The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #1700 Jason Momoa Vs Chris Pratt

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Episode two. Throwback episode number two, Jason Momoa versus Chris Pratt. Episode 1700. That's a milestone. March 30th, 2000, 23. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on a choice. I got to get on my, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, Dr. Dr. Drewsport, Futs, Surt, Fudge Packer.

Oh, my God. Industrial or Union? Um, you're scab fudgebacker. You replaced when the union went on strike. Ah. Ha. I was used to say, you know, people go, um, they'd use this term like, you take a look backstage and see how the sausage is made.

And I would say, you know, I really don't like that term because sausage, it just, it feels like a little homoerotic or something to me. Why don't we just say, see how the fudge is packed? Yeah, that's much less. So, much less. All right. Well, hey. Yeah. Before we go to calls.

All right. We'll go to calls. But I've been thinking, I'm thinking about this scapegoating thing and the cartooning and all that. maybe there's not much more to say about it. But I noticed a long time ago that the way audiences relate to celebrity is by rendering them into cartoons. Back when we did Celebrity Rehab, I noticed that everyone had a name that they used publicly. That wasn't their real name. Their persona was quite different from how they projected themselves.

And I remember when Stivo back in like, Jesus, 2011 or something, had an episode where they thought he had a cardiomyopathy and might need a cardiac transplant and he came on Loveline and people were like, hey, Steve, I'm sorry about your heart. Anyway, about my penis. It was like, whoa. And they were just treating him like not as a non-entity, non-person. And I thought, geez, this is interesting how much it is the case that, you know, the people that people watch a media are sort of rendered into cartoons.

but now they've started to make cartoons out of anybody that impinges on them or disagrees with them so to take away their humanity so they can attack them as non-humans, which is really the fundamental mechanisms of scapegoating, which at its core is a narcissistic process. And so again, all roads lead to narcissism. But I don't think we talk enough about the scapegoating mechanism because it's how people hurt other people. They gather together, much as they did at the law school in Stanford, and go at somebody. It's the, but, you know, the guillotine, whatever, you name it through history. It's always been the same. And as, of course, always comes out, the guillotine comes

out in populations that have had lots of trauma, then lots of entitlement. Yeah, I've talked about it on and off the air to you for a long time. It's a micro thing. It's a personal thing. It's also sort of a macro structural sort of thing, which is I think a lot, here's what a lot of it, I'm totally convinced this is really what it is. Okay. You, it's envy is what it is. I mean, really. Yes, that's what it is.

You are doing something that you realize is not the coolest. What? But I'm the coolest. You are doing, you are taking money. from the government when you're able to work. You're taking money from another individual when you're able to work. You are suing a boss, even though you know there was no real discrimination. You're doing something that is wrong, and you're aware of it to some degree.

So what do you do? Everybody who steals an apple from a, from Whole Foods, what's the first thing they say? Oh, these guys are so expensive. They gouge everybody. It's immediately about the other person. They have insurance. How it doesn't affect, they have insurance. You know, whatever.

You see politicians saying it about businesses that were burned down. Yeah. Everyone constantly does the other big. He's not going to miss it. It's a lot of like, you know, oh, you know, you sued Elon Musk for wrongful termination, even though it wasn't wrongful termination. but what's $2 million to Elon Musk? That's a drop in the bucket.

It's like 10 cents. Okay, why are you spending so much time about the other side and how it affects them? Right. And how it's nothing to them? How about you? What are you doing? You took the money. You brought up the frivolous lawsuit.

That was you. Why? Why spending? I mean, Drew, I don't spend time on the other side. I just go, I got screwed out of this or I deserve that. I don't go, it's because so-and-so's bad. If you see too much so-and-so's bad, they're usually setting the table for their immoral behavior.

Oh, of course. It's justified if the person is bad. I mean, of course. There you go. My point is, is what's that have to do with you? It's the gold rule, right? You take everybody bad and you act out on them. Isn't that the golden rule?

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Yeah. Hey guys. Here, so I called for probably been three years ago, and my wife and I were having trouble conceiving and even replayed a clip from our call on ACS where the German government would then pay for fertility treatment after our third miscarriage. My wife has now had her third,

and we've been to a bunch of treatment, and we're not a genetic match. They say, you know, the way are abortions. have happened. I've given blood and sperm and everything, and they just, the doctors here don't think it's possible. She's 38, so, you know, time is sitting. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, what do you mean not a genetic? Wait, wait, wait, wait. What do we mean that mean not a genetic match? What does that mean? It means that my wife had all four abortions within the first like seven or eight weeks. and for whatever reason they don't think that her and I will be a match.

