The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2107 - Why Dating Is Dying w/ Elisha Krauss | Part 1

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

Political commentator Elisha Krauss fills in for Adam Carolla while he’s away, and she and Dr. Drew bond over their shared ability to constantly annoy him. They react to a viral clip of Camille Paglia discussing the sexual revolution, talk about why marriage can be especially beneficial for men, and explore how social media is constantly reshaping young people’s opinions. They also talk about how dating has changed among younger generations and the rise of modern hookup culture.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Said something in my ear. Mandate, get it on, no choice, but to get it on. I'm Dr. Drew. I'm the other half of the team that's usually here. I don't normally open the show. I'm in New York. And Elisha Kraus is anchoring at the Corolla Studios. Alicia, thank you for joining us. Happy to be here. Good morning. This is going to be fun. I love my friend, Adam Corolla, but sometimes it's a relief when we have a little time apart.

You know what I'm saying? Which reminds me of something I meant to ask Chuck and Andrew, which is, you know how he yells at me, gentlemen? He really, really yells at me. Does that make you guys uncomfortable? Are you surprised how much he carries on? It did make us uncomfortable at first, but then we kind of settled into it. We got accustomed to it. Kind of like living with like an older gay couple, and this is just how they bicker.

No, no. What he means, Alicia, is it means it's like living with an abusive parent. That's more like that. I mean, we could have Adam come back and then we could be three's company. Ooh, interesting. Fascinating. So what's hilarious is you and I have met socially a handful of times out here in Los Angeles. Shout out to our friend Dave Rubin for hosting a dinner party where we originally met in real life.

But we haven't done a show together. So this is exciting. And also, Adam will often, I don't know if you watch the news segments I do with him, but he'll often look over here in this chair and be like, you and Dr. Drew, you're the same. So I feel like you're kind of my brother from another mother because apparently the way in which we annoy him is very similar. Yeah, I'm honored. So let me guess what that is that we will not engage in any racist outbursts that he might be engaged in. Ding, ding, ding, ding. We go quiet. He accuses us of being, uh, oh, no, I'll push back on him a little bit. Oh, that's a, I'm, I'm going to coach you up

right now it's a giant mistake. It's a giant mistake. Don't do too much of that. I also will like, I don't like the use of the B word. I think it's like unnecessary and I'm like, you're smarter than that. You can come up with another derogatory term for women other than comparing us to a female dog in heat. So, yeah.

He, does he engage with you on these topics about women? You ever heard the term? You've heard the term. No, chick think. You ever heard him talk about that? Oh, that too. Mm-hmm. Okay, okay.

Gyno-fascism, chick-think. Mm-hmm. All the things. Now that we're just the cone of silence down and the two of us are here alone, what are your thoughts about his construct of chick-think? I think that his construct of chick-think comes from a place that is not logical and clearly biased based on his upbringing and his issues with his mother, which I have shared with him before. Wait a minute.

Hold a second. He had an issue with mom and grandma. Are you kidding me? Did he mention that? Maybe he's mentioned that in passing? Is that possible? Maybe a little bit. Okay.

But I do, and I mean, I speak on college campuses about this. Clearly there are scientific, emotional, mental differences, hormonal differences between men and women. And I think that those things should actually work together and compliment one another instead of pitting each other against the other sex. Well, that was the last wave of feminism. Yes. That was the Megan Dom version of sex, of feminism.

I mean, I'm even a fan of Camille Paglia, right? And some others, like of what they've said, not the Planned Parenthood, you know, Gloria Steinem version. Have you seen Camille last a couple of days? She's been out there big again. She's gone. I've tried to get her on my podcast for my streaming show a ton of times. And she just went silent for about five years, four years.

And now she is back out on the warpath. Dr. Drew, I can find it. I'll look it up for you. I know what clip you're talking about. That's so fascinating. Yeah, she's talking about the infantilization of women. Hmm. And that, you know, we should be more, expect more from women. Well, this is, I mean, often the argument I make in pro-life speeches, it's like,

why are we telling women that a child can ruin their life instead of actually, yes, you can have your cake and eat it too? like that there actually something and listen I have many friends some have been guests on this show that are childless by choice some are childless not by their own choice and then some are like me that have a bigillion kids and so at least by LA standards I have four and so I think that a billion of Dr. Brad Wilcox who I love who talks a lot about the infantilization of young men and how they're afraid to own up and ask women out on a date and he talks about this sincere yeah but no one. You know what, though? I'm going to argue, I want to get into that with you. Yeah. I'm going to argue that's not infantilization. That is literally obfuscating and preventing them from developing the skill set, the developmental milestones that men need to navigate those things. They have to, they have to do it.

