The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #190: Egos

Episode Date: September 22, 2026

Nov 12, 2014Adam and Drew open the show discussing some of their idiosyncrasies and how they've impacted their development as they moved into their adult lives. They also discuss some ideas for modifying the show as a result of listener feedback and then roll into listener phone calls. Toward the end of the show Adam and Drew get into a discussion about fairness and being reasonable. AdamAndDrDrewShow.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Time for Throwback episode of 2014. We talk about some of our idiosyncrasies and how they've impacted our development as we moved into adult life. God, just how many years ago. We discuss ideas for modifying the show as a result of some listener feedback. Toward the end, you will hear us discussing fairness and being reasonable. All sound like ancient topics given today's world. Check out this show. Throwback, November 20. 2012, 2014. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction

medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on mandate. Get it on. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for telling a friend.

Thanks for supporting over here. Good day, Dr. Drew. I'll say good day, sir. Drew, you do a fair amount of coughing. Yeah, well, here's the thing, a couple things. One is, whenever I get, since about the age of 50, whenever I get an upper restaurant infection, it always goes into this thing that lasts about two weeks

where I'm coughing shit up, in the morning especially. Aha. And when I walk into this fucking studio, and strangely the Lovelin studio, too, I get a post nasal drip and a cough. It's something about the air blown or the fucking, the soundproofing or whatever. So it's great.

I spend about four hours a day in these rooms and on a microphone. You're a Viking. Yeah. I'm genetically superior. I realize that I almost never cough. And I have a weird little post-angel drip and it gets in. I never get any. You know, I remember as a child being very frustrated that I could not summon a loogie.

Sadly, Ray was a loogie. machine. Oh, no doubt. And as a kid, by the way, today, I don't know what they would do, send you to Devil's Island if you lugied on another kid. I don't know. You'd have to be quarantined. Both would have to be quarantined. And then there'd have to be some sort of weird intervention on both of them. The parents would be called in for counselors would be flown in from Bethesda, Maryland. Helicoptered in. Yeah, yeah. But back in the day, Ray is an extension of his fist. Like his fist only extended about three feet, but his Lugie won about 13 feet, you know, so it's like, well, he would, he would, let's be fair, he would deploy whatever body fluid was available in the moment.

It wasn't always fluid, solids as well. There were solids, strangely. And so I saw it, strangely. Whatever form came about. But he, like, you know, you know, in the sixth grade, you know, if you were like talking to him and you're arguing with him or whatever, you just see him to, you know, and it's like, oh, here, here it comes. He's pulling a big, fucking oyster. Now, I would go, and like foam would come out of my mouth. And if there's more than a three-not wind, it would completely be evaporated by the time. You finally cave to just sticking your tag out going, going. Yeah.

We could produce fluid. It seemed like everybody I went to junior high and grade school with could just do the and it just comes sailing out of their mouth. I never could do it. So there must be a mucus genetic component. Yeah. And I just never had the, I have a deviated septum. I don't know if that was, I don't know if the mouth breathing part was it. I don't produce mucus.

Yeah. If you did, though, it would be much more of a problem with that deviated septum. So I think it's sort of, that sounds good just as it is. This is clear as I get. But I never, I never have the, and that. I didn't as a kid either. And I never sneer. except for I have a sneeze fit.

Luce, you have multiple sneezes. Not quite like that. I have a once every two and a half months, I fire off eight to 11 sneezes and then no sneezing whatsoever. It's not a part of my life. It doesn't happen. There's no allergic. There's no, I come walking out into the, you know,

oh, the pollen count is. high and nothing. It's just I can be sitting at home in the same room I watch TV in every night and months will go by and then at some point here goes 10 sneezes in a row, which I thoroughly enjoy. Thoroughly. Again, in a row, break one, two. Well, yeah, not in a super spastic way. You know, some people are like a peop, shup, sure, I think you know who I am, right? I'm not one of those people. You're a Viking. I'm a Viking sneezer. that's right tobar the sneezer

the point is no I sneeze I reload I sneeze again but it's an episode that goes on for it'll be 10 and then never again

yeah and I'm just thinking about my own coughing effed up stuff here and it's worse in the morning and we always record in the morning

but what is the what is the I never sneeze and then I have a small sneezer I I wonder if that is somebody who deviated septum, because it is unusual not to have a certain amount of sneezing.

