The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1002: Oy, Is It Cold!

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

January 29, 2019Adam & Drew open the show by going straight to the phones to talk with a caller who is about to undergo gene therapy before jumping to another caller with thoughts on Veganism and things like the impossible burger that is changing the food landscape. The guys also watch a clip from Meet the Press that was discussed on yesterday’s show and examine the statements therein. They also examine the weird way that anti-semitism seems to be creeping into the women’s march and how that came to be. As the show wraps up they speak to a caller who has thoughts on continuing education.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

All right, it's January 29th, 2019. It is a throwback episode, and we go straight to the phones in this episode. Callers about to undergo gene therapy. And then we talked to another caller with thoughts on veganism, and we watch a clip from Meet the Press that was discussed, examining the statements were made there. And we examined the weird way that anti-Semitism seems to be creeping back into the women's march. Huh, little did we know.

And how that came to be. And then we wrap up, gosh, I've got. really want to listen to this episode too, because this is a piece of history in evolution. And we wrap up by talking to a caller who has thoughts on continuing education. Enjoy this throwback episode, 102, number 1002 from 2019. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew's show. Yeah, get it on.

Got to get it on. A choice we've got to get a mandate. Get it on. Thanks for tune in. Thanks to telling friend. We love that about you, Roger. All right.

We have thoughts, but somebody's up there with some spinal muscle atrophy. Yeah. Let's talk to, is that a Jonesy? Get it on. Get it on, man. From Los Angeles.

What's going on? Yeah. I've been meaning to call in for a few years now, But I got a question regarding spinal muscle atrophy type 4. Drew, do you know anything about this? Are you familiar? Is it Wallenberg syndrome?

I don't think so. Let me see which one it is. Yeah, basically, I was born with this disease. Didn't really figure it out until when I was like 22, the left side of my body, started like vibrating, pulsing. And like over the course of the year, I went to 10 different doctors. they didn't know what was going on. Yeah.

And, yeah, spinal muscle atrophy. So my whole body, gain muscle. So this is the, this gets your shoulders and thighs, that kind of thing mostly. That's exactly it. Yeah. I did treat a patient with spinal muscular artery. I think his was called Wallenberger, Wallenberger syndrome.

And it got worse as he got older. And the interesting thing with that particular syndrome is they get smarter as they get older. Isn't that weird? There's the weird side effect of that particular. Only owls in nature gain wisdom. It gets smarter over the years. Did you know that true? Did not. Well, now people, adult humans with spinal muscular atrophy also. And how are you now? Are you able to get around? You know what? I can get around really easy. I can hike. Actually work in the film industry. I'm a director of photography. No one. knows, that's the thing.

I can hide it really well. I just have to move a certain way. I got to make sure, like, I step over cracks. You know, like, I can't stand up, like, on an apple box on the top, you know, at its tallest, you know what I mean? But, yeah, the weird thing is that my doctor said I was up to do some gene therapy. I'm, like, top of the line gene therapy. like only I'll be one of 12 people in America getting this gene therapy.

Interesting. Good for you. Yeah. I was wondering if you knew anything about that or familiar with it. There's nothing to know, right? It's brand new. This is brand new stuff. I know this.

Yeah. It's pretty crazy. Gene. Gene, you're young and alive. Wow. Come out of your hands. Dream gene And run, if you will,

to the top of the hill. Remember that one? I do remember that. It was another one song from the 70s. Jonesy, you're young and paralyzed. No, he isn't. He's old and paralyzed. Here's the type I was trying.

He was Cougalberg-Wilander syndrome. Oh, I knew it. Cougalberg Wheelander Syndrome. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, Matt's dad works for that law for him. That's type three. Oh, okay.

Underdog. Hey, yeah. Jones, he's good. Hey, can you call us back and tell us how the gene therapy is working? Yeah, yeah, I can. Hopefully I'll figure it out. And how they're doing. And what sort of, what exactly they're doing and how they're doing it and how they're

inserting, are they inserting a gene sequence or are they using RNA? What are they doing exactly? You're Angelica Hi Hey girl Oh my gosh I love you guys so much

I just I'm absolutely terrified to be calling right now So please go easy on me Why are you terrified Well I wanted to ask Something that Adam had said about Why he thinks that we're supposed to eat meat because we salivate when we smell it.

