The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Addicted to Love... Addicts (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: April 22, 2023

Adam and Drew start things off by examining drug addiction and the realities behind the motivation of addiction. Later, Adam explains the differences between analog and digital people, specifically how much easier it is to have a productive conversation with a fellow analog. And finally, they go to the phones where they speak with a caller who is trying to figure out why she is perpetually finding herself attracted to drug addicts and alcoholics.

Welcome back to another episode of the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. Kicking it off for today, we have episode 213, released February 15th, 2015, titled The Motivation of Addiction. Adam and Dr. Drew start things off speaking about what motivates addiction, and they listen to clips of Johan Hari explaining points from his TED talk. Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong. Well, I had something that I saw on a Bill Maher show how you would react to this information because it's a sort of a thing where I'll play the clip in a second. But it was information that in one way I thought, oh, Drew's not going to like this just because he doesn't like people talking about addiction other than he.

On the other hand, it sure made a lot of sense on just a very visceral, basic level. Like you just sort of went, oh, yeah, I guess that does make sense. And I guess there was a Huffington Post article about relationships and addiction and disconnect. Was it anything related? Yeah, it had to do. to wake up in the morning and so on and so forth, they quickly find themselves with a bunch of diseases that don't let them get out of bed. Yeah. I've just—

No, listen, how many times—maybe you haven't heard me say this, I don't say it so much on this show, but the interpersonal relationship is what humans need for everything, for meaning, for emotional regulation, for their spiritual fulfillment. And if they rupture those, and again, early trauma is what ruptures that, they can't regulate and they have to reach outside of their body to find ways to feel okay. No, I agree with that. This is just took it a little further than that. I'll play you the clip hold on one second uh pasadena ice house with uh yours truly and his truly dr drew forgot to check

my camera yes i'm planning he'll be there i'm playing and that'll be uh tuesday february 24th and then uh this thursday melrose improv we're going to do the Road Hard premiere. Well, it's a sort of comedian's premiere. So there's going to be a lot of notable comedians there, including the great Dr. Drew, God willing, as well. But there'll be a couple of tickets available to folks that may want to come out and see it that way. All right. So I think what we should do is we should play this clip. This is a Johan. I think it's Hari's last name. It seems to be South African or British or something like that. But either way, he wrote a book about drugs and

recovery. I wouldn't mind having this guy on so we can make a make a note but it's very interesting and let's give it a listen it's a three minute clip so uh what's i what i find most interesting about your book is that you say everything we think we know about addiction has been wrong is that right yeah it really struck me you know when i started working on this book four years ago i had a very personal reason to do it we had a lot of addiction in my family one of my first memories is of trying to wake up one of my relatives and not being able to and if you had said to me what causes heroin addiction i would have looked at you like you're a little bit stupid and i would have said well heroin causes heroin addiction right we think that we've been told this story for 100 years that's so obvious to us it's like our sense of it's like

our common sense you know we think if the first 20 people in this audience all used heroin together with us on day 21 we'd all be heroin addicts because there are chemical hooks in heroin that our body would physically need that's what we think heroin is the first thing that alerted me to the fact that may not be right is many of us if we step out of here today and we get hit by a car god forbid and we break our hip we'll be taken to hospital and we'll be given a lot of diamorphine. Diamorphine is heroin, right? Diamorphine is much better heroin than you're going to score out on the streets. It's medically pure, right?

As opposed to stuff on the street, which is contaminated and very weak. You'll take it for quite a long time, right? Happening in every hospital in the United States, every hospital in the world. Lots of people are taking heroin for long periods of time. Now, if our old theory about addiction is right, we know what should happen. Those people should go out and score on the streets, right?

