The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #018: Naugles

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

Feb 16, 2013Adam and Drew discuss the culture of too much self-esteem and the now defunct Naugles fast food chain. They then take listener calls on Humira and long distance relationships.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This throwback episode also from February 2013, we discuss, wow, we're talking about this then, too much self-esteem. And we talk about an old food company called Nogles, stuff we get into. Then we take some listener calls, Humira, which is a more commonly used medication. You see it on TV all the time. No. Back then, it was sort of new. And long-distance relationships.

Enjoy this episode, Throwback from 2013, February 16th. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice, but to get it on mandate. Get it on and thank you so much for those of you who came out and saw us at Santa Barbara. We do appreciate that.

And for those of you who are listening to the show, and passing it along to friends, love ones, maybe old Lovelin fans who are now discovering it. This show is just crushing it in the ratings, and it's all because of you. And if you'd like to come out and see us do our little reunion tour, you can come out to Denver, Vegas, Salt Lake City, Redondo Beach, Napa. And this is all coming up basically beginning of March through middle of May. So tell you what, if you want to go to Adamcroll.com and you want to click on. on the Drew and Adam banner, whatever it is, a live date, live show banner. You can find out.

I can get into all the particulars. But if you're interested, just go there, click on, see when we're coming to a town near you. Yes, we do. We're V8, man. I've got one of those, yep. Yes. And Drew's a very busy man, so busy that he's actually working right now. It's true.

He's texting. You know, it's funny. Drew, tell me if you're this way or you're not or you don't know it. I have conversations with people all the time, like my wife, where she's like, returning someone's text and I'm talking to them. I have this when I'm talking to Mike August on the phone and I can. You can tell. Yeah.

Somewhere about minute seven of him going, uh-huh, uh-huh. And then I go like, when are we supposed to be in Salt Lake? Uh-huh. What's the name of the theater we're playing in Salt Lake? It's the, uh-huh. And I realize, okay, he's doing something. He's doing something. And I get into this and I realize people can pair it back exactly what.

you're saying. Yes, without thinking. Without, but they're not, they're not processing what they're saying. And so I always do this thing with my wife where I go, I don't mean to be rude. I don't, I'm not stupid because any, listen, you can say that to a drunk guy in a coma and he will parrot back what you just said. Yeah. I just go, I'll wait till you're done doing what you're doing. I'm not being a dick, but you're engaged in something other than this discussion and I'd like you to finish what you're doing and then we'll get into it. Drew, you probably have the ability,

and obviously it's dangerous because people drive and they think they can do this. You have the ability to do this and listen simultaneously, probably better than most people on the planet. Yes, I had to learn to do that way in my training, to be able to do two things once, had to be able to because you're doing something,

and I used to be way better at it than I am now. Like I used to be able to be solving a problem in my head focusing on a problem and giving directions to another nurse or something. You know what I mean? Now I've noticed I have to go back and forth

very, very quickly. And I fatigue after about a minute and a half. So I can do it about a minute and a half and then Adam will give me the all right, and you'll just stop talking is what you do.

You just stop. And you wait for me to finish. You don't tell me it's time to finish. You just stop. Well, we used to do that. I think we used to do that when you were having people fill out that stupid tests.

the narcissism that we're taking. Yes. Somehow I scored off the charts. Shocking. With the narcissism. Well, listen, I'll grant you this. You're a genius. Other people don't exist.

Right. But neither do I. So how big a narcissist can I be? You know what I'm saying? Tusha. Point taken. Let me ask you what kind of narcissist does this. I ruined a pair of pants that I wear quite a bit.

How'd you ruin them? Shit myself. Okay. No. You know how I ruined my pair of pants? I was indoors. I was like in an event, a venue somewhere. I don't know if I was in an arena.

I don't know if I was at one of the theaters I was playing or something like that. I was like I was at a big like carpeted like, I don't know if I said seamer or something like that. And I was chewing gum. Oh. And at a certain point, either I was being interviewed for a radio show or someone handed me a beer or something. But either way, I took the gum out of my mouth. and I looked around and it was nothing but carpet and displays or whatever. I couldn't, there was no trash can.

There was no, I didn't have a piece of tissue or anything. There was nothing I could find and there was no bathroom. I couldn't find it. I'm just holding this gum and somebody said, well, it's time to do your interview now or whatever it is. And I put the gum in my pants. I put raw gum in my pocket and then it ruined my pants. But I would not drop it on the ground. And for somebody, I hate when I step in someone's gum.

It fucking drives me nuts. And I wouldn't stick it to the other side of a table because I hate it when I'm in a diner and I put my hands there and I feel someone else's gum. That's the kind of narcissist that would also be incredibly peoed that there wasn't a trash can around. And do a half hour on it. No, I wasn't. I'm credibly peoed when I step on other people's shit. Yeah. Yeah. Well, as we've discussed many times, you have a perfect compass for right and wrong.

Yes. Yeah. And it's wrong to put other people in the way of the gum. Yes. You wouldn't do that. You wouldn't want somebody to do that to you, but you wouldn't do that to somebody else. You have a perfect equation there. There's absolute balance always. Well, I don't factor in. There's no mitigating circumstances. Right. That's right. No, well, this guy's dad was really tough on him so he can throw his gum where he wants.

That has nothing to do with my shoe and his gum. Right. You hold people to the same standard you hold yourself. Yeah. I hold myself to a slightly higher standard. No. That's the narcissist part. No, I don't expect.

I don't expect people to do some of the stuff that I do. That's the low self-esteem stuff. Yeah, that's a low self-esteem. Yeah. That's the kind of narcissist. Narcissus with low self-esteem. Yeah. That's what made me so attractive to the ladies coming up.

The narcissist with incredibly low self-esteem. That's why the ladies love me. Yeah. No, it's fun because, like, I used to, I used to, there's a couple of them in-house. Like Dawson likes to go out there and smoke, and then he likes to smoke and hawk loogies. On the blacktop where people either park or get out of their car or do whatever it is. She just likes to hawk oysters on the ground. There's a shrub that is three and a half feet away that you could easily hawk your loogie into.