It's sneezing, in my experience, as I, in a lot of the sneezing, I experience of my own, I can tell it's when something dilates in what's called the Kieselbox Plexus. You get this kind of, like, all of a sudden something's kind of ready to drip. Superman's nemesis. Kiselbox Plexus. That's right. That's right. And so you get the dilatation, you get exudation of,

fluid and you get the stimulation of sneezing. And with your deviated septum, maybe that just doesn't happen as rattling. It's happened with the same mechanical effect. Well, it's weird. My deviated septum, as a very young person, caused drooling. Oh, that must have been beautiful. It was wonderful.

Then, later on, it caused a look of retarded wonderment. So hold on. So hold on here. I'm just thinking about your Viking heritage. Certainly, no one suspected the Viking hiding within with the nappy-headed, drooling, mouth breathing.

Yeah, I had to... What a mess. What I did as a, well, as a young person, I could not breathe through my nose. But certainly your family took you to E&T to have this fixed. No. I had to breathe through my mouth. Now, because my mouth was open all the time, I sort of realize, I remember people, my grandfather, especially, but other people saying, you're going to swallow fly. Oh, yeah.

You know, just sort of shut your mouth. Not in a super negative way, even a sort of busting your chops kind of way, you know. I also realized that what I would do is instead of just hanging my mouth. jaw open and looking like slack jawed. Slack jawed. Yeah. I smiled. So I did a thing where I went and I sort of.

I don't know if it was conscious. I just realized I needed to breathe. And if I needed to breathe with just my mouth hung open, people sort of stop and go, are you confused, Carolla? Or am I boring you? Or, you know, there was a look that looked as if when the coached. was speaking or the teacher was speaking there was a look that didn't look like I was absorbing any information I was like you know so speaking of the cough what I what I did was I instead of just hanging my mouth open with a you know if you're drawing a

cartoon and the person is confused that's how you draw them yeah you know so I turned it into a smile so certainly called like smiley and stuff because I would I'd hang my mouth open and then sort of crack it into a smile. So it was an excuse for having my mouth open. Yeah, I get it. But then I want to know why I was smiling while the coach was talking. While they were abusing you. Yeah.

So it made for this horrible cotton mouth. And as we always talked about since when I was growing up, water was considered bad for you. I don't know why. But when you worked out, you were going to cramp up and couldn't drink water. take salt pills and blah, blah, blah. And all the breathing I did was through my mouth. So you could imagine just running through the San Fernando Valley and your football uniform. And your mouth just getting completely dried out.

I would sleep with my mouth wide open and get my mouth dried out. And it was just that kind of now I've sort of trained myself to either I have a bottle of water next to bed. But it is tough when you go to a place like Vegas. you turn on the air conditioning because it's 102 degrees outside and you go to bed, I just wake up my mouth that's cracked shut. I mean, it's cracked open. Yeah, yeah. It is, it's a big inconvenience.

And then I've trained myself to sort of shut my mouth. I used to always, by the way, eat with my mouth open too because I couldn't breathe. So I would be chewing going, oh, God. And everyone would be like, shut your mouth. You're eating. You're eating. You're eating, close your mouth. I have...

Because now you have to talk and breathe and eat. I've noticed that. I have figured... First off, I don't know and you tell me. Are these... Does the body compensate and or correct itself to some degree or at least learn how to work with what would be a marginal disability?

meaning when I was seven or five and I had a deviated septum, my body didn't know what to do with it other than hang your mouth open and drool. That was its way of dealing with it. Right. But as I got older, my body started thinking, well, you can get little bits of air in between chews, and that way you can keep your mouth shut, but you can kind of learn to work with it. Yeah. And my body learned.

I learned to work with my deviated septum so that when I went out to dinner, I could chew with my mouth shut, except for I'm talking the whole time now. I know. So now my mouth is back open again. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.

But I think that's something that my body learned to work with. I'm always wondering how you swallow with all that talking going on. Well, you know what? You know what cracks me up? You've done this with me. You've been on the winning or losing end of this on a rare occasion. I've had it happen. I find when I go out to breakfast with somebody like Kevin Hensch, my writing partner, and we go out to a breakfast joint, and that's where we would go to write our scripts.

Yeah. And we'd just get into the side corner table and he'd get out his notepad and his computer, actually. A notepad or computer, but either way. First thing we do is talk. We're both world-class talkers, talk each other's ears off about what's going on in our lives, order our breakfast, settle in. That's about a 40-minute journey, and now it's time to work on the script. That's how each session begins with a good, let's get caught up,

let's complain about everything in society, let's eat our eggs, and then we'll start working on the script. The thing that I've noticed is it's rarely a 50-50, deal. It is either he's got a lot on his mind and it's his turn to talk or I have a lot of my mind. It's my turn to talk. Either? He can talk. How off? What percentage of the time? He's a pretty damn good talker. Oh, yes. It is, no, it is 50-50 with him. It's 90-10 with you. It's 50-50 with Kevin. But the thing that I always find funny is you can always tell because at the end, of the 20 minutes or half hour after the plates arrived, I look down and my plate's full and his is empty.

