The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Best Of: #015: David Alan Grier

Episode Date: December 25, 2023

David Alan Grier returns and the guys talk football and head injuries as well as taking calls on PTSD, bone marrow donation and Adam’s heroes. Please Support Our Sponsor: The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts

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Thank you. Got to get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on. Get it on. Welcome program. Again, that's Dr. Drew. I'm me. And David Allen Greer, once again, has joined us in the studio. What's cracking? DAG is going to be doing live stand-up at Caroline's. That is just a great room. That is tonight, February 7th through the 9th. Now, is that one show Thursday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday? What?

It's like you're reading my mind. Yeah. Yeah, but then, two shows Saturday. What? Hmm? It's like you're reading my mind. Yeah. Yeah, but then I fly home Sunday. Why? Because I'm nominated for a Grammy. Nice. And I'm doing the Grammy pre-show thing.

Oh, hold on. Nominated for a Grammy. Now, I know you get nominated for Tonys, but tell us about the Grammys. Well, here's really what happened is Porgy and Beth got nominated for the best Broadway soundtrack. People started texting me. They were like, congratulations. I'm like, congratulations for what? It's not like me.

It's like 900 people. And you have a solo in that second act? Of course. I have two or three. But the point is this. You get that one. My manager goes, no, there's been a change to the rules. You know, because it's starring me, Audra, Norm Lewis.

If a Grammy is awarded, we actually get Grammy awards. So, yes, you were nominated. So the week later, ding-a-lings, please welcome Grammy nominated. Your headliner. Oh, yeah. So you do – now, you do do a show Sunday night in Caroline's, right? Oh, you're just doing Friday, Saturday. Oh, you got to come back for the Grammys.

Normally, the schedule is one Thursday, two Friday, two Saturday, and then one Sunday. One Sunday. You know what happened at the Sunday show? Pussy time. So you got nominated. And now you're back and going to the Grammys. Yes, sir. Excited.

And now you're back and going to the Grammys. Yes, sir. Excited. I get a thing from my book publisher, Random House, every once in a while, or so far twice, and says, you know, we need to do something with this Grammy nomination for audiobook. Like, you know, you've got to spearhead something. It's this weird thing where, I don't know if you've experienced this with publishers, but they go- Do they have a Grammy nomination for best audiobook? That's crazy. Yeah, they do. where, I don't know if you've experienced this with publishers, but they go... Do they have a Grammy nomination for best audio book? That's crazy.

Yeah, they do. Well, I don't know. It's like spoken word or something like that. Did you get nominated? No, I didn't because they tell me, you gotta spearhead the movement. And I'm like, the fuck do I know? What does that mean? You didn't get nominated? No, they give it to like Betty White or

something. So you're not in my category. Team up with Audrey. You'll be nominated in life. Well, I just wondered. Yeah, let's figure this out. Let's see if we can figure out who got nominated for spoken word or audio, whatever. I'd like to know that. But they just have books.

It's not really – I don't think it's based necessarily on who the best is or who the funniest is. It's just like who had the initiative and who launched a campaign. Did they? Yeah, I don't know how it works actually. Well, think of it like this. I mean how many Grammys did the Beatles get? I don't think they got hardly any. I'm the Beatles of books.

I agree with that. It has nothing to do with sales or anything. Janice Ian, Ellen DeGeneres. Yeah, see, Ellen DeGeneres has people that do this. Rachel Maddow. No, I think you're wrong, Adam. It has nothing to do with how many little e-books you sell. It has to do with the quality of your work.

Janice Ian. That's why you have it. What is her book? I was kind of ugly when I was 17 and no one wanted to fuck me. I thought Janice Ian died, by the way. Oh, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton. Right. So they get this eclectic mix in there.

And Ellen DeGeneres, by the way. She was persecuted for being gay. Right. It's really – She was unemployed for six months. Imagine if she was a man and straight how rich she'd be today i mean right now she's scraping by i know but she's getting by but imagine if she was imagine if she had a penis imagine she had a penis and didn't want to suck it you know what i'm saying

how rich would she be how big would she be right now? She's struggling. If she was a dude, let's just be honest. If she was a straight dude, how would that be going? Listen, in her defense, her talk show has only been on how many years? 13? Yeah. We hold women and lesbians down in our society. See, my argument is always it's just the opposite. If she was just a dude and she was straight, I don't think we'd know who she was.

I know one thing. Right now, you can't get out the closet fast enough. Right. People are lining up. Right. They're heroes. Lining up. She's a hero.

Yeah, you're right. She was out of work for a whole six months. She was. That's right. All right. But imagine if she was a dude and had a penis and didn't want to blow it. Well, she'd have a podcast. That's right.

A whole network. That's right. A whole network. That's what would be going on. Or she'd be doing them fake-ass rehab shows like Dr. Drew. So Janice Ian Society's Child is the winner, or it's just the last one you guys are leaving on the screen? Oh, I think Gary left that because you were asking what book it was. Oh, okay. That was her memoir or something?

Mm-hmm. All right. So I didn't like it drew do you get this when you write books like your publisher does they hey you've got to go get this and you got to find that person and you gotta no my my my publisher's always like do you know you know when they do the forward thing or like who's like can you ask seth mcfarren can you ask david allen greer can you i just said it was here but can you just, can you ask Seth McFarland? Can you ask David Alan Greer? Can you ask – I just said that because he's here. But can you just ask – can you get all these guys?

And then they're always like, can you go out? And I always think to myself like at a certain point I go, I could do all that. But what do we – what do we need you for if at a certain point I'm just doing everything? My publisher told me it's not coming out in paperback. We're done with you. Really? Yeah. Okay.

Well, don't worry. Is that before the Grammy nomination? Now. They're crawling around. Now it's coming back. All right. We got your phone calls. We were talking off the air a lot about concussions and about football.

Also, if you like this show, you like what you hear and you want to help support the Pirate Ship, you can go to Adam and Drew. You can go to the Adam and Drew page and you can click on the PayPal donate button and keep us afloat if you like what you hear. Now, what about the concussions? Well, here's my thing. As I was saying to Dr. Drew in a nutshell,

the crux of the thing is I feel football is going to change. And I even believe there are a lot of people who feel that football as we know it, as we grew up watching it, will not – it was going to cease to exist. Because of the – I'll tell you why. Because of the head trauma thing. It's not – number one, it's the lawsuits from these players. When the NFL knew that there was a connection, that's that's their premise.

You know, and the NFL is like going, well, you know, it's a high risk sport. You knew what was going on and you chose to play. That's not why it's never going to exist. It's not going to exist because parents to feed the football machine. When you go all across the country, you know, Pop Warner, that starts when kids are 7, 8, 9 years old. By the time they're into high school, they've already been tracked and segregated and developed. I mean, that's so much a part of the machine of football.

Once concerned parents around the country go, head injuries? Something could happen to my child? No, dude. You're playing soccer. That's what's going to kill it. It's starting to happen. It is starting to happen. Back in the day, there used to be a lot of Jewish boxers.

