The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - BEST OF: #843 Theo Von

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew open the show with Adam asking Dr. Drew about the alternatives to ambien to try to help him sleep on an upcoming redeye flight to New York where he will be doing the Match Game the following day. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller whose mother died from an opioid addiction and wondering if he can take his prescribed pain meds after a surgery. The guys then welcome in friend of the show Theo Von who helps them talk to a few more listeners and brings in a question from his own podcast, 'This Past Weekend'. Please Support Our Sponsors: Angi.com EnteraSkincare.com

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We love that about you. Hey, Drewski. Hey, man. Good news. Theo Vaughn's going to come in today. I love Theo. He's going to be good. I love Theo.

He really makes me laugh, that guy. Yeah, me too. Had an off-the-air question that we're going to pose on the air, Drew. All right. Sleeping medication. I know you don't like calling them sleeping pills. Sleeping medication. I call it hypnotics.

Hypnotics. Okay. I'm not really a sleeping pill guy. Yeah. But I've found something like Ambien, which I don't take, is good to kind of put you down, but at some point I pop up. It's good for four to five hours, boink, and then you're back up. Yeah. Well, that's good to know because it was originally just sort of said, hey, it's a sleeping pill.

But I noticed I'd take it at midnight. Well, first off, I might take it and go to bed an hour later. Well, it helps you fall asleep. It does a pretty good job at that. But then once it gets you in sleep, it releases you all of a sudden. There's sort of an arousal with that. Yes. And so I've found myself take the Ambien at midnight, go to bed at 1, and then at 5.30, I'm like not asleep anymore.

So that wasn't fantastic. You actually came out with a time-re release version of Ambien because of that. I'm going. So let me give you the scenario. Yeah. I'm doing what I do so often, which is heading out to New York to do a match game. Match game, difficult for me because I have to write answers to things and present it to the world. And I can't spell and my penmanship is very scary. So I have ideas in my head of when I, last time I did it,

I misspelled the word banana and was made fun of. That's good. I shouldn't be shamed that way. No stigmatizing. So now, Drew, I go out to New York. I will land in New York at 10 o'clock or something like that. But it'll only be 7 o'clock our time. And I'm not a big puss like you are with the time difference. But that night, it's tough to do it same day for me. Yeah, I know. Then I'll get out there and I'll get to my hotel, and it'll be 11 o'clock at night, and I'll be thinking to myself, the car's going to pick me up at 8.

I want to get some sleep. And also, you've got to kind of think on your feet for three shows, right? Now, the downside, though, is, I don't know about you, but those— Well, not like you. All right. Those medications— You take half a children's aspirin, and you're not in your right way. I'm not right for like the next six months.

I have some hangover sort of whatever from – I couldn't even characterize it objectively when I'm in it. Yeah. But I think it affects your speed of thinking and your sort of – I get it that – well, first things first. Getting a good night's sleep is paramount. No, that's also you're not going to think right if you don't sleep. So it's one against the other. You're sort of weighing it against something else.

That's right. Also, if I can get up, take a cold shower, move around a little, do a little shadow box and get a cup of coffee, by the time it's tape time at noon or whatever, I'll be fine. It's tape time at noon or whatever. I'll be fine. So what I'm thinking is my only thing is when I'm sitting in my hotel room and it's 8.30 in the evening Los Angeles time and I'm thinking, I got to go to bed because the car is picking me up at 8 in the morning, but I'm not going to bed because it's 8.30 in the evening. I want that pill where you go, I'm going to bed. At what time?

Well, you know. I don't know how heavy-handed I'm trying to figure out. You want to go to bed at 10 or you're going to bed at midnight? Whatever's going to put – the Ambien with the time release is kind of what you're talking about, right? That's right. That would do the trick for you. Although that's not as good as getting you to sleep. It's almost you have to take a little bit of a regular nap and then a time release. That's crazy.

Oh, what do you mean crazy? Write that down. Hey, man, get my mortar and pestle. Stat! Don't screw with the time release. There is a long-acting hypnotic we used to use called Restorome. That's really pretty long-acting. It could affect you in the morning, possibly.

So you'd have to take that one at 10. That's kind of you, though. Well, I guess I'd try one, see what it did. Yeah, yeah. See how I felt the next day. Are you going to make me prescribe these things? Is that what we're doing here? No.

