The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Be Thirsty (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show)

Episode Date: March 8, 2025

Adam and Drew open the show discussing Adam's recent birthday celebration and how Adam feels about birthday celebrations in general. Later, Adam tells a story about a curiously thoughtful birthday gift he received from a family member. They also take listener phone calls on marijuana use when trying to conceive and a situation where one person was hiding an STD from their partner.

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Theirs, yes. That's right. Thank you in advance for telling a friend and enjoy the show. and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on no choice but to get it on mandate. Get it on. Welcome to the program. Good to see you there Dr. Drew. Mr. Kroehler, what's going on? Oh, let's see. Just off of celebrating my birthday. Oh, yes. You know, it's weird.

This great conversation about halfway into. We were eating. I was with my family. OK. We're eating. We're eating. Flesh it out. Like you had a family restaurant or you had a dinner special?

Yes, family restaurant or you go to a restaurant? Yes, family restaurant. And I started, that's one of these things where, you know, when they have like, there should be laws for like family style restaurants, you know, where they serve, I mean, sandwiches and burgers and things, any place you serve burgers. You know, and you go This one not as egregious, you know, you go like Not into the french fries you have the onion rings now we don't have those and

That's fine. But there's places that have five different kinds of onion rings like that sweet potato onion rings What? Yeah sweet potato onion rings You know seen I'm sorry sweet potato french fries. Yeah, sweet potato onion rings. You know, I'm sorry, sweet potato French fries. French fries. Sorry. Five different kinds of fries. Yeah, yeah. Curly fries. Oh, for sure.

You know, sweet- Waffle fries. Right, and then they go, how about an onion ring? I'm like, nah, we don't do those. And I think if you do more than one kind of French fry, you should have an onion ring. Because the onion ring is better than the French fry, depending on what kind of mood you're in. As usual, you're onto something, because the next wave of sort of gourmet fried foods, the onion ring is better than the french fry, depending on what kind of mood you're in. As usual you're onto something because the next wave of gourmet fried foods, the onion

ring. There's going to be 12 different kinds of onion rings now. They're going to screw it up. There'll be passion fruit onion rings. And then there's this one, which this should be federally mandated, where you go, all right, give me the burger and some coleslaw. Oh, we don't have coleslaw. I just think it's just one of those things you should have. If you serve burgers, if you serve all the food that the

coleslaw goes with, like when you serve the club sandwich and all the stuff where you'd be liable. Look, if you're in Hungarian place or Moroccan place, you don't need the coleslaw. But if you're doing the five sandwiches that go best with coleslaw, I'm going to need some slaw, baby. But the way things are today, you can't just do coleslaw. You got to do the champagne coleslaw, the passion fruit. Oh, it's passion fruit currants in there. Passion fruit currants, yeah.

Yeah, and bits of cranberry. So we were sitting there and kids were doing their thing and my wife said, you got your birthday coming up tomorrow. And I said, yeah. And she goes, well, you know, what's with the, uh. And I said, I realize I've turned into like Vince Lombardi, you know. I said, I'm trying to put my finger on what it is why I'm not nuts about birthdays. Vince Lombardi? Well, I do a lot.

You know what I do a lot of We get in all these stupid conversations of you know, the kids and the tutor and then you know And then they come up these stupid studies You know kids that learn to play the glockenspiel Before the age of 10 have a higher chance of getting into an Ivy League school and it's like I just keep going I want them to have grit. I want to have grit. I want to have grit I want to be tough if they're tough and they have grit. I want them to have grit. I want them to be tough. If they're tough and they have grit and they have a certain intestinal fortitude, basically

you knock them down and they get back up and they dust themselves off and they say, I'm fine, let's do it again. Then that's what I want. If they fall off and they go, oh, I'm scared and I'm never going to do it again, then they're fucked. I don't give a shit about the tutors. I don't give a shit about them listening to classical music and the womb and the baby Einstein and all this shit. I want them to be tough. Shut up.

And I want them to have fucking grit. And then people tweet me shit because we talk about it on the show. And, you know, they have some... Tweet me one of these TED Talks things and it's just Asian broad who's a teacher and an analyst and blah, blah, blah. And she said, number one thing, grit. Number one. Number one. Number one. Forget about IQ.

Forget about study habits. Forget about smart. Did she call it grit? She called it grit. She said, number one, it's grit. You show me someone with grit. Students with grit, whatever, they excel. People in the workplace excel.

That's all I tell them. Where do they get that? Well, I'll tell you where they don't get it. Government. They don't get it from the government. they don't get it from the school. I mean, my kids telling me about the other day how they had a walking recess and they have cool down zones, and I'm like, that ain't great, baby. Walking recess. I said, what the fuck is a walking recess?

For kids. For seven-year-olds. Six and a half. Now, it's confusing. Is that meant to, that they're supposed to bring it down a notch or is that them exercising, which is it? It's confusing. No, if the thermometer says more than 87 degrees, they have to walk, you know, maybe it's 90, but the point is, and you and I both know

that we ran our asses off. No sunblock, no bottled water, no tote with water in it, no hydration station, no cool down zone. We ran our asses off in the sun, in the noon sun all day and at some point you got to suck off the hose or drink from the drinking fountain that a piece of gum shoved into it. Thank you delightful human being. I'm sure you're doing wonderful things as an adult now. But that was it, and then ran in the sun a little more. And then that was that. No one had to walk.

