The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1202: Mike Lynch

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

December 8, 2019 - Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing Drew’s recent viewing of Adam’s ‘Shelby American’ documentary and his feelings on the film. This leads the guys to a larg...er conversation about the life of Carroll Shelby and the accomplishments that punctuated his life. The guys then welcome in Mike Lynch to discuss the new practice that he recently opened in the New England area and Mike sits in as the guys take some listener phone calls on a variety of topics.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.ca slash Wondery. That's audible.com.C.A. slash Wondery. Ready for throwback, episode 1202 with Mike Lynch. We talk about viewing Adams Shelby American documentary and his feelings on the film and mine. We have a big conversation about Carol Shelby and his accomplishments and also how this California used to be the place to come to do things like what Shelby did. And we welcome Mike Lynch to discuss new practice. He recently opened in New England. Mike sits in as we take some listen to phone calls as well. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get on. I got to get on. I'm going to have that. Drew with that's a specialist. over there, well, I got to you. And I'm a magic man. Oh, yeah? I want to thank all our sponsors, Manscaped, and Bettya Sign, Lifelong, and Politov, TV as well.
Starting point is 00:01:13 And I find myself looking forward to seeing Dr. Drew in these troubled times. What has happened between us? Love is bloomed. Yes, reunited. All right, fuck it. Are you ready? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You ready? I'm ready. That goddamn show. I'll be documentary. So good. Really? I'm like emotional. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:01:37 It's so goddamn. It's like life changing. I'm laughing because I talked to my mom on Thanksgiving and she said, what are you doing? And I said, I'm making documentaries about cars. And she's like, well, she literally said, tell me when you make one on a subject I'm interested in. I saw you tweeted that. It took me down a notch. It really took me down.
Starting point is 00:01:57 But it spoke volumes. volumes about what you're contending with. Well, also... Tell you're going to do it on muffins and doilings. I was laughing. I was laughing. Well, it's so insane. It's a story.
Starting point is 00:02:10 It's maybe one of the greatest Americans that ever lived kind of a thing. Just a purely American narrative. Yes. It's a narrative. It's a effing love letter you wrote to the guy, too, by the way. I thought it was just... I know how you feel about his stuff. we've talked about enough over the years
Starting point is 00:02:29 that I could just tell what you were feeling as you put the thing together. Well, look, here's my Shelby thing. Shelby's been married quite a few times. That part was funny, by the way. It was screwed over a couple of guys who I like. Now, this isn't an interesting thing. Pete Brock is a guy that I'm a very dear fan of,
Starting point is 00:02:50 and I own many of his cars, and I've been to his home a few times. We have a great relationship, and he's just a sweet guy, you know what I mean? You could tell. They're guys that are just sweet guys. And I would argue the sort of best supporting character is him. He's a sweet.
