The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #043: Grit

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

May 15, 2013Adam and Drew open the show talking about grit and how badly they want their kids to have that quality over almost any other. The discussion then turns to parents and the culture of not wanting to hunker down and care for your kids even if you have to do it in a bare bones fashion. Later they take calls including an epileptic man who only has seizures during sex.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This now is a few days later, 2013, this throwback episode, we open the show talking about grit and badly we want our kids to have that quality, almost any other. And boy, that is becoming ordinary misery, I call it now, is what builds grit. Then we talk about parents and the culture of not wanting to take care of your kids, even when you have to do it in a bare-bones fashion. It's interesting, interesting conversation. And then we take a call about an epileptic man who has seizures during sex, which does happen. enjoy this throwback episode from May 2013. Get it on.

Good to see you there, Dr. Drew. It's good to see you, sir. What's happening? Well, I was just watching a little John Stossel the other week. Yeah. And he's a guy I like. I like Stossel because he's got a crazy name. Brass Taxi.

Oh, yeah. John's a nutty name. Oh, no, I sawsel. Okay, I got it. You know, he's just get your shit together. Do your thing, you know, constantly kind of comparing. you know, basically what the private sector can do for 10 grand a student versus what the city does for 15 grand a student and how much better the test scores are when you give it to the private sector. And then he gets into it with all the people from the teacher's unions.

And he just kept saying, hey, take a look at the test. And they go, hey, man, I look into a student's eyes and I can tell where they're learning. I wish people would have looked into my eyes, by the way, when I was failing every fucking class. I wish Mr. Gregory. You never looked up. You never looked at the ground constantly. It was true. But I wish Mr. Gregory would have looked me in the eye when we were talking about before he failed me for driver's ed and known that I knew a lot about cars and that I was inherently a good driver and had good hand-eye coordination. I wish he would have looked me in the eye instead of just looked at my grades and test scores, which earned me the failure.

But I like Stossel, and he was talking about grit. He said, this country's lost its grit. Ooh. We used to have, you know, John Wayne and all the people that settled the West and all that stuff. Used to be, there was a word, grit. We used it a lot. That guy's got grit. You need grit.

One of the... We just knocked it down to it. Right, right. Yeah, the... Which is the pussy version of it, grit. Yeah, well, it is just something you're born with. Grit's something you're born with. earned. So we go, oh, that guy's got it.

She's got it. Look at those eyes. But that's just something. That's just how you're sort of laid out. That's more about bones than it is about hard work. Yeah, it really is. You're right. So the grit part, and if you think about it, there's nothing, I've said this a million times. There's nothing I would want more for my kids than them to have a healthy dose. of grit. I want them to be

tough. I want to be resilient. Yeah. And I want them to go after things. You know. Well, your girl's got grit. Yeah. She's got great. She's got great. I saw her I saw your wife posted a Facebook picture of her putting her hand in your face. Talk to the hand. Stop talking.

Yeah. She wants me to stop talking. She's terrible. She's got grit. My boy doesn't have much grit and I worry because I want kids to be a little bit tough. I want to be resilient. I wants this nation to be that way. I think we're losing our grip on grit. Powerful.

I'm speechless. I kind of feel like there is, I look at the kids my kids are competing with, and they're pretty, they're scrappy, if not gritty. Wow. You know, and hang on. But there's a whole group left behind that just aren't even like in the running. They're competing. They just don't even get out of, they don't get into it.

Yeah. That part's lost. It's more than, I'm afraid. Well, yeah, no, I know what you're saying. There's a mentality because I come from this mentality, this, you know, this notion that we're going to dig ourselves out of whatever welfare state people are in by dumping off more money in their lap. One day, people are going to look back at this. this time. I mean, there will be a time when we understand psychology, sociology, and how the brain functions. We accept our understanding of it. Well, sorry, we'll accept. We understand it now.

We won't accept it. Yeah. There will be a time when we accept this. There was a time, as I said, years ago in the 70s when this was a legitimate decree, which is you take a young, boy and a young girl. You put a cap gun, a pop gun down, you put a dolly down, and you step back. Yeah. That little boy's going to go for the dolly and that little girl's probably going to go for the pop gun. Hey man. How do you? How do you? I can't even do it because I'll tell you what happened to us. When our kids were first trip to the toy store, they're barely toddlers, barely able to walk. We went to a toy store. And we tried to encourage in different directions in non-sexual stereotyped directions. Right. My daughter would not leave, would not leave the tiaras and boas. And my kids, my sons, would not leave the trains and the hammers.

Right. Could not pull them over to the fuzzier stuff. And the same with my daughter. I could not bring her over. Yeah, I can't get my boy. I have a boy and a girl. They're twins. I can't get her to stop with the dress up and stop with the mascara and stop with the dolly.

Hey, man. She was exposed to your guys. Try to change a kid's behavior. It's impossible. If they have a proclivity, it's really hard to change it. Exposed to. Like, Dad's obsession with choo-choo trains. And earth-movers.