You're saying spontaneous abortions. No, yes. Contaneous abortions. Yeah. Did they do? That's an insane thing to do unless they did genetic testing and then genetic counseling. Did they do that? We went down to a clinic a couple hours away from here and did blood work and went back six weeks later.

And like I say, German is my second language. I didn't totally understand it. We're not at the point that we're adopting, though. And that's, I guess, we're my question. Okay. Because we're pretty, we're pretty, we're happy taking this route. But my question is, now that we're talking to it, there's no private adoption agencies in Germany.

Everything is done through the government or through the state. And they're talking. about, you know, how do you all feel about adopting a kid who might have and history and prostitution, a history with addiction, a history of maybe if it's an older kid based on our age, like if they're

having listened to hundreds of hours of love line, I just have I have more concerns, I guess, than my wife about adopting a kid who maybe was traumatized and is not super young. Yeah.

Yeah, you could end up being like Colin Kaepernick. I mean, probably not that bad, but how dare you? It would be bad. Well, wait a second. For example. Quiet. You're talking about adopting a 12-year-old who may have been abused or like what age are we kind of talking about here? So we obviously don't get a pick.

I've said the younger the better, but, you know, my wife is kind of, more of the mind of, oh, we can help this kid out, we could provide a stable home, you know, we can maybe kind of rescue a kid. And I'm a bit more concerned about that. Yeah, that, that's a fantasy, right? You can make things better for that kid, but, but it's going to be, you're going to need lots of therapeutic services and it's, it's really challenging for sure. If she's up for that, I mean, but loving a child, any stable environment for a child only does so

much depending on the history and all, on the genetics and things. And I think you're also saying you're worried about the genetic heritage, which like anything else with humans, only about 60% of who somebody is is dependent on genetics, generally speaking. So genes are not destiny. I think you can be a little more,

maybe liberals the right word and sort of approaching young children that have genetic backgrounds that are problematic, provided there's not been any in-euter injuries, which is the other issue if you're dealing, you know, from people with bad, you know, bad substance problems and that kind of thing. But these are all really serious concerns. And do the, do the, do you have to do it there? Can you come, can you apply to a private place? I, we could and I think we could afford it as well.

We could come back to the States and do more of a private adoption. We don't have an address in the States anymore. My mom is quite old. My father's passed away. And, you know, this is home now. I get it's hard, man. These are challenging questions because philosophically, also, you don't want to, you know, it's a hard thing to turn away from when people are in need also.

And you're somebody that might help solve the problem. problem. It's very difficult philosophically. I understand. But your thinking is correct. At least you can be rest assured your thinking is good. And you're trying to figure out how to do this in such a way that it can turn out well. And that's just keep

your wits about you as you make these choices. Okay. Well, I wish I had something more yes, I wish that's more discreet to tell you. Your wife really needs to have her eyes open as to what the implications are of adopting a younger person who's been severely traumatized.

Not even severely traumatized. It's just that people have this fantasy that love and nurturing and stability heals all. And it doesn't. It doesn't heal much. It just makes the possibility of healing possible. It's kind of a fairy tale that we've spun for a lot of years. A lot of sort of Disney and Hallmark and they've all sort of spun this thing. thing. You know, we've always kind of done that. And that is, that is not true. Well, it's not impossible.

That's the horrible thing. It's not impossible. It's no, I would argue it's not much different than a severe physical injury. You can put them into a place that has a tub with a door on it and a handicap ramp. And it can definitely work on this thing. But they still have this injury. And And you have to work on it. You have to work on it. And be prepared to trade in the Miata for a van with a lift in it. Right, exactly. All right, Drew.

We got another call here. This is Doug from Sacramento. Doug. Hey, Adam, Drew. How are you guys doing? It's going on, Doug. Going on. Two quick things before I called and just shut me up.

