The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1122: The Seeking System

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

July 22, 2019Adam and Dr. Drew kick things off with Drew’s New York trip and a Teen Mom reunion taping that was derailed by a citywide power outage, which leads into a discussion about how phones create a false sense of security. They then take a caller about old Land Rovers, and the conversation drifts into Adam’s childhood memories of 1960s music. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get on. You got to get on. You got to get on. He's got to get on. If you don't get on, I'll get on for you. You got to get yourself up.

Put yourself up on your own bootstraps and get it all. Yeah. I want to think to... Two, like I said yesterday, I was traveling. I accumulate stuff for you when I'm traveling. And one of the reasons I was in the city was for a teen mom reunion, which you do. Teen mom. You know, we're so often.

Who's all there? That's the OG ladies. Mm-hmm. You know, Amber and Macy and that group. Have they turned out? That's something I'm doing pretty good, actually. Mm-hmm. We added some new ones to it and McKenzie and stuff.

Anyway, that's the hero there. We often get into some shit with these guys. And we were in the middle of a very heated conflict when the power went out in New York City. Really? Yeah. And so we're sitting in the dark with an audience of about 100 people and no one knows what to do in the middle of a fight. Like we're totally having a fight. And had to, you know, and you got to remember it's New York City.

You think, okay, now what caused this? Terrorism? What are we in for here? Things start to clarify themselves and they send the audience home and it's clear it's not going to come back online. And so I spill out into Times Square. Mm-hmm. And you know what that's like on a regular day, right? Mm-hmm.

Multiply that by 10 and put everybody on meth. That's what it looked like. With the power still out? Powers out. Times Square, very few of the signs are still on. Everything's out. And there are thousands, tens of thousands of people in the streets. And every 30 yards, a either fire truck, state trooper, or NYPD vehicle with the rollers going.

So you have thousands of people pushed into the central area. All you see is rollers wherever you look. And unclear what's going on. We still didn't know what caused this thing. It was weird. I mean, it was bizarre. And I don't know if you know that on this coast. So I talked to some law enforcement and they were like pissed.

Their thing was we got to get people out of here because we don't know. It could be terrorism. People got to move out. Instead, what happened, this is what you don't know out here, is the Broadway plays all stop too because they're right in the middle of the show. Lights go out. So the cast of several plays came out onto the street with the orchestras and started performing in the streets. Wow. Yeah.

Which I think is what kept this thing from unraveling because people, it felt like it was about to like. blow. You know, so... The videos of it were really cool. Did you join in? Did I sit and sing a dance? No, I did not. Of the Broadway plays or of the craziness?

Of the Broadway plays. That made it look very, very calm. I think they... It pissed off all the lawn for us because they needed everyone out, you know, in case something was going down. But it served to calm everybody, I thought. And that was sort of how we got through all that. And the other thing I was noticing, I'd say 30% of the people were not attending to

their own safety, that they're friends. phones up. Oh, right. It was kind of an interesting phenomenon. Trying to get pictures of the billboards all out and stuff. And it was still kind of daylight, so you couldn't get the full effect until for a couple hours. Yeah. That was my level experience. I'm very, uh, I'm with you. I notice it when I see like the major league soccer players or the gals celebrating in the locker room or the baseball player soccer room. And everyone's like jumping up and down. Everyone's got their cameras out in there above their head and my feeling is sort of like, this is covered from every angle.

Not only that. Not only is that true. But people were like, do you get pictures? Do you get pictures? No, I was attending to my safety. I was got, I was going to hit by a fire truck. That's how they were kind of coming up on the sidewalk and stuff. It was pretty crazy situation.

I'm like, no, I'm going to pay attention to my surroundings and get the hell out of here. As opposed to, you know, backing away with my phone out. Well, I wonder if the phone and the screen in that living that virtual world, I wonder if it's removed us from the reality. Yeah, there's a visceral part of danger. You need to smell it, hear it, you know, feel it a little bit. You know, I always say like people drive their cars, you know, the windows are rolled up. It's quiet. It's comfortable.

it's it's it's noiseless it's smooth they don't they you get rocked into this sort of sense of not having to pilot that car when when we were young you drive the wind would be coming through that win wing on the side the wind wing they don't know what you're talking about by my car I mean would you know to win wing is Gary no he has no idea my mom would be driving a vW square back you know it's a stick shift You'd be having to constantly grab that next gear, you know, heading up the hill. Jifted and down in December. The wind wing was... It's part of the window.

Gary will know what it is when he sees it. Throw it up there. Any kind of vintage American car had the smaller window. Oh, yeah. It's how everyone broke into cars, basically. And the wind would just kind of kick through there and make a noise. and it was a way to get the wind to kind of blow in your face without having to roll the window down. But everybody would, you know, you'd hear the wind coming through there.

