The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2108 - Mamdani Bashes ICE & John Leguizamo Cries AGAIN! | Part 2

Episode Date: October 16, 2026

Dr. Drew brings up reports surrounding James Talarico’s recent absence, and he and Adam react to a clip of New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani saying ICE is “rotten to its core.” Drew then asks Adam for his take on the controversial “Cornell 7” story, which leads into a broader discussion about ways society has done women a disservice. The episode wraps with Adam and Drew reacting to a viral clip of John Leguizamo getting emotional during a speech.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, got to get in the judgment, Dr. Drew, board-certified specialist over there in Florida, don't you know? Yeah, buddy. Here I be. Hey, we have not, a couple things you and I have not talked about. first of all, did you hear this whole

Tala Rico thing where he's maybe in a psych hospital, maybe not, maybe he's never been to Ohio, we don't know. Again, I sort of put this in the same category as hurricanes hitting Los Angeles. I don't know, I don't believe a damn thing in the press anymore, but it's interesting to at least note that they have not said

where he has been for a couple of weeks. Yeah, well, you tell me a flu for a young male of average weight? He also, no, zero probability. He also has... Sorry, not zero probability of getting a flu, zero probability of being down for two weeks. Incapacitated in the middle of a campaign.

I mean, you have to be down, right? I mean, you're a lot of people relying on you. You're, you know, you're down. What's an average... What's an average flu length? For a healthy person, three to five days. Okay. For an elderly patient, you can get a little bit longer, or even a lot longer,

you have complications and things. But it's for an adult, you know, young male. But look at him. Can you just play maybe some video of him, B-roll, just not, no sound? And Adam, I'm wondering if you notice anything, or maybe you could say without even looking at pictures of him, unusual about his face. It is facial sort of features, his expressions, that sort of thing.

Does anything jump out at you about that? I don't, first off, it's an, I don't know, I don't know if he's interesting, but there's something about that guy has all these kind of notions, and I don't know why those notions are important when it comes to making policy. You know, we're getting way into, this guy cares deeply about the community and the indigenous community. Like, I wondered caring deeply about this group or that group. You know, what about just some, you know, basic stuff has to do with sewers? You know what I mean?

That little sequence right there. Just this. Look at anything on his face. There's something kind of affects me. I'm wondering if you notice it. It's a lot of back and side face. Yeah, it's hard to say because it's cutting so fast. So maybe that's part of what they're going for.

He looks like a nine-year-old to me. Yeah, yeah. And, but I don't know. There's something, I mean, he's, well, he looks like a, he looks like a woman who's essentially posing as a man. Is what his face looks like. Oh, there, look at his face there. Look at that.

I mean, just sort of, he has a waxen quality to it, right? Isn't there sort of a, you know, like, particularly from like the nose up, there's not a lot of expression, movement. And it's hard to do that normally. Medications do that. And it makes me one, first time when I saw him, I thought, is he on meds or something? What is this? I'm not sure.

This is as animated as he gets. This is him at his best. Come on now. But if you see him just sort of talking at a city, you know, at a town hall, you see him, and you're like, what, that's not, something's up here. All right. What? There's something appears to be wrong with him, but I don't know if it's his face or it's just

what he'll say whatever, right? He'll say whatever. He'll say it. Yes, but, you know, it's like he talks about religion and when he's not talking about religion, he's talking about drag queens. And I'm like, I don't really care about. either one of those subjects. I just want to really get back into like infrastructure or taxes or something. You know what I mean? Like what I want to, it's, it's weird that like I want to hear,

you know, like when Trump goes, we're going to do the Trump accounts. Everyone who signs up is going to get $1,000 and it's going to be tax free and it's going to compound. And by the time you're 18, it's going to be $51,000. And by the time you're 37, it's going to be $121. And I was like, yes, Yes, just stuff, just stuff. I don't know about the community and the trans community and how they must feel the pain and they're scared. And I even know, ICE is coming to their community and people are frightened, frightened to go to school, frightened to go to work. Who? Why?

