The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Brandon Stogsdill (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew discuss Adam needing a physical. They also talk to Brandon Stogsdill via phone and hear his story of going from being an incarcerated felon to a graduate student and author. Afterwards, they take listener calls about online dating, torn meniscus rehab, and trouble getting pregnant.

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Doctor physician patient etiquette here. I don't really have a doctor as far as I know. I don't think you or Dr. Bruce or something like that, but I don't really have a doctor. I don't do things. I need to do things. I'd probably get a colonoscopy and some things like that. You should arrange that. I really don't have a doctor. People say, who's your doctor? I just go, Dr. Drew. Here's the deal. I can't be your friend and your doctor. Hold

on a second. But I can be your friend that is a doctor that sets you up for the right stuff. Yeah, yeah. You never do anything at you. You never do anything on me. I never do anything on me either. I would never get you to listen to me. No, but people say, like, when was your last physical? It's always like, I don't know, whenever someone needed me to get a physical for something to do something. Right.

When was the last one? A couple years ago? Yeah. Because I had my meniscus repaired. Oh, was it? Because I had my meniscus repaired. Me? Yeah, when I got my meniscus repaired a couple years ago, I got blood work up and whatever. But I haven't had a real physical, I don't have a real doctor, I don't go to a doctor, I don't know who a doctor is, I don't get sick, I don't get anything, so it never comes up.

But I should start getting this stuff done. Now I have to get a physical for racing. Full physical or they have their own guys for that. You go to a doctor. They fill out some shit. So any physician because sometimes like for the for aviation stuff they're only certified guys. Oh yeah. This isn't quite not as rigorous. Okay. So I will set that up. I found somebody we got somebody but the thing that saddens me is I had a nice woman doctor who saw me when I got my meniscus thing and all they do is ask you things you know for the most part

they take some blood and Then they ask you, you know family history of whatever blah blah blah blah blah blah It's always no no no no no no no diabetes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, and then at a certain point She says alcohol drink Little how much well, you know socially how often? Well, every day, but like everyone. Every day. Well, you know, a glass of wine. We'll go one glass at night. Well, a couple of you. A bottle of wine. You know, at night, like everyone. And then she says, smoking. Do you smoke? No. I mean, socially. You know, I'm not a smoker. I don't smoke, but I drink. How often do you smoke?

Well, just when I drink. So, okay. You know, I go through this with every single history I take. Oh, yeah. I have to go... Here's how I deal with it. I go, how old were you when you first smoked? How much were you smoking at the most? How much did you smoke yesterday?

How much you smoke on average? Would you say that's an average amount these days? You have to be a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker.

I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. I'm not a smoker. you first smoked. How much were you smoking at the most? How much did you smoke yesterday? How much did you smoke on average? Would you say that's an average amount? You have to literally ask these questions because people will not tell you. Well, just say, I don't know. Also, when you get them, have you had a cigarette today, for instance? It's not a bad question. How have you but anyway so she's gonna with the the cigarettes and the booze and but I'm staring at a picture WC fields and he's holding a cigar and a glass of Sherry I took a picture you can

oh there it is we get now we have to kind of zoom in on it I don't know if we can zoom in on a little bit to get the full effect, but he has a lit cigar, and he's holding a glass of sherry. In his right hand, he has a, in his left hand, he has a cigar, in his right hand, he has a brandy snifter, glass of sherry, and he looks out of it. Big red nose. Big red nose and a huge gut. And as I'm sitting on the end of the doctor's table, she's talking to me about drinking

and smoking and I'm looking at W.C. Fields, who was actively drinking and smoking. And now, first off, is there a federal law that she's complying with that there must be a picture of a 30s vaudevillian comedian? Or did she choose to put that picture up? She put that picture up. She did, you think? Yes, she did. Because you asked her, I'm sure.

I said to her, I find it ironic that I'm getting dressed down about my casual smoking and drinking while I'm looking at a drawing of A guy who's currently smoking and drinking was probably killed by this. He was he died at Los Encinas Yeah of alcoholism of alcoholism. Thank you. I wish I had that tidbit and I said I find this ironic That you would choose to put this picture. Look, first off, you can go with zero pictures. Not like I'm going, I never go into a doctor's office to go, hey, where the fuck are the pictures of the comedians? Nothing?

No, nothing at all. No comedians, it's not a deli. You don't, or dry cleaners. You don't need pictures of comedians. But you could put a picture of a hawk or an eagle up there. I'm not gonna have a beef with that Okay, or you know you just take some Print of some lilies or something and you go ahead and toss that up there. You know Monet and no no problem

No problem at all, but So she so she says Had this office for nine years no one's ever brought that up were you shocked no, yeah, I had this office for nine years. No one's ever brought that up. Were you shocked? No. Yeah. I don't know.