And earth-movers. Like, all Sonny ever saw was dad walking through the house in his underpants in a hurry. There was no discussion of choo-chew trains or backhose, you know. And certainly, you know, mild obsession with Legos. But not a big. You know, I built some forts out of Legos. But this notion. of this constant notion that we're force feeding.

You know, my son. Not a force feeding that somehow by being exposed the moment their eyes open, who, sexual identity is in them now because they are exposed in the environment. Why is that the only thing in the environment that does that? You can't do that with anything else. Not even eating. You can't even keep somebody to eat that way. Well, that's the whole thing.

I mean, there's all this stuff where it's like, we have to teach them how to be tolerant. We have to teach them how not to bully. We do. We don't teach. Okay, okay, we have to teach, but we have to teach. So, why aren't we teaching? How come when we just step back, Sunny Dives for the train and Natalia dives for the Tierra? That's alliteration, man. Nice. Thank you.

So, this was a boneheaded... Wait, wait, what was? This notion. Oh, yeah, yeah. I never bought into it because I've always said, I'll do you one better on the teaching. the boys to play with the trains and the pop guns and teaching the girls to dress up and that how'd that start who decided on that the man queen elizabeth that's my point is is how do we get where we are you know people do that all the time where they go how come the guys build the bridges and the women do the teaching or whatever it is and i go people argue how do we get where we are for sake of polemic let me say they would argue that a group grab power early, like maybe back in the... How they'd grab power.

You know, I mean, I, look, guys are attracted to building bridges more so than women. Fine. Women are attracted to, I don't know what, more so than men. I'm willing to accept that. On average. Of course. So, this notion that they were trying to pass this around as some sort of scientific fact in 1972 or 1969 or 1974, we look back on this as total insanity.

They never apologized. The people who were pushing this agenda never go, gee, I guess I was wrong. By the way, they're on to their next semi-retarded notion that will hold no water scientifically from a sociological standpoint or any other. By any measurement, it's a zero. There's no way. But they're on to the next one. That's the way they roll.

They never look back. They don't have a rearview mirror that says I was wrong. Now we've entered this thing where we've decided that the best way to pull people out of poverty is to cut them a check. We're going to look back on this and go, no wonder that wasn't a highly effective way of approaching life and solving this problem. because I come from this. I come from sit around and wait for a check. And what happens is you get... You sit around and wait for a check?

You get pulled into an invisible system. I mean, it's an invisible gill net that gets tossed over your entire family. Just you don't understand that there's anything outside of this. Success, college, vacations, paychecks. That's for other people. Dig. So in the economic system of capital, It's the invisible hand.

So maybe in the system of welfare, it's the invisible band. It bans. Yes, it bans. It bans. It binds. Yeah. It's a lap band of poverty, dude. Powerful, man.

So I'm just saying I want my kid to have a little grit. And I want this nation to get a little grit. And that's not a popular thing to say right now. We're getting there. Sounds too masculine to be accepted. I'm just saying when I learn that, you know, you hear these things. We live in a city where one third of the people are getting some sort of assistance. A third.

When it gets to a half, guess what happens then? They get more. They can't pay for it. They can't pay for it. Right. But where are we going? Is it, where's the chart? How's it working?

What's going on? I can't figure this out. It's sad that it's been politicized. I'm not trying to politicize anything. I'm trying to help people. Well, there's a whole philosophy that would say that's the way to go, right? I mean, you're saying, what's happening, what's happening? Well, that's where they want it to go.

I understand. I understand that. But here's my point. When you are saying to people, hey, get you shoo. it together. You need to feed your own kids. You need to feed them breakfast. You need to feed them breakfast. And I'll tell you why you need to feed them breakfast. Not because I don't have 82 cents a day to give you to feed your kid for you. That's not what this is about. Everyone's going to point their finger at me and say, I have enough money and I'm cruel and I don't like kids and I don't like

your kids. Oh, no, quite the contrary. First things first. This is your idea of helping. I want your kid to understand that mama and possibly daddy are taking care of them. I don't want them pushed into the system at such an early formidable age. Do you know what I'm saying? I want them to know that mama. Now, here's the message I want, and this is fine. Times are tough. Mama's working two jobs.

Mama don't have a lot of money. But Mama is staying up late or getting up early and she bought herself a big old sack of oatmeal and she's going to make sure that this kid gets something in his belly before he leaves the house. And the notion that people can't afford oatmeal, I think you can buy a pillowcase of oatmeal for $2. And if you ever do oatmeal up, it's you need a flame. You're writing this down? Water. You need an open flame.

You need a hose. Any water source will work. Literally, you can get it from the toilet. Stream toilet. Okay. You get water. And he's writing it down. He's writing it down.

Then if you take oatmeal and you put it in a cup. We need a cup then. Well, you could do it in your hand. But the point is, is a full cup of oatmeal. Once you cook that up, it's like too much for one serving. It's like half a cup of oatmeal. You'll find me how much a generic. I don't want the highfalutin, and I still can't figure it out, steel cut.

Sounds exciting. Semi-homorotic. I like the steel cut, but I don't know what that means. I want to know what a cylinder, like, you know, Costco. I want to know you go to a cheap. What's a pillowcase cost? You go to a cheap, yeah, you got a Costco or something and get a thing oatmeal. Now, not the individual sacks, not the pre-sweetened anything.

