The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1190 The Poop Bucket

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Nov 18, 2019Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing cartoonist Scott Adams and his new book 'Loserthink' which is all about the act of persuasion. They also discuss the lack of fear that exists in the newest generation of adults and how that is manifesting itself in various ways in society & culture. Later the conversation turns to the uptick in random homeless attacks and Adam recounts an attack of his own that was perpetrated against him in his construction days.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. The Aga-G-G-G-Durbanic. Dr. Drew is a bird. Searchified physician. He's also known about indiscuous. And with the ladies as well.

What's going on, Drewski? So you had my friend Scott Adams in here. Yeah. Interesting, dude. I see the Loser Think book up there. Yeah, the book, yeah. Loser Think. I was hoping to come on ACS and talk about this, but let's talk about it here.

Okay. And that is that I come from this world, you know, my, I'm a biologist, right? It's my training is you convince people with the elegance of your experiment, the compelling data you've accumulated, and the clarity of your argument and logic. And that's it. That's how you convince people. I had never been exposed to persuasion until long before other people found Scott Adams. I found him on some podcast. I was like, what?

That's like manipulating, right? And no, it turns out there's a whole like science to persuading human beings. Right. Loser thinks all about that. Well, I've been, I'll tell you what I've been thinking about a lot lately because I've been out doing no safe spaces and everyone's asking me the same questions. It's like, how do we get here? What's going on? What's going on on these college campuses?

And something you and I speak about a lot, the self-esteem movement. And I was like, I think we're here because of the self-esteem movement. I had a weird insight, though. Let me modify that if you don't mind. Go ahead. And that is, I, somebody else, Bob Forrest, Bob Forrest, you know, the guy with the glasses and the hat that I do something we have with, and they sometimes do the podcast with You Live. and he has given up on treating younger drug addicts, meaning teen 20s, early 30s.

Why? Why do you ask? Because they don't perceive hierarchies. And therefore, he as a clinician or his life experience or the physicians he works with have no impact. They don't register with these young people, especially when they're addicts. And I thought to myself, and this is the part, you and I have talked about this before, but there's a part that I suddenly occurred to me. I remember when my kids were young, like sort of third grade to fifth grade age, going, yeah, these kids, this age, this group, they go to adults as though they're a resource.

They go to them for questions, and they go right up to them, and they have no problem asking them questions and asking them for help. And I thought, this is such a positive thing. No, no, I don't think they even perceived them as adults. Yes. You know what I mean? They were just sort of objects for their. utility. And there was no like the reason they could go so easily up to us is we didn't, we were sort of probably youth preoccupied ourselves, right? We weren't being adults the way we should,

which is really a problem on college campuses. They're not being adults, the administrators. We probably had a bit of that in our parenting style. And so, yeah, there was nothing there to respect. They just came to us as just another object in their environment for their benefit. Well, I think we can also blame Madison Avenue. When Madison Avenue started going after the coveted, you know, 18 to 24 time slot or demo, we all started realizing we wanted to be 18 to 24 too and telling people what to do and being an authoritative figure isn't really being young. It's being old. You know, it was a tacit agreement between the young people didn't want authority and we didn't want to act old and provide authority.

So there was. Now I'm realizing when I tell people, hey, clean your office, I'm just an old guy standing in a threshold of a doorway saying clean your office. There's no reason to do it. Old guy, when we were young, at least met, hey, man, respect your elder. Now it's a big knock down. Yeah. Now it's your, you're like irrelevant. It means irrelevant.

It means maybe I'll clean my office, but I probably won't. and it's not going to be based on whatever you say. When I, you know, told my 19-year-old nephew, hey, clean out the front of the shop, the flower bed. I got a heavy hitter coming in tomorrow. It's like, you never did it. And when I talked, I was like, yeah, I spaced out. And the thing that's, I'll tell you the thing that's interesting about all this stuff. When I would say clean your office and they wouldn't clean the office and then I would tell them again to clean the office, it's not like they cleaned it the second time.

They just would never do it. And when I told my nephew, hey, never cleaned out the front of the flower bed in front of the shop. He goes, yeah, I had a brain fart. It's not like he walked past me and grabbed a rake and a broom and then went and did it. He just walked past me and said, I had a brain fart. Yeah, I spaced out. And then I had to stop and we go like an hour later. I was like, you know you still have to go out and do that, right?