Wait a minute. What? There were a lot of Jewish... Like the Gangster Squad. It's about a boxer. What? There are a lot of Jewish – Like the gangster squad is about a boxer. Oh, it is. That's a movie. Gay gangster squad or just gangster squad? No, no, no. He sang –

Hey, Adam. Hey, Adam. There used to be opera singing. Simone. Simone. You're always saying that. No, there were a lot of Jewish fighters and there were a lot of jewish there were a lot of jewish fighters and there were a lot of italian fighters and there was a lot of irish fighters

and a lot of a lot of irish fighters and there was a lot of italians and jews people don't know there were a lot of fighters immigrants poor people okay what happened well they came up they came up they got it they got educated They got educated. And a couple generations later, 40 years later, there weren't so many Italian fighters. What is your point? Now there are a lot of black fighters and a lot of Hispanic fighters. It's always the folks that aren't doing as well are going to be willing to go out there and get their head kicked around just a little bit. there and get their head kicked around just a little bit. So what's going to happen with football, I believe, is the folks like you, Drew, who have kids and you're of means, you're educated, and you're going to start pulling your kids

out of there. Michael Irvin's mom with the nine brothers and sisters living in the Sears gardening shed is still going to let her kid play ball as a ticket out of their life. I understand. But here's the difference. Here's the difference. Powerful. No, you're right.

You're absolutely right. But the NFL, like there's nothing bigger in this country. There's no bigger sport. They've taken great pains to paint and create this picture of the NFL professional football being all American. You know what I'm saying? And they don't want that stain on this industry. It's different. Everybody knows, has known for forever.

Boxing is a blood sport. You don't get smarter boxing. You get punched in your head. The point of how do I win a boxing match? I hit you with my fist so hard that i concuss you right short circuit your brain with brute force and make you stop make you fall down knock you the fuck out that's how you win quiet as this cop that's how you win in football too you know this whole thing about wow hit with no it's like this. Earl Campbell, you talk to any of these dudes, hit that man.

How do you make a runner stop? You hit him. No, I know. You hit him. You make him stop running with your body. That's how you do it. There's – you know, I think Bill Belichick and Tom Brady would argue that there's a little – And Bill Bellamy, who's a wonderful comment.

Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, and Bill Bellamy would also argue that there's probably a little more finesse to it than that. But, yes, I agree. It's hitting. So now you have people, and they're doing damage to themselves. And the question for a lot of these dudes you see in the NFL is, for me, where would you be if you weren't doing this? Yes, you're paying a price physically. But now there's knowledge i mean at a certain point it's just like smoking at a certain point like i can't people are trying but i can't go to a and sue the maker of cool cigarettes in 2013 and go you lied

to me because they didn't because i've known my whole life, literally, cigarettes are bad. What? Black guys smoking Kool's? Yeah, always. All my babysitters. Wow. Because they cool. Because they cool. Now sit down.

No, but you know what I'm saying? Now, there's all these players suing them. I do believe, I say I believe. That's a menthol-flavored cigarette. It is, it is. It tastes like candy, only, you know, your breath stinks. Wait, shouldn't they just make one that tastes like grapes and call it Black Lung?

Just go fuck it. It tastes just like chicken. Black Lung. I'm sorry. But wait a minute. But you know what I'm saying? The dudes who were playing in the period when the NFL was going, oh, there's no connection. There's no connection. The dudes who were playing when the team doctor said, you just were knocked out.

Get back in the game. They have a case. Well, now, at a certain point, you have to go from, I don't know, 80 or 90 something. From then on, no, dude, you knew the deal. Listen, you brought up cigarettes. It's the exact same thing. And it's the same thing. It's Lance Armstrong. It's cigarettes. It's the exact same thing. And it's the same thing. It's Lance Armstrong.

It's cigarettes. It's brain damage. He's a hero. He never cheated. The point is this. The problem is the lies. The problem is you're talking to the tobacco industry in the mid-'80s, and they're like, we employ top-notch scientists, and they're telling us that nicotine is not addictive,

and then you get caught. Really, what you should be saying is, look, this is America. We're free here. You're free to eat a chili dog. That's not good for you. And you're free to smoke a cigarette. That's not good for you either. But this is America and that's the land that we've created and we provide a product.

And if you can complain about the people who build parachutes or bungee cords or who make chili dogs and put them in the same category as us and football should have done the same thing because i saw like real sports shit on this thing and like 10 years ago and they would dissect the brain of the linemen and it was like this guy died at 51 you see all this black marks here that looks like a patient in their 80s and it was abund, this guy died at 51. You see all this black marks here. That looks like a patient in their 80s. And it was abundantly clear. But that's when the NFL was going, I see now. That brain looks fine to me.

Right. And what the NFL needed to do at that point is go, yes, it's a contact sport. This is happening. And we're trying to address it. And we're trying. Now, where they're going to get themselves into trouble is where Lance got into trouble. Cigarette companies got in trouble. They went, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not a dick. No, I didn't dope. No, no, no, no. That's

science. That's bogus science. And now all those documents with all the cooked sciences on there and all the doctors they had on the payroll, and that's where they're going to get their money. Because that if they had just said, yes, it's a contact sport, obviously multiple head contacts and injuries are going to have an effect. We are going to address it and try to minimize it as best we can. But realistically, for professional football players, most of them have been playing for 10 years at least before they become adults. Oh, yeah.

Okay? Before they become adults. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. You know, yeah, they'll be small. It's going to be a different thing. The NFL wants to expand. They don't want to contract.

They don't want to be boxing in helmets. No, they want to be all American, like hot dogs and shit. Everyone played at least 10 years except for that one Nigerian dude who did not know what a football was. Like, he does that thing where it's like, but he showed up at the junior college and he'd never seen a football before. Or Manute Bowles. Like, dog, you got to run down court? Just stand there.

He's 7'9". Take the ball. Put your hand up. Somebody looked at like Christian Akoye running like a 4'3", 40 and went like, you don't know what a football is? This is a football. Hold it. Run over that dude who's trying to tackle you.

And he's like, okay. And he just fucking ran. But this is the NFL, and this is the problem with the NFL doctors. RG3, he wanted to go in. Knew his knee was fucked up. Doctor said, yeah, I cleared him to play. His knee got was fucked up. Doctor said, yeah, I cleared him to play.

His knee got really fucked up. Now the doctor says, I didn't clear him to play. He wanted to play. Did you clear him or did you not clear him? You're either ethical or not ethical. He didn't want to get caught out there. Now he's saying he didn't clear him because we all know

what happened. RG3 fucked his knee up. He's out for the season. Now the doctor backed up and said, I don't know if he's out he didn't clear him because we all know what happened. RG3 fucked his knee up. He's out for the season. Now the doctor backed up and said – I don't know if he's out for the season. He's out. That season. Next season? No, he's out for a while.

