The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - BEST OF: #1068 Lights Are Racist

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew open the show talking about idiosyncratic TV characters from days past before transitioning into a conversation about an article Adam recently saw online regarding photography and racism. They then turn to the phones and speak with a caller who is considering a legal separation from his wife and another who wants to know the differences between two erectile dysfunction medications. Please Support Our Sponsors: Angi.com ForThePeople.com/Adam or Dial #Law (#529)

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Really? I look forward to talking to you. Wow, all right. I do. Woo! Woo-hoo-hoo. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Remember that actor in the 50s and 40s? You'd always go, yes! I think it was even on lucille ball um i think uh mr it was like mr mooney mr drysdale not mr drysdale mr drysdale owned the bank yeah uh and he was from the beverly hillillies. Yeah. Mr. Mooney owned the bank that Lucille Ball had to get a job at. Right. And his whole thing was like, yeah. You could make a living for one sort of mannerism. Oh, routinely. Back in the days of television and three channels and stuff, you had one kind of thing.

You had your idiosyncrasy or mannerism or just that was your, that was his. And nobody else could touch it. Yes. And he made millions of dollars on that. Mr. Mooney, I always think of you when I think of insane articles. There's an article that I just screwed up. Oh, yeah, there you go. There's an article, Gary, I'll let you flop around.

I'll give you some time. Somebody sent me a tweet. It's always funny when you stumble onto stuff. Like somebody sent me a tweet, like a link to the New York Times. They go, look at something. And I was looking at this article. And then to the right, I saw the other stuff that they're running. To the right, I saw the racial bias built into photography.

Well, it's black and white. I had to click on it, but it made me laugh, and all this stuff makes me laugh because, oh, look who found it that fast. The thing that made me laugh about it is a few short years ago, Dennis Prager used a kid that if we're coming to a time that if you heard a story where the uh aclu had brought a suit against the lowercase t for looking like a cross yeah that you could almost believe it like as incredible as that sounded as sort of orwellian far-fetched outer space. Oh, come on. But that story about the – if you said the made-up story, which is the ACLU is bringing a lawsuit against keyboards that use a lowercase t

because it looks like a cross or resembles a cross, you'd go, okay, that's a made-up story. But if you said Kamala Harris is talking about virtual reality or whatever, whatever cyber learning, whatever cyber, whatever, being racist, that's her thing, racial bias, and then racial bias in photography, you wouldn't know if that was a three-card Monty game which one was made up. Right, it's true. Doesn't sound... They all sound about the same. Does not sound outrageous at all anymore, right?

No. Sounds like a Tuesday? at all anymore, right? No. It sounds like a Tuesday. Yeah. Sad, yes. Mm-hmm. Drew? What are they saying? The lighting is somehow not designed for the darker skin?

I find myself taking a dive into these things, like the Kamala Harris thing with the AI is racist and blah, blah, blah. I, because I'm wired the way I'm wired, you know what I think to myself? My first impulse is, well, that sounds outrageous. And my second impulse is, well, they're going to prove it because I'm going to read this article and they're going to point something out to me. And anyone who listens or reads or, you know, Freakonomics or whatever it is, you go, okay.

So if you listen to Freakonomics, they go, well, it turns out that rent control actually hurts the poor and the people that rent. It's not good for renters. It hurts everything. It's shocking. It's shocking. But you go, okay. that's an interesting premise you know vinnie comes in in here and says butter doesn't make you fat margarine makes you fat and you go well that's not that's counterintuitive or that's not something i've heard of but now tell me yeah and then vinnie lays out a case and when he's done

you go oh okay yeah i got it and when freakonomics guys explain to you why rent control doesn't help, the renter doesn't help the people it's supposed to help, you go, okay, I'll listen. And then when they're done, you go, okay, I get it. The Kamala Harris AI think there's none of that. And there's none of it in the, you know, the photography is raised like they don't make it. But I go into it like I'm going into Freakonomics.