Okay. I'll get my real Dr. Dr. Bruce on that. But that's your batting. That's your thing. The long acting. Yeah, all the other ones that are sort of commonly used these days are similarly short acting. I can't think of any that people commonly use. Sometimes they'll just use Klonopin, which is sort of an anti-

I don't think that- You're a heavyweight. I don't think it'll- Eh, Klonopin I've taken before, and it'll get you in the mood for sleep. But I wouldn't really call it a sleeping pill, so to speak. Old-fashioned Restoril. Pretty heavy-handed. Well, Restoril's got the word rest in it.

Right there. It's got to work. And then there's that other one. The problem with the other one I'm thinking of is also pretty short-acting. All the ones I can think of are short-acting. All the Zs, the Z pills are all short. They got the Z right there. Oh, yeah, you got to get your Zs.

So you're thinking Restoril. Yeah. What's good about that one? Long-acting. Long-acting. Yeah. So you don't have that. And heavy.

It's like a boom. It's a harsh try for heavy weight. All right. Mark's up there. They would not give it to an elderly patient. They would not. No elderly patients? No. All right. Get's up there. Would not give it to an elderly patient. They would not. No elderly patients? All right.

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Again, that is Angie, A-N-G-I.com. All right, let's talk to someone who's been on hold for a while. Micah, 32, Indiana. Hey, guys, get it on. Get it on, man. Hey, guys, get it on. Hey, now. Get it on, man. Hey, got a quick question. I have a surgery coming up, and I've never had a surgery really of any type before. Never had anything where I've ever had to been prescribed painkillers,

and my mom was an opiate addict and ended up dying from that. And the procedure, the doctor said he's going to fuck me up pretty good. What's the procedure? What is it? I'm having a lipoma removed. It's a pretty significant lipoma. It's like 16 centimeters by 6 centimeters in my groin, upper thigh area. That is that true.

That was a fatty mass lipoma. Fatty mass. They thought it might have been a sarcoma, but the biopsy came back okay. But he said it would be a good idea to get it out just in case. Yes, absolutely. It's not a super painful surgery, but it will be painful. And have you ever had a problem with alcohol or other drugs? No.

Have you ever worried you might get momentum with something? I've kind of always kept it in the back of my mind. So, you know, I've actively tried to kind of keep it at bay a little bit. But, I mean, I do drink recreationally and everything, but not really ever had a problem with it, I would say. Do you feel, is your relationship with alcohol the same as all your friends, or do you feel like it's a little different? No, I think so. I think it's the same. All right. So you don't, just because your mom was an opiate addict doesn't mean you're necessarily going to inherit the gene for addiction. It sounds like you don't have it, so you have no higher risk than anybody else.

Okay, great. Okay. But, I mean, still be careful because we don't know for sure, and obviously don't take the medicines more than a week or so, and then you'll be great. So you'd say about a week, no more than two weeks? Definitely not more than two weeks. Definitely not more than two weeks. Hey, Drew.

Okay. Thanks. Let me ask you a question. What? Ask me. You think about opioids. I don't care for opioids. And I talk to people.

I was listening to Dennis Prager's show the other day, and he said he had this surgery, but they took some out. And he's like, he doesn't like it. It makes his head feel scrambled or something like that. You're one of those guys. I feel this for work, yeah. Not for you. No. Not don't not not for you no um not for me not for you not and then other people they they start and they can never stop yeah um then you take something like alcohol and you go i don't know many people like i just know alcohol they go some people drink more, some people drink less.

Most everyone I know enjoys a glass of wine or whatever, a beer at a Fourth of July picnic or whatever it is. That seems like it doesn't take hold and it doesn't drive. It's just sort of, it's a kind of a... It actually can occasionally, but it's pretty unusual. Thank you for the point, Chad. No, no, no. Listen, I've seen it. I'm not saying it can't.

I'm not into opioids. You're not into opioids. A lot of people are just like, fat. No good for me. And then other people are like, can't stop the second they get started. Yeah, alcohol is not that digital. Not that digital. And probably pot's not that way either.