But I would argue that we salivate when we smell chocolate to cookies. You know what, Angelica, I funny would call it. Hang on, I had this conversation with, hey, listen. We should eat both those things. And I guess, I guess, what's the Starburger? What's that? Oh, yeah, Carl Jr. God, you cut us off for that.

Wait, no, listen, Carl's Jr., I guess, has these impossible burgers now, these vegetable-based burgers that are just, you can't believe, they're vegetable-ways. They seem, look, smell, and people insist that they get the taste of meat right, and then with the fatteniness, and they want this. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about how much we're geared up to that, that we go to any link to get something that is exactly like meat? We want it so badly? I do, but Angelica has, you know.

I think it's a better point than the salivation point is all I'm saying. You'll go to any length to get a vegetable product to look and taste like meat because we're wired up that way. Let me drill down on salivation a little bit. If I smell chocolate chip cookies, and I demand that you guys challenge me on this, as long as you fucking agree with me, I'll fire your fucking asses. Now, when I smell chocolate chip cookies, I think someone's cooking chocolate chip cookies. And then I think, I wonder where they are. Like, could I have a chocolate chip cookie? But when I smell like smoked meat, I do start salivating versus when I see a commercial for pizza or I smell chocolate chip cookies.

I think about chocolate chip cookies. And I think I would like to have some chocolate chip cookies. But I don't start an active sort of semi-sexual. event in my brain. Also, I don't have the, I got to have it. You know, I'm like, I smell chocolate chip cookies and I go, someone's eating chocolate chip cookies, but I don't do the, give me those chocolate chip cookies. I got a bit of that.

I, thank you, Drew. I got a bit of it, as all I'm saying. Well, everybody has a fucking bit of that asswife. I'm saying the meat has a, I'm pulling off the freeway and falling the scent. So it is, it hits a little hurting. I would. Well, you may be. a chocaholic.

And it's not just the, I mean, I'm like with pastries. Like I feel like that's a sexual experience, a cream cheese. Oh, listen, I ever, I fucking love cheesecake and all that kind of stuff. I love it. I don't have a sort of visceral experience. I have a, I would like some cheesecake or pumpkin pie, but I don't have that, where is it? You know what I mean? Feeling.

that maybe there's a savory thing that has to take place, like the fatty kind of hot. I don't feel that way about cold meat. I feel that way about cooked meats. Yes, like I have to smell it. It has to be some savory. Well, you think about what fat does. You take fat and cook it up, and it's like, give me that.

You put it in an ice box and just sort of turns it a pool ball, you know. Yeah. Anyway, you're... You're vegan or vegetarian? Vegan, yes. And also, the other thing, I just wanted to clarify. You said that the Animal Holocaust is probably an extreme way of looking at it. But I would encourage you to look into the way that they treat these animals on the factory farms.

It's really disturbing. But I'm, look, I am, I don't think anybody, thank you, Angelica, that was easy. I don't, I don't think anyone wants factory farming or appreciates factory farming. Right. Look, I have the same way, I feel the same way about steak as I do about oranges. When they go like, oh, yeah, well, who's going to fucking pick your lettuce if you don't pay? So you have to have to pay these impoverished people slave wages. Otherwise, I can't get a head of lettuce for $4.

It's going to be $5.25. I mean, like, it's such an insane argument. Like, you're going to pay five bucks or a head of lettuce? I was like, I'm going to pay whatever a head of lettuce cost after it's picked by somebody who gets paid a living wage and who has benefits and is documented and insured. like then whatever that is, I think we've all agreed that's how it works with cars and other facets of life, right? It's so weird. It's such an insane argument. Yeah, I draw the line. Like, first off. Lettuce. Like, the car you drive is, if you want to own a, I talk to a guy who sold private aircraft. He's like, half of it is attorney shit, lawyer shit. Like, that's half of it.

Imagine if you sell, you manufacture aircraft, what your liability, what your exposure is, right? Right? So it's like half. If the thing's a million bucks, it could be 500. Half of it is lawyers and liability and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you go, okay, I get it. But here's a deal. If you want that cessna, that's the cost of it.

