The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #155: Jules Dash, Pt. 2

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

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Okay, this is part two of the throwback episode, number 155 from June 2014, so more than a decade ago, almost a different world back then. And we respond to some listener emails. And again, as I said, this is named, again, this is entitled Jules Dash, the famous director that is Adam's character. But yeah, look what we're thinking about 10 years ago. It's very interesting. Enjoy this throwback episode from June 2014. All right, we got letters, we got calls, we got... I got things.

I don't know where the letters are. I got one right here. All right, this one's from Paul. Oh, and if you want to write in, Adam and Dr. Drew Show.com. Check it out at the bottom. By the way, somebody, before you read the letter, took issue with me saying Apple hadn't been sued

by the patent trolls. Apparently, they have been. I was saying that, you know, they didn't go after the big companies. They're going after the big companies. They're going after everybody. No, they're going after the big companies and me. The big companies just settle.

Yeah. We need a patent. ooh i know well i think apple lost actually but either way here we go all right this is from paul uh dear adam and dr drew i have a 16 month old daughter and she favors me over my wife this upsets my wife because she wants to comfort our daughter but our daughter wants nothing to do with her whenever she is upset recently she was sick with a high fever when my wife tried to hold her my daughter would shake her head no and refuse to leave my arms. I don't know what to make my daughter want her mother more. It kills my wife that my daughter doesn't want her mom when she's upset. What do I do? Kids, especially daughters, they just have an ebb and a flow. Yes. He'll be the shitter soon enough. Don't worry.

She'll be the identified one. Relax. Yeah. First off, everybody, whatever the situation is, do not put your fully formed brain into the brain. We're doing too much of that. Oh, my God. Into the brain of a kid, we're doing it with pets, too. Like, oh, what do you? He thinks he's my best friend. He thinks he's a person.

He knows me. He knows what I'm thinking. Like, he doesn't. These are walnut-sized brained creatures that have, oh, they see colors and shapes. They don't know what the fuck's going on. They don't know whose feelings they're hurting or how they're making your feeling, what they're listening in you. They don't know anything. And I can tell you right now, by the way, my daughter had a sleeper.

over last night and uh it was just me and my wife and sunny at home and it was like me and my wife just in an old cat just living alone like an elderly couple like it was like we're an elderly couple living in a retirement community like my son said my son was like so quiet my son is like so quiet so I don't have to hear like coming down the hall sonnie mommy sunny sunny no no like I me just screaming at Molly, scream. I had this weird moment with, my daughter screams at everybody, you know, and she doesn't have a dimmer switch.

And I said, I was trying to get Molly to eat, Molly wouldn't eat, and we went through this fucking, made this fucking deal with the devil where she started eating super expensive food and then wife started mixing in chicken brass with it, and now she won't eat anything. And it's one of those, just buy kibble, get her to eat the kibble.

once she eats the kibble, she's not eating the kibble. Well, then she's not, eventually she'll get hungry enough. Absolutely. And she will eat the fucking kibble, and we could not have to live and die with the can opener and the half open can and the fridge that I got to see with the gelatinous mess. The problem is she was diabetic and needed the shots. So when she would stare at the kibble and not eat the kibble, Lynette had to leave. She couldn't give her the shot until she ate the kibble, but she wouldn't eat the kibble. Hmm.

What are you doing? The point is, at a certain point, I was like, Molly, eat your food, Mama, and I, Natalia was standing there, and I was sort of doing something, and I said, like, Natalia, get Molly to eat her food. And she went, Molly, eat your food! And it's like, scared the shit out of everybody, including Molly. And we were like, Natalia, relax. She said, what?

You want to? Don't scream at her. food I knew she got that so Lynette's mom isn't was

like a fucking macaw in terms of her sound and nuts and my grandmother was louder and shit too

so there's a gene coming through very loud something on the X chromosome my my grandmother

everybody feared it my grandmother would walk through the door to my to into the house and she would come through the door I spent a ton of time at my grandparents house because my parents are fucking losers and I wanted to eat yeah and my grandfather cooked dinner food yes and it was a big deal so he's making goulash and I were going him to eat a nice big hot kettle of something that was like savory the word savory you know I was