There's people that smoke pot they do it casually they don't or they do or they don't really like it though yeah but again it's not that binary let's not shit all over my point by bringing up the outlier examples okay but it's understood in general it's not that valuable okay is there something there's some correlation between things that take hold and grab and grab hard and those who really don't want anything to do with it? Because it's a little counterintuitive. You go, this thing takes hold and it takes hold hard and it sucks you in,

and then you ask you about it or me about it. It's like, no thanks. It's the genetics. genetics no i i get it but it's interesting to me that the the higher the likelihood i have a not interested you know as a guy he'll drink whatever smoke pot do whatever as a guy when you talk about opiates like the higher the likelihood of no thanks the higher likelihood of i am now hooked and will never stop. That's what it feels like to me. And could get started at age 52 after knee surgery.

That may be. It's interesting. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's like, here's what I'm saying. In a way, it's like. So in the same way it can be aversive, it can be motivating. To others. Yes. The degree of aversiveness is aversive, it can be motivating. To others. Yes.

The degree of aversiveness is inversely related to the degree of motivating. Well, think about kiddie porn. To the folks that ain't into kiddie porn, that's me. Not so much true. For those who aren't, it sounds like the worst idea ever. For those who are into it, it's an obsession. It's a lifetime's worth of work for them to go find it. You know what I ever. Yeah. For those who are into it, it's an obsession. It's a lifetime's worth of work for them to go find it.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So I'm just wondering if there's those things that... I don't... It doesn't fit. I get where you're going. Versus down...

So regular porn and beer, that's just right down the middle. Right. That just doesn't divide the earth into two. It's not everyone likes a beer and a little porn. That's a Fourth of July party.

And I'm just wondering if there's some correlation between me having zero interest in it and some people just going, I'm hooked. I've not thought about it that way. That's why I'm here. Yes, thank you. I will keep an eye out for it, but it doesn't fit the biology as i understand it so i've got to figure out another mechanism so let me let me keep an eye on it keep an eye on it hey theovan hey adam carolla we're big fans over here oh thanks man i'm a big fan both you guys i'm surprised you guys are still together how dare you sorry It's only been 25 years.

Most relationships last that long, don't they? Not in this town, buddy. Thank you for teaching him about this town. That's the crazy thing about Drew. He doesn't really know as much about the town as you'd think he would. No, I choose to stay out of it. I don't either, I've come to realize. Yeah, we've sort of kept a little bit away from it, you and I.

Yeah? Well, I believe that there's an element of playing the game which will help in your career. Sure, sure. And I've never really been. Not that I'm not a game player or whatever. I've just never been that interested in whatever the rules are that you need to learn. This past weekend is the name of the podcast. New episodes every Monday

and Thursday on iTunes. And there's a Comedy Central pilot coming up called Man Up. What's that about? Yeah, it's about young fellows that are having issues basically. It could be anything. Masturbation, kids busting out at home or outside.

It could be people that are having relationship issues. They're going to help. Yeah, young fellows. And I'll just share an experience. It could be people, you know, that are having relationship issues. Theo's going to help. Yeah, young fellows. And I'll just share like an experience. If I can relate, I'll share my experience. You know, I've made countless poor choices. So if I can relate, I'll share my experience. And if I can't, then we'll have other callers that will call in and share some of their experiences. And then we kind of put those together so that person can hear some other people's issues.

I got to go back on Theo's podcast so I can be in another shitstorm. Oh, yeah. What happened last time? Oh, yeah. What happened last time? He said some teen mom stuff, or I said some teen mom something, and a big shitstorm. Well, Drew was hanging out with pregnant children. Yeah, that's what he does.

Why do you think they got pregnant? Drew hanging out. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there's, you know. No, I saw that you do a video they got pregnant? True. Hanging out. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there's, you know. Do you still do this? No, I saw that you video it now too, right? Yeah. Yeah, we video it now.

No, this is my own. This is my own separate podcast. Oh, yeah. So it's been an adventure, but it's been a joy. I heard you had a call that came into your podcast that you wanted to bring in and share with Dr. Drew and myself. Is that true? Yeah, 100%. I just needed some more Cavalier advice, and I thought you guys might have some. Cavalier?

Yeah. There's no telling what's going to be on this call is what I'm saying. No, it's a real call. This is a real... Some of this had some... So they called in... Did they call and do this past weekend? Yeah, they called in this past weekend.

