The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - A Very Brady Gilligan's Island Christmas (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classic)

Episode Date: August 5, 2023

Drew opens the show recapping his experience singing our nation's anthem, and marvels over how much easier new things are after trying them once. Adam gives his tips for how to spot a hack in Hollywood and speaks on the creative bankruptcy of entertainment in his youth. Finally, the guys take calls including a question about the idea of effective altruism and a question about a famous musician who was imprisoned for almost unspeakable crimes wherein the caller wants Drew's take on how people are capable of such heinous acts.

Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. Starting things off, we have episode 412, released September 13th, 2016, titled The College Roommate. Adam and Dr. Drew talk about how much easier it is to do things the second time around, and the benefits of diverse experiences. Alright Drew, what's going through your mind, man? Signing the national anthem at Dodger Stadium. Oh, yeah. It was fun.

Sorry, I forgot about that. It was good. This time I got it. It's so, it was, you know, one of the things that was interesting to me, a couple things, but one very significant thing was once you have done something once it's insane how much easier it is to do it again it's insane insane i mean i literally i because there's the first time i was quite anxious right and more than anything i was like what time do i need to be there who do i meet what do i do when i get there where do i go how do i meet the organist all these anxiety provoking

questions and when i get on the field what about things in my ear? What if they don't work? How do I make sure that I had a million, million, million questions and walk through it took hour and a half to do it the very first time I did it, which was at the beginning of the season back in June or something. And it was fine. It was successful. And, uh, and this time I had zero anxiety. I like, yeah, I know the desk I go to. I know they'll take me to the organist. I'll meet with him. He's a cool guy. I'll hang out with him a little bit.

Go back on the field. Meet the nicest guy on earth. Runs the sound down on the field. And he'll set me up, check me out. And this time, he gave me a little pointer. He goes, hey, look at that jumbotron up there. And I go, yeah, last time you said the words are up there. Oh, no, no, no, no.

The words are just underneath in the strikeout box. You know, that KKK box underneath. I was like, oh, my God, the words are going to be up there oh no no no the words are just underneath in the in the strikeout box you know that kkk box underneath i was like oh my god the words are going to be up there now i have zero anxiety the experience has been pleasant and i can just focus on the singing and and i also know by the way what the feedback is going to be like when the second i have to lay and i'm going to used to i'm expecting that i'm familiar with it and i sang well because I could just sit and focus at that. That was the second time. That's so weird. Well, it's 100% more experience than the first time.

Which is kind of infinity in a weird way. It's like infinite more experience. Well, and 100% is a lot in terms of percentages. But it is that what ends up happening is the fifth time is not that much different than the fourth time or the sixth time. But the first and second are quite large. And then also there are other experiences that will match or mimic or prepare one for these things that also involve that part of the brain or nervous system that don't involve the exact same thing that can also prepare you for the first time. So all the other experiences that you have.

You mean doing things you've never done before for the first time, just that experience. Yeah. Yeah. And I try to go over that with people in my life a lot. It's hard. It's hard to put yourself out there and do things, especially as you get older. You don't want the suras, you don't want the anxiety sometimes.

But it's good for you. It's good for you. It's good and you have to teach yourself how to think. You have to refine how you think. You have to refine how you think you have to look there's certain there's things in life that involve certificates of completion and they have numbers attached to them

you know how many push it will find out how what kind of shape you're in but how many push-ups you can do let's count them you know and you can go, it's 50 or it's two, and then we'll decide. But I keep explaining that this stuff's invisible. And it doesn't, you can't see it. You can't, I can't, it's easy to open up one's wallet and go, here's 60 bucks, here's some of what I have. This cannot be given away, unfortunately. A guy who's sung the national anthem 2,000 times can stand next to you and give you nothing.

He can say, relax, or don't worry about it, or I was nervous the first time I did it, too. That doesn't really help you. It's just a process where one has to go through the process, and then one has to go through as many different types of processes that are related. Well, not only that, the other thing is doing the only thing you, well, the predominant thing you learn by doing it more times is how to respond to fuck-ups. When it goes off the rail, you develop a flexibility, because then there's a confidence that comes with that like oh yeah i dealt with that i dealt with this i dealt with that yeah i did uh it's uh i'm just just finishing my second doc and i'm just doing um all the stuff it takes to button the thing up with the trailer and the sound mixing and the, the, the, the, the, the, and it's so much easier to do it the second time around. You know,

you have such a better idea of how to do it. Crazy. And I have to tell people all the time. They go, how do you make a doc? I go, you have to, you make a doc.