But I walked out there and I noticed a sphere, a sphere of lugies, like, meaning he stood in the center. Like a solar system. Kind of like a rainbird, you know, like he just stood there. And I just looked down. It was like, it was a patio. You know, it was a little table out there. place where people to smoke. And I said, Dawson, do you think anyone wants to slide in your lugies on this blacktop?

And he said, I don't know. You know. And I said, well, hawk it into the shrub, Dawson. And he said, yeah, okay. Like, I never thought of that. I never thought that people wouldn't want to step in my sphere of luggy. But all right. Yeah, whatever.

You got, you're the boss. I guess so. That's that hypervigilance thing. You have awareness. A lot of people are just out of it with their automatic behavior. I want to call that hypervigilance. There's a sea of lugies, and it's four feet away from the front door. And he came in the other day, opened his truck door, got out of his truck.

Poo! Puck, hawked one right on the ground, walked right into the building. And I thought, well, I guess we'll have to re-train him. No, we'll just revisit that, which you have to do. I now realize, I don't know who I was talking to about this, but the revisit that conversation. conversation. Mike Lynch and I speak about this all the time. I guess we'll have to talk about that for a 33rd time. A weird thing to me. Yes. Because that, I feel like that's, to me, one of the things, for instance, if, you know, we just had a business meeting here. Yeah. Yeah. If I walked out of that business meeting and the boss man came up to me. Many of you. There was, let's say, a boss man.

Okay. Floating around. Yeah. And he said, should have that business meeting, your shirt's untucked, you're dressed like a homeless guy. We're talking to clients here. We're trying to impress clients. So I appreciate it in the future. You know, I'm not saying you have to wear a tuxedo to a business meeting, but put on a V-neck sweater.

So you look semi-professional. My greatest fear in life would be a second conversation with that man. about my appearance at a business meeting. That would be my greatest fear. I think that must because I have that same feeling. Right. And if there was another business meeting scheduled for two months later, I would fucking be in front of the mirror with the lint roller out.

And somehow that equates with shame and low self-esteem in some weird way, doesn't it? Whatever it is, I never want to get into that. I never want to leave another business meeting and have the boss man go, Adam, excuse me. Come in the office. Shut the door, please. Can you sit down? That's the greatest fear.

Yeah. Now, I don't feel like people have that fear anymore. Yeah. Because I do feel like I have the conversation. Mike, I don't know what we were talking about last night. Last night, we were recording some pre-read ads and people were shouting and talking outside of the door for the second time after being told to, shush. Can I tell you how many times this happens where people congregate in the kitchen? By the way, it's happened on this show, but it's happened on every set, every set I've ever been on. people sort of congregate in a certain place they start talking. At a certain point, it's getting picked up by the microphones when you're laying down a recording studio or you're doing a movie or you're doing a TV show.

At a certain point, someone walks up to them and goes, excuse me, people, we're filming here. So either take it outside or zip it. We're live. We're recording here. And then you go back and you sit down and you hear the same people talking again. And then you go, really less than three minutes. I say three minutes. I mean, 41 seconds.

You have to now walk back again and tell the same motherfuckers to shut up. It's like kids. It's exactly what kids do. Exactly what kids do. But now we're all kids. And now the bad guy is the guy who comes back for the second time and tells him to shut up. And by the way, if he raises his tone, if he slips in a, hey, I don't want to have to say, this again or I just told you, oh boy, that's verbal abuse now. My point is I don't want that guy

going back for the second time without saying, hey, how many times I got to tell you this? That's the message part. Now, what's interesting is that in the day, let's say in the 60s and 70s, the guy coming back would have been, hey, that's the man trying to get us down, man. We're going to, we're going to, our esteem is higher than that. But now I think, think it's everyone's so wounded that they're re-injured when you come back out and yell at them. Yeah. It's a weird shift. You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, I do know what you're talking about. Not to say that the 16th and 70th thing was good. It was bad. And it was still a defiance and sort of casting off the shackles of the man, whatever that was. But now it's like, hey, the man wounds me so I can't tolerate it being talked to that way. Isn't that weird? Yeah. There's a, I'm going to go off and.

sulk. No, I'm not going to sulk. I'm going to like hurt somebody myself or you. Well, now I have to get it out of me because I can't tolerate the shame. There's something, well, right? It's an aggression that follows it. There's an element of that. I think there's also an element of a, as we discuss, a sort of non-pecking order to society anymore. We've given up the, we've decided at some point we announced every time. child was the future. Everybody inside them had the ability to do. Find that cover with Fergie on it.

I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example. We told like every woman you have the power of the world at your fingertips because you're female. Let's take a look at Fergie on the cover of Glamour magazine. Okay, there it is. Can you read, can you enlarge it a little more? By the way, it's Ferg.

A Fergie's wearing high-heeled. It's not the Princess of York. This is Fergie from Black-Eye-P's. I'm sorry, Black-Epeas. She is as dolled up, as glammed up, and as hoared out as you can be. She's wearing all leg. She's wearing up the crotch, tight cycling, like, shorts that go way up the leg. I mean, right?

Yeah. She's wearing a very tight shirt, and it doesn't look like she's eaten in weeks, right? Right. Now, here's her quote from Glamour magazine as she stands there all hundred. 102 pounds of our airbrushed and multi-millionaire. Three hours in makeup, three hours in hair. Let's read the quote, Drew. I believe that every woman has the power to change the world.

We make things happen. All right. Does that mean anything? No. What about the fat chick who's working at the Nogles? Does she have the power to change the world? I think Del Taco Bottom. Every woman has the power to change the world because that's going to get,

It's going to get confusing if every single woman can change the world. Let me get a picture of a dog. The world is going to be changing on an almost daily basis if we give that power to every woman. So does Fergie believe that? Does Fergie really believe that? Or is she just fucking high? Or is she just blowing smoke up everyone's at? I mean, it doesn't mean anything.