Same thing with medication. Yeah, whatever the cost is, the cost is. And so my feeling is is, is. I don't buy heads of lettuce. I imagine they're $2.50. If paying the person a livable modern wage or an acceptable rate is $13 an hour or $17 an hour, and that makes the head of lettuce go from $250 to $3.35, then that's what a head of lettuce shall cost in this modern world.

And if you can find me anything else that works doesn't. work that way. I don't know what it is. Nice job, man. Gary found the clip, although he says the us refers to in the context to the news rather than a Democratic Party, but we'll give it a listen and see what it sounds like. This we were talking about yesterday, the Chuck Todd. We were. Correct. Do you guys want a little head or do you want it to start right with what you were talking about? I'll take a hand job. What? Nothing. A little bit of extras. Oh, oh, oh, the clip.

The clip? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, a little bit. Why not sure? The problem is the fake news problem. Any time that somebody gets something so spectacularly wrong and everybody piles on, it furthers the narrative that this is yet another American institution that the people of our country can't trust. That's the problem with the Vosfeed story.

No, it is. And as we've got to remind people, though, there are people that want to exploit this. They want to see us be put this way, and they're just doing it for exploitation purposes, so let's not give them the ammunition. What? Anyway. Thank you all for today. You did. But you gave him the ammunition by biting on the story.

Yeah. It's also, we're living in interesting times where you go, BuzzFeed drops a fake story. You all jump on it like ravenous dogs. and then you claim that they want to see us go down, so let's not give them a reason. And then they do it again that afternoon. Right. With the Indian, the Covington High School kids.

They do it again a few hours later. Yeah. So what is the narrative that's being promoted? This is some narrative? Or is it something that you guys do all the time? Well, it's kind of interesting because if you want to kind of look at the filter, that it's life sort of passed through. It's like they had the big march for life thing, and that's troubled.

You can't have religious people being against abortion, and that's a big issue. So it's funny, they kind of set the table with that with the Mike Pence stuff and his wife's working at the Christian school, and they've outlawed gays and gay parents and transgendered kids. So they kind of like set the table with it, and then they kind of brought it home with, the Indian guy and the Maga Hat kid and all that. Now, obviously, the thing that's crazy about the reporting is there's plenty of blame to go around. I mean, there's a woman's march, and they're up there talking about divesting from Israel. And it's like, I thought this was a woman's march.

wanted it turn into an anti-Israel march, which is an interesting theme, like how the women's movement has also turned into some sort of semi-anti-Semitic movement. Or not semi. Not semi. Or anti-Semitic things too. But the news outlets aren't that interested in that aspect of it. It is funny when they have to kind of, it's funny when they get it wrong because when they get it wrong, they usually. just go, oh, there's more news or it's taken another twist. Like, it's the funniest thing is like when they'll do like the, by the way, it's happening

so fast you don't even know it. Like there was a story a few weeks ago. Young black seven-year-old just shot in a car, just a couple of white guys, a couple of Trump supports just came by and shot him, shot the young black girl dead, black mom, blah, blah, and then like later on, like it's, oh, it turns out it was two black guys. who shot her. And then it's like, well, the story's evolved. And it's like, it's evolved or you just didn't get it right at all at the beginning. And does it ever, is there ever enough time to like go back and fix everything? No. Well, they don't. That's the problem. Although CNN did a good job

with the Covington thing. They really showed all the videos. They looked at it, said, we got it wrong, we shouldn't have done it. They, they were clear. I thought that was good. Yeah. Well, everyone should do that with everything. All the time. All the time. And they really should. But what they didn't do, though, is circle around and go, and we caused great harm to these kids and people are advocating, murdering them still, and we need to settle this down.

No. So they don't go all the way, which is unfortunate. Well, I'm not a religious person, but just declaring war on, like, Christians, this feels weird to me. And I, it's really going around these days. And Jews. Oh, and Jews. The Jews, it's another.

I find it confusing. Is it, like, Drew, honestly? Yeah. When you see, like, some youngest, African-American woman, and she's talking about the march, and then she's kind of beaten up on Israel a little bit, you're like, where does this come from? Like, what? Well, how does one indoctrinate themselves? So she is a devotee, or at least a close, has a close relationship with Farrakhan.