They have to practice. And we are told them they're worthless. You're toxic. You can't ask somebody out. Here's Camille Paglia. Take listen to this. You don't think there's a problem, a sexual assault? Because a lot of women are coming forward now. No. In cases of real rape, of course should be prosecuted. Of course, real rape is a crime. But this is not real rape.

We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for decades. It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. But you know that a lot of women are afraid of sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not be able to go and drink and play beer pong and get drunk like the guys do? They live in fear. If you go to a fraternity house party with a chaos going on in the living room area, and a young man says to you, would you like to go up to my room?

I'm sorry, okay? You are consenting to sex. He is right to think you have consented, okay? To go up there and so other sides, change your mind and so on, right? It's not right, of course, for anyone to impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally. But women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution has been won. Why are we coddling young women, okay, to say, go on being, you know, children?

Because mommy and daddy will be there to pick up the pieces for you afterward. Shouldn't it be, shouldn't men be afraid of the consequences of, of not getting consent? We have laws on the books, okay, against rape, okay? But the point is right now, okay? But everybody in that world will tell you it's almost impossible to, for women to have the strength to come forward, to make the case, and so on. Oh, Lord, okay. We're going to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class girls, confused, unsure of what they want.

Perhaps the sexual revolution should be reversed, okay? Because what we're showing is perhaps co-education is a bad idea. Maybe today's young women are not prepared. Let's stop there. But she's, you know, I think what brought her out of her hibernation was the Cornell thing. Dr. Drew, this interview is from it. decade ago. This is just, oh, she just, she just called her shot. I mean, but it's so timely for right now, right? Oh, that's so interesting. See, I thought she'd come back out because she, we were, we had, we had some success making contact with her. Maybe because of that making the round, she's feels she has to go back out and sort of re-and-

and she should. And I think, because I think that her voice is necessary, even if I don't agree with some of what she says, it's like, this is where conservatives are more consistent than the other side. It's like we're willing to have the dialogue and debate. about this. And our buddy Ben Shapiro was talking about the other day. He's like, the sexual revolution said consent is okay. Like anything that is consensual is supposed to be allowed now. But when you are a moral person, you look at the totality of the Cornell case and you go to, actually, this young woman shouldn't be putting out and participating in this type of activity because it's bad for her as a human being. And we believe from a religious standpoint, it's bad for her soul. I mean, even though she was being hyperbolic there, I kind of like laughed when she's like, well, maybe we should reverse the sexual revolution. I guess you could call me a prude,

but I don't know. I think maybe we do need to go back to young men asking women out. They're young women being able to like be chased and withhold themselves and like make men work for you, make men earn you. And don't, why are we telling women that they have to behave in the same devious ways that men want them to? And I mean, that's not even getting into the over pornification and sexualization of women and culture. Yeah. Yeah. We will get to end of all that I am certain.

But it's interesting to me that morality and spiritual guidance are things. I was at Tim Poole's place in West Virginia about a year ago, a year and a half ago. And one of the like 26 years old went, you know, we need spiritual guidance from like a guy's my age. I was like, oh, whoa, that's something new because, A, that they're looking for that is new and B, that they're asking the older folks, you know, as opposed to just casting the old white guy away. It was, something is up. Something is up.

And you brought up morality as a prism through which to look at behavior. It's not a bad way to go. It has always been a good way to understand things. If you don't want to get into the nuances of what's healthy and what isn't, yeah, morality is not, it's, you know, I always, I just think, you know, the golden rule, right? We've lost track of that. Kant's first imperative, you know, live your life as though your choices can be a, essentially a prescription for a moral imperative. The way to think about it is just always behave as though there's a video camera playing. And guess what?

these days there pretty much always is. I know. So you might as well... Somebody's recording you. You might as well behave accordingly. If it's not the government, it's a Gen Zer with an iPhone. Yeah, it will... It will...

You should be able to defend everything you do. That's really what that is about. And so it's interesting to me that you framed it that way. Well, it's also, it turns out that there was a recent study about religious couples who go to service, whether they're Muslim, Jewish, or Christian, twice or more a month, end up having more sex than their peers. I saw that. The most controversial video that I helped produce during my time at Prager You wasn't about

Larry Elder saying America isn't racist or my video about how Eastern Europe is more pro-life than America. This was pre-the-Dob's decision. It was from a professor that talked about how married men live longer, have happier lives, and tend to make more money. Married men specifically with children. And that just blew everybody's minds and pissed everybody. off because it turns out marriage is a pretty good deal for men when it comes to their

longevity and happiness. Yes. Although it has been a, I don't disagree with that, right? Men need that actually more than women. In fact, that's one thing that research shows men get really lost when they don't have a partner. But they are the younger men, I mean, they are being told they are worthless, toxic, unnecessary, have nothing to offer. If they have a desire to talk to somebody, that's a toxic impulse. And certainly, God forbid, you ever offer somebody a drink. And then as you pointed out, they can't ask somebody out. They've never done it.