That's the thing. It means nothing. There's noggles from the 70s. Yeah. Nogles. By the way, free orange juice with steak and egg. burrito. This is from the 70, so I don't know if they're still running that promotion, but if you can't find a knoggles, there's a chance you can get some free OJ.

See if you get a picture of the actual, the hut, the hut that the Nogles. I like that comedy. The greasiest. Oh. I like the, hey, listen, they're bringing the Nogles back. No. Seriously? They told me. They've tweeted Mr. Nogles told you. Ms. Nogles. Dush Nogles? Dush Nogles. The eldest son. Yes, douche-baggert Nogles Told me Ticos 1.50.

Wow. 30% of the kids in this country go home. Hold on. I want to see, yeah, I'll go to bed hungry. I want to see Fergie's quote one more time. Every woman. We make things happen. Every woman has she believe.

Has the power of change the world. Each woman. She doesn't say each woman, she says everyone. Every woman. If Fergie believes this, she's retarded. She doesn't believe. I believe that every woman has the power to change the world. And by the way, you're printing this shit, you fucking idiots.

You think she said that. Some publisher said, here's what we're going to put. Okay, we're going to sign off on this. Listen, you don't empower, hold on, quiet. You don't empower people by yelling at them to be empowered. They go out and educate themselves. They work hard. They achieve things.

don't explain that you just believe that every woman has the power to change the world. All right, this is the problem. Now, if every woman has the power to change the world, then I'm guessing every man has the power to change the world as well. Well, a little less than women. A little bit less. Right. They do build the skyscrapers.

They do put the men on the moon. How dare you? All right. The point is that. Because women didn't have the chance. They all. They would have done it. They're held back by man.

Yes. You got it. You got it out finally. Okay. You got straight. All right. Now, everyone can change the world. So how can I go in and yell at Chris Max Appata to do something when he has the power to change the world?

Or at least his girlfriend does. Do you know what I mean? Like, why should he listen to me? He's the future. Yeah. Every child is special. And he has a power to change the world. So why is he making coffee for me?

Well, that's the whole point. What kind? If you had the power to change your world and you decided you're going to make Adam a pot of coffee, wouldn't that be like squire? wandering your world-changing power day? Yeah. It's all right. So don't listen to me. Right.

There was a time when people, the message to children was you should be seen and not heard. Shut up and sit down. Work hard, maybe. Or as my, huh? Work hard, maybe the good things will happen to you. Remember that? Maybe. That's right.

There's always a maybe. If you work hard, perhaps things will work out. Now it's like things are going to work out if you work hard. And then they're confused when it does. There's a little saying that I'd like to apply to all kids that comes from the mouth of my Guatemalan nanny, which goes a little something like this. Gaiete, chiette. Shut up. Sit down.

Gaiete? Sit down. Sit down. I got that. Yeah. Yeah. She's a genius. She could change the world.

Listen, there's a lot of wisdom that comes out of her village, as I like to say. She loves that one. In your village, I would say to her every time. Get itte. Yeah, shut up and sit down. So we have a whole group of kids. Natalia's gotten that one, internalized that. We have a whole group of kids who, instead of shut up and sit down, we had to go to, as I said, had to go to their school.

And I had to watch them walk in a circle in a grass field for an hour and hold up signs yelling. Go Timmy. Your Shet and go. And then I have to pay them $100. Now, he's a hero. No running. We don't want any injuries. It's a walk for fitness.

Walking is something elderly people do when they're recovering from a hip surgery, right? Correct. Not six-year-olds. No. That is not for fitness. Walking is not for fitness. Walking for six-year-old is like containment. Yeah.

It's like we're going to help you to focus and contain. Walk for a while. That is not constant. Institute exercise for a six or seven-year-old. Yes? Yes. We've ruined our kids. No, no.

Dig. Dig. Dig. All right. Dig. So this whole thing you're going off on, because I want you to think about this. Really what you're talking about is the misappropriation of something, well, perhaps misappropriation, in your mind, misappropriation, because people could disagree. of a concept that I think we all agree is good

and the foundation of this, one of the founding principles of this country, which is equality. Mm-hmm. Right? And equality, as Abraham Lincoln saw it, was equality of opportunity, level playing field,

in the race of life. So everyone has equal, not everyone has equal ability, not everyone's the same height, now everyone has the same level of strength, but everyone starts on the same plane. But do with it what you will. Can I say this quickly?

Yeah, yeah. Equality should be a goal, but not an obsession. We have turned it into an obsession because it is mathematically impossible to have complete equality. It's mathematically impossible. Yes, but it's unobtainable. But yet we obsess on it. But haven't we confused equality of opportunity with Frank equalness? Yes.

You know what I'm saying? Yes. Like you and I are not equal in all things. No, but we weren't born equal in all things. And we're not supposed to be, but we're supposed to have the same laws, regulations, guidelines, access to education and whatever. So where we get weird is we had our equality was effed up by our circumstances of life. Our parents messed up our, you know, so how do we deal with that?

How do we level that part of the playing field? Well, that's where we get messed up. Okay. It's hard to go back and build a time machine and level things that are way in your rearview mirror. Or in the evolution of our biological systems even. Yes. So this obsession of we need to get Dr. Pudzley in his way back machine. Where the fuck his name was?

Sherman and his way back machine and go back and fix whatever was, you know, a picture. Japanese American internment camps. Just look up way back machine. Slavery and everything else. Let's stop staring into history's rearview mirror and trying to figure out ways to fix the shit that was broken. forward. 70 years ago.

Yeah. Let's move forward and look at ways to do it. There you go. I would like to. That is the way back machine. I would like to go back. P-Buddy, Mr. Peabody. Mr. Peabody and Sherman.

I would like to go back and fix my dad, and I'd like to go back and fix my mom, but I can't. Wayback machine. Come on. Are you listening or not? I'm too entertained by the Wayback Machine reference. Go ahead. I can't go back and fix my mom. I can't go back and fix my dad.