Like, okay, now a bunch of super salient points are going to be made and I'm going to be coached up. But then it's like nothing. Right. Which is my whole thing is like you can make whatever proclamation you want. And then in the body of the article, defend it. Now it's time for you to, sure.

Now it's time. I'm pretty agnostic going in. It sounds far fetched, but there are many Vinnie talking about eating lots of fat and steak and beef and butter and dairy and stuff. That sounded a little far fetched too, but now I'm all ears. And then when we're done,

I go to Shay, you have made your point and there's evidence too i mean not just an argument there's also here's the outcomes right you know one of the things about important things about scientific arguments is they predict the future right you know you have to be able to whatever you're describing has to have an outcome associated with it and uh yep lo and behold it does gary are you able to find out why photography is racist? Let me keep reading. I'm halfway through.

What's the basic premise? We haven't gotten there yet. I'm halfway through the article, and she's explaining how – the article starts with the author, who is a Harvard professor, talking about how she was on stage about to give a presentation and the lighting technician told her that the clothes she was wearing, which was like a tan slacks and a light jacket or beige jacket wouldn't work because they were lighter than her face was.

And she's black. So she's going through this. I don't know. Let me keep reading. So lights are racist, not photography lights, light, light,

no, no lights. Okay. Got to get down to the core. Lights are racist, not photography. Lights are. Light, lighting. No, no, lights. Uh-uh. Okay. Got to get down to the core. Lights are racist. Right? Well, at a certain point in the article as I was looking for it, it's like the lighting

guy had to go and be coached up in the lighting booth or the whatever, the stage manager booth. He had to get yelled at. But it's like, I feel like he's doing his job. Like, he's saying you're not going to be seen as well as you'd like to be seen. Given the light equipment we have. And given your skin tone. Like, these are factors. And he's explaining what's going on.

And I'm sure there's a super light-skinned version of this as well. super light-skinned version of this as well. And maybe if you're the whitest chick in the world with ginger hair and you're wearing an all-black outfit, he might say it's going to look like your head is just floating out there. Whatever that is. I'm sure he's had other discussions about that. He's a professional. I'm sure he's trying to fix something that he thinks would be advantageous to you.

Right. Trying to help. Trying to help. All right. Let's see. We got Drew's measles PSA. Well, let's get the calls first. We can take some calls.

Yeah. Want to talk to Jimmy? Yeah. Okay. Jimmy? Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, man. Hey, how's it going?

How are you guys? Good. Good. After the hey, man, we're ready to move on to your problems, man. Hey, how's it going? How are you guys? Good, good. After the hey, man, we're ready to move on to your problems, man. Quick question for you. My wife and I have been in counseling for about five months, and we have a two-year-old, and basically nothing's really been the same since he's arrived. And my wife, I guess her libido is completely gone. So after about five months of counseling, the counselor recommended possibly trying separation

to see if that has any outcome. So I was wondering what your thoughts were on that. Weird. What are the letters after this therapist's name? I can tell you right now. One second. Okay. Well, first of all, why isn't your wife being evaluated by a gynecologist for her low libido?

She was. But the gynecologist actually used a metaphor and said to her, if you were on an island and relaxed, would you have a libido? And that's sort of how she raised her name. You have no libido for about a year. Is she breastfeeding also? She breastfed for about five months. Our son is two years old now.

Okay. And has any libido returned? Not really. And I can give you the letters after the name now if you'd like. Go ahead. L-C-P-C-N-C-C-M-A. All right. Licensed counselor.

Yeah. Yeah. So they're in different states who do it differently. But here's the deal. She should be seen again by somebody who has endocrine background or gynecology. There are ways to restore her libido biologically. If she's not breastfeeding and it's more than a year since the delivery, usually there are treatments that will help, number one. Since the delivery, usually there are treatments that will help, number one.