They don't know how to do it. It is a window for that. You have to develop that capacity. And now here we are. Then they're looking around and hearing from, hearing from, a lot of women that, you know, they don't need them. They're, you know, and then they think, then I'm hearing men think to themselves, well, if she gets pregnant, she'll abort my child.

And now she can even kill my child if she wants to, the Clancy situation. And marriage has failed too often. And she gets half of the money. What's, what's, what's, there's nothing in this for me. Even though you're right, the sort of emotional, spiritual, even potentially monetary, if they stay married. advantages are measurable. But the way we framed it these days or the way women in particular have framed it,

men are just sort of giving up, or they're going elsewhere. They're going like overseas and things like that to find partners. Interesting. Don't bring any CCP spies here, American men. Don't do it. They seem to be doing it at an uncanny rate. Real estate agents in Orange County, spying on Taiwanese officials. I think, though, that like, it's interesting because you're guys, so you're probably hearing more from young men.

When I go to college campuses, though, and in my DMs, I'm having Gen Z women that are consistently afraid of the, I guess, kind of chauvinism that's creeping into some right leaning in Christian groups. And of men being like, well, a woman's place is not, you know, like where a woman's place is as very traditional pregnant barefoot in the kitchen. And I think that it stinks that on both, for both sexes are kind of making mass assumptions about the other in this age demographic and what they are or are not looking for. And that as a conservative, you, and I think as a religious person, you're supposed to view somebody as like an individual and not just create this like broad brush. And so I think that they, I know, I know. I've mentored them and I meet them every single month. during school campuses, when campuses are open, like in the fall and spring semesters, there are so many young women out there that are looking for good men. And they just need to,

it's almost like I need to start a Christian, like conservative matchmaking. It's like, go to these groups, go to these places, put yourself in places where you can find somebody that's going to be like minded and not defend Lindsay Clancy. That sort of trad wife thing, I wonder if that's propaganda. Oh, I've thought it from the beginning. And it is, And it is actually like there's this pornification of like little house on the prairie with some dudes on the right with that kind of stuff. It's gross. Yeah. So wait a minute. So you're saying it is a real thing that these guys are demanding these traditional roles from women. Yes. Oh. That that's not going to work. That's going to be it's going to just create it's going to be all these backlashes. You know, one backlash is to the next. Yes. You need to get to a middle.

zone. Well, I think it's entirely fair. Like you said, it's like I've, we have friends with kids in college and young men in college that are like, what do I do? How do I find a woman? And I'm saying to them, um, ask her her stance on abortion and on Lindsay Clancy. And but then alternatively, I say to young women, ask them who they watch on YouTube. Because if it is, if it is Andrew Tate and Dick Fuentes, then that is no, but, but if you're on a Ivy League or an elite campus, what do you think you're going to hear about abortion and Lindsay Clancy? And like, Almost everybody you asked that's a female. I'm honestly consistently encouraged.

I'm at Berkeley this week. I'm at University of San Antonio in a couple of weeks. And I think that I'm consistently encouraged that there are actually a large group of people that are pretty normal in their political and religious viewpoints. They just want to finish their education, get a job, get married, buy a house, and have a family. That would be amazing. And we're only hearing. From a health standpoint, people need a simple life.

Yep. There's a reason that these priorities have always been in place in all cultures throughout all time. It's what humans thrive with. But hey, gentlemen, Chuck and Andrew, I don't have a clock. Yeah, we're going to a break. Okay. But you're going to have to, Elisha, you're going to have to do the breaks and even tell me when the show's wrapping up because I do not have a clock. All right.

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That's better help.com slash Adam and Drew. All right. We are back. Alicia Krause is my host with me, co-host. And we have a mandate to get it on, so we're doing so. Hey, Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew, I've got a question. You mentioned something briefly before the break about you were wondering if all that trad wife stuff is propaganda.

Well, I wonder if that the left accuses the right of that, and then women tiptoeing into that zone is worried that that's what they're going to be subjected to. No, I think that there's, so there's obviously the ballerina farm who I will defend because that's her lifestyle and her choices. You're saying it is a prominent feature of those environments. And I, that's surprising to me. That's surprising. Really? No. Yeah, because I thought, I thought, I mean, some people, I have small number.