But you can get yourself a nice big old, big old sack of that. You can get yourself a nice big old generic box of brown sugar or jar honey. Sugar, man. That's bad for you. White sugar, especially. Don't you know that? That's why I said brown, dude. Fair enough.

Brown man, man. They settled the sugar land first, and then we kicked them off and slave their people. And they took the brown, really the nutrients on the top and scooped it off because it would addict you more with that white. That is so funny where growing up, my mom was completely cool with brown sugar, like, liked brown sugar. Right. Good for you. Same brown sugar, great. White sugar.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. People forget that that's another 70s fucked up thing. Right. White sugar was vilified. Brown sugar. That's awesome. You know what else was vilified? White bread.

Yeah. White bread versus brown bread. Like, she would tell me, look, I could eat all the brown sugar and pumpernickel I wanted. Or wheat, wheat, whole wheat. Yeah, but I'm just saying, even. I'm saying even pumpernickel. Pumpernickle. It's a Woody Allen thing.

Woody. Pumpernickel was just, I mean, at least whole grain is whole grain. Right. Pumpernickel was just a darker version of white bread, but it was dark. It was literally, this is the word white sugar, white bread. I just saw Billy Jack and roots. You did? Oh, you had just then.

Yeah. And I know that anything white is, I'm surprised by mom, didn't yell at clouds. You big billowy white balls of matter above my head blocking out the precious sun, not letting the sun come in. So here's the thing, Drew. Yeah. I want grit.

And here's what I don't want. I don't want to pay for your kids lunch. Yeah. Not because I can't afford the kids lunch or breakfast. I can afford it. Right. I want you to be able to afford it. I know you can afford it.

Here's how I know you can afford it. It's 89 cents a day when done correctly. And when I say 89, I'm talking about 50 fucking cents a day. And if you don't think whatever I'm doing is nutritious enough, listen to me. Buy a fucking big sack. Go generic everything. Buy a big sack of crushed almonds or, you know, almonds. or walnuts or whatever.

Get a big thing of honey. Get the oatmeal. Mix it in. Go get a sack of generic frozen strawberries or something or any kind of berries. Stall them out. Dump it in. Mix it up.

You're still under a buck. You have more nutrition than whatever shit they were serving up at the school, L.A. Unified, especially. And the best part is your kid feels. Yeah. Taking care of. Yeah.

Being taken care of. And not cast off. By the way, isn't the big thing, eat with your kids, have a meal with your kids, sit down with your kids? Oh, what happened to that? What happened to that? But you had to talk to your kids. Well, only dinner, only dinner. Only dinner. Only dinner.

Okay. Yes, Chris Max Bell. This isn't store brain, but on Amazon, you can get 10 pounds of Quaker. It's the real stuff. Over 100 servings for 18 bucks. 100 serving. That's over 100 servings. Right.

And 100 serving is probably twice what you need. 18 bucks. So less than a quarter, less than a quarter a serving. It has a $0.3.3. We figure it out. 23.2 cents a serving. All right. So we're under a quarter serving.

Water, that's free. Now we have another, we got some pan. We got another 50, 75 cents. We're still under a buck that we can spend on a squirt of honey, the brown sugar man, a handful of nuts, some frozen berries. We have a nice, hot, nutritious meal. Sit down.

You make it for your kid. But here's the thing. You make it for your kid. Right. And then your kid. sees you. And then later on, at some point, the kid may say, as I had this great, great conversation with my nanny, who has a child and is a single woman and is from Guatemala and has everything

going against her financially. And she had... For you, that's a big part of it. Yeah, strike one. She had all the other nannies tell her, hey, man, get free lunch for that kid. And she said, it's my kid. I want to feed my kid. She's a hard working woman.

She's got grit. She's got grit. And you know what? Guess what? Her kid started taking like classes in to get her license to become a cut hair in high school. And, and walked right out of high school. By the time she was a senior was already like working in a salon and getting credits and stuff like that. And by the time she graduated high school, immediately went to work for.

salon, been making a good paycheck, and has never been missed a day of work in the last five years. That's the message that was sent to her rather than go eat some gelatinous, greasy fucking shit, some Korean War surplus bullshit that the government is going to hand you. And then, by the way, once you start, it's like, once you start sucking off that government tit early and often, now you're in, baby. You drank. You drank their sour fucking milk and you're in. And now you're on it.

And you're, you know, symbolically, you want to talk about messages. You want to talk about what we're doing with the kids in terms of what message are you sending your kid when you smoke in front of them or when you raise your voice in front of them or whatever. What message are you sending them when you indoctrinate them into this thing? Now, this notion of, oh, I don't like kids. first off, this is fucking insulting. The people who do this, the arguments they make against the people who want to do away with this kind of stuff of, well, you just hate kids. If I just hated kids, I'd randomly run over a kid now and then on the way home.

Imagine how you treat yours. Yeah. I just don't like kids. No, I like kids. It's like saying to a PE coach who's yelling at the kids. Come on, one more laugh. Oh, you must hate kids. You must hate kids. No, do a push-up.

