The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1226: She Was Debbie Dootson!!

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

February 9th, 2020: Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing a commercial that Adam recently saw for a preventative medicine designed to safeguard against AIDS and the nuances that Adam noticed within the spot. They guys then turn to the phones and speak to a caller who wants the guys thoughts on the current state of the so-called feminist movement and where it may lead. They also speak with a caller who is currently working as a maintenance person but is looking to transition into stand up comedy and wants advice. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Well, February, 2020. And we cover a lot of topics. I get into my Debbie Dudeson stuff. We talk to a caller who wants to be a standup as well. Well, you should check it out. Recording live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show.

Yeah, get it on, get it on, get it on, get it on, get it on, get it on, get it on, get it on. Get it on. Get it on. Get it on. Get it on. It's a specialist. Get it on. Get it on. Get it on. 8sleep.com slash love and lifelock.com promo code Adam is where you can go. We want to support our sponsors. Drew, how you doing, brother? I'm good, you came in with a head of steam. You said you have something for me. I got some stuff for y'all. Well, I was sitting around last night watching TV and a new prescription drug commercial came on.

And I'm now starting to think about, I've always said you judge the society, not the society overall, meaning like ancient Greece or anything like that, the time we're in by the commercials. Yeah, we've done deep dives. Commercials are little snapshots, you know? I mean, imagine these 70s commercials where the wife was upset you know, yeah, I mean imagine these 70s commercials where the wife was upset that the husband didn't like her coffee. I mean that

Yeah, my body My house Mind-numbing might that be mind-numbing for Lynette to be upset that I didn't have a second cup of her coffee She'd like I told all gonna make you a coffee. Leave me alone. So it wouldn't even be that. I didn't even know that. But the point is, is you start watching these commercials. And as I've said, one thing that was revelatory to me is watching a lot of commercials in the seventies during the day when I was home for like learn to drive a truck, learn to work in a doctor's world, quit smoking, learn to do this. And now everything's just a class action lawsuit

and they're gonna sue and a pubic match. Personal injury. Personal injury. The message is, so in the 70s, if you were home on a Wednesday noon, the commercial was, hey, you want a job. Yeah, it's good to work. Because you're home, it's good to work.

Yeah, of course you want a job. Now it's,, it's good to work. Of course you want a job. Now it's, buddy, don't go anywhere. They owe you stuff. They owe you stuff. And that's a big shift, it's a major shift. Obviously it's a horrifically bad shift, but. It's interesting though, that it used to be that it was sort of the undercurrent, now it's explicit.

Yeah, I mean. And now it's just, unashamed, unashamed. Everything starts off, everything starts off as an undercurrent and then it just turns into something that's loud and proud. But little snapshots of all school of trucking commercials versus attorneys and class action lawsuits against whomever.

And it's crazy how many of those are during daytime. I started noticing it. It's all the commercial breaks. Bad sign. Yeah. It's a bad sign. So I'm sitting around yesterday and I'm watching this commercial

for this new drug that's on TV. And I'll play the commercial. Can we? To hear the sounds. This is the visual. Can I just say starting out, I have no idea what that is? All right.

What the drug is. No, what the drug is, where is he? He's in a book depository. Is it a bookstore? He's going to shoot Kennedy. Is it a bookstore for ancient books? Gary likes my stuff. That's good.

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I like that every female is suspect gender. There's no just woman in this. No, I couldn't tell anymore. I can't tell anymore. So what's going on? Everyone's, it's prep for AIDS? Yeah, pre-exposure prophylaxis. So that deal is?

They're not using condoms. So pop this pill before you head out. Yeah Now we on this pill not you don't pop it one take it every day What what what I find interesting I didn't hear them talking about still performed still stay and save sex other diseases are on the rise It's just the focus on HIV which kind of interesting and and I'm looking I look at it through the medical prism, right? And so to me, you're going to hate this. But as a kid that started talking about this stuff in 1983 about HIV and AIDS, this is sort of a miracle to me

that we're doing this. Forget the format and what it says, what a cultural snapshot is. I don't have a knee-jerk sort of negative reaction to it. I'm just sitting there looking at it and I'm going, everyone is of color and there's this pill they're telling you to take to prevent you from getting AIDS. What is going on in this community and how does this work

and what does Drew know about it? No condoms. That's the bottom line. In that community. Yeah. And the problem with the rate of increase in HIV is in people of color. And I think women of color too, particularly, there's a problem.