Number two, I find it bizarre that they're recommending separation since the majority of separations, significant majority, end in divorce. And I don't know why they recommend that unless there's domestic violence or abuse going on. No violence, no abuse. It just feels like things have changed and we are looking for some kind of catalyst, I guess. I don't know. The separation worries me. How many square feet are you living in? 2,000 with a finished basement, which you just got done with another 900.

So not optimal, but decent. That's not bad at all. Who did the basement? General contractor. That's not bad at all. Who did the basement? General contractor. Was your wife's idea? Yeah, it turned out pretty nice. How old is she? She's going to be single? We're a footage theory, so it's a good idea.

I like doing a project. You love Chicago, too. Chicago's my kind of town. Played that Park West a few times. Oh, yeah, over on Armitage. I would say this sounds a little weird to me um it sounds sort of like separation feels like the beginning of the end uh i like that you guys are in counseling together i also feel like libido for women can be a chemical thing but

oftentimes can just be an emotional thing relational thing and i you know the difference between men and women is uh whatever's going on in the relationship emotionally it's kind of carved out from the guy's libido so whereas let me explain something to you drew as a car guy yeah okay okay can i do this Can I do this? Please. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a first world problem, but it's a car guy thing.

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Cars. And cars, and the male libido, and how does this pertain to the famed Lamborghini Miura? Ooh. Miura? Miura! Miura. Miura!

Now, the earlier models had the transverse mounted, mid-engineengine V12. Okay. And it had the transmission attached to the engine block, essentially, one kind of unit. And it shared the same oil. So the transmission fluid, transmission oil, and the engine oil were just shared. It was still back and forth. Like instead of putting five quarts in the transmission and five quarts in,

just put in 10 quarts and just use it. And it wasn't as good, of course. And then later on, versions came out that had a split sump, they called it, which is engine oil over here and transmission oil fluid over here. That's the male libido we are split we can have horrible emotional arguments whatever throwing throwing of plates transmission is still working that's that's this and then there's this and that's different that dipstick still rock hard my right drew dipstick still runs deep dipstick still runs deep. Dipstick still runs deep.

Regardless of what's going on in the transmission area, this is a whole different part of the engine. It's going, firing on an all-cylinder. Yeah, still can't go straight. That dipstick running deep. Women, they got the first-gen transmission oil where it's all mixed in together. Yeah. So if it's not going good and the transmission department is going to just slop on over into the engine and now the whole thing is going to be fouled.

Yeah. You feel me? Fouled. Is there a better description of the two Levitas? Well done. Well done. And it doesn't mean, you know, a little bad oil or a little water in the system because it'd still work. But if the whole system in the tranny side is fouled, it's going to just...

Yeah, whole thing's going. Not working. No. But the males? No. In fact, sometimes the engine is running extremely well. It's true. It's a man of passion.

I'll tell you what. No, it is. It's a man of passion. I'll tell you what. No, it is. It's true. Sometimes we can squeeze a few more RPMs out of those rods and cranks. Right. Because somehow we're compensating that bad tranny fluid. All right. So that's the analogy.

Go ahead, Gary. Which one? Well, you know what? You can find that engine and how it worked at some point just for fun i'm sorry i was reading which specific engine picture of the engine lamborghini mira with the let's talk to my single sump uh you have a you have the racist photo info oh i'm sorry info oh racist photo info sorry racist all right dude you want to talk yeah i can fill you in if you want basically um there's a lot in here but what she's basically saying is that for a long time when you would take a

photograph and you would send it off to be uh developed the technicians would match it to a picture of a woman called shirley in what was called a shirley card which is a white woman white woman with brown hair. So when they were developing it, they would attempt to match a white person in the photo to the Shirley card. To get the tones right? To get the tones right.

