The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #147: Adam Carolla Returns Pt. 2

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Adam and Drew are back together after Adam’s long hiatus to shoot his independent movie ‘Road Hard’ and promote his new book ‘President Me’. Adam recaps some of his trips with Drew and they discuss how the influence of the Trial Lawyers Association of America has made getting things done in Washington a virtual impossibility. They also examine the tragedy that recently struck the Santa Barbara area and look at some of the societal ills that have developed in recent years and how they could be contributing to tragedies such as these.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Part two of this rowback episode where Adam is back after a long hiatus. He was out shooting Brodhard, if you remember that film. And we also examined the tragedy that recently struck the Santa Barbara area. And if you remember, this kid, this in-cell shot things, shot up essentially a sorority row, societal ills that have developed in recent years. We talk about that. This is really interesting historically. And how that is contributing to the tragedies that we are seeing or we're seeing back. back then, such as the one in Santa Barbara.

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New episodes every Monday and Thursday. I love you. Allison's your new best friend. Drew, what you're saying? I was saying that we can't not talk about what happened in Santa Bar. And so our callers, please hang on me. I'm not sure if we're going to get to this, this show, because this may take us off in another direction.

But, yeah, the Santa Barbara thing I found very disturbing, this kid up there who went to Santa Barbara City College, went on a shooting spree, killed seven people. You're familiar with the story, I'm sure, yeah. Yeah, I was traveling the whole time. So, you know, the one thing you realize when you travel, when you get deep into a book tour, you come back to your room

you drink a glass of wine you watch 20 minutes of sports center you pass out and then you just start the next day and you're a little out of the loop for the time that you're in the air like you're out of the loop and you hear little snippets of things but you don't realize that it does

you have to do have to start to stop and listen otherwise just little bits and pieces so I didn't get much until I got back but now I got the full story okay and I just want to what your thoughts were on it because I got a ton of thoughts You do? Okay, I have two and a half.

Okay. One, I was discussing the other night on my podcast that we talk a lot about mental illness and we talk a lot about access to firearms and blah, blah, blah, blah. By the way, the guy used a knife part of the way, first three. They never, whoever, the anti-gun folks don't get into that part. Here's the Dillio. I realize that males, and just males, not females, just pretty much exclusive. Females don't go on shooting sprees. No, no, no. And I'm not even talking about that.

I'm talking about, we're trying to figure out what's going on. It's going on in our society. And what's up with all these males? And why is everyone so angry? And everyone's killing. And they're killing themselves and they're killing other people. And then they're killing other people and then killing themselves and they're doing all these heinous things. and is it the video games? What's happening? You know, the family unit is broken down. What's going on? Society?

What's going on? Pornography? What's going on? Internet? What's going on? Males, between the ages of 14 and 25, need to be busy all day, every day. Oh, yeah. I mean, that fucking sun comes up.

They got to go out and start mending fences and chopping wood. Yeah, they're animals, right? Yeah. Need to be, like, to put in the paddock and run around. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A small Latin guy on top of them with a riding crop, beating them, going in a circle. They need to be exercised.

Like certain breeds of dogs don't do well in small apartments. They need to get out and run. And it struck me that males, and especially, when you start hitting that sweet spot at 19 or 20, if they got a lot of time on their hands, it ain't going in a positive direction. Every once in a while, you get a Bill Gates out of that, but by and large, you get guys just playing whatever.

Well, it's pouring in video games. Porn and or sort of both, because we're now sort of combining the two. So what we need and what we used to have. So you're saying we need to go all the way into virtual reality, just leave them there. Put a little box on their head and that's the end of that. No, I'm saying, here's what I'm saying. Of course not.

We used to have the military. Yeah. You get drafted at 18. Half the guys would lie when they were 16 or 17 and fake it and go into the military, you know, when there's a war to be fought, you know. And or there was the farm. You imagine turn of the century, there's a farm. And, you know, dad comes in to wake his son up. You know, it's time to get on there.