What was the part, Gary, it said if you were born biologically a female? Right, what they're saying is they don't want people who are trans, who are male, to be taking this drug because if you were born female, it hasn't been tested because they're gonna get sued by someone who is a man but is trans because they were told in a commercial it was safe for men. Play that part one more time if you could find it.

So let me say it even simpler It's not been studied on women Right that's it. Oh, that's what he said, but they had to say it in a way that born Assigned female at birth is what it says hold on one second What about the school of truckin I'm Debbie Dudeson. I should know. I'm Debbie Dudeson. You're gonna start crying. She should know. She's Debbie Dudeson. There we go.

It's the Dudeson School of Truckin'. He starts crying. He hit the open road and made good cash. In 1974, $10, bought this many groceries. Now buys this many groceries now buys this Wallet door he always rolling over in his grave He liked the open road and the dudes in driving school the dudes in school a truck and you know how she knew She was Debbie Dutton. She was Debbie Dutton. Sorry.

It's not for everyone. Discovie for PrEP has not been studied in people assigned female at birth. Talk to your doctor to find out if it's right for you. Oh, so, right, you can't say females anymore because people have transitioned. Okay. And so it's for men. And there's, you know, there's some concerns about the transgender community transmission of HIV.

Uh-huh. So you take this pill, you stay on this pill, and then you can go out and have unprotected sex. And not get HIV. But get other diseases. That's the problem. I didn't hear them talk about that. I must admit, it's mind-numbing's mind numbing when they start listing through all

the concerns and all the qualifiers. Well, everyone, unintended consequences, that's my new middle name, right? Yeah. Obviously, you're going to see, well, I think there's two things that are going to happen. Are you ready? To what? This country? This pill.

This pill. Okay, I'm ready. Or this world. Okay. Well, which? Well, no. I'm more interested in the world than the pill. This pill. This pill. Okay, I'm ready. Or this world. Okay, well which? Well no, you. I'm more interested in the world than the pill, frankly. You go, when you say, again, broken record, but you go, hey, I'm a nutritionist,

diet and exercise, and someone goes, don't do that, take this pill. Yeah. Does it ever work out? Right. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. And, you know, safe sex, responsible sex,

condoms, whatever, no whatever no no take this pill okay Well everyone gets syphilis that or what have you herpes everything else right everything right? Also, I don't know I'm not a pharmacist But I do believe very strongly in biology You know and I do it like insects that become resilient to pesticides and stuff like that. I believe that if you get the human body on this pill

and on this pill too long, or we stay on this pill, or everyone gets on the pill, somehow AIDS, or the virus, some version, it might not be the same one, has a way of mutating and jumping, bridging it. Because the virus is trying to survive. Right. Its survival is dependent on the host, which is us, and if the host is killing it,

it will find a way to adapt to that. That's called resistance, which is inevitable. Right, so a form of super aids will then emerge. Probably. If too many people are doing this. It's an interesting and a serious concern. Yep. Wow. Yep.

You hear that, fellas? Yeah. I just made an interesting and a serious concern yep Wow you hear that fellas yeah I just made an interesting and serious concern question using a crystal brain using my crystal brain well I'm up every time I see a weed or blade of grass popping through a sidewalk crack I'm like yeah man nature man nature moves I was talking to Tucker Carlson about this but I said I don't know look no further than Ivy just stand back and watch it just it just goes yeah it starts taking over that's evolutionary biology man yeah but if you want to understand why anything is anything just just look through that

prism right Marcy 48cy, 48, Detroit. Hi, oh my gosh, I'm so excited to talk to you guys. Hi, girl. This is, hi guys. Hi, guys. This is my second time, oh, my second time calling. The first time, hopefully I do better this time. Anyways, huge fan of both of you.

I'm a huge fan of teen mom and Huge fan of you. Of course Adam. I read all of your books and I'm excited for your next one. Thank you I'm your emotional support animal, which will be available It's available now for pre-order. I'm working on I'm working on the audiobook as we speak. So thank you When is it officially coming out? I'm told, and the only reason I remember is because it's May 26th and my birthday's May 27th. Me too.