If you want to get to my call. One, Jason Mamoa is a douche. You always ask people like, I'm curious to be the douche. He's a total dush in real life. How do you know? He seems dushy, but I don't know for sure. How do you know? What kind of informs me on that is, like, I think it was,

who's that more Republican actor who does like those seal movies, Chris something? Chris Pine. Anyways. Oh, Chris. Yeah, sorry. You're thinking of Guardians of the Galaxy, Chris? Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt. I said Chris Pryne. Chris Pratt posted a picture on Instagram like, it was like two years ago or something like that, and he had like a bottle of water stand, and Mamo is like, dude, really? Bottle water?

And I wrote this thing. And it was just weird, like, how he called him out in public. And like, it was so douchey. Chris, Chris Pratt is religious. I think he's pretty Catholic. And he hunts.

So that's enough. So what it ends up, what ends up happening, as I tell Drew all the time. Hollywood sort of, they don't have the goods on him, like they don't see him wearing a MAGA hat or find out

that he's a Republican or votes Republican. They just kind of go like, you hunt, yeah, and you go to church, yeah. And you're against school lockdowns, yeah. Okay, we got a profile on you. We know who you are. Yeah, we know who you are.

but we can't really say anything because there's really nothing, but we can, we'll take some jabs because we get it. Yeah. You go to church and you like venison. It's an issue. And by the way, you're right about everything COVID.

So I like the fact that everyone who is right about all the COVID shit now is a scarlet letter. That person's an agitator. That's right. The scarlet letter is not right or wrong about COVID. It is you're an agitator. You do not go along with shit that's incorrect. It's so tired of something. Are you tired?

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Nicotine is an addictive chemical. That's the way I feel about it. If more people would join me, then we wouldn't have this. Your dick or being like you get your dick. We wouldn't have this problem. That's what I'd say. Right. Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, Adam and Drew, actually, there's one thing about wokeness I actually like that I kind of respect. I was wondering what you guys think of. This isn't what I called, but you kind of got me on a tangent here. One thing I like about wokenness is it kind of identifies the people I'd never want to hang out with. You always say, like, oh, the type of guy I can't hang out with. And it kind of shortcuts that. Whereas that's a conversation you have three years down the road somewhere. And you'd be like, ooh, I don't like this guy. You just kind of have it within the first hour.

You can do that with nose piercings. Right. Yeah. But I don't know. Adam is predicting, you know, octagons and safe spaces, California and Florida. By the way, they fucked up our Germany and Florida by sending all the Californians to Florida. Mm. And everybody else to Florida.

I know. But anyway, Doug, what do you got? Okay. So the reason why I called is you made this really funny statement. And I don't think it gets enough credit, which is the people that run the fastest across the streets the slowest. Yes. And I have a less funny version, but I think it's kind of like in the same vein, which is the people that enunciate the most, mumble the most.

And like it just kind of, there's nothing worse in explaining a joke, but my version is, I called an Uber recently. And the dude was of the same world of the fast runners. And I could understand a thing he was saying when you picked me up. And each time I had to have them repeat it like three times. And you contrast that, like if you watch 90-day fiancé, and you have dudes from a big, a big continent, you know, when they talk to people, they go, listen, this is what I am saying.

They enunciate every single word. And then somehow when they come here, you can't understand a thing they're saying. Yeah. So you're saying it's sort of like a Malcolm X, the way like he might speak, although I don't really, but crisp and concise and pop, pop, pop. Exactly. ...op versus Lil Wayne or somebody. Yes.

You talked about that. The other day, you actually played a clip of, I think it was like a L.A. council member, and you're like, I don't know what the fuck this guy is saying. No, no, no. We played a clip. I don't think I played it for you, Drew. We can find it. It's in the computer somewhere, Ben.

I played... Thanks, Doug. I played a clip of a guy who was running for me. mayor of Chicago. And he wanted to get rid of Lori Lightfoot. I don't know they made a sort of three man and woman possibly runoff. I don't know if he made the runoff. Lori Lightfoot is out, you know, because of racism, except for the three other people.

They got elected above her black. But either way, Drew, it's about racism. I always love the fact that this city's not ready for a black lesbian. and bitch, you got elected. Didn't you get elected in that city? Maybe you did a shit job. Is that possible? Is that on the table?

Not when you're the coolest. Not when you're the coolest. This guy was on, I think it was Tucker Carlson, and it was probably about four or five weeks ago. And he was running for mayor of Chicago. And he sounded like a sharecropper from the 1860s. And I was like, this is Chicago. This is the mayor of Chicago.