Why would you? Unless you're here illegally. And they're terrorizing. And it's like, why weren't they afraid during the Obama raids with ICE? Different thing. Different thing. I saw somebody somebody heard something really interesting. that they went, they were, somebody compared Reagan and Trump, and somebody went, well, you know, the

dislike of Reagan, the people that didn't like Reagan, didn't like his policy, but nobody ever said, hey, Trump's a bad guy, but he's so boring. Reagan, say the word, Reagan. What? Did I not say Reagan? No, see, you hurt in your storm. He said Trump. Oh, okay.

So no one ever said Reagan is a bad guy. He, he's unpleasant. they just didn't like his policy. Trump is the exact opposite. They don't even notice his policies. They don't like him. And also, we've shifted from policy to feelings. Right.

So we had a different era. And now it's just a bunch of fucking men who think like chicks and chicks who think like chicks. And they're just fucking running around screaming at everybody. They even know what they're saying anymore. But they're going to do, you know, it's that same thing. It's like, oh, this has to end. this craziness. It's crazy. I can't sleep at night. It's crazy. You guys make it crazy. It doesn't have to be crazy. Ice could just go about their jobs. You could let them do their job. But they have to, I think,

I had a tweet, Andrew, earlier today. It was Mandamne, and he was talking about ICE. And he was doing that thing that they all do, which is, but again, When you get divorced, this is what you'll get, too, some version of life that doesn't exist about how you act and what you reacted and what you did this and did that. You'll get some version of that when you get divorced. I mean, not if you're dealing with someone who has character, but if you're dealing with someone that doesn't have character like my ex, you'll just get this version of what you did and how you do it. You know what I mean? And it's like, I don't know if they're lying. I don't know if they believe it.

I think they repeat it enough so that they just kind of it is. You know what I mean? And you thought computers, but also videotape. Like Trump never said to inject bleach. It's all you can use your phone. You can find that clip in 40 seconds. Why do you keep saying this thing? And this is Menominee and he's just talking about ice.

and how they operate. And I'm like, I have no idea what he's talking about. But that's what world he lives in. What world he lives in, yes. We know that ICE is rotten to its core. Today's shooting is only further devastating confirmation of what we have long known, which is that ICE operates with impunity. All right, hold on.

What's he mean we've long known that they're, first off, I could say the IRS is rotten to its core. Yeah. I don't know what that means. ICE, everybody, the people that work for ICE or the front office. There's a lot of women and a lot of like Hispanics and minorities that work for ICE. They're rotten to their core. All right.

Anyway, we've known it for a long time. Feels like it's pretty new to me. ICE has been around for a while. I haven't heard anything about it. Tom Holman, it's a second go-round. He was decorated in a previous administration. Yes, by Obama. All right.

Anyway, I, rotten to the core, killing, here we go. It's with impunity that they sow chaos and terror across our country that they have told far more of our neighbors than they could ever have claimed to save. All right. Hold on. They've killed far more of our neighbors. Everyone's a neighbor. I do love when like the Sunny Haustins of the world, like these are our neighbors.

These are the people we do. Unhoused nays. You do. You do sunny. You know illegals. You hang out with the illegals or they mow your fucking lawn, bitch. You don't fucking hang out with these people. They're not your neighbors.

They don't sit next you at church. All right. So ICE has killed far more of these people than these people have killed whom? American citizens? I don't think that's statistically going to work out. Do you? No. You turn on the news every day.

There's an illegal that killed. American. You turn on the news every once in a while and there's an ice guy that killed not an illegal, but American citizen who was either wrestling with ice or blocking him with their van or whatever the fuck it, whatever it is this time. You know what I mean? And or the illegal guy who fled in the car, blah, blah, blah, blah, with the warrants or whatever. I want to hear the rest of his shit. So what is ISIS rotten to the core. They kill. They always, I love the the with impunity. They just do whatever they want. Right. By the way,

if they get to why not just kill every illegal alien? Why do we, why we, why the expense of deportation, Drew, why don't we just shoot them? If you're operating with impunity, you should. I would say, let's let's really use our impunity

like, well, we just shoot them. Okay, but okay, so all right, we'll play it out, sorry. We know that ice is rotten to its court. Today's shooting is only further devastating confirmation of what we have long known, which is that ICE operates with impunity, that they sow chaos and terror across our country, that they have killed far more of our neighbors than they could ever have claimed to save. We know that ice is rotten to its core. So they know you reminds me of, remember when Akhman Dinojad used to be the mayor of Tehran? Yeah, Iran. And is he still even, he probably got vaporized in one of the early attacks on the rainy leadership.