Let's remind ourselves again, you and I were in a time when it was like they restricted access to water. No, no, give you cramps. Stop it. Get away. At the end of the practice. Maybe. So I had this moment which I realized, all right, I just got to, I know. This is stupid though. Listen, I'll tell you what it was. I'll tell

you what I always thought it was. What I always knew it was. And then I'll tell you what happened. I always knew that all the running we did and I mean For those of you who aren't from this neck of the woods the San Fernando Valley Me from North Hollywood drew from Pasadena in the dog days of summer. We all experienced it I think last September, you know, that's when two days would start with football practice it it's not Phoenix hot but it ain't far off Phoenix hot it's it's 108 degrees and hot I mean it's not wherever you're from it doesn't have the humidity but in terms of the temperature it's it's up there there's three or four places in the United States that are higher, but not many. I mean, this is you know, it'll go 112113 in the

San Fernando Valley and it'll be practiced. We'd practice be 105 degrees be two two a days and they restricted water and the reason they restricted water they kept saying it's bad for you. You'll cramp up which it had no science to it whatsoever. If you remember, it was during my tenure anyway, it started evolving over like by the time I was a senior in high school, it's like,

well we don't want you to get used to this because you're not gonna get it on the field. They became that. Yeah, there was a lot of this is the fourth quarter but I was like the fourth quarter's been going on for two hours now, when is it gonna be, what happened to the first quarter where we get to go half speed?

Do we go on defense once in a while. Yeah, they beat the shit out of you and they say no water now they'd say no water because you're going to cramp up but really I knew it at the time they were trying to toughen you up. Yeah, they wanted grit. They wanted you to be worse than hungry. Hey, this guy's hungry. uh-uh, thirsty, he's thirsty. You know they do, well honestly you can go, you're a doctor, you can go a week and a half without two weeks without eating, but you can't go without fluid. So it's funny because they go,

oh this guy's got the eye of the tiger, he's hungry, uh-uh, he's thirsty. More immediate, more than twice I would say. I mean, you know, I would, you know, somebody will tell me I'm wrong, but you can probably go twice as long without eating maybe more than you can without drinking. I think more.

I think more. But we need to rephrase the aphorisms, though. What's it going to be? You've got to be thirsty. You've got to be thirsty, man. Yeah. You've got to be thirsty for success. It's got to be the tongue of the tiger.

It's lapping up that stream water. So they made you tough by depriving you of water and they knew, they had to know that nine and ten and twelve year olds running in a circle and sweating through their uniforms that a sip of water wasn't going to hurt them in the 70s and 80s. I mean come on now, it's just math. But they wanted to make you tough and they wanted you to have grit. So we were talking about it and that's all I ever care about for my kids you and your wife are talking about it Yeah, sorry. We were talking about it and you know, it's all about we have Your birthday to the kids. No the problem with my birthday was I said I'm all over the road

But I said, yeah, I don't enjoy my birthday. And part of the reason I don't enjoy it is because I'm uncomfortable with the attention. And then B, my family's weird and stilted, and they'll call up and I'll have an uncomfortable conversation, usually with a parent or two, or not pick up the phone, depending on how the caller ID is working. But it's just, I don't like it.

Like it. Let me, when I first became aware of that with you, we were in Las Vegas doing the up, what they call them, the NAPI, the sort of selling a TV show. We went to just like a tent where they're selling it. And some big shot from some company said, hey Adam, I got a friend who grew up in North Hollywood

or something and Steve Kahila. You were like Steve Kahila you know Steve Kahila and then you you got like really uncomfortable because like the whole room turned to you yeah and you were like and and you seemed fine and afterwards you told me like that was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever been through. I'm like why because you knew the same guy you knew Steve Kahila yeah and he was like no no when the attention goes towards me I I don't like it. Uh Well, I have a weird relationship every attention. Yes, I remember that and I remember what I remember 20 years

It's a crazy name you pulled out He's been a couple movies I knew him at the groundlings the Certain kind of I'm okay with a certain kind of attention. I'm not okay with other kinds of attention. And now this is where we get down to it. Anything that's strictly about you or your life, no go. No.

I realize that being born is not a great feat. That almost everyone I'm having a conversation with was born at some point on a particular day On a particular day and that that day gets celebrated. Okay, so I'm gonna make sure we get this Well, I didn't get this all out in the conversation because Lynette sort of gave me the oh Jesus Christ It was enjoy something, you know, but hitler and Manson have a birthday Your worst enemy has a birthday. Everyone who's ever came before you and will come after you will have a birthday. There's no achievement to it.

It's a participation trophy. So after it's literally the ultimate participation. Eleven we should stop celebrating birthdays. I don't I it's weird but celebrating being born is is pretty narcissistic in a weird way. To be fair, it's just a moment to acknowledge that person who may not get much acknowledgement the whole year. To go, hey, it's you. My kids are doing great in acknowledgement.

But it's you we're happy you're here. We're happy we're born. Yes. I realized, well, so I had two thoughts. One is I started in on, look, here's me point. Hey, Popeye. What the hell happened here? My point is- You've been on this pirate ship too long. Here's me point.

Matey. Matey, my birthday present for me from my wife- That you paid for. Oh, yeah. Goes without saying. Is a big picture. She did that thing where she took a photograph and she put it on canvas. You know, that sort of thing.

It's a big picture of me spraying champagne up on top of the podium. I'm in love with it. Because that's me spraying champagne on top of the podium. If every human being that was ever born has a picture of them spraying champagne on top of a podium, then I'm not interested. And then people go, but that's you spraying champagne on top of the podium. And I go, yeah, but if everybody else has that picture, if everyone

can say there's a picture of you in a driving suit standing in front of a Toyota step and repeat spraying a huge bottle of champagne over your head, then that picture becomes meaningless immediately. Do you feel that way? I get that, yeah. So for me, I'm in love with that picture. That makes me sort of a narcissist, like, oh, I love it. Oh, look at that.

