The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #284: Diora Baird

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Adam and Drew open the show welcoming our guest model and actress Diora Baird to the show. After talking to Diora about some of the upcoming TV and web series work that Diora has coming, the conversation turns to Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes’ custody situation. After taking some calls, they turn to the recent Bill Cosby controversy and the lesser known examples of similar notorious offenders in the entertainment industry.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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All we have is you and your ability to communicate with other folks. Giora Baird is here. Did I get both of those right, Giora Baird? Pretty much. It's a lot of vowels. Yeah. I'm bad. But you're good. Thanks for coming in. Sometimes. Giora, oh, she's an actress who you recognize from many, many projects. Wedding Crashers. One of my favorite movies, by the way. It's weird. It's where the comedies don't comedies get dismissed. Oh sure especially frivolous comedies like that, you know, but it was a great film I completely agree with you

But it's a weird thing because whenever you talk to an actor or writer or anybody they go Nothing harder than comedy comedy is the hardest thing to do. And then the Academy Awards roll around. It's like, all right, all you comedies, get out of here. Scram. Scram. We got the guys talking to us. Strangely enough, a comedian hosts the thing. Right.

And then they'll explain it's the hardest thing to do. But then we'll have the French old couple waiting to die inside their flat, their Parisian flat. And they'll go, that's going to get 22 nominations. New Hulu series, Casual, Wednesdays on Hulu. Tell us about this, Diora. It's Jason Reitman's project. Oh, your buddy, yeah. I like that guy. Yeah, it's a very real...

Yeah, that's how he does it. When I went into makeup and hair, I was like, so we're not going to really do anything. I was like, oh, okay. And now you're going to take off your clothing. Oh. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, good. Well, there's a lot.

I mean, it's Hulu, so there's a lot of sex. Well, I mean, there's a lot of sex in everything nowadays. Yeah. They are promoting the shit out of this thing. Yeah. Isn't it kind of crazy? You know why I know about this? Carano's girlfriend, Mike Carano, who if you have episodes in DrRudy.com plus Jepnoid,

so what episodes those are, Gary, when you go to, when you sign onto Hulu, you click onto it, however you get onto the page, it is a full screen picture of the three leads which were in the first two episodes, which I've actually seen because Mike Carano's girlfriend plays the daughter of the therapist that's the main lead, whose uncle is sort of a sex addict. It's a long story. The uncle, I don't know why I know so much about this damn thing. I didn't even know Dior was in this until just now. Dior, tilt your, well, thanks for doing your homework. Tilt your mic down to you and get up on it. Is that better? Oh, there it is.

So on the left, I'm talking about the poster for the casual TV show or Hulu show. On the left is a woman that plays a therapist who's recently broken up in a divorce. The girl in the middle is her daughter who's a drug addict, sex addict, 16-year-old, and the mom is extremely tolerant of her bullshit. On the right is her uncle, who invented an app that's a dating app that puts people together where they act out on each other, basically, and antics ensue. Yes, I've seen this stuff all over the place, and God bless Hulu and all the other companies that have come in and done what the Japanese car manufacturers did, the American car manufacturers did, did to in the 70s, which is, hey, you better up your

fucking game or you're going to be obsolete because your market share is dropping fast because we're putting out a better product over here that people want. And it's now it's funny, I was to the stone pellet and Mike August about this People don't even have allegiance to a brand or a network anymore. They don't even know they just go orange This is new black. I love that show. What what's it on? It's on my computer. So my TV someone like what what what what where do you find it? Like it's just on between Netflix and then Apple TV. it's like an entirely different market and as an actor, it's changed the game. There's definitely benefits, but now the competition is way bigger.

Let me ask this. Are the salaries down? The prices that they pay you now? Is that sort of standard? The salary has been down across the board everywhere. You've always gotten paid less for cable. The better the show, the less you get paid. Typically, that's the way it goes.