Well, a while is now, but is that the next season? Because Adrian Peterson had almost the same thing, came back, led the league in Russia. I understand. But RG3 ain't going to lead the league in anything unless he changes his play. He can't do what he keeps trying to do. Yes. I've said that many times. The point I'm trying to say is that the doctor flip-flopped, and now all of a sudden it's

like, well, RG3 wanted to go in. I'm sure he did. Right. But so what's the future of football? Where do you see it? I think it's not going to be what it is. Right now it's America's number one game. They're adding teams.

They're adding more games, putting more on these players. The players are getting bigger. They're getting faster. For you to get tackled by a dude now is completely different. These are 300 pounds. It's like getting run over by a car. They're saying the force of the blow is getting bigger and bigger and faster. But, Dag, they say that—

It's a cancer that's going to come, and just like the Black Plague, it's going to kill you. I walked out of my house. I don't play football. You know what happened? Black Plague's the name of the Ravens' defense, isn't it? Someone tackled me. Someone tackled me. Shouldn't the Ravens' defense be called the Black Plague?

That's what they called me when I was playing for the Westside Cubs. Here you come. Tail back. The Black Plague. No, but you know what I'm saying? It's a bigger, faster, more dangerous sport. I agree. I agree.

But in the past, if a guy was concussed, they would laugh and say he got his bell rung. They would see him walking back to the wrong huddle, and literally the announcers would be laughing. Well, you were taught as a player. You still are. Do not show pain. Do not show that you're— Then— When you don't know what the fuck you want.

They would give you a shot of smelling salt, which I miss in life. Give me some smelling salt. It's good for what else? Yeah. They'd give you a shot. There was a time when just a shot of brandy and a smelling salt, and you're right back in the gunfight, in the game, in the marriage, whatever it is. You're right back in the hunt.

Thick of it. Right in the thick of it. So they'd give you some smelling salts. They'd ask you where you were, if you got it, if it was close enough. I'm in Toledo, Ohio, coach! We're playing, Cleveland. It's close enough. Put them in. Put them in. I'm in Toledo, Ohio, coach! We're playing, Cleveland. It's close enough.

Put him in. Put him in. So they'd put you back in, and then the damage, the real damage would happen after the first concussion. Now you're pulled out, and you have to go through a protocol. So that damaged the secondary damage. What RG3 experienced with his knee, he hurt it once. He should have finished the rest of the season. He went out and did real damage. Well, the real damage part of the concussions is now being regulated to quite an extent.

They think. Well, they have doctors that aren't the team doctor who has to clear them to play. And they had, I think, Vic was out for a couple of weeks. I mean, guys. And then the bigger question for me is Michael Vic or Ray Lewis. They made millions of dollars in the league. They're probably not going to be right, but I don't know

what they would have been up to otherwise. Well, Michael Vic had his whole dog. Oh, that's true. He had an enterprise. He had a home business. He ran a business from home. Lots of demand for a dag looking into the medication manuals and pulling out some names. I got to take a piss.

You don't do that anymore? I do. I do. I'll do it, man. But I mean, I really do have to go take a piss. I was talking. All right. I'm going to run down.

Just a second. We'll take a break. A question about PTSD. A question about bone marrow. And head trauma. Bone marrow. Who is your hero, Adam? How do you trauma bone marrow who is your hero adam how do you donate uh bone marrow i'll tell you a second dr drew i don't know too much about that i know where they do it i know how they tap the base of the spine pelvic bram usually how does the bone marrow the thing that's

crazy is how the bone marrow finds its way yeah to its new host right like this they don't put it into your bone do you they put it into your blood and it goes its way to its new host, right? Like, they don't put it into your bone, do you? They put it into your blood and it goes. It finds its way to our blood. It knows where to go. Yeah. It's like a fucking salmon, right? You should be a doctor.

You should be a doctor. Look, sit down, stupid. This is like a salmon. I shove it up your ass. It's going to find its way to the stink bug. Everything would be a fishing analogy. It's like perch, bonita,

that's a different species. Okay? You look at your white blood cells, it's like pulling up a dorado. Okay? Now that's good eating.

You understand? And we're trying to get your T-cell count down a little bit. That would be like pulling up an amberjack or something like that. Or a bonefish.

I'm a fighter, but you don't want to eat them. Too many bones. What you've got to do right now, what I'm saying, your regimen is like, basically, you've got to rig your drag line. That's what I'm saying, and we're going to see if we can gaff a cure on board. You see what I'm saying? I'm going to chum the waters, but I can't

put your rig in the water. That's up to you. I love chumming the water, because it is a thankless, horrible job. I watch Wicked Tuna, too, because I can't stand it. Drew, you need to work more fishing analogies. You're right. I love fishing. I do.

I love everything. And it's racist, too. And then at a certain point- You're going to take that big lip jigger? Well, give me two jiggerboos. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Put the cock stank on the WAP thing.

Well, come on, man. Come on. I'll tell you, Chink Knot. We'll go ahead and put the cock stank on the WAP thing. No, you know what? I'll give you a heave knot. Just keep it. I'm going to save money.

Give me a heavey. Give me a heavey. Give me a heavey. I think you could work. Can I get some cunt bait in there? Mm-hmm. What the fuck did I say? Mm-hmm. I'm going to give you a jigger fro knot.

Tycoon knot on there. Mm-hmm. Now, make sure if we're going for Bonita, you've got to do it all the way down to the bottom. That's where we're dragging on the bottom. That's where we get Bonita. Yes. I'm like, this is fucking racist, man. What the fuck?

All right, Dag, you've got to whiz. I'll be right back. All right, now hold on. We've got some phone calls. When we come back, we'll take a quick break. When we come back, what call do you want to take there, Drew? Me? Yeah, a dag.

Drew, you pick. We'll be doing head traumas. All right. Head trauma, PTSD, and then the heroine, yeah. All right, we'll do that right after this. Yeah, eerie. Available now from Corolla Digital, an evening with Adam Corolla and Dennis Prager, Philadelphia and Redondo Beach.

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Go to meeting. All right. So where's the head trauma? Three. Line three. You forgot because you have head trauma. I have. Oh, I've been knocked out.

I've been knocked out a few times. I was telling Dr. Drew my concussion story. Aaron? Hey, how's it going, Ace? Good. Hey, quick question for Dr. Drew. Yeah. Sorry.

Your brain. I've had some head trauma. Dag's had some head trauma. I've had some head trauma. Dag's had some head trauma. But Dag and I travel the country, and I do a podcast. And basically, our brains are doing push-ups all day, every day. Right.

Because I'm constantly doing a, what are you going to talk about on O'Reilly? And then what are you going to talk about on this show? And then you've got to do this. You've got to do your thing. And then you've got to go do stand-up. So my brain's constantly working out. Yeah. Is there an element where, because of boxing, because of football, because of junior college and construction, if I was still doing construction, my brain would be weaker now than it is because I've been doing push-ups for 10 years. It would be weaker in terms of its process and abilities and discipline, those sorts of things.