tractor. Now, you know, you're going to be working, you're, you're going to be working the backhoe, and I'm going to be working the tractor. And then the dad, the son is like, get out of here, old man. And the guy rolls out of bed about 1030 in the morning, has himself some pop tarts, toast or pastries, goes back into the room to play some video games. Farmer dad comes back out again. Those hogs need to be slopped. Hey, dad, I'm right in the middle of a game here. Couldn't imagine that, right? guys stayed busy guys guys basically in that age group that 14 to 25 but more specifically that kind of 16 17 to 22 that's the sweet spot if they don't go out and burn those fucking calories

and I mean it could be in the military getting up at 6 a.m. and doing road work jogging 8 miles with your boots on holding the flag you know the whole nine yards climbing up the cargo net but you got to come home at the end of every day exhausted the farm the military or maybe it's the classroom whatever whatever it is you got to come home tired and all you can think about is making yourself a pot of top ramen watching a little sports center nodding off and then repeat the next morning now we're done with that we got a bunch of people that say look here's a bmw go to a junior college it's on the waterfront and go find yourself for a couple of years that's a lot of time for a dude to be left alone with his mind and i don't know what we're going to do it was simple when dad was

heading down to the coal mine in the turn of the century and he was saying to your kid boy you're 13 It's the time you start working too, and he just left the house with dad at 6 a.m. Well, that was it. Whatever thoughts you had about anything, you were too fucking tired to execute any of those thoughts. Not that you even had those thoughts. You're too tired to, A, conceive of those thoughts because you're just shoveling coal all fucking day or whatever it was. Look, every guy, and there's a version of this. You saw it in the Paul Newman documentary.

Son died of an OD. Paul Newman was working his ass off his whole life. He didn't have time to hang out, do drugs, find himself, get laid, and eventually OD. Think about all the guys who OD. It's not the guys in the coal mine. It's the son of the guy who won the lottery. It's the hangout factor. And then I started thinking, so A, we need to learn something.

in a society. First off, we've got to get back to the difference between men and women. Women don't need this. They just don't. 17, 19-year-old girls, they need to stay busy, but they don't need to stay busy like guys need to stay busy. They're not going to go out and hurt somebody if they're not busy. They can make a day out of whatever they're doing, but they're not going to go out and plot and hurt. Number one, we need to realize there's difference between men and women. Number two, we need to start looking at our males 13 to 22 and go, these are endangered species, meaning they're going to run themselves out of existence and they're going to hurt a lot of people along the way. Let's focus on this trouble zone.

Now, it's interesting that all these guys, as I always say, there's a connection here. Whenever I talk to some mistress who's into the bondage in the S&M, I always say, you ever see a Mexican or a black guy? Out of all the years you've done it. Have you ever? And they're like, they're always a little surprised, but they go, no, no, no, it's only white guys. Right. Because the Mexican guys and black guys, life is beating them down.

They don't need to pay you to crack a whip on their ass. They get to whip cracked by their boss every day. But the boss, he comes in. Now, the version of that that pertains to this, this is pretty much the work of, it's all males, it's all in this one age group, pretty much that, you know, 15 to 22 range group, and almost exclusively white. What's going on? Well, there's plenty of killing in the inner city, but that's a different kind of killing.

That's a struggle to survive. That's not sport killing. That's, I killed this guy because this is my corner and I'm selling drugs on that corner. He's a Crip and I'm a blood. You know, that's a kind of a killing that you don't condone, but at least there's some rhyme or reason to it. There's a turf war. There's a drug war. There's a, I'm trying to exist.

I'm not killing for the sake of killing. This is, Whitey's out of problems. Let me just say. And I've said this many times. Strangely, the Crip blood goes down as criminal. The Whitey goes down as sick. right isn't that interesting not to me

but yes it is meaning I've always said it black guy can't read felt between the cracks white guy can't read dyslexia this is exactly what that is black guy kills somebody hey we got a thug

white guy kills someone that's mental illness there's a kind of a racism there between thank you meaning I don't mean kind of like it's a little bit of racism. It's a type of racism. Right, where we go mental illness with dyslexia. Yeah. They probably diagnosed him with dyslexia at a certain point. But anyway, dyslexia and mental illness versus thug criminal school system let him down fell between the cracks.

Yeah. It's interesting, right? School to prison pipeline. Right. So the reason the inner city kid doesn't do this is because he's got problems. problems. His problems are social, not mental, let's you'd say. Would you say that? He has... Or they become mental, but they're really caused by social. I would say that... I would say that he has to get up every day and figure out how he's going to eat. And thus, he ends up shooting some kid who's on his corner selling drugs where he might be selling drugs or whatever the answer is. But the point is, it's survival. you got to survive or you're going to get shot or whatever that you know what I'm saying that isn't these these I'm going to do a manifesto that's you know 900 pages and go on a

killing screen my BMW that's a first world problem oh yeah that and so we want to know what's causing all of this to me free time idle time when you with with 19-year-old dudes is fucking trouble. These guys need to be regimented, and they need to be moving, and they need to be working. I'm not sure this kid, as sick as he was sick, could have done it. I don't think it would. Well, no. Well, no.