I'm sure that's what they want, that's what they like. Fine, great. But to say that that's a sort of something they're going to find, you know, commonly when they go to that environment, that's not good. You're going to limit who comes in. It isn't. And there's been an increase of young women even joining these Catholic singles groups, conservative organizations.

And it's like, yay, you want to see young people return to the faith. You want to see young people return to like morality and traditional values and be seeking wisdom from from others, right? But the downside is I'm hearing from young women that they go into these groups thinking this is low-hanging fruit. I'm going to be able to find a spouse here. And then within those groups, there's an increase of these young men with Tate-like philosophies that of their, you know, women deserve or women don't deserve.

I want you to really pay attention when you go to these college campuses because I don't find these guys? They're out there. Obviously. They come to my events. They tell me I should be at home. They are typically anti-Semitic. They are typically, it's weird how they tout like a religious or moral philosophy, but then also feel this other way about women. But they are, I cannot accept that they're not just a tiny little percentage that, you know, when you encounter one, it feels like an army. Yeah. You know, I can't believe that there's more than a few. I think that it is definitely more than a few, but I am thankful that the trajectory of growth seems to be being tamped out by, I think, the right types of groups and religious activities

and churches and pastors and priests that are like, this is not, this is not belong here and this is not the ideology of. So there is, but there's still, it still lingers in some parts. And I think that those young men and young women, right? Like, it can very quickly easily plant, and I'm afraid of it, planting the liberal feminist progressive seeds of distrust in young conservative Christian women, that they then become like men haters because of the men that they are encountering. No, that's what I'm saying, this backlashing one way than the other.

Which is why I think it's all CCP propaganda. I truly do. That's my conspirator. That's my conspiratorial. Everything we can't explain to CCP, trust me. It's just that. But you sound like my wife. She's like become acutely paranoid about the Chinese Communist Party.

And, you know, during COVID, we talked to a lot of scientists and things who had worked on the COVID backbone. The, and they were working for the People's Liberation Army. Well, look at even Abigail Shrier and Jonathan Haidt when they talk about the contagion of the trans movement or the LGBT movement or eating disorders or even suicidality. where did that come from? TikTok, young people feeling disenfranchised and completely alone and isolated that went to social media and had people that I think really do exist somewhere, maybe even within the walls of the United States or the borders of the United States, saying, hey, you should look into this thing. And we now know it's declassified for three plus years now that the CCP was pushing that narrative because they know that they can't, you know, actually steal our elections,

but they know that they can create unrest and distrust and have a cold. cultural impact on what happens in America, and it was detrimental to our young women. So your wife and I agree on this. I think Russians might be involved in that, too. Maybe. Were you at the, I told Dave Rubin last week, I said, dude, it's been too long before he came west and did a swore for everybody. I agree.

Were you at the one that Gelsreier was at? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that was one of the ones. Yep. And then there was some. Yeah, that was an interesting group. I mean, are we allowed to talk about who was at or who were at some of those gatherings?

I don't know, I guess. I don't see why not. I mean, they were, they were clandestine in the same. sense that it was during lockdown and we were all like fuck this so but who are you thinking of when you when you say that oh oh um others other people that have podcasts and and lots of money listen if fouchy if we're going to read his diary you guys can tell us who was at this party who is who is that i mean i mean prager and his wife of course yep and um gail was sitting across from me yep uh you were at the other end of the table so i didn't get to

There was also, yeah, there was another one where Marissa Strite, obviously at Prager You and her husband Noah were there. There was one with, I will just say, somebody that everybody would know from a different podcast with a lot of other billionaires. There were a few unnamed people, like people that cannot be named that are not outed, I think, of sorts. I don't even know who you're talking about. I'll tell you all there. I feel so naive. I feel so naive, but I've been at various things with the, with the, I've been at another thing with the billionaire. I don't think you were at that one though.

No, that was a much smaller deal. That was the only time I ever met him. Are we allowed to guess? Hmm? Yes, please. J.K. Rolling. I wish. Dude, I would have taken a selfie with her and blown that up.

Are you kidding me? Love her. And another one, like another kind of like person that is traditionally progressive. but it's just makes sense on the on the women's like the issue of like women's rights and women's issues I was recently in Boulder for some meetings and I passed a store and I ended up going in because it was literally called title nine and it was all women's only athletics and I was like and and they were like oh yeah we get randomly without even telling me or knowing who I was like they were like you know we get a lot of hate actually from some people on the on the campus because of our store

And I'm like, mind blown, like 20 years ago, feminists would have been lauding the place. And now, like, because of the trans movement and all this stuff, they're pissed at a Title IX store. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Have you interviewed Tish Hyman? No, I have not. I've read some of it.