I love it. It was a fun moment. Yeah. Great moment. And then the birthday, but the reason why I got the picture, not so I started and I realized very quickly this is a. You started in on Lynette about this? No, no.

Okay. I started when we were eating. I started in on. On Lynette. Yeah. Like I just, I don't like, you know, I feel, here's how weird I am. When I get a card in the mail for my birthday, I oftentimes don't open it for weeks. Yeah. Sometimes Lynette says, open the fucking card already.

You know, like it's just going to be a card that says happy birthday, love you, whoever. And I still feel weird. I still feel like I dread opening it. Let me dig. Go ahead. Dig. Go ahead. Dig. Go ahead. There's a perspective on this.

I get how much you don't like this. No, I don't. It's not that much. But I stopped. Just hold on a second. Let me bring this around. I stopped. I said I started to go in on this thing where I don't like birthdays because you don't earn

birthdays. You're just giving them. And then you're celebrated. And I'm 49. Come on, what do I need? What do I want? I'm fine. It's OK.

And then I stopped myself. And I went, and I thought about it. And I thought, maybe being born is the ultimate in a weird way. Maybe it's the only thing we should celebrate. It's the only thing we celebrate. Get That's the only thing we should celebrate. Get rid of everything else. Well, it does kind of pale in comparison to Arbor Day or even Easter, the fact that you're on this planet.

That evolution has evolved to the point that you were created. Yeah. Yeah. And I agree. In a way, it's sort of the ultimate expression of everything. Yeah, so I just shut up.

I shut up. But go ahead. I'm sure you didn't. Go ahead. But dig. There's a perspective on this that I had to start taking that there's a little bit of a narcissistic veneer in this. It's sort of an anti-narcissism.

You don't like the attention. You don't like being singled out. You don't like, I don't need it. I don't need it. But there's a part of it where the other person, particularly your female partners, like there's a part of them invested in you responding positively to this. I learned this once when Susan was cooking for me, and I was like, just don't bother. I don't need to eat that.

You make a big deal when you get home. I'm not hungry, really. She got crushed by that because this was her expression of something that I need to receive and acknowledge that part of her that's giving me that. Do you understand the reciprocity of that? Yes, I understand it. Yes, reciprocity. So that's a part you've got to take in.

Understood. No, I had a weird moment. I had a weird moment where for my birthday my nephews came over, my sister and my brother-in-law. And my sister, this is a funny moment, she brought an ice cream cake, but it was just in a cake box or pie box. I didn't know what it was. And then she set it on the counter. And then about an hour in, we started something.

She went, oh my God, we gotta eat that cake now. And I said, well, let's just eat it after. She said, no, it's an ice cream cake. Like she, it dawned on her. Like, so she said. So. By the way, where does ice cream cake fit into your spectrum between pie and sheet cake?

It's a welcome novelty. It seems weird. Not pie. Close to pie? It's a whole different. It's a novelty. That's the whole thing. It's a bizarre, weird.

Crème brûlée or something. Yeah, it's weird. It's not for all the time. You never eat it. You never eat it just on a Thursday night at home. I think I'll have some ice cream cake. All right, got it. But she said to Lynette, let's get some candles.

And I said, oh, no, no, no, no, no. We don't. It's not a bother. And Lynette started looking for birthday candles. And I said, no, no, no. You don't need candles. No, no. And they both looked at me and said, it's for the kids.

And I went, oh.. And I went, ow. And then I went, OK. And I came around like, OK, it's for the kids. And I thought, but wait a minute, it's not their birthday. But anyway, then it was great because we went out in the patio and she couldn't get them lit. So my wish was the candles were lit when I blew out

unlit candles. That was a good point that you brought it up, which I just brought up, which is I don't want candles. They're not for you. Yeah. The kids get to watch you blow out the candles and then they get their fun. Similar spectrum with that. Yeah, it's very similar. I want to go back to grit though, because the real grit stuff, all that bullshit that happens young, that's for parents of young kids who are anxious and want to do something. When they get older, you look back and that stuff and go, oh, fuck, that didn't make a goddamn bit of difference.

You mean all the classical music. All the listening to Beethoven and whatever the fuck. It just means nothing later on. Because it gets so much more competitive and so intense. And there's so many steps along the way that have to go right that just one misstep, and it's just like, who gives a shit what you listened to when you were five? What do you mean one misstep? Like a failed test when you're in sophomore year changes a lot of stuff.

The point is, you wait till you guys are there. Your wife is going to be all over this stuff. Believe me, it's competitive. I know, but that's still not going to make a difference. stuff. The point is you wait till you guys are there. Your wife is going to be all over this stuff. Believe me, it's competitive. I know, but that's still not going to make a difference. But let me point, the point I'm making though is that's where the real grit comes in, is like dealing with that adversity, problem solving. Like you can't solve that problem, sit there until you do, man. I know it's miserable. I know it's off. Figure that out. That's the real gritty stuff. No problem.