And he's like, what? Like this is where it's now crossed into, you know, those. It's like you don't even, like you're not even there. You're sort of relevant. In all those movies, when the world's going to end because of climate change. Yeah. And they go like, Dr. Monroe, but your predictions were over 300 years. And he goes, I was way off.

It's Wednesday. We have 48 hours. Like, it's that moment, like when you realize, oh, they're never going to do this or they're not going to do it. Or just because they whiffed it the first time. I was way off. I was way off. But is it not the case that what's absent is fear? Yes, 100%.

Yeah, because when you and I were kids, an old man Johnson said, hey, man, you didn't rake my art. He said, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, but the absence of fear and then in its vacuum, super high self-esteem because I was thinking to myself, what could get a bunch of people on campus, a bunch of 19-year-olds to go? That person is not allowed to come to the,

this campus while I'm here and share ideas. It's just a, it's super high self-esteem. Because you're giving me a look, and the look you're giving is, is you didn't know that was an option of things you could do when you were 19. Never. You didn't know you could sit in an office when you were a 19 and have somebody tell you to clean the office who owned the building and you're, you had an option. That box was never going to do it.

Like, did you know? that was an option when you were 19? I did not know. By the way, I still don't know. While you were telling me to do whatever it is you were telling me to do it, I would start doing it before you got to the end of whatever you wanted me to do. I would imagine so.

Like if you said, I want you to go out to my pickup truck and go to the bed of the truck. You'd be talking to my back because I'd be walking out to your pickup truck. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know there'd be the, I'm not going to look up from my computer screen. As an option. So you wouldn't have known as a 19-year-old at Amherst if so-and-so was coming to speak, then so-and-so is coming to speak because that's what people do. Either wanted to see them or not wanted to see them.

It's either go or not go. You would have never entertained the notion of stopping them from speaking, right? Not an option. Not an option. Not on the list. It wouldn't even been something you had to prevent yourself from doing because it wasn't an option. It was not a thought that could possibly have occurred to me. Right.

But. Nor was it an option to go up and crap on the stage when he was, you know what I mean? It's like just that just dot even like. Well, first things first, it had nothing to do with you. Right. It was none of your fucking business. Either the person you treated it like a band. It was either band you wanted to see Scotty Snoddy and the Hankies.

How'd you know? Or it was a band you didn't want to see. who performed at my prom. I know. My point is this. That's how you treat it. It's like, oh, I'd like to go see this or I'm not. And it has nothing to do with me.

Think about, now I always say my latest, you know, five years, all roads lead to narcissism. That's everything. Everything we're trying to explain anything like, why would this happen or why would they do that? Why would this? It all just goes to narcissistic. It's like a narcissism is the hub and the spokes just go out. But the self-esteem movement, which. we thought was going to be fantastic for everybody.

It turns out it's okay if you're alone on a bus. But when you're sharing a college campus, it's not a good thing. No. Because you shouldn't even have thoughts about preventing people from speaking. And that is a high self-esteem. By the way, you don't own the college or the campus. You're just kind of renting it for four years and hanging out. I didn't even have that level of sense.

of my belonging there. I was sort of like a servant. I was like a surf. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I never, I, my feeling, I never went to college. I told you, I told you, they were going for, I know this, I know it. Still, there was a 19th century sort of left over something there.

And they were going for monastery meets prison. That's what they were going for. And delivered, by the way. Delivered both quite nicely. Yeah, and I was just on a construction site, and if anyone told me getting a hole or get on the roof or go to my truck, I told that a foreman who told me to go to his truck, and I started going to his truck, and he just went, run. I just started running, because that's what he told me to do, because he was the foreman. Yeah. And then I was the guy, I was the labor.

Yeah. So that was our hierarchy back then. but maybe I could learn something from him and maybe I could get paid more money. Right. Or I could tell him to talk to the hand, old man. Well, if you don't perceive hierarchies, why would you think you could have anything to gain from him?

There's nothing to gain from a non... You don't understand he's moved up a hierarchy for any reason because there's no hierarchy. Well, it's an interesting thing in a little experiment. Oh, by the way. There's a great... There's two clips you can ask Max Bata. There's the one in kid telling them like, shut up, bitch.