I can't fix Japanese internment or Japanese American internment camps and I can't fix World War II and what happened to the Jews. I cannot fix any of that. But I can't fix arguments I got into two weeks ago with my wife. But moving forward, we can. And the notion that basically politicians have decided that we all need to. stand in the way back machine and look at injustices that were perpetrated upon all of us. Some of them through our society, some of them through, you know, hey, there's the, there's the Negro counter and there's the white counter.

And then others are just, well, he comes from a broken family and his dad wasn't on the scene. And thus he got into trouble. And he started running with the wrong folks. And their mama couldn't. And that's why he went to juvenile detention. And the next, you know, he stabbed an elderly couple. but that's not his fault.

We need to stop looking in the wayback machine and going into the wayback machine and start going forward. All right, we have a problem in this community or that community. We have a problem with these folks or those folks. We have a problem with education. We have a problem. Whatever we have a problem with. Now, let's look forward and let's fix it.

Not interested politically, not interested in that. Everyone has to climb into the wayback machine and they can all tell the stories about. about how when the grandparents came here, poor, sharecroppers. Does this factor into the same thing we were talking about with the shaming if you tell people to behave a certain way? Right, because they go, in my history, I had parents that were divorced and didn't care or could have been abusive. Your parents were together and your dad was a doctor and they sent you to the finest schools and now you have all this going for yourself. and now you're going to come over here and take me who are basically damaged goods and shame me with your demands of being quiet for a second time in 45 fucking seconds.

And my point is this. Number one, I need you to be quiet. So I don't give a fuck how you absorb that message or what it feels like to you. I need you to be quiet. I'm not telling you this to shame you or to make you feel bad. I would love it if you could be quiet without having me walk over there and tell you to shut the fuck up for a second time. But you've left me no choice.

So number one, I do not want to engage in this. It is not comfortable for me to explain to you that you need to stop being late or that you need to shut up or that you need to dress better for meetings. I don't want to do this. You have decided that I get some joy or perverse pleasure from telling you this. Quite the contrary. The boss wants to do work, and he wants to do what the boss wants to do. He does not want you to call you in the office and tell you about your disheveled t-shirt. You understand?

Yeah. So that's number one. Don't make this about you. He would like this problem to go away. Number one, I would like you to stop talking. Number two, I don't give a fuck how that makes you feel. That's up to you. I'm just delivering the message that you need to stop talking.

You said something three times there that I think. is the sort of overriding message. It wasn't Candyman, was it? Because we're fucked if I did. No, you didn't say that. Don't make this about it. True, that's no idea what I'm talking about. Gary's laughing his ass off.

That's what I like about. There's a move. I think if you said Candy Man three times in mirror, Tyler Perry would show up with a steak night. I can kill you. It was a movie, Drew. Yeah? Yeah, sorry.

Which I know about it. You shouldn't know. You haven't even seen the shining guy. I did. Oh. Oh, yes. After you beat me enough, I went and that was back in the day of DVD. I didn't have a, even a DVD player.

I mean, a cassette player, I didn't have a DVD player yet. So it was long enough ago. Sorry. All right. I said something three times. Don't make this about you. Mm-hmm. That's really, that's the sort of the message for all of us.

Yeah. Don't make this about you. That's right. Because of you, now it's narcissistic now. Now it's about, everything's about you, and that's grandiose. Yeah. Who's going to change now? Well, listen.

And by the way, have you ever thought anybody, has anybody ever thought about this, like whether it's the teacher hates me or the boss is jealous? Right. Don't make it about you. The teacher sits there, has been sitting there for 20 years in the same shitty school. It gets the same 35, snot-nosed kids come through there times five or six periods. Really the time to single you out and hate you, huh? Yeah.

Because of what exactly? Your bad skin? Like, what, what is it that the teachers decided to pursue you? And by the way, this is somebody who's dedicated their life to try to help kids and probably has a special sort of in place in their heart for kids that have extra needs. There's nothing that would delight this teacher more than you getting straight A's on every test that you handed in. And you can say the same thing about your football coach, but there's nothing that would delight your football coach more than you being eligible.

to be a great run stopper or take it to the outside and go for pay. But he hates you. He hates you. God problem. He hates you. Right. Your tackles were perfect, but he always tells him shitty. We have decided that this is an actual thing, Drew.

It was never a thing before. We have decided that because of either the color your skin or your religion or your ethnicity or your sex that this person could just have it in for you or maybe it's just you whatever they don't even need a reason we've we have signed off on a bullshit premise we have signed off it's like in movie making everything is a bully victim relationship every time someone holds up a gun it makes a click sound like it makes a shh sound like that motion where I'm holding the gun and I go oh yeah well how would you like it if I took your head? off and I slid it under your chin and makes it chink.

Like, what's it doing? Loading itself now? Because I'm putting it under your chin. I didn't pull the hammer back. I'm just moving guns doesn't make a noise. But, look, somebody decided in Hollywood that there was a noise associated with me now lifting the gun. Like, I could be holding the gun next to me and I'd go, oh, yeah, don't take another step. And I'd lift it up to my shoulder and make it chichunk sound. But I didn't do anything. I didn't pump it.

I didn't pull anything. somebody decided that in Hollywood and now it is. Somebody decided that people could just not like you and just because of whatever, the color of your skin or who you hung with or how you dressed or whatever, or had it in for you just because it in and everyone signed off on it and we all move forward. It's a bully victim thing. Every relationship is a bully victim. That's right.

Max Spada. Oh, and also like when people hang up on a phone, the dial turn just immediately comes back. And that never happens. That never happens. Also, the people don't know they were hung up on. Hello? Hello? Hello?

Well, you just called the person a fucking douchebag. So they hung up on you. I'm always prepared for when people hang up on me because I've said something to that. But I'm never confused. Hello? No, you've never talked to my wife. Hello? You don't have a conversation.