But rates have gone down even in network, like through screen tests, when you have to make your deal, they've gone down once the market crashed. I mean, let's just explore this for a second, Drew. Really quickly, Mike Cronoad, Dr. Drew Podcasts, episodes 24 and 99. I've been staring at that for a while ago what the fuck does that mean I see 2499 like all right just say 25 bucks I'll pay you

don't be an asshole so let's let's let's digest this for a second we all know that's happening radio right dr. Drew yeah I mean terrestrial radio everybody's prices are down everything is spread out all over the place you can listen to whatever you want to listen to, wherever you want to listen to it all the time. And thus, guys that were, I'm not going to mention any names, but marginal talents were making millions of dollars a year doing radio. Those days are gone. You have to sort of deliver the goods now, otherwise. You could argue, thankfully, those days are gone. Well, thankfully for me, not for them.

Not for them, but I mean for the markets, become more efficient, effective. Also, I think social media had a huge part in that with Vine. Yeah. I mean, there's Vine stars. There's literally people who have shows because of YouTube. You're right. So what we've done is we've really let the free market vote with their wallets in their eyes and ears and we've decided it's fine and that's good. And now, unfortunately, there's gonna be some people that get rich off of this, but it's gonna lower.

If you're just a guy who worked in radio, whatever you made in 2005, you're making a lot less now if you have a job at all. And I've talked a lot of guys in radio that are just looking for a job and they talk to them and they're like, how much were you making eight years ago? 400 grand. What are you looking for today? 250, but I'll take 180180,000 and I'll move. But that's what the market is saying. Now, people are like, oh, I feel sorry for that guy. No, that guy was overcompensated for a long period of time.

Feel good for him. But you think about back in the day, you take a show like Therese Company, and then you take Suzanne Summers, and I think they got a couple of seasons in and she was like fuck this I'm the star of the show I'm gonna really get paid and at some point they shit canter but the point is I don't think Suzanne Somers has proved herself to be a fine actress and nothing personal I like her but I think she wouldn't call herself a thespian do you know what I mean yeah look over the body of her work.

Is she doing roles and features or she sells stuff? She makes money. She did workout videos. She made a lot of money off of that. Was that like thigh? Thighmaster. That's right. Butt smash or whatever. She makes money. That's fine. I don't begrudge her that at all, but I don't think acting is in her blood. Well, yet there was a point in 1981 where she was like, hey, unless I'm getting enough episode to buy a medium-sized house in the San Fernando Valley, I ain't showing up. Well, those days are gone. And as a matter of fact, I don't even know if

someone like that would be employed today. Do you? No. But here's the deal though, if you can break through, it's good. The problem is that you have to break through. Yeah, you have to give it the chance. The first season of Orange is the New Black, nobody was getting paid anything. In the first season of Transparent, nobody was getting paid anything. But once you get that hype, you start to make more money. I did a pilot last year for Amazon and it was called Cocked with Jason. There's a theme going on with your stuff. It's just what's out there but it's

different because with Amazon you know with network TV that's up to the executives to pick what gets on the air it's up to the people behind the desk and with Amazon you the people have to vote for which show they want to get picked up so there was this pressure put on us to tweet, Instagram, post, basically say, hey, watch our show, rate it. And based on how many ratings the shows, like the 10 pilots that they had made, they would then pick three. Oh, that's interesting. I'm not sure that's good. Well, it depends because we had who came in and did my show, Gary, who was vying for

this. I can't remember if it was someone like Phil Rosenthal or something, but it wasn't him. But somebody had made a show. Well, Cranston exec produced a show that was kind of like this. Yeah, I think Cranston was doing a thing on Amazon where he was asking people to go check it out. I don't think that one was a competition. It was.