But it just reminds me of how a mayor takes these wild international stands and how weird it sounded back then coming from a mayor of Tehran and how people don't think it's weird when New York mayor says crazy stuff that is not way outside of his jurisdiction. They've killed. They've killed false. more than who? Then the illegals have killed? It's such a, I don't know what the premise is. Then they could have saved. Oh, then they could have saved.

Mm-hmm. They couldn't have saved any citizens. There's no, I don't know, he picks a number that can't be proven. Right. Yeah, okay. Anyway, he's a fucking radical nut job. But this thing,

Oh, what? Mahmoud is still alive. It doesn't have a job right now, according to the internet. All right. So I don't know, and by the way, the showing the fear and the chaos and all that's stuff. That's you assholes going out in wrestling with them. That's not, if you leave them alone and let them do their job, then there won't be the fear and the chaos. But also, much like everything, there is never.

an alternative to whatever our plan is. Your plan is just let illegals and leave alone in whatever city they're in. Well, no ice thing come in too. They've got to be able to let in. Yes. I mean, they want to let in more illegals. Yeah. Yes. Sure. Open our doors. Welcome them in. Yeah, there's this great, I love when they do the A and the B, but there's this Trudeau. Trudeau made a statement in 22 basically going like we brought in 450,000 and we're going to bring in even more in the next few years. And then at some point, two years later, he writes a thing. He goes, we're going to have to pause this for a while, while we recover. And what we get our, he literally went, first one is from 2022, he's going, we're bringing in a whole bunch and we'll look forward even more because that's how ever, that's what makes Canada work.

And at some point he just goes, we have to pause this because there's too much strain on our system and we need to, you know, work our stuff out so we can't bring anybody in for a while. It's like, what strain on the system? You said this was a good thing. Right. How could a good thing be straining? If these are the people that are doing all the work and building, you know, if the Somalians built Minnesota will then bring in more Somalians so they can build Wisconsin. in other neighboring states. You know what I mean?

Yeah. We got to get more Mexicans in L.A. so we can build and do and sell more food on the street. The fucking people are talking about. Anyway, it's not their fault. It's whoever voted for them.

That's the problem. That's where we're at. Hey, we have not, I don't think, spoken about that Cornell 7 thing. That, uh, mm-hmm. I wonder, I just don't know your thoughts on that. I do, I have this thought, thinking about it when I was driving home.

When I did a bit on Kimmel Show and my character was named Colonel Duke LaCross, and I'd like to pair Colonel Duke LaCross with Dr. Cornell 7. And I think you could introduce them at a party and people wouldn't exactly know what you're talking about. If you waited six months, you waited six months, and you threw a cocktail party, and, you know, one of your friends would stand there, you'd go, oh, I'd like to meet my friend, he's colleague, Dr. Cornel Seven. And they'd go, oh, are you at St. Joseph's? Where are you? And then you go, and that's Colonel Ducler Cross. And they'd go, thank you for your service. And we could have a conversation with Dr. Cornell Seven and Colonel Ducle Cross. I love it. I don't, you'd have to wait about six months. And then I think we'd pull off. All right, but take a quick break.

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Stream now, they never. All right. So, this, I don't have super strong thoughts about this. It's got to be sorted out, and I will follow it where it goes. I have a problem with Letitia James and Kathy Hockel and the usual suspects coming out and making proclamations in advance. You know, that's a problem. That seems like a miscarriage of justice fundamentally. Well, like Lettisa James, she ran on a campaign platform four years ago of, I don't know what Donald Trump has done, but I'm going to find something.

Right. And it's like, really? That's what you want. You want your top cop, the prosecutor of a city this size. You want her saying, I don't know that this citizen's done anything wrong, but I'm going to find something. and I will fuck him up. Like that's a weird. Also very chicky.

And by the way, very black. It's very black. It's also, give me the man. I'll find the crime. It's kind of black chick, too. It's like,

don't say that into a microphone, Dumbo. You sound dumb. You know what I mean? Like, that's like, it's a weird, you know, DEI sort of impunity thing.

