The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1006: I Don’t Miss Anyone Who Doesn’t Miss Me

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

February 4, 2019Adam and Dr. Drew open the show with Drew asking Adam if he has heard about the recent comments made by David Alan Grier on the Howard Stern Show and how Adam interpreted them. The guys go deep in trying to understand the meaning behind his comments and how he came to believe the things he was saying. Dr. Drew also makes an impassioned plea for Adam to reach out and try to get a dialogue going with DAG in an attempt to salvage the friendship. They then turn to the phones and speak with a caller that has questions about the pros & cons of micro dosing and another whose girlfriend has a child with autism and is wondering about the potential should they have a child together.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

episode is number 1,006 February of 2019. I opened this one by asking Adam if he heard about the comments that David Don Greer made on the Howard Stern Show. We go deep and trying to understand what he's experiencing and how he came to believe in those things. And I wanted him to reach out and try to get a dialogue going. I'm saying to this day, try to salvage that relationship. No, well, let's say I didn't get too far. We're still in the same boat today. Seven years later.

We go to the phone, speak to a caller, questions about pros and cons of microdosing, obviously, hallucinogens. And another whose girlfriend has a child with autism was wondering about the potential they would have for that happening again if they have a child together. So enjoy throwback episode from February 4th, 2019, before the world changed. Recorded live at Corolla 1,000.

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There you go. That comes well. So, Drew, what's on your mind there, Bugg? So I've been putting this one off, but we've got to have this conversation. Did you hear Dag on Stern? Yeah, I did not hear it on Stern, but somebody brought it to my attention. In that sense, what did you understand? I understood that Stern asked him if he had any celebrity friends, and then Dag said he didn't really have celebrity friends.

and then he said, I had, well, Adam Carolla's a celebrity friend, but not really friends anymore, because I'd turn into a right-wing troll. Right. And he said, it was even actually a little more, hang on, hang on. It was a little more tender than that. He was like, well, Adam and I used to hang all the time. And the stern goes, oh, really, really? He goes, but not anymore. He sounded disappointed.

Well, then it was funny because he went on to explain that you should just put your differences aside and focus on the friends. Then I think Robin may ask him why he didn't do that with me. Correct. And he said he couldn't. I thought that was funny. But then I thought, it was funny, but then I thought, I've been wondering for like 10 years, what the fuck happened to dag? And this seems like too much for me. I can't believe that doesn't make sense to me.

For 10 years you've been wondering? Probably. Well, I know he's done this to you. He did it to me because I think, again, I don't know. because I didn't promote something he wanted to promote. I wasn't allowed to by Kevin Weather at the radio station. Now, I apologized to him. I went and saw him at Porgy and Best.

We saw him a couple times in New York. We had nothing but play. Oh, man. I saw him do Mammett's a race. I know. I tried to see that, too. How kind of race-painting could I be doing if I went to go support the black theater? He won a Tony Award for that, didn't he?

Jesus, crazy. That's got a lot of nerve. I'd have a fucking guy a ticket for like $122. Yeah. Sorry. So, and we had real nice. you know, ran into him one time and nothing but old, you know,

same as always relationship with him. And then he disappeared again. And I've always just wondered what the fuck, because it's... Well, I think you would try to pursue him, right? Yes, I would. I was actually thinking about you today

because somebody brought it up to me and they said, why Why do you want to, are you going to try to like reach out to DAG? Reconciled it. Well, it was comedy. It was comical because he said like, well, I'll go to Jimmy Kimmel's Super Bowl party and have a good time. But Jimmy Kimmel's coming to my Super Bowl party.

So he's not getting invited to Jimmy Kimmel. Why invite him to yours? Well, somebody said that. And I thought, I don't know. Why? More importantly. Why don't you wait me to yours? Oh, shit.

God damn it. You like opera. Not a Super Bowl guy. That's some bullshit. I can't lower the threshold that low, Drew, because then everyone would, you know. I understand that. No, I, you know, the thing that's weird about me, well, I don't know if this is weird. You tell me.