You're not shocked anymore when people are robots. Well, people go, that makes you very perceptive. And I go, no, no. Everyone's wildly out of it. I'm staring at a guy who's drinking and smoking while you're talking to me about drinking and smoking. That's not wildly perceptive. That is just people being tuned out. So I... You know, there's a new book out about the sort of life of a psychopath written by an

attorney who is a psychopathic woman and how she perceives things so differently than the rest of the people. I'm going to get the name of that book. It was just out. It was a New York review of Books last week. See if you can find it. Yeah. Well, so I found it interesting. Now I took a picture, but I forgot to take the picture of the Marx brothers who were on the other side of the table.

And she said, I said, look, here's what you do. Swap out the Marx brothers for the guys drinking and smoking and that way when they're sitting at the end of the table and you're lecturing them about drinking and smoking they can stare at the Marx brothers only one of them smoke I say only one has a cigar right so swap that out put WC fields against the wall and she said to me now I like the Marx Marx brothers where they are." I said, why not just swap them out? She said, when I do the rectal exams, people bend over the table this way. They seem to enjoy the Marx brothers.

I'm such a dick. I'm like, use the word enjoy. She's like, yeah. Do you really think that's bringing them joy? Did she test your prostate? I'm like use the word enjoy Yeah So you really think that's bringing them joy. Did she test your prostate? No, she didn't. Okay. She's I said I would argue It's not bringing him joy Maybe it takes the edge off this joy So it was a funny conversation so now I never got the picture of the Marx brothers

So it was a funny conversation. So now I never got the picture of the Marx brothers. Never saw it. No, I never took, I took this picture of it to make fun of her. So now I said to Matt, Matt, get me set up with that woman again. Well, first I went through it with Lynette about 300 times and then Matt about 300 times.

To get set up with her again. I need to get back into that office. Is this that woman over at Hollywood? Is this that one that does all the physicals in Hollywood? No, she's another kettle of fish. No, I need the picture. I need to get back in this woman's office and take these pictures. Just so you can get the Marx Brothers shot.

I need the Marx Brothers shot. Do it while you're getting the prostate exam though. That would be nice. You can do a Vine while the prostate exam is going on. WC Field, Marx Brothers shot. Do it while you're getting the prostate exam though. That would be nice. You can do a Vine while the prostate exam is going on. WC Field, Marx Brothers. So I'm not that good. So as it turns out, she's only working with the elderly now. And I got to go into the same building and get a physical for driving, for racing.

But I wanna still get into her office. We'll talk to the office, we'll have Gary go talk, call the office manager, sneak in. How do you couch that? What's the discussion? I'd like to make fun of your office on stage. He's got a thing and we're already doing it. He just wants to complete the story, that's all.

And by the way, what if she had said, Mr. Kroll, this is a cautionary tale. This man died of alcoholism. I want them thinking about that while I'm talking about the... I would have said Touche. I would have said Verna. Good call. All right.

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All right, Drew, you have someone calling in. I do. It is Brandon Stogsdale. He is somebody that I've been supporting for a long time. You can hear him on drdrew.com at the Dr. Drew podcast. He came in a couple times and told his harrowing tale. I think I thought you had met Brandon, but he's a kid that ended up becoming like, Oh yeah, no, I remember him. I'm sitting on the sofa and you walked out after the show

and said, you remember this guy. And I went, huh? Yeah. I remember that. No, that was Sean Green. Well, he, that was Sean Green. Well, that was Sean Green, that's right. Brandon ended up being a violent criminal going to prison and turning his life around using basically cognitive behavioral therapies and 12-step and whatnot. And now is a very talented therapist on his own right. And he published his book on Dr.rew.com called Boy with a Gun. Oh, Brandon, do you grow up out here?

In Washington, I think. He's on the line, so ask him. Brandon? Hey, what's up? How are you? Where'd you grow up? I am incredible. Thanks for having me on the show. You bet. Our pleasure. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Tacoma, Tacoma, Washington, and then I went to school in Seattle.

And your story is what? I know Dr. Drew gave us a thumbnail sketch of it, but the full hand. Well, I kind of want to start just with how important YouTube played a role in my life. And that basically started when I was actually in prison. I was about 19 years old. And I was really just kind of hostile at this time, really angry. started when i was uh... actually in prison about nineteen years old and i i was really just kind of hostile at this time really angry i was trying to do it right trying to make right decisions that i was living with like sex offenders rapist

and i felt like at the time i friend my friend abandoned me my family abandoned me and i was just really depressed and uh... and then all of a sudden i get a knock on my door and it's all a key africanky African American male just laughing hysterically And he's telling me to turn on love line And I knew a love line from MTV days which I love so I turned it on and then from then on you guys Give me something forward to look look to I was laughing at all your jokes

But basically Adam you were talking about particularly no doubt my my jokes of course what year was this Brandon? This is in 2000 you were talking about training the murder of crows to attack purse snatchers. Attack crows. Attack crows. 2000. Attack crows. Hold on a second, Brandon. Hold on, Brandon.

Oh, sorry. Adam needs to gloat for a second. Yes, it's nothing but study after study about how crows now recognize face. They memorize people's faces, how if you study crows, you have to go get them from the nest. You have to put masks on., otherwise the scientists will be attacked. The cars and stuff.