People have to understand you when you speak. It was comical. I can't remember. Adam, we have a guy that is the senator from Pennsylvania that has a profound aphasia. He can't speak because that part of his brain doesn't exist. Yeah, I know. But that's a hate crime. No, no, that's ableism for you to talk.

I understand. I understand it's abelistic to suggest that. Yes, California is Diane Feinstein, who people are unsure of whether she can form thoughts or sentences. No, she's severely demented. And that is my question, everybody. How far into brain damage do we go before we say somebody is not up to a job? Should she be a truck driver? Should she be an airline pilot?

No. Should Federman be an airline? line pia? No. Please. So where do we, where do we draw these lines of why? Is he still in the hospital for depression?

He's something for something. I don't think we really know what that something is. All right. Well, do you have a spot draw? No. But I know. I made that up. All right.

Let's play this clip. I think you're going to laugh. Just listen at the sky. And Ben, you can figure out whether this guy made it to the top three. or not, but this is him explaining they've got to get rid of Lori Lightfoot. Preferred candidate, an American

hero, joins us tonight. Mr. Wilson, thank you so much for coming on. So when you said that police should be able to chase down criminals like rabbits, obviously we cheered, did you mean that? Well, here's what I meant. How long was a 20-year-old sign. He was murdered by a gun.

These people need to be caught. Two minute restriction on the police department. We need take the handcuffs off the police officer and put them on the people who's actually doing it. And it needs to stop now. This particular mayor that we have right now just keep coming up with excuses, excuses. But people keep dying on the street.

Nobody doing anything about it. But excuse it. So, no, when we become mayor of the city in Chicago, we're going to put a stop to this crime. We're going to take them back our police officer, men and women. get the job done. I'm tired of it. I don't want to see no other family to go through what I've been to. The loss of a son or lose a daughter or something of that nature. We're going to stop it. I mean, crime is voluntary. You get exactly as much as you put up with. Everyone knows that. You're saying it out loud. You've been attacked for saying it by the media in Chicago,

despicably. Most voters must agree with you, though, I would think. Well, you know, it's basically how I feel. I'm tired of it. I look, when you lose someone to love one, okay, you act out of your emotion, okay? Yeah. But we're not like crooks turn around the next week or the next day and commit a crime to someone else. A mayor for a student is protect its citizen, you know? Yes.

And she can pay to do a job. If she cannot do her job, when you get paid to do a job, if you cannot do it, you need to be fired. Just point blank. We do that in corporate America, you know. But this mayor is the worst mayor that I think she'll go down in history. You know, we have to bag out police office, take the handcuff off them, take some of these rules, take some of these policies off them, get them days off, making sure we treat them like heroes that goes out and press them. protect us and we must do this on a continuous basis

and we must make sure that police officers I fucking love this guy I know I like him too but he's not speaking English I don't give a shit what he sounds like I know you're so desperate I know you're so desperate for somebody who just

thinks halfway normally that we're literally we are living in a world now filled with politicians that are hysterical, crazy women spouting out nonsense all over the place. And we have one guy that goes, please ought to take the handcuff off the police.

I'm all for it. I'm a thousand percent behind this guy. I'm sorry, Adam. We rarely disagree on us, though. I disagree with this guy. You get paid, do job. You can pay due job, then you do job. You don't pay. You don't job.

He's got a little facial droop. there. He might have a Bell's palsy affecting his speech a little bit. So he might actually have a disarthria that he has to be very careful. So I think that's some of what you're seeing. You get paid. The content was clear as a bell and it was right on.

It was right on. You get paid, due job, protect citizen. This guy pluralized everything that shouldn't have been pluralized and then went singular on everything else. Listen, Drew. Of course, first off, of course. I would vote for this guy.

Oh, if I lived in Chicago, I would vote for this guy. And yes, he made sense. He made sense like a nine-year-old makes sense, which police, crime, stop. Fine. I get it. I'm not talking about that. I said speaking is insane.

It's insane. And I... It certainly is, I will grant you, it is a far cry from the days of erudition. when people used to make a lot of how they spoke and the manner in which they speak. We don't do that anymore, be fair. That's true. He is, he was fifth out of nine candidates with 51,000 votes.