Right. Or vice versa. Right. You can just look at the plate and go which side of, I could walk to any table in the diner and go, who's the talker? Yeah. It's like full untouched Denver omelet and hash rounds, completely unmolested versus guy just putting the finishing touches on his last piece of cottage fry.

Yeah. Funny you would bring this up because yesterday, I don't know if you guys saw this on Reddit. Gary, do you say that whole Reddit thread? Huge. You didn't? Which one? Which one? There was a giant.

Come on Hash Browns or Denver. On this show. On this show. You're right. What the fuck was I talking about? Why would I say? Did you see Reddit yesterday? Because you have, you suffer from something.

That's what we complain other people do. No, you live with your wife. Yes. And? Your wife. says things like Marcia says you should never do that. Yeah.

And you go, you have to try to figure out who Marsha. I don't know anyone named Marsha and she'll go, oh no, you don't know Marsha. She's a friend of mine.

And you'll go, okay, well, you say a friend of yours then. And what that is, it has to be like. Right, right. I don't know what that is. It's usually cold

from something 20 minutes earlier in the conversation. It's usually a name, but what I would do is replace the name with my friend says. No, no, I mean the that.

Marsha said you shouldn't do that. And that may be a thought from 20 minutes ago, too. But Marcia is someone I don't know. But because you used her name, I'm thinking of who I know named Marcia. Right. So Reddit had a huge explosion about this show, like, you know, hundreds of threads, hundreds of comments and stuff. And somebody got me on Twitter. Like, you've got to get ringing.

I didn't have time. I was happy to, but I didn't have time. Why is it there was a huge explosion on this show, but I never heard of it. Let's read it. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm eyebrows that, was it on the Adam Carolla subreddit? No, no. It was just sort of like, who thinks this show sucks?

Who thinks it's great? And just a random thing. And they sent me the thread and on and on and on. And it was, the critics agree, as always. Who's they? Just Reddit users, you know. Oh, who sent it to me? Yeah.

Some Twitter follower. Somebody on Twitter said, you've got to ring in on this. I'm trying to defend you. And I was like, thank you. I really appreciated that, actually. And as always, the critics agree. You know how it goes. Sure.

It's going both ways. Sure. But I thought of this because your breakfast model with Hensch is essentially the model for how we do this show. Eventually we get to the calls. I'm wondering if we should get to the calls sooner. Well, people want they'd like to hear that. The calls. Well, yeah, because they know they have a format that they're used to hearing us.

They're familiar with. Yeah, yeah. So should we make an effort to get to the calls? I'm fine with that. It's not that easy because they have to tweet out that we're taking calls and everyone goes, two hours later they go, well, when are you taking calls? Why did you? Okay.

Yeah. No, it's not the same as radio that starts every night at a certain time and their calls waiting when you come into the studio. This is not as friendly an environment to taking calls. We don't walk into the studio and stare at a bank of calls. Now, we could. But if we did do that, it would prompt us. to take calls earlier.

Exactly, exactly. If you'd like to do that, I'm fine with that. Okay, so why do we right now announce the time that we record this so people who hear this that would like to call can anticipate? That would be fine with me, but, and I think we can do it as best we can, we do it at about the same time. Most weeks. Most weeks, but I work around your travel schedule sometimes.

So for the most part, it's 10 and 11 a.m. on Pacific time on Monday. Tuesday. What is this, Tuesday? It's on the website. It's on the website. It's on the website. Gary.

Oh, he just likes to fucking gesticulate over there. Like, like, you know, I'll figure out that it's Tuesday, not Monday, even though I said Monday. All right. So, well, you immediately corrected yourself. Yes, exactly. So, no clowns?

We're fine. Either way, you guys can load up those calls. And if you'd like us to get the calls earlier, call in. Call in. And then we will walk in and we will look at a bank of calls, and thus we will take those calls. All right, so we will take your calls, us, meaning me and my podcast, Portland, Seattle,

only a few tickets left for both. I'm not even going to talk about it anymore. Anaheim, Agora Hill, San Jose, coming up. And what you can do is you can go to Adamcroll.com, and you can find out where the live shows are, where the Mangria signings are, and all that. The mountain has come to Mohammed, by the way, for the Mangria signing, because in Portland, we're doing it at the hotel. Oh, nice. Yeah.