Oh, it's all coming. All coming with the crows. But this is 2000. Yeah, and I was just reading an article about how crows are similar to how primates are basically in evolution. They're considered, they used, first off, people send me videos of how they use tools in a way that really only primates can do, which is... Purposeful.

They put a piece of cheese inside a glass box that they can't get to, so they use one stick to get inside a glass box to get to a longer stick, then they use that stick. It's two or three steps removed. Wow. That's what they can do. Yeah, so basically with that... There will be a tack cross. There will be. I'm sure of it. I've no doubt. Maybe that's a movie we got. Anyway, I think it's been done. Go ahead, Brandon.

Yeah, so while you guys were doing your comic genius and Dr. Drew's using big words like trick-a-tealer mania and talking to air fix phone operators who took your advice to use subliminal messages to increase the length of their calls yeah I was in my prison cell at 19 just soaking up laughing and and I just was listening to you guys giving all these people all this advice and it was great advice but most of college just wouldn't get it and I'd get mad and angry and then one day i humbly probably realize that i should take a picture of the bike

not exactly what i did and i started to understand my path which was basically my mother was raped and that's how i can see if you have mentally ill addicted to domestic violence with her boyfriend i was molested at four which i learned on from dr through the mouth and while in prison and that all led me to come really insecure pathetic and angry and then um... because of you to like i am i've been waiting for this vote to talk and thank you guys publicly like for so long with some super happy

uh... because they're too good your chemistry together you have a great wall to like kind of break down my barrier of it would trust you guys take your advice and then as i uh... i remember i didn't'm trying to go to church and i didn't even was still trying to write that right i've learned about my past and learn about inmates were kind of the hurt and abuse

i don't want that i put but like you put on the heart to work with kids and prevent them from ending up in the very prison felt that and uh... i think i could create the enough venture but i think that's what i didn't 10 years later with an experience in education, now I'm a licensed mental health counselor, child mental health specialist,

and now I'll be starting a doctorate program, which Dr. Drew's encouragement and direction he gave me years ago, so I just don't know if I'm gonna start in California or Washington, so I just wanna say a big, big, incredible thank you guys. You guys, I'm fully indebted to you, and Adam, you'll be proud. You guys, I'm fully indebted to you. And Adam, you'll be proud. I turn on every red arrow.

Yes. Great time today. It's so good to know with your criminal record, Brandon, that you break the law on a regular basis on behalf of Adam. Well done. Well done. That's going to read well. Man's law is God's law. Oh my God. Brandon, go ahead. Well, you'd be proud too because every time I get intensely attracted to a female, I just take a deep breath and I just turn away and I just let her go. There you go.

There you go. He has a history of pattern of bad stuff. Bad decisions. Not only that, I sometimes find me giving advice to my clients and families verbatim, the words and wisdom you guys gave me. Well, let's talk about that said advice for a second, Brandon. Thank you so much for those kind words and That's why I you know, people say what do you like better TV or radio? I never hesitate

I always say radio and now it's podcasting because it penetrates even within the thick walls of the prison cells Yeah, it penetrates Yeah, you being on TV and laughing it up is fine But you don't have that kind of relationship with Jay Leno. Right. You know, and you're not supposed to. He's supposed to do news of the day and tell jokes.

I always appreciated the fact that we could penetrate and then hopefully create some change. The last show, Drew and I were talking about words and advice and change. We do a lot of, or at least Drew is much more dismissive of it than I am, although it's his business to tell people what to do. You know, hey, look, some people don't change. They don't listen. They don't want to listen. It's not their job to listen.

You can't make them listen. I was doing that on your behalf because you insisted that people change. I'm saying you can't change everybody. You can't. No, but on a more global perspective, I don't know why. Whenever I say to somebody, look, I'm telling this person, here's what you do. Here's how you handle it. Someone always jumps in and goes, well, maybe they're not ready to change. And I go, da da da da. They're 46.

I'm explaining to them that they need to do this and do that, not for me, but for them, well, you know, there's just some people that you can't give advice to. Da da da. That's not for them. For you, they're saying that, though. That's what I'm saying. Why have we crafted a society we didn't used to work this way the elders, the shamans, the doctors, the truth-tellers, the folks who would come down from the mountain would go let me share my wisdom with you and we wouldn't go fuck off pops. We'd go please elder share my wisdom with you and we wouldn't go, fuck off pops. We'd go, please, elder, share my wisdom. Every, every culture had that let's go sit by the fire with the elder while he explains what the fuck is Yoda. I'm Yoda, bitch. And what I'm saying is, is Yoda

didn't start talking and so on. Hey dude, fuck off. Did you take your asshole pills today? I'm going to go have a cigarette in the parking lot. You keep talking a little man No, they listen to Yoda. I had wisdom why quiet? I tell you why quite now. I don't want to know why I Yell why yeah, it's it's please don't answer why not right? No, it's when you see one of my car got got it got a ding in the door And I look up to the heavens and scream why in the parking lot of Costco I don't really want to know why but the point is this Why have we crafted a society that's filled with people that go?