It's what makes me maybe difficult to be friends with. could be difficult to be married to, could be difficult to a lot of things. We're going to call this some insight. I decide whether I've done something right or wrong. I have people, you know, I have people tell me I'm horrible and crazy and everyone hates me and stuff like that. I just kind of go, I'll decide, but I'll be fair about it.

And if I did something wrong, then you're getting an apology. But if I didn't, and this is all just something you did, then you're not getting an apology. but I don't have thoughts about it beyond that. Right. I don't... As it pertain to this. As it pertains to most facets of life, jobs, relationships, friendships, like it doesn't anything.

But you've done nothing wrong, but I don't think you owe anybody in apology, but I think you could value a relationship and go after it, nonetheless. I guess you definitely could. I'm not wired that way. My wiring is... I've wired that way for sure. For sure. My wiring is let me try to figure out what my part in this play was. And if I...

That's the Adams robot world. Now let's go to Adam's human world. And if I can't find a part in the play where I negatively acted or owe somebody or whatever, then I just move on. I understand you could just move on. And that's not an unhealthy thing to do. I'm saying I missed the guy. we had a really pleasant, fun relationship with him. I miss him.

Why the fuck not make an overture? Well, I don't miss him that much. I don't miss anybody that much. You're a... Well, first off, I don't believe you. I haven't seen David Allen Greer in four and a half years. At least. Well, how am I going to get by without seeing David Allen Gray?

I get by every single day without David Allen Greer. My kids were seven and a half the last time I saw him. So therefore what? Well, therefore, I'm able to continue through life without David Allen Greer pretty easily. You can continue without anybody with an attitude like that, young man. Yes. Well, that's how I'm wired. My wiring is... It's not how you're wired. That's bullshit.

It isn't? I... There's people I don't see for long periods of time. And that was their doing. That was their deciding. I know. And for the most part, you're brutal with that, but you're... deliberate. Like, it's of your own doing. This one was not of your doing. It's kind of two-way street. I've had it both ways. And my feeling is somebody... This one was really... This one seems off-base to me. Well, I don't get offended. I'm not offended either. I just think...

Well, normally off-base was followed by offended. His criteria, something's wrong. It's not... You know what I mean? It's something going on in Dag's head. And so, So as such, sometimes a human overture overcomes that. I totally get the part where if I was better or bigger or wired differently, like a human, that I would attempt to write something, that even though I may not have wronged it, I would still attempt to write it. And I wouldn't even, I wouldn't call it as a, I would call it writing like writing. writing a capsized ship, not writing a wrong. Yeah. Okay?

So we're just bringing it back into line again. We're into reality. Whatever the fuck happened, it's happened, and I don't know what that was, but, you know, he's somebody we value and care about and had fun with and miss. You don't miss him? I don't miss anyone who doesn't miss me. How do you know he doesn't miss you? He might. Even though he deliberately is causing the rift, he might still miss you.

Well, and by the way, I know that just sounds. you up. He brought you up like that. It just sounded, I know that just sound like one of those answers. But what I, what I mean is, is when Stern asked, he immediately went to you and it caught my ear. I was like, whoa. What I'm saying is, by the way, you didn't hang that much with him either. You know what I mean? It's like, I think the loss is more than the actual relationship was. Well, you know what I mean? And look, I don't, you know, my feeling is, and I know it sounds like a cliche, like I don't miss anyone who doesn't miss me. But I, I have a very, you know, But it sounds a little bit obstinate.

Like, hey, man, if he doesn't come at me first, I'm not going to be, you know what I mean? Well, I didn't say it that way. I know, but it had that quality to it. Like, well, man, if he doesn't miss me, I'm not going to miss him. Let it go. And then it goes. And then you lose something. Well, here's the deal.

There's a couple things. I'm exquisitely busy. Okay. So that takes care of about 80% of life right there, just being exquisitely busy, constantly busy. Also, I don't have a lot of like downtime or I hold a cup of coffee with two hands and like reflect. Look out over the landscape. No, I'm busy yelling at people on a phone.