And it would be at the detriment of people of color because they would not be toned correctly. It talks about how in the late 90s, sort of as digital was coming to be, Kodak relented and developed multiracial shirley cards first one with an asian chick and a black woman shirley hemp hill card and they eventually added in a latina but then it kind of went by the wayside as we went to digital and she goes on to argue that the algorithms in digital photos are still biased towards white

people and against black people she talks about how facial recognition technology is not as apt at dealing with dark skin tones. It's just basically saying that the technology itself has always been somewhat racist. She points to the fact that the first adjustment towards brown colors being more correct was after the complaints of chocolate companies and wood companies who weren't getting the right tones out of their brown chocolates and woods. Big chocolate. She's basically saying that the only change that is benefiting people of color is coming from industry and profit and not just the inherent need to make photography equal. In terms of the algorithms in digital photography though, it's really that it's just deficient. It's not racist, right?

It just needs to be improved. I don't know, but is this the New York Times? Yes. They need a whole section like they have. When I was younger, remember they'd have that automotive insert? Yeah. You just open it up and you go, oh, we go down to Galpin and get a ford ranger for 199 they needed a whole section for useless stories like they could just like you know when there's there's a synagogue

shooting or big election or whatever it's going on put that in the regular paper and then put all the ai's racist and let's be in the supplemental thing in the middle sure here's your shirley card you know we're looking at it and then here here's the multiracial one that came out sort of... The article argues that this one was sort of defunct because by the time it came out, most people were switching heavily to digital. Alright, but anyway, it's a problem that

did exist but doesn't really exist now, I guess. Anyway, it is interesting. But it's still probably not worth an article because we're everything's digital now. Mike 41 Chico, California. Hi, guy.

Hi, guy. Hey, I saw your show in Sacramento. Brought my girlfriend and she hadn't seen you before and she was dying laughing. You were great up there. Appreciate it. You know, Mike, I don't like to talk about me. But just this one time. First off, no better compliment for me than I brought somebody

who didn't know who you were or wasn't a fan, and they enjoyed it. That, to me, it's a very pure compliment no matter what business you're in. And I always enjoyed that one because I feel like you're supposed to laugh it up, but I wouldn't feel like I did my job if your honey bunny didn't laugh it up. as part of my New Year's resolution, and it makes it a lot easier to, when you went out and did a free show on Thursday night, to then go out Friday night and do a show where you get paid for.

Right, right. It's the dust doesn't settle. Are there any surprises for you in doing this? There are. Well, and Mike, I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I'm glad you came out. It was a good night, I thought. Yeah, yeah, it really was.

It was. I appreciated it. And I'll answer Drew's yeah, it really was. I appreciated it. And I'll answer Drew's question, but first let's answer yours. So speaking of her, I've been with her for four months now, and I've never had any erectile dysfunction problems. I could walk around leathery and with a tent, no permeable all the time, and wind blows. And sometimes with her, it just doesn't work.

So I tried some Bluetooth. Thank you, Adam. Yeah, some what? Bluetooth. I tried some Viagra stuff, and it works well. Generic ED stuff that we advertise? I don't understand where it could be coming from. Well, the crazy thing is that women, when a man experiences that,

is running through an inventory. They must not be attractive enough. He doesn't like me. But in fact, it sounds like quite the opposite. This is one of the more typical situations. You're too into her, right? Yeah, yeah. And so you kind of get overwhelmed.

You get anxious. You want to be good, you know. And so this is more a function of anxiety about being too into your partner. You think so? Yeah, I suspect. It's a phenomenon that I have that sometimes it feels like, you know, you pull the plug out of a bathtub and how the water drains out.

That's how it feels with my boner sometimes. And it just goes away and it won't come back. That's literally what happens. Right. I've never had that happen to me before. I don't know if that might be something medical or you just think it's all psychological. Are you a smoker?

No. It's worth getting checked out for sure. If you were 50 or 60 or a smoker, we'd check you for heart disease because that can be an issue there too. It feels young. You're kind there too. But it doesn't matter. Yeah, Bill's young.