Hey, you don't let anyone tell her maybe he's not ready to change her You don't have to listen to what happened to the society where people went. Hey, you should listen this guy Yeah, he knows more than you look at his house got a big house on the hill I guess he got that because he was smart so why don't you listen to him instead we're picking on the guy who's giving the advice and telling the person who's renting a shitty apartment and driving a piece of shit car you don't have to listen to him so why because you never our families are so fucked up that we didn't have circumstances where kids learned from their parents, they learned to distrust their parents, avoid their parents,

be angry with their parents, try to get around. Even more reason why we need a society. No, I agree, but that makes more of an anti-social flavor. So wait, hold on. What makes more of an anti-social flavor? When parents are abusive. Because kids then want to, they reject authority, they reject people, they can't trust people.

No, I understood. That's where society comes in. But hold on. Now listen carefully. I would argue that in the 60s and 70s, it became this cultural sort of ethos that, hey man, you don't, remember, was it don't doubt authority, whatever it was, or don't question authority?

No, no, you don't question anyone, you don't trust anyone over authority. That was what we grew up with that's still in the vapors. We're trying to say ethos by the way. It's in the vapors. I pray you're not saying ethos instead of ethos. I don't know what I was saying. Okay, good. Okay, but I will say ethos from now on. No, say ethos. Ethos. Yeah, thank you. Okay. But I will argue that this current generation coming up, I noticed it in my kids, they look at adults. There's no generation gap. Remember the generation gap? Sure. So people are saying there is one because of this whole digital age. I would argue there is not. I've noticed kids that are raised in stable families look upon adults as assets. Hey, you're successful.

Tell me how to do this. What do I need to do? They really like, they soak it up. They want to be around people that are, they listen, my kid will listen to you. Maybe not you, but. Well, no, my kids look at me as an asset, meaning your ass is blocking the set. We're trying to play Wii over here. Wow.

Anyway, I think it is changing. I think it is changing and I think it is changing and I think it is appropriate to try to require people to change. But change is hard and people have to be ready to change. That's all I'm saying. You could get frustrated. They don't really have to be ready to change. They have to change. Yeah, you can send them to boot camp. They'll change that weekend. So let me finish Brandon's story for you. I think you'll appreciate this. I gave a talk at a college in Puyallup, Washington. Yeah?

Yeah. And this guy came to me, and he was just as humble as he is now. And he said, he was very enthusiastic. He said, please read. Would you read my book I've written where you guys were so important? I said, I'll read the whole thing. This is a crazy, amazing story.

And the book was amazing. And we've now published it at DrDrew.com. You can get it there. It's called The Boy with the Gun. It is his entire story. It is educational. It's important. Support Brandon. Buy that book. Read it. You'll enjoy it. And you'll hear his whole story, which is it's just hair-raising. It's incredible. And there's something to learn from it along the lines of what you're talking about here. How did Brandon change? Brandon changed. Yes and I you know Hillary Clinton once said it takes a village and I agree and that the parenting is going into the crap or the family units coming undone and that's where society steps it up and says well

you grew up without a father fine I will then help take that role. I'm never going to be that. I was coaching my son's basketball team the other day and there's a lot of moms there and a lot of dads weren't there. So I'm assuming those kids may not have had a dad in the house, but I became their temporary dad for that one hour that I was coaching them. I can tell that they appreciated it, but I do worry that our society is not creating the kind of structure that these kids need who grew up without structure. Instead, they have social media to get their information and direction from.

I mean, it's like they get from a mob. Yes. and direction from, you know what I mean? It's like they get from a mob. Yes, and we are not, as a society, saying, look, you may have grown up without discipline and without X, Y, or Z. Now you're going to get it. We're not doing that. We're doing, oh, you can't judge. And that's our problem. Brandon, how did you get it?

I mean, obviously, it's easier to get it when you're incarcerated, I guess, than it is when you're running the streets and having a good time. Well, you're incarcerated, I guess, than it is when you're running the streets and having a good time. Well, to a point I would agree but two out of three inmates return to prison so not a lot of people do get it but for me it was a point when I was 17 when I was arrested and sentenced to four years in prison that day the judge sentenced me. It just felt like I died and I even my family and friends are watching me walk away like it was a

funeral and I woke up the next morning in prison and realize that i wasn't dead by decided right then to change everything but i didn't know how to do it or it's what to do and i just knew i really want to do it but inside of me with all the popility and anger and uh... the first thing was just kind of focused in on education something i was really hard for me

and then um... like like that just looking for people to try to gain information which you guys provided that kind of focusing on education, something that was really hard for me. And then, like I said, just looking for people to try to gain information, which you guys provided that to a T. And then God got a hold of my heart and changed it and then gave me a purpose. And then I just realized that this world, I mean, there has to be something more to it. And basically just started to make progress. And then after three and a half years, got out without a fight, without a scratch and made it into a college campus. But that whole story, Chronicles in the book, and how he made it through without fights and stuff is crazy. Yeah, and it was a lot of thinking. I had to kind of weigh the pros and cons, think of the long term,

because I never thought of the long term before, it's just always what's the coolest right now. And then there, it's like, I never thought I'd ever go to prison, and now, okay, I'm in prison, so, but bad things can't happen, so I need to start making some positive change it's it's an interesting point and it I Was plagued by this as well when I was 21 22 I kept looking down the line and kept thinking What is what what I was gonna work 40 years old and you're going to have roommates and you're going to be driving a Beat-up pickup truck and you're going to have kids. How do you support kids you when it rains? You don't work that day