Like I can say whatever I fucking want. Like, remember when, uh, remember when what's her name? He's trying to railroad Trump. And she was up on the, stand. God, what was her name? The prosecutor from Maryland, Minnesota. She's up there and they're like,

is it true? You're drinking champagne on a cruise ship? No, I like vodka. Oh, yeah. I like me some vodka. Oh my gosh. What was her name? God. Fannie, Fannie Willis, I think. Yeah, there's another fucking mess. Like, shut your mouth. But you realize, Drew, these women, you know, powerful women of color, they've sailed through their adult life without everyone go, hey, bitch, shut up. You don't know what you're talking about. Shut up. They would never say that to them, right?

So they don't have a governor. All the politicians trying to make hay off this is nuts. I will wait and see where this thing goes. There's a thing where it's kind of like, you know, what these guys did was wrong. Does it rise to the level of criminal behavior? I don't know. but it's sounding like you're in some sort of world where you're going,

you know, just because it's a sin doesn't make it a felony. Right. Morality versus legal. Right. But listen, there's something that was exposed in this. I thought that was kind of interesting, which is, you know, we talked to young people for a long time about their behavior and their relationships. We did not intend what they're doing now.

We did not intend Cornell to be. endorsing all sorts of problematic behaviors. In other words, they really are passively, not passively, actively, you know, to give them documents on how to find pleasure and how to do this. It's like, look, how many talk about the reality of relationships? That's the part that they're leaving out. They leave out the fact that alcohol and drugs are involved in every adverse outcome. They endorse, they passively endorse behavior that is pathological and dame.

dangerous and they do nothing to address it. They go, hey, hey, maybe not drink so much. Anyway, enjoy the party. It's like, it's really wild. Well, yeah, and then there's a lot of, I mean, we've done women a disservice by trying to empower them and, you know, putting them in all these positions, you know. It's just, there was a way that society worked and it worked for a long time. And then we decided we're going a different direction.

and it's not helping. And, well, I just worry about how they treat each other. I mean, some of that is the fact that our biology is shifted. And all of a sudden, we have control of our fertility and STDs and things like that for the most part. And it, of course, changes behavior and changes morality a little bit. But it is denying how people actually experience themselves in relationships and in these experiences. And that's why somebody can look back at something they did and go, oh, I was raped. You know, as a, you might, as a male in particular,

might go, how's it, how's it possible? How's that? They, just what she was inviting. This is what she wanted. I understand. But because it's so unrealistic what they're being encouraged to do. Yes. It ends up like that.

Yep. Now I know. Later in the week, we're going to have Dr. Cornell 7 come in. He's going to comment on this. And Colonel Duke lacrosse is actually told, A security, but we can mic him up and see what I say. Yeah, I mean, look, I'll sit around and wait. By the way,

Yeah, we need the facts, of course. My least, I heard a guy doing commentary on this. I don't know why. I guess there's a lot of people just don't have a lot to say, but there's a microphone in front of him, but I heard a guy commenting on it. And he was a professional, and he's like, look, I am going to wait to comment.

on this. I'm going to wait. You want to know why? I wasn't there. And neither were you. So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to wait. It's like, bitch, you said it four times. You just keep fucking saying the same thing. All right, Drew. Yeah. Now on to John Legazamo. Okay. Who's I These guys He's he I don't know if you saw him

Given a speech But he was crying I guess He wants more roles for more I am so Enamored with any black woman Who never stops talking about being a black woman And wanting more roles for

And by the way if a black woman stabs anybody They'll just go I'm for her Like goes She's black And then John Ligazama He'll get up In front of the you know

The of Hispanic whatever for television and cinema and just get up there and just shill for Hispanic roles nonstop like it's it's it's it's the height of boring to me I think if I it feels boring but let's listen to us in passion whatever and I will not be finished until every Latin child in this country can turn on a screen yes a disability I think when a light I mean, if that's going to make it right. Also, can I say this? I work and have work with a lot of Latino guys.

They're just not, they're not as interested in being on TV as black guys are. Hmm. Not into it. But you know who else isn't that into it? Asians. They're not that into it. But. As a percentage-wise on a percentage basis.

Yeah. Yeah, they like boxing better than they like doing standard. On a percentage. Yeah. But I remember, I saw Sharon Stone speak once about some, there's an HIV sort of thing. And this reminds me exactly of how she did her presentation. Exactly. This must be an actor thing.