Why not? Why not? I come down in a bathrobe of the boner, and we take care of business. Well, no, you know what happened. Gary, you got to go online and show Dr. Drew that line in Portland. At a liquor store or at hotel? At a liquor store. which is the following.

We do these mangroia signings. We don't know how many people are going to show up. It's hard to allow. There are times when we allow for two hours, and it takes 40 minutes. There are 80 people showed up. And then there are times when we allow for an hour and 400 people show up.

And you've got a picture of this schedule, which is... I know. I've done it with you. I've witnessed it. Land in Portland at 5 o'clock, Mangria drive straight to the Mangria signing sort of out of town at 6 o'clock. That's already an issue, right? Getting to this wherever the health of place.

First show, first show, and I'll just show you basically the line. But the first show is at 7.30 and the second show in Portland is at 10. And we're walking. I've got to sign all these people's bottles. and they go through the liquor store, weave through the liquor store, head out the door, and then they head down the street.

And I don't want to leave people who have been waiting in line for this period of time out in the cold. On the other hand, there's two shows to do that night, and it's not that close to where we're going. The theater is not that close to the liquor store, and then it heads out into the street and then down the sidewalk.

and it just keeps going. Oh, my God. Yes. The inside the store is interesting, but outside is insane. Yes. Well, that's Portland, and God love you, Portland. How far does that go? Well, it keeps going.

And by the way, it... Did you get through that line? I got through the line. If you could imagine, you know, the first world, white privilege problem. But I do say it to my wife all the way. the time like listen i stand there and i fucking power through that line no i know i've done it with you and we do it well to show the first the early show starts at 730 it's 545 or 6 o'clock the theater's

25 minutes away i mean we got no choice and i stand there and take a picture with everybody but they of course want to talk and chat and you know they're mangrim waiting a line i'm waiting a line You really have to lay down the law in this case and go, I am so sorry, but there's a show tonight. A lot of people are going to the show. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, the thing that's always funny is when people look at their watch and see that the show starts in 37 minutes and see that there's still 25 people behind him in line and go, how are you doing the show? It's funny because they'll go, I'm going to the late show. Yeah.

I don't know. How are you going to make the early show? God bless us. And then they want to talk. And then they launch into conversation. We make it, and then we go out and I do the show, and we do the show, and then we go sign in the lobby in between, and then we go do the late show, and then we go sign in the lobby after the late show.

And I try to explain to my wife, you do not know what a fucking grind that is. And she usually sympathetically replies with, let me shut off the jacuzzi jets. I can't hear you. What were you saying, sweetie? as Molly floats by in a raft. What was that now? Let me put down my mimosa. What are you talking about?

Long line and then two 90-minute improvised comedy sets and then back to the back to the line. This now this year it's pick your poison. And I've chosen my loudnum and it's a lesser of loudnums. Powerful speak. How do you know what Lawnham is? I don't know. I know certain poisons. So that reminds me.

The point is this. I said to Mike August, look, instead of rolling into Portland and doing the whole signing cluster fuck before the two shows in Portland, maybe we can move it to the following day. Sure. Why not? I'll tell you why not. Now it's the lesser to loudness. You have to get up early to get to the plane, blah, blah. No.

Here's what Saturday becomes. Yeah. Saturday becomes Mangria signing number one in Portland. Three-hour drive, Seattle. Mangria signing number two, Seattle. Then two shows in Seattle that night. With the in-between signings. Right.

And the after-send. So you've slid this signing into Saturday, which sounds like a marvelous plan, except for now you're looking down the barrel of what is going to be your Saturday. Is that what you're going to do, though? That's what I'm going to do. And, you know, as I said, and as I try to say to everybody, you know, when they do the, oh, man, now that you're living the dream, I tell them work is work. and I enjoy this kind of work a hell of a lot more than roofing. Don't get me wrong, but it's work. But do not confuse it for something other than work.

Do not confuse that Saturday for anything but work. It will start in the lobby of the hotel at 9.45 in the morning, and it will end when the last autograph is signed in Seattle at about 1.30 the following morning, and then the flight will be caught. The Southwest flight will be 8 a.m. Once you're done, you're done. Oh, no, wait. It starts up again in the morning

and then the same thing the next weekend. That is correct. Oh, there we go. All right. Portland, by the way, has got a deal, $159. You get the premium guest room. You get free overnight parking,

which anyone who stayed in a hotel, you think that's a little parsley about the side of the plate? Oh, no. No, anyone who's ever looked at that bill and won $89 for a part. We were here for a day and a half. Yeah, well, you showed up on a Friday. You left on, we showed up Friday night at 11 o'clock.