That's how you make it. But how do you do it? You know, it's like, just go do it. You start doing it. It's like, how,

how, so I said, you have to start. I rewatched the, uh, Woody Allen documentary. Have you seen it? The two part document. It's like, how? You have to start. I re-watched the Woody Allen documentary. Have you seen it? The two-part documentary. It's like three hours. Yes, probably.

It's the only interview he's done in like 30 years. I've watched it three times. I'm such a nerd. But one of the things that jumps out at me every time is when he's given his first film, his wife, I forget her name at the time. Sue Me? No, no, no. It's way back. Bach Joy? No. Woody Allen's first wife. Mm-hmm. His wife, I forget her name at the time. Sung-hee? No, no, no, it was way back.

Park Choi? No. Help. What do you call his first wife? Mia Farrow? Before her. Oh, boy. They're still good friends and stuff.

All right. You recognize her. She's a comedic actress and stuff. She's been in a lot of his films. In any event, she... Oh, her. Yeah. With the red hair and the whatever.

Yes, yes. Mm-hmm. Name. We have a name. I didn't know that was his first wife. I think so. I can't think of her name, but it's in his movies. And she goes, yeah, he was first day of shooting, and I woke up and got out of the shower,

and he was in bed with, you know, directing for dummies, essentially. Just reading how to direct your first film. Right. And he didn't know anything about it. Right. Not one thing, and he just went out and did Banana? Oh, no. I guess it was What's New Pussycat or something.

Yeah. Everything you want to know about sex. No, no, no. All right. Well, that's not no, no, no. It was. Wasn't he in two films before? Isn't Bananas his, too?

I don't know if Bananas was number one. Probably. There's Sleeper, Bananas, Take the Money and Run, Love and Death. Take the Money and Run is the first one, I think. I'm pretty sure. Harleen Rosen. Yep. Okay.

See, but also, you have to teach yourself how to think. And here's what I try to share with my guys all the time. There's a way to go through life where you will have your answers laid out, but you have to deconstruct things. I just had a thing. Alright.

I've got a first world problem, Drew. I know. I've got a Lamborghini Miura and I need to change out the electric cooling fans in the front. And as I always say to my guys, when they're like, how do we find this switch, or how do we find this part? I always go, I'll give you an example. I needed carburetors for a 1969 Lamborghini Miura.

So how many Lamborghini Miras did they make with these carbs on it? It's 750 total. So I said, you're not going to go online and you're not going to find carburetors for this car because it's too exotic. But I know how manufacturers work. and here's how it works. When you're a Lamborghini and you're inventing a car and coming out with a car, you want to do as little work as possible. You certainly don't want to redo all parts necessarily, right? Very smart.

Yeah. You can't, yes, you can make the shape and the hood and the sheet metal and that kind of stuff, but switches and little dummy lights and fans, motors for fans. You think Lamborghini is making the motor for the fan? Do you think now the carburetors? Well, how does that work? Well, they're downdraft Webbers, not side draft. They come down. They mount standing up.

Lamborghini is a four-liter, 12-cylinder engine, and they use four triple choke, as they call them, downdraft carbs. Four, and they each have three, makes 12. Okay? So we had to find these carburetors. And I said, my guys would be punt on eBay. You know, Lamborghini, Miura.

I said, no, no, no. You trained them well, though. Porsche. Wow. Why? Now tell me that. Because Porsche, in the same time period, ran about a two-liter,

six-cylinder, triple Weber downdraft. I said, do you think Lamborghini is going to cast their own cast out of aluminum? You think they're going to make their own carburetors? And those are Weber carburetors. You think Weber's going to make two different castings for triple choke downdraft? Or might they use two triple chokes on a two-liter six-cylinder and four on a four-liter 12-cylinder? And I knew right then and there those are Porsche carbs. Now, Porsches are ubiquitous.