All right. Well, we'll see. I think there's some more. When a Latin child in this country can turn on a screen. Fuck, I want to be cool. like you too, Judy. I know we're Latino, we get emotional. When a land child in this country can turn on a screen and see their own face, their own name, their grandma's accent, not getting arrested, not dying in minute nine, just living, just being a whole person, that's the dream.

It's an embarrassingly small one. Nobody knows. They have made us fight over it for over a hundred years. So keep creating. Keep failing forward. And don't ever let anybody quiet your voice. Including the one inside your head telling you that you're not good enough. That voice is a fucking liar and it doesn't know what the hell is talking about. Thank you. Grasciz, Aualita. That's twice. Thank you. All right. So anyway, that voice, I love all the talk about, like when Kamala Harris does the, when you don't feel powerful, then you're not powerful. Then you're not powerful. When you feel powerful, shut the fuck up, the voice that I wish people had that more, I wish everyone's voiced inside their head was louder who doubted them. Yeah. I get around people

can't do anything all the fucking time. Less esteem. Less esteem. Let's get less esteem. Let's get less esteem in their people. I can't tell you the number of people that think they can do shit and they're bad at it. So let's fucking do it. Yes, we should. You shouldn't listen to that little voice. You should never doubt yourself, Drew, and you should always feel powerful. Oh, God. You should feel powerful all the time. And you know how you know you're powerful?

Because you think you're powerful. Because you're you're you. You're the best. And you're wow, wow, wubsy. That's right. You're powerful because you feel powerful. And you know what? If you feel beautiful, then you're beautiful.

See that, Drew? That's how that works. You should feel beautiful and powerful. as a woman I feel powerful and I feel beautiful how about that? It's like hey bitch

how about you just get my fucking coffee I'm in a rush but I'm powerful and I'm beautiful this is not this is no way to run a society feeling powerful let's think about that

because because we should be as you pointed out the last time we talked empathic and considerate and express to people your appreciation for them, but the person themselves should feel insecure, uncertain, judging, careful, you know, second guessing themselves, because that's how you get better.

Yes. I completely agree. Feeling powerful and beautiful is no way to run a society. What powerful and beautiful person is going to take the garbage out? You know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody should take the garbage. out, you know what I mean? Everyone's got to do that stuff.

Right, but when you feel beautiful and powerful, you know, you can't get Sharon Stone to take your garbage out. But even if you are accomplished, you take the garbage out. You know what I mean? That's a quality person, right? Not the person that says, hey, do you do it, bitch? No, no. No, I completely concur.

I always think it's good to clean your own toilet and empty garbage and, like, and do that kind of stuff. I don't really get not doing it. And I think there's definitely something in that, that ordinary misery you talk about. Yes. It needs to be. But even that's not even ordinary misery,

that sort of ordinary responsibility, ordinary self-care, ordinary kind of engagement in the world. Ordinary misery is just that, you know, you can't expect things to be great. You can't expect things to be given to you. You can't expect to feel powerful just because. That's not, that's, it's, it's a, some sort of weird hallucination.

Yeah, well, it's like, I was a young guy and I was interested in comedy, intuitively sort of just sort of basically gravitated toward comedy. And, you know, one of the big sitcoms when I was a kid was called Chico and the Man. And it had, Freddie Prince was on it. He was Chico. Must have been played by a white guy, though, right? Would have been nice, but it was played by a Latino guy. And I used to watch it.

And then, you know, I'd watch Sanford and Son. And I'd watch good times. And I'd watch all in the family. I watch everything. And, you know, I'd see there's plenty of white guys on TV, but there'd be other groups represented on TV. Only Asian on TV when we're coming up, Drew, who? George Chiquary?

Oh, that guy's such an asshole. What an asshole that guy is. I never watched Star Trek. I deem that shit. Was it a comedy show that he was on, whoever you were referred to? The rule. No, was a one hour primetime drama. Oh, you know what he was on.

There was an Asian guy on that cop show. Now, Barney Miller. Barney Miller. That was a sitcom. Okay, okay. One hour drama. One hour drama. Once I spit it out, Drew's going to give me some.

I was going to college. One hour drama with a great musical opening. Okay. And the guy played a doctor. not a cop. And it's the only Asian on TV, Drew. Can you give me a year approximately? You know, right in those years we're talking about, the 70s.