Oh, oh, oh, you hate kids. I remember the same argument back in the days when there was sort of nuclear proliferation and there was a mutually assured destruction of people. You want nuclear war. You want nuclear war. No, we want peace. Right. We think that's the way to it.

Turned out they were right. Yeah. Turned out they're right. Counterintuitive, I get that. Maybe a tough pill to swallow. But it's the right way. It's the way it works. The way this little experiment of poverty and lifting people out of poverty is not,

eroding their self-esteem and sense of value to the point where they don't think they're worth anything or can do anything. And by the way, creating a lot of hostility and resentment toward the people that are shaming them by giving them the free breakfast. It's weird to think that Clinton is the one that last undid this sort of thing. Yeah. He's the one that last successfully unraveled to us. I don't know. There's going to have to be a movement. And again, people laugh at our attempts to do this. I know it's a political thing. Jesus Christ, can we at least get a couple psychologists, sociologists, and whatever's together, and go, look, here's what works and here's what doesn't work. I know intuitively what works and what doesn't work.

I've lived both ends of it, but here we are. So, Gret. But hang on a second. You probably don't know how insane the shit that spewed out of the 70s. Kerry, help me out with this. I believe the Foster's name is Rolls, R-A-W-L-S. he's either conservative one or the one I'm about to quote they came out with a philosophy that said well

the only just society is the one that takes that puts the care and rights of the most underserved the most vulnerable ahead of everybody else so in other words if you have aides and you're homeless you're the one if this is a good society you're the one that deserves all the resources

yeah so where do you stop with that. Do you put them on a ventilator and keep them alive forever and you pour all the research into that one person? Yeah. And then where? Well, what's to prevent everyone from looking at that and going, well, hey, I want some help.

So I'll just bottom out and then I'll go to the top of the list. That's the problem. But, you know, Lou wasn't right about everything back in the day. And he raised a lot of money. I used to see one of those Budweiser commercials. And he had the, like, telethon of soul, and he put a lot of money in the hands. Different people for sickles. Huh?

Different one. Different philosopher. A different guy. Do you get right or is the other one? I forget the other one's name. Anyway, the one was kind of conservative. Anyway, let me throw something back at you, though. Mm-hmm.

I obviously heard you talked about this, and I believe you have a right to speak about this, since you have lived both ends of the spectrum, right? Although people distort, people are, it's funny. I throw, when I'm on television, I'll take an opinion that sort of, they have to listen to understand it. I get attacked. It's crazy. People are really primitive when it comes to the messaging that they can hear and tolerate the process. Well, they don't know who they're talking to because they're talking to people in you and I who are good at processing information and they're attempting to do some sort of cyclical sort of,

dog chasing its tail argument that seems to us like you're talking to a nine-year-old often times. Well, it gets primitive, yeah. It's sort of primitive reaction rather than any thought. That's sort of the thing, right? Yeah, and then it might just end with them calling you an asshole. Well, they start with that. Start with that. Oh, okay.

But here's, let me throw something out of you, though, Dick. Since we have started working together again, I've noticed you have a lot more, obviously you're more clear on this topic and you used to talk more about it these days, but it has distilled a lot more in your talking, and this may put people off a little bit, down to money specifically. And I've noticed that. You do a lot more talking and thinking about money, money, money,

you know, dollar, this dollar, hold on. Is it a symbol of what? Well, in this case, no, I see, it's a good point, and I hear your point. What I'm saying, these are top. that in the past didn't have to do with money. The reason I'm saying how much for a sack of oatmeal and it's 18 cents or 23 cents a serving, yes, I'm bringing money up. But the part they'll put people off is I don't want to pay for it.

No, no. Here's the thing. I mean, hold on. I'm talking about it in a dollars and cents because I'm trying to explain to people this doesn't have to do with money. You're making it about money. I don't want it to be about money. I'm saying if you do not have 49 cents a day to feed your child breakfast, you should not be raising a child.

That child should be taken away. It's the most rudimentary, fundamental thing in nature, which is if a bird cannot feed its little chick, that chick's going to die and that chick needs to be raised by another bird family. Like this is number one. You talk about education. Careful, though. Now the bird family becomes big daddy government, though.

Well, here's what I'm saying. You can talk about education and you can talk about higher education. You can talk about clothing and after school, this or that. But feeding your child historically, I think has come as number one. Yeah. And, I mean, in the last several million years. Well, if you really want to get right down to it, that comes right out of body. Right.

You feed your child through your breast milk. I don't, what I'm trying to say to people. It's kind of interesting. They're going to take that away too and take care of that for you. What I'm trying to say to people is it's not about me not wanting to give you a dollar day to feed your kid. It is. There's a little bit of that.

No, no. Well, first off, I don't, I don't care. I don't care about the money that I pay in. I care the fact that the money I pay in is squandered. That's what I think. It's going toward these. A bad system. A system that's creating a more, it's creating more folks dependent on this system.