You'd feel, you'd smell the fuel. You'd hear the rattles every, every, every pothole you'd feel. I mean, you were engaged driving that car. Yeah. And there's a disengagement now. And looking at things through your camera, through your phone is a sort of disengagement. I agree. You're essentially watching. a show that you're not in, but you're right in the middle of it.

Yep, I agree. It is kind of a... It kind of makes it puts a sort of a veil of unreality upon it. Well, I think what it does is, is when you go to an aquarium, you're looking at a shark through the glass. Right. And you don't have a sense of impending doom or danger or threat or anything. Now, if you're in the tank, you'd have a completely different feet.

feeling. This is you in the tank, but looking through a piece of saran wrap at the shark. There's some sense of safety. Like, I'm on this side. I'm outside the glass. I'm outside on this saran wrap. But no, you're right in the middle of it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it felt like to me. 100%. That was it. And it was a towel. I mean, people are going to get hurt because of that in big events. Well, obviously people are falling off of cliffs now. No, but I mean. No, I don't mean that. I just mean they're already doing selfies and things where they're like falling off a cliff because they're not really there. Yeah. They're not having the relationship with danger.

And yeah, you and that and yes, dispersing. Also a total breakdown of rule of law, meaning whatever cops say, it's merely a suggestion, not to be followed. Well, that's generally the case these days, by the right. he loves what those land rovers loves old land rovers kind of question about old land rovers

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Hey, guys. So, I am into Land River Defenders, and I have some, and I have a ton of parts for them, a whole large room, and full of a lot of rare stuff and wheels and tires and huge thing, a snap on to pools. Yeah. I wonder, like, my kids, my boys may or may not be into this when I'm older, and I don't know what I'm going to do with all this stuff that is very expensive, but maybe not that valuable or easy to sell. And I'm curious, Adam, what your plan is if Sonny's not into race car parts like you,

like what you're going to do with all your crap. Well, maybe his boyfriend will like the cars. That's my new, that's plan B for me. You know my thing. I hope his bottom boyfriend, so I'm hoping for her, enjoys the old Dotson race cars, true.

I bet he would. I bet he would. Bet your bottom dollar. I don't know. I suspect Sonny doesn't care. I know Lynette and Italia don't care. So I do not know how this stuff works. I also know my.

My batting average for getting people into things that they should get into is 0.000. I've never successfully gotten people even marginally interested in things that, even things that benefit them, they still have no interest in. So I say you do for the love of the game. Do you know the defender, Drew? No. The defender, there's a, there's a whole kind of. kind of renaissance for like old Broncos. Is the defendant like the one looks kind of like a Jeep?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's a, there's a renaissance for, yeah, we're looking at a pretty tricked out. Yeah, yeah. We're looking at a fairly tricked out defender, but they have a few different versions of it. But there's a, there's a renaissance for old, you know what are expensive? Old Broncos, 50 grand now. Yeah, they're crazy.

Yeah. First gen, second gen are older, you know, late 60s or early 70s. Yeah, well, that's when it started to take a jump to shark. But the land rovers doing the same thing. So there is, and the old four-runners or four-wheeler Toyota. God, what are they called? Four-runners, four? Four-runners.

Yeah, they're four-runners. There's too many. What has that one got on this, it's exhaust on the side there with a? It's a snorkel so it can breathe when you go under it. stream. Oh, geez. Doesn't suck water in. Wow.

But there's also another defender that I'm not thinking of here that's more of an 80s job. Anyway, cool piece, unnecessary, but cool. And you have, and then what ends up happening is they have like original rims or the grill that was on the Defender XL that they only made in the UK and it's a hard part to find and they're expensive out here and you start collecting that stuff. That's what you just turned them on. Yeah, I found a rare set of ex-military tires in France, and I bought like 30 of them. Right.

And I have, you know, $800 tires, and I have huge stacks. And my wife thinks I'm insane. Right. New old stock, Drew. Yeah. New old stock. NOS. It's an interesting way to say this is old stock, but it's new.

I mean, it hasn't been used before. Wow. Yeah, NOS stuff. Look, I love that kind of stuff. I don't, I don't know about the kids. Look, you need room. You can't put the shit in your living room. It can't take over your life. You can't turn into a pack rat. You could get a thing like put a museum together like you did. Yeah, yeah. Everyone wants to see new old stock tires. I'm just saying if it's important to him. What I'm saying is is this. I don't mean a museum you visit. I mean just a warehouse. I don't know, Drew, if you have that thing.

I get it with guys with guitars, you know, who collect guitars. No, not the collection thing, but there is a thing where you're on eBay or you're on bring a trailer, like you're on some website, and you're looking for a specific, like this valve cover from this thing, and it's, the harder to find, the better. And then you come across, ooh, there it is. And it's out of the country. Right. And does a guy still have it and you want it?