You don't get paid that day I mean currently the situation I was in and I I was with a group of people Who I kept sort of looking down the road saying what is this going to be like for all of us when we're uninsured and unable to make a payment and unable to come up with a down payment and unable to have credit and blah, blah, blah. They were just like, I don't know, crack a beer. Let's party. I was like, no, this is sad.

This is depressing. It's weird because when I talked to some of my friends about the early days, they were like, ah, it was fun, man, smoking all the weed, running around, doing our thing, blah, blah, blah. And I go, it wasn't fun for me. And they go, why? We're having such a good time. And I was like, because I kept thinking, what is this going to turn out like?

How I couldn't do the math. That's the problem. That's sort of the cycle of poverty. Oh, part of it's not thinking about it. But it's like, I'm making $8 an hour now. I'm driving a beat up pickup truck and have three roommates. How do I get? I can see a world where I'm making $13 an hour, but I don't think that's going to cure this problem. Yeah, how's this going to work? And I don't know how you give that to a 21 or 22 year old, but someone should say, Hey, would you like to start working on this so you don't see your 30th birthday and have this disaster? Brandon saw that. It's a brain thing. It's a frontal cortex thing. And also, yes, and Brandon's right that two thirds of people leave the prison and end up coming back to the prison. But also I feel like Brandon was smart enough and had time but he was he didn't know he was smart he thought he

was dumb no I I know but he had time he had time meaning it wasn't all one big video game and trying to get laid right it was like I'm thinking even still though most inmates gamble play cards get into this game when I learned how to make meth the first week I was in prison. So for me it was stepping away from everybody. And I graduated high school with a 1.87 GPA just because girls did my homework and I wanted to impress the judge. Entered prison with a ninth grade level of education so I really did not ever get at school. Wait a minute, what? I have a 1.75? Geez, I think you nipped me. Brandon, this is the Adam Corolla story. You got a 1.8.

I had a 1.7. Hey, girls did my homework. That's the only reason I did that well. You never mastered that one, Adam. No, that. Ah, 1.75. There it is. Ah, how did it make me look bad?

Only 497 out of possible 570. 61882. Yeah. I was almost 500 out of a 570 Terms of ranking and I'm guessing 50 those people dropped out in the first semester I see there's 73 people below you with a point seven five. Is that possible? I oh my god How's that possible? I Thought I stood all right. Look some 497 out of 570.

But like I said, I know that at least 50 of that 570 never showed up a day. They moved to Arkansas or were killed somewhere. That 570 is a number that started the first day of my senior year. This is the most potential, but I have to take 50. I have to be 49 after before ninety seven out of five twenty. That is that for that year is that four years average. I think that's the three year average oh my god. My class was five seventy nine five hundred that's all. Good batting average about batting five hundred man that a free. That's that's a free ride to college. Hey Brandon. Yeah

Thanks for worshipping me Hey speaking of worshiping you I heard on the last podcast used to be MX ride motocross and basically when I was in prison started dreaming of what I wanted to do which was become an at-risk or work be a licensed counselor and Work with kids. I wanted to use action sports was become an at-risk, be a licensed counselor, and work with kids I wanted to use action sports, or extreme sports, like BMX, snowboarding, wakeboarding. I had this hypothesis that it could strengthen the therapeutic alliance, build their confidence. For sure.

Increase. Increase. Sorry? Yeah, go ahead. Makes sense, yeah. Yeah, and increase their cardiovascular endurance. And I've been able to do that for the past three years. And this Friday, the local news is coming out, KCPK News,

and radio shows are going to come out and actually do a story on my clients and get to show the community how this works. Can they find that? Is that the Premier Therapeutic Experience? Is that that? Yeah, I do that for my private practice, and then also do it for community mental health

agency. PremierTherapeuticExperience.com. You can get his book at DrDo.com, The Boy with the Gun. And of course, there's a Facebook dedicated to the book forward slash The Boy with the Gun. That's Brandon. He's a good guy. I thought you enjoyed talking to him. No, listen.

Everyone loves a feel bad story and a feel good story. It's just sort of in between stuff we're not that interested in. All right. We have your calls, Drew. Yeah. Pick a call up there that you think would be a good teaser. Ooh. Newlywed?

What? No, no. This is something interesting. Ooh. Newlywed? No, no, this is something interesting. Tormeniscus. 60 year old online dating for seniors. We have never dealt with that. It's fascinating. All right, quick break, right back after this. Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Kroll Show.