But it wouldn't be more protected against the long-term effects of the head trauma. Yeah, but isn't it the most damaging is repetitive head trauma? You might notice it more readily when you're trying to function at a high level because you start to lose some working memory or something. So is there such a thing as push-ups or scales for your brain? People have been trying to prove that for a long time, and it does not look good. So if you were going – heading toward Alzheimer's or you're heading toward dementia and you literally just every morning did Peter picked a peck of peppers and you just did it 20 times every morning, that would not necessarily slow down that process. It doesn't look like it would have any effect.

Not necessarily slow down that process. It doesn't look like it would have any effect, the current literature is suggesting. But certainly you would notice sooner that you lost the ability to do that because it would be – you're trying to do something more elaborate. Well, the thing – I think one of the – unfortunately, one of the – a testimonial to what Drew is saying, one of my dear friends, Philip the Juggler, probably spoken to you about as being a great guy. Yeah, think about that. Think of his neurological What happened to him? Oh my God. He was a guy, good looking, successful A juggler? A juggler.

But like a professional But literally rode, you know, could go do some of these comedy clubs we do where the stage is just four foot deep and seven foot wide and could sit on that on a unicycle on that stage i ride a unicycle and the hardest thing to do on a unicycle riding a bike's not that hard standing still on a bike is hard standing still on one wheel

he could stand still on that stage i'm good on a unicycle. I cannot do that. Would he do that and juggle? He could do that and juggle machetes or torches. What happened? Oh, my God. Well, he was the best guy I knew, like the nicest guy in the world, super good looking, made money, did things. He was in Branson, Missouri,

doing his thing, and all of a sudden, and he used to come out. I'd visit with him and stuff, but he moved to Branson and started a new life, and we kind of lost touch. We'd talk on the phone every once in a while and all that.

He was just one of those guys. He was one of those guys I didn't talk to all the time, but he was always out there. It's just, that's Phillip. He's a great dude. I love that guy. I'm always looking forward to seeing him. And I just talked to his wife one day, and she said, do you know what's going on with Phillip? And I said, no, I don't know what's going on with Phillipilip and i said uh no i don't know what's going

on with philip virile good looking blah blah blah blah blah get to the point now i'm just trying to get a fucking picture of the guy up on stage all right virile good looking smart i mean i just want you to see a picture of him so you'll know what we're dealing with he did like bud light commercials and stuff like that hey she says you know what's going on with philip and i said no and i said well he's had some early dementia has set in and this that and the other and i said oh man that's uh that's that's horrible that's uh him doing a bud light commercial and how old is he at this point it's probably late 30s and now he's in his early 50s late 40s early 50s but i mean you're seeing here a good looking guy whose hand-eye coordination is off the fucking charts right doing lots of brain push-ups

lots of brain push-ups right so i i say to the you know i say although interestingly he has some movement stuff going on already there with his amp with his gate did you see that well he i think that was just one of those bad camera-wise. Well, I didn't know if that was his act. That's his act. I mean, you don't see his persona. So I say, geez. I say, well, can I talk to him?

Put him on the phone. Well, wait. Wait. Let me just to be clear. This just started. Was it an injury? No. And how old was he when it started?

Started in his later 40s. Out of the blue. An injury? No. And how old was he when it started? Started in his later 40s. But that happens sometimes. There's a very dear, same deal, talented friend of mine. That guy looks like Matthew McConaughey. That's me at his wedding. I don't know if you have a picture of him and me on stage. There he is. Get out of here.

That's the same guy? That's him. Bent over, gray. Muscular atrophy. Wearing of here. That's the same guy? That's him. Bent over, gray, muscular atrophy. Wearing a diaper. He looks 80. I said, can I talk to Philip? And she said, well, no. And I said, well, but I think he'll remember me.

I'll talk to him. We'll talk about the old days or whatever. And she said, he can't talk. I said, he can't talk. And it was that fast? Well, yeah'll talk to him. We'll talk about the old days or whatever. And she said, he can't talk. I said, he can't talk. And it was that fast. Well, yeah, in a few years. He went from, geez, where'd I put my keys to? He can't talk.

And I said, well, can you put him on the phone? And he said, oh, no, he's living in a home. He can't get around. He came out to my show. I said, I'm coming out there to do a show. I said, bring him out. He bent over, had no idea who I was, couldn't speak, verbalized, nothing, and he's dead. Remember that happened also, too.

I'm going to go home because this is not – you just took it to – wait a minute. I had a friend, a woman, incredibly talented, same deal, around the same age, top of her game, early onset, Alzheimer's or dementia. No, dementia. But dementias have lots of different categories. Many, many dozens, many hundreds of categories. She thought, from what I heard, she thought she was going insane at first because at that age, you don't expect this. Meaning a director, a million things are coming at you. She could not remember, couldn't function the way she should.

She had no idea. That's the last thing you're saying. Oh, I have early onset dementia. She was diagnosed. It was a relief, but the same thing. Downhill, she had to retire in her 40s. What was the actor that played Arthur? Dudley Moore.

Dudley Moore had the same thing with supernuclear ophthalmoplegia, which is another form of progressive rapid dementia. And you know, remember there were stories that he was drunk because of his behavior. Poor Arthur. Right. So Philip went from juggling on stage to where's my keys

to... How many years? Maybe it was four or five. But two dead. Can we transition to Dr. Drew? Because, Adam, you want to start this intervention? Because, Dr. Drew, something's wrong with you, dude. Yeah. You are fucked up.

You don't know who I am. All right. Head trauma. Here we go. And by the way, when he died, it was a good day because his life was – They don't see the picture I just saw. You're saying that person there, how old was he in the picture when he came to see you perform? Early 50s.

Wow. He went from the most virile athletic guy in the world to gone, gone, gone. There's many different neurological problems can do that. Many, many, many. Yeah. Many, many. That's people – some of them are infectious. Some of them are genetic. Some of them we don't know. Shut up many, many. Yeah. Many, many. Some of them are infectious. Some of them are genetic.

Shut up with your medicine, Aaron. I've had it. What's going on? Hey, I taught Brett Favre's lawyer how to juggle when we were kids. Cut him off. This is ridiculous. I want to thank you, Adam and Drew, for saving my life many years ago. I was trying to call Loveline, but I couldn't get through.

I was too old. And, Drew, I talked to you about two weeks ago. On the podcast? Yeah. Dr. Lisa and Dr. Sue, I was the guy who got injected with heroin when he was a kid. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, here's what happened.

I just finished grad school. I had a cumulative of 3.84, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, here's what happened. I just finished grad school. I had a cumulative of 3.84, but I tend to fail exams all throughout my life. I had early head trauma when I was a kid. I was a pretty good student as an adult, but I failed the final exam, and that caused me some concern. So I got a head scan, and the MRI was fine. I didn't have any damage. I did have a motorcycle wreck when I was 19.

I woke up bleeding into a ditch. I got thrown off the back of a 700 Ninja, and we were running from the cops. I asked him to slow down and stop, let me off and run, and he just kept going. What year was that Ninja? I was on the back of the Ninja. I think it was probably 600. I think they did a 600, maybe a 900. Oh, it was a 1985, I think.