She's the one that got kicked out of Gold's gym for taking issue. She is fantastic. Yeah. All right. I want to describe to you something that I hope you will take into your college events. Okay. As an instrument of experimentation. Okay.

So I did tons of colleges in the late 90s, 2000s, and then suddenly nobody could go to colleges, at least if you're an old white man. You weren't allowed. They tried to kick me out too. And I was very concerned at the time about the hookup culture, which I see coming up again as an issue. Really specifically random hookups, right? And I would, you know, I'd be talking in every room. And the rooms were big. Sometimes there'd be, you know, six, eight hundred kids in there.

And I would say, you know, if the random hookup is the organizing experience of your social life in colleges, The hookup culture is the coolest thing. It's the greatest thing. Why do you have to be loaded to do it? Why do you have to be fucked up? Because the data is clear. When somebody's hooking up, they're wasted. That's the way it is.

And so I'd go, hold on a second. I go, young man, why are you, why do you have to be wasted? And the men, hands go up immediately. And they're like, oh, my God, I'm anxious. I can get rejected. I can hurt somebody. I mean, this is, I really, really, really want to do this. I want to do it.

And it's a lot to manage. And so I make sure that I've got sort of liquid courage. You know, they talk like that. Okay, so fine. They all men, same exact motivation, same reason. Okay. So I then asked the women, I go, okay, you've heard the men. What's your reason for being so wasted?

Silence. It takes a while before any woman will answer. Oftentimes, one will. with some bravado like, oh, I get loaded too. So I, you know, I beer goggles. I, okay, yep, women do do that. And then silence again. And then always somewhere in the first third, like the middle two fifths, right in the middle usually, women will raise her hand and go, well, I drink to make sure I don't have any feelings about this. And I thought, excuse me, you don't have feelings. Tell us more about that. Well, I mean, I could get attached and I could have feelings and it

could be intense and I don't. And there's something wrong with me. So I'd make sure that I don't have those feelings. I don't want to be, I don't be that kind of woman. I'd make sure I can't seem to control them any other way. Having heard, I let my guard down or love someone before I give them my body. Yeah. So then the room really goes silent. And I'll go, well, that's different than what the men were saying, right? That's very different. I mean, they didn't say anything about feelings. They were interested in not being so anxious about getting this thing done. You're talking about something that happens. And then I go, how sad is it that something innate and genuine about you as a woman has to be suppressed? 100%. In order to keep up with this artificial thing that you think you ought to be,

You feel flawed if you can't do it and have a feeling. What a pathetic thing. And then now the room will light up a little bit. And then I go, well, look, what if, is there a way I could create something that would work for you? What would it have to look like to be good for you? Every single room, 200 times. Sometimes it's the woman I was just talking to. Someone lays a hand and go, well, I wish a guy would just sit down and talk to me.

And I'm like, what the fuck does talk you have to do with sex? What are you talking about? And then I, you know, get them to talk about their experience. And they would not have to be loaded to do that. And I point out there's all this good data that shows that in females, you can motivate desire through intimate conversation. That's well established. So are you familiar?

The feminist will destroy you for, for suggesting that. Of course, heaven forbid, because the feminist movement has said that men are kind of sexual deviance and therefore women should be too. And then women feel less empowered or they feel like they have this peer pressure and societal pressure of being more empowered if they can have the one night stand and act just like the dude. When even secularist data consistently shows how short-term relationships, even if they're monogamous or consistent one-night stands and hookup culture is horrible for female psyche and even for young men. I think sometimes the assumption from people is like, well, yeah, men are different. Men are kind of pigs. So therefore,

they can have sex with whoever. And it doesn't affect them. But they are. Yeah, men can get attached. Men get attached. And men really worry about hurting people. Yeah. They like, don't want to do that. And that's why they're withdrawn so much in this current environment because they're like, I'm a bad person. I don't care. I don't want to be that. I would tell me how to be good. Yeah. And it is kind of fascinating. that like women should be able to once again have a standard of you have to get to know me before you can you know what me and I think that and then that men who have that desire I think most of them not to hurt a young woman have to then step up and pursue her have to you know make

sure have you heard about this thing like called the ick yes the ick factor and I think that sometimes young men are afraid like well if I talk to her first she's going to get the ick Right? Yeah, yeah. But actually, that's how women are able to determine whether or not they can emotionally and then physically attach themselves to you is it's more than just, I mean, this is where I think women are the greater sex. Is it sometimes you get a really hot chick with a not so hot dude and it ain't because

he's got a black card and he's rich. Like women are attracted to more and I think some often deeper levels of who a human is than sometimes dudes. it's like scanning a room, she's a 10 going after that one, right? Yeah, no, that's very, very well established to be true. Right. But not because they're pigs, right? Oh, yeah.