You would have noticed that your grandmother was not turned into a junkie by her hip operation. And so I was thinking, like, how can this be? What's going on there? And then I didn't really understand it. All right, let's pause it for a second. All right, so his premise so far... He had some weird misunderstanding about addiction, which is interesting, because no one in this country,

at least, ever says that. In fact, even the mice models we use, you hear about mice self-administer cocaine and stuff. Only 10 to 20 percent of mice will take cocaine. You already have a genetic subset of even mice. Because lay people think, when we think about our children, that if you try heroin, there's a decent chance you may get hooked. No. But that's the way we discuss it. There's a decent chance you'll vomit and feel like shit.

But the drug dealer gives them the first hit free. He gives them that one for free. Gets them hooked. Well, but, I mean, didn't you see the movie The Town? Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, it's so far from. Do you understand what the florist does? What I deal with. But yeah, you have to have the gene to get addiction, number one.

You have to have the genetic potential. And then you have to have something really motivating you. But he's not talking about addiction medicine specialists. He's talking about. Average person. Right. Okay. I went and interviewed a man called Professor Bruce Alexander in Vancouver,

who did an incredible experiment that helps us to really understand this. Basically, the old theory of addiction comes from an experiment that was done earlier in the 20th century. Really simple experiment. Anyone watching this can do it at home if they're feeling a little bit sadistic. And you get a rat, put it in a cage, and it has two water bottles. One is just water, and one is water laced with either heroin or cocaine. If you do that, the rat will almost always prefer the drugged water and almost always kill itself. You might remember there was an advert, Partnership for Drug Free America advert in the 80s about this.

It said, you know, it will happen to you or something like that. All right. He said, hold on. He said it was an old. It was not. It was not. Hold on. He said it was an old... It was not.

It was not. He'd have to show me the study because all the studies always first pull out the mice that do that. Because most mice won't go to the drug at all. Right. They just don't like it. Okay. It's the ones that do that we study. Well, that's why I'm bringing this up to you.

Yeah, yeah. So, hold on. You will pull out the ones that go right for it because you go, okay, they have the... They're the ones that self-administer so we can study them. Right. Or they breed those. Right. Okay.

Bruce came along in the 70s and said, well, hang on a minute. We're putting the rat in an empty cage. It's got nothing to do except take the drugs. Let's do this differently. So Bruce built Rat Park. Rat Park is like heaven for rats. do this differently so bruce built rat park rat park is like heaven for rats it's got in this cage it's got like colored balls it's got loads of friends it can have loads of sex anything a rat could want it's got in rat park and it's got both the water bottles it's got water just normal water and drugged water but here's the fascinating thing in rat park they don't like the drugged water right they almost never use it so what bruce says about that is it tells us that both the right-wing theory of addiction and the left-wing theory of addiction are on the right-wing theory is it's a moral failing, you party too hard. The left-wing theory is it hijacks

your brain and so on. What Bruce says is it's not your morality, it's not your brain, it's your cage. It's an adaptation to your environment. And there's some really interesting human examples of that as well. It was called the Vietnam War. 20% of American troops in Vietnam were using heroin a lot, right? Right.

And if you look at the news stories from the time, they're really worried because they thought, my God, we're going to have loads of junkies on the streets in the United States when the war is over. So what happened? They came home and they just stopped. Some did. Some stopped and some didn't. Right. And the ones that didn't were addicts. And the ones that stopped were dependent.

Right. But many. He's right, though. The ones that didn't were addicts, and the ones that stopped were dependent. He's right, though, but this is a new conversation about what motivates the initiation of addiction, and that's absolutely true. If you have other ways to regulate your brain than doing drugs, you'll do that. But rats like – rat parks, humans like relationships. Right, right.

Well, rat park is a relationship. Yeah. I mean, it's screwing and colored balls. Yeah, right. But the point is well taken. Absolutely. And if that's how people have to come to it, they don't understand this guy's got to tell the story. We've known that for a long time. What do you say?