It's growing a system instead of shrinking a system. And it's not the dependency that bothers you. It's that creating that dependency ill-served the population. It claims to be helping. Yes. I would, if you had a tumor, I would like to pay for your radiation. But if the tumor gets larger because of the radiation payment and people say to me, You need to pay in more so we can shrink that tumor and it's growing the tumor.

I don't feel good about paying. I don't have any problem about paying and shrinking your tumor. I would like you to pay to shrink your tumor. But if you can't, I'll pay. Let's shrink the tumor. I don't feel like the tumor is shrinking. So I don't mind. You know, people say to me all the time, for instance, I remodel houses.

I remodel my house. I remodel stuff. I've done a million jobs, you know. And the first question that everyone has. has when they come in to the door is uh what's the budget what's this going to cost you what's it set you back i go i worked on this thing you know for a year and a half i had six guys going full time 50 hours a week i you know they go how much it costs and you know what my answer is i have no idea i never have any idea i literally have no idea and they go you have no idea and i go look i want to

get this done i want to get done as fast as i can get it done but as efficiently as i can get it done. It costs what it costs. And then it'll cost what it costs. But I will not even worry about the cost. I'm only going to worry about the efficiency of it. I'm going to do it as fast. You're managing that. I'm managing it. I'm going to do it as efficiently as I possibly can. I'll be getting the plywood. You know, you guys keep working. I'm going to the Home Depot and getting the plywood. That'll save me money and your time and whatever it is. And you knew me when I was redoing

my house. I was on the phone with the guy on the way into work. I was a phone on the way out. I'd be there every morning. I was But I still, to this day, have no idea what it costs. I didn't care. I want it done as efficiently as possible. When I see incredible waste, then it bothers me. You see, if I come up to my house and I see someone has left the hose on and it's just running in my driveway versus my neighbor's house, it's a marginal difference in my mind over what I'm more upset about. I don't want, I don't like the waste.

Now, yes, I don't like the waste and it's costing me money, but I'm almost equally upset at my neighbor who's just running water down the sewer. Yeah. Not about the money. Yeah. The money is what the money is. That part, it just needs to be spent efficiently. That's the bottom of me.

But as far as money, yes, I agree with you as I get older. You're talking about more. As you get kids and you start thinking about future and that kind of stuff. Yes. But I would like. it to not be about money, I feel... You'd rather be about philosophy. I would.

In fact, and sort of what works. Practicality, practicality. Right. But when somebody, when I have to hear the constant beating of the drum of, when am I going to start paying my fair share, now you've made it about money. You point your finger at me and go, when are you going to start paying your fair share, I'm paying 50 percent. I feel like that's my fair share and maybe then some. Now you're going to going to hear a long-winded speech about money. I didn't start it, but if you're going to accuse me of not paying my fair share, or if I'm going to say, I know what's best for your kid, you feed your

kid. That'll be a bonding. And by the way, knowing that mama and daddy are working hard and have pride and got up a half hour early to make sure I was fed by that's going to go a long way in terms of building a character. Now, you're making it about money. You're saying you don't like kids, you're tired of paying for other people's kids. No, no, no, no. It's nominal. I don't know what the school system, whatever lunch costs. I don't know what it costs me.

Five bucks a year. I don't give a fuck about that. It's the message. That's what I'm sending. That's what we need to talk about. It doesn't get discussed. It quickly turns into you're rich. You love your precious money and you hate our kids.

It's hard to come back from that. And it gets even more. problematic and that it's man you had you had all the opportunity you had everything well i had white privilege yeah you have privilege everyone who knows my upbringing knows ask gavin newsome we came up the same way Gavin newsome had the balls to sit where you're sitting and look at me this is lieutenant government california thank you sorry and explain and who may be running for god knows what in years to come. He had the balls to sit where you're sitting and look at me and explain that he came from a broken home. So he understands firsthand what these people are going through, except for his dad

was lead counsel for Getty Oil. And he was a lawyer, the lead lawyer for the biggest oil company in the world at the time. And his net worth today is $2 billion. The dad's network is $2 billion? I looked it up. We can look it up. We can look at it up but uh yeah that is insanity but he looked at me with a straight face and he said i come from a broken family i understand firsthand what this is like wow so i know what it were lead counsel for getty oil oil company attorney and oil jesus christ dude you want to bring that shit up did you know it at the time when you're sitting here oh god no i wish oh god god god i wish one of my fucking Flunkies would have

fucking typed something into a goddamn computer I would have fucking gone insane on him no I had to go look it up later on because I wanted to know I knew he didn't fucking come from where I came from or where these kids

are coming by the way I had a long talk with Chris and Ray and people love that shit and you know what they really like the most and they want them back to we're going to get them back is the historical context people as much as we yell about that they didn't

get it. It was Chris's father's behavior and profile that broke through a little bit. The cool guy with the mustache and the fire bird just rambling man. He was just rambling, man. He just blows out on his kids and Chris

becomes just a horrible drug addict and is miserable and the dad's like, hey little son, come on. He's like dad's like Billy Jack. Oh no, no. You know what his dad? His dad literally it was funny because his dad looked like Jim Rockford. What episode was that?