Yeah, you're kind of young. Once it happens, I always think when it happens once, now it's kind of tough because now it's kind of on. It's on. But I would get checked out, right, Jerome? Yeah, prostate disorders. There's a lot of stuff that can cause this. So you want to get checked out, and then you might just want to use what are called PDE5 inhibitors, Vagris, that kind of thing,

and just try it and see if it helps you through it once you've been medically cleared. All right, Drew. Yeah. You were asking about moi. Yeah, and surprises. Surprises. What kind of surprises? Well, you've been doing stand-up regularly now, and you've made it a discipline.

And I'm wondering if it's different than what you've been doing all these years, and if you've sort of come upon anything that was surprising that you've learned or felt, like it was super enjoyable or things you really didn't like. What kind of things were new and surprising as a result of this discipline you've taken on? Well, I'll answer that. There's a couple things. There's a kind of mechanical side of it that's a sort of rhythm, repetition, basic.

This is your spiel. You get a chance to work it out. And obviously... Did you develop it sort of on stage a chance to work it out. And obviously – Did you develop it sort of on stage or you'd write it out ahead? I would go out and I'd have my little beats of just the topics I wanted to hit. And I would start getting used to sort of crafting those topics. And obviously, it's nearly impossible to do from your living room. You have to just sort of be up on stage and do it's nearly impossible to do from your living room you have to just sort of be up

on stage and and do it so obviously the more you do it the more you refine that but and and that's true and so instead of taking three months off in between shows you wouldn't let a week go by without getting up on stage and it made a a big difference. I also started kind of going, well, just because you're going out of town to do shows Friday and Saturday doesn't mean you can't perform Thursday for free at the Ice House. So I've been doing that, and it helps a lot mechanically, but emotionally it actually helps a lot too. And the reason it helps a lot is your work, whatever that work is, you have it compartmentalized in your brain as like work.

You kind of know the difference between I got to get up, I got to go to work. You say, I got to go to work. You don't go, I got to play a video game. You say, like when somebody goes, can you come or do this? You go, no, I'm going to a movie or I'm going out to eat. And then you go, with work, you put the word got in front of it. Like, I got to go to work.

You're right. He never goes, I got to go out to eat or got to go see a musical. It's pleasure. So when you kind of think of what you do with work it's like you define it i gotta go to work and then at a certain point whether you're a tv doctor or podcaster or a stand-up you just kind of put got in front of everything you know like i gotta go down the hospital i gotta go to the podcast theater i I got to do a live show. Like, I got, you know. And when you start doing whatever you're doing for free and you're imposing it on yourself and you're just leaving your house at Thursday night, you know, after a pretty long day of

gots too, and you're just heading out, you're doing it volitionally. You're not doing it for a paycheck. Because you got to. You're not doing it because you got to. So now, when you're heading to the Burbank Airport and you're going to San Francisco to do a couple of shows Friday and Saturday night at Cobb's, you don't have that, I got to go to Cobb's. In your head, it's like, oh, no, I'm going up on stage. I get to. Makes you feel more volitional.

You go from got to get. Got to get it on, get it on. You don't got to. The line is getting fuzzy because I already did this. I get to go out on Thursday night. I got to go out Friday and Saturday night, but now what's the difference? And as you blur that line, your sort of dread level of like, oh, I just worked all week and now we're heading to the airport,

it doesn't – no, now you get more time. That makes sense to me. It's interesting. Yeah. I think I got a big dose of I get to by having had a full career in another discipline. Mm-hmm. Taekwondo. Yeah, sometimes.

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Let them do all the heavy lifting. All right. I think we'll drill down a little more on got versus between got and get. And we'll play Drew's Measles PSA 2. It's heating up the billboards, man. It's climbing those charts. Yeah. I'm going to strike while the iron's hot.

We can talk a little John Singleton. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah, it's sad. Very sad. We'll do all that. Not Taco Bell material, my stand-up special. You can get a chassis, 2S's and a Y.com.

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