Right. You've known it for a long time as a professional in this industry. But I've been chanting about it for 20 fucking years. No, I know. You've been talking about relationships and systems and support and community. But as a society, we've not really, you know, as I've always said, we, look,

every good science fiction movie, Drew, every single one, whenever there's an alien or an alien life force that comes to this planet, it starts off with finding, killing the aliens that are all dropping out of the sky. But at a certain point, they go, we need the nest, or we need the mother, we need the whatever. And our society, the source, the source that's creating all the aliens, that's the big break. That happens toward the end of Act II, and then the end of the movie

is them blowing up the source, the mothership. So the source of all of this bullshit, the source of the criminal behavior, the school to prison pipeline, the drug addiction, what do you figure the source is? It's family. Thank you. End. Okay. It's really now it's gone beyond family.

Now it's childhood trauma. Okay. So it's a hub. And from the hub, many spokes emanate. Yep. And some go toward addiction. Some go toward prison. Some go toward both.

Some go toward poverty. Some go toward violence, crime, sexual abuse, violence. Some go to the NFL. They all just, there's one spoke in there. And they all just go different directions. Yeah. Now, what my good friend at Gavin Newsom and the Huffington Post want to do is go outside of the rim, find each spoke, and try to address the nipple at the end of the spoke. What I'd like to do is focus on the hub.

I don't know why that isn't discussed more often. Everyone keeps tweeting me the teachers union get their, you know, periodical, whatever it is, and it's a picture of a school bus dropping off kids in front of a prison. Yeah. The school, the prison pipeline must be addressed.

Nice. I wonder how they're going to address it. We'll get rid of the bus. The bus is the fractured family. Right. Next up, it's episode 1371, released January 15th, 2021, titled I Shall Live for the Both of Us. January 15th, 2021, titled, I Shall Live for the Both of Us. Adam explains to Dr. Drew what he sees as the differences between analog and digital people.

Specifically, why it is so much easier to have a constructive conversation with a fellow analog. I wonder, Drew, let me ask you this. Because, you know, I'm constantly circling back to this sort of analog world versus the digital world, right? Okay. All right. The guys I speak to in the analog world, the sort of nuts and bolts guys, your entire relationship with them is, here's how I want to do it. And then they go, but wouldn't it make more sense to do it this way? And then you go, hmm, it might make more sense, but I think it's going to be stronger to do it this way. And they go, okay, I have another plan.

What if we put a stringer over the joist and we ran it on the stringer? And then I go, I don't want to see the stringer. What if we put it on the ledger? Well, the ledger is only four inches wide. It be closer to the wall okay but is it really gonna hurt this is this is every conversation every conversation yeah you start in with the people live in the digital world and you start saying the things to them you know like hey you gotta rinse that coffee mug if you put in the, it's got a little coffee. Then they go, hey, man, what are you riding me for?

And they have this different reaction. It's like this weird, like, you got a better way of doing everything. It's like, yeah, that's my world. My world is I want to discuss everything and figure out a better way to do it. and figure out a better way to do it. And embedded in your desire to find a better way to do it, you'd like that heading your direction as well if somebody has a good idea. You know what I mean?

We see these things as enhancing our position, not as attacking. Well, not only that, as I explained, Drew, moments ago, that is your entire relationship. It's them saying, what if we do it this way? and then me going yeah but what if we do it that way well then let me weigh this let me weigh this let me shape this give me all the info by the way provided oftentimes you're talking to someone who you respect who has a background who has an expertise expertise, and they're saying, here's what I think. And here's why I think this would work better this way. And then you go, hmm, okay.

Now I'm listening because you're a smart guy who has a good feel for this stuff. But I'm also then saying, how about this? And that's the entire process. That's the entire process. Everything I do is that process. I don't know. And of course, I want them to engage in that process and even be a devil's advocate because I then am the recipient of the better product.

Yeah. Right? Yes. Yes. Yes. And this is an interesting thing, which is you and I off the air spoken millions of times about people like not really caring, like just fucking blow it up. Who cares? Fuck that. Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like this is connected to that. Like, I really want the best product. I want the strong. You don't want to make a documentary and not get a whole bunch of people's input on it because you want that product to be so strong.