Same birthday? Yeah. Crazy. Oh, okay. You are my emotional support animal. Now I'm gonna play people I speak to. Oh, do you have a book coming out as well? Cause that's a normal follow up question in my world. Where is your, your accent's not really Detroit.

Are you from further north or what is that? Well, yeah, well I guess yeah, a little bit. Yeah, you know, I've been taken for March from Minnesota a couple times. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Yeah, it's a little more. Okay. All right, so what's going on? We talk like that. Um, I was just curious what you both of your takes are on the whole feminism new wave of feminism movement that's kind of taking over and creating a lot of confusion. First I'm putting Adam's birthday on my calendar here so I don't forget. Oh, lovely. Listen, let me just...

Put mine on too. Do you have a book coming out? No, but put my birthday on your calendar. Didn't she say she had a book? I think she did. I heard book. No, I don't have a book. It's just my birthday.

It's my birthday on May 27th. Okay. So the question is the new feminist movement? Fourth wave feminism. Okay. Is it fourth wave? Yeah. Look, all movements, pretty much all movements that are going strong now, Black Lives Matter, these movements,

LGBT, whatever, there's nothing really left for them. Nothing substantial. There's nothing, there's no real, the other team, the other army has been vanquished. There's nobody really left. You're essentially the crazy Japanese guy who's still on the island in 1953 Who still thinks there's a war going on and you're talking yourself into it? So you're doing these marches that are about nothing people are talking about all they do talk about systemic oppression of fill in the blank

But no one can find examples of it. They don't they here's what they they never give details notice, no details. They just talk about systemic oppression or whatever, whatever. We're living in a, you know, male dominated, but patriarchy, but they never actually give examples. You know, they never go, I, my daughter applied for this college and they were told she wasn't wanted because she was a female or she applied for a job at Chick-fil-A and they were explained and then we're now at the part Whatever the race is and whatever the gender is when the community is is Okay, there's nothing anymore, but but we know what people are thinking Just like okay. Well now we're at the point of where you know what we're thinking I heard an analyst calling it thinking about your gonads and melanin content of your skin That's calling it, thinking about your gonads and melanin content of your skin.

That's all we're thinking about is gonads and melanin. But listen. So there's nothing. But here's something interesting. I have something very interesting for you to dig. No, no, no. You're going to like this. So Megan Domb, your big fan, wrote a book called

The Problem with Everything, which I recommend highly. I think it's one of the most thoughtful walks through the issue you're raising, Marcy, for a woman particularly. And I've been sort of ruminating on it for a while. And her fundamental observation was, geez, when I was a kid, when I was growing up, men and women, we were told men and women are the same. In fact, maybe women are a little, you know, we're sort of, seem to be moving ahead of these kids, these males, but we're the same.

We're all just out on the field here together and we're the same, the same, the same. That started ringing in my head, and you and I have talked about this over the years, the same, the same, the same. And then I started thinking, and dig this, you ready? I'm all ears. You and I were raised on this notion that, hey man, whatever you're feeling, that girl over there,

she's feeling the same thing. And if she doesn't express it, it's because society shames her. She's just as sexual as you are, man. And your job is to be aggressive to bring that out of her. See how fucked up that is? I mean, that's what was going on in the 70s. That's what the 70s went off the rail completely.

Men were being encouraged to be aggressive to break through the feet the woman's societal What would you call it suppression? Yeah, yeah, look it's always crazy. I mean, that's there's kind of is that nuts Yeah, I mean it's it's been around for a while, you know every Person Humphrey Bogart ever kissed on camera didn't want the kiss and then he pulled her in tight, you know, and then she wanted it, you know. If you watch the transition of her going, struggle a little at the beginning and then giving in, that's pretty much been a theme sexually for quite some time in this country.