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Thanks for sticking with us before we get to the calls. Drew. Yeah. I realize, you know, we used to talk about, last year we talked about me being an asshole all the time. And now we have the ice cold air in here because Drew likes it cold and I like it cold. Yes, yes. When I'd rather be a little cold than a little warm.

Yes. But you remember all those years of Love Line. Yes. It was a sweat box in it, right? And I would say, hey, what's going on with the air conditioning in here? And this would be, you know, 1996. And someone go, well, it's what happens is when you leave it on, it freezes over. Right. And I'd say, okay, well we need to fix it. Right. Because it's hotter than shit in this little room we're in. And they'd go, yeah.

And then? Nothing. Two years would go by? Yeah. And I'd be sitting there with sweat pouring down my forehead trying to interview no doubt. And I'd go, hey, it's hotter than shit in here. What's going on with the air? And they'd go, yeah, when you turn it on,

what happens is it freezes over. I remember them repeating it. Yeah, understood. By the way, I don't know why I get a lot of this in life. Like you're explaining to me what's not working. Yeah, and I remember, listen, it got so bad. I remember you going, and don't give me this bullshit about freezing over and they're going, no, you don't Listen, it got so bad. I remember you going and don't give me this bullshit about freezing over and they're going

No, you don't understand it. It freezes They actually come back at you again with it. Well, it's open with don't tell me why it's not you know What the mechanism is just fix it but you're you're you're working under the assertion that there's no air conditioning that works on the plan Right. They all freeze over I'm working under the assertion that you can call a guy in a phone book, it's called HVAC guys, they'll come over and for a certain amount of money they will correct said problem and then we can have air conditioning in our box on one of the biggest radio, radio shows in the country. Would that be all right? And it probably happened 20 times. And again, I don't, of course I start turning into an asshole. I don't... You did I start turning into an asshole I don't

They did turn into an asshole. We have video of it In fact, you got to find it Gary where you jump up on a console kick the thermostat off the wall Remember that well, that's after it did get fixed But they wouldn't lower it enough for for our liking and they locked it You got to find the video. It was awesome. They didn't give the key to the person But I'm saying to you Drew I have had this happen a million times and people do this to me all the time in my life. It's like you're a mechanic or something and you break a timing belt and you go, the car's not running. Yeah, timing belt's broken.

See you later. Yeah. We need to fix the car. Yeah, well, it's the timing belt. Yeah, we need to replace the timing belt. Yeah,'s the timing belt? Yeah, we need to replace the timing belt Yeah, well, it's not running because of the timing belt Understood. Let's replace the timing belt I we could talk about why it's not working and I've had this conversation with many people many times where I just go This much I understand now

May we move on to the part of the conversation? understand now may we move on to the part of the conversation where we fix the problem or we're going to keep sitting here discussing the timing belt which was torn off the the camshaft many years ago. Oh yeah. What, Drew, what is what is the part where there's even the thing that's offered up? It's some sort of weird resistance like, I can't get to this. I'm not going to fix it. You know what I mean?

It's sort of a, I've done the best I can and we're not going further. I want you to stop here with the frozen over. Just stop. Even though they don't need to, they just want you to. It's a sweat box. I'm not going anywhere. And to be fair I'm sure they got the same shit back to them that they didn't push through. You know what I mean?

I'm sure we've went upstream people and I had froze over It was just freezes that don't turn don't turn it on full as opposed to go get it. You know, you know Yeah, no understood. I'm always interested in the answer that's provided to me Which is though yours what's yours what you're fascinated by is that people would expect that you would be satisfied with that answer that's what's fascinating to you yeah not that they give you that answer that you that you would stop with that answer it's basically the guy who's on the lot with the clipboard what's your name Pinsky not on the list I'm here to visit my friend Adam. He's taping a show. Yeah, it's not, no, no. Okay. Well, I'll go try another lot. Do you think this, how this exchange is gonna end?

You're gonna have to say, what stage is he on? Let me call that stage. It's never gonna end with you just going, well, I'll just go try to get into another lot. I'll try to gain access to another random lot that my friend, whose name I made up, is doing a fictitious TV show on. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes. Curious.

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The Four Seasons song with your name in it. Don, Don, go away, I'm no good for you. Yeah. Is that it? That's it. That's it. They say Don once. They don't go Don Don. Don go away. Oh, it's a great song. We'll find it. It's one of the best four season songs. Good. I'm satisfied. Normally I tell people their song name and they've never heard

of it. Okay. What's up, Don? Okay. So I'm 60 and I decided to dip my toe into the online dating world and so I've gone, you know quite a few fifty plus sites and There's a lot of men with profiles that they like to walk on the beach Take bike rides do all this stuff. They don't want to do nothing really They want to have sex probably want to do nothing really. They want to have sex probably. Well I don't even know about that. Wow. I found it very difficult to date my age. They're too old for me. Meaning they're too like not interesting, not fun? Look really old. Oh. Yeah. I like this. I've been told I look you know early 50s. I have a very young, youthful outlook and personality.