But problems are, write that paper. Problem solving, very interesting and a part of your brain that is not really put into action when you're busy doing a whole bunch of other stuff. You know, I also noticed there's a few things. People don't do problem solving and they're not, there's there's a couple things I'd like my my kids to be which is awake. You know my kid, my my son at least, you know, he'll just, we'll be sitting in the room watching TV, the light will be kind of dark, dim down and he'll go, there's a spider on the ceiling and he's looking at the TV

Your son does that? Yeah, my son does that. Oh, he got your thing. Yeah, he notices He's he's awake and while it will make you miserable because you live With a bunch of people who just walk this earth, you know Like the damned like if you feel you start feeling like you're just living with Like if you feel you start feeling like you're just living with Somewhere between the damned and zombies or just people roam the earth just walking in a circle and and you'll go through your whole life Going hey the signals changed wake up tooting on a horn You know, you can turn right on a red huh toot on the horn What you'll go insane because you'll just go through the, you'll be surrounded by those

people, the people who leave the lid off the mayonnaise jar and put it back into the fridge, you know, at the company, all this. And all I'm ever saying with that, Drew, is I don't care about living with the damned. I want the consistent damned. You want them always asleep. I don't think you do that. I don't think you leave the microwave door open and the mayonnaise lid off the mayonnaise jar at home. I suspect you don't do that at home. You and your motivational thing.

This is my compromise. Yeah, this is my, I don't care if you're out of it all the time but I don't think you do that when you get home and I don't want two different use I mean I don't want the you in society hey I throw my gum wherever I want I leave the cap up on the on the company catch up I'll piss all over the seat I'll not bother lifting it up that's the societal you and then there's the you at home. Treating your shit a different way. If they pee on the seat at home, it's cool. At least it's consistent or at least that's who you are. Because I'm saying, Drew, that

when the chasm between you at home and you in society gets spread out too much, we got an issue. Right. I agree with that. Yeah. You know, I have an episode. Is it up now, the Alan Shore episode? Not yet.

Okay. It'll be, find out what episode number that is. A guy who's a very, one of my heroes, a famous neurobiologist, and we were talking about you and your hyper alertness and all that stuff. Does he drive an NSX? No. That's not that guy. Different guy.

All right. And he was talking about, we were talking about the low pulse. He was like, you have a slow pulse. And he was saying that this vagal tone, meaning this slow down from the central nervous system, is associated with creativity and right brain and metaphor. Thinking in metaphor rather than thinking in linear language. He thought that was fascinating that you use a lot of metaphor, that you're creative, that you're hypervigilant.

He felt that all kind of went together with this high vagal tone. The high vagal tone is the vagus nerve, which is the parasympathetic outflow from the nervous system. And it tends to also be sort of indoctrinated through a neglect because you never get the arousing emotions. You just get the shutdown stuff. But you don't actually shut down. It's not like you were terrorized. You just didn't get the rangier, higher tones.

It airs June 12th, by the way, episode 65. Perfect. Well, and then it brings back to us to a point that I'm interested in that when we're talking about parenting, I think downtime, I've discussed this with Dennis Prager on a number of occasions, which is he always says, because it was said to him, if you're bored, you're boring. Meaning you're not bored, you're boring. You're not coming up with anything. I don't want to shit on this, so go ahead. Well look, I'm not saying you lock kids in a mop closet with no mop. But we all remember a lot of dog days of summer where it was time to entertain yourself.

A lot of, and boy did we get creative. I mean, I used to talk to Kimmel about this all the time. Play a lot of Whiffle Ball, and then the Whiffle Ball would break, and it'd be a lot of wiffle ball and then the wiffle ball would break and it'd be a lot of foil ball but it'd just be you and... You'd use rocks too eventually. You just makeshift anything you could makeshift into some form of... I mean it'd be literally, you know, waste basket on one side of the room, you with

ball of foil on the other side of the room. If you go... playing kind of games, if you can make five out of 10, you're fine. But if you miss, you got to get up and go jump into the sprinklers or something and come back again. Like weird, weird little ways to sting yourself, you know, to just to feel the sting or the pain of missing of only going four for 10 on that. Like remember those things? Oh yeah. Go do something stupid with yourself.

Yeah. 10 on that. Remember those things? Oh yeah. If you go do something stupid with yourself. Yeah, yeah. And I feel that dragging kids in front of this never ending moving walkway of activities, just a never ending, where are we doing today? We're going to Legoland and then we're going over to this and we're going to the bouncy castle and we're going to this stuff. My kids sit around and they go, I want to do this. I want to do that. I want to be taken here.

I want to stay there. I want this. I want that. They don't spend as much downtime sort of alone with their thoughts, trying to figure things out. God knows we need more Ray and Chris's in the world. Huh? Oh, well, those guys, those guys, well, those guys did have a fair bit of activity. I mean, you got to realize Ray lived with three brothers in a small apartment. Chris's dad, when he would show up, would do stuff with them.

Yeah, they ran, I mean, they did, they weren't deprived as kids. And then let's not forget they got into sex pretty early and often and that was a pleasant little distraction for them. But they didn't and look some of it is just your hardwiring but I'm saying my kids it is every day at school is such and such a day. It is whatever appreciation day, it is music day, it is whatever day. There's an activity meaning... And they're not junior high school age.

No, they are... It's preschool. Yeah, they are in the first grade. They are a freight train that's just barreling through the wilderness and track is being thrown down in front of them as fast as it can be thrown down. We got a play date, we're going over here. We're going over there. We're involved with this. We're signed up for that.

We're blah, blah, blah, which is good, but realize when you become an adult, you are kind of in charge of your own track length. It's not somebody throwing track out in front of you constantly. You're going to have to get involved with things or not. You should be okay with some of that downtime. Well, if you had grit, you'd figure it out. But here's why I would take issue with the bored thing, which is that boredom, the experience of boredom is a surrogate for many people for depression. That's a symptom of depression.