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Stream now, pay never. Talking about hierarchy, and it's funny, there was a video that was making the rounds, black guys eating a sandwich at a bart station standing on the deck, cop, you know, telling him to get off the deck. There's no eating on the deck or whatever. And everything I saw about it was just, what's his cop hassling this dude for? He's eating a sandwich.

So what? Who cares? Let the brother eat a sandwich, blah, blah, blah. And I completely agree with that. But the thing that strikes me as an old guy who's in hierarchy is... Into hierarchy. The cop, you know, like the 22nd time the guy says, hey man, put the sandwich down there. He's going, he's like, fuck you.

Like to the cop. And that's the part that strikes me. Now, here's what I'm saying in my little sociological experiment. Nobody else's experiences, why is he telling the cop to fuck off? Their experiences is why is the cop bothering him with his sandwich, which is true. Right. But what I'm saying is true, too. Why are you telling the guy with the gun and the badge to go fuck himself?

Like he's talking to him. But that may be another part of this whole phenomenon. Yes, that's exactly what we're. Which is anybody in any kind of authority, particularly real authority, those ones you really stand up to. If you listen to this conversation and bring yourself back to being 15 and close your eyes and go, he's talking to a cop. You're not a on bar. I least explained to you is that you were detained. Did I not?

You are detained and you're not to go. That's what. You single me out of all these people. You're eating. So what? It's against the law. So what? I tried to explain that to you.

It's a violation. It's a point of law. I have the right to detain you. No, you don't. Yes, I do. Please let my backhand go. Are you going to cooperate? Are you cooperating?

Are you cooperating to leave me the law? You didn't go into jail. I'm not. I'm going to jail for any of a family? No, for resisting arrest. I'm not resisting arrest. You are resisting right now. I haven't done nothing wrong.

I've got nothing wrong. I've got nothing wrong. Let my bad go. Just what? Let my bad go, bro. What are you, bro? What is it doing, bro? Yeah, I'm just saying.

See, everyone else sees this, why is he bugging him for her sandwich? And I'm like, why isn't just listen to what the cop says? Yeah. That's old guy, I think. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Can you imagine? No. Talking to a cop that way? No. Now look, the cop's being a dick. Don't get me wrong. That's how it works. It's always worked that way.

But I'm saying that's a breakdown. That's a 22-year-old guy talking to a guy with a gun and a badge. She's duly sworn in as a cop going, oh, bro, fuck off. I mean, that wasn't even outrageous. It was just like, fuck off. Look, I'm going to arrest you. No, you're fucking not.

It's weird, right? Do you understand this? Again, the cop, here's the old thing. Let's just break this down. The cop should not be bothering citizens who are eating breakfast sandwiches on a mass transit platform. Was that the law he broke or something? I evidently went up to him because he was eating in a place where he wasn't supposed to be eating. It is illegal to eat.

on any BART train or at any BART station because they're trying to keep the cars clean. Okay. That must happen all the fucking time. Okay, so he's, you know, look, he didn't just rob a bank. Yeah. And I'm not arguing that side of the story. Anyone who knows cops will pull you over for like, you know,

illegal tint, Gary on your BMW or not having a front license plate. Look, three quarters, nay, 15, 16. of what cops do on a daily basis falls under the heading of who cares chicken shit, right? And so, you know, when you were growing up, when I was growing up, you drink at a beer on the beach and the cop comes by and he goes, hey, man, you're not allowed to have an open container on the beach. And then you go, I just open it. And they go, buddy, you got to dump it out.

And you just dump it into the sand. That was as far as the resistance would go. Many times you just dump it. Well, that's what he tell you to dump it. No, the resistance would be you taking two big swigs and then dumping it, right? But you didn't tell him to fuck off. No. Or like, what are you doing?

I'm just drinking a beer. Like, whatever it was. What do you think you are? Right. So what I'm seeing there is it's not what he's doing. He's a 22-year-old dude. It's the way people are reacting. Like, leave the dude alone.

He's having a sandwich. Like, you wouldn't have processed it that way. You would have processed it is. Cops are doing their chicken shit stuff. now throw the sandwich away or leave or walk off the station and don't stand on the platform. You know, you would have just taken the sandwich and walked inside with it or something, right? It's how people are perceiving it. Even then that was considered sort of resistance.