Who could have, who could have, couldn't make him do anything? How many people could have stormed the beach at Normandy? Just fucking, hey, buddy, you're in the barracks, and there's Lou Gossett Jr. with a trash can and wooden spoon in it at 6 a.m. Get up. But we have all these parents get in the way of anything like that. Right. Yeah.

My thoughts are very powerful, though. No? Yes. Yes? Yeah. Or no. I mean, yes. Mm-hmm.

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fucking time not enough going on well there is also i mean the other two things that were prominent this guy was narcissism the kids narcissism was just like bizarre he thought he was god on earth he should rule the world wrote 150 page manifesto like we're supposed to give a shit right since he was age three chronicles every instance it was almost comical I know. And then the Asperger's type stuff, the disconnect. I mean, those are two very common themes right now, right? And too much time.

But I'm not sure you can make that kind of person do anything. You can make anyone do anything. You have to make them. I mean, you've got to fucking throw them into the military. And then that's it. They get broken. And we're not willing. You see, we're not, we don't want to take that.

next step we got a lazy kid see there's a there's a part in all this where you break through i think there's a part i don't know if you can with something like well look obviously if this then military would throw them out the the part i'm not first off i'm not talking about the bizarre anomaly fucking guys these are adam lanza and this one is that they are i'm not here's what i'm saying. I don't know that you're ever going to prevent or detect these guys in advance outside of the parents. I don't know that society's going to do that. It's always, well, the cops went and talked to them, you know, cops went and talked to everybody, you know, what the fuck, you know. Cops pulled over the North Hollywood bank robbers. They opened up the

fucking trunk of their car. They found a police scanner and body armor and banana clips. and AK-47s and fucking smoke pods and ski mask and they locked them up for four months and gave it back to them and then surprise, surprise, six months later they were shooting up North Hollywood with their AK-47s. That's what the cops do. The cops show up after the shooting starts. You're blaming the cops.

I blame the law. I'm not blaming the cops. Cops are mainly imbeciles. We have a... What? Every fuck, there's 5,000 shows on TV historically and today about cops being geniuses. Cops are mainly the dumb people you went to high school with who got in the law enforcement

because they couldn't get into fucking Stanford and they're not good at this shit. They show up after the shooting starts. Before the fucking shooting starts, they're not so good. Nicole Brown Simpson's screaming he's going to kill me to the 911 operator a year before she gets her head cut off. They're not good at that part. They're not good with the North Hollywood bank robbers. They're not good with the guys who shoot up Isla Vista before.

They're good after. I blame the rights. And they're not good during either. They're just after. Rights of individual versus, you know, liberative individual versus rights of community and victims. I think we've gone way, way too far. And like, hey, man, this postmodernism or say whatever you're into, who are we to say?

Way bad. You've always said that. We have to start judging. To me, that's the constant that's behind all this. We should develop judgment, like make an effort to be judging so we can understand when somebody's in trouble to go, hey, that's a problem. We take care of that. Yeah, well, judging used to be a good thing. Yeah, you need to have judgment to be able to help prevent shit like this.

Yes, and whatever other form, look, if you were walking down the street and it was 10 a.m. on Thursday. you were swigging out of a bottle of scotch, people would judge you. And thus, the brown bag was invented. You know what I mean? I mean, there was judgment and there was societal judgment. Look, if we walk down the street and your lawn looked like shit, we judged. Why does your lawn look like shit and everyone else's looks nice? And we can be more sophisticated than just good or bad.

You know, somebody's good, somebody's bad. Somebody's in trouble. Why is somebody dead in there? Your lawn's growing? Let's judge that's not okay. That's the old point. You got the inner city kid who's walking around with his pants around his ankles. Somebody says, hey, pull your pants up.

Not because I'm mad at you. I'd like you to be able to get a job. Yeah. It's hard to get a job with your pants down. Certain jobs. Most jobs. Yeah, I'm just saying we turn that, hey, son, I'd like you to pull your pants up and tighten your belt a little so you can get a job into, oh, ho, ho, ho.

What are you doing? of these kids. You're judging them? Yeah, but for them. Just like, that's what parenting is. When your parent, you say, oh, this is a bad report card. I'm judging it. This is not good. Or your face is covered with schmutz and you didn't brush your teeth. Now, go brush your teeth and wash your face. Yes, I'm judging your parents. You're not leaving the house dressed like that. Or maybe we're going to a nice event and you're fucking wearing flip flops and your pajama bottoms. No, go back in and put on some trousers. Like, yes, judging. Fine. It's good. It keeps things in order. Yeah. And as I say, all the time, when people start getting into that, hey man, big brother.