Well, I know they produced the podcast. Don't disagree with him. Don't disagree with him. No, but he told me it was on Amazon and people were going to vote on it. I don't know if it's the exact same as yours thing, but it was a go there. The number of ratings would determine if it got picked up to series. Yes, because in that way they know they have a guaranteed audience. Yeah, no, and it's good except for the part where then it becomes like every election. Now it's like, hey, let's get these drivers license to these illegals so they can vote

for and now it's because they're skewing things. You get people that don't have good judgment and you're manipulating them. Yeah, I mean completely but I think it goes back to the whole YouTube sensation which you can see how many people are watching you can see how many people are liking your video on Vine. It's the same situation like well we want to know that's why they're putting these Vine people on TV shows. Right. I think the problem is, is if Bryan Cranston has two million followers on Twitter, now Bryan Cranston has a very, like a campaign, you have a million dollars to spend on advertising. I have a hundred dollars to spend on advertising. It's not sure which candidate is better now,

but you can put a lot more into your campaign. I want to tell you something that's better. You can't go from the buffalo to the buffet, Drew. Oh, that should be the new diet. From the buffalo to the buffet. You're going to pack on a couple pounds to make that move. There was no ambrosia salad back in the day. The Zuni try did not have an ambrosia. No, they did not. We had somebody I love last night call whose girlfriend was Zuni tribe did not have an emirate. No, they did not. We had somebody I love last night call whose girlfriend was Zuni, the Pueblo Indian. You can make up just words and say that was a tribe

and then you'll explain to me, oh no, there were over 10,000 tribes just in the North Hollywood Valley Village or what we know as the Valley Village area now, and I'll just go, yeah, well no, for sure. No, yeah, I'm understood, proud, right. Like, I have no fucking idea, nobody does. Cherokee's got a publicist, and there are about three others, and then after that. I'm like a 16th Zuni.

Yeah, that's what gives him his tenacity. See how hard he's eating that donut? He's eating it with this ferocity that is warrior people from the past. No, Drew. Is that a doughnut? I don't know what he's eating. Is that croissant? I don't know. All right. Drew, what were you saying? What was I saying? Nothing. Okay. Well, no. Look, no surprise. So the show, Hulu, casual, Wednesdays, and I love this Wild West, speaking of the Indians we're living in now, with just everyone's getting into production, everyone's putting

out content, no one is sitting around going, well, we'll just take what the networks give us, everyone's going, we're getting into business. The only thing that I find distracting about the show is the house that this therapist works in, seeing two patients a week, whatever she barely works, is so beautiful. How do they afford that? I'm not saying how do they... She might have really good alimony. Oh, there you go. Okay. Is that gonna... Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea. That was a total guess. But, you know, there's a lot of women in town that don't really work that often yet, have really

nice houses. I've begun to notice. I'm like, oh, you're in your third marriage. Got it. I had a patient once tell me, I go, what do you feel when she goes, I'm married. She said that. Smart woman. She was married to the guy, you'll like this, Adam. One of her last names was Kelly from the Kelly Blue Book. Is that interesting? Yeah. I know those dudes. I think they've gone online these days because they're carrying around a pamphlet with car prices.

It's probably a little 1990s. True car is going to put them out of business. Yep. Yeah. Giving everybody half is probably not a good plan. I don't think it's a good motivator in life. You know what I mean? You'll get half if this thing goes south. I don't

think that's a good, I don't think that's a good plan. I don't know who has it right, what state has it right. California rarely gets it right. Well that's true. And look, you can always tell it's not right because when you flip the script and there's some guy who doesn't work and his wife is really successful and then they get divorced and the guy takes half her money you always go what the fuck look at that lazy sack of shit how come he should be out earning his own why does he

get half of all sheep she did a sitcom that was popular for ten years it's gone into syndication they didn't even meet until year seven of the sitcom why does he get half that you hate that guy right well that's a two way street. If you hate the guy, you gotta hate the girl too. Yeah. You can't really be a feminist and you know, pro women and equality and not say that it can't go both ways. Why can't I don't get why divorce just can't be case by case like every other case. Like it just, what'd you have coming in? I think it can be. That's why you have prenups.