eating just fucking brown rice patties and blanched peanut butter that was unsalted and shit. Like, I was just like, I'd open my fridge and just be like, yuck. Like, there's nothing in this fucking house. And then I'd go to my grandpa, and again, the savory part, the part where there was beef, you know, I could smell it, and it was potatoes, and it was coming from the oven, you know, and it was like in a big pot, you know, it smelled good, it was fill up the house, you know. my grandmother she worked at the VA

she had one of those government gigs that you know it started at 9 it ended at 530 she was never there at 532 there was never a weekend there was you know three weeks four weeks paid vacation

it was a government gig she never worked I don't mean this in a pejorative way but I mean her schedule was like kabo rigid my schedule's like where the fuck is he when's he coming home Is he out of town? Is he going to be around this weekend?

Is he coming home tonight? Hers was out the door, 8.15, in the door, 637, and that was that with never Saturday, never out of town, and never anything. But when she walked through that fucking door at 637, food better been on the fucking table. Honey, I'm home. I mean, honey, I'm home. And if Grandpa wasn't walking. the food from the kitchen to the table. She was pissed because she came home ready to eat.

And not only that, she didn't like going to the VA every morning. No wonder you're so steeped in traditional roles. I mean, you were infected by a family where, you know, the dad worked, the mom stayed at home. And there was no. Oh, wait. It was the exact opposite. No, I mean, that's the whole thing. She walked through the door.

She was ready to fucking eat. And it was under goddamn stood that the guy who was not working, the guy who was not getting out of bed and going into the carpool and sitting on the 405 traffic and fucking dealing with all the shit that grandma did not want to deal with when she was 66 years old, that guy, he had a job, fucking kettle on the table waiting when grandma walked through the door. He knew it, she knew it And by the way, everyone around them knew it

It's fine Yeah, it's fine Except for if you swap the genders Now you're fucking animal If you even suggest that I always say Take the genders and swap them We know a lot of guys

We know a lot of guys who have sort of Kept wives-ish You know, they might have kids But they got nannies There's gardeners There's pool, there's maids, there's people in their lives taking care of them. And they don't work. You take that scenario and flip-flop it, make it the dude, it'd be fucking hell raining down on them.

It'd be, dude, what do you need a maid for? You're fucking home all day. Your wife goes off. She's gone all day. She's working every weekend. She's working nights and you fucking got a maid. Sorry, brother. That's embarrassing.

You got a nanny? You pick your kids up from school. If you swap that, that guy would be a fucking pariah. A fucking pariah. He'd be look, everyone to look down their nose at them, and everyone would be passing judgment on that guy. He'd be a fucking barnacle. Swat the genders back. Everyone takes the woman's side.

Hmm. I'm the guy looking for equality here, baby. All of a sudden, I'm a misogynist. Who's the misogynist? I'm just looking for an equal day. My grandfather did not work, but he had a job. And that job was not to supervise the maid. That wasn't his fucking job.

He was the maid. He cleaned the house. He fixed the sprinklers when the head broke off. He went to the supermarket, and he made dinner. and that was the trade-off. And guess what? He had a better deal because he didn't go to that shitty VA every day

and sit in traffic on the fucking 405 all day and carpool was some dickhead who was in the country music and drove a Chevy Love pickup truck with a camper shell. If only had GoToMeeting in those days. If they'd had Go-to-Meeting, she could have done it all from home. That's right. Put her team together from any location for any business. If you need to brainstorm, collaborate,

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Use the promo code, Adam. Go toMeeting.com. Promocode Adam. Meeting is believing. She would walk through that door. And she would make a sound when she came through that door. What was the sound? She'd go like a horse.

She'd go like, you-hoo, Lottie, I'm home. And I could hear him like panicking. Heil, honey, I'm home. Yeah. I could hear him scurry with fear in his voice. Like, he'd go, yes, darling. He'd call their darling. Yes, darling. Now, if she said, you-hoo or woo-hoo, I'm home,

which kind of was his signal meant start moving the kettle. into the dining room, if he did not fucking respond with a yes, darling, in the first minute and three-tenths of a second, the next one was a fucking megaphone bellow. So this is why you insist on pushing women down because you're compensating for the abuse your grandfather lived through. So you see, you're compensating for that, right? Isn't that what's happening here? Pushing women down?