Yeah, I think it would have been a 600 Ninja, not a 700. Okay, cool. That's just me. And, Dag, thanks for taking that potty break. I had to piss really bad before, too. So, Aaron, what's your question? I wanted to know why I have trouble on exams and why I have trouble holding down a job. I have PTSD and depression.

I was a boxer, too. I was a football player. I was a Golden Globes sparring partner. I didn't like getting hit in the head, so I stopped after a summer of that. I just don't understand if I don't have brain damage, how does PTSD and depression get in the way of my working relationships? I've had over 20 jobs in my life. Okay, hold on.

A reminder that this, I get into it, Aaron, on an episode that's going to air on February 15th, the Dr. Drew podcast. You can get it at drdrew.com. Gary Heffner just ran in with that information. Listen, there's lots of complexity to what Aaron's talking about. If you're talking post-traumatic stress disorder and depression, that usually goes along with difficulty with character functioning. So that is associated with problems interpersonally, problems with truthfulness and manipulations and those kinds of things too or distortions. And so naturally those things can affect your ability to function at work.

I don't understand what he's asking really. Well, he's just kind of doing a laundry list of trials and tribulations and traumas. I'm just throwing it off the back of my head. Why do you think he's getting injected with heroin? It's a long story. It all figures out. Let me say something. Aaron.

Yeah. I'm hearing somebody that has, I'll give a sports analogy. Fishing. A fishing sports. Let's say Tom Brady was on a tuna boat. Okay. Wait, was he the captain or is he captain? No, he's a deckhand. He's chumming.

He's chumming the water. He's chumming the water. And he's going after bluefin. Okay? Yep. And we're rigging his drag line, and I say to him, hey, here's what I need you to do. I need you to go down into the hold. I need you to pull up some fish and start cutting them

up because we're going to make a big chum slick here and he looks down to his quarterback wrist brace the one that has all the plays on it and goes i don't know because i got thrown off the back of a motorcycle and i land in a ditch bleeding and then i go all right well then what i need you to do is go up top and i need you to rig uh the g. And he goes, ooh, he looks his wrist brace again. He goes, you know, I suffered a lot of head trauma when I was working as a sparring partner for Golden Gloves in the late 90s, early 90s, late 80s. Every time I asked him to do something, he looked down. You got a wristband that's filled with excuses.

We've all been hit in the head. We've all loved and lost. We've all done a little boxing and we've all played a little football. And yet we get up and we go do what we have to do. You have an answer slash excuse for everything that you're not doing. And maybe it's true, but why look in the rearview mirror and come up with reasons why you can't do stuff? People do this all the time where they go, I really can't so-and-so because I'm... Why do you want to go through life explaining why you can't do something?

Fuck, there's a guy named Superfoot. Superfoot Wallace. Drew, I'm on a roll. Bring up Superfoot fucking Wallace. This guy named Superfoot Wallace. Superfoot Wallace. Superfoot Wallace is one of the greatest kickboxers i know ever wallace ever oh yes ever to don the gate right bill wallace i met him bill superfoot wall when i was doing taekwondo i met him he's amazing bill superfoot wallace like stepped on

a landmine with rocky bly or something they both hopped on the same landmine in 1969. He has a foot that's like no good. But that's all right. He blew his knee out. And he told me the story. He blew his knee out and he never got it repaired. So they called him Superfoot because he had one good leg. And I was like, well, but now they have, you know, it's not the 70s anymore.

Now they have have expert surgeons. He's like, he doesn't need it. He's compensated. Superfoot was like the nine-time AKA kickboxing, IK or whatever it was, kickboxing champion on a bad wheel. On one bad wheel, every month he was on Black Belt Magazine. He was on the cover of Black Belt Magazine. But he was able to compensate for the bad wheels that you're saying. Overcome.

He worked hard. Yep. Now, obviously, when a guy's got a bad leg and somebody says, why aren't you kickboxing? You go, what kind of bad leg? What the fuck? It's called kickboxing. No. He just won championships with the one bad wheel.

And they were trying to take him out. I mean, this is in a time where they didn't have, the rules were, you know, it was no shit like this, like it is now. They were trying to take him out.

I've seen those movies with Eric Roberts. Believe me, I know how the game was played. Dude, that was my instructor, Phillip Ree. What were those, Eric Roberts,

the karate flicks? Oh, the best defense. Best of the best. Best defense. No, the best of the best. Rocky Blair. Rocky Blair. And there you Oh, best defense. Best of the best. Best defense. No, the best of the best. Rocky Blair. Rocky Blair.

There you go. Rocky Blair. What NFL team did Rocky Blair play for? Oh, please, you homo. The Steelers. I know that. Dad doesn't know that shit? Who is he back with?

Part of the greatest dynasty. I don't know, but I do know. Hold on. Rocky Blair, if I recall, he was a dude who had a lot of problems, physical problems. He stepped on a – Vietnam. But he talked about bone spurs. Yeah, yeah. I mean, all kind of shit where they cut the stuff out.

He could not walk. He said he was in so much pain from his ankle and his foot. The doctor said you cannot play. Right. Operated on his ass. He would play with pain. With pain. I had bone spurs.

And ankle spurs. I mean, the amount of pain, I'm not comparing the two. With a back, by the way, who, if Dag and I had a child, he would be Franco Harris. That's right. The greatest black Italian running back. That was one of the two runners I ever saw.

This is some old school sports trivia. Do you remember when Jim Brown challenged Franco Harris to like... Foot race. Foot race. That's right. He smoked him. I don't think they did it, but the point is... Well, there was some shit that was going on for years. Because Franco Harris never had foot speed.

He was just a great running back. And Jim Brown was like, I'm 55 and I'll smoke your ass. Why did they hate each other? Jim Brown. Well, what happens is, by the way, Jim Brown is one of the most pompous asses on the fucking planet. But he's also one of the greatest football players ever. I understand. But Jim Brown has

had some issues with his old lady on occasion. Just one? Maybe a couple. He's the most pompous ass on the planet. I love Jim Brown. Everyone says he has a right to be a pompous ass because he's Jim Brown. But there are a lot of great players.

Listen, I'll put it to you this way. Barry Sanders is also one of the greatest backs of all time, and he's the nicest, most unassuming man on the planet. So Jim Brown, a great back with a great, huge attitude. I've never – my interaction with Jim Brown, he's been great. That's all I can tell you. So here's what happened with me and Jim Brown. I came at him right.

A lot of people say you have an attitude and you're racist i was on it i it's racist and attitude by the way it's not attitude attitude i here's by the way here's how you know i'm not really racist if i really was racist it'd be like if i was if i was gay and closeted, I wouldn't be making jokes about sucking cock all day long. If I really was racist, I wouldn't be saying any. I wouldn't be making all my racist jokes. You mean all of our jigaboo things? I would feel racist. No, I would feel self-conscious about being racist.

Hold on. You got a darkie in your bucket? Well, give me a nigger toe. Put a knot on it. Knot it with a honky. I said to Jim Brown, we're on a flight. We're in first class. We came home from New York, right?