Just, it started to be spoken about in the 70s, but. And encouraged. That's the other thing, was openly encouraged. Yeah. And but. And encouraged, that's the other thing, it was openly encouraged. Yeah. And that's the rape culture. Thank you guys, the red feminism brought us to the rape culture. Here's the whole thing,

you don't win any popularity contests by explaining that it's over and who cares and moving on, nobody wants to do that. It's what's healthiest for whatever group you're talking about. I mean, you turn on, I was watching like Entertainment tonight or something last night, it's like Chelsea Handlers. It's at the Women's Forum and she's speaking

and she believes that women need a place at the table. With the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, I don't know. There's not countless examples of successful women. Well, at the state you're required to have them at the boardroom Yeah, I mean it's all required. It's just it's over now the reason I know people are just look When people look when here's a ha ha ha okay this aha this country

Doesn't want to fight per se per se we have Groups in this country that want to keep the military industrial whatever but as a as a whole this country Switzerland Sweden, you know many many other countries Canada Mexico they don't want to fight war. Yeah, leave Canada, Mexico, they don't wanna fight war. Yeah, leave us alone. They don't wanna fight war. But when a fight breaks out, like World War I or World War II, then we get involved.

And second the war is over, we pack it up and leave and we go home and there's no more fighting. Then you go to places in the Middle East and it's just fighting, fighting, there's no more fighting. Then you go to places in the Middle East and it's just fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting. Okay, now, are they fighting for the cause or do they want to fight? We fight for the cause, but then when the cause is done, we move on. We're not still hanging around fighting Japanese and Germans. We're just, we're not. The movements want to fight and the cause is over

They keep saying it's on it's on it's on but they keep getting more granular They just now now there's the now there's the trans community of color, you know We're I don't know what that with that percentage that of Americans are the trans community of color But now we're on to that we're gonna keep going which says to me they want to fight if they wanted Just to clear up a problem. They've succeeded or we've succeeded We've worked this one out in our culture black transgender, whatever whatever you are. We're pretty good You don't need you don't need to march women. I don't even know what the fuck they're talking about There's the fucking majority of the world is women. I don't know what Chelsea Handler's talking about. What is she talking about?

She's a multimillionaire now, obviously it's all grandiosity She wants to get up there and get the kudos and it feels good You get patted on the back people think you're a hero They're right nice tweets about you and then if you speak out like I do well then the opposite is true but it's over and you'd be a fool to join any group and I tell you to join the group if it helped you it never helps I don't yeah I don't I don't want to join the group at all there's a matter of fact you're gonna join the majority. Women are a majority. Join the group.

Well, I have never felt oppressed. Because you live in America. Because you live in America. Because you live in the United States. That's why you've never been oppressed. Right, and I will also submit that I think the beauty industry is a multi-billion dollar industry

that many women are quite interested in. And the notion that we all dress up and wanna look good, but then it's supposed to be bad. Let me tell you. Yeah, the beauty industry, this is our land. Look, the ones who are ones who screwing up women are women and gay fashion designers. It's not the heterosexual dudes out there.

We're just hanging back trying to get laid. This notion of like, the thing that's given chicks eating disorders and fucking everyone up are all the Kardashians. It's not Rob Kardashian, it's the chicks coming out with all their fucking photo, all their cooked photos and airbrushed everything and this sort of- And Rob had plastic surgery. Plastic surgery and this definition of beauty that no normal person could ever rise to that

level. Who's that? Who's doing that? Trump? Like what- that that's well who's doing that Trump like what I think they would argue that that somehow that the fact that men are attracted to that is duplicitous but I don't know what you do with that yeah well no but then I thought Lena Dunham has defined the new beauty right you guys are idiots fucking get to work

would you please just get the fucking work everybody life's almost over get busy Jesus Christ, would you put that on us? I know like a Like that needs to be on a t-shirt life is almost over get busy Everyone go to work and just shut up. You don't have fully formed thoughts You're just listening to dumbos. All right, Drew. I, you know, I'm emotionally fired up about the subject of joining the group.

Yeah. Because it hurts the people who join the group. That, that's why I, I don't, what, what dog do I have in this fight? I'm just fucking telling people the truth Right, but but you you don't appreciate man Intersectionality you could be Italian poor white you could be I'm not interested. You could be a lot of different groups. You could become a part of man

Not interested in being in a group that has so many members. I wanna be in that group, you know, there's X amount of guys, you know, there's people that have broken the sound barrier on land. That's like two dudes. I like that group. I don't want the group that has, in the United States, like, oh, we're marching for women's rights.