But you had to have that knowledge about what Porsche was doing around the same time, though. That's part of being a genius. So I had to knowledge about what Porsche was doing around the same time, though. That's part of being a genius. Yeah. But, so I had to sort of think. I like the way your staff gets a supercilious glib grin, like, yes, he is. They understand what they're dealing with. I said. That's my man. Muras, in the downdraft department, they made a handful of these Muras engines and carbs. Porsches,

they made thousands and thousands of units of these cars. And they all had, before fuel injection, carburetors from like, I don't know, 66 to 74. So there's a lot of them out there. So when you look, find Porsche

carburetors, and then we will find our carbs. They find them fast, then? Yeah, we found them. And as a matter of fact, I went and looked at Porsche later on. Anyway, point is, we now need to find motors for the fan. Because the Miura is a mid-engine. Mid-engine cars are behind you. Okay?

But the radiators on all mid-engine cars are in front. They need the air. They can't do the... I mean, not all, but just about all of them. Put them up front, and they pipe the water to the back. Well, there's no engine to turn the fan. They must have electric fans. So, I said, you with me?

Fans to pump the water? Fans to cool the radiator. Okay, got it. Electric fans. Got it, got it. So they said, we can't find any fans for Miura. I said, don't look for fans for Miura. Find me another car, like a Dino Ferrari that had a mid-engine back there

that they made 4,000, 5,000 units of, and punch in electric fan, motor, radiator, Dino Ferrari, and that fan will match the same, will be the fan we need. That one you can find. And that's what we did. Crazy. Well, it's just how to use...

You've got to figure out how to use your brain. Yes, true. You're absolutely right. But it requires a fund of knowledge that... Well, you also have to pay attention. But you have to think

in a linear sort of fashion, which is it's not going to be... It's not going to be a front-engine car for the most part next up let's go to episode 1100 released june 21st 2019 titled trademark to a hack adam laments the creative bankruptcy of television in his youth as he gives the telltale signs of a hack in Hollywood. You know what the you know what the the trademark of a hack is?

Tell me. Sherwood Schwartz is a hack. Yes. God rest his soul. Yeah. He's a world class hack. Yes. God rest his soul. Yeah. He's a world class hack. And the. Oh, God, Sid the Brady Bunch cartoon, then you do a very Brady Christmas, then you do a Brady reunion, and you keep going back to the fucking hack, fucked out

hack well. That's what Sid and Marty Kroff do with Sigmund the Sea Monster. Sigmund the Sea Monster is an embarrassment that you guys could chalk up to just being really high in 1974 for, but move the fuck away. up to just being really high in 1974 for, but move the fuck away. Hacks. You don't see, you will never see, you don't see Steve Martin or Jimmy Kimmel or guys like that go back and constantly reel, oh, I'm doing the jerk for 2019. They did it, done, now I'm writing a book.

Right? Yes. The super hacks, you know they're super hacks. They keep going back to that thing. So Sid and Marty Kroff, super hacks, and Sherwood Shorts, super hack, and all

Sherwood Shorts would do is do the Brady Bunch, and then for the rest of his life keep fucking out the Brady Bunch. And Gilligan's Island, they had some follow-ups on that. Yeah. First, there was the animated version of everything.

And then at a certain point, there's like, you know, they do like the Brady Bunch in outer space. Stuff like that. It's like Sigmund. Oh, it's the reboot for Sigmund here. Yeah. I knew it was coming, but it looks like it may have come out as early as 2016. It's on Amazon Prime. David Arquette is the biggest name.

Ball. It is the worst piece of art you've ever seen. I mean, in a world where Yoko Ono is out there, this is worse. This is worse than Yoko Ono. And it's the worst part of my childhood. Those guys are massive hacks. And the idea that they're doing it in 2016 is insane. But that's what hacks do.

Now, you could say, well, why don't they do something new? And the answer is, oh, they've tried. They can't. They're hacks. They're hacks they can't they're hacks they're hacks remember they're hacks if you look on like sherwood schwartz or sid and marty cross imdb page um one of them is still alive one of the sid or marty the other one sherwood schwartz these guys Those guys lived to like their 90s. They had success with shit in like 1974. After that point, there's nothing you've heard of except for reattempts of the shit they shat out in the 70s. That's exactly what you're going to find.

Like his planet? Sherwood Schwartz. I delivered booze to his house once. He had the red skeleton on. After the Brady Bunch, 69 to 74, Brady girls get married. The castaways of Gilligan's Island rescue from Gilligan's Island. Brady, Gilligan, Gilligan, Brady. Harlem Globetrotters on Gilligan's Island.