So I don't think he made the cut is what I'm saying. But, well, maybe I'll just hear the end. Let's see if there's any of the police and the cuff. Respect us and the citizens respect them. Right now, the police officer do something. They're too afraid that they do something. They'll get a lock up. Of course.

You cannot do your job that way, you know? And then look, crime has no color. You know, when you commit a crime, it's hurt, you know. So it has no color. But this mayor here cannot do the job. Keep making excuses. Excuse it after excuse it. People tired and sick of this stuff.

I'm one that running for mayor, I don't want a paycheck. Nothing. Okay? I don't want to fix the problem. our citizen. I want to make sure to encourage our police officer that know, look, we got their back covered. And those people

who run this street are going to commit crime again, we're going to catch them. We're going to catch them and we're going to make sure that they pay for what they have done. And let's get this whole situation right. Yeah. Well, you'll solve the problem if you do that.

Now, here's all I'm curious about, Drew. Yeah. And I know people don't like me for this behavior, but is there anything wrong with you as, like, say, the role of a campaign manager where you go, you know, you should probably say citizens and stop saying citizen. Just say, just practice. Give me 10 citizens in a row.

And the next time you're talking about the police protecting citizens, police protecting Duh, citizen, say police protecting the citizens. Let's try that a couple of days. To be fair, if he has dysarthria, let's get him a speech therapist, a speech pathologist. Yes, something. That's kind of what I'm saying. I mean, I think people, it's a real thing. It's a real thing.

I, you know, I've coached people up my whole MF and life. And they always listen to you too. Always. And that's why they thrive. Always. That's why they thrive because they always listen and they always strive. Yeah. Fine.

People have coached me up a fair bit as well. And then I tend to listen. So it can be done. And it's not really an attack. It's more than your campaign manager wants to win the race, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And people are having trouble understanding you because you sound like a sharecropper from 1863.

There's a better way to approach it, which is, dude, your ideas are great. I'm not sure people can understand them or hear them the way you're presenting them. So let's work on. That's all. Mm-hmm. And he seems like just a great sincere dude, too. I mean, that comes across, right? Well, look, the sad part is I would take him over Gavin Newsom to run California.

Oh, in a second. I would take a pragmatic nine-year-old to do it, just what's going on. You know what I mean? Well, crime, homelessness. All right, what are we going to do? You know what I mean? Like, I would take a pragmatic nine-year-old over Gavin Newsom because he has ideas. And his ideas don't work.

But I think his ideas are more for the cocktail parties are than the actual process. I don't know. I mean, is there any? It's so hard to know with so many of these politicians because they are just slip. right? I mean, again, they pointed Trump as the liar. He lies. God damn. We're realizing just how much they all do. How's Adam Schiff looking these days with the shit he was pulling down on Twitter? That's okay, money? It's okay in the service of something that fits their side or something. Yes, it's the good versus the bad. Where it is.

Well, it's back to the scapegoating mechanisms again. It's the bad. We're fighting the bad. We are the good. They're the bad. Yes. As long as we stay in that position, it's going to be tough. Yeah, I don't, I don't get it, but you have to go somewhere where there's some adult that's semi-pragmatic making policies.

Otherwise, we just, you know, San Francisco's got people just dying in the street and we're arguing over. reparations and it's a bizarre world, which I, like I said, is a distraction to, which is, if there was somebody who was a junkie and a loser and unemployable and so and so forth, and the worse and disheveled and overweight and a mess, and, and, and somebody said, you don't know anything about this person, but they're a fucking shit show in a mess and a junkie and unemployable and everything else. And then and an alcoholic and a chain smoker.

But you didn't know anything. And then that person, you said to that person, like, what's that person doing today? And someone said, he's going out shopping for dress belts and pocket squares. You'd go, oh, we can't. Anyone who's going out looking at dress belts and pocket squares has to be in pretty decent shape, right? I mean, that's not something a crazed junkie would do.

I mean, he's probably pretty far up the corporate ladder. So that's what California does. California has failing schools, failing systems, garbage everywhere, and homeless literally dying and Odeing in the street. and they go, we want all electric trash trucks by 2007, which is the equivalent to he's out belt shopping and looking at pocket square. Yes, yes, yes, it is. That's what we do. Yes.

We go, but there's garbage everywhere. Guess what? That feels good. Right. They can deny the other stuff. Right. I don't know how they do it, but they do it. They seem to just be in denial about it.

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