I mean, you're misogynistic because you're angry. grandmother for keeping your grandfather under such, such shackle? No? Or you didn't think anything about it? I didn't think anything about it. She went to work. He cooked the meals. Or it would be, to me, I mean, just as a young person, it was a pretty simple equation.

He got to stay home all day. She brought home all the money, so it was kind of his... To be fair, you probably were jealous of your grandfather's position. You probably envied it. Well, my grandmother was miserable. My grandfather was not miserable. No, I mean, you probably look. How can I get a gig like that?

But there sure as fuck wasn't an element of her coming through the door and him watching TV when she walked through the door. And then her going, where's dinner? And him looking up going, I don't know, what do you want to do? Indian, Thai, sushi? That element did not exist. And I'll tell you the element that really didn't exist. Sweetie, on your way home from work, why don't you pick up some sushi so we can eat? That, that was unheard of.

What would she have done? What would she have done? Yeah, if your grandfather asked for that. I can't even, I can't even fathom if he had told her to stop at the market and pick up some food, you know, for him to cook. Yeah. Like just, even on a Saturday, like, all right, it's Saturday. Go to the market. Get me a week's worth of growth.

You're not working. It's Saturday. Go to the market. No, the market, he would spend her money at the market. That's the money she earned during the week. But she was the one who was going to the market. It was pretty simple. The country was sort of founded on it.

It's a little bit of a barter system. It's kind of understood, right? used to be understood? Not so much anymore. Okay. I'm just saying, and can I say this? It was good for my grandfather. It was good for him.

He lived till 94. It was good for him at age 73. He was probably a few years older than her. He'd get on his three-wheel bicycle. and it had the basket in the back. And he would ride it to the supermarket on an almost daily basis and shop for dinner. And while he was there, he would take a load of laundry to the coin-op laundry place and drop it off of the coin-op laundry place.

And on the way back, he'd probably stop by the hardware store and pick up a little fitting for the sprinkler that he was working on. He was busy all day, every day, taking care of her and the house they lived in, and I think it kept him youthful. He certainly wasn't, you know, chilling and watching TV. Separate from the point you're trying to make, arguably, a simple life like that is extremely healthy. Oh, yeah. No, it's not, we're not doing anyone any favors when we go, hey, don't move.

Hey, you don't have to do anything. Hey, don't get up out of bed. You know, it's funny. My son was doing some field. He's like an intern at a depression company doing some field work. And he was collecting people off the street, and he got one guy. And he goes, what's your job? And he goes, getting money from the government.

Yeah, that's my job. It doesn't help why we think we're helping. If I told Max Appata, go home, you'll get whatever we pay you. You can't leave. I mean, you can leave the house, but you can take no other jobs or we'll stop paying you. I would go into his apartment, which would be filthy. six weeks from now and find a guy had 30 pounds extra weight on him beating off that's what i would find if i sent him home be fair you'd find that wouldn't take six weeks yeah was here well

you've got to this afternoon yeah i put on 30 pounds and four hours he'd be masturbating furiously that's what i would find are we helping why are we helping and then whenever i suggest now let them work for their keep everyone goes huh huh why you sit a dick. It's like, it's not being a dick. It's what we need. It's like saying to a kid, oh, you shouldn't have to do any. Look, if you excel in certain topics like English, that's fine. If you're no good in math, you don't shouldn't have to do any homework or crack a book. And I say, yeah, you need to double down on that topic. Oh, why are you such an insensitive prick? Well, because I'd like the kid to get better in math. For him.

or her didn't we when did we lose that one drew well i noticed i was thinking about this that that we need we need to be inspired again in a weird way that's why i wrote the book yeah it didn't work i know and we we need to inspire people to like everybody let's get going let's get going everybody come on now everybody we'll get going for you yeah yeah not for me no listen i got to tell you Lynette has started a business like from home I've never seen her more engaged

more involved happier dutiful like a sense of purpose you know people stop saying happy happy is fucking sitting in a jacuzzi tub

you're absolutely right you're absolutely right now we've lost the sense of a good life and engaged somehow we're just all supposed to happy like euphoric like everything's pleasant all the time No, no, no, no, a good life. Lead a good life.

And a good life is a contributing life. I agree. You sound like Colin Quinn when you say contributing life. Like your face contours. Listen, I don't want to sound like a dick. Oh, no. You would never. I would never sound like a dick.