We got to put the episode. At doctoru.com, it's Chris and Ray. It's worth your time. It's worth your time to listen to that history. His dad looked like Jim Rockford. My dad looked like Angel. If you watched the Rockford Files, you got to now find Angel from the Rockford Frived. Did you guys have that?

I did. I swear to God, it was funny. It was episode 45. Yeah. It was comical that my dad was Angel and his dad was Jim Rockford. and his dad was good-looking sort of just, you know, I don't know, semi-charismatic sort of. Dushbag.

We would call that a douchebag today. Well, it was fun. It's funny because when I was growing up, he was the cool. I know. He was living the dream of the 70s, man. He was doing what he was supposed to do. He would, he would, see, if you understand, it wasn't all about him. Like, he would, he got into, now, you know, Chris is going to paint a picture that's a little bleaker maybe than it was.

And a lot of people do that, myself included, when you're discussing your childhood. You're trying to make a point. Huh? What? Well, no, I don't, I don't fabricate anything, though. but you should know this about Chris. Chris's dad had a house. They lived in a house that had wall-to-wall carpet and air conditioning,

which was pretty cool to me. I turned the air on. Every time I slept over, I just turned the air, and I couldn't believe cold air was coming out of the wall. It was a register in the wall where cold air. Because in my house, there was no air. And if there was air, it was a thing that was in the window that was buzzing all night. You know, bar, you know, wall.

It was window mount, and there was one of them. It was in the den where my stepdad slept, where we watch TV. But then you'd go to your room, and there was nothing. So I would get up in the middle of the night because I ran hot, you know, and I would turn the air down and I'd go lay by the, this is cold air blowing from the wall. And I would lay on the carpet because I was like, this carpet goes from one wall to the next wall. We had carpets that my mom got literally out of people throwing away and put them down and they would roll up. On the edges.

So his dad would take us motorcycle riding. You know, he had a truck. He had a few, three, four bikes. It would take me and Chris and everyone to the desert. We'd literally sit in the bed of the truck in between the motorcycles and drive out there. On the freeway. We got Aquadoza Canyon. It was 100 miles out of town.

It was a truck back on the track. Oh, my God. I mean, Chris is. With motorcycles. Dirt bikes. On the, there wasn't a camper or bedliner or any of that. that, it was a transmission truck and a transmission fluid on the bed. Nice.

He would have two, three bikes, you know, tied down, standing it up, tied down. Little Ricky and Mike, the other brothers, would be in the front bench seat, you know, cab. And Chris and I would just be sitting, it's sometimes freezing because on the way home, you know, sun's coming down sort of thing, going down, sitting between the two pegs on the bike and the shifter and the brake, you know, just sort of sitting on the ground. on the floor of the truck. And you're like 11, 14. 11, 14, 11. Just sitting there.

Just sitting in the bed of the truck. Of course, you've got a freeway to be cool to stand up once in a while, of course. That's why I sit on the bike. But you've been driving on the freeway, seeing a kid in the back of a truck on the bike. You're on the freeway. We would go to Aquedosi Canyon. When I drive out to there's, there's Rockford. an angel.

That's what my dad looked like. You have to see these pictures. No, let's get, would you have raised father anywhere? Oh, not ready to mean. Chris's dad. Chris's dad. I mean, yeah.

And by the way, you can find pictures of angel where his hair's even bushier. Yeah, yeah, that was funny. I don't know if we can find a picture of Rick. But Rick took us right now. When I drive up to the high desert to go out to Willow Springs. About three quarters of the way there,

I will pass Aquadosy Canyon and go, man, I've been on the road for an hour. Yeah, yeah. And I'm driving 80 miles an hour in a jag. I'm driving to the back of a truck here. All right. Should we take a break where we take some phone calls? But here's the thing.

Yes, he was a drug abuser, Chris's dad. Yeah. He was an alcoholic. Yeah, you see the cool stuff he had you guys doing, but he was a horrible father living the dream man. of the 70s. It was a horrible dad. He would have been the, but he called me Adman.

Hey, Adman, you know, like he had a nickname for me. You loved him. I thought it was cool. And to defend him a little bit, he would engage in these. Now, he'd go out, you know, probably these Coke vendors, you know, and be gone. Yeah, yeah, all that stuff. But then he'd come home and he'd get in some thing, like remote control boats or something like that. and they'd go out and do it together.

Like there would be some of that. You know, I'd gone riding with the guy a million times. I'd never gone with my dad. I understand he was more the ideal dad in terms of his participation in those father-son activities. But think how much more problematic it was when he abandoned. That was even more painful than for Chris. Yeah. And he really took up because he was so intense.

It was so cool. And he did love him so much. Then he just takes off. It's fucked up. Yeah. That totally fucked up. Yeah. And by the way, but the point is completely reinforced by the,

the culture of the times. Oh, hey, man. Doing what you want, man. It's your life. You live how you please. His son's growing up. He's 14. He's taking care of himself.

He's fine. That was the time. Yeah, absolutely. And divorce? Well, yeah. Me and the old lady aren't getting along so well. So I move along. I ramble.