Like I never, I'm always building something like I'm always doing something. So I really don't have a lot of like reflecting over the golden pond kind of moments. Number one. Number two, I have this constant influx of people and faces and. folks like blowing through my life. Like just coming through my life. I don't mean it's a pain. It's a distraction. And it doesn't, there's not a lot of

geez, it's all dressed up and nowhere to go. Like it's more like more projects and more things and whatever. But in a way, look, look, nobody's more the workaholic than me. And you have to watch out for that because you miss the things that are important like certain relationships and things. And I don't know, man. I feel very strongly about this. What do you feel strongly about?

we have a history with him. He was a, he, we had a, and I know it's, I could hear it in his voice. He brought you up right away as a loss. As, you know, that's, that's a friendship I lost. And, and, and I know, you know, that you chanting about education and family is not going to piss him off. I don't know what got him or what went off the rail. I know it's, and I know you could easily avoid it, whatever it was. Right.

And it's, you know, you had more in common than you have, with the BS. that whatever the rupture was. I just wonder if somebody came up. You don't know how people love shit staring? Go up. Hey, you're Adam talking about it. And it got him. You know, and Dad can go all of a sudden, right?

Yeah. Oh, no, that's true. So I'm going to say somebody did this, maybe not with, you know, evil intention, but that it took him out of reality. I don't know. I feel like everyone who does that has evil intention. Everyone, everyone says, did you hear what Adam said about? They never, what were they doing it? What is their intention?

I agree with you. I agree with you. To a form. Personality flaw. I agree with you. Oh, my God. It's personality flaw. And by the way, in 50 years

Wallaby chicks, this is all chick activity. And now dudes have fucking jumped in to the fucking deep end of the massingale pool. Wouldn't mind visiting that mass scale pool. See what that's all about. I lifeguarded there for a summer. Really? How was it? A little spring like sand.

He got used to smell. What do you guys think about what we were just talking about with tag and stuff? Do you have feelings about this? You get me? I agree with Adam that that's how he's, wired. Oh, fuck you. You agree with me that there's a loss here. I also am disappointed to see that that friendship is lost. It's a rift, right? Both as a just a human, I think they, I've witnessed them off air, and they were very friendly. They were, they were good friends. I mean, maybe not

see each other every day, but they were very friendly and enjoyed each other seemingly from my point of view. And as a fan, I'm a little, I'm very disappointed, you know? We, Dag is a staple of your two relationships, and to have him on once every couple years was special for the fan. So I'm disappointed. I, I feel the loss, but I can totally understand knowing Adam how he, his opinion is if this person who I haven't really interacted with in a long time feels negative about me and wants to go out and talk about it publicly, why am I going to then reach out and spend my time trying to fix it maybe. I get it and it may be somebody's got to broker this.

Gary, I sign you. We've got to broker this piece. I don't like, by the way, I don't like the reunion stuff. It's uncomfortable. So it's not it's that you're working under the auspices of me wanting to reunite. It's uncomfortable to me. I know. So because it's uncomfortable, you'd rather just not do it?

Yeah. Okay. That's how I'm are. I don't want the discussion. No, not, well, not discuss. I don't want any discussions either. I want to just hang out. I don't think we have to have any discussions with him if you get them, if we were to come back in here.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, maybe it would. It's probably come up. I mean. Troy wants to hang out. Just like skip stones. I think the Super Bowl party's a decent opening there, though. You got a lot of other people to be hanging out, people just drinking.

That is about the lowest pressure situation if you wanted to do it, is invite him to a big party that you're hosting where a lot of people are going to want to talk to you. Is it the new house? I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Is it the new house? No. No.

No, because I want to fucking have a beer. and enjoy myself. I don't be looking around. I understand. See what I'm saying? Yes. I was funny. I was talking to Mike August today.