Right. Listen, I remember when you say that. I guess it was the Newman documentary when they told you to take you out of the documentary and you thought about it you went yeah i'd be stronger you didn't go hey fuck you man who do you think you are the entire concept for that documentary was me narrating. And then it was a pretty strong concept. It was, I'm going to narrate, and I'm going to, as the doc goes along, rebuild one of Newman's cars that you'll see him drive in the doc back in the day. And then at the end, I'm going to take the car to Laguna Seca and enter it in a race. And it seems like, well, that would be a fun through line for a documentary.

And, of course, that's how we did it. We shot everything. We shot everything with two cameras. You know, I'm interviewing Mario Andretti and I'm interviewing all these guys and I'm on camera and I'm asking the questions and blah, blah, blah. and uh nate the guy i made it with uh said to me one monday i guess he's like hey i showed the doc to a guy who makes docs or a guy respect and i was like yeah what was his you know what's his input he's like well with you in it's a tv show and with you out of it it's a documentary and i said pretty you out of it, it's a documentary. And I said... Pretty strong statement, you know what I mean?

But I mean both in terms of point of view and in terms of talking to your boss. I like it. Right. I like the cut of his jib. Well, I said what the guy say, and that's what he said. Now, by the way, this is Nate's friend. I've never met the guy. I could have went, this guy's a fucking jack-off.

I don't know this guy. Well, that's what most people would do. And they'd have a lesser product as a result. Right. So I was like, hmm. All right. Well, then pull me out of it. And then we took all the fucking footage of all the set up this camera that way and the one the other way and shoot me and narration and stand and stand up in front of the car carved it all out

it's all gone it's fucking and i would argue footage well but i but i would argue oh that's think how many hours of filming right but i would argue that you adopted some of that for some of the future docs and made them stronger too well i'm certainly don't show up in any of the future talks that you know we decided i'm out on this one you there's literally one sentence in that entire documentary where you hear my voice going how'd that make you feel i was just gonna bring that up when i remember at the premiere you guys did such a good job of you know reworking it that that sentence comes about an hour into the film. And it threw me because I had kind of forgotten.

I was so invested in the movie that I, when your voice came on, I was like, Oh yeah, this is Adam's thing that he was doing. Like, I don't know. It was just, I was so in the story. And it's, and it's when you were talking to, I remember what, what's the guy's name that you like so much. The guy that left sharp, sharp. Yeah. It was either Bob Sharp or Sebastian Bourdais I don't think you remember

either way pulling myself out and fuck you very much to all the people I gotta read tweets all the time it's like is Adam's way or the highway you disagree with the guy you fucking hit the road what the fuck is that?

Where's that come from? There's so much I'm so confused about, as I've told you, in the recovery from COVID. I'm overwhelmed by everything. And I look at tweets and I look at things and I just go, I don't understand. I literally don't understand what you're saying. I can't. I don't. What do you imagine is going on here?

You disagree with Adam, man. You're shit can, man. You disagree with that guy. You're gone. He don't listen to anybody. I've been meaning to ask you since you talked about the, uh, uh, Ozzie. Most, I was talking about the hammer. That was the word I couldn't come up with, but, uh, I haven't heard about him in a long time.

Is he okay? You made me think of him playing that tape. Oh, he's always looking for work because he's a bad worker. The problem with being a bad worker is it does not really prevent you from your first job, but it prevents you from the second job with the same person. You know what I'm saying? And this, this business,

not so different than any other business, but as a carpenter, as a guy who used to do it for a living, it's all word of mouth and referrals and repeat business. You know, I, I don't think I could have survived back in the day if I just did a job for one person and then a job for another person and then never gone back and done a second job for the first person.