Yeah but what percentage of people have a prenup or is everybody what percentage are people going to have a prenups in 2031? You know what I mean? Is it going to be half the people get married? I don't know. What do you think? I don't think so. Do you think the system will change? I mean, this sort of blanket just whack it in half, you get half, he gets half, she gets half, moving on, not based on any thing, doesn't exist anywhere else in society, does it? Well, we spent a lot of time and energy talking about protecting people's ability to do the child rearing and protecting moms and children. And if we don't have some protections for them, they will not be able to ever-

Nobody said some protections. I said whacked in half. Financially. Yeah. I mean... So what would be fair from your standpoint? Well, I think the first thing you'd have to do is you'd have to set a... you'd have to determine what it took to raise the kids financially.

I mean, you have to kind of put a number to it. This thing where it's like you pay $105,000 a month of child support because you can afford it is insane because you and I were raised for 50 cents a month. Yeah. Right. So you have to kind of set, I mean, I think you'd have to kind of set a baseline. Aren't you like me so grateful for the dedication your wife has spent with your kids that it's worth some compensation? A lot? Drew, you keep saying some compensation or don't you think we should have protective

orders. I never said... I'm asking. So what would that mean? What's that look like? Don't be a dick, Drew. I didn't say throw people in an alley. But what does that look like? And let them be eaten by raccoons. I said you don't have to split everything in half. Chris, you still laugh at that shit? Stop it. Well, you see what he does? No, I want to know what you think kids are entitled to.

No, I'm curious what that would mean. What does that look like? My wife, she should be entitled to raising the kids and being comfortable. Now, this shouldn't be entitled to my car collection or half of it. It doesn't have anything to do with her. I was just reading about the whole Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes situation. Yeah, I Holmes situation. Why do you got to do this? I'm thinking about it. You're not thinking about it. I said half. I didn't say half. Nobody said not supported. So what would it look like? How do we make it fair? It would look like that they would need to be supported, but not made not they wouldn't need to have a lavish lifestyle. Hmm. I'm thinking.

Well, I'm thinking what if that's somebody that do you just think whacking things in half just in general, legally is the way to go with any facet of life if you know, no, if you have a partnership or you started a business or you started a medical practice and you opened up a bunch of clinics and something something and then a partner came along 11 years into your clinic you'd already opened 31 clinics and blah blah blah and you guys decided to go your separate ways. I just whack it in half? No. So I have 50 clinics.

You get 25, I get 25? No. Okay. But what would you do? You'd say well this person was a part of this. Yeah. And we need to figure out what the contributions were. Right. And now there's this other people that are involved. say, well, this person was a part of this, and we need to figure out what the contributions were.

Right. And now there's this other people that are involved. There's the person that answers the phone and the clinicians and people they need to be taken care of. That's not just a blanket whack it in half. Okay. That's what I'm saying. It's a bad rule.

Okay. It needs to be sorted out like any other. I was just, I thought I was just thinking through some of the sorting out, but Paul, I know you were doing that stupid thing where like, don't they deserve to eat? I didn't mean it to sound like that. Everybody, I don't think there's a rich guy on the planet that doesn't love his kids or doesn't want them to thrive. It's the whack and half thing before that thing. Sorry, dear. Go ahead. I know it's fine. I'm enjoying this thoroughly. You are?

Yeah, it's making me feel better about my childhood. You can avoid these uncomfortable conversations. I feel at comfort right now. Are we re-traumatizing you? No, no, no. This is my comfort zone. Are your parents divorced? No, they fought all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that's pretty much the common denominator in most situations

these days. But I was just reading about the whole Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes situation and apparently she gets like 400,000 a year in child support or something. She's asking for more. Sure. Drew wants her to have that so her kids don't have to wear coffee sacks around instead of clothing. But then you look at the situation. I think it's circumstantial. Look at Tom Cruise. How much do you think he is making? See, my point to everyone all the time is not how much this person has, because if it's how much this person has, then our whole world would fall off its axis. If I just went, well look, Adam,

you make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, so the guy who works on your car over there, he should get at least 25% of that, so you should go pay him $233 an hour. Well, it's like, no, he should get paid what the market will bear and what he's worth and get a bonus every year. Well I think we can all agree that $400,000 a month is probably enough to raise one or

two children since... Well $400,000 a month she's getting? I don't know. It could be a month. But historically, historically, well look, we do it all the time. We just put a cap on things like when they go When they when you're doing one of those dating service things and you they say check the box You know, do you make 30,000 a year? Do you make 40,000 a year?