Oh, my God. Gilligan's Planet. The Bradys in 1990, Gilligan's Island in 1992, the Brady Bunch movie, a very Brady sequel in 1996. Brady Bunch in the White House. Am I fucking making any of this shit up? Sherwood Shorts came out with a piece of shit called the Brady Bunch in 1969 and died doing a very, I'll see you in the grave, Brady's. In 2002, he was doing the Brady's go to the fucking White House. Oh, Jesus. In 2002, he was doing the Brady's go to the fucking White House.

Oh, Jesus. At some point, someone should just wrestle the Brady's out of his hands like you take a gun away from a retarded kid. Like, come on. Please, hand it over. Please, just set it down. Just set it down. It's enough already. It's enough.

Like somebody getting their keys back when they're drunk. Give me your keys. The Gilligan's Island was horrible. The Brady's was horrible. He did that in the late sixties. And he, the last thing he did in 2002 was a Brady and he, oh,

there's all Gilligan's Island and it's fucking nuts, right? That can't, that won't work today. That guy can't work anymore. Oh no. Also, I don't know know does he have any friends or family members like when he comes into the room in 1995 like hey i've got an idea let me guess

let me guess brady or gilligan a very brady gilligan's island christmas darling why didn't you think of that? Sherwood left my... And he made kajillions of dollars as a producer. Now, look, you can go, what's your problem with Sherwood Schwartz? I don't know. What's my problem with drug dealers? They affect people. They harm people.

They harm young people. Yes? It's harmed our culture and our souls. Yeah. You can, oh God, Sherwood Schwartz. I've never been writer in my life. I haven't looked at his IMDb page, but my God, it is all

Brady and all Gilligan's Island, and now we need Sid and Marty Croft, because that's crazy. There they are. All right, let's see if we can find them. Now look. This is not IMDb because it's see if we can find them. Now, look. This is not IMDb because it's for both of them, so it breaks it up.

So we may have to kind of read a few sections here. Okay. So, Drew. Now, look. Sid and Marty Kroff will have more junk, like far out space nuts and Sid and Marty Kroff, like morning, Saturday morning hour, whatever. It's just all shit. It's all just can laugh and Chuck McCann and blah, blah, whatever. It's all the same thing now. It's just all shit. It's all the exact same stuff. It's all just Can Laugh and Chuck McCann and blah, blah, blah. It's all bad.

It's all bad. And then as you get into, I predict as you get into the 80s, then you're going to see a lot of rebooting. What did it start with? Go down further. That's as far as it goes. So there was Lidsville. Bananas slits. There was Lidsville.

There was the Buggaloos. Do you remember what the Buggaloos. Do you remember the Buggaloos? I do not remember those. No, I remember Puff and Stuff. The Buggaloos were like these flying, they were like bee people. The Buggaloos, the Buggaloos, they're in the air and everywhere flying. Then there's the world of City Mart. You never saw the Buggaloos?

I did not see the Buggaloos. Oh, man. I missed. You never saw the Buggaloos? I did not see the Buggaloos. Oh, man. You missed the Buggaloos, Drew. Were they flying bananas? I don't know what they were doing. It was all just nonsense. Far out space nuts. Land of the Lost.

Ugh. All the worst. But then I don't know what happened after 75. Oh, they did Donnie and Marie. The Osmond Show, Electra Woman and Diner Girl. Paul Lynn Halloween Special. Oh, my God. Bigfoot

and Wild Boy. Captain Cool and the Kongs. Okay. They did the Bay City Roller Show. Oh, they did Pink Lady and Jeff. These guys were horrible. Barbara Mandrell. They did a lot of those shows, huh? Pryor, Richard Pryor's DC Follies.

Oh, that's not bad. Croft, Late Night. Wait a minute. Land of the Lost. No, 1991. All right. Yeah. Mutt and stuff.

These guys, I think they just got super high and just wrote stuff down that rhymed. Also, this would not exist anymore because there's competition. Sigmund and the Sea Monster, Electro Woman and Dyna Girl, this is 2017, 2016. Land of the Lost, 2009. I mean, this stuff is 40 years past the time it came out. Sad, Drew. It's a sad testimonial. I mean, this stuff is 40 years past the time it came out. Sad, Drew. It's a sad testimonial.