This is a feminine human. And from where? It's hit or miss, but it sounds like from abroad. Hey, you can call me Amy. I'm from Saudi Arabia. I have been dealing with depression and anxiety too

for maybe seven, eight months. Probably more, I don't know. But I can visit or see a therapist here because, you know, they're very expensive. And from what I've heard, they are very bad. But honestly, I don't know why I'm making this call. But maybe you can give me an advice or something that will make this more bearable.

Because I had suicidal thoughts. She had suicidal thoughts. So you got somebody out there in the sand, you know? She's a Saudi. She said that she couldn't go to a therapist because they're too expensive and bad? Yeah, I don't believe either. Yeah, are they bad over there, Dr. Drew?

Look, she should start with a general doctor. That's where she should start. Because if she's suicidal, that is a medical emergency. She sounds like she's in young adulthood, late adolescence. And that's when all these symptoms usually just pop in. Anxiety, depression, panic. I had all that when I was that age. And sometimes a little bit of medication can really change the course of something like this,

particularly somebody like her who's not willing to go see a therapist. Yeah. Ideally, we want to see a therapist and get some medication for a little bit of medication can really change the course of something like this, particularly somebody like her who's not willing to go see a therapist. Yeah. Ideally, we want to see a therapist and get some medication for a little while. How is therapy in that neck of the woods? Yeah, it sounds sketchy. How do you know? I mean, it just, if I had to think about it, and I close my eyes and really think about me being in therapy in Saudi Arabia, I feel like

it's scary and there's not a lot of, like, water in the building. I don't know. I think they probably have pretty sophisticated stuff, just like anywhere else. It's not like it's a... They're not a lot of water in the building. I don't know. I think they probably have pretty sophisticated stuff, just like anywhere else. It's not like it's a third world country. No water. I mean, they might have water. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how. I'd like to know. They've got those flying cars now.

How could they be unhappy there? I would be curious what cultures hit up the therapist the most. Hit up? Hit up. You mean a go-to? You mean like a boo? Thank you, Drew.

I shall just speak like I'm reading a freeway sign. Theo was confused too. What cultures hit up the therapist the most? Who's going culturally? I would say, all right, who are our neighbors? Mexico and Canada. Who goes more, Canadians or Mexicans? I'd go Canadians.

Now, I don't know why, but I would bet Canadians every time. You know who goes more than anybody? Well, hold on. Yeah. Something Jew. No. No, apparently, I believe it's Argentina. Apparently, literally, yeah.

The Indians, huh? Everybody has a therapist. It's sort of a thing. You have a therapist. Well, I would like to know, and I wouldn't think this is why I'm asking. Argentina. I wouldn't think Japanese would be like that. I think less, but I would think as they got wider,

I think Sweden more than Japanese. I'd try to Saudi Arabia, I'd have down there. The more towards religion, the less towards therapists. Okay. There's a general move that way. So, because they feel like the religion has failed them if they aren't praying it away and stuff like that. Japanese kill themselves.

I mean, they nip it in the bud. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think it's reincarnation. Didn't you want to write a book about that? It's in the reincarnation belt, isn't it? Adam's got a new book he's putting out. It's called If We Were Japanese, We Would Have Killed Ourself a Long Time Ago. Oh, wow.

It's his new book, right? I like that. new book i was watching the obama documentary it was like the last uh 12 months or whatever and they chronicled the uh part where he had gone to japan to lay the wreath at nagasaki or whatever it was. And it was great the way it was chronicled because the way they told the story is, we just randomly bombed Japan. Like, that's the way they'd done it. Like, hey, you know, Japan was shipping over some Toyota trucks, and we had a little itchy trigger finger, and one of them had a bad starter,

so we called the Enola gay to go over there and settle their hash and it's like yeah you guys were doing a lot of slaughtering of indigenous people of islands and a lot of the americans and americans themselves and there's that whole little uh there was that whole little pearl harbor debacle which got you incinerated now but i just like the way obama up like, hey, sorry, man. No one ever – and I love this thing where it's like no one ever dropped an atomic bomb. No one had an atomic bomb, you ass fucks. We built one so we could fucking incinerate your ass so that we could end the war.