Well, you left on a Sunday. That's three days. We left Sunday morning. We were here for 30 hours. Well, that's three days. Yeah. The biggest grift of all time is parking. And you want to know why?

Why? every every rip-off that you will see in society all the big-time rip-offs, all the parts where it's like you get, as I said, you get your car, and this has happened to me,

motorcycle, impounded on a Friday night, and you pick it up Saturday morning. That's two days in the impound yard. Now you go, well, no, wait a minute. It's been 11 hours. No, no, two days. Okay. The biggest grift is parking, and the biggest grift is not only parking, but especially any

kind of overnight parking or any kind of tow yard, impound lot, whatever. Any time there is a situation where we have your shit and you can't get to your shit, guess who's making the rules and guess how it works. You see, when there's deals like. You know, you deliver me my food, and when I'm done eating my food, I shall pay you. Yeah. You know, nobody thinks, nobody goes to Chili's, nobody goes to TGI Fridays and goes, God damn, they totally screwed us on the appetizers. They said, you know what I mean?

Yeah. They said it was a bottomless salad bowl. They lied. Yeah. No, that doesn't exist. It exists. When you're going to a hotel and you're checking out, you're looking at a fucking parking, the fucking tax. They took your credit card.

They have your credit card. Not only that. It's also a great and clear example of the Invisible Hand, which is when there's competition, if there were other parking nearby, you would happily take the lesser. But when they have the monopoly on the local service and they have your shit, it's game on. Well, that's why. we're including it, and you get a free bottle of mangrovee, and you get a VIP pass to the signing the next morning. That just means get to the head of the line.

Get to the head of the line. Details at Adamcarollett.com. But good price, by the way, for Portland especially, and you get the premium guest room and all that stuff. So it's the Portland Sheraton. It's a good deal. What's woman's name that does Portlandia, the comedian? Carrie Brownstein.

Carrie Brownstein. Yeah. Carrie Brownstein. That's right. It's right next to Brownstone. And I'm a big fan of that show, and I've talked to Fred a million times, and I was too intimidated to say hi to her. Oh. Yeah.

That's quaint. Yeah. Retarded. All right. You'd like us to take phone calls. Do we have, if you have phone calls, by all means. Oh, look at that. Yeah.

Go ahead and toss them up because I'm just filibustering. Before you do really quickly, you mentioned the Loddenham, which reminds me my favorite show on TV. Is that poison? No, it's an early opiate, basically. Right. And the Nick, guys, the Nick, go watch it. It's about a hospital at the turn of the century. So good.

Clive Owens is this doctor, a surgeon, you know, wild man trying all these new techniques. Addicted IV cocaine. It's fantastic. Fantastic. What network? Cinemax. Oh, I see. Yeah, I think you get a lot of stuff at Cinemax.com.

John? 26. Austin? All right, yes. What's going on? Sorry, just a little bit nervous. Yeah, a long-time listener. Love you guys.

Listen to your show all the time. Yeah, 26-year-old out here. I put down Austin, Texas. I'm actually in a small town just outside of it, Maynard. I don't think anyone's heard of it. Gladdy brought me out. Because we never heard of it. Sorry.

I'm a 26-year-old virgin. I've never asked the girl out. technically a girl asked me out and I went on date with her once and then panicked and never talked to her again. In general, I tend to kind of panic and... What are you doing for living? Right now I'm a pizza delivery driver. Right now?

Right now, yeah. Pizza delivery guy. Hey, John. What do you think your parents did or didn't do to you to give you this condition if anything at all. Could be Janag? Well, was it, growing up most of my time, I lived with my dad. He was, I mean, it's kind of weird.