I was talking about 70s. I didn't say 88 to 92. No, you said when I was in school. No, not me. Right in those years, we always talk about late 70s. Asian doctor, Asian doctor. Tell me. I didn't say Asian doctor.

I said the show was about a doctor. It was primetime. And it was hour-long drama, and there was an Asian on that show. Was it a house or something? I didn't really watch these. By the way, if it's a doctor show, I didn't watch it. Intentionally, it drive me crazy. From 1999, house.

No, 70s. You are? I told you. No. That era. That era drew. Okay. Okay.

With a good music, can you sing me the song? Andrew, don't show Drew. I'm not seeing it. Andrew doesn't know what I'm talking about. I'm not seeing it. No music, yeah, okay. He doesn't, Andrew doesn't know what I'm talking about. Oh, he doesn't know either.

Why would he know? I feel dumb. Well, yeah, you're dumb, but Andrew's young. And Chuck is both. So he has zero chance of getting this. Oh. And you're going to be some bullshit excuse, but you're going to be out. Now, I said a doctor.

I didn't say what kind of doctor. No, I know. I get the hint. I'm scrolling through a lot of stuff in my head. There's not that much to scroll through. I'm going through the 70s. 70s. Probably 70s into the 80s.

But not common. I keep going to comedy. One hour, prime time, like ABC, Friday night, or whatever. You're giving me more. Come on, Drew. Maybe it's about a doctor who's actually a psychiatrist or psychologist or is it like. I didn't say what he was. I just said he's not the kind of doctor you're thinking of.

What's the guy that was in the odd couple, Jack Klugman? Is it that show? Oh, come on now, Drew. Come on now, Drew. What? Is that it? Come on! You're not giving me a name of a show. Oh, no.

What was... I can't think of the... The name of the character... He was a pathologist. Okay. The doctor's a pathologist. All right. And...

I will take a break. Then I'll tell you when we come back. Come on, Drew. All right, right after this. All right. Get me... Keep up with the actor. Yeah, you got that.

You got the character. The job. Get me the theme. to the show Quincy. Quincy, yes. Everybody. I wouldn't have come up with it. It's, it's... And he had an assistant named Sam. Yes, yeah, there's a Japanese guy. Back,

yeah, when Asian guys were just giving themselves one syllable first names just to fit in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Music. Music. I'm not very good. The fascinating sphere of police work.

The world of forensic medicine. Did you like that show? Yeah, I watch it. I had to. Why? Oh, yeah. Look, I do it, read. Jim Carls can tell me a high school football story

when they won the state championship? Lots of you tell you a story. Oh, I had to be in my grandpa's house. No, I would be babysitting watching this shit. That's how I know that's sort of the Friday night, Saturday night, line up. The thing that was always funny about Quincy is the guy plays a corner in L.A., but like half the episodes, he's on a car hood shooting it out with gangbangers and stuff. It's like, I don't think that's how that job works.

No, uh-uh. And every episode is the same thing. Like they go, we found the rich guy's body in the ocean. At preliminary, it was an accidental drowning. And we're going to go ahead and cream. the remains and Quincy would be like, no. No, he was murdered. Murdered. Everyone looked at him. I go, Quincy, let it go. These are very rich people. He's a very influential family. You understand? Just let it go. The San Diego Coroner said it was an accidental drowning.

We got a big case log. Just let it go. Do not cremate that body. I can tell you, he was murdered. And everyone would be in the room going, Quincy, let it go. You don't know what you're talking about. family is very powerful. Okay, they're friends with the mayor, the friends with the DA. Now, just let it go. But he would never let it go. And at the end, he was always right. But the people who work with him, see, if I was Quincy, I'd do the same thing I do.

I should do with Mike August, where I go, you know how I'm right about everything all the time we argue about eventually? Why don't you just believe me now, then? And that would save you a lot of trouble. You know what I mean? Every single time this happens, Quincy's boss comes in and go, Quincy, let this one go.