Which one of Sid and Marty is still alive? That was me, my douchiest, Drew. It looks like Sid is 89. My douchiest of all time was I was on the CBS Radford lot. Alan Kirshenbaum, who was like the Manchus of all the Jews, who was our showrunner, was with Hange. We were like went to the— What show were you doing? I was doing a sitcom that I was starring in. I was doing a pilot.

And we were walking to the commissary, and we're going to eat on the lot or whatever. And Alan, who is the Jewish of all Jews and Mencius of all Mencius, he said, ooh, I got a treat for you guys. And I said, what is it? He said, I think Sid Croft or Marty Rutherford is still alive. Go up and introduce him to me. I was like, fuck that hack. And he was like, what? He's a legend.

And I'm like, yeah, but he makes shit. And he was like, he couldn't believe I didn't want to meet him because in his world, this guy's a huge producer. But in my world, he produces shit. I don't know. Am I wrong? Marty may also be alive. Uh-oh.

They're coming for you. How should I feel about that? They were just lucky to be alive at a time when that's – somebody I knew who was a TV producer around that time said you'd fall into success. If you fell down, you'd be successful. I was like, these guys, I have seen their work and they're creatively bankrupt and I have no thoughts about meeting them. To me, it was like saying you'd like to meet kim jong-un right i'm like no but he's the son of the guy who ran the place and

then the guy died now he's running the place it's like yes so what do you do again yeah he was just born into this world i mean they had to do. They had to get together and do something, but nothing that would ever be sustainable today, right? Oh, no. Oh, my God, no. I mean, look, there was this magic box that had sound and images coming into our living rooms. These guys filled it with magical stories that were all cartoons. They were just cartoons. And as I said, the cartoons attracted the hackiest of the hacks.

Well, their stuff was mostly live action. But still cartoon. Oh, yeah. There was nothing. I mean, Gilligan's Island was a cartoon with people. Right, with big laugh tracks and just nonsense and hit on the head with the coconut and lost his memory. So he got hit on the head with the coconut again and then he regained his memory.

Like, I don't know what you couldn't write for a show like that that wasn't acceptable. One of the things I do, by the way, when I'm watching those shows at the top of those old shows, you know brady bunch or partridge family i always pause on the writer because like written by stan goldman and it's like did anyone even need to write this and how could that guy even write or how can you give him notes i'd forgotten this for 30 years more than 30 years i was i you know i was drifting for a little while during when i was in college and what I wanted to do. And I took a screen – television. I was either a television writer or screenwriting class.

And there was this guy that ran the class. He was marginal intelligence, like really like kind of impaired. And he said, oh, no. When you write television, you have to write for over 80 and under 2. Under 2. That's what he said. And he kept saying that. How do you write television, you have to write for over 80 and under 2. Under 2. That's what he said, and he kept saying that. How do you write for under 2? And I thought, just sparkly images and stuff, just things like the wub-wub-wubzies, right?

And this is who these marginally present people were writing television. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Last up for today, we have episode 665, released September 13th, 2017, titled The Feelings Era. The guys go to the phones where Drew is asked what could make a person

capable of heinous acts, and another caller asks about the idea of effective altruism. Hey, Jason, 37, Washington. What's going on here? Hey, I just wanted to ask Drew about, there's this band called The Lost Prophets, and I had forgot about them, and then I looked them up, but I remembered them, and I saw that the lead singer was in prison for having

sex or trying to rape babies. And I was wondering, what the hell makes somebody do that? Yeah, I'm not, again, back to our discussion about rationality and emotion, I'm not sure you can describe that kind of behavior in rational terms, right? The only thing I know is that if people had some— Have you heard of this story? I've heard of people raping babies. I mean, it happens.

It really ends up—I mean, we've had to treat—I had to treat lots of people. Not lots of people. Victims of this? Yes. And it is destructive to the babies. They actually dissociate from their bodies. They have something called somatoform dissociation, where they can't feel parts of their bodies,

and it's just terrible. It's a catastrophe for the child. And, you know, they're monsters. Look up that story, Gary. I'm reading about it. It's pretty damn. Yeah. He was charged with...

Calypso ban? What's that? Calypso ban? What kind of music? Lost Prophets, Chris. What kind of music? Lost Prophets, Chris. What kind of music? Chamber. For sure.