And guess what ended the war pretty good. Well, by the way, there was a conventional option. And the reason we didn't do the conventional option, it would have killed hundreds of thousands of more people. Right, but he's got to go over there and apologize to everybody. Of course. That's the part I like. And I just love the in a vacuum.

Like, what'd you guys do? We just dropped a bomb on some peaceful folk, school-age kids playing outdoors, and we showed up with a bomb. We just blew them up. Can you imagine all the chopsticks hitting the air? There's some peaceful folk, school-age kids playing outdoors, and we showed up at the bomb. No apologies. We just blew them up. Can you imagine all the chopsticks hitting the air? Oh, man.

We got to really think about that. Can you imagine two million chopsticks hitting the air? It's all the final year on HBO. Apologies for Theo. I can't believe they bombed them. How about that part where we shamed Hitler into killing himself? Yeah. Certainly, we should go lay a wreath on his bunker, right?

Yeah. That was the Russians. We were wrong. The Russians did that. Jesus Christ. We ended that war, and that's how we ended it, everybody. And CBS is gross, dude. I don't like being at CBS.

CBS Pharmacy? Yeah. I like them. You do? Yeah. What do you like in there? It seems like I'm in there all the time these days. It's not true. What is it, though, about it? do you like in there? It seems like I'm in there all the time these days. It's always something.

It's not true. Yeah. What is it, though, about it? That I like about it? I don't know that I like it. It's just got what I need all the time. When we're in New York, there's one downstairs. It just seems like I'm in there every day.

Oh, yeah. If I lived on top of a CVS, I mean, in LA, I'd be homeless probably if I did. But otherwise, I would love it. I'd love to go downstairs and have one. But I don't like being in there because everybody's sick and like. Yeah, that's true. Just like looking at bulk bags of candy and just wiping their boogers on everything. Yeah, it's a little bit of that.

It's shady, I think. It's not the CVS. It's the people that sort of shuffle around. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Hey, speaking of shuffling around, Theo taught me something that really kind of blew my mind about these families where he lived that would keep a kid at home out of school to make him seem like he was mentally deficient, to get a tax, to get

pay, money. Dummy check, they called it. They had names for it, and everyone knew it was going on. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of kids did. They would keep a kid out of school because if he tested poorly enough, he was labeled mentally handicapped, you know, or one of God's favorites. Some people said it. But it's, and then the family got the money. So he could still, you know, do athletics and be outdoors. He just didn't have, you know, as many school and social skills.

But they would get the money and the family needed the money, you know. And some, I remember I had a buddy named Devin who actually went to jail for murder, but this is before he was murdering anyone. He had a brother that was a dummy check. You used to express a lot more disdain for that behavior. Now you're saying they need the money? Oh, I mean, look, I think I have a little bit. It's a noble endeavor.

Yeah, it's a noble endeavor because I didn't realize what the family goes through. It's hard to really keep somebody dumb. It's harder than you think. So then they need the money to maintain it. There's always those out – there's those sources that are coming in. Can't stop them. Yeah, there's outside sources, people trying to sneak them books at night. It's like Cuba, you know?

And everybody knew in your neighborhood that these kids were that. Yeah. I mean, people knew it. I think at a poorer level, you know it more because there's more of them. I think at a wealthy level, they just think that everybody's probably dumb. Have you changed your

feelings about America? You had lots of feelings like his, like Corolla's, about giving people the freedom to pull themselves out. I think I'm in the middle. I'm probably like a Drew Roller. Yeah. You know, I think somewhere.

I mean, I still think there's a lot of straight Muppets out there and the solution comes from yourself a lot of times. You've got to solve your own stuff. Yeah, that's out of sync. You know, I think at a certain point we just complain about so much stuff, but we don't really act towards any solution. We've had the same problems for 60 years in America. It's like government's not going to solve it, dude.

No. Correct. All right, someone's got an interesting question here. Fillmore, 42, Singapore. Fillmore. Oh, wow. They could be next. What's going on? You think Saudi was cool?