I would argue, yes, it was always rambling time back in the 70s. Especially for a guy like that. But I will say this. We've now gone too far the other direction. The pendulum has swung too far. the other direction, which is the constant coddling, the constant reinforcement, the constant support. But it's split. There's a population like that. I'll agree with you. And there's a big one. And then there's a population, again, not buying the oatmeal in the morning and just like the feral children.

Yeah. All right. Well, it's a cultural thing. And he can't judge. We'll take a quick break. We'll be back. You got a call you like there, Drew? I like a couple of them, yeah. All right. We'll be back with a couple calls. Next. Hello, and welcome to Pluto phone. If you knew the name of the movie you'd like to see, Just stream it for free on Pluto TV Where all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long Catch Anchorman, the legend of Ron Burgundy

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For showtimes press nothing They're free 24 7 That is so fetched On Pluto TV, stream now, pay never We're back We got question here on line three That I can't pronounce together talking.

Yeah. We run out of, we have not much to say to one another. We should, like, practice this. All right. All right. Let's do it. All right.

I like a two. By the way, you want to hear me and Drew up on stage talking highlights from our first three shows available on iTunes under five bucks. So how can you go wrong with that? Me and Dr. Drew, I think we're in Bakersfield.

We're in Santa Barbara. Jesus, we're in Bakersh. I forgot about that. Denver. In Denver. And all under five bucks. of travel for the price. Let's talk to Jessica.

Jessica, 25. Hi, thanks for taking Michael. What's going on? I have a question about it's hydra dinitis. It's like an outbreak under your arm. It's a really nasty kind of a... Yeah, like it's like foils and like you can get them like in different places. Yeah, yeah.

Is there anything like to get rid of that? Well, there's lots of treatment. Well, that works. It's a tough thing to trade. And there's everything from surgeries to, I think they use even acutane, hormone therapies, all kinds of stuff. They try. But it is a tough thing to treat. I mean, obviously, Jessica, you should be managed by a dermatologist. Like, I went to one and they just kind of were like, well, it's hereditary and you have basically like, don't raise your arm. Oh, no, no, come on. They did not say that. They must have offered. First of all, you must have a mild version.

They must be mild. Well, no, I get it in the groin area, like on my side, like really bad, and it's like all the time. Did they look at it? Did they see it? No. Okay, you need to go back. They need to examine. Do you see a dermatologist?

Yeah. You want to look at it? That's so shocking to me. You did not see a good, then you're not getting good care. You go back, you say, look at this. I want something done. Hold on. And by the way, that may not be higher.

Jessica, you must not look too good in your underpants if the dermatologist is like, keep the dungary's on, sweetie. I got a pretty good idea. You know, with the Internet, they got everything on there now. And by the way, that may not be hydrodinitis down there. That may be follicitis or something different. Or even fronculosis is different stuff. And so, you know. Now what's the hydrodinitis it looks like?

It's more like tunneling. It's really bad. It can look really unpleasant. You've never seen it, I'm sure. What's tunneling look like? It's like infection, you know, coming to the surface and, you know, abscess, abscess tracks and things. But please.

I'm sorry. Is it the same as getting like a boil like? It's not. It's not. And what you have down there may be boils. And that has a different treatment. So Jessica, bottom line, go back, get treatment, get proper treatment. That's it.

You know, saying the other day, I was kind of almost lamenting the fact that you don't see people with horrible skin anymore. I mean, acne. Yeah. I mean, remember you'd see that. Do you remember? Yeah. Well, it's treatable. Right.

Remember, remember every so often you'd just be going about your life and you'd come across somebody, you know, working or something, you'd like look at him and you'd go, oh, God, it's sweet. If it was a woman, it was always like a 22-year-old woman or something. I was always like, oh, I feel for you. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you just felt so fucking horrible for him. Now what? Now somebody would grab that and treat it.

Jeez. Yeah. No reason for that. Let's go to two. That's this interesting thing. All right. Stephen. Stephen in Detroit.

Lit up. Yes. What's going on? How are you, Adam? Get it on. Get it on, buddy. What's going on? I had a question.

I have epilepsy, which I developed when I was 25, that was the first time I ever had a seizure. Weird. And the only time it would happen, and I probably had five since then, I'm 27 now, is when I would be having intercourse, and I would go to finish, and I would have a seizure then. Wow.

Can you imagine that? No, but I think it would help, I mean, in terms of pleasing your lady friend, right? Make her feel really impressed with herself? Well, psychologically, physiologically, both, you know what I mean? Just like a vibrator? Kind of like it. Yep. Not even like it.

A vibrator. So what would happen? Your eyes would roll backward and shake. Freak out? I would actually pass out when I woke up my, I'd bite into my tongue, and, you know, it'd scare my girlfriend. I would scare the hell out of her. That's why I always fuck with my wallet in my mouth. Nice.

A, stops me from biting on the tongue. B, I know where my money is. You know what I'm saying? Because I've left it on the night stand and been burned. Case you're out. I've been burned a couple of times. And B, it just makes the payment, you know, the transaction is that much easier. It's like I just open my mouth, falls on her titties, you know.

Work it out right there, you know. I wonder what's a good way to go. You had that big thing, hospital sticks with a big roll of tape around the end of it at the end of your bed. I don't know what that was. Yeah, no, this is for the payment. Steven, so you take seizure meds? Yes. Okay.