And so Farrakhan was talking about... Why is Farrakhan attractive to any human being who's right-minded or wants to just sort of get along or spouse all the stuff, whatever Martin Luther King said? Why is Lewis Farah? Why is the guy wearing the fucking Bishop Don Magic Wands suits with the fucking $800, $800,000, franc? on his glasses have been dipped in pewter talking about the wily Jew. Not the wilder, the scum, insect, all this stuff. Right. Well, why does that resonate with you?

Why do you find that attractive? So I asked that on my radio show, and a couple of people called in again. Oh, come on. Adam, I had to put these people on hold. You'd understand what fire comes down for the African American community, number one. And number two, he's right. The Jews were the slave owners. Uh-huh.

And I was like, huh? Yes. not only with his slave owner, but they also brought the slaves in. And I was like, what? They weren't here yet. No. So he has gotten everyone to believe that there's some connection there somehow. Right.

But there's like, there's like David Duke probably he's on a fucking Applebox right now talking about, you know, when a white woman lays down with a black man, he lays down with swine. I don't go, well, hold on, let me get my stentopad. What do you say again with the swine thing? All right. Let me get on CNN and see if I can coach a few people up on that. So he's laying down with swine. And when Ed Asder comes in here and talks about no Jews being in either one of the twin towers, I go, thanks, grandpa, not job, have fucking fun on your Uber ride.

Back to Schittsville. Like, I don't go like, oh, hold on, let me get my. What is that you say again, Ed? They persuade the. So the CIA wired the building, slow down, slow down. They persuade people. People have a paranoid bent. And we have lots of that now, lots of it.

And because everything is the same, Adam, everyone's opinion is equal. It's all on social media. What is the, I am so confused by the, like, divest Israel thing. Like, as far as I can tell, they're the only. sane people in an entire fucking region of insane fucking zealots who want to kill everybody.

Why, of all the places we need to fucking pick a bone, the fucking place of size in New Jersey, like what that you'll never go to? Like, what? It's insane that that is, that you're burning two calories on what's going on in

Israel other than fucking wish them well. Well, if you believe that they were the reason for slavery in North America. You feel differently. Oh, I mean, who was here? Who would Jews were here? None. Oh, God.

Imagine the utopia, Matt. Jewless. United States. No fucking threat of being sued or having a film produced. Just fucking get along with your life, man. Must be some Germans or something that were Jewish somewhere. New York or something. Yeah.

But for the most part, not here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Who controlled Hollywood before there was Hollywood? Well, then that was the next thing, the next wave that came across my phone lines was, here's the real problem, is that they control Hollywood, okay, and that they chose to put these aggressive images of rappers and hip-hop artists

that gave the wrong impression of African-Americans, and that's the juice fault. Oh, okay. They were too interested in money and didn't care about the consequences of promoting. promoting those images. So like a guy, like Herschel would be like, hey, Snoop Dog. Here, right, I wrote this for you. Bitches ain't shit but hos and tricks suck on these balls and lick on this dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, good, do it.

But with feeling, with feeling, into the microphone, my friend. Is that how it works? Something like that, evidently. Oh, man, the picture's getting. Shlomo's lyric. Shlomo's Ler. I got backhand like John McEnroe. The bitch steps up.

I'm smacking the hoe. Yeah, yeah, good, good. Let's get it down, Snoop or Cypress Hill or whoever we're talking to. And now, so that's how it works, because the picture is becoming clear to me now. Now you understand how we have to divest Israel. Because the Israelis, even though none of them have anything to do with Hollywood or music industry is what seemed to be the issue. Okay. So you're a black woman and you're giving you.

a speech at the woman's march and you're working in divesting from Israel in your woman's march where women get to go in the military or have to go in the military seems very evolved to me versus whatever happening to women on the other side of the wall that doesn't work it was a very weird twist in that women's march that it all went that direction and that's why there was a separate march for Jewish women in New York City otherwise yeah the always a cold march Gary's laughing. You got to say it'll get. This is a very anti-Semitic laugh.

No, it's... Oye! Is it cold? Oh, is it cold? All right. There we go. That's it. I say it was feeling.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And hate crimes up? Hate crimes up? All anti-Semitic. Oh, yeah. Well, and also... In terms of the increase.