And these guys are all like granddaddies. What do you do, Dawn? Oh, Dr. Drew will love this. I'm a therapist. Oh, good. That's cool. What kind of therapy? I do therapy in the addiction field.

Oh, interesting. Interesting. um... i do therapy in the addiction field uh... interest uh... so i you know as far as the age goes uh... i don't know drew stop me uh... we don't really much like the forty five-year-olds going out with the nineteen-year-olds but once everyone's past forty five does it really matter

you know what several issue today to forty five-year-old and or i it's just like what what you get north Does it really matter? You know, once everyone is... You mean if she were to date a 45-year-old? Yeah, or it's just like, once you get north of 45... Is it north or south? North. Oh, screw that up. Once you get north of 45, does it really... Or let's just say 50.

Does it matter if an 80-year-old goes out with a 55-year-old? Here's where it matters, and I have dealt with this a lot in my practice, is if you get married. Well yeah, but it's probably not looking to start a family. I'm just saying, it doesn't matter for dating at all, but for having a long-term relationship, people somehow don't factor in aging and the future. You date a guy that's 70 and you're 50, you're going to have five good years and then 15 nursing years. what what done? the BS factor on the

Older websites the touch of gray websites What is I wonder if I wonder if there's more BS? I think she's saying there is it makes well, but she doesn't know because she's not been on the 20-something-year-old websites. Oh, right. I think it's a different type of BS. I mean, it's all high school. But our people are- From 13 to 83.

First off, do people have pictures of themselves up from 1988? Exactly. And those are kind of easy to spot. And I like the ones that give a progression of pictures, you know, until you come to the most recent and it's like, ooh. Yeah. It's like, off the table, done with him.

Yeah, but they're active, they do stuff, they go rollerblading, they love concerts, they love walking on the beach, they love all of this stuff. That's all bullshit, yeah. And you can barely get them out of their cave to meet for a cup of coffee. Dawn, what's your relationship history? I am never married. Why? Oh, busy. Busy with your profession or busy with my profession?

Or were you using addict at one time? Pardon? Were you using addict at one time? Oh, no, no, no. Okay. No, no, no. I was in corporate marketing. You know, then I did a midlife career change to go into the mental health field.

So, my career and profession, and I've not been very good at dating. Which is weird. You sound... I'm not accepting busy. Yeah. You ever had any kids? Nope. She sounds so personable, like somebody you'd like to go out with. Heavy set woman? Nope. Tall. Tall, Halle Berry Brown. Okay, yes I'm very attractive. I have a very, you know, I've been told vivacious personality. I don't know. I used to say that I was immediately attracted to emotionally unavailable men. So your dad abandoned you. Hello, Dr. Drew. Exactly.

Yeah. So that's why you never formed a full attachment. Too scary. Yeah. Okay. That's acceptable. Mixed marriage? What were your parents? Yeah, so that's why that's why you never formed a full attachment. Yeah, too scary Yeah, okay. That's acceptable mixed marriage. What were your parents? Creole both sides. How did that up? I didn't well she said she was Halle Berry Oh, okay brown so I thought somebody was white and somebody was black then they got the Halle Berry brown Got it. Got it. Good way to describe yourself on the dating website, by the way. I work Halle Berry into my description as well. That'll get him.

I'm gonna bang people look like Halle Berry. That's what my profile says. Look, Don, your problem of not having any problems is not a problem. But there's something that runs a little deeper, because nobody can call Dr. Drew and myself and say, hey, I'm young, I'm energetic, and I'm good looking, and I love life too much, and that's my problem.

That's why I can't take it. That's not a problem. If that's a problem, you're going to find a 40-something year old guy who, you know, look, the thing about age is we all know 70 year olds that seem very old and 70 year olds that seem very young. If you're 70 year old that seems very young, you should date a 50 year old, you know, vice versa. So, something is going on with you, Don, that is not, that is preventing you from finding what you want in a mail too busy

not really an excuse but she knows she knows it's abandonment stuff but she's seems like she's ready to kind of reach out and find someone else will make a discipline of it keep going out maybe not so much on the website you're finding that unsatisfying network through friends go as so many ways got me people these days and i would imagine and would say, correct me if I'm wrong, at 60, your best pool of good people, good males, would be sort of widower kind of thing, or at least divorcee. Somebody who's had a stable relationship.

Yeah. You don't want a guy that's single, period. No, not at that age. Yeah. And the guy that's lost his wife through circumstances, those could be really cool guys, right? Yeah. And then that's going to be the majority of the free guys are going to be divorced, and then there'll be a smaller subsection that are widowers.