But people say to me all the time, you know, they go, oh, hey, you're making that documentary. You're making that independent film. You're doing that catch a contract. Oh, that sounds like fun. You having fun on that contractor thing? That sounds like a lot of fun. I go, no, it's not fun. It's satisfying.

It feels good to provide and get compensated. It's nice that I've been able to make a career doing this. And it transcends fun. It's not fun because it's work. You have to get up early. I have to travel long distances. Just a lot of standing around and stuff. But it's satisfying.

Yeah. And let's stop asking. It's nourishing. Yeah. When did this thing, though? I mean, when did we start asking everyone if they're having fucking fun? Yeah. It's a big deal now.

That sounds like fun. Chris, you're making a documentary about patent trolls. That sounds like fun. You having fun? Hey, by the way, when it stops being fun, that's when you got to quit. Well, we got this idea that work, you know, work should be play. Play and work should be the same. And it's nice when it can be, but it doesn't need to be.

No, we're working right now, and it's a fuck of a lot better than what you and I are used to doing. You're taking stool samples. Me, it's, you know, putting baseboard down in somebody's house. Yes. But we have to be here at a certain time. Sometimes that's fun. You know what I mean? The stool sample and everything.

You know what I mean? But mostly it's satisfying. It's satisfying. It's gratifying. It's gratifying. It's satisfying. All right. Let's talk to Nick.

So as far as the daughter goes, they're going to go through a million and one different phases. Don't even pay attention to it. And the wife is the one that needs to be adjusted, not the daughter. Yes. This September, CBS hits are streaming free on Pluto TV. I'm coming out. For this month only, streamful episodes of Madlock. I'm a lawyer like the old TV show.

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Nick 22, Milwaukee. What's up, Adam and Drew? What's going on, man. So I'm going to Sicily in Italy tomorrow. We're staying in this real tiny town, and I don't speak a lick of Italian. Mm-hmm. Now, I'm also trying to maybe get lucky on this trip. I'm wondering if you got any advice for me.

Who's going? It's actually a bunch of my family, but there's a whole group of us cousins. We're all young, so, you know, we're going to be partying and whatnot. Why aren't you learning some Italian? And forgive me for being so presumptuous, but what about learning? You're going to stay? How long? 10 days.

Oh, 10 days. Oh, fuck it. I feel like most of people who have to, deal with the public, bartenders, waiters, whores. We'll speak enough English for you guys to. He wants to hook up with some.

You're not going to hook up with Italian. Stop it. You're not going to hook up with Italian. Stop it. It's not going to happen. But you look, you can have fun. You can get lucky. You can speak the language of love.

Can you make that circle with your one hand and take your index finger and push it through the other one sort of feverishly? I think that's universally understood. That's not just American. I'm like the one where you make the V and put your tongue through it first. That's the first one you do. Okay, I'll try that.

I'll try that one. Yeah, either way, have fun, have an experience. How many all told from your family are going? How many old folks? How many all told? How many, how large is the group? There's nine of us. Nine.

Find some Americans. Do you imagine going to Italy with nine family members when you were 22? No. Sounds 22. Sounds absurd, doesn't it? Yes. I couldn't imagine going to San Diego with, like, my dad. Going to Italy.

I love, I'm so jealous of everyone's family. Ah, I'll tell you, I wish someone would, when I was young, I wish someone would have stolen my identity and just ran away with it. What would have happened? Just hidden. I could have never gotten it back. It would have been awesome. They'd have a horrible FICO score.

Now you need LifeLock Ultimate. That's right. I have it. Drew has it. You have to have it. It's basically the cost of doing business in 2014. Look, you're online. You're buying things.

Your information is out there. The bad guys are going to find it. They're all some blimp hanger in Russia right now trying to, for the picture of you. And they're trying to get your stuff. I had a ring in from Jakarta on my Google stuff. That's my point. By the way, you think police are going to stop this? We discuss this.

They're not coming to your house when a drunk driver pulls in your living room. Forget about this. I'd love just to call up the Glendale PD and go, hey, I think my identity was stolen, so could you guys kind of hop to it? I probably start cursing at you. I called the cops this morning. You did? Finish your ad. I'll tell you why.