Right. Uh huh. It ends up you end up building up clientele. I you know, how the fuck would you run a hair salon if every everything was one and done? You know what I mean? You have to put together a roster and a clientele and these women come back for years you know what i mean well ozzy's a horrible worker so everyone kind of catches on to him and so he's out of work but he doesn't really understand that there's a connection between that and him being just remember i just remember i don't know why this

stands out for me but at your lake ho Hollywood house, there was that little fountain in the courtyard and you asked him to replace some tiles or something. I just remember you freak out about not being able to follow up these very, very specific directions together. You remembering that? Are you remembering that? Yeah. Well, I've had probably 10,000 of those episodes. But the point is, is if you're a carpenter and your phone ain't ringing, that's an indictment right there. Yeah. It's people like it's funny.

People like to chalk everything up to something. It's not. If your phone's not ringing, that means whoever you work for is not into it. Right. And that's the way it works. Versus, you know, when I did it, I was, you know, sober and on time and didn't charge that much and did pretty good clean work. And the phone just kept ringing. But you were the 95%er, according to one guy.

Right? That was Bean from Kevin and Bean. It was? Yeah, we put it in the movie. We put it in the hammer. But that was Bean. When I was working on Bean's house, he said, you're one of these 90 percenters who never really finishes the job, right?

And I said, now i'm a 70 percenters giving you an extra 20 percent it's so funny it's a funny line being is being is like he's like so asberger ish you know what i mean and he sees things and says things that other people wouldn't because of that which i find just immensely entertaining. Well, like we previously the theme of the show. Fine with me. You want to give me feedback? Fine.

But I'm allowed to defend myself as well. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. finally we have episode 676 released september 28th 2017 titled r lee air me the guys take a call from a listener looking for advice on what causes her to perpetually find herself attracted to addicts and alcoholics now we had a caller from uh yesterday fall off but now she's back on, I think. So it's Adriana. Adriana? Hi.

Hi, Adriana. What's going on? Hi. I just want to say I really admire you both. I've been listening since I was in my early teens, so I appreciate everything from all the years. Thank you. Anyway, I'm a little... Yeah, of course. So I'm a little, yeah, of course.

So I'm calling. My question is twofold. I've recently started dating a guy who is wonderful. He's empathetic, caring, kind, patient, really different so far from men I've dated in the past. But it's become, yeah. But it's become apparent that he's a problem drinker. And looking over my dating history, I have consistently been drawn to guys

who have some kind of addiction. Either they're alcoholics or problem drinkers, potheads, coke users. What's your definition of a problem drinker? Like getting drunk all the time. Okay. I mean, not like he puts together two weeks and then goes on a binge. Not that kind of.

I'm just curious what problem drinkers. Yeah, no, not. binge not that kind of or i'm just curious what problem drinkers yeah no not you know i think it's pretty typical for people to get drunk once in a while but um i'm talking about guys who drink every day and usually to excess yeah you know as i as i as i think about this kind of stuff you have kids and you think about what you hope for them and all that kind of stuff um you know having someone who's strung out on pills or any sort of substance abuse yeah any uh any any form of addiction any form of addiction you know hey i'm a huge backstreet boys fan and i you know i'm going on tour every time they go on tour, I quit my job. You know what I mean?

Like any of that is insanely – it's weird. It's not – Drew's not going to like this term, but it's wildly disrespectful to your partner. You know, this thing where you go like, I need 100 Prozac a day to function or I need to go follow the Backstreet Boys. It's like you're really not holding up your end of the relationship bargain. That's true. With that sort of whatever that is.

Well, you've got to remember that with Alcoholics Addicts, they love the alcohol and the drugs more than anything else. Yeah. That's why the relationship doesn't get priority. But the guys who bury themselves in fantasy football every football season, and it literally becomes a part-time job to keep up the three fantasy leagues they're in. What about the workaholic? The workaholic is bringing home money. That's our version of addiction.

We defend that one, huh? No, I don't defend that one. Yes, I do defend it. How dare you? No, look, if somebody wants to go home and come home with a sack of money, that's fine. As long as you're, it's not to the point where everything else be damned. Yeah, I guess. So stop it.