Chamber or Calypso. Those are my two choices. Drew? There's a rock band here. Oh, damn it. He's Welsh. And in 2012, charged with conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a one-year-old girl and possession and or distribution of indecent images of children and, quote, extreme animal pornography.

Oh, my God. Well, something happened to him, obviously, right? He was sexually abused as a child, for sure. Probably horrible. So, look, Jason, who knows what makes people do whatever? They were abused. Traumatic reenactment. That is certainly one of the things that happens.

Riddle me this, Drew. I was listening to my friend Dennis Prager's radio show the other week. Me and him in Brooklyn, by the way, King's Theater, November 29th. And a guy called in. No one ever really gives the advice I give and sometimes you give about these situations. But it was a guy saying he was very broken. And he was a very broken guy. And he was calling in and saying, I can't get over.

I just can't get over this thing. I just can never get past and over this thing. And he told a story about his roommate, male, taking advantage of him sexually, you know, when he was like 19 and then sort of blaming it on him. And the college never did anything about it. And now every day he thinks about it. And I just feel like obviously there's something else going on. We always know there's something else going on.

Your roommate doesn't get to have sex, unconsensual sex with you when you're male on male and you're 19 years old or 20 or 18 or whatever it is. So there's something else going on. Right. But this thing when people just go, it's been six years and I can't, I can't stop thinking about it. It's such a, it's a very unique human being gene thing that some people have in spades and other people's like,

I don't have an ounce of that, but some people just have a never ending sort of capacity for that. And no one tells them, Hey, moving on. Well, you can, they can't,

they get stuck in it, but there are effective treatments for that now. I mean, quite easily effective. And, and really essentially it's like being in a car accident and reliving and revivifying the moment every minute of every day, right? Because you keep – or waking up at a start at night with an image of it.

And your body has – your body remembers trauma. It gets embedded in your body. And some people are way more prone to that than others. And there's ways to break that. There's ways to break it. And you just got to get the treatment. It's a stuckness in terms of – it's not even really a traumatic reenactment. It's just it's a kind of a memory that's not an explicit memory like we think of when you recall something.

Right. Would it be fair to say that the trauma maybe before you could remember things you don't remember, but now you're locked into this memory? If you've had previous trauma, you're more likely to develop PTSD from the current trauma. Well, you had to have had previous trauma in order to fall victim to this. Yes. All right. Let's move on to happier thoughts. What do you got?

Interesting question here on line four. Go ahead, John. 25, Washington. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. I also wanted to thank you, Dr. Drew, for turning me on to the PEL podcast. Yeah, I'm going to have Mark Lindmeier on, too, soon. So thank you for that.

And I was on, I guessed it, on their podcast. I don't know when they're going to air it, but we have a two-parter. I had such a good time with those guys. Thank you, John. I appreciate that. I keep looking for you on there. I don't know where they are at. I'll ask Mark.

I'm going to see him today. I'll talk to him today. So my question was kind of falling in line with the reason and rationality the philosophy called effective altruism, which is like, I just wanted to get your guys' take on that, if you agreed with that, if you think

that's pragmatic. So, well, I'm not enough of an expert to distinguish pragmatism from utilitarianism as it pertains to effective altruism. These are all sort of distinct lines of thinking, right? I think Adam and I are both pragmatists at heart. You know what I mean by pragmatist? Essentially, what works, works. We're just like, what's good, what works, what helps people, what's for it. We're not utilitarians

in the sense that we believe that there's a mathematical principle of ultimate utility. I think that's... What's that mean? What is good is what helps the most people and makes the most people happy, period. And I think that's like saying ultimately we have to all be tolerant. It becomes intolerant at a certain point. The same is true of utilitarianism. It gets painted into weird corners. Effective altruism is sort of saying, well, you reason what's good for people and you think about what's right and what's helpful. I imagine, John, you get just to the golden rule, right?

With effective altruism. Yeah. Hold on. Wawa Lovesy says, be yourself and you'll be cool. That's the golden rule. Is that what we're talking about here? That's the best way to go through life, right? Jesus Christ.