Starting point is 00:03:07 He's a sweet guy. Normally guys who get involved with cars and racing and stuff, they have a little bit of an edge to them because that's what you have to. You have to be competitive. You have to be whatever. Pete's a sweet guy. Shelby jacked over Pete. Not without like Ford helping. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Well, well, here's the thing. There was, well, no, this was Toyota. This was later on. This is later on. Well, no, no, wait a whole second. The Toyota thing is where Pete Brock destroyed Shelby. That's where he got back at him. Yeah, but he was supposed to run the Toyota team.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Right, right, right. And Shelby kind of slid in and took it from it. Yes, yes, that's right. I forgot. I have talked to Pete Brock. I've talked to many people about Shelby. And you tell me, their thing is, is I like Dan Gurney. He was like, he wasn't overburdened with a great deal of honesty.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yes, yes. Overburdened with a great. Dan Gurney literally like 83 and a half, you know, a year and a half before he died. It's like, he wasn't overburdened with a great deal of honesty. Where did you get all those interviews? You've been collecting them for a while? We went out and we got Dan Gurney. Before he died.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Before he died. And I sat down with him for a couple, you know, Nate's in the next room, but for maybe two hours. I talked to him about everything. And we went out with talk to guys like, you know, these guys like Bob Bonderon, Parnelli Jones, Dan Gurney. I mean, they're legends of the sport and they're not going to be around that much long. at all. They're older, they're sickly. Some of them have died along the way. A few of the people in the dock you're seeing talking of past since, right, who we interviewed. So it's an interesting thing. So Pete Brock is a very, he's a lovely man. Yeah, you get it. Describe him as a lovely man.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And by the way, he had some very kind things to say about Shelby in the early years. And he was jacked a little bit by Shelby he feel like he kind of went and got him back a little bit and when you so there were many people that got duped a little by Shelby but they still felt kind they felt good about him
Starting point is 00:05:34 and I'm interested in how that works my as I was watching it I thought oh the guy's a little bit of a sociopath you know he has nine wives some of them weren't even married right it's just like and by the way back then why do you think he did that oh think about that yeah I mean he didn't want to give up no no no no no back then you couldn't have sex if he weren't married oh that's true so if he
Starting point is 00:06:01 wanted to have sex all those hot well I got to marry him I mean please pretend to marry him is what are you do it's got to do it right and because he was kind of a sociopath just like okay we got to do right and he was a salesman they emphasized that over and over and over again right and so he wasn't steering with a clear compass. He was steering with a eye towards getting it done. And because he was a lot of fun and engaging
Starting point is 00:06:26 charismatic kind of he was not a full-on sociopath. He just had these kinds of tendencies. He's also very entertaining and fun and he had to create a great work environment. And be like a mask hat, like a clear
Starting point is 00:06:41 the guy in the head of the ship going forward. This is where we're going. Let's go, gentlemen. Let's have at it. And then let them have fun with it. Yeah. There is no, like the car themselves, I'm going to make an analogy here. There's really no such thing as a Shelby that is free and clear of a handful of negative traits.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It doesn't exist. It's like there's no such thing as building a Shelby Cobra that doesn't pollute. a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, it's amazing, but what comes out of that exhaust? Well, yeah, you see that. He complained later about that. Like, I don't know what I'm saying. We had to clean it up. There's like no free meals. You don't get the Shelby and the no exhaust. You don't get a Carol Shelby and a couple of women who don't have broken hearts and a couple of business partners that feel like they got screwed or he did them. You don't get all of that with nothing in its wake. Now, you can live my mom's life or my dad's life and leave none
Starting point is 00:07:45 of that and it's weight, but there is no car named after my dad. It's impossible. You know what I mean? But it's like you can't have a world war without a bunch of civilian casualties. And you can beat up the country that bombed Dresden. But you got to go, yeah, that's a war. That's what happens. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:05 And so Shelby was very much that way. I feel like there were some women. There were some partners. There were some something. But overall, were we glad he was born? Yeah. Are we glad that we know the name Carol Shelton? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Oh, no. Oh, yeah. And that's why I'm saying it wasn't a complete sociopathic. It wasn't a despicable character by any means. But he was, man, he could get stuff done. He could get stuff done. Right? That's exactly what he did.