What's going on? You got a question for Drew? I'm just getting up. I'll couch it in such a way as to not get you guys in trouble um the i believe there's a celebrity out there whose last name rhymes with uh burn who's actually a closeted homosexual and has been for pretty much his whole life and in this day and age with the freedom wealth at least in north america that homosexuals have to actually come out,

and how much of a press boost they often get. They're celebrities. Hey, Fillmore, real quick, are you from Canada? No, Singapore. But you've got a press boost. You say the boost is like Canadian. Oh, sorry, yes, I am from Canada, but I'm actually not living in Canada. Yeah, there's no way you could ever cut through the fog of that question. Are you from Canada? No, I am from Canada, but I'm actually not living in Canada right now. Yeah, there's no way you could ever cut through the fog of that question. Like, are you from Canada? No, I'm from Singapore.

Except where I grew up. Drew, that was so worded like a Rubik's Cube. That was a Corolla-esque question. His head must have been swimming with that are you from Canada question, especially when he hails from Canada. There's no way anyone could have got through that Rubik's Cube, Drew. I know. I'm sorry. I apologize. We're not all physicians here.

I won't be so obscure. Please. Sorry, Phil Marr. That was an attack, him asking where you were from. And you've got a misunderstanding. Oh, it's fine. The Kardashians show is attack enough on Canada. The thing is, I just don't understand the psychology

of why someone would stay in the closet, especially in this day and age, unless they were of a certain generation. Do you know is he closeted to himself? In other words, does he really know this? Hold on. Rhymes with burn. I thought Laura Dern. Is that a person? No, but Seacrest

rhymes with burn. Rhymes, Seacrest, it's almost the same, but Seacrest rhymes with burn. It rhymes Seacrest, Seacrest. It's almost the same word. Seacrest, burn. Like if you were writing a song and someone said, hey man, I want to say how much I burn for you. What rhymes with burn? Like your songwriting partner might say Seacrest.

Yeah, that's a good one. I don't know. There's nothing that rhymes with burn other than stern. That's the only, I don't know. Can anyone think of something that rhymes with burn? I can think of something. Learn, like Larry Learn, but I don't think that's a person. No.

That's a poster at a special needs school. I want to deal with the question. That's a good point. And he's also not at school. He's getting a check at home. That's right. The dummy check. Yeah, Phil, so what are you talking about?

So far you're 0 for 2 in the coherent department, but go ahead. So you're asking. Well, first of all, congratulations for Drew for being such a cunning linguist and figuring out my accent. That's true. But I just don't understand the psychology of staying in the closet for either homosexuals or bisexuals, for that matter. All right. So can you understand? First of all, that's every individual's choice, correct, to come out?

Sure. I don't think it's a matter of – look, hold on a second. I don't think that it's a matter of hurting your career. Although, if you're mike rowe and you're gay god i wish he was gay oh you too oh what a team would you two be great what a team those two micro babies oh so awesome oh we we die trying but here's this handsome i just love that guy's brain and we we would build stuff together every, we'd be at the Home Depot. I'd be pushing the cart.

He'd be throwing stuff into it. All right, all right. Home Depot, change one letter. My point is this. If you're Mike Rowe and you're gay, maybe there's something about your brand that it's hurting a little bit. Yes, all right. But it's more, I think, for people it's more about like their family and stuff like they don't want to deal with the family that's right usually right so film where you don't

know from whence they hearken necessarily and sometimes they can come from family systems that are extremely intolerant and might reject them or hate them or who knows what and they just know better than to let that out but your question question, though, is what about gay men that marry? Is that right? Yes. I put it on hold because I was tired of it. So the marriage thing, I just think that's a massive denial of being homosexual. Let me see if I can work out this Canadian thing and be a little more cogent with this. Wait, let me-

Hold on. Oh, damn. Dude. Hold on. Still hang on. I was going to ask Fillmore from whence he hearkened because that would have given us a clear Canadian answer. Yeah. He would have been confused by that too, I'm afraid.

From whence do you hearken? But listen, I think that people can compartmentalize their sexuality. And some people really feel as though they're heterosexual. They believe that and they want to live with a family and they have this concept of who they are in their adult life with children, and the gay piece is like this sidebar. It's like this hobby they have. Even though, if Fillmore's right, it's probably really their more mature sexual identity.