So we actually have a biological system in our mid-brain stem that is called the seeking system. Mm. Where it's why we like fun. Ooh. You know who sung one of my favorite hits for my youth? Mm-hmm. Gary. The seeking system.

The seekers. Oh. Can you tell me what their number one hit was? Seekers. The seekers. Gary will find it. He'll wait on it. He'll wait.

He'll wait. He'll wait. Until I finish by. Now, their number one first hit. Go ahead. So anyway, it's a reward system, much like it's part of what people get into when they're seeking drugs. And it's why people like very treasure and archaeology. Well, I think we'll have that with pussy, right?

Absolutely. They have it with porn. We're trying to find the right picture and the right this. The seeking system is highly activated in pornography addiction. And it makes sense that the seeking system and some people is more powerful and you can get into this into the system. Is the seeking system called the Panskeep seeking system? Do you think the seeking system, the seekers? Number one hit 19.

Seeking system for pussy. What the fuck? Well, I'm trying to think. What were you thinking about? Well, no, I was thinking about drugs. No, hold on. Wait a minute. Wait, stop the train.

Hold the phone. Guys come into town. Oh, hunting. I got to cop some, I want to get some drugs. And now they leave and they're like, I got to leave my drugs behind. They show up to town and I'm like, I want some drugs. But they also have that with pussy. Where's the bar?

You know what I mean? By the way, that could be one stop shopping. You know what I mean? It's not like you got across the street. The alcohol is right there too. Right. It's there. So that feeling of like I want, now.

Now, I have that with cars. I have that with buildings. I have that stuff. I have that with cars. With wheels. Well, look, everyone has that with pussy a little bit. Everyone sort of has that with food. You know what I mean?

You drive in. You smell a barbecue place by the side of the road. I want some of that barbecue. Where's that coming from? You know. Seeking's a little different. That's more reward activation, like wanting. This is seeking.

Different than wanting. Seeking is the search. They're being turned down by the seeking. of it. Gary, the Seekers, nothing? Just the one. There was the one I showed you, and then the other one, the other two that I've seen so far that peaked at number one were... Oh, well, that's the... You're supposed to find the other ones that are number one. I just found them.

Oh, okay. We'll give you a minute. Put them on that. Write them on the screen. Mm-hmm. I don't know what that is. I've never heard of that song before. Yeah. That's the one?

You didn't get the name right, but yes, it is the... That is that song. Yeah, it's weird because now I would have thought of that as the number one Seekers song from like 1960. Sixty-eight. I'm trying to think. 67. All right. But that's, that charted higher, that charted higher than, I know.

All three of the ones I gave you charted number one. The first two were from 65. Oh, all right. Oh, yeah. You're going to hear it. Oh, all right. There's a big, big hit by The Seekers. The Seekers, Drew.

Mr. DJ. Do you know the Seekers? No. Well, maybe. I don't recognize the names of the songs, but maybe I do. Do a spot. Gary will find The Seekers. All right. This is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla show.

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It was from 1967 by The Seekers. I do know. I do know that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Swinging down the street so fancy free. Nobody you meet could ever see the loneliness there. Inside you.

Hey there, Georgie girl. Wasn't this in a movie or something? Probably. I just, I actually visualize orange and avocado brown. Burn orange and brown. You're always window shopping and never stopping to buy. Like olive. So get those downing feathers and fly a little bit.

Hey there, Georgie girl, there's another Georgie deep inside. Bring out all the love you hide. And oh, what a strange to be the world would see a new Georgie girl. Come on, timeless. Who is in the movie? Timeless. Gary, can you tell us who the stars were in that movie, Georgie Girl? Lynn Redgrave, James Mason, Alan Bates, Charlotte Rampling, Bill Owen.

So Lynn Redgrave with Georgia Girl. Hey there, Georgie Girl. Dreaming on a son what you could be. Life is a reality. You can't always run away. Don't be so scared of changing and reason. arranging your film It's time to

Jumping gone from the shelf A little big ending There's everybody now Georgie girl There's another Georgie deep inside Bring out all the love you hide And all what a change should be The world could see

A new Georgie girl Got Georgie girl Yeah I was like... Timeless, I tell you. You won't know what year that was made it. I thought it was Petula Clark or something. It's very Petula Clark-e sound.

Give us a little downtown Patula Clark, Gary. It's very downtowny. Hold on a second. They also had another U or there'll never be another U, which Gary pointed that out. It was another one of those kind of hits. It had some Mamas and Pappas to it. It had some Petula Clark, a little downtown to it. It had a like a lot of...

other elements to it. Who were in the seekers? Because somebody went off, somebody must have won off and had like a solo career or something because it's sound, it just has that. Although you guys should know that like, uh,

CBGBs was, oh God, it was, uh, grass. Let's see, it was like C, blue grass. It was like folk blue grass.