And we're sort of laughing about whatever state we're in now with everybody's going nuts. Yeah. You know, I said, you know, Mike, the thing that's funny is you, your dad was a football coach. You don't care. And I played seven years of Pop Warner. I don't care, but I'll tell you who would care. Dr. Drew. I wasn't even thinking about seeing you later. I was just like, I was like, I know Mike August's wiring, he wouldn't even, he might not even know.

Yeah. Or if he did know, he wouldn't care. Yeah. I don't, I, I, I don't, I. Bugs the crap out of me. Huh? Bugs the crap out of me. I don't care at all.

I only, I feel horrible. If you want to ruin my day, then you just tell me about something I did wrong to somebody who didn't deserve it. And I feel like shit. I've had all kinds of situations where people were pissed off. Like, what are you talking shit about this, that, and the other? But it's because they do whatever it is I talk shit about. Right. You know, it's accurate.

Famously said to my nephew, who's down the road now, I said, you know, if somebody's talking smack about you, you can, A, get a thicker skin, but you could be stop the activity so you don't want to make funny of you being late to the job. You can cease to be late to the job, and then they wouldn't make fun of you for being late. There's a choice about stopping the activity. I don't know if people understand there's an option where you get to stop doing what, you know what I mean?

Like if they make funny you for being cheap all the time, the next time you go out to dinner, pick up the tab, and then they won't call you cheap. There's a way to avoid it. Yes. It's very nuanced. You have to show up. Very novel idea.

Or pick up a tab. But, I mean, there's ways to get out of whatever this thing that people are calling it. Yes. Is this a new thing? Is this a new thing in our society? I mean, new, like maybe the last 20 years or something, where you point out what somebody is doing that is incorrect, wrong, or costing you time or money or whatever? And they start getting angry. You're a bully.

For bringing it up? Yeah, you're a bully. When did that, is that a new, how new is that? The millennial thing. Is that part of the new? The new thing? I feel like I know some adults who are into that too, but I never get what that is. Like, and I also, as I always say-

Because no one ever stops and thinks. You know, I heard an interesting podcast recently. I was talking about logical thinking versus intuitive thinking, which is what we've always been talking about. Some people are prone to this intuitive thought process where they don't stop and think objectively about what's going on. And so intuitively, you're a bully. It hurt what you did to me.

You need to stop. Objectively, maybe I had a role in this and I could adjust my behavior to affect the outcome. Right. And so the supposition, which is way off, is when Matt, the Porson Punisher finally, are not bad Matt, just Matt. I was Matt DeAndre it, but he's just Matt. When Matt says, hey, your plumbing part's going to be on Thursday, and I go, what time on Thursday? And he goes, I didn't ask. I go, hang up, call him back and ask him what time.

I'm not doing it to boss Matt around. In my world, I would like, I wish he'd ask what time and just did it on that phone call. But I'm not doing it to boss Matt around. I'd like to know what time it's getting dropped off. and there's a sort of thought of like, oh, you love just telling people what to do. It's like, no, I just, I want to know what time the part's coming in. And that he did and then that I did. But it's not a, I don't know why.

I don't, I'm trying to think, Drew. Do you think, I've never really accused anyone of, oh, you're just saying that to get me to do this or that. It's a weird posture. Not, Matt doesn't have that, by the way. It sounds nonsensical. I'm not saying that Matt has that. I'm saying a lot of people have the, oh, so if it wasn't this, it'd be something else thing. And it's like, why can't it just be, I want to know what time the part's coming in?

Right, right. Why is it need to be processed? I always assume that when anyone says anything to me, that's like, that's just what they want. Yeah, I don't take them at face value. Yeah. Why should I think anything else? I don't, there's a lot of that, like a lot of, oh, yeah. Don't you have a wine?

You want this. Yeah, well, women do it a lot. But I don't. And guys. who are now acting like women do it a lot too. But I don't, I've just assumed that whatever somebody tells me is because that's what they want or they forgot or they need it or they whatever. And sometimes you think things are a little unreasonable, but I never attach anything nefarious to it. I'm just assuming that that's, they change their mind or that's what they want.