She'll just hang up all of a sudden. How many times can you hear a dial tone and think someone is still there? Hello? Dial tone. Hello? Yeah. Your wife? She hangs up?

Hangs up. Wait a minute. So annoying. I've heard you on the phone. Let me explain what every single phone call with Dr. Drew on the road in the back of the town car on the way to the airport sounds like when he calls his wife. Somewhere around minute three, Drew goes into rapid up mode. Here's how you know. All right.

We'll do. We'll do. We'll do. Okay. All righty then. Well, then we'll see you then. We'll do. We'll do.

By the way, if you're talking to someone, somewhere around the 85th time, you hear the term will do. That means they want off. Okay. All right then. Well, then we'll see it. We'll do. What I always enjoy is the reboot. Yeah, there's always a reboot in there.

The reboot. Really? She wants to go to dinner? It's a reboot. It's like, hold on. We'll do. We'll do. Uh, no, I don't know where her retainer is.

Did you talk to Delia? So she doesn't. Okay. We'll do. We'll do. We'll do. I always want to grab the phone out of your hand and go, it's the person dying to get off the fucking phone with you.

You just let them off their phone, put them out of their misery, and let them off the phone. Unless we get into stuff that makes her uncomfortable, then it's all of a sudden, are you listening to me? Are you? Really? All right. Should we take a quick break?

Sure. All right. We got your phone calls line up. Drew, what do you like up there? Medical detours. Quix, what you're going to be constantly upset with the girl? I like them all. Dating and living with a girl.

First two are quick. He really loves. Just got offered up a job. I'm overseas. Oh, man. First two are quick and easy. All right. All right.

We'll do that. We'll go line for it. Another thing that was brought up that I always complain about. Before you do, I'm sure this will stay with you. Just a quick thing. You know, people that want to, people who are very kind about supporting your and my podcast. But this one, this podcast requires a separate move, which you have to go to the Adam Andrews site at Adamcuroa.com and then click through on Amazon to support this one.

I'm not sure everyone's getting that. So I just want to make sure that people that like this. show, please do support this show. So go ahead. I'm sorry. I complained about the sort of fake movie noises, and I was reminded by Chris Max Patta, one that I always, I've always complained about, which is the stadium lights turning on. Chunk. Yeah. Yeah. I heard those at the Super Bowl, didn't you? Yeah. Everyone looked up and went, huh? When the lights went off, because they were chunk, chunk, chunk, chunk. And I said, there's no sound of lights turning on at a stadium. And by the way,

They don't turn on like that. They fade up. Yeah. And there's no chunk to them. But it's now documented that at least when they turn off at the stadium, there's no chunk. But that is an empty stadium. Be fair. Empty stadium is that huge.

Yeah, empty. Right. That's the other thing that Hollywood signed off on about 20 years ago. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how good the director is, how good the writers. If you're turning lights on, now it doesn't do it with reading lamps. There should be some overzealous Foley guy who's just like, I want the big chunk sound in there,

like turns on the reading line, chung, turns on the bathroom light, chung. And what would the sound even be of? I mean, what is that? I don't, it's unclear because the switch itself doesn't really make a sound. I'm not sure there's a switch. It's probably like a board. You probably push a button, yeah.

Right. And then the light itself is just electricity going to, multiple light bulbs, which, as we all know, whether you're in the kitchen and it's one light bulb or you're in a stadium and it's 100 light bulbs, there's no sound to a filament heating up. We have to, it would be fascinated to find out where it came from. I bet it's like throwing one of those Frankenstein switches, you know, those levers. Probably one time it was on that thing. Yeah.

There must be some guy who's like the Foley guy that everyone looks up to, like, that's the dude who came up with the chunk sound when they turned on stadium lines. You know, the dude he's talking to? That's the guy who made the gun noise sound whenever you'd move a gun. But you have to move it with hostility. Aggression. Yeah. The gun makes no, it makes no noise.

If I pull my gun out and hand it to you, that doesn't make noise. Like if you go, hey, drop your guns. Everyone, take your guns out, drop your guns. You pull your gun out and drop them. It doesn't make any sound. Even if I throw you a gun, it doesn't make a sound. But if I've threatened you with it, if I lift it up to your temple, now it makes a gun sound. But think about it, movies do have.

have a throw and catch sound for a gun. Well, yeah. And they do have a drop sound. Two different sounds. You know what I'm saying? No. And nobody knows what you're saying. Yeah, I don't know what else you're saying.

Yes, of course, there's a sound. If you're a movie and somebody dropped a shotgun, it made no sound. You're right. That would be distracted. Yeah, it has a catch sound. It has a drop sound. But that has a, that lives in nature. A little bit.

Yeah, you wouldn't hear it, though, probably in real life. I'm saying they amplify that, too. Well, they amplify car screeching. Yeah, true. Quiet down. I think you're not going anywhere with this. You're right. All right.

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Much more. For showtimes, press nothing. They're free 24-7. That is so a fetch. On Pluto TV, stream now, pay never. All right, so what's going on with you, John? You're dating a girl. Well, first of all, where are you going that you might save a year or 20 years? Are you military? No, it's not military. It's for the government. I can't say which section of government. He's a double-o. He's like some sort of covert operator. Incredible. And I just finished with the whole 18-month interview process and got offered about three weeks ago. And I live here in L.A. and Brentwood with my girlfriend, who's amazing.

Nice. Now, listen, I'm going to talk about John as though we're not talking about him. But I've treated a bunch of CIA guys. And strangely enough, they all sound like this one. They're not, they're not, Sean Connery. Yeah, well. They're nondescript, low-key. That helps not to have a personality in that industry.

They're not great song and dance men. Well, but they just blend in. Yeah. See, Tommy Tune wouldn't blend in. Yeah. It's too tall. He's wearing that top hat. Tommy Tune.

It's a great song and dance man. Anyway, so how long are you with a girlfriend? See, Gary doesn't know who Tommy Tune is, and now you're even. I know. There is. Hold on now. Oh, Jesus. All right.