Not that all hate crimes are not as you're going to speak, but the increase was all anti-Semitic crime. Most of the hate crime is like... We tabulate hate crime by, like, what happened? Well, some headstones fell over to Jewish Cemetery. What caused it? High winds. How many? 12.

All right. I told you the 12 cases. The one I saw. There was a video. Poor homeless guy was arrested because he was out of his mind. He did a Heil Hitler sign and said something derogatory. Yeah. It's like, you guys are homeless.

He's not, take care of the guy. He's got chronic mental illness, for God's sakes. Well, when you're tabulating hate crimes, your goal should be to find out how many hate crimes there were, not how many things we can count as a hate crime to falsely inflate our number of hate crimes because if you're, you know, them Jews, they're like termites. Also, as a comedian, anti-Semite, anti-Termite doesn't really,

that's not even up to a Mike Tyson level of, that's not even nipsy russell ask like i don't even know what it means i i'm i'm sure the termite analogy or equation's not a good one but i don't even know what you really know i mean they they eat at your foundation i guess what he was a little too impressed with that one wouldn't you agree yeah it's like when i hear larry the cable guy go get her done i'm like all right that's enough of that that's not that don't write that down.

Yes? Yes. So you anti-termite? Yeah. You're what I'm saying. If you have a termite inspector come to your house, they should find out what the infestation, if at all, are termites. But what they really shouldn't be looking for is to jack up the number.

It's not going to help you make a decision as to whether to tent the house or go some local thing or maybe nothing at all. See what I'm saying? So whatever you're doing, if you're counting orca whales and the best, you're, you're Trace, please try to get an accurate count. Stick with the Archer whales. Don't count the dolphins. Right.

And that way, we can then figure out what we need to do with shipping lanes. If you're going to inflate the count, then we don't, your count's no good. Yes? Yes. Okay. All right, Drew, you want one more call up here? Yeah, yeah. Line 6.

Matt, 37, Boston, Matt. Hey, what's up, guys? Get it on. Yeah, man. What's going on? So a couple weeks ago, I was listening, and Drew was talking about how. He had to take a continuing education course, as I recall. It was a seminar.

Do you remember that at all? I mean, I do them all the time, and I do tests. Yeah, yeah. And Adam, I do the M-K-SAP all the time. And Adam, I'm doing that for years. Reving it in my face, man. It drove Adam crazy back in the 90s when I was doing it all. It was going on an airplane out in public.

You'd have to do it on these Scantron forums. You have to literally fill it out with pencil, and now you do it online. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I teach a communication. If I had to fill one of those out on the plane, I would just instinctively find myself looking at another passenger,

like in their seat over their shoulder. I could be leaning over. Like, I'm going to Asian bruno. Then I'd write Fiesta Mix down on my thing. Bloody marrying Fiesta Mix. I think if I did a test, I would instinctively start looking around. Like, who's got the goods? Sorry, God, Matt.

What do you got? No, so Drew, I was just going to say, when you were talking about the, latest one that you've taken, you were like, you know, it made me think, like, maybe I should really do something, like, significant for my continuing education, whatever that might be, the next step. Oh, oh, man, call back. Call back, Jack.

Let's see. We've got another one about Alzheimer's. I'll do that one tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow. We'll do that tomorrow. All right. I also story heard about, I think it was oxycodone or oxy cotton or whatever, the family.

And it turns out they're sort of being responsible for pushing those out there. Oh, yeah, the Sackler family. The Sackler family. Yeah, yeah. Well, the part, I've always said that that piece was overstated, that it's really the medical. It's my profession's responsibility. It's not the drug companies. then I heard they doubled down between 2013 and 2016.

I'm like, okay, now it's on. All right. Now fuck you guys. Well, let's get in that because remember I was saying it sounds like pretty good business for these guys getting all those pills and getting everyone addicted? And you're like, well, they would never. Drew, think about your mind, circa 1999, when you were like a fresh idealistic physician. And I was suggesting you that these pharmaceutical companies might want to. to get these people hooked up with this stuff and move some product and you like you were resolute.

Like they would never do that. That's immoral. Yep. And we'll examine your brain now. Okay. Do it. All right. We'll do that.

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