That's how their priority. That's how the motivational system is wired out. Yes. And they're capable of more. And they require women to be able to do that more, to be more. And, you know, and then in that room that I'm speaking, I'll always go, well, geez, we used to call that dating. You're talking about a date, for God's sake.

And so, yes, that is. And by the way, then I point out how healthy it is to, to converse with somebody and to have intimate exchange and to decide what you want, who you are, how you fit with other people. I mean, it's hugely healthy. And they've obfuscated the whole thing. It's really pathetic when you get down to it. It's terrible.

I wonder, and I haven't looked into the data of this, but I wonder if, and I feel like anecdotally in our life, I'm aware of men having sexual affairs and women having emotional affairs. Yeah, well, that's a whole thing. Yeah. That's a whole area of research that even, Even in the, so what that, the people hate the unfortunate reality of evolutionary psychology. It exists. We evolved with certain kinds of systems.

You differ from me, Alicia, by an entire chromosome. We both differ from bonobo monkeys by about 300 base pairs, far less than an entire chromosome. So let's, let's accept that there are differences. And some of that difference evolved in terms of our. our relationship with hierarchy and our relationships with, you know, other female peers. And there's all these different things that have evolved over time. And what was you said they just triggered me to talk about this? The differences between the two?

Well, you know what? We'll continue the science lesson because I do want to find out more about this, the emotional versus the sexual when it comes to male and female. That's what we were talking about this. We'll get right back to it when we are done with this break. Bet Online. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla show. The next big football moments, well, they're waiting for you at Bet Online.

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All right, we're back. And now I remember what I was going to talk about. Is that the male's motivational system and the reason it is so, fierce around did you have sex with the guy or not, right? Like crazy, crazy lunatic, violent sort of feelings are triggered in men. Because throughout human history, the only way to guarantee paternity was to stand vigil at the vagina to make sure nobody else, nobody other's material got in there. so you could be sure that the child that you were going to invest all this time and energy and resources into was yours.

The women has no such concern, right? There's not even, she knows it's hers. She provided the egg and the father thing is a secondary issue. So the male system evolved. I mean, think about the males that were reproducing back in the day. They were violent and they would, you know, they would blot over. So we evolved in such a way to be more and more and more like that over time. And the female did not, did not.

And so the kinds of things that the female brain, which I agree with you as a more evolved brain, and Adam still gives me shit about that. Because I, he calls it now Chick-Think and he blames me for the ascendancy of Chick-Think. Because I early in the 90s was saying, you know, the female brain, they use much more of their brain. It's much more. We need more of that brain. have more EQ, I think. Do you know that statistically female CEOs, their employees are happier and more loyal and more productive?

It's, I see mixed data on that, actually, because there's a lot of other things that get in the way of that in these days. But be that as it may. You have this huge corpus callosum so you can communicate with the right side of the brain and the right side of the brain is the more holistic, the more bodily based, the more attuned into the environment. and the spirit, all that is accessible to you and not so much to us. It's often the distance. It's just true. Yeah. And so Adam blames me for the ascendancy of that brain. And that's the other part of this for the female.

A lot of it has evolved to be able to, you know, know what a child is experiencing without language and sort of explicit sort of communication. And I don't know about your husband, but all I can do is walk behind my wife, How did you know that? How did you know that? What? What do you want what? How do you know that? So that happens for sure. And the other thing is women transmit culture. They do it somewhat through gossip. But they also, their violence is ostracism. Hmm. It's tribal. It's cliquy. Gathering together. Ostracizing one. That's very dangerous back at the surveillance.

Anna, a female that was, a child that was ostracized from the group would die. The hyenas would eat them. So this kind of need to be along and to share information, to share culture and child rearing practices and all these things, this is your brain. This is your brain. And by the way, not to say that we, and I'm, I bring this stuff up to say that these are predominant patterns in the systems of the central nervous system and the autonomic. nervous system too. And we can train ourselves to develop other parts. And that's what's really important

to understand. You know, the genetic hand you're given is not destiny. But if you ignore it and pretend it's not there, you can't do it. You can't. You're going to you're going to fuck up. You're going to, it's going to step in. While if you, you know, acknowledge it, use it, develop around it and stuff, then you'll be good. But that goes back to what we were talking about in the last couple of segments about like kind of progressive feminism, young men on campus and this kind of like male versus female what's happening in the dating world situation. It's like a young man in my mind that might be addicted to pornography and also obsessed with Andrew Tate is not a total loss, right?