I think there is a new layer that you literally have to take into account someone's mood. Because many times the expression of whatever is a function of mood and not motivation or getting something done. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. I'm not talking about his wife now. How dare you. All right. Parker's been on hold for a while.

South Florida. Hey, Parker. Hey, gentlemen. How are you guys doing? Good. What's going on? So, just on the tag note real quick, I think the first, I think the first. fans will miss you playing engineer when he's doing the Teddy Pendergrass more than anything else.

God, that made me live. Those are some great. I mean, that was radio magic. How about, how about the, how about, there's at least two other bits, including. There's the one with you, Drew. Yes, he's in the earpiece. And, yeah, that one. Well, no, no, there's his making up names of children based on medication.

Oh, my God. So good. Yeah. And there was the one when he. how he is with his lady friends. Oh, yeah, it always made me laugh, too. Yeah, so I'm calling about microdosing. I feel a lot about it, obviously, in Reddit and a lot of other social media applications.

But I've seen that there's a lot, there's been more studies on it and that it's getting some traction. I don't think it's anything I would ever do, but maybe, um, Drew, Adam, your thoughts on... All right, here's my thoughts, very quickly. Generally, you know, hallucinogens have therapeutic value. We just don't know at what risk yet. So end of life, chronic PTSD, those sorts of things that are just, you know, horrible for sure worth the risk. To improve your creativity, I'm not sure it's worth the risk.

And I've talked to many, not many, several people who do microdosing. and in every case they claim that it helped their mood, but when I really evaluated them, they weren't even talking about mood. They were talking about PTSD. And we know that hallucinogens do have a role in improving PTSD symptoms. So that makes sense to me.

But again, at what risk we just don't know yet? How does microdosing work? Barker, what have you read about it? I think it's one-tenth of what you would normally take for a dose. I think it's even less than that. It's tiny dose. Yeah, it's tiny doses. Tiny doses.

So, Parker, let me weigh in here. There's a lot, okay, so there's a lot going on. And then let me just, before you do it, say one of the things, we have people treating themselves for psychiatric pathology, which is never, never good. Here's my microdosing thought. There's a lot going on, and you're being inundated with a lot of material. and a lot of light and a lot of sound and a lot of thoughts and everywhere you turn, there's more news and more info and more stuff to process.

It's usually negative that's coming your way. And it's going to create something in people who expose themselves to it in great amounts or even medium amounts. You're talking about the world we live in? Just everything's got a screen. everything is making a noise. Everything is trying to tell you to do something. And you, we are going to get off kilter. Everyone's going to get off kilter.

Everyone is going to get a little agitated, a little irritated. They're probably not sleeping as well as they should. And everyone's a little bit off whatever rhythm they were on back when people would walk to school and walk to work and whistle. and have a strap full of books. Strap. A strap, like a belt of books around like Pinocchio did. And everyone's going to get off.

They're going to get out of rhythm. And I worry that you taking something that kind of get you, you know, to kind of soothe the savage beast a little bit or just get you a little more even or a little more whatever. That's fine, but it's going to be the new normal real fast. It's going to be what you do to get back to normal. And then you're going to miss it if you don't have it. Or it'll be your new normal and more feeds will start coming your way and get you whacked out further. And you'll have to supplement it. I don't think it's a great, I don't know, in a way it feels like, well, Jenny Craig makes fudge bars.

You can eat for those who are dieting. But it's like, maybe just get off the fudge. Yeah, yeah. And why the shitty synthetic fudge? Like, or how about this? How about you do the Vinny diet and exercise and all that stuff? And then have a fudge brownie Sunday night. Right.

And have a good one. Right. And then go back to work Monday morning. Like, I'm thinking that's the way to combat whatever this is. Now, look, if you're a war veteran and a grenade went off in your face or something. Yeah. And we should be talking about MDMA, really, then in that case, too. Right, that's a different thing.

But if you're just kind of looking to get even, I'm going more with the jog and the forest. And the idea that, oh, I can be more productive in my programming, you know. No, no, no, no, no. That just means, that's again back to being off kilter because you're looking at too many screens. Right. All right. Let's talk to Jimmy 31, Denver, Jimmy.