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No longer Adam on this one. It's Drew to save 10% on your LifeLock Ultimate membership. That is promo code Drew at LifeLock.com to get our special 10% discount. Network does not cover all transactions. I was driving on the 134 between like a long stretch before the two. Yeah, we're talking between Pasadena, California and Glendale, California. Yeah, you're sort of over Eagle Rock as you go along the hillside, yeah. And I smelled natural gas like I couldn't, I overwhelmed me.

It, like, hurt my throat. I had trouble breathing for about a quarter mile. And I thought, I got to report this, right? I mean, it's something. There were no trucks around. There was no tankers around or something. I thought, this is fucking crazy. I mean, I've smelled natural gas leaks before in the home.

It's like, you know, you kind of, oh, yes, that day. This was like, my God, my throat is on fire. For a quarter mile, I was rolling windows up and down, trying to figure what the hell was going on. And I called the fire department. You know, I called 911, they put me through the fire department. They went out there and check it out. I don't know what happened. Hmm.

Isn't that interesting? Yeah, fascinating, huh? Yeah. My question, do you, though. Did they say anything? They said, thanks. I said, look, I'm sorry. I don't mean to create more work for you, but, you know, I feel.

I feel like I have to report this. This was really striking. And I couldn't believe other people weren't calling. That was sort of interesting. But my question is, should I have called? Or just let it ride? You know, my, here's my problem. A, I'm sort of like,

eh, sort of like a black youth living in the inner city when it comes to the cops and 911. Like, I've just been kind of trained. Take care of your own business. Don't call the cops. Yeah. I've never really had any I don't want to bother them put them into more work

my wife's had some pretty good experiences with the fire department because she's called the fire department a few times and they've been really good for what she's called them when we've had like rattlesnakes you guys live in rattlesnake territory you make the face

you forget about Molly no you got eaten by rattlesnake she what she got fucking taken out by a rattlesnake in in in the old house right yeah yeah big big time though I mean it's like two big puncture marks right on her fucking snout like she she was dying she was gonna die in another 10 minutes like my wife did not want the rattle snakes around she called the fucking fire department that come on and cut their heads off yeah but either way um cops not so much fire department yes I just never call any of those guys I told it my neighbor's house was on fire I didn't called.

I mean, that's because he was an old douche. You wanted the house to burn down, be fair. I mean, well, I don't want it to burn down. You just didn't want to come to his aid because he'd been such a pain in the ass to you. Listen, everybody, I'm an atheist, and whatever relationship we're having, you will create it. Good or bad. That'll be our relationship. So if you would like to create an adversarial relationship, that's fine.

But I'm an atheist who doesn't really give a shit. So if you want to be a colossal douchebag to me for a number of years, and I think your house is on fire, I'm not going to set your house on fire. I'm not going to ask somebody to set your house on fire. But if I see your house is on fire, I'm not picking up the phone. That sounds very harsh. but perhaps something you should have factored in when you're being a colossal ass prick to me

for the first five years of our relationship. You see what I'm saying? Oh, I do. Okay. Now, what's that make me, Drew? Sociopath. Rough, tough, practical, pragmatic. Don't be a colossal douche.

Don't call Department of Building and Safety on me over our hedge, and don't check unsanitary living conditions when you do. Or, let me explain something. You have neighbors, everybody. You'd like your neighbors to call the fire department if your house is on fire. You'd like your neighbors to grab your dog if it gets out of the lot. You'd like to be able to ask your neighbors if you're going on vacation.

Hey, could you collect my mail? Or maybe their young daughter could babysit for you or many things. But if you're going to go on the attack, with your neighbors, and then your neighbors say sensible things like, well, next time you want the hedge cut between our two homes, which, by the way, the gardener, my gardener, needs to go onto your property to cut the hedge. It cannot be done for my property. But either way, you've decided that's my job.

Feel free to tell my gardener instead of calling the Department of Building and Safety and and arranging a hearing, which, by the way, I never attended. The great thing about our city is that they're so inept that even when there's hearings arranged, you just don't have to show up and nothing ever happens because they're so inept and fucking far behind and fucked up that there's nothing can do. But this guy arranged a hearing for me to go downtown and discuss a hedge. The point is Then When your house is on fire some years later

Don't expect me at 10 o'clock to pick up the phone I'm not Not at all I like it Not going to start it I'm sure as fuck can't call the fire department I think Jules Dash would do the same thing Jules Dash is a hero

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