What? Not 20 years before that, it would have been, yes, sir, I'm so sorry. And just immediate cooperation. We were sort of the first step in this resistance. Yeah, like, you know, there's a sort of a, there's a sort of no smoking here and you take two more draws off it and then you put it out. Right. But it's kind of new world order when it comes to the hierarchy, Drew. The lack of hierarchy.

The lack of hierarchy, right? Yes. All right. You don't need to do that. Okay. Okay. What else? Well, along those same lines, I don't know if you saw there's, we have a local,

news organization here, NBC4, and there's one reporter there that's been really on this homeless thing. And he apparently has been a real serious uptick and just random violence from homelessness. Got to. Can go no other way, right? Right, because they're getting sick and worse and more and more ill. But did you see the one woman who was sobbing on NBC last night because a guy walked up to and poured a bucket of diarrhea over her? Yeah. It was funny. I saw that start of the day and I was like, I don't know how many folks reading this story could really identify with what she's going through. Like, you guys can visually, but you can't relive it. Her pain.

You can't feel her pain. And then I thought to myself, Adam, you simply had fecal matter mashed into the side of your head and ear area. And it was solid. It was solid. Mostly solid stool. But fresh. It was from Ray, right? It was either from Ray or Chris.

It was un—to be fair, I think one animal has defecated into the other animal's hand, and that's what they mashed into my head. Yes, but there may have been a transfer. There might have been a transfer of said stool. What's that mean? Well, from one animal may have received it from the anus and then handed it to the other animal. Could have happened. I think the hand was lined with a paper towel, defecated into, and then I was,

mash into the side of my head. Left hand, right hand? Whatever hand he threw a ball with. So I was, would have been right. So as I was hearing this woman's story of having diarrhea dumped on her head, I thought, that's a five. I feel you. I've been there.

We've all been there. Have we all been there? It's just us. We're in some elite fraternity that fecal matter mash in our heads. You know what I mean? And I don't, look, there's never a good place to have fecal matter massing your head. but on campus during school hours, not optimal. And I would argue the external auditory canal, the earhole, not good.

Especially in trying to run down the assailant or the perp. Perp, yeah. Because your equilibrium, we've thrown off a little bit. I found myself. And you're hearing because that throws the equilibrium off too. I was standing in the middle of quad with poop stuffed in my ear. And I was like, man, my shower's a long way. Like where would my local where how would I remedy this?

Like it's this is well beyond the drinking fountain. I'm not going to be able to do this with like a wet wipe or anything like that. I need to get home. I need to get inside of a shower. You have to scale a fence to do that. Oh my God. You want to know like when they talk about the mothers with the strength to lift their lift the station wagon off their infant.

I started running for the fence for the school. parking lot. It wasn't a high fence. It was about six foot fence and there's a security guard there and I was coming at him. Full stride. And there's something you guys, there's something you don't know about your boss. When I played football, I could move. I was big and I could move. I was never a sprint darves, never a straight line, you know, 100 yard dash guy, but I ran backwards as fast as I ran forward. I set the time in the pylon drill, the shuttle drill. I ran the bleachers faster than anybody. I could move my feet.

Who were you avoiding here? I was coming at the fence and the security guard was just standing right there. Like he was like, hey, man, you're not. I was just coming at him, like, at a full clip. And I just went right by him and just sort of got airborne, hit the top of the fence. Had like both feet flying over at the same time. Hit the ground, like still in stride. Sprinted all the way home, busted in the house, jumped into the shower.

I don't think I even took my shirt off. She went right into the shower. I thought home was right across the street. Yeah, I had to go across two streets. I had to go about three blocks. Okay, okay. All right, do your spot. For over 25 years, Bet Online has been one of the most trusted names in online sports and casino gaming.

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She was in her car and they opened the car door, pulled her out. The person. Yeah. I don't know the job. gender, so whatever. But apparently the first responders said that the amount indicated that they had been storing it up for probably about a month. Well, that's schizophrenia.

Well, schizophrenics will hoard their poo. Oh, I used to work earthquake rehab. One of the guys in units stored his poo. Oh, interesting. Yeah, they put the bucket by my table saw. Why? They took the bucket. They?

Well, the guys, the fellas I work with. The friends, so-called. I was in the back. These old buildings, these old brick buildings that are on like Normandy off of Wilshire, you know, they're all built in the 30s. They all needed to be earthquake rehab. They're all laid out the same. They have, they go straight up. There's no property.