And a lot of boredom, particularly adolescent boredom, is depression. And so that has to be sort of dealt with a little differently. No, I agree. But the way, like I said, Prager would say, he would literally. Your other boyfriend? How dare you bring him up? Seeing an older man. He would sit at his grandmother's house

and use a stool that was for piano, playing the piano, the round, you know, kind of when you spin on it. Well, just think of, think of, think of literally just a chair that spun around. I, I, I remember that. And how many hours of joy. Yeah. Just on a chair, like literally, no, he sat on a chair.

Yeah, and spun that one. Shush up. He sat on a chair, and he steered it as he was driving a bus. And he would stop and let Mr. Johnson on board, and then sit down and take off again, driving this bus. Just pure downtime. No internet, no any.

My daughter just goes on her tablet and looks for things she wants to buy. Just literally says, I want one of these, I want one of those, I want one of these, I want one of those. Oh man. Oh yeah. Now listen, he may have been sitting there using a stool as a steering wheel and doing nothing, but his brain I felt was activated.

Yeah. Versus. I want one of these, I want one of those, I want one of these. Although I gotta say, you know, the college-age kids today are kicking ass. Yeah, but here's the point. Kicking ass in what? I mean, with the juries still out, we don't know where these people, kicking ass, not if there's another war, they're not gonna be kicking ass. I mean, a real war, you know what I mean? I don't know what they're gonna be kicking ass in 10 years from now. They will be filled with knowledge.

I'm not sure how they will be in relationships and in adversity and things like that. I don't know if the levy breaks, how much ass, how much stacking of the sandbags they're gonna be doing. Okay. We? We'll see we gotta find a levy I feel like a lot of songs have been written about levies without a whole like I feel like levies take levies at least in the 70s

levies were at least 10% of all Rock Song content, but less than 1% of the footprint in North America. And I wonder how many of those guys had ever seen a Levys. I don't, once you, once you, well that's, that's the whole thing. Like if you are going to do, if you're going to invent something something call it levy not funicular nothing rhymes with funicular if you want it in a song if you want if you want shit in a song right like there's been a million songs written about Cadillacs and Chevy's no Duesenberg's even though Duesenberg's a better car you

know you see what I'm saying Edsel No, but that's not a good song. That's not a good car. Does it right well pretzel? Nothing rhymes with Duesenberg. It's it's arguably the greatest American Manufacturer of all time is a Duesenberg everyone agrees American car Duesenberg was an American car. Yeah, I thought it was a German car sounds like it Seriously was an American car. I never knew that built in I don't know Auburn Hills or no I think it's go look everything was built in Indiana The names makes it look like a bit of fancy German car like it makes it look sound like it came from German royalty or something

Well, it's it's back when Yeah, it's Indiana. Oh, Indianapolis Indian oh, yeah, Indianapolis, right? Okay. Yeah All right, it's too confusing. So Wait, where's Auburn Hills? Is that me? Is that probably the Dan plus? That's Michigan Auburn Hills is in Michigan maybe Auburns were built in there all right and so anyway in the end I had no idea it was American cry that's so well first off you say it seems German you got to realize everyone was here was here for

ten minutes so they were all Germans have built it you mean well you get that part of the country, particularly. Well, let's think, you know, this is my problem- Who was Duesenberg? Look that up. This is my problem with what's going on in Los Angeles. When you bring a bunch of people over here from Mexico and you just go set up shop, they just set up shop.

They don't be, they just, whatever. Do what they do. If you're from Germany, if you're from Mexico, if you're from Poland, Poland if you're from wherever you just bring a big pile of people Over and go set up shop. Yeah, they'll just set up shop. Yeah, so these guys Des Moines, yeah. Yeah, but That's not the question where the name come from so so these guys were building maybe German cars Because maybe they weren't, who knows, generationally maybe they just got here.

It looks like something that Gestapo would be driving around in. You know, they had that big, big pipes and stuff, right? Well, they're American, American Frederick in August. Okay, those aren't German? No, they are. They just got, it's not a German car. Yeah, they just got here Yeah, yeah, I started doing what Germans do Like I like shit. Yeah, like you had a restaurant you brought came over here and your family's in that business

You that's what you be you wouldn't be the food from where you were making and Be any product wouldn't be any different. Yeah, you get all your ingredients here and that'd be about it. But um Yeah, Duesenberg and stuff in America used to be made that way. That's the other thing. You wouldn't forget. Made what way? One way, heavy duty. You know what I mean?

That was American made. I mean, Americans were those people and that's how they made it because you go, well, now all that stuff's made in Europe now. But no, no, that's how they made it because you go, well, now all that stuff that's made in Europe now, but no, no, that's who was here. So it's interesting that the first guys came over here from Europe and then they just made stuff like they would have made it in Italy or Germany or whatever it was. And that's sort of what Duesenberg was. But nothing rhymes with Duesenberg. So there's no songs about it. You're going to get one someday? You got doozy. You need to get one.

No, I'm not interested in those kinds of cars. But they're still very... Put a picture up, will you? Very interesting. Very interesting. They just look like big... They look like Rolls Royces. Yeah, they started using aerodynamics before anyone else started getting into it.

You know, Leno's got a bunch of those. I'm not into that. All right. Phone calls. Oh, quick though. Another quick note here. Did you watch that Libračić movie? I did.

What did you think? I liked it. Very comfortable. Oh, there it is. Look at that thing. Yeah. Oh my God. All right.

Where should people go to see this? Well, you could just go Google a picture of a fucking douchebag. You don't need us for that But that is a nice. Oh, yeah all built by hand heavy-duty Heavy-duty probably still run just fine. Just a little bit of oh they're Yeah, they're bulletproof and then those guys who just specialize in It's a busy restoring them. It's a doozy. Oh that where that came from. Yeah Yeah Yeah, if you want to show us some love you want to go the Amazon link at? It's a doozy. Oh, is that where that came from? Yeah. Yeah. I knew.