Starting point is 00:08:36 He got stuff done. He surrounded himself with world-class fabricators and people. and then he won about it. But to me, I thought it, I didn't know the second, third, and fourth chapters of the whole thing. That was astonishing to me, the chili and the Dotsons and the, it just kept going. It was like, this guy just would just move on and get it done. Heart transplant. Heart transplant in the middle of it all.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You know, I thought a part you didn't put in the story that you might appreciate is I was thinking to myself, what happens with some of these people with, he probably had familial hyperclosteronemy or something like that, it caused a premature aging of the cordonary arteries. If you increase, if you stress the oxygen demands of the heart such that it's asking for more oxygen, but not so much that you cause a heart attack, you outstrip its demand, it creates extra vessels. And so probably the way he handles his heart disease or stressing it, pushing it, pushing it, collateralized all the vessels. So even though he was getting a little heart attacks, he had all these other vessels to back him up.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Does that make sense? Yeah. And so it's really interesting that he made it through. That's why he lived so much longer than he should have. Yeah. Well, and he got a heart transplant. And then, well, then what happens is eventually the muscle gives out. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And then you need the transplant. Yeah, my feeling is it's all here. As I've said to you, it's comical that he came from Texas to Venice so he could do his thing. Yeah. That's the part I was. That's comical. And now. It was not comical.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Well, not comical. Yeah. Yeah. Funny Valentine. It's funny you and I talk about it. When I watched it in the movie, it pissed me off. Right. It got you angry. But the things that guy was able to do, and really another reason is, is he wasn't regulated. He could do things because there wasn't overregulation.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Right. It would be impossible to do what he wanted to do today in any state. And what's also interesting to me, and you'll appreciate this, as a young male growing, up in Southern California in the 60s, that was sort of the culture we were attuned to as kids. You know, we all knew about it. We all kind of, you know, the Lamont movie came out. Drag racing was a big thing of discussion amongst nine to 12 year old boys.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You know what I mean? And so this all was happening. It was deeply culturally meaningful for me as something that I felt like was happening in the background while I was growing up and kind of it made perfect sense to me that that was going on. in the world I lived in as a young adolescent. Well, I was a young boy with my dad, dragging me to Riverside for the road races and then Pomona for the quarter mile stuff. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Orange County Raceway? Oh, CIR. Lions in Long Beach. I was like on my dad's shoulders watching those flat track bikes go around. It all brought a rush of memories came back. I used to watch commercials for all those places. So that's what I definitely remember. Sunday, Sunday.
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Starting point is 00:12:47 It's only a game until you bet it. Bet D.S.I. Mike Lynch in studio. Everyone loves Mike Lynch. Flash from the past. Mike is finally licensed and scrapped and official, Drew. And he's ready to go. And I'll give his website out right now.
Starting point is 00:13:06 mc dash n e.com he is overqualified for your problems and uh he's really good at what he does he does a very there's uh there's a few people who i speak to about these subjects and when i do like dr drew when i find someone who's who's likes to talk the mind and and is good at it i always get into it and lynch and i find ourselves doing that quite a bit so yeah mc n e by the way drew is for Men's Center, New England, because that's my therapeutic passion working with guys. Man, how did you get down that path? Actually, you had him on your show once. Dr. Stephen Johnson did Men's Center Los Angeles, and I went to all their retreats.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I was his intern for a brief period, and it changed my life, so I figured I'd carry that forward back to New England where I came from. Nice. And so are you dealing with younger man? Do you mind if I ask him? No. Let me ask this one question. How does the landscape look differently to you?