He died of an accidental drowning. This guy's a very important man. He has very influential friends. I just let it go. I can't let it go. He can't let it go. And then, of course, he's right. But he never says to him,

you say that every time, and I always end up being right at the end. Yeah. When, in fact, the actual, the actual, what do they call them, medical examiner from the LA County, the LA County Moore Director, was a guy I did battle with 30 times,

and he messed up more death certificates on more celebrities that died of drugs and left this sort of legacy of legend that was false around almost every single one of them from Maryland Monroe to Natalie Wood. I mean, I was watching a documentary in Natalie Wood. Well, you're talking about Thomas,

Noguchi? Yeah, Thomas Noguchi. Another Asian. And he fought with me one time. We were on a documentary together. We were sitting in the waiting room, and he insisted that John Belushi was not an addict. I didn't know what I was talking about. Wow. Yeah, insisted. Somebody just gave him a hot shot. He had no, he did not understand what addiction was at all. And I was watching a documentary on Natalie Wood, and they showed her medication list. the list of medications, and I froze it and blew it up. And I was like, holy shit. It's amazing she was breathing before she went in the water.

Right. I mean, the amount of drugs that she was on was unbelievable. And he, no, no sense that was contributing. We wonder if Sam, the Asian lab assistant, it was Quincy's right-hand man, like Sam would do a lot of Quincy. You think it's a good idea to go up against the mayor's office on this one? Sam, I've got to do what's right. I got a feeling about this one.

He was always, he kind of agreed with Quincy, but he also sort of understood the mayor. Am I Sam in your fight with Mike August? Yes. Adam. Not fighting with him. You're never going to change him. He has hypovigilance. It's not going to change.

How would you define hypovigilance? It doesn't it? Only in the sense that I understand hypervigilance, because it's, of you, that you're, you just notice things that aren't, and you're, your, your, you're, pick up stuff because of a vigilance, you're always, even though your heart rate is low and you're not anxious and stirred up in terms of your, you're not activated in terms of your system, even though your system is low, essentially, your awareness, maybe somehow that lets in things that the rest of us miss. The patterning thing is something different, but the vigil.

is, you know, a gnat fart's on the wall, you notice it. Right. I don't, I don't think, Mike, I don't think, the, the, the euphemistic way of saying that is he doesn't sweat the small stuff, doesn't sweat it. So, when did Thomas Noguchi cease to be the coroner for L.A. County? And then was Sam from Quincy, sort of loosely, a tip of the cap, the guy who was. the corner for L.A. County. Like, I guess there's kind of a thing. If Thomas Noguchi, if the corner of L.A. is, I guess, Japanese, I guess.

Yeah, Noguchi. Noguchi, he was like 30 years. He did it for a long time. I know, 67 to 82. Quincy probably, Quincy probably debuted in 79 or 80 or something. Yeah, yeah. So somebody may have said if the current corner is Japanese and we're going to make a thing where the guy's the corner, plays the corner from L.A. County, we need a Japanese guy in that office somewhere. Otherwise, it's going to be kind of whitewashed, even though it was back then.

But it's like I said, I was talking to Jason Reitman about it, and I meant it because he made the Saturday night lock. movie. And I said, Garrett Morris, what was Garrett Morris doing there in that cast? He was not an improvisational actor. He wasn't a comedian. He was an opera center. Yes, he had none of that. He's still, he's not funny today. You know, like, it's not his, it's not his thing. And I said, I said, Jason, you made that movie. And in the movie, the guy played Garrett Morris was wandering around going, what am I doing here? I don't get what I'm doing here. And I kept going, yes, that's what I'm saying.

What are you doing in this cast filled with these, you got Dan Aykroy to one side and Bill, Bill Murray on your other side, and you're not supposed to be there. It's not like it's not your thing, you know? And he kind of conceded. It was kind of funny. I said he's,

Garrett Morris is like the first DEI hire. Like, really? I mean, we're talking about 1975, 1976, you know? And this was Garrett Morris's like grandson playing. him too, right? I don't know. That I didn't know. I think that's true. I think that's true. Jason said to me, he goes, you know, I mean, it was a long time ago, but it was still in New York City. And the concept of having literally an all-white cast, you know, was like,

can't just have an all-white cast. I mean, even though it's 1976, but it's New York. You know, it's as progressive it's going to be. And people, this stuff is not as new as people think it is. There's been plenty of talk about race and representation. Your mom started in the 60s. Stuff like that. Not related. Thank you, Drew. So the point is, but it has the same last name. Oh, they're both Morris. Oh, okay. No, no, he was, he's related to him. I remember reading about it. Andrew says no. Wikipedia says no, Dr. Oh, Wikipedia says no, but, you know. Where did I read that? I could have gotten wrong. Yeah, Wikipedia says Andrew's a celebrated filmmaker as well, so you cannot, you can't trust what those people say.