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And that's in Casablanca, and that's on our show this week. Our website, remember larrymillarpodcast.com, we's back everybody. We have your questions. Drew, you were talking about Behind the Candelabra. Yeah, I was wondering what you thought about that because it was tough to watch. It was interesting. Tough in which way for you? Almost too, not to usurp your term, but too gritty a little bit.

I was watching a lot of people react very negatively to it, particularly people in the music field and homosexuals. They sort of felt like, ugh, didn't really need to see all that. It missed some of the bigger, more important things about his life. It just explored this one area and yes, it was crazy, but really he was a, I think he was a protege of a famous Polish musician and things that just didn't even get brought up. Well, it also, well, it basically, funny, interesting, but I was thinking about this the other day with my birthday, which

is one of these couple things. My sister and brother-in-law showed up with a birthday present. That sounds, doesn't sound weird to you, but if you're a Corolla, that's very weird stuff. Very weird. And I don't buy presents for anyone in my family. They don't buy presents for me either. So it was exceedingly weird that somebody handed me something. But it was one of those snap into focus things where the Corolla is no one buys anything for anyone and that's fine. We have a sort of tacit agreement which is I don't have to get you anything. You drew, you and I have the same thing. Yeah.

Our started, you know, probably about age nine, but either way, we had the agreement, nobody gets anyone anything. And it's good. It's the bad news is you don't get anything. The good news is, is when their turn comes around, you don't have to give anything. Also, this present comes up, hands it to me. And I said, huh, what is this? And I remember thinking, same thing I thought about Lynette getting out the buffing compound to get the scuff off the side of her car. I was like, what the hell is this? What the hell is this?

So something happened. And I went, we're Corollas. We don't do this. Did you say that out loud? No. I just thought, Jesus. This is the way we roll. And it's funny, as I was tearing it open, it was a poster.

It was a poster of the Mole People, which is a movie my grandfather, my step-grandfather wrote. That's cool. I still started thinking, way un-Corolla-like. And then- Especially un-Corolla-like. It's thoughtful and it's meaningful. It's a real gift.

Brother-in-law piped up and said, I was at a swap meet and I saw, I came across this thing so I bought two of them, one for you and one for your sister and then it all went pow. Oh, okay. It's not a Corolla thing. Not a Corolla thing. It's a Jensen thing. Yeah, he's from Germany. He's normal. But it was like, as soon as I found out he was at a swap meet, ran across this two thing, bought two of them, pow.

And listen, I'm as bad as everyone else in my family. It just made sense. Yeah, you're not blaming your sister. It's just- No, it's just that's the way we roll. It's just he ran across at a swap meet and immediately snapped into focus. If your sister had been in therapy for 10 years and this was some sort of an expression of her progress, you go, oh, interesting.

But no, no. It's just the brother-in-law. Right, but it made focus. But the point is this. My grandfather hated that because he made some piece of, you know, he was just basically some gun for hire to write this, I think this, you know, campy piece of shit, 40s, 50s, sci-fi B movie and now he's he's not remembered for this but if his name comes up it's attached to the mole people now he's written many plays and was nominated for an Academy Award way back in the day but this is this is what the the guy who was nominated for the Academy Award is not memorized for that.

He is memorialized for the mole people. There it is. Is that the thing that got you? Yeah, with Lazlo Gorog, the man who wrote The Mole People. So Liberace was an incredible piano player whose history will go down as a sexual addict. Well, right. He was supposed to have been a really profound classical pianist of his time. He realized he wouldn't make as much money doing that, so he went this campy way and

started rolling with it. I blame the 70s. This is going to sound like a stretch perhaps, but you get what I'm talking about. It's like plastic surgeons, a drug addict, hey man, whatever you're into, we'll fix you. Oh, you wanna look like your partner? Fine, we'll fix that, we'll do that.

Hey man, we cannot judge. We cannot judge. And also, Coke, you know, it's funny, as I was watching it, Coke wasn't really bad for you. No, it wasn't considered bad for you. It wasn't considered addictive either. No, it was basically considered bad. Wasn't considered addictive either. No, it was basically Coke was basically caviar

for your nose, man Dig dig no if you could afford it and you know most of us couldn't but if you could afford it and you're and And also if you're having a lavish party This would be something that you would offer to your guests. Right, because it was not dangerous, not addictive. It was like alcohol. No, and really in the setting of a party, almost just like offering them a cocktail.

Right, and then the pills the doctor was giving them, because you're drug addict, it's just a fucking mess. Yeah, and also it was weird. It was funny how many people just smoked casually. It's weird in these movies and it's unclear because I feel like a lot of people just sort of smoked socially. They would have. It was important to be seen with a cigarette.

Yeah, it was part of the social sort of... Here's what I'm saying. We're having a party. You need to look like you're part of this party and a highball little cocaine and a cigarette in your hand is going to make you fit the part. People would have on their... I mean first off there's two things. If a guy went up, if a guy had lit up a cigarette, he'd do the thing for you too.

Hey, cigarette, hold the thing out. People had cigarette dispensers just on their coffee table next to a huge lighter that never worked. But I mean, it was like, you just pull a cigarette out, like sort of socially, like they'd put dips and chip out. Chips out. The other thing I saw in Mad Men on Sunday was the, if a woman picks up a cigarette, you jump to light it. That's etiquette. You light their cigarette. You don't take a beat. If you miss the beat, you've done something rude. Right. Yeah. Simpler times.