Okay, I get to join a elite fraternity of 185 million people. Or 100 and, yeah, 185, I'll make it 165, sorry. Even, yeah. A million people, not interested in that. That's not an elite group. And yet the ones that are marching strangely actually are from an elite.

They are, yes. They're all upwardly mobile and rich. I think that's what people are waking up to right now. Hey, Sean, 32, Seattle. Yes. Hey, how are you guys? What's going on? So right now I'm a gym maintenance guy.

I fix gym equipment across a couple different gyms. My passion is photography, specifically standup comedy photography. That's an interesting subject. I've been doing that for a few years. I want to make a transition to doing that full time, but I just am kinda trying to find it tough a little bit to make that transition. Yeah. I don't know how you do that.

Yeah, it's kind of a niche thing, huh? It's niche and I don't know who would pay for it other than the clubs and the comedians, and the clubs only pay for it once in a great while, right? They put up some pictures of who would be around. Well, I'll tell you one angle that you might Want to pursue That's a little more pedestrian Somebody and on that subject somebody took a black and white picture me in front of the crowd at Park West

Which I really enjoy, I cherish it. You know, like I was done with my set and I was getting off stage and some guy just ran out and took a picture and you know, my first blush is, I was like, all right, okay, here we go. You know, but then the guy sent it to me and Gary will find it and put up. And it's like, it's beautiful.

And not only that, it's a wonderful keepsake. Like I would, it's just me, it's facing the audience, everyone's kinda up on their feet, waving their hands, it's black and white. And I will look back on this picture in years to come and go, that was a nice moment. So would you pay him for that? I didn't, he just took the picture and sent it to me.

But here's my angle, you can take the picture and sent it to me, but I here's my here's my angle You can take the picture down feel like Gary for Sean when these guys Come to town The comedians the the comedians. Oh, no, it's not about Santa Claus When Santa Claus I'm just thinking listeners, that's all yes when he When these guys come to town me to do that I know you're right all right when these guys come to town these guy

These comedian guys come to town Some of them jump right back in the car and go to the airport Many of them go out to the lobby and take pictures with everyone from the lobby. Now if you get a thousand or two thousand people to your show and everyone is handing off their camera, you're there all day. We've done it before where you have a professional, they show up, they sort of set up, 15 minutes after the show the talent comes out and you move through that line and then you post it all on their Facebook page or whatever and everyone can go on it and

download it and get their picture. They could buy it for a couple bucks or the club could hire him to be there or the comedian could hire him to be there. The comedian who's made $63,000 for that day might give you $400 to stand there with them or the club or his manager or what have you. You see what I'm saying? You can also take photographs of the person when they're on stage for the same show. Which I do.

I've had quite a bit of amateur training. I shot at the Laugh Factory in my hometown in Reno, which is, you know, definitely not Los Angeles, but you know, I do have quite a bit of a I'm ready for what comes, what comes next, when it comes back. So I'm saying, Yeah. All right. Well, it's look,, look, it's tough.

All jobs that are low percentage means you gotta get crafty and you gotta hit it hard. I will also tell you that there are guys who go out and photograph all these car races I do, right? And what they do is that once they do, they post them up on their whatever And when you see a cool shot of you in your car, they go, okay it's 250 bucks for the negative or you know, whatever they're calling it, but

Once people see you know comedian sees a great shot of them Yep, just right up on stage and it's posted they'll pay you for it Go to AdamCrawler.com for all the live shows and go to Chassis for all the movies, C-H-A-S-S-Y, and what do you got, Drew? I got DrDrew.com, check out After Dark there, and of course the DrDrew podcast, and we're getting really good traction with this daily streaming show

where people can interact with me, just trying to do it every day, and then Sunday afternoons we're doing a live call-in show. It's all there at DrDrew.com. And you can check out two awesome true crime podcasts that are trending now, Cold Case Files and Autopsy. And you can check that out on Podcast One, Apple Podcasts and all that. Until next time, Sam Kroll for Dr. Drew, say mahalo. Podcasting isn't just about talking. It's about growing, engaging, and monetizing.

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