I've been with her for about three years now. Wow. And so is the question, do we break up or does she come with me? Can't she come with you? No, she couldn't. Oh, my gosh. Does she know you're facing this? Or will you just disappear one day?

No, I have told her, and she knows I'm contemplating it. And, you know, especially after that last go-round, you guys were just talking about narcissism and everything. I don't know. I mean, I feel like it's, it's, I'm currently a financial consultant, and it pays really well, but I'll be honest, it bores the living fuck out of me. And it's just all of something I wanted to do, kind of like my dream job. And I don't know, you know, I don't know what you do. I feel like it's very, it's, it's selfish of me almost. Well, let me ask this. What's your, what's your girl they do? Does she have a career? Yeah. What's she do?

She works for Universal, actually. She's a marketer. So she's got a career. You have a career. You want to chase your dreams. How far out from, you know, kids in marriage would you say? You would be if you stayed here and did your financial work? Two years.

Two years. Do you have any control over how long you stay over there? Or once you're in, it's just you're in and it's going to be what it's going to be? Yeah. I think the latter. You have no control. Are you willing to sacrifice? I mean, is it, listen.

The problem is, is he's not young, he's not old. Right. He's right in between. They have something that's working. That's pretty rare in this town. But this is his dream. On the other hand, it's his dream. And I'm going to say this, John.

If you, let me put him on hold. Once people start. describing things in terms of this is my dream or you've destroyed my life or whatever it is, then the burden on whatever the relationship is or was is so powerful. Because it's resentment. You're going to never overcome it. Right. You're going to resent the relationship.

If you say, oh, going overseas and doing this kind of covert work for the military or for the government, that's something I've always thought about doing, then it can overcome that. That's right. But saying, this is my dream. dream and now she is now the one standing between you and your dream and that's never going to be a good thing in any form of relationship so now because it's your dream you must go you'll probably be miserable and be back in 18 months right begging for her back right but you've called it your dream if you call it a hobby or a pursuit or something you've always thought about that's something else but if you're going to refer to it as your dream then you have to get on that plane these guys

hire a bunch of financial guys. Oh, the FBI. Financial guys. Yeah, because they've got to look into that money laundering. They just have to guys who can follow the sense. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, John, so I agree with Adam, but I could not make that decision for you or even advise you on.

It's a very personal decision. Nemo? 33, Baltimore. Yeah, hey, can you guys hear me? Yeah, it says you have a question about Humira. Do you have rheumatoid arthritis? notice? No, Crohn's. Crohn's. Which is the other, yeah.

It's one of the main reasons, like, I'm questioning it. Well, it's a new indication for Crohn's, and it works quite well. New medication. No, that's not new medication. For Crohn's, it's a new indication, right. Indication, I don't know what that means. Meaning it's appropriate to use it for, that's indicated for that illness. It's now in a new use. It's a new use for Crohn's disease. Yeah, and it works quite well, and you're probably concerned about some of the

scarier risk factors associate with it, right? Yeah, you know. It seems like I've seen a lot of commercials for that stuff lately. Yeah, it's most, these are good. That whole class is very good. I mean, it really is revolutionized

treatment of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis, like Crohn's. Crohn's is a disease where your immune system attacks your gut, all, mostly the small and large bowel, but it can attack from your mouth to your anus. It feels like when someone says, I hate your guts. This is like you hate your guts.

This is you, yeah. You hate your own guts. Crohn's is you hating your guts. And in the old days, In the old days, it got, listen to this, before we could control it, it would get so inflamed that the bowel would adhere to the wall

of the abdomen and break through to the surface. Like the bowel was abscessing out of itself. It's just awful. It's just awful illness. It's awesome. And so people get fistula, into their back, into their, it was just horrific.

Wait a minute, Drew. In the old days, you say. We had Eastern medicine. What about the wisdom of the Orient? The Orient could take care of it, no problem. I don't get it because the wisdom of the Orient goes back like 2,000 years. You're only talking about 100, 150 years. 20.

20 years. Well, we'll have the wisdom of the Orient. Well, we didn't, the man didn't let us apply. The man had given us the right herbs. Yeah, could have cured it. Yeah, could have cured it with herbs. Yeah. And now you've got to go big pharma.

Now you've got to go to the human, expensive drug. So sad. Making the man rich. Yeah. Hey, Nemo. You're in Baltimore. How about a little wisdom of the Orient? You know what I mean?

Well, you know, my girls kind of go on that route, like, diet and that kind of thing. That's all well and good, but my doctor feels like it's at the stage right now where it's herbal. But he's recommending this drug. Yeah, Nimo, it's not well and good. Unfortunately, your girlfriend's never seen full-blown crones when people's bowels are exploding out of their abdominal wall. And that's how it used to be when people had nothing but herbs. Nemo, we live in a very toxic environment. You understand?

The environment is, Drew, I'm listening. That phone you're holding? Yes, toxic. The rubber on the outside of that phone? That's vulcanized rubber. That's toxic. You understand? Yes.

That sweater you're wearing has rayon in it. That's toxic. You understand? The glasses you're wearing. That is plastic in it. Toxic. The microphone you're speaking into, that has a foam cover on it. Toxic.

Do you understand? Man, your body is a sponge, okay? Okay. Okay. And it absorbed, look, if you took a sponge and you put it into a sink of dirty water, what would it do? It would absorb all the dirty water. It would absorb the dirty water. Okay.

Your body's a sponge. This is your sink, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. What would a tampon do if you dipped it in punch?

It would absorb the punch. Okay. Okay. You are a tampon. You understand? You live in a punch bowl. I'm a tampon? With a sherbert thing floating in it, okay?

But here's the thing. Your body is a sponge, okay? You live in a toxic environment, okay? You soak up the top of this. This is a bamboo wood grain, but that's not actually bamboo, okay? I mean, the man created this. This is plastic. This is not natural.