But it's all detrimental. And so that is a bad, for you. But her question was why she tried to. And so usually, customarily, that is one of two sources. One is mom or dad, particularly dad, had an alcoholic tendency, even if he didn't drink, if he was just that genetic makeup, because it is a distinct genetic profile. Or you yourself, not necessarily you, but one is also an alcoholic and just wants a co to drink with. That's the other reason.

What do you think? What's your version? Well, I was hoping you wouldn't bring those things up. Yeah, both of my parents have, I would say, functional addicts or alcoholics. All right, so that's your experience of love. That's your love we call template or map is with the people that are configured that way. You didn't get that gene, but you still love people with that gene. And that's not going to go away.

That doesn't really go away, which is what's interesting. Now, you can choose not to go after that. You know, you can sort of, when you feel the lightning bolts, know that, okay, that must be an alcoholic addict, even though that person has never drunk before. I just know my feeling around those kinds of people, and I don't want to do that again. Or you can go with it and, you know, hope somebody gets into recovery or find somebody who is in recovery, and even then you don't know if they're going to stay in recovery. Oh, my God.

Well, Drew, can I ask a follow-up? Yeah. How do you know? Because like I said, or I think I said, these guys are all different. Yeah, but listen, listen. You didn't hear me. You didn't hear me. You're the perfect instrument. If

you feel attracted to them the way you've, that lightning bolt feeling, for sure that person has the gene. For sure. Yeah, it's sad. You're a perfect instrument. Catch 22. Yeah. Now you can go for things that are not quite so interesting, not so exciting, but you may

not like that. It's an interesting dilemma that people have. Do you have a baby with one of these people? Well, yes, my ex-husband, or soon-to-be ex-husband. I know, it's kind of dramatic. But, yeah, heavy drinker. He had a Percocet addiction. I mean, you can choose to stay in with one of these people

and just, you know, see how they do and be in love with them in whatever form they take and go to Al-Anon and do your own work and take care of yourself and let their disease play out as it may? You know, it's a tough situation. Or find somebody that's not quite so exciting. As I think about how easy it is to fall into these cycles these days. Because so many people are addicted to stuff, too. Well, look at it this way. We used to be able to find people that weren't addicted, had the gene, but weren't addicts. Now they all manifest.

Well, let's put it this way. Yeah. Everybody, most everyone, not saying the addict gene, I'm just saying most people are born with a sort of capacity or sort of a leaning toward leisure, ease of what have you. Look, if somebody says, what would you rather do would you rather go uh hunt a buffalo skin a buffalo fillet a buffalo and cook a buffalo steak or i could call i could get you a buffalo burger yeah have it delivered right now okay so 99.9 percent of the world goes i'll take the burger now yeah okay so but in the past well that wasn't on the table, pardon the pun. That's not a choice. Yeah.

But what about the Buffalo to table pipeline? What about it? What about it? It wasn't a choice. By the way, you guys notice how the school to prison pipeline's gone away? Like the Huffington Post was convinced that it existed six years ago and now they never bring it up ever again. So what I'm saying-

I want you to find that woman that did the interview with you and go, what's the deal? What about it? Bring her in here for a podcast. I would love it. I'm sure she'd happily come in. I'm sure she'd be a fountain of answers. I bet you can get her on the phone. I don't know that she has a phone.

My point is, when they bring up their next school to prison pipeline, whatever the version is of their next lie, am I supposed to dive in and believe it? Or shall I just do what I do with all the stuff they bring up, which is it's nonsense. It doesn't exist. And here's how I know it doesn't exist. You won't care about it in three years. You'll never talk about it. All right. That's like black mold is everywhere.

Black mold is nowhere. Right. You want me to dive into black mold? No, because it doesn't exist. I mean, I'm not saying mold doesn't exist. Okay. So, quiet. Black mold isn't killing people.