I mean, people don't realize that in the 60s was like, folk, country, C.B. Country bluegrass, folk. Like, CBGBs are like, you think of rock and roll and like, oh, the Ramones played CBGBs in Greenwich Village or whatever. It was folk. Country bluegrass, blues, and whatever, bluegrass. No, that's the second B.

Yeah, country bluegrass blues. Yeah. People don't realize how big folk was. What's Dylan came out of all. that. Yeah. Folk was huge in the in the 60s. It's kind of nice, kind of pure version of American music.

But then the Vietnam War thing screwed up folk music. Everyone just started freaking out and just going, screw it. We got to get to, you know, force shot in Ohio and all that stuff. Who was in the Seekers? In the beginning, it was Judith Durham, Keith Potker, Bruce Wood. Woodley and an anthal guy. No, don't know any of those guys. I can list you all the former members if you like.

Nah, I'm fine. Drew. Yeah. How about this? I'm going to float this one to you, speaking of folk, with the Mamas and the Pappas. Yeah. I think it was Papa John Phillips. Papa John Phillips was a junkie drug addict who sexually abused his daughter.

Well, he was accused by her as an adult as having a 10-year relationship. Adult style. She was still 8. 16 or something. No, no. They had an adult consensual sexual relationship. Right. Now, this is not the three-year-old slipping into the room. This is as adults.

As she was a teenager. I think she began when she was. was 19, Drew, so shut up. 19? 19. Isn't that a teenager? Began. I understand, but it was when she was a teenager.

I'm just saying. What is considered a minor and what is considered an adult in this country? Depends what you're talking about, but 18. What are you talking about? Okay. Guess what's one year more than 18? 19. Toward the adult.

All I'm saying is I'm saying she had an adult. She's a teenager. She's younger. She was younger. I'm trying to paint a horrific story, Drew. Please don't dump your flower on my horrific story. She had an adult consensual relationship with her biological dad that started at 19. It went for years.

As an adult, Drew, signing off on that. Okay. That guy was Papa John Phillips. Went on for 10 years. I think he also had done something to her when she was younger, too. I'm positive he did. Now, let me finish, Drew. Okay, go ahead.

Jesus, goddamn Christ. He had an adult consensual relationship. Well, you know what I'm reacting to is the whole idea of consensual. She wasn't in her mid-40s. Yeah, right. It's fine. It's fine. She was an adult.

I'm explaining my shit. Relax. Stop explaining your shit and start shutting up. She had a 10-year adult relationship sexually with her father, biological father. Yeah. that person, Papa John Phillips, has gotten less, has been less ostracized by our society than the Papa John pizza guy. Another Papa John. Right, of course.

Who was on the phone with like his management crisis team. And he basically said, Colonel Sanders used the N word. Why is everyone coming down on me? And then that person went and said, he dropped an end bomb. and now he's out. Is that the kind of balance you would like in our society? Papa John, any thoughts? Hey, if you're talking about Papa John Phillips, no thoughts.

You're talking about Tabapajon. Pizza, but I got a problem with that dude. Out, out. Out, I tell you. The guy who had consensual sex for a decade with his adult daughter, we cannot judge. You know what's weird is you're talking about it. We have to talk about this tomorrow.

We'll talk about tomorrow. We'll talk about why you're trying to jump in on my stupid point. I was making the whole time. It's fine. It's not fine. I'm making the point. You're like relentlessly watering it down. A teenager.

Come on now. It's a grotesque thing he did. I'm trying to make a point. I get it. The older she gets, the weirder it gets. And you're trying to push her younger. And I'm trying to underscore how bizarre. Yes, it was bizarre.

And grotesque this. says. Okay. Now, where was I? Do you have the Seekers other hit? I'll never be a downtown, but two o'clock. There'll never be another you. I say, Gary, either they covered or somebody, someone must have covered them in that song. If they did it in 65, I say somebody covered them and had a bigger hit with it. They did it in 64. Then somebody covered it some British invasion type band and then had a bigger hit with it. So, Gary, somebody must have covered that. They did.

We can, I have both versions ready. You want to open tomorrow with that? We'll open tomorrow because that's, that's a hot tease. It's a hot tease. It gets you coming back. For all the young kids going, you know, I like podcasting. Big Beef, not enough seekers talk. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Well, we're, we're correcting that. We're going to scratch that itch. So the Seekers had never be another U was a hot. That wasn't a big hit, but then four or five years later, somebody else covered it and was a big hit. I'll never find another U. And I was in 64. What am I saying?

They'll never be another. I'll never find another U. And the cover, Altis, was in 67. All right. Podcast one until next time. Adam Krover, Dr. Grun-Saint. Mahalo. At first, I didn't think it was real.

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