He was sort of a good parent in some ways, but in other ways, he was very explosive and very likely to kind of just blow up over small, weird things. Okay, well, that makes me anxious just thinking about it. But did he instill in you? Well, that kind of waiting for the shoe to drop. Yeah, no. But as guys, I really realized, Drew, that as I sort of sat back and had plenty of time to observe guys being successful with women, like starting at 13, 14, 15, junior high, it was a personal momentum. It was a sort of, I feel good about myself.

since guys, it's a little less, for women, it's less of a visual thing and a little more of a sort of a personal momentum. Yeah. I found that the guys that sort of had it sort of just had that momentum, whereas other guys just felt sort of sad and confused. And I always felt like those guys came from a structure where they just, some of it's just genetic, but some of it was just they had a structure that they came out of that gave them it. Was your dad, meaning, did your parents or dad say you were stupid or worthless or, you know, who could ever love you or any of that stuff? Or your mom who'd abandoned him, by the way. Let's think about that. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Well, was it, like, my mom wasn't aggressive violently or, I mean, aggressive with me. My dad did call me a bitch once. Did punch me in the face once. Oh, dude. That's profound. I should mention, though.

Those guys still get laid at time. The guys get punched in the face? Arguably, they get laid more than the guy. I wish my dad would have punched me in the face. I could have got fucking laid once. Well, I should mention him for not punching me in the face. I should mention the whole time that I was growing up with my sister, my dad was molesting her.

Oh, for Christ's sake. And I didn't know the whole time. I kind of, like I assumed before she used to have night terrors when she was younger. and I assumed that he was kind of there for her, but I never, like, put two and two together. Oh, my God. All right, John, listen, this is, forget, you know, the nuances of your self-esteem, Adam.

This is all meltdown shit. So, John, let's get some treatment here, right? I mean, there's trauma, there's physical abuse, has domestic violence, there's horrible covert secrets in the family. There's abandonment by the mom. It's just the fault. It's the trifecta.

It's everything. And naturally, you have an anxiety disorder. naturally you'd have a mood disorder. Naturally, it would be hard to have relationships because the relationships are scary places for you. So let's get in the therapist office, my friend. There's a lot to be done. John, there's, I mean, don't get obsessed about the whole getting laid part, although it's not going to hurt, but, I mean, there is a lot of fish, a lot of fish to fry here.

Well, actually, I put virgin down just because it would make the call more interesting, I guess. All right. The point is this. if half of what you're telling us happen, you need to by the way, I don't even you know, it's funny when I used to hear about all this stuff. You got a love line.

Love line. And in general. You know, you just sort of hear about it. And you sort of go, yeah, that's what happens. People molest their kids, you know. You get it. Then you have kids.

And, you know, as one human being to another, when I hear about carjackings and bank robberies and, you know, even ethnic cleansing, I kind of go, all right, well, there's the Turks over there and there's Armenians over there and all right, they don't get along and they've decided that each other are evil. And there's violence. There's violence. But, you know, it's not a good thing. But you sit back, you look at the wars, you look at the terror. You look at the micro and the macro of crime and what one human being can do to another.

And you go, all right, well, not for me. But this isn't the turn of the century and I'm not a Turk. But when you look at your daughter and like, oh, I'm going to have sex with my daughter, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't calculate. It's not, well, all right, it was a different time and I was a different person. Yeah. It doesn't, first off, good luck with my daughter. She kicked a shit out of you.

I get a fucking, you get a head butt. You get the shit kicked out of you. And she's a loudest person on the planet. You never get away, number one. Why don't you've thought about it, but, yeah. Well, you know. You planned. Yes.

Point is this. It doesn't make sense. And when I think about bawling up my fist and punching my son. Can you imagine? It doesn't make sense. It's not only doesn't make sense, you get like a visceral reaction to the thought of it. Right. It gives you like a horror, terror, like a disgust and more.

I understand arsonists better than I understand that. Yeah. I understand the lure of the flame or something like that, whatever it is. The adrenaline rush you get with that. You get a, well, I can easily not do that because even though I get the excitement, I don't need the excitement. But when you think about striking your son, it's like, eh, there's no excitement. excitement is no nothing. It's just, oh, like what? Yeah, it doesn't, I mean, look, I get the thing where Natalia comes up and kicks you in the nuts and you reflexively push her away or something.

But the part where I come in and I told my son three times to shut the ceiling fan on and it's still running and now he's taking a beating. Well, there's some, that's a weird impulse. And now you can see videos of this shit online occasionally. you'll see that come up on Facebook and whatnot, and you see it looks so barbaric. And the kids being shaken or something and picked up and the terror of a little tiny kid. It's just unbelievable. All right. Jared has a question from Portland.