Quiet. Okay, go ahead. Quiet. So, because we're all wired, we're all wired. All right, let's listen to what she has to say about the school-to-prison pipeline. I didn't give you a good answer as to perhaps what he thought maybe some of the systemic causes are.

Systemic, that's another word. You know, leave minority groups in positions where they are more likely to live in poverty and be great advisors. No, I gave him the answer, which is family and education. Traditionally, living in poverty didn't stop anyone from getting a fucking education.

You can get educated. It has nothing to do. There are whole nations that are educated in poverty. You can get. It's the parent involvement. Yeah, I get that. But being poor doesn't mean you can't go to the schoolhouse and learn to read. But anyway, go ahead. Let's hear her excuses.

I'll get out of this mess. And he said it was much more complicated than that. But that is a little more complicated than that than just saying family and not much. Oh, but come on. I mean, it's a system where I like your posture, which is. Oh, but come on. Like, come on what? Family and education. That'll work to get your group out of poverty. And her thing was like, well, wait a minute. Hold on. No answers.

Come on. I like that she chose to say, oh, but come on, as if she was saying. Yeah, but still. Yeah, none of this. None of this. All right, let it run out. It is much harder to get out of a certain income bracket if you're born into it. If you live in a certain neighborhood, that affects the quality.

That's why you have to focus on family and education. I mean, I'm not Christian or anything. It's not going to solve everything. It would solve everything, yeah. Just family and education? What about the drug war that we have that's failing? What about the school-to-prison pipeline, things like this? drug war that we have that's failing.

What about the school-to-prison pipeline? Things like this. The school-to-prison pipeline, if you focused on education, I think would interrupt the school-to-prison pipeline. Unless they're physically a pipeline. Maybe not focusing on education so much as they are on reprimanding children.

All right, sweetheart. You have no answers. And by the way, you're a racist because you don't think folks of color can do anything about their lot and that's amy horowitz's stuff of course you're racist of course it's a it's an elitist yeah it's an elitist then racist thought i think people of any color in any background can work hard focus on education and family and lift themselves out of whatever she thinks she doesn't.

You need her to get out of it. Well, you don't need her. You need my tax dollars to fix it, which by the way, never fixes anything. Point is this, Drew. Since nobody ever wants to go out and hunt a buffalo and we all want a buffalo burger brought to our table, and now we're living in a world where a Buffalo burger can be brought to your table and

you can get high by taking a pill. You don't have to go into the woods and make a still or suck on fermented berries. Or frog's eyeballs. Or frog's eyeballs or anything like that. It is, since everything is so easy and then you turn on your Internet and there's porn on four corners of the Internet.

We must now make. Being the captain of our own ship, our own life coach, our own Arlie Ermey. We must be our own drill instructor 24-7. You no longer can go, well, I'm just going to stay home today and see how the day unfolds. Because there's Grubhub and porn and Vicodin and everything else. And you're now in a situation where I physically, I won't sit home alone. I don't have many opportunities to, but if I do. You'll tear your penis off. I'll tear my penis off, and I might come gunning for yours.

Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah. No. What if I'm not alone? What I'm saying is I will get up and go. I'm taking the dog for a walk. Tell me when you'll be alone next time. I'll go take the dog for a walk, a long walk, and then I'll get in the car and I'll go into the shop, even if I don't need to.

The point is just sitting home in your apartment alone these days is not what it was in the 20s. You also know once you go down, you ain't stopping. Right. Yeah. If I sit in front of the TV, it's not going to be for half an hour. Right. So make, start, you've got to be your own drill sergeant. You've got to make your own rules.

We need like an Arlie Ermey like moniker. Like a, like a, like a. Four minutes ago he had no idea who he was. Oh no, I'm totally into it now. Now he wants a button. I want a button. Thanks for listening to another installment of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. New episodes drop on Saturdays, so don't forget to check back weekly.

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