Get it on, get it on, get it on, maybe. Get it on, man. What on, boys? Love you guys. Love the show. Thank you. I've been listening for about three years and running red lights ever since. Nice. Oh, boy, I got a new red light I go through and I go through the whole red light.

Yeah. I go through the whole thing. Where is it? Where is it? Because I moved up the street. Yeah. And I don't go out. I go out by the fire department and I just run the whole fucking thing.

And I go through it in my head all the time, which is if I ever get a ticket and I won't. But if I do, I'm fighting. it because you're going to have to prove to me why there's a side street with no signal on it that leads to the same street where I'm able to use my judgment that's one block down. Why is this inherently different than that one? Yeah. Fuck you. Go through them, by the way.

You'll never get a ticket. You'll never get a ticket. Oh, yeah, I've been doing it for years. It's a game changer. It's great. Yeah. Hey, my question's for Drew. I appreciate you guys taking my call.

So I'm 31. My girlfriend's 34. or she has a five-year-old son who just got diagnosed with autism. And as things kind of progress with us, I don't know, thinking about marrying her, I was just kind of worried and wondering, you know, if we have kids, what are the likelihoods of that kid being autistic? Yeah, there's no way to predict that, but I'm not aware of anything that would put her at substantial risk of having another child.

with autism. In fact, the only data I'm aware of suggests that if there is a genetic source, it comes from the father. Was he an older guy? Was he an older gentleman? Yeah, he's older. I think he's about 38 now. Yeah, but that's still not that much. Not that old. Yeah, but older men tend to be, the only, the only thing I've seen that seemed like a reasonable study that showed that older men are what associated with the potential for autism. Other than that, we don't know. All right, Jimmy. Thanks. Appreciate it.

And Adam, I was wondering if you had any hookup with Tom Arnold. I'm an amateur boxer, and I know he's boxing everyone in their mom lately. I wonder if I could box him for charity. What do you thought? I don't know if you can catch crazy, but I'd be scared that if he ever got you in a clinch and he sweated on you, you may go insane as well. I worry about that. I don't know, I'm not a, I'm not a doctor, but I'm saying, he sweats on.

He sweats crazy. Yes, he does. Next thing you know, you get a little crazy in your eye and it gets in through some of that tissue and you start to wake up the next day and you can buy a Napoleon outfit. And you start talking about tapes. Start talking about tapes. I love Tom, but Jesus Christ. I saw him the other day.

It's like, buddy, just mellow out. Just reel it in. that he's probably my number one example of like Tom Arnold is 60 years old there was when I was a kid there was no such thing as a 60 year old that was that beaked up

like when you're 60 you're like I got a maroon sweater that's ox blood sweetie sweetie the salesperson said it was maroon well anyway one of the buttons broke off and so I took it to the tailor Those are the stories you would hear from 60-year-old guys when I was a kid, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Now it's just fucking insane. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird, right? Yeah. They're getting divorced.

They're getting into fights. They're 60s. 60s like the new 28. It's weird, yeah. All right. Oh, Eric Garcetti, not running for president. So what happened? He stepped out.

The homeless thing was a little too much for him. Yeah, I don't know. Well, he may have rolled his ankle on a homeless guy. He walks over homeless. You know, like when you walk on railroad tracks? Yeah, yeah. That's what Garcetti does. Well, he walks out to the limo that way from the house.

And he may have rolled his ankle on the last one. It would have just been humiliating if he ran. Like, he would have been eviscerated. All you'd have to do is pull up some vital stats on L.A. And then you'd go, you'd like to spread this far and wide? we should be building a fucking dome over L.A. So it doesn't, we don't contaminate nearby, nearby cities. I think you're going to have to extend that dome across the entire state.

Oh, yeah. I mean, California. All right. Check the amount from my celebrity big brother. Until next time, I have a call for Dr. Hussay. Mahalo.