Starting point is 00:14:06 you now than when you sat back there and told me I'm moving to New England. And I was like, what? And you, to do this. And now you're doing it. Yeah. What is that Mike Lynch versus this Mike Lynch? Oh, how I changed. Well, I was thinking. Well, not how you changed, but how you use few things now. Well, the human condition. The landscape is different in this sense, California versus Massachusetts. No, the human condition. Now that you've sort of, Drew's bringing it deep. Yeah, because back then you were like, I thought, you thought you understood the human condition. Now you're working with it. Has it changed your view of, I guess it's going to be particularly bad.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, no, I mean, the conversation Adam and I have been having is about how much has changed possible? You know, when you think about that zero to six period of your life where, you know, the schemas are getting built in. Yep. How is it, you know, can people change that? And science of neuroplasticity, of course, it's possible. But then we have so many anecdotal examples in all of our lives are people who are like, come on, what's wrong? Why aren't you doing this? Like domestic violence is an issue that I particularly don't like working with because it's just so intractable. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:11 For some reason, that's more intractable than addiction in some ways, even though it is an addiction. Some ways. That person's life is the perpetrator is not being endangered by it. So unless his freedom is being challenged, then sometimes they're willing to do something. Right. So, you know, it's that balance of how do you maintain hope, I think, is, you know, the longer you're in this field. Well, I'm about you, but sometimes I see, you know, oftentimes people I would not get of a prayer to massively transform. And you see a couple of those.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And you're like, okay, okay, it's possible for anybody. Yeah, I think it's, you know, it's, I think of it like kind of, you know, batting average. You're not going to get it 100% of the time. But every now and again, there's that grand slam. We're like, oh, you know, I get off on the light bulb moments. The moment where somebody goes, oh, that's why I'm doing that, you know. And as, you know, many people know, the reason I'm a therapist is because I had good therapy, you know, and I use that self-disclosure. That's my opening salvo. That's my weapon. And so I do that, especially with men, to normalize level of playing field. And you see their body posture, they'll physically go, ah, and they'll sink into the chair when they hear that. So, you know, I'll tell them, you know, crippling panic attacks and I had good therapy and blah, blah, and I'm going to teach you things that I practiced myself on. daily basis. And so, you know, that part of it, that connection, but that, that light bulb
Starting point is 00:16:41 moment, that's, that's what keeps me going back into the room. I get that. All right. We can take a call, then you guys can just argue over whether I have Asperger syndrome or you do not. Drew says yes. Nope. I know what you have. Steve, what do you have? Reactive attachment. Reactive attachment syndrome. For sure. Yeah, for sure. Steve 34 out the Dina? Hi, guy. Hi, guy. Uh-oh, I'm having a reaction.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I think my dad lives in Altadena. See? See? I'm having a reaction. Go ahead. I'm sorry for that. I'm in Atlanta, so don't worry. Oh, I thought it's at Altadena.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Sorry. My glasses are fine. No worries. No worries. Go ahead. Mike, you got to tell the guys about how awesome the Big E is. I'm a transplant from New England. I hope you attended the Big E Festival while you went back home for a bit.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I did not, but I had some relatives there. Maybe got taken out. A lot of beer. It's a better version of whatever L.A. does for a fair. You have to be a jogger load to go? Do you have a vaping question? I do. So I've been trying to, I don't smoke, and I don't really, you know, do any vaping or any
Starting point is 00:17:47 sorts of cigarettes like that. But I've always listened to Drew when it comes to the vaping crisis, if you will, about how people say that vaping is as bad or worse than cigarette smoking. And I take my, you know, hints from Dr. Drew to say that it's not great, Vaping isn't, but it's better than cigarettes. A thousand times. Yeah, so much better. Like, ridiculously, but I cannot more aggressively enough get people off cigarettes onto vaping.
Starting point is 00:18:12 But there was this thing of, what, maybe six weeks ago, where magically all these people started dying at the same time, and it was this strange, you know, a couple week burst of people dying. It was all over the news. Everyone was talking about it. And then it kind of quieted down again. It seemed like they were all unrelated deaths. And I see people now saying, see.