Strangely. Jared? Yeah, I'm here. Hello, you too. I've heard Adam say this, I think, more than once. And I'm pretty sure that he, it's not that he has no, it's not that he has high self-esteem, or low self-esteem. He has no self-esteem. And I kind of adopted that. And last week, I told my girlfriend that, and she said, she agreed, but I really care about my ego. And I asked

the difference. She said, well, I'll go into a conversation and say something ridiculous or outlandish. I mean, it might make sense, but most people would look at it as, you know, odd or strange and I'm putting my ego a risk which I care a lot about but my but because I have no self-esteem that's why I'm saying it. And I tried to juxtapose in my head but I didn't really understand. Yeah I think she's talking about these are terms that are rather sort of ill-defined and certainly tossed about without any great accuracy for sure. Adam and I like having low self-esteem because it makes us try harder you know in case you always trying to do better and be better You know what I mean?

I mean, people with low self-esteem tend to accomplish more. And by the way, they had no self-esteem. You also, well, let's come on. And you also tend to adapt to the environment. The environment goes, hey, asshole, you go, yeah? What can I do better? What did I do? Because you're expecting that you're not worthwhile, so therefore people will find things in you that need to be changed.

As opposed to you have high self-esteem, well, why should I change? I'm good. Right? Well, you know, I think it comes down to this. For me personally, and we'll get into Jared for a second. Yeah, I will. And I think you can do this, I think, although sometimes you feel a little persecuted emotionally. Me?

Yes. See how quickly I answered that? I can't wait to see how this works. Go ahead. Well, I was saying to... Oh, oh, I see, by the Twitter. I'm sorry. Go ahead, yes.

Yeah. I was saying to Lynette the other day. Look, what I'm able to do because of my horrible family is completely remove myself. I can remove myself from the discussion that centers around me. Yeah, yeah, I get it. And I can stand next to it, like Judge Wapner, Judge Judy, and make a decision on something that involves me. Yeah. Most people cannot stop their needs in once.

Yes. And I'll give you a very good, just basic, straightforward. example of how it works. On last weekend, we were going to Sacramento. There was a whole debacle, and I can tell you about that at some other point. I covered it on my podcast. Mike August said to me, we're going to the Burbank Airport. Can you come pick me and Chris Maxapada up or coming with me to Sacramento at my house before

you go in? Now, the way I drive in from the 134 to the 5 is the way I would prefer to go, sort of cut across, get off on Hollywood Way, and I'm at the airport. But I'll spend an extra nine minutes staying on the 134, getting off on Hollywood Way, picking Mike up at his place, and going that way. Probably added 10 minutes to my overall commute, right? but I removed myself from the equation. I said, well, there's Chris and there's Mike, and they're at his house. And I'm the star of the show, but I'm frequently go to Mike's house and pick him up at his door, which sounds a little. Well, no, but I don't think it works that way with Mariah Carey.

Okay, got it. I don't think she picks up the people that are working for her. They pick her up. They say, most celebrities say, I don't care if it's out of your way, you come get me and take me, quiet. Now, I thought about it. I weighed the options. Why should we drive two cars? He shouldn't come pick me up.

Yes, I would like to just turn from the 134 to the five. It's faster. It's a straighter shot. I have to get off the freeway and then drive surface streets. You've added 10, maybe 15 minutes to the equation. Fine. No problem. The next day, Mike and I,

I had to be basically downtown Santa Monica. We had to be just on ocean, right on the ocean part, right on the beach pretty much by the pier in Santa Monica the following day. Mike said, come on down. The 134, the one of, you know, pick me up, take the 405, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, well, you know, Mike, I'm planning on just kind of taking the two. to the 5 through downtown to the 10. I'm going that way.

That's way faster. It's significantly faster. It's not just 10 minutes out of your way. It could be half hour out of your way. Mike did not see it that way, but Mike did not argue at all. And Mike said, well, why don't you come pick me up about 2 o'clock and we'll beat the thing by whatever? And as I picked him up the day before. And I said, Mike, I'm planning on going backside through downtown.

I think it's quite a bit faster. and sorry, my friend, but this time you come meet me at my house. So what did I do? I removed myself from the equation. Also, by the way, as you weigh the scale of justice, you're very good about going out of your way for other people. You know what I mean? It's not like you're not like codependent where you have to do it all the time.

You do it when it's reasonable, and you're good about it. I remember you did it for me once. I'll not forget it. When I smashed my car up, remember that? I have some guy ran into me in that Jeep. I remember early in the live line days. And you drove me home all the way home. And I was like, wow, that thing, I could take a cab.

You're like, fuck that. I'm getting my car. And that kind of, when somebody goes out of your way like that, you don't forget it, too. It makes you do other things for other people, as a matter of fact. Well, thanks. And I'm certainly not one of these guys that bends over backwards for everyone. No, that's the point. You're not codependent, but you're reasonable.