This is not to make chemicals for a living, okay? You're putting your hands on this. If you put your hand in acid, you would feel that, right? What's an acid? Oh, is that thing that burns, a liquid that burns. It would burn you. Acid is a liquid that burns. No, you absorb that, okay?

When you touch... I'm going to start with people. People don't even know what an acid is. It's a sponge, and you absorb your environment, and we live amongst toxins. Okay. Now, the only way to, now, when you ring that sponge, well, then that dirty sink water comes out of it, right? What if you were to rinse that sponge under some clean mountain water? Okay. Well, that's exactly what we're talking about with these enumous. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. So, well, here's the deal. But here's what kills me. Here's what kills me. When I ask people just, okay, first of all, It kills me.

You can laugh about it. I actually have driven the distraction by it. Yes, people, you ask me what? I'll say like, okay, what's an asset? Describe acid to me even. They have no training. Do you understand what I'm acid is? I'm a sponge.

I'm not an acidologist. So I'll say, just draw me the chemical formula. Just the chemical formula of atoxin. And then, and show me the stoichiomic equation. I could, but I ate red meat this week. And I'm still kind of riding that downward. You know, you spike. You know, if you.

eat like you live with this for 10 years you eat a processed food you have that spike that high you feel god when you you know when you eat brisket but then you start to bottom out i could draw you that molecule but i'm on a red meat bottom i'm a super you know what i mean i've hit the bottom of my red meat you know where i am if red meat if it was a canyon i would be kayaking in the bottom of it right now he's like portlandia okay right right I don't. I've never seen it. Oh, my God. Okay, Nemo, let's get to the question.

So, Nemo, so you're worried about lymphoma, right? That's the big, horrible side effect on Humera, right? It is? Yeah. Yeah. It's exceedingly rare. Yes, you have to decide with your doctor if it's worth the risk. It's something that does happen, but it's so rare. And I've got many, many patients on Humera whose lives have been, the trajectory of their illnesses have been completely changed.

You get cancer from Humera? There's some concern about that. It's not actually proven yet, but it's concerned. But it's one of these. It's better than whatever. Better than your bowel splitting open through your abdominal wall. And better than taking prednisone, which was the old thing for, you know, I'm sure you're on something like that.

Now you're on acacol and are you on acetyl and prednisone? Asa call. Pentassau rather. Who would name ass? All right. Yeah, pentasa. That's all so typical stuff for Crohn's. Is it control with the patasa?

Not really. know, I mean, I'm not suffering, but it just sort of keeps it at bay. Like, I can always sort of feel. Yeah, so maybe the Humera can go for a while and get it, you know, remission and then you go back off it, possibly. Nemo, how about one of those magnets you put between your box spring and your mattress? You know, hold on a second. Magnet on your wrist. Oh, your wrist.

Okay. Picture a circuit board. I do know what my skin crawl when you do this stuff. Picture a circuit board. Your body is a circuit board, all right? Okay. It's electronic. Your brain is a giant battery.

How does it communicate? It's a communicate through electricity. Okay, now what if something was to interrupt that circuit board? What if I took coffee and I dumped it all over that circuit board? Okay. Okay, because that's what you are. You're a sponge attached to a circuit. You're a circuit sponge.

Okay. What if we took that circuit board and we threw it into that dirty sink water with all those Disaster blow up. All right. Sparks. What this magnetic, what this magnetic hernia trust does for me is it pulls. You know how, when I take a magnet, okay, let's say there's iron shavings everywhere, everywhere.

And I take this magnet and I put it in the middle of the iron shay. Well, it's all drawn to it, isn't it? What's it do? It comes to, it pulls it to the magnet. So instead of having these shavings everywhere. When I put on my magnetic truss, I am pulling all of the circuits to the core. Oh, to your chakra, your chakra. My chakra.

It's my core. Okay. And it pulls the toxins. And it pulls you're just, oh, you're just one circuit board of electricity. And again, if a raccoon urinated on your circuit board, what would it do? You'd chore it out, wouldn't you? Okay. That's all it is.

Enough sense. That's why you need the magnetic bracelet. I said pulse. I blame all this on the lack of science education. I really do. Nobody is trained in science anymore or basic biology. Oh. I mean nobody.

We've given up on geography and science and everything and decided that it's all about arts. Like there's literally billboards all over Los Angeles. One with our mayor, Tony Valar, explaining that it was the arts and the education that, you know, opened his mind. First off, shop class infinitely more important to your mind than learning to play the tuba for a couple semesters. I think the way I think because I think mechanically, I have a brain where I engineer things in my mind and I lay things out in my mind that I would have never got from doing interpretive dance when I was in the night. ninth grade at fucking all. Find this comical billboard with the guy. Oh, by the way, they're all, it's all, it's all we do is jack ourselves off over the arts.

Arts are wildly unimportant to kids. They just, they make no, they have no bearing. Sports, sports, number one. Sports is number one. Yeah, you got to dream big. But what's the, what is it? What's, first off. See, I love the arts, though.

I do. All right. Let the pros handle it then. Yeah, but that starts a job. Let me see what his one says. We've got to figure it out. I think great society's foster great art. You know what I mean?

But they do it. We don't need the kids. I don't need to turn my kids on to art. They will either be, they will want to dance. They will be musically inclined or they won't. I don't need to force that upon them. Now, what you do need to force upon them is organization, Sports.

Piano lessons. How to use your brain. It's a little bit important in pushing them through. If they want to, they'll do it. All right. Your kids took the piano. And he played professionally? One's a music school.

Yeah, but he's not going to be professional pianists. Probably not. Okay. So look, did it help them with discipline? Yes. You could have had somebody have them do push-ups two hours a day, and they would have been wildly disciplined as well. It's not hurting them.

It's not hurting them, but it doesn't. There's all this data about GM, helping certain language development skills and stuff. It's there. I mean, it's just is. Look, it's, look. I don't disagree with you. I get what you're saying.

It's nonstop talk about the arts. Zero talk about shop class. How about science? Or science. People talk about engineering. That's Matt. How about science? How the fucking world operates?