Starting point is 00:18:31 B, C, vaping is bad. You can't, you can't vape it's as bad as cigarette smoking. Can you update us on that whole incident and then just again reiterate vaping versus cigarettes in general? So what happened was, what had happened was, what happened was there was a outburst of vitamin E being used in black market cannabis vape. Cannabis vaping cartridges. They don't do the cannabis part. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:56 What they went to was, you see, see a horrible viping? We told you was a disaster. Then they were like, oh, this is all black market stuff that kids that are looking for cannabis got off the internet, whatever. Okay, well, they immediately had to shut up and eat crow. And because it didn't gratify their moral outrage, it just went to zero fast. Right. Because they wanted to be able to go, see how horrible it is. People, you know, people around smoking probably have more non-scientific thoughts and emotional thoughts than any other subject.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Like I listen to Dennis Prager all time, and Dennis Prager says, I smoke a cigar. I don't inhale the cigar. And then people call in and go, it's just as bad as smoking. And he goes, no, it isn't because I don't inhale. I'm not saying it's good for me. And they go, what about jaw cancer? And then they go, okay, it's very rare. It's exceedingly rare.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And they go, yeah, but you're still releasing. It's like, first off, who anoints everybody the spokespiece person? For anti-smoking, like, just fucking keep driving, would you? You don't smoke a cigar. Shut the fuck up. It's like, what the message it sends? What message? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Who are all these people? These are adults that are like infused with this energy about the third hand smoke or Dennis Prayers or these kids vaping. Where's this energy come from? It's like, look, would you like your son to smoke cigarettes? No. Would you like him to smoke cigars and not inhale over-inhaling cigarettes? Yes. Would you like him to vape water vapor nicotine versus smoking a cigar? Yes. Should we keep going? This is how life works, bitches. What the fuck? What is this? And why are we listening to all the fucking hysterics and how they make it on the news?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Well, that was going to be my point. It's anecdotal versus systemic. Like, you know, there's probably as many of these vape deaths as they were. were people who had the bad alcohol down in the Dominican Republic, but all of a sudden it was travel bans, you know, it's the extremity. We also didn't say all alcohol is bad. Right, right. Right. Right. Do your best. Well, according to the national institutes of hell, 30 million men in the U.S. deal with erectile dysfunction. More common than sleep disturbances. And yeah, it can screw with things. It can screw with your emotional well-being. Good news is Hymns makes getting treatment very simple. No clinic visits, no waiting rooms, no pharmacy, 100% online, get personalized prescription options,
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Starting point is 00:23:12 When did this begin? I know it's all chick driven and now consequently dudes who think like chicks. Where did this come from? One of the theories Mike I have is that all the plastic. is leaching the estrogen estrogenic yeah that could be happening Adam may be on to something girls are having puberty a lot earlier and well they're pre-puberty they're having that earlier but even so we are clearly something going on here well as i was saying to drew probably or anyone who would listen as i really now think about
Starting point is 00:23:44 this crazy fucking sway in in our society when they talk about the black vote they go well the black populace is like, you know, 12% of the population. You go, okay, small percentage of population. If you could get 50% or 35% of that population to vote Republican, then a Democrat would never win ever again. And it's like, wow, you mean, you get a little group of a little group to move, you know, 15 points or 20 points this way and no Democrat ever gets elected again. I mean, according to today's standards. And I'm like, start thinking about it. that with dudes who think like chicks. Just a small group of
Starting point is 00:24:26 douchey dudes who think like chicks can throw the fucking whole balance off. That's what we're experiencing now. The balance is fucked up because a small group of douche dudes swung over and started thinking like chicks. That's what I'm experiencing. And if they have the power to
Starting point is 00:24:42 spread that message through social media and things like that. Social media. These guys are on TV every night, like yelling about vaping and they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. like also this notion of like it's what it's called it's water vapor which is inert with nicotine which is inert like there's nothing you're taking you're taking air and and styrofoam and putting it together and calling it TNT it's like no it's not I'm doing the math that's not there and then
Starting point is 00:25:13 they go then they start branching off into like yeah well what about the stepping stone okay now you're making another argument and as I I'm now fond of saying being born as a fucking stepping stone drug. It leads to all kinds of shit that we don't like. That's a new book. Yes. Write that down. But this notion of like, yeah, but then what about, what about
Starting point is 00:25:34 well, look, if it gets a, if it gets a large group of people to put down cigarettes and pick up the vape pen, then then that's good. Then good. And research has shown it's more effective than anything else for stopping tobacco which is the dangerous product. No, it's not
Starting point is 00:25:50 effective at doing. Shutting the fucking yenta's up because they're not interested in smoke or second hand smoke or third hand smoke or facts they're interested in telling you what the fuck to do that's what i'm that's what i'm realizing you think there's some appeasement process here that's what i'm really realizing it's i'm really every time they do you know they go we got to get the uh the the the jewish state and the the Palestinians to sit down and work something out yeah that's you're presuming the Palestinians want to work something out i'm not going on i'm not i'm not signed off on that you It's very much like the homeless thing.