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Here we are. What's going on? Kind of crazy you took my call after that when I actually met my wife online also. Nice. Well, not also. Anyway, what I wanted to talk about. We're newlyweds trying to have a baby And it's not working. It's been about a couple years of trying and it's really taking a toll on her emotionally

Yeah, me as well I mean, I don't know how to I can only say so much to her to try to you know Take the burden off of her put it on my shoulders But I mean, I don't know what else to say to her besides let off of her, put it on my shoulders. But I don't know what else to say to her besides, let's get therapy. And I was curious if you guys had any advice besides therapy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say therapy. I didn't jump right to that. I jumped- Oh, no, no. No, I know I should-

Hang on. I'm saying what you know. What you jumped to is fertility treatment, because that whole world... Look online. There's a whole world about fertility and dealing with fertility. Oh, sorry, I should preface it with that. We have already tried the fertility clinic. It's a bit expensive for us. Yeah. Yeah, I know I should be, if we're going to have kids, I should be able to afford that

in the first place. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. The fertility clinic stuff is really expensive. Really expensive, yeah. And I would not hold you to that standard. Now have you been tested? Has she been tested? What is the issue?

What's the fertility issue? Well, we've both been tested and it's looking like she had a variant cyst in the past. And from what I understand, that's what's hindering the process. Okay. So she has sort of an ovulatory cycles, that's called. Okay. So she needs sort of an ovulatory cycle, that's called. Okay, so she needs to get treatment for that. Why aren't they trying to stimulate ovulation?

I mean, they have, I mean, we even did the insemination, we've gone that far, where, you know, I go to the clinic, very awkward, by the way. I go to the clinic and I have- Adam and I have produced samples at the clinic, lined up with everything. Oh my God. Oh yes. The guy that was right before me left his damn magazine open. He was so uncomfortable.

Who are those people who leave their stuff open? Sir Walter Raleigh. He was ahead of me. I was offered a basket of porn. I was offered a basket of porn like on a Southwest flight. You know when they come around with that weird wicker thing with the chips. The nuts? The nuts in it?

No, well not so much the nuts. No, it'd be like a JetBlue thing where they have like five different kinds of chips. Oh yes, yes, yes, that thing, right. That's where I had one of my greatest encounters where I was like, what kind of chips do you have? Uh, sir, it's in the back of the Sky menu. Well, what do you have there? It's in the back, it's all in the back of the Sky menu.

Or you could just tell me what the fuck's in the basket cunt I swear to God hold on we'll get back this I swear to God jet-blue again. I said give me a light beer What kind of light beer would you like sir? I don't know what do you have whatever whatever your light beer is It's in the back of the sky menu. I said you have Miller light or Bud Light She said I can't remember but it's in the back of the sky menu I said you have Miller light or Bud Light she said I can't remember but it's in the back of the sky menu I said Miller light Bud light whatever it is just bring it sir it's in the back of the sky menu I should whatever the light beer is just just bring me the light beer that'll be fine it's in the back of the sky menu if you look I don't know what same cunt did the thing with the chips like first off bitch you don't

remember what fucking beer you have on your fucking airplane by the way you didn't have to remember you didn't ask remove that I said whatever either I know the domestic it'll either bud or Miller fine it's Coke or Pepsi and I'm the guy who doesn't care so just bring me one light beer and that'll be fine sir check the back of this guy. I love it when my hash needs to be settled even though I'm not doing anything. I fucking want those people's heads removed. I really do.

So here's my advice for Justin. Justin, do everything you can to see the fertility treatment through. You will get pregnant with it. But it sounds of what your circumstances is. You can get pregnant. Please throw some resources into that. I think it'd be worth it. pregnant with, but it sounds of what your circumstances is, you can get pregnant. Please throw some resources into that. I think it'd be worth it. Number one. Number two, go ahead and get online with some of those support groups with your wife. Just hooking her up

with other women that are struggling with this can go a long way to making her feel better. There are a lot of them out there. James, quickly. Kansas City 27 Tours. Meniscus. We're just talking about this. Yes. And training for the marathon Yeah, and I was just kind of wondering hey Will I be able to get back to my level of training ever or is it something where it'll just be?

It'll slight pain and also I kind of wanted to know how your knee is because you tore your arm and ask us I tore it once when I was about 21 22 and then move furniture that night and so it was good enough to move furniture except first wall up the next I didn't put ice on it I heard it pop or whatever I did not literally have an ice bag and would not put ice and then this time I tore it when I was skipping rope and drew. It's because somebody made me custom shoes.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no other reason I skip rope every night. I never tear my meniscus. But anyway, no big deal. I made the mistake of tearing my meniscus this time and going out and doing a car race about a day and a half later and crashed my car.

So maybe that one was on me. So two weeks you're down. It's a few weeks. You're down a couple days. And you you may I you know obviously athletes come all the way back after training. But I don't know that what specifics of it'll be enough. It'll be somewhere between almost nothing and nothing. And then at some point 20 years later it might just tear again for no reason whatsoever. But you'll be back. You'll be back on your own. I did mine in my 20s. I was back kickboxing and boxing and doing everything else for the rest of my life.

And then it just went again when I was, you know, 47 or something. So you'll be fine, James. And the downtime is next to nothing. Okay, awesome. And the downtime is next to nothing. All right, you'll be fine. Let's take ourselves an extended break. All right, let's do that. A super extended break. I want to thank you guys for supporting us through our Amazon link at AdamandDrDrewShow.com. Also subscribe.

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