There's a little dog run on the right and a little dog run on the left. And then houses are the offices? What were they? These are big brick buildings, apartment buildings. Come on. Yeah. Now what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The back has almost no space, just like a close line. Yeah. And then the next building. Yeah, yeah. They literally like an eight foot back. It's like the footprint of the property is almost exact size as the actual, the buildings, the same size of the property. They have a little way in the back and a little along the side.

These are sort of two-story thing? No, they're like five. Five stories. Ooh. Come on, Drew. I'll tell you, see earthquake rehab. No, no, I know. Big buildings.

Everything needed to be rehab at one time. Multi-unit buildings. Okay, multi-unit. Got it. They took the poop bucket, and I was set up in the back. That's where my contractor saw. My table saw was set up, and I was set up in the back with my wood, and I was milling wood all the time, trying to repair all the stuff we tore apart to rehab the building, and then we'd have to put it all back together.

Rehab, you sort of putting these struts in there and sort of what you guys were doing? you see the outside of the building and you see those square plates out there the square plates are attached to all thread which is just what it is it's a rod that's all thread that go to the inside of the building they physically weld it to a continuous strap that goes all the way around the perimeter of each floor against the outside wall even through to the next unit everything else lag bolt down to the Joyce, welded on the inside. Then I had to build a baseboard

that was like a box that would go around it because you couldn't just put a baseboard back. It was on the floor of steel rod and blah, blah, blah, blah. Continuous strap, but they just take a big strap, bolt it to every single floor, tie it to the outside of the building with this all thread and these sheer anchors, our tension anchors.

I can't remember which one. The plates on the outside of the end. They tie the whole thing together. I can't imagine that's really, going to hold a brick building together? Well, it's a fuck of a lot better than what they have. What they have is all every floor sits on the next course of bricks that goes up. It's just gravity.

It's just sitting there. No straps, no bolts, no, nothing. It literally goes up, makes a curb, you know, starts out five courses wide of brick at the bottom, goes up to two courses at the top. Every time they step in, new floor. Sheesh. Just a little tremor that would slip right off. But it made it from the 30s, you know. Anyway, they took the bucket, took the poop bucket, put it right by me in the saw, camouflaged it, you know, hit it under a little, put a little plywood up against it so I couldn't see it.

They all got up on the roof. On the roof, well, everywhere, we had the bolts. The bolts went to the all thread with the plates on the outside of the buildings. That had a bucket of bolts. And they leaned over the back of the building. The back of the building was just a sheer brick wall five stories high. There's no backyard. Yeah.

If I wanted to look up, I'd just look straight up. I was standing at the bottom of it. And they would lean over. And every time I fired up the saw, they knew I couldn't hear anything. And they'd drop a bolt into the poop bucket. And when they drop it into the poop bucket, they'd see me stop and look around. Like, who farted? Like, what happened?

Like, where's this coming from? You know, and I'd shut the saw and I'd be like looking and looking to my right, looking behind me. And there was nothing there. I'd fire up the saw again. and then they'd lean over and drop another bolt into the... Pretty good. But the fella... Pretty good, yeah?

The fellow did keep a bucket. The gentleman. The gentleman kept a fella. Fella kept a bucket. Yeah, bucket O'Poo. So this is going to happen. It's going to happen more and more. Yeah, there's more violence, more aggression, more wildness,

because these are illnesses that progress. They really progress. And we're leaving them to deteriorate. Yeah. The theme that I think we're stumbling into is if the parents aren't going to parent and the police aren't going to police and the mayor is not going to mayor, then we're in trouble. When we stop, we've decided that people that are enforcing the law are keeping the peace or the problematic people now, we're heading for an issue. I'll tell you where the issue is probably going to happen. is in infectious diseases.

Because we've known since the 11th century how people need to live together in a congregated environment. Well, if you're not doing anything, infectious diseases are going to start breaking out. Bad, bad, bad, bad. All the rodent-borne stuff, all the viruses, it's coming.

It's coming. I got something for you next show. I don't want to talk about it. I got some chick-think stuff that you're going to find interesting. I want to talk more Scott Adams, Until next time, I'm Pearl for Dr. Hussain. Mahalo. And welcome to Pluto Fo. If you knew the name of the movie you'd like to see,

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