And you're giving. You're reasonably giving. Well, it was literally a 24-hour period where Mike Austin. wanted me to pick him up at his house two times. And you reasonably said no. Well, reasonable. Right. It was very, you weighed the scales.

But completely. But I was out of the equation. I get it. It's strange you would bring this up. David Arquette was on a radio show last night. Ah. Love line. And by the way, you've got to call him and get him out over here.

He wants to promote his movie, a movie called The Key. And, you know, David's an interesting, truly lovely guy. Yeah. So David's being David, and we say goodbye, good night, good night, and I'm driving away. And there's David on the corner of, like, Washington and Higera. Like, looking at his phone. I'm like, Dave, what the fuck are you doing out here? Yeah, no, I got to get, I'll get a cab or something.

I go, get in the fucking car. I'll drive you home. Are you kidding me? No, no, no, no. So there's another one that, you know, is probably a little bit like you, not, certainly not demanding. And I drove him home. It took me an extra 10, 15 minutes. Who gives a shit?

It's still heading west, you know. Right. And it was easy. No, what I would like out of society is everybody remove yourself from the question that's being asked, and now we can honestly answer the question. When you're involved with the question, it's funny, I was talking to said Mike August yesterday. The Mike Augustine question? Yes. About a business deal and about a guy we know who's very knowledgeable.

about business and how to approach this and what's fair and what kind of deal do you want to strike and so on and so forth. And I said, I'm glad this guy knows a ton about business because the fact that he knows so much about business means, see, people think he'll be fair. Right. People think, oh, he knows a ton about business. So he's going to screw you guys over. No, no. He knows what's fair and knows what to ask for and knows the worst cases I've ever had. is getting in business with people who knew nothing about business and you think, oh, well, you're just going to steamroll those people. Oh, contrary. They don't understand why they don't own everything, even though they don't pay for anything or do anything.

It's the opposite. You actually want people who know life, know themselves, no business. Then you can deal with them. And I think Drew and I, I don't believe we've ever had a discussion where we've both walked away and went, well, that person is, 100% wrong and I don't know. We just have the, should you pick me up? Shall I meet you here? Shall we drive together?

Should we, and then we get to it? But if you're going to say to every argument, if you're going to factor in, but it's me, now you cannot reach the truth or logical conclusion. Because Mike feels, if Mike is doing but it's me, then his plan is I show up Saturday, put a coat of wax on his car and blow him. Then I show up on Sunday, drop off $100. That's the usual. And a pony cage, wax his car again, blow him again, and take him to Santa Monica.

Oh, no, that's you for Adam. Well, he has to roll downhill somehow. But there's people who met the majority of human beings think that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but let's bring it all the way back to this guy's call and his question about ego. I think she's talking about self. I think that's what she means by ego, that I have a delicate. sense of self. And when people judge me, it makes me feel attacked and I have to defend myself.

That's a little different than the esteem with which the self is held. And being feeling kind of fragile certainly can be associated with low self-esteem. I don't think you and I feel fragile because we feel like, we feel like, yeah, if you give a shit, we deserve it. We feel a little more deserving of because of the low self-esteem, right? I don't feel like I deserve it. I don't feel like I decide whether I have done somebody wrong. No, no, no, no. And then if I get shit, that'll be up to them.

It will not affect me unless I think I've done them wrong. All right. But since it's like here's all about this, they will not have done wrong. But here's what I'm saying. Here's what I'm trying to tell everybody. Sorry, back to Mike August. Try to tell them about Evoys, aren't you? I am.

but back to Mike for one second. A lot of people in Mike's situation, when I said on Sunday, oh, no, I'm not picking you up. You drive out to my house. Could have said, your house is way out of the way. Gas is expensive. I do so much for you. This is, you're screwing me, man. In which case, I would have just not even blinked.

He could have said, you are fucking me over royally. And I would have went, that's fine. Yeah. Because I already know in my head. that I picked you up the day before and I plotted my route to Santa Monica and I already know before I ask you it's completely reasonable

otherwise I wouldn't have asked it so Mike could have said I'll never talk to you again you're the worst person in the world you fucked me and my family and I would have just went home and slept like a baby because I already figured it out and then that's up to him that's how people

need to fucking go through life Chris is smiling but you knows he knows what I'm talking about right he got picked up on Saturday It was nice. Thank you. Thank you so much for the support. Thank you so much for clicking through the Amazon banner and bookmarking us at Adam Corolla. com.

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