So, uh... Well, I blame the seven. I wasn't... But I'm telling you, there will be movies... What were the gay guys... Twenty years from now, there will be movies about people getting pain prescriptions and all the shit that's going down now making fun of the way people and too many antidepressants and things. Believe me, that's how it's going to look in 20 years.

I thought Michael Douglas and Matt Damon were both incredible. Yeah, amazing. And everyone's... And Rob Lowe, I thought, stole the show. He was great. And boy, the sets, the cars, the design, pretty unbelievable. Now the gay stuff, who's upset about that? I didn't really read that.

I just heard that they were just sort of, it seemed unfair to sort of gloss over it the way it was. It's a little more... You mean just make that the focus of the whole thing? That and it made it looks, I don't want to say salacious. There was no sort of exploration, a deeper exploration. I don't know. I haven't read any criticism yet. I just know it's out there. But I did read the musical industry's critics. There was a music critic that was all upset. And I thought, that's a good point. I mean, this guy could talk all day about

classical music. He was a scholar He was an expert. He was a world-class musician Yeah, who made a fortune doing this stuff. Well, you know the problem as is for every movie is You know you have two hours Yeah, you have a tell story and the story of the mole people is more interesting than you writing plays in Hungary Yeah, you know what I mean? There needs to be some scandal there. And it's to the point, and I would warn my kids of this,

you'll be remembered for this thing or that thing. You know what I mean? It's like, I swear to God, Bobby Knight will be remembered as the guy who chucked the chair not as a guy who's you know top five all-time winning basketball coaches on the planet you know you forget that these guys even you know you do one thing yeah you know I all you know the greatest act actors of Broadway ended up in bad 70s sitcoms and then I played the wacky neighbor oh no no she's one of the biggest stars of

the 40s you know like that you kind of there's only so much room for us to remember people. Well, you do something stupid or you do something whatever you just become that person. What's interesting to me is that the mass consciousness creates cartoon characters out of humans. You get remembered for, you remembered for being a cartoon character. That's what has the highest sort of recall. Yeah, yeah. I'll be remembered for hating women. No, no. Saying that women don't. Yeah. Yeah, they're not comedians. They're not funny. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's just be this misogynist, Adam Carolla died. Yeah, that'll be it. You used to have to be able to, you used to have to do something to a woman. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Or to anybody. To be that person. You don't have to do it anymore. They'll just create it. It'll be fine. I'll give you a good example. I'll give you a fine example with me. I say all kinds of horrible things about the gays and then I say all sorts of great things about the gays. I say tons of great things. That's all that's in my book. You need gay people need to move in. They should be given tax credits for not having kids and cleaning up neighborhoods and blah blah they don't commit any crime and blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know we'd be in a much safer, better society.

It's never printed, it's never discussed. If I say, and I won't give myself this ratio because I'm not this good, but I'll say seven nice things about every three bad things about gay people, it's only the three bad things. There's whole groups out there that's convinced I hate gays. Never mind the fact that I say good things about them constantly and never stop. I mean, I just do the math.

I've said it for a million years, go look at Santa Monica Boulevard, go look at it over at Western in Santa Monica. It's a fucking dump. It looks like Tijuana and then go down toward, I don't know, La Cienega. Looks like a fucking country club because gay folk hang out there. But that's never, that part of the narrative. In other words, it wouldn't make sense to be nuanced. You know what I mean? Just Adam

hates gays. And it's supposed to be organizations that are thoughtful, that take the deepest dig. Not interested in any of the positive things. No, they're interested in having an enemy. Right. Well, not even having one, creating one. It just seems to me if you want to, isn't being collaborative the way people should want to be?

I don't know. There's pages in my book dedicated to why gay people need to essentially be spread out and colonized so that we can take over. I've seen Silver Lake. I've seen what Silver Lake looked like before gay people got there and what it looks like now. It's safe, it's clean, and the property values have gone up tenfold. But that part's not discussed because that's not part of the narrative. The gay joke, you know, I make a joke about Chaz Bono, now we got something. So it just shows that people aren't interested. But it doesn't fit. We all do it. I understand it.

It's just- We got to get organizations in here that take aim at you or me in here just to talk. They're not interested in that. They don't want you to become a human being. Rob? Yeah. That being said, they can all fuck themselves. Or fuck each other, I guess.

I don't give a shit. Go ahead, Rob. So my wife and I are trying to conceive. We both are heavy pot smokers. We've been smoking every day for 15 years, and we drink a bottle of wine every night. And just wondering what kind of effect that might have on us trying to conceive. Well, for her, that's child abuse. I mean, you're going to feel alcohol syndrome. So

she... And that... That's not okay. The alcohol with her, she has to cut out the alcohol. That is number one. For trying to conceive. Well, listen, if she succeeds in conceiving and doesn't know about it for a few weeks, that's not okay. All right.

So, you need to stop drinking. That's number one, okay? She needs to stop drinking. She needs to stop drinking. You drink hers. You, and by the way, we don't know the effects of pot on pregnancy. It's certainly not as bad as alcohol. Alcohol must stop.

For you, if you're having trouble conceiving, it can affect sperm account and whatnot and its testosterone levels. The pot, on the other hand, is more the issue for you, perhaps. Yeah, but just in general, emotionally, the every day, you know, here's, here's what I say. I don't know where Drew comes down on this. I've said it many times. If you have 160 IQ brain and we smoke pot every day, you knock yourself down to 125. And that's just kind of where you live.

It's fine. But if you're a little bit marginal to begin with and you smoke pot every day, you've now dialed yourself down to semi-retard. And that's been my experience. I know intelligent people. Like there are guys like Bill Maher. Bill Maher is a very bright guy. And he smokes a lot of weed.