I don't know how else to explain it to people. My twins were born. They were assigned a number by the government. I mean, it sounds Orwellian. I mean the Social Security number. Yes. Yeah. It's a fucking 10-digit number, whatever the hell it is now. But it... Yeah.

Nine or 10. I don't know how many... Maybe we've gotten into 10 digits or whatever it is. But the point is, they got a number. A number. Yeah. I mean, every futuristic movie, it was tattooed on their neck, but this is mine as well... Look, it'll be a thing of their tooth soon.

Or on their phone. Look, you'd be doing my kids a fucking favor if you tattooed. it onto the inside of their right forearm so they could fucking check it because they're going to have to give it out 7,000 times over the course of their lifetime. You assign them, not you, not me, not the parents.

The government assigns you a number. You, to the government, you're not Dr. Drew or Adam Carolla or Santino Carolla. You are that number. And that number needs to pay

us. you get money you give us 30 40 heading toward 50 percent of what you get that number so listen number we need your money okay once we've established that in terms of your privacy or your fundamental rights or freedoms or whatever i'd say if you just took um if you just went to another planet and brought some coincidentally English-speaking folks here who looked quite different but spoke our language.

With English accent, though. Yeah, English accent, but they look like gecko lizards, but they fucking speak good English. If you sat those people down and you said, look, what's more intrusive to a citizen of this planet Earth here in these United States? A camera

put up out on the streets to stop violent street crime, or at least you can get the, you know, license played of a hit and run or something like that, or to every person that's born, you get a number and they collect 40% of what you bring in, whatever it is, with no cap, weekends, overtime, it doesn't matter. They fucking wet their beak for the rest of your lives. I think every single one of the aliens would say the number is more intrusive.

Now that we've agreed that it's okay to have a number signed you and then half your income removed from you for the rest of your life or any day that you work, once you can get over that, you can get over about anything. I can get over the part where the NSA may be listening to me complain about Lynette on my cell phone to Kevin Hensch. I can get over that. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, yes.

I'm not, by the way, complaining and then talking about making a crock pot bomb. I'm just complaining. Yeah. If I do start talking about making a crock-pot bomb, I'm just complaining. about making a crock pot bomb. Then it behooves them to listen. And you, it behooves you. Well, you're going to end up killed in the street.

It may behoove the people who I might take out with that crock pot bomb. That's my point. So, as I've said, it's just all these hypocrite pussies on the left. And they started complaining about this Patriot Act in 2002. As I've always said, Drew, name me. You. Find me the person. As I say.

find me the person without the ID card who's been held back from voting. Find me the person who's been negatively affected by the Patriot Act. Go ask every fucking friend you know. Have the jackbooted thugs kicked in your front door and confiscated your computer, grabbed your cell phone?

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Remember the secret, the power of positive thinking? Yeah, I don't read, so I'm not affected by other people's ideas. This was saying, and I don't listen. Wish something should be shown, it'll manifest. It'll happen. And if you're not thinking, I mean, wishing it hard to have something's wrong with you. It's like, that's how little children, babies think, you know, this kind of primary narcissism. It's a profoundly disturbed way to teach people to think.

And this kid got onto that. And he started wishing to win the lottery. And he literally drive to Arizona go, I'm manifesting. I'm going to win the lottery, goes and buys and buys tickets in Arizona. And it is devastated when he doesn't win the lottery. Sure. So everything bad is exemplified by this kid, the secret, the lottery, pornography, video games, all the shit that our society has to offer, this kid was playing into. It was almost victimized by it because, and this is the point of what I want to make, he lacked the ability to connect with other humans.

And ultimately, that's where happiness is, is other people connect to other people. And we've lost track of that. Well, it makes it harder to kill people when you can connect with people. It's sort of like... Yeah, but it also makes for happiness. I understand that it's hard. No, no, I know. It's what you call win-win.

But I mean, for people who raise chickens, they probably eat less chicken or they eat ten times as much. But you know what I mean? You know, look, when you have a pot-belly pig as a pet, you don't eat as much bacon because you've connected to that pig. But the bacon that you're eating is not that pig, but you've done the math. Yeah. You've figured out a way to connect with pigs. That's right. Yeah, absolutely.

But aside from the fact that appreciating that pigs have agency, people have agency, people have feelings, stuff like that that he just didn't have. His own unhappiness can be solved just with the relationships of the people, what he didn't understand was he was the problem. He was the reason he wasn't having relationships. And that is so much for everyone else to be learned in that story. All we can change is us. Right. Happiness comes from relationships. Don't manifest shit.

Work hard. Don't – there's no secret. Right. Stop it, everybody. Get back to the basics. Right? Good note to go out on. This summer, Pluto TV is exploding with thousands of free movies.

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