And I was sitting next to him on a flight. And everyone got up and they said, we can get off the plane now. And they said, no, no, no. There may be a bomb in the terminal. And you can't leave the plane. So we're hooked up to the jetway and everything. But you cannot leave the plane because there's a bomb scare in the terminal. And I remember sort of just thinking, I'm the kind of guy who thinks, even if there is a bomb, if I just run out of this plane, what are the chances it's going to go off when I'm in the blast, when I'm in the kill zone?

It's only about 30 feet. So we're just sitting there and we're waiting. And it's like been 20 minutes. And I just said to Jim Brown at a certain point, I said, look, Jim, you run down that jet. There's going to be some guy from there's going to be some guy from continental air or something. You throw a shoulder into him. You knock him out. Take him out.

I'm going to break. I'm going to cut off your block and I'm going to take me in my backpack to daylight. But to me, that's fucking hilarious. I know. But to him. He paused. Look at me. He goes, I don't block for anybody.

It's like, I have a wonderful sense of humor. Wait a minute. In his defense. In his defense. That's funny. It's fucking hilarious. But in his defense. He wasn't being funny.

He was just like, fuck you. Yeah, but the other night, I was with my brother and my nephew. my nephew we went to thank god it's shrimp or some shit like that they just got off the plane dude had a lot of beers with his chick he came over he wanted to meet the dag from you know he's like fuck here he is and i was like i'm with my family i'm having dinner i really don't want to right he just was standing there like this guy guy's a dick. And I'm like, I'm trying to have dinner, dude. I can't do a picture. And they just stood there and wore me down. Then I was like,

okay, all right, I'm going to take a picture. Now, I'm not, I think I'm a pretty cool guy, but if you catch me at the airport, but wait, if you catch me at the airport, you know, in the airport bar, and you're with your boys, and you're like, listen, I want you to call my girlfriend and do the crazy scream, and I say fuck off. Yeah.

To them, that's an asshole move. Not to Jim Brown. He's like this old black dude, and you're like, all right, Jimmy, here's what we're going to do. First of all, let me get your hand for a pic. Love you, baby. Love you, man. Dingo, look here. Drop the shoulder, man.

Drop the shoulder. He's probably looking at you like, motherfucker. That's what he was. How are you? That is fucking hilarious. I know. You should put that in a movie. Just have him sitting there like, I don't block for nobody.

That is fucking funny. All right. Bone marrow drill. Let's do Justin. Four. Justin, four. All right. Bone marrow, Drew. Let's do Justin. Four. Justin, four. All right. Let's talk to Justin.

Justin? Yes. Hey, Adam, Drew, David. It's an honor to speak with you guys. How are you doing, man? You've taught me so much throughout the years of Loveline and whatnot. But anyway, this is a little off topic, but throughout my adult life, I've had three heroes. My dad, Steve Jobs, and Adam Carolla.

However, it's been amended to Adam Carolla, Dr. Drew, and David Allen Greer. Those are my top three heroes. But Steve Jobs is kind of crazy. I mean, he's brilliant. I could see that as a hero for some people. Yeah, that's nice. And he is an American. Okay, never mind.

I won't talk about that. I know where you're going. Uh-huh. But I was wondering, Adam, you, you never really talked about, you know, kind of like your role models. I know you, Graham Parker, obviously. I know you look up at Dr. Drew, but other than that, who are, like, some of your main heroes? Graham Parker? You're talking about the rock star dude?

Yeah. I love Graham Parker. I loved Graham Parker. So here's the thing. And it's the thing, because I was thinking about this as I was looking at your question up there. I grew up in a non-hero family. Like, we all like sports. A little bit of a non-hero era, too. No.

A little bit. The 60s and 70s, a little bit. Anti-heroes. Yeah, a lot of anti-heroes. It was Jim Brown. You seduced me on that flight. I absolutely disagree. I met Muhammad Ali.

And I was an adult. Yeah. And talk about brain trauma. He was fucked up when I was in dream girls back in 84, but to meet Muhammad Ali, that is the closest thing to meeting in my mind, a real live superhero. Cause that's how much of a hero when I was a kid.

Oh fuck. Yeah, man. Muhammad Ali. There are a lot of heroes. If you had, if I was a kid, oh, fuck yeah, man. Muhammad Ali. There are a lot of heroes if you opened your heart to them. But if you're brain damaged, Dr. Drew,

no, let me finish. You have post-traumatic stress because you bludgeoned yourself with stupidity. Now I said it. Mine, actually, when I was very young, it was Maya Angelou.

Because I didn't, there weren't any people. I love that,ou. I didn't, there weren't any people. Hello, Adam. Yeah, Maya. There weren't any people that I identified with, you know. Your sword is your vocabulariousness. See, yeah, that's what I felt. I felt like I had, you know, as a young woman of color, I didn't

feel that there was anyone I could connect to. Wait a minute, be serious. But I connected to You didn't have any there was anyone I could connect to. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Be serious. You didn't have any heroes? You know, it's funny. It's like there was a couple things, and it's an interesting question, which is I remember growing up going, George Carlin is funny. Like, that was cool that he was doing his thing.

But my family was so don't worship anyone, including yourself or us, and we're not going to worship you. And also, to even think you can do what George Carlin is doing one day, do not blow that kind of smoke up your own ass. I love Jimi Hendrix, but he died. Right. And then there was Billy Jack. What happened to that actor? Tom Laughlin.

Oh, my God. Remember when he would take, before he whooped ass, he would just Tom Laughlin. Oh, my God. Remember when he would take, before he whooped ass, he would just take his shoes off. Oh, yeah. Now, they could, there would be a great, I would like to get Jim Brown and Tom Laughlin in a room together to have a blowhard contest. Like, all right, this is champion. This is, you represent the Eastern Division. You're the Western Division.

This is a colossal, this is an Ali Frazier type, rumble in the jungle of blowhards. You're the blackest blowhard on the planet. You're the whitest blowhard on the planet. Now, let's get together and see who the winner is. By the way, my best part of Billy Jack is Ruben the Talkdown. Billy, Billy, look at me. Put your moccasins back on, Billy. Your brain is not in your big toe. Billy,

Billy, a snap kick is not going to solve anything. Billy! Oh, yeah. Those kids need you. The little brain-damaged Indian kids need you. That was porn for Adam. That came right after the box, the chick on the box

at the Big Five. God knows I'd try. Bernard, I'd try. That came right after the box for the chick on the box at the Big Five. God knows I try. Right? Billy Jack. Bernard, I try. He was such a horrible actor. What you do to these children, these little Indian children, well, I just go buzz up. And then he starts throwing a heel dance.

Do you remember when he pushed it? Did he push the dude's vet in the water? No, no. He gave him a choice. Bernard. That's right. That's right. He gave him a choice. Bernard. That's right. That's right. That's right.

And what an evil name. Bernard. Bernard. Bernard. But by the way, he didn't call him Bernard. He called him Bernard or something. Bernard. Oh, yeah.

Bernard. You ever hear of Jim Superfoot Wallace? No. Really? What is that pitch like? I'm going to- What is that pitch like? I'm going to take the inside of my foot.