A young woman who can maybe potentially fall for the Instagram algorithm that says Lindsay Clancy is a hero and not a triple murderer is not a total loss. loss, that there are ways in which we can speak truth and dialogue with those people to get them back to our side. And I think that I do have hoped that broadly, most people just want to live a normal life. They don't want to be a part of like the far left or the far right. They want to be a part of that anthropological like tribe that you just talked about where we're all working together cohesively to survive and hopefully, hopefully thrive.

And it's like if they're already coming into those groups, that they're already listening to shows like this and there's like seeds planted that we can hopefully reap and reach them. Well, I certainly hope so as well, but I will tell you that I saw this coming. And I worked in a psychiatric hospital for 30 years and I watched the predominance of narcissistic psychopathology come in. I watched it. And when it, and Adam and I would, back in the 90s on the radio, we would talk to every second call was a young person who had been sexually abused, physically abused, neglected. I mean, it was drug addict parents. It was massive. And I kept going, oh, this is going to, something's going to happen here. This is this is not, you don't just walk, you know, you don't not change. The populace is not changed by this epidemic of child abuse. And again, I started seeing it walking through the door of the psych hospital where it became predominantly sociopath, borderline, severe narcissism, all, everything was cluster B diagnosis, everything.

And that was new. It wasn't like that in the 80s. And I started looking around through history to try to figure out what that's going to mean. And what I found was that you're going to, that like pre-revolutionary France was another period like this. And you're going to find mobs and scapegoating. And that's what we see now, right? The social media moms. I didn't know about social media, but social media mobs.

And then the scapegoating is the cancellation. And it's very difficult. to get these people to stop this behavior. It is really difficult. I hope you're right that you can get them gaffed on board into something more moderate, but they actually become invested in a worldview and a social group that shares that worldview.

And to change it is very, very difficult for them. I think now, especially because it's like you don't just walk outside of your home and you're exposed to something else. You don't have to leave your home and all of your... predisposed like confirmation bias is available on your phone. Yeah, the bubble.

And you are in your own bubble. Well, and you mentioned the porn. You mentioned the porn, though. That's a massive problem right now, porn addiction. And that's coming from the childhood sexual abuse and the early exposure to pornography. 11 years old. I mean, they're exposed nine now. Nine is sort of more common.

Yeah, it's crazy. Well, and I mean, you have to blame, I think, a lack of. morality and culture for that too. That's like, oh, no, it's totally fine. It's normal. There's an article recently. It's weird. It's just available to everybody. And it's free. I remember, you know, back again, around 2010 or so all the sex positive people, oh my God. I was like, oh my God, they're going to do so much damage. Like, I don't want to hear anything that anything is objectionable about sexuality. It's like, wait a minute, there are addictions. There are things, there are destructive behaviors. They really are. Especially when you have young men specifically viewing

porn and then by the time they're like 11 or 12 years old asking another tween for sexting images that duplicate like what they have seen in porn and then having their first sexual encounters unlike the good young men that are like afraid of hurting women like no I want to hurt women because that's what I saw they're they're they are not they are not moving away from the pornography to the real world at most they're going to the prostitutes that's what they do and the sexting I think kids are aware that that's a felony It's a felony to ask for it. It's a felony to receive it.

And it's a felony to send it. And it's a different felony every time you show a friend. I don't know that they actually know that, though, because in how many schools across the country, has there actually been a kid? Thankfully, the case law is there. Thankfully, like, the laws on the books are there. But I think that your average 11 or 12-year-old with a phone doesn't actually know that that can ruin the rest of their life. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

And to be fair, I think they're prosecuting all that a lot less than they used to. Well, I'm also like pro. I'm with Jonathan Haidt when it comes to the social media bans. 100%. I'm a very small government-minded conservative, but I'm like, if you're going to say that a homeless person can't be nude on the street shooting up in front of a school, then we should also say maybe we shouldn't have 14-year-old girls with access to TikTok. It certainly should be, I think pretty much everybody agrees it should be, highly restricted and it just has no place in a scholastic environment, that's for sure.

100%. So I don't know. So, okay. This has been an interesting conversation so far and we only have six minutes left. Oh my God. We've solved all the world's problems. So let's talk shit about Adam again. Let's just do that.

Where is he, by the way? Where in the world is Adam? I know he's coming here. He's coming here tomorrow. Oh, fun. And he was, I have to go to Austin and my wife's going to. to stay in New York and he was very pissed at me that he couldn't stay in my apartment here. In New York City, he's gotten very used to this.

He's using it like his apartment. I was just in New York. Next time I'm there, I'll give you all a ring. And then your wife and I can talk about TikTok and the CCP. Oh, no, she's way down the road with the CCP. And, you know, it's interesting, I want to get into the, I don't have time to do this, but I want to get into the mnemonic place. plague thing. I probably will have to get more into it again on the next show, you and I do together.