They just not come to terms with it yet. And distance gays, too. They have distance gays who are like, you might be gay because there's not a woman for 150 miles. That's right. That's like prison gay, right? Yeah, I think prison gay is another thing. Drug-induced homosexuality was popular

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It is Entera Skin Care. There's a call that's been on hold for a while. It's Mark up there. 40. Denver. What's going on, Mark? Hey, wow. Hey, guys. Oh, my gosh. So happy to be getting it on. I'm a huge fan. I've been listening for 20 years. Thank you. And I've got a question. My girlfriend and I just moved in together, and we both have taken this 23andMe thing, and both

of us are carriers for cystic fibrosis. Wow. Yeah. Kind of interesting, kind of bad news, but good to know. And as things develop, we're talking about kids and all that. Curious what advice you might have moving forward. I would talk to a formal genetic counselor because those, particularly 23andMe, are sort of screens. They're not very specific genetic profiles. So really, and I know color.com doesn't really screen for that. So you want to go talk to a genetic counselor before you have babies

and make a plan, find out what the real risk is, what the probabilities are, how to test for it, maybe in utero or not, or make a decision you're not going to do that. But this is something you've got to sit down with a professional who does this counseling all the time and figure out what your plan is together. Hey, I did one of those. Not this one, but I'm just talking to Theo Vaughn here. Yeah, those things are dangerous, huh? What?

It's sorcery by mail, it seems like, some of that. I did one of those genetic lineage things. You've got to do color.com. I looked back at my family's history. I was shocked. Turns out my family are current slave owners. No way. I didn't even, we didn't have to go back.

They literally own, when I got the paper back, first off, I was devastated. But I found out they were current slave owners. And like, I know Ben Affleck and some of those guys come from ancestry today in apartments that they live in. I was appalled. I called my dad that night. I was holding back the tears and the rage. You know what I mean? When you see current slave owner on that piece of paper, that's heartbreaking.

Yeah, I was in Mississippi and a guy jumped out of the woods and asked me if I had any news from the north. That could have been one of my dads that got away i'm just saying it's happening out there he could be on the lam and i'm not surprised i'm glad that they're having people i'll show you his crest off the air you tell me if you recognize as long as it's not burned into the back of someone i'll take a peek at it that's why i could never host that show drew like uh you think you know you or whatever those stupid shows are because i tell Sarah Jessica Parker I tell her she had

current slave owners in her family that'd be my running joke it'd be funny right see how they react who were the slave owners I wish they would do a test that did say that like who the slave owners are they found out that Ben Affleck found out he was a

had family history the ancestry is not the DNA he tried to put the kibosh on it. He literally said, like, don't air this. And then we found out he said, don't air it. And then it got worse. It's terrible. Wow.

So I would say, turns out there seems to be some history of slave ownership. And then Sir Jessica Parker would go, when? How far back? I don't know. Let's call them right now. They're in Florida. They're still here. Yeah, down in Delray Beach.

They're in State County, I think. We can call them. Ask them yourself. That's why I could never host that show. Drew, wouldn't that be funny, though? Yes. It's funny now. Current slave-on.

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It's like, you know, my daughter ice skating or something. You know what I mean? At some point, the guy goes, hey, she's cute. Let me turn this over. There's where she lives. That's like baseball cards. A lot of pedophiles collect those now from kids from, like, a long time ago. You know the ones you would get made yourself?

Oh, yeah. They busted a lot of pedos and they got stacks of those cards. People don't realize it has a kid's stats on it. He's holding a little bat. See, this whole thing about not being able to read, which started off as sort of a detriment to me,

turned out to be the tree that never stops giving. I've missed all... I didn't have to collect comic books and have baseball cards not reading keeps you out of a lot of trouble a list of jams really you know what they don't have anymore is ransom notes remember that where they cut up cut up the letters or just even left one like you don't even see like that's the thing i miss about people are too lazy to do proper ransom notes where you cut out also by the, I've seen the movie where the detectives show up to your apartment and find the newspaper with the letters cut out, which is a telltale sign that's a ransom note.

Yeah, it has something to do with it. Here's the thing. If you're going to do that kind of ransom note, you'll have to throw away the USA Today that you cut all the letters out of. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you could advise somebody on Man Up how to keep from being caught. Oh, that's what I wanted to say. Theo Vaughn. We could advise him.

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