I'm going to take the instep of my foot. I'm going to put it across your orbital socket. And it's not a damn thing you can do about it. Or you take your 71 big block vet and drive it into Lake Itchigo. You and what army? Billy Jack. Your hat looks stupid. By the way, it's the blowhardiest move in the world because it was such a 70s thing where it's like everyone was so into Indians.

Yeah. Like Marlon Brando. Tom Laughlin is the whitest blue-eyed guy on the planet. And it's like, Billy, where you been? My prayer snake hole on top with running bear. You are a white guy with blue eyes and a crew cut. You understand? There's nothing Indian about you.

I'm talking about the pitch. How did he get money to make that bullshit-ass movie? Oh, he made that himself. He did? He didn't go in an office. You mean he went in an office and went, okay, this movie's going to be me. I'm starring in it. I play a half-breed who knows jiu-jitsu.

I'm putting my foot on the side of your head. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it made more money than fucking Deep Throat. Then we got... Because it had some unclad women. That was the big thing, remember? We used to see it every...

How many times did you see it, Adam? My mom would brainwash me because every... She brainwashed me with Billy Jack and Roots. Because every time... Because my mom's the whitest person on the planet. But we would watch Roots and we'd watch Billy Jack and she'd just look at me and go, do you see how we are? Do you see what we did to these people?

Do you see what we did to these people? We would go and see. I must have seen Billy Jack six times. It's just one of those movies, man. And then there was the trial of Billy Jack. Oh, I saw all of them. And then Billy Jack goes to Washington. And Tom Laughlin is such a colossal blowhard that he wouldn't edit himself. Oh, the same, but the

same. Denim on denim. Denim on denim. That stupid fucking sitting bull hat. And he'd take his shoes off. And we saw him kicking his shoes off. That meant there was trouble in the park. By the way, I hated movies. See, Dag, you watch this movie as a black

man. I watch it as a white man. And every time it'd be like, we're going to bring the hippie Indian kids down to the ice cream store. The soda shop. And we're going to get them some ice cream. And then the kids would all walk in. By the way, the shop was almost empty. Oh, it was a set. There'd be 18 kids coming in and two adults going, we'd like to have two scoops.

We don't serve your kind here. And it's like, not interested in making money huh what was the billy jack theme go ahead and cheat your neighbor go ahead and yeah oh my mom was like you see they turned over that rock at the end and there was no gold you understand i know when i was a kid i know it was kind of shitty yeah but we would watch it anyway. Oh, it had a theme song. But it's pertinent to what we were talking about. It was such an anti-hero. I remember a period in high school when our teachers would go, you kids don't have heroes.

There's no heroes anymore. Yeah. And there was an anti-hero thing. You liked the renegades and the people that were against them. Those are heroes. Yeah, but they weren't allowed to be heroes. They weren't really heroes. You couldn't really admire anything.

Yeah. Well, anyway. What's that sort of thing? Also, I came up not looking up to my dad. Like, I was like, you pathetic slob. What an idiot. You're such a fucking lazy piece of shit. So do you have a hero now?

Oh. That's what he wants to know. You know what? Really, I know this sounds trite. That's what he wants to know. You know what? Really, I know this sounds trite. Really, the guys who hang in, take care of their families, like do the right thing. Like my heroes are like everyone who just does the right thing, who's not involved with frivolous lawsuits, who's not trying to bilk the government.

It was not like just the people who fucking take care of business, who just go out every day, create jobs, take care of their family, pay their bills, pay the government, like just do the right thing. Like the person,

the person who gets rear ended on the freeway, walks out, looks at the bumper and goes, ah, there's no real damage here. We don't have to exchange insurance or whatever and drive the way. Yeah, I did that. But then the two white guys said, yeah, we do.

Fuck. I listen to you on Adam Carolla. Then they sued my company and said that they had traumatic back pain. Really? This happened to you? Yep. What? What?

I must have been going seven miles an hour. It was a beat up pickup truck. These guys were going to install roof. Somewhere. A roof in Laurel Canyon. And I go, what happened to that case? It wasn't me direct, it was my insurance

company. Oh yeah, they sued, they claimed they had back problems, all that kind of shit. Because that might have been their attorneys doing all that crap. Oh yeah, it is. Because they told me, they're like, oh, big that might have been their attorneys doing all that crap. Oh, yeah, it is. No, but those fucking attorneys. They knew who I was because they told me. They're like, oh, big fans, we love you on Adam Crow's show.

So you're not my fucking hero. It's because of you. All right. So thanks, Justin. Thanks, Justin. Drew, you have any heroes? I mean, yours are on like Mount Rushmore and shit. You're like a Thomas Jefferson guy, right?

Dr. Albert Schweitzer? Yeah. You know what? I've got heroes sort of in the medical thing. Who? Like Dan Siegel and Alan Shore and guys like that. Why? What'd they do?

Because they're fighting the good fight. You know what I mean? They're pushing things forward in terms of what really is important right now, I think, in terms of understanding people and relationships. Hey, Leon. You know, okay. Sorry. What, what, Dan?

You were saying, you know, fighting a good fight. I went online on Facebook, you know, my Facebook thing. There was immediate conversation between certain people I know about how the mentally ill – well, I can't really. The mentally ill were being scapegoated for this whole new town. Well, that's part of the problem is that if you – we don't want at the same time to increase stigma by talking realistically about mental illness. What really – It's really hard. Hold on a second, though. It's a hard line to walk.

I get that. It's not that hard. Who is going to be discriminated against? I mean what are we really talking about here? No, it's a blame, you know, because they didn't – I'm just being a reporter for a second. Yeah. They didn't like the language nut job, crazy, lunatic. Right. We all have – when that language is used, we, meaning them, crazy –

Sure. I don't want to say crazy people. Right. Mentally challenged people or whatever the fuck. When you go, look, that Aurora, Colorado kid has schizophrenia. All schizophrenics don't go kill people. No, no, no, no, no, no, they don't. You can't say that.

Very, very few do. You can't say that. But a paranoid, psychotic, violent, planning guy because of his schizophrenia, yeah, yeah. But Dr. Drew, I read an article about a guy who heard voices in his head. Yes. Now, he decided to join the I Hear Voices in My Head group, support group, and we just want to live with it. They didn't want to take drugs. Okay.

They just wanted to make peace with the voices in their heads. Great. And why are you calling us crazy? Well, listen. I'm being serious there were reasons for the voices but listen they said so some of them are nice when they have a group they're groups for foreskin restoration and had that and their groups their groups who are against cochlear implants that basically are saying we you're deaf, we can make you hear again. And there's groups for the deaf who say that's discrimination

because we were born this way and you're actually, you're saying something that's pejorative, which is being deaf is being bad. I'm not normal. There's groups for every fucking fringe, everything. I think the point is, is we are giving, I think what's happened to our society is we are giving everyone the podium for two minutes. Like it's some sort of Santa Monica City Council meeting where the crazy guy comes up there with all the pins and goes, I'm a veteran of the Korean conflict. And you're like, OK, all right, buddy, relax.