And he remains very bright. But I'm also sure that he does it in a way that he's managed to work for him, which is part of being a very intelligent guy. But I also know dumb guys who smoked a lot of weed, and it does not sharpen their instrument. Right, it doesn't sharpen their, but it probably doesn't affect their cognition. It just prevents them from applying the cognition.

Okay, and so I'm saying if a guy's got a lot of energy and a lot of grit, pot's not going to do that much to them. It doesn't affect cognition. It doesn't affect intellect. It really doesn't. No, but it does affect emotional availability. And so you're bringing a child into a world that's pot and alcohol riddled. That's not going to be a very attached child or at least not attuned to the child's needs.

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What do you like? Natalie. Natalie, line three. Natalie? camps dot com promo code eighty s i'd let's do one more drew what do you want with you know that we natalie length natalie so i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i uh... on trying to make my question short um... i haven't seen a guy for about the question here i really really like ten and i think the great guy on but everything can crash in down i found appeal that he dropped on my bedroom for one morning uh... i looked it up online

without track so he had been hiding that from me for several months and i confronted him about it and he just completely broke down and he was like, I thought you would leave me if I found out and I was so ashamed. So I mean, we haven't seen each other for a while but my question is, is this a huge red flag or is this something we could possibly work through? I think you can work through it.

And the part where, you know, there is that fine line and it happens all the time, happens in politics a lot. The crime isn't that great. The cover-up is what people protest to. But in this case, the cover-up is I was scared I was going to lose you. Right. Right. Yeah. So, you know, in that case, I think his intention is wanting to stay with you, right?

Yeah, I think. But her thing is, you know, you expose me to this thing, and in his mind, here's what he probably did in his mind, I'm using a condom, I'm taking the meds, it's very unlikely, and he sort of... Is'm using a condom. I'm taking the meds. It's very unlikely. Is he using a condom? Well, we use condoms 99% of the time, but not all the time. Are you OK? Do you have anything? No.

I've been tested multiple times because I completely freaked out and I had horrible anxiety about it and I've been negative every time. All right. Natalie, why did you freak out? I don't, I think just because of the stigma attached to it. Right, it's the stigma. Yeah, I know, I know, but you said freaked out. But it's interesting, she knew that it was all about the stigma, not about the condition, which is fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was just like a multitude of things because things were showing. had this I had sex when I was about 25

And the person told me afterward that she had herpes and I remember thinking thanks for the sex. I was still Still thankful. I was like well first off. I don't even know what her like I don't know if I get I don't know what herpes is and then secondly I don't care, but I don't get anything what herpes is and then secondly I don't care but I don't get anything. I never got anything. So I was like I didn't get anything but I remember thinking thanks anyway. But Nellie it's a really interesting problem.

If it's a guy you really care about I would say try to forge back in. Yeah. It's just one of these unfortunate things. And get out of the habit of freaking out. I know. Take appropriate actions, but let's not freak out. Whether your car is sliding on an icy road, don't freak out. I could imagine someone could just as easily take the position like this guy's a liar and

he's a manipulator and he's hiding important things from you. Listen, that's if you're making a rom-com. What's a rom-com. What's a rom-com? Romantic comedy. We'll see. I'm not in the writing world. No, I just mean, first off, I think you should be able that you've been with, if you've been

with someone for a while, you should be able to suss them out. You know what I mean? Are they this kind of person? Are they that kind of person? I think we know the difference or you should. This is an important thing in life. We should talk about it in subsequent shows, which is these people that have no internal meter can't tell when someone's a good person or a bad person, can't suss out people they've

been with. This is the cartoon character thinking again, right? They're all bad or all good. Yeah. You like that? Well, what I mean is, it's interesting. It's like, I don't know, I was listening to the news and they were talking about, oh, they're going to get this Trayvon Martin thing going, this trial going, and no discussion of pot smoking or whatever. I don't care about pot smoking,

but you know, the fact that he fought in school, you know, and they go, that's not admissible. And to me, you and I want to know that's the only thing that's admissible because we know people who fight, we know people who don't fight. And if you brought up, you know, Matt the porcelain punisher, Fond Lear, and you went ... Violent dude. Violent dude. You'd go, oh, no way. No, no, forget about it.

No, impossible. But then if you brought up a bunch of guys I went to high school with, you went, oh, that guy punches other guy at a bar, some of them go, eh, eh, I could see him doing that if he had a couple of beers. Yeah, that's that dude. We know those guys. We know the guys that don't yeah, so to me. I do want to know that's the only you know when they do the thing where they go You know they go we have nine one one calls where the wife is screaming

He's gonna kill me from two months ago, and then we found her body in the bathtub and not admissible I'm like no really because to me part part of the mosaic can't Yeah, not and you're not gonna convict a person based on what they did in the past need to know that it's it's not Not only is it admissible. It's it's important. Yeah, I don't know why we have a system where it's like Yeah, that was with his other girlfriend But yeah, I have a bunch of 911 calls with his other girlfriend, and then the one before that screaming is going to kill me. And now we've got a body in the bathtub. Admissible for me.

And by the way, I want it both ways. Because if we live in a society where that's not admissible. You want the good behavior to be admissible too. Well, it is. Yeah. Well, you can obviously, if somebody was squeaky clean and an honor roll student, you can go, this is an honor roll student, never been in trouble with the law, never fight.

That's totally admissible? Fine. So that's all I need to know. Both sides. Both sides. All right. Let's take ourselves a little extendo break. I do appreciate you guys listening,

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