So does that control it now? Yeah. All right. And I'm sure you had full neurological workup and whatnot. Yeah. All right. Well, it's one of them things. I mean, people get seizures triggered by various stuff.

That's an unusual one. I must tell you, I've never seen nor heard that, but it doesn't seem impossible to me at all. Yeah, that's what I want to know is how common was that? And sure, I worry about that's going to keep happening because... Well, if it keeps happening, you need new meds. The seizures should be controlled. And by the way, at very least, you don't want that happening while you're driving, for God's sakes. And so if you're still having a controlled seizure...

Oh, yeah, believe I'd go through that where they have to take my license away and everything. I know. Well, listen, I've learned from flying that if you get the right dog... With you? If you have the right dog for when you're fucking... Oh, like an anti-epalptic service sex dog. I've... The service...

All the service dogs I'm aware of. of our seizure or many. Well, some anxiety, be fair. Drew, let's please let it, let it be noted. Please, from the mountain tops, from the mountain goddam tops, I started complaining about passion fruit. And tea. In tea.

15 years ago. Right. And I said, this fucking passion fruit is a scourge. It's ruining our tea. All this fucking, all this bullshit flavor. People didn't. know what I was talking about when I started complaining about this. They were confused and irritated with you a little bit.

And they never heard of Passion Fruit. They did not know what this is. There is now Passion Fruit bird food. It's fucking Passion Fruit has taken over. No, no, I think it's gone. It did and it's on its way out. Fast. Don't you think?

Absolutely not. Really? People tweet me all day about Passion Fruit yogurt, Passion Fruit shampoo, Passion Fruit toothpaste. I thought it was gone away. There was zero products that contained passion fruit, except for this horrible gay LAT that we were fucking up in Los Angeles. And now there are 25,000 products that involve passion fruit.

And like I said, deodorant, toothpaste, it's ancillary shits. It's not even stuff you swallow anymore. Have fucking password in it. People never stop tweeting in this. I made it let it be known that I made it. that I made the decree with the dogs on the airplane thing about nine months ago and how this was going to quickly spin out of control. And it hasn't even, at least the passion fruit thing,

it took a good eight years to get it from tea to toothpaste, maybe more. It's only in the last few years that it made it from ruining tea to ruining everything else that we didn't know. Like I said, nobody wants passion fruit. They don't know what the fuck passion fruit is. They don't know what it tastes like. All right, but fine.

The dog in the airport thing, this bullshit, I made the decree nine months ago. It's going to take way less than 18 months for this thing to completely spin out of fucking control. Now people tweet me the bathrooms that are put in for the dogs. Oh, my God. Each terminal have a little miniature little doggy park. Oh, yeah. All the terminal. Well, when you have that many dogs, there's a picture.

Oh, my God. Drew, what are you supposed to do? Where is that? Where is that? I'm never going to that city. It's at the bathroom. You won't be able to help it, Drew. It will, it's in San Diego.

It will be in every, no, this is just one airport. Drew, what are you going to do if 10% of the flying public is flying with their pets? You're going to be cleaning dog shit off the floor if you don't have a place for the dog to grab. Right. Yeah. Well, what would you do with human beings if you provided no bathrooms? Yeah. Your point is taken.

Okay, it's done. We're over. We're in. It's in. It's on. And you can thank Richard Belser and the rest of the fucking crazed narcissist who decided to start flying with their seizure alert dogs back in the day. They were the douchebag pioneers. They're fucking Lewis and Clark of self-absorbed douchebags.

That's who began with this stuff. And now it's ubiquitous. and now all people do is tweet me pictures all day long of dogs in restaurants, dogs in airports, dogs everywhere. This is me at Costco. This is me at the doctor's office. This is me. And there's a dog. There's a dog just walking through every single fucking place.

On the table. Absolutely. People have to go to the website and see these pictures. Drew, you can't tell them what to do, man. Oh, my God. It's like at a Starbucks. What kind of dog is that? Self-intitled doucheback.

dog dog a mix douchebag doodle douchebag mix himself entitled to douchebag Drew do you does anyone is that is anyone going to listen to me

or we're just going to go off the fucking cliff is anyone going to listen to me do we not see where this is going you think the pendulum is swinging back that's given me I've taken heart in that well it's only going to here's one's going to swing back

when they say to you hey man 50% of what you're bringing down That's not your fair share. It feels a little light to me. And when people are being mauled and attacked at the airport by dogs,

that's eventually it'll swing back when a dog stumbles into a cockpit and takes down a plane. Like, they're going to have to, then it'll swing back. When you pack it up and swing over to Texas is when it'll eventually swing back. When we go to Nevada, we're going to Nevada, remember that we were. Yeah, that's our thing. All right. All right. Take a break.

I'll keep going. Yeah, you know what? Let's call the show. I think we've done enough good. And Gary Haphtard, saying, mahalo. Hello, and welcome to Pluto Fo. If you knew the name of the movie you'd like to see, just stream it for free on Pluto TV. Where all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long.

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