How the fucking Zamboni runs over that fucking Wawa Lovesy. Go ahead, John. You know, one part of it, it wants to maximize goodness done to people, which seems like morally good. That's utilitarian. Yeah, and consequentialist. But some of it's tenets like, you know, someone far away suffering is the same as someone ten yards away from you suffering, you know, if it's the same. Or that future generations have the same, you know, we need to give them the same amount of consideration as someone that is alive. I think, John, it's a gigantic mistake to ignore how we're wired as it pertains to our moral and ethical philosophies.

The fact is we are much more sensitive to somebody close who's suffering than somebody as far as suffering. We just are. That's just the way we're wired. And so I believe that a lot of our altruism is about getting our genes going forward and it's evolved in our evolutionary heritage. And so I'm going to put a little faith in that evolutionary heritage and go, there must be something about that that helps us push our genes forward a little better than if we had a perfect compass as it pertains to our altruism. So that's my only sort of wrinkle on that. You know what I'm saying, Adam?

Well, here's what I get. Because if we were rushing to a fire, people, why do people rush into a fire to save somebody? It's like because we're saving our – we do that. That's what humans do. They push the – the species goes forward. That's our instinct always. But go ahead. Yeah.

If you're backing your car out of a driveway and some guy's walking his dog, he'll almost always wave you back or tell you if a car's coming or something like that. It's just a human thing, not a female thing, as I found out the hardware. No, I mean it. They don't have that. Guys have the come on, come on, come on. Girls don't have that come on, come on, come on thing. Okay.

I don't know. I'm not sure, but they don't have it. I've hit trash cans. Okay. I understand how it works. Guys, most guys have a built in, here we go, move. You taking care of, you know, this notion of like we got to send sacks of grain everywhere and do everything all the time. It's a little grandiose.

sacks of grain everywhere and do everything all the time. It's a little grandiose. What we need to do is what I've always said we need to do, which is limit the number of kids we have to the amount of human beings we can take care of. And if we do that, and everything times a kajillion families sort of solves itself. And back to the sort of altruistic instincts we have by somebody close to us, if we were really taking care of our kids more effectively, we wouldn't have to worry about taking care of everybody else's. Yes, of course. We wouldn't have to worry about it.

We wouldn't have to build prisons. Right. We wouldn't have to do anything. That instinct of trusting that proximity thing, there's something about that that I think must have an efficacy deep within our biology. must have an efficacy deep within our biology. Yeah, I was in my, you know, every time I go hang out with the dads in my neighborhood, I marvel at two things. One is, three things, how well behaved their kids are, how well they play together,

how uncruel or disrespectful or hurtful or whatever. Not because someone told them, you got to have a big heart and you can't be cruel and you can't be no they weren't taught they were shown how to be how to be human beings none of those kids got the speech about eradicating hate

and loving love they all just got an example which is like two parents nurturing them other thing that's kind of interesting that I always notice

about my neighborhood the dads are 10 years older than they should be, and none of them are fat. They're all on top of themselves. They're all jogging and working out and whatever. Like, you take a bunch of 50. 10 years older than. Than they should be for a 10-year-old kid or a 12-year-old kid or whatever it is. So they're weighted.

They all weighted. 10-year-old kid or a 12-year-old kid or whatever it is you know they've waited they all waited they all take care of themselves and their kids are fantastic and they don't do anything that you don't have to discipline them you don't have to do anything you're a racist thank you i didn't say they're all white but they are i'm sure they're not by the way uh no there's uh there's a uh there's a Armenian guy. We had an interesting conversation. I'm trying to work him out of the group a little bit. We had an interesting conversation with my Asian friend, Peter, didn't we?

The thing about this mathematical equation, here's my controversial statement for the day. Here we go. it transcends everything it doesn't see color it does not see country of origin it doesn't care about faith it doesn't care about sexual proclivities you actually trump everything

if you wait to have kids stay together as a couple take care of yourself, it actually works. It beats everything. Dennis Prager, one of the one of his sayings that I really enjoy is, you know, talk about like white privilege.

Yes? Okay. If there is white privilege, it can be trumped by a black couple staying together. A white kid with a family that's broken apart has less privilege, statistically, than a black kid or a Hispanic kid or whoever kid whose parents are intact, whose family's intact. So it's pretty easy to get past white privilege. Stay,

stay intact and you'll be one up on, on white. That's all for this week. Thanks for listening to another episode of the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. Remember to check back weekly for new episodes. And while you're at it, don't forget to like subscribe and rate us five stars,

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