Oh. So, Sam, I think that guy's still alive. Who's the guy who played Sam? The whole choice of Jack Klugman in that role, to me, he just was wrapping up the odd couple, like three years earlier, seems so, weird to me. I remember thinking at the time, like, he's going to be a pathologist. How's at work? It was very strange. I'm going to say he wrapped it up. Yeah, not just, but a little earlier than that. But what years did Quincy run? Feels a little later to me, like 79, 80. Did not? A couple ended like 75? 75 would be my, my wedding.

whatever. Yeah, 95 years young, Quincy's assistant, Sam. Wow. Still going strong. Butta, ba, blah, blah, blah. Robert Edo. Oh. What? Drew heard he was related to Judge Edo. It was also Dr. Cornell Seven's protege.

And Colonel Duke LaCross knows that guy as well. Huh. 76 to 83. It started sooner than a, than I thought. And we had a good long run. Quincy. Is Edo related to Edo? Judge Edo?

Well, Judge Edo would be in his 80s today. Yeah. I'm guessing. This guy was 95. It's not like, I don't know. I don't know. popular Edo is, but it's not wildly popular. Like, I can only think of too.

Not related. So that and Garrett Morrison and other Morris are not related. It's real disappointing when people have the same last name and are not related. For sure, I'd read something about that. Maybe it was also wrong. Guys, I don't believe anything anymore, so it's easy for me. I just like, okay. You know, it's kind of an interesting thing, Drew.

Did you read it somewhere? or did you just read that this last name's this guy's name was Morris and you did like some kind of your brain did a weird math. Look, I'm prepared to say it's the latter. I am, but I don't think it, that's why I'm sort of repeating it over and over because I don't think that's what happened, but maybe it is, maybe it is. Yeah, I'm, I'm realized there's a, you know, there's also a kind of a thing where I was like, I kept saying Quincy started later in like 79, but I was like, I wasn't really babysitting in 79,

but I do remember babysitting and watching Quincy. So I kept trying to sort of go, maybe it's a little earlier, but then I did babysit a little bit in 79. And I remember the transition from, you know, the odd couple to Quincy being sort of jarring for me. Yeah, because he was a different guy. But Klugman did a good job. He's a good actor, yeah, I get it. He's a good actor. And Robert E.

The Gilligan syndrome, right? He has to be Gilligan in my head or else that's it. He only did three seasons of Gilligan. He's the rest of his life. He's Gilligan. Sam was probably, I mean, Sam, the coroner's assistant had to be the only Asian on TV back then. But, you know, Asians didn't complain because they didn't give him. a shit because they're too busy crushing it in business and academically. And this whole

representation thing, I feel the same way when it comes to genders. I don't need women firefighters. They don't really want to be firefighter. How many women do you know, Drew, like if I'm thinking about any woman, let's just say any woman you've ever been with or dated or what have you. I never knew any women that wanted to be carpenters or mechanics or firefighters. Even cops, I really didn't. I didn't know any woman that I was aware of that goes, I want to be a plumber. Like, I never met that. I have a daughter.

She doesn't want to be a plumber. You know what I mean? I got a son. It doesn't want to be a plumber either. But I don't know. I'm willing to, I'm willing to say, Certain groups are attracted to certain things, and I'm okay with that. And if, like, if firemen are normally comprised of big white dudes, then I'll go good.

That's what they like. But in a world where every, we're all tabula rasa and everything, all of our preferences, all of our personality and gender characteristics are created by society. Right. And none of it is us, none of it. Well, this is a subject for a different. This is a different subject for a different time, but they don't like my argument because my argument doesn't have to do with society. They look at everything has to do with society because they create society and they mold and shape and bend society. And that's why they need to constantly police society and interrupt society because society shapes everything.

It's why it ultimately becomes totalitarian. What did you say? It's why it ultimately becomes totalitarian. Right. The oldest people to do things, they just don't, they don't naturally do. They don't want to do. All right. October 30th through November 1st, Atlanta.

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