But at least Russia is being somewhat transparent about the accident and what they're doing about it. They're not really talking about it, you know, that much, which is probably fine because the press will make a freaking meal out of it and try to panic everybody. And shut down the schools again. What's that? And shut down schools again. Yeah. And the CCP still hasn't reconciled, hasn't given us the opportunity to, call them, you know, hold them accountable for what happened here.

And let's be clear. They, they owe the world an apology for God's sakes. But Andrew, you had a question about the demonic plague? Yeah, I just want to know, I just want to gauge your anxiety about this. If you have anything. I'm not worried. I love it. I'm not worried.

But that doesn't mean. That answer would be non-existent. But it doesn't mean it's not a worry, right? I mean, the fact that Russia is locking things down, our State Department is taking very seriously. I think that's a great idea. I think that's the public health. That's what they're supposed to do. It's supposed to protect us from this and not panic us about it.

From a non-medical professional point of view, I just want to know why are there so many of these anti-plague and, you know, coronavirus institutes scattered throughout the country? Because these are the modern versions of mutually assured destruction. This is the non-nuclear alternative. And so I promise you, we have the same demonic plague on our labs. China's got it in theirs. Everybody's got this kind of demonic plague. I'm certain. Do we have these institutes in the United States or do we have them abroad?

I mean, the whole thing with Fauci is that he had his friend in North Carolina fund overseas to be able to do the stuff mostly in the Ukraine. that we, that President Obama prohibited from being done here. But we're still doing it. We're still funding it. It's all part of our stuff. I don't know. I think there's stuff here.

How can there not be stuff here? Well, there was a, there's a place in like Montana, I think it is, that may have brought us Lyme disease. Interestingly. Is that why it's so prevalent right now? I feel like one out of ten people I know, anecdotal, but in my personal life, I know so many people now that are suffering from Lyme disease? Well, it has a tendency to spread.

You know, it was pretty isolated for a long time, but it's kind of spreading a bit. And it's way over-diagnosed also. Oh. And it's easily preventable from going from the rash, the chronicom migraum's rash. I forget the name of it, the erythema. chronic of migraines to the arthritis and everything else are taking antibiotic right away. Interesting. It really kind of prevents it.

So you're saying that it's overdiagnosed like it could be another autoimmune or kind of like inflammation disease. There are hammers and only see a nail. And that's been going on for a long time. Not to say that there also aren't people that are quite expert in this. I mean, it's a devastating time. And I'm not saying it doesn't exist. It's devastation when it does exist.

It's really miserable. Okay, so with very difficult to treat. With two minutes left, now we are seeing in Los Angeles, there's this like mosquito vector group that will come out if you enter in your address because mosquitoes are like rampant here right now. Yeah. And they're- Mosquitoes are exploding. But what about West Nile? West Nile, equine virus, emcephalitis, these things are around and well.

So you wear your mosquito repellus. But the thing that we have a problem with is rats and fleas. And we are going to see, I'm going to talk about this next show. We have a, we're in the middle of a typhus outbreak, which is endemic. Yes. That's like an 1800s disease. Correct. And what follows typhus is bubonic plague.

And that has been making its way over. And we have outlawed rodenticides. And we have these huge encampments where there are absolutely overwhelmed with rats. And so we're going to get these endemic illnesses because we're not doing the governing required for a civilization. Okay. Well done, California. Well done, Los Angeles.

Oh, Lord have mercy. So I have to be afraid. Well, I guess I don't have to be afraid of West Nile because I'm not pregnant. Isn't it more, like, dangerous in old people and pregnant women? I mean, obviously it's very serious then. But no, no, we have mosquito-borne illnesses that are quite serious. And we have a dingy is endemic for the first time in Southern California. I know this might not be politically correct, but these are all like old, like 100-year-old, you know,

kind of like old book, fictional or third world. That was I was going to say. The third word or medieval. And we have become a medieval. We're both in Los Angeles. We're medieval and third world. The third world countries would never put up with this. And New York. Don't leave New York out of this.

They would never put up with what we do in Los Angeles. But how are we doing on time here? We are about to wrap. So I guess we're going to get into the bubonic plague and all these other medieval kind of Charles Dickens level diseases next time. Prince Pre Dickens. We're talking just pre-Tudor England. We're talking about real bullshit here.

And they should be embarrassed. Call yourself a governing body. All right. So check out doctor.com for me. Do a streaming show Tuesday and Thursday, typically, 2 o'clock Pacific time. Check that on a rumble. Elisha, where should we find you? You can find me over on YouTube at the Abe News Network, obviously Adam Corolla show and Daily Wire for my op-eds.

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