Starting point is 00:26:24 You assume they want to go into that housing group, but no, no, they don't. Yeah, they want affordable this. They want that. They want to have a domestic life. No, they don't. They're doing what they want to do. They're living their best life on the fucking sidewalk. Nathaniel?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yes, sir. How are you doing today? 40 from Michigan. Good. Yeah, I don't know. What am I calling about now? I forgot almost, you know, I got so wrapped up and listening to the show. boy, what a bunch of phenomenal ideas as far as, like, what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'll be missed when I'm gone. I don't know. I mean, I can launch. You want to launch? Okay, so here. I don't know gay. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:27:08 You know, I got it. So, like, you know, like, what I get confused about is, like, you know, like, okay, I'm newly. Hold on a second. I feel like we've talked to Nathaniel before, or maybe there's just a lot of guys like him. I can't, it's the exact same impression, and I can't tell. Tell me, there's, tell me, tell me, stand back, I'm telling you a story. Tell me if we can connect these dots, Mike,
Starting point is 00:27:33 be interested in this. I, I, I look at little, little tells in society. I watch commercials. I listen to, like, talk radio. I listen to talk radio. I've always listened to talk radio. I've never heard more callers talking simultaneously while the host. was talking where the host said,
Starting point is 00:27:54 give me a moment, I'll let you, I'll give you time to ask your question. And it's like, please, let me answer your question, but I, blah, blah, blah, blah. I grew up my whole life listening to Talk Radio. I never heard the other end talking right through the back of the head of the fucking host.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It's now almost a daily occurrence. Yes, I get that a lot of my talk show and I put them on hold. I just go, I go, hang on, all right. Right. Now, here's what Larry's trying to say. All right, Larry, is that it? Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay, I'm putting you back on hold.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And a lot of ad hominem stuff. Oh, come on, you know better. Right, right. It's like, no, make the argument. Stop with the attacking. Just, just, I don't, what do we get it? Why'd you call? Unable to do a back and a forth.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And listening is a skill to be practiced, and no one teaches it to us, and no one teaches us how to practice it. And Mike is too, too, he's too accepting. Well, you have to go to the groundlings to learn how to listen. No, you don't. Nathan? Yes, sir. That's a joke drug.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It's denial. All right. Yes, Ann. You had a question about inheriting real estate? Well, yeah, I got a bunch of real estate, and I got to figure out what I want to do with it. And I'm not exactly quite certain, because, like, if you keep it, well, then you get holding costs. And then if you let it go, well, then you get the money. And then, you know, at this point, you know, at this point,
Starting point is 00:29:20 times, do we, you know, do we keep it? Is it in Michigan? I don't know. Do we let it go? Here he's talking over. Is it in Michigan? Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah. It's up here. Not a trick, not a trick question. He'll ask it again. Is it in Michigan? Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Yes, sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:40 All right. Keep it. No, I say keep it. Well, I say do you want to be a landlord? If you want to be a landlord, keep it. If you absolutely categorically, you do not want to be dealing with plumbing and landlording. And whatever hassles come with that, sell it. Well, I think the advice generally is you keep as much of the stuff you can keep. You have to pay bills or pay on or whatever medical issues or something you sell. But if you can keep things, since they seem to – real estate consistently goes up in value, you try to hang on to it. I think that seems to be the answer. He's that one of those guys who answered things in peculiar ways.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yeah. which is is it is it in is it in michigan yes well sure yeah sure what if you say it's like yes a lot a lot of that and a lot of i know people are now more divided and you could use that as the reason for why they're talking over the host on the a m talk show but it's more than that they're not they're just powering right through that person they don't have exchanges like If you think about it, you are calling up this radio show so you can share an opinion. I feel like three times out of five. Now, if it's a complementary opinion, then you get it out.
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