were a snob? Yes. Drew was a snob and he was always ringing his hands. Yes. About how much, how much to send his kids. And you know why that was that way for me? Because it did so much for me, I wanted to be able to do that for my kids.

But I didn't know the whole education system had changed so much. Right. And I was always just like, look, Drew, they'll do what they want. They'll find their way. They don't have to go to school. If they don't want to go to them. Drew is nuts. Drew basically

And it cost them half a million bucks to get his kids brainwashed Which turned out to be funny But I was 30 years ago I was exactly the same place I am now Which is I don't think you need it All the successful people I know Didn't They either dropped out or never went

I see no straight line from this Unless you want to be a doctor In which case, you know, fine There's a couple of jobs where you do need that Engineer, doctor, maybe accountant Yeah Yeah, a couple things. Nah.

I mean, all right. So the whole point is, is I knew this thing was a ruse, a long, a grift, a long time ago. And now the curtain has been pulled back and we see the wizard. You know what's so sad. I don't even know. I'm now, I used to be agnostic about it. I'm now against it. I used to go, look, if you want to go to college, good, good.

Knock yourself out. Good for you. Now I'm like over my fucking dead body. You shouldn't send your kids to fucking college. And not these ones, at least. And I'm closer to where you started, right? But you don't, you can't imagine what, people don't even know what it was like. It was so good.

It's like Camelot once upon a time. College. Yes, the real education. Well, yes. Not this version of college. Not this. This is bullshit. Yes.

This is terrible. Right. People are trying to recruit the University of Austin, places like that. People are trying to recreate these old school things. But they're too far between. Yes. So you would be very selective, and I don't think any Ivy Leagues would land on your dance card for your kids to go to college. And but also I realize that learning how to work is a big deal.

Yeah. And I would much, I'd be much happier if we. took my kids and dropped them off on a working ranch and said spend two years working on this ranch. And then when you're done, we can see about what kind of education or college or whatever. Because learning to work. Yeah. I say, oh, but the work is the educated. It's a work.

They have to work at the reading and the writing and the thinking. That's the work. I'd go, you just got to, I would say you got to think for yourself or whatever. And you'd say college taught me how to think. It's true. They did. Right, but not anymore. Not anymore.

Or if they did, they corrupted them in terms of how they think. No, not anymore. The work ethic. It wouldn't fall victim to this if they'd been trained the way. Bill Maher and I were trained the same way. That's what he and I sort of bonded around. And both of us would not have fallen victim to all this stuff if we were also taught to think. Right.

You can't be adulterated. Right. You go, I don't know, let's think about it. Yes. So we've gotten him off the farm into the classroom. And now we have ideas. And by the way, the people that are instructing them are no longer farmers or former farmers. They're just a bunch of young, whacked out chicks who are completely indoctrinated to this bullshit.

And so now you have them wearing their, you know, free Hamas T-shirt on there. And now it's even worse. They're being instructed by people that are brainwashed. that are brainwashed. And so is the president, and so is the entire faculty. Because I always told you, a college is just a little mini-communism in one place. How else do you describe it? You have a whole bunch of people that somebody else is paying their tab.

Everyone's sort of eating and living for free, essentially. And then you have tenure. Can never be fired. Your work, God knows what the workload is. You know, if your TAs do all the grading, and you show up at noon, and leave at three. And then you get summers off. Where else?

What other job? What other job do you get three months off of every year? It does not exist only in sort of this communistic environment that they have. That's why I would say the market's got to come to bear on these institutions. Because the market solves everything, always. It brings reality in. Yeah. Well, now you have a place that has.

a kigillion dollar endowments and all the students are paying 300 grand a year. And you have, then you have like the Biden administration. It's like, we're going to cut student loan. You know, we're going to repay student loan. And I'm like, hey, why don't you talk to the colleges about why it's 300 grand? How about they participate in the repayment because they're the ones that got the money? Right. You want to talk about California refineries gouging.

and raising gas prices. Why don't we talk about gouging going on on college campuses? You really think it's going to cost 80 grand a year for someone to go to this place and learn nothing? And by the way, we have, oh, they have huge debt. Yeah, why don't we look into why they have huge debt?

All right. Tonight, Albuquerque, New Mexico, doing a couple of shows over there, hyenas. Got a 7 and 9.30, and then off to Tucson at the Rialto Theater. That'll be tomorrow. You know, Adam Crowler.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Drew.com for everything there.

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