So so what we're saying is, is all right, buddy, relax. I love the paper. So what we're saying is – Sir, can you just – Can you just start – You're on the clock, sir. Sir, you're on the clock. Just make your point. You only have two minutes. Yeah, but that's the problem. Listen, if you go back and look at any one of these massacres where the person who's like –

Find me Kevin Nealon talking about the elephant, the way they clearly had some emotional problems they don't talk about it they go what now why why did uh this person do this no you know what they do i mean i agree with you but here's the thing it's it's it's like the virginia tech thing they want if anybody Virginia Tech thing. If anybody was crazy, it was the Virginia Tech team. And they went, where were the counselors? Where were the guards? Why did it take so long? And I just kept saying, anyone want to bring up the parents? Anyone want to discuss the parents?

Because this kid was batshit crazy. He lived with them. They knew it. It was a culture where they didn't – they frowned a little on therapy. No, he clearly – look, if the parents don't know, it's like if you're – But what can they do? Adam, I just told you. You can't –

I'm telling – they're the only ones who can do anything. Yeah, but they're tired too. I mean, what can they do? What can they do? Here's the thing. You have a very troubled person living under your roof. That is nature or nurture. That's your creation.

There's nobody on this planet who has more dominion over that person or more responsibility for that person than you. Yeah, but here's the problem. Here's the problem. the problem. Here's the problem. When that person is no longer a child, once they cross the precipice of adulthood, they have their own wants and motivations. They don't have to take their medication. They don't have to listen to you. They want to go to college. You're not going to stop me. You can get a conservatorship. You can get a conservatorship. And no one – I've recommended that more times than I can count count and no one ever does it.

Now, why do you think they don't do that? I don't want to be mad at me. I don't want to ruin my relationship with my son. And then it's Aurora, Colorado. But do you think that's because they've already been – what am I trying to say? Beat down by it? Exactly. To some extent.

But they really never – no one – these days it's a weird thing. But also as parents, nobody wants to say my kid's crazy. Here's the point. There is no, how do I get a conservatorship over Adam? Because I think he's going to pop. You know I'm right. All right. By the way, this is Kevin Nealon.

We show it every time he comes in here. It cracks me up because, and I'll tell you, it's happened to me. It's happened to Dag. He's got to live in Santa Monica, right? Yeah. He is trying to save Bubbles the elephant. And he has one minute to make his point, right? Now, you and I have had that situation a million times where people went – it's a corporate-y thing or you're going to bring somebody up or something.

And they go, just do six minutes. Just do six minutes. And you went, oh, fuck. I do 90 minutes. I up or something and they go just do six minutes like just do six minutes and you went oh fuck i do 90 minutes i got six yeah i'll do six minutes and then someone goes what are you going to say what are you going to do and you go it's six minutes i do 90 minutes you understand it's just six minutes and you find yourself up there minute two and a half out of shit to say like when you take a when you piss in a bottle though right at the top and then because I'm texting and driving. Because the car, I farted in the car, right? But I can't, because, thank you.

It's my time. I know, we're only three minutes in, Dak. I like dogs. But when the dog with the spot on it, it makes, crazy. Thank you. We're at three and a half now. So Kevin Nealon has to talk in front of the city council about the elephant

in the zoo and how it's being treated, how it needs to be freed. And I know in his mind as a comedian, they said, look, you have one minute. He went, one minute? I'm not going to be able to get in all my thoughts in one minute. You got to tell a joke. Always start with humor. Watch how long it takes. It's like being in the ring with Tyson for one minute. I'm not going to be able to get in all my thoughts in one minute. You've got to tell a joke. Always start with humor. Watch how long it takes. It's like being in the ring with Tyson

for one minute. See how long 30 seconds feels. I'm Kevin Nealon, and I am not anti-Zoo, but I am anti-inadequate Zoo. I just want what's best for Billy the Elephant, and not what's best for the L.A. Zoo. Ten seconds.

He's out of steam at nine seconds. If an elephant has a choice to go to a habitat or a sanctuary like the one down in Tennessee, I'm sure that they would take that in one second. From the history that we understand about the L.A. County Zoo, it's not a great place for elephants. Look at all the elephants that have died there since 1975, and it's not good. So I'm in favor of moving Billy out of the zoo, as I think everybody should be. And I'm sorry that so many people are misguided with the exhibit, for the plans for the exhibit as it exists now. Thank you.

He only got to 46 seconds. But you know, he said, do you need, much like Clint Eastwood, do you need help? I'm Clint Eastwood. I got it. Yeah. He was seven and a half seconds in, and he ran out of steam. Louis C.K. says, how do you write a sentence? Open with your clothes on.

And I did that. And then that's what happened. It was like, ta-da! If I were reading his mind, though, seven seconds, he's like, oh like oh shit I should have thought about this You got to double back around Did I tell you I was married Well I'm just my second wife Who knows the dreidel song

Here Alright bone marrow last question That's sort of the first law of public speaking Make sure you have something to say You have to say it but make sure you have something to say. You have a say, but make sure you've got something to say. Take some paper, take some notes. Leon? Hey, Ace Man, Dr. Drew Dagg.

Love your guys' show. Hey, what's up, man? So I just had a question for Dr. Drew. I'm getting ready to, well, I'm a potential match for a person for bone marrow donation, and I was just wondering what the process is for it. You know, I've never been through it. I've never put somebody through it. I know it's kind of painful.

Explain the procedure. Well, I don't know the procedure. I've never seen the procedure done. Then why did you take the call? Yeah, I didn't think I had to. You said you were an expert. You know what's painful for me, Dr. Drew? You told me I need to be observant or shillel.

No, right now. This is an emotional bone marrow transplant. For me. For me. Oh, sorry. It's painful. You don't know what you're doing, and you're just fluttering. This is like we're on a 42-inch trawler with a flying gaff and a skip boot.

And we just hit some rough sea. Hold on there. Give me a couple darkies. Put a chink knot on it. Hold on. Whop it. Whop it. Whop it down.

But I do know it's a lot to go through. Leon, is there somebody you know you're donating for? They're doing it through the Department of Defense. I went back when I was in the Marines I signed up for it and this was like in 2004 and back in November they called me up for it it's a huge deal and just hats off for being willing to go through all this

you may want to put on your darky slickers so you don't get that wet back it's raining out alright buddy, you're a hero hold on, Adam, you've got a taco bender just one, please well, you don't have bender? Just one, please. Well, you don't have the beans and rice.

Just please. You want one taco bender? Yes, sir. All right. We're going out on a high note. And you want to support the show, you go through the Amazon banner. Adam and Drew Page. Sorry.

David Alan Greer. The great David Alan Greer. And Dr. Drew. And Dr. Drew. I'm here all the time. February 7th, that's tonight, through the 9th, Carolines, and then right back to gobble up a bunch of Grammys. And you can tweet him at David Alan Greer. And then I want David on my podcast. Come on, the Dr. Drew podcast.

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