How it actually works. It's not, it's not interested. It's not storytelling. But Drew, what about being in our town? Don't you think, I don't mean Los Angeles. I mean, being in a play. Glassmanagerie. Yeah.

All right. Where is that fucking picture? Let me go back to you. Nemo, the other thing about you, you'll probably be able to get off the Humera, which my understanding is, at least, I'm not sure this is true, but my understanding is the real risk in people that are in humorous for time, which is like the rheumatoid arthritis patients. So I say you just you work with your doctor to work out what's best for you. All right. Now we'll try to find the inflate, just just what's it say? It says dream big and then it says arts education or something.

Just tell me what it says, Mike. Arts education fuels creative thinking. Right. A picture of a young Virogosa. You were ceramics. Viragosov failed the bar four times and then decided it was too hard and hung it up. Oh, he didn't? He didn't become a lawyer.

No, he didn't fail it four times and then pass it. He just failed it four times. Have you heard the man speak, Drew? Not late. Not really. He sounds like a guy with a learning disability attempting to read a teleprompter after a on copier toner. God.

He's an imbecile. He sounds like an idiot. I mean, he just, you know, he does that, oh, where's, there's, there's, there's, there's, this individual is dangerous. He is, he is, he has, he has, he has, he has, he has, he has, he has, he has, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, a justification for the taking of an innocent line. What the fuck are you saying, idiot? Give us some fucking facts or something we don't know.

Yes, he killed three people. Yes, he did it in cold blood. We understand he didn't sneak up on him, give him a syringe, or take them to a chamber to get, you know, gas to death. We understand. He shot people. Yes. I know.

It's not justifiable. You're going to bring him to justice. He's a complete fucking imbecile. So whatever he did should be the opposite of whatever your kids do. And let's talk about shop. I agree on my behalf. And we'll talk about science. Yes, on my behalf.

But do you ever hear about science? Do you ever hear about shop? Or is it all just about how somehow taking interpretive dance turns on your brain? And let me ask you this, Drew. Dig. I don't need the mayor of Los Angeles to be creative. I need them to be good with numbers and smart and realistic, not creative. Yeah, I don't want that.

I want that in a cruise director. Right. I don't want that a fucking guy who's running the seventh largest economy in the world. So what is this whole emphasis on creativity? What about, don't we want a group as a society? Don't we want people who know numbers, no science, no math, no engineering, no building? Do you want everyone being creative and doing what? Waiting tables?

dirt clods, throwing dirt clouds, like you were trained. Yeah. All right, medical detox with Paul. Paul. Paul. Hello. What's going on? Yeah, hey, Adam and Drew big fans.

My brother's going to flip out when he hears me on the podcast. I'm a CADC student in my final practicum. Yeah. And lately, I have a got a lot of calls. That's a, it's a chemical dependency counselor. No. Yes. And?

And what about, lately, I don't know. What about interpretive dance? I mean, then we need more of those people? I've been getting a lot of calls from people saying that they need to know they need to come in for treatment, and they've been reporting this huge amount of use, and so it's very easily like, okay, go to detox, okay, go to detox, and it's been really frequent. I'm wondering at what threshold do I say, and is it safe to say, well, you can come on in for an assessment.

We'll take a look at you this and that because the call that I've been getting the past couple days have been, I drink a handle a day, I drink a pint a day, and that's just very obviously, okay, go to detox. What's a handle? It's those bottles that are like the gas. Oh, they call them a handle. Yeah, they call them handles. I got a handle on that. Yeah.

You get a handle on the angria. Yeah. That could be coming. Yeah, listen, any of them, you can come in for an assessment as long as they don't stop. And as you know, whatever they tell you is a distortion anyway. Right. So with alcohol, as you well, no, that's the one withdrawal that can be fatal very easily and should be medically.

even if it's just a bottle of wine today. Sometimes people can have... Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry, Adam. People can have significant withdrawal with relatively moderate consumption. Even red wine? Even red wine. Even like a Pino noir?

Like a fine Pino, yes. A bottle of day, you're getting into it. So I'm not sure, you know, be... That's spread out over a whole sports center. You know what I mean? They're chugging it in the kitchen. Circumstpect, all about any consumption. But, you know, if they're sort of on the fence...

about their motivation. Tell them not to stop and come in for an assessment. All right. Last call. Reno. This is Chris from Reno. I'm going to beat the Nugget, so check that out soon. In Reno, not in Las Vegas. You're being in Reno?

I think so. That's how it works. Yeah. Chris? Hey, what's up? What's up? Hey, so a friend of mine, like more co-worker than friend, he got fired today from his job, and he posted on Facebook that he was going to kill him.

himself and I'm just wondering like kind of like what I should do about it and if it's really my responsibility to like step in and do something where did he get fired from at 19 oh he's not 19 he's like 25 oh but still yeah

did he have a good job um it was okay it was kind of uh we work at a museum here so um museum he didn't get canned from knogles because that's where you kill yourself.

All right. Well, look, he's depressed. No, no, no, no. You got to take it seriously. You take it very seriously. If you have a suicide assessment team locally, you call them. If you don't have that, you call the cops. You report it, give the address.

You do not F around with this. Look, the thing about... If you can't do any of that, you get somebody in the home with it immediately. Threatening suicide is like going to an airport and saying I have a bomb. It's like, I don't care if you're fucking around or not. Yeah. We are obligated to act upon it as a society. Not just a society.

I just ethically, we just say, you got to take it. It's a medical emergency. It's the same thing as saying I'm having chest pain and I can't breathe. Right. So that's it. And if you're fucking around, you're fucking around. But you will learn that just like saying I have a bomb at airport. A fire in a movie theater or something.

That's right. Mm-hmm. All right, Dr. Drew. Yeah. Really, stellar work, as per usual. I'm proud of you, man. A lot of guts to show your face around here. This Adam Parola for Dr. Drew, Mike Lynch, Chris Max Pada, and Gary Hifthard saying, Mahalo.

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