And then at some point they get to like 125 or above You know, I mean they just go you you get to a certain you get capped. Yeah So the first thing I would do is basically cap it. That's a prenup, right? Well, it doesn't need to be a prenup. Oh, you want it to be like an agreement. The government caps things all the time. It should be a legislative thing. Let's go look. If Donald Trump gets divorced and has a newborn, it's $100,000 a month child support. That's the cap. I don't care if he makes $10 kajillion. $100 grand. That's what you got.

And by the way, that's 10 times more than you need, so we're cool. You know what I'm putting? Just because Tom Cruise, oh, it's $400K a year. Just because Tom Cruise has a kajillion dollars And by the way, it doesn't Katie Holmes have money like didn't she have a career? We did Dawson's Creek with her back in the day. We did I forgot about that. I'm just saying She came in with a couple of duckets in the bank. That was her highlight. She's on rate on of in right now, too I mean, it's not like she's not working. No, she doesn't not she's worked from age

16 and a half on right track between the two of them right now too. I mean, it's not like she's not working. No, she hasn't not. She's worked from age 16 and a half on, right? There's a contract between the two of them. This is, I'm reading this off a very concrete publication, but there was a contract and apparently because he broke the contract and supposedly hasn't seen Suri, the daughter for two years, that she's able to change the agreement. Of course, that is a very unique situation because we're dealing with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. But obviously what we're talking about here is none of us knows a human being that was raised on $34,000 a month. I mean, we didn't go to school with anybody that was right.

We knew kids that had a little more and had a little less, but we can all agree that just for the kid that's enough. And that's all I'm saying. You would think, but we live in this bubble where, you know, I mean, I'm in this like world of schools right now. Everyone talks about where are you going to send your son? Where are you going to send your son? I'm like... She has a three year old. No, almost three, almost three. Nowhere. Because it's so over... Like I didn't go to any... I went to like daycare.

Where'd you grow up? Miami. Mm-hmm. And public school, you know, not that there's anything against private school, but there's definitely this added pressure because you can afford it in this city, you know, and you go to these fancy preschools and it's all nannies dropping off and picking up and, you know, paparazzi standing outside and it cost the same amount as the tuition. I was just, my OBGYN, funny enough, was telling me that, mid Pap smear, that each child is a minimum of a million dollars.

And while he's inside of me, no, each child cost a million dollars minimum for schooling. Yeah. A million dollars if you're going to do private. Oh, that's, no, listen, my education. That was true. I always said, my parents screwed up a lot of stuff, but I had a million-dollar education. And I value it so much that that's what I started wanting to do for my kids. I started saving early for that stuff. Schools are really expensive.

And you have no idea the college thing is out of control. It's terrifying. We won't have to worry about it because my kids are doing it online from their dungeon. I'm betting on some sort of scholarship. I have these conversations on an almost nightly basis with my wife and it's like, boy, you guys are talking to the wrong guy because it's like they need another meeting. They want to know why. They think Sonny has ADA.

That kid is one of the nicest, mellowest, most interested, smartest kid, but he's a boy. He's not into sitting around and fucking crunching numbers. I said, look, I had this conversation last night with my wife, I said, look, I don't think either one of them are gonna be great students for various reasons. They're just not. They're Corollas. They're Corollas.

You're no brainiac, I'm no brainiac. Neither one of us has any education. Wait, you're a genius. What are you talking about? Well, yes, I am a genius. Oh, okay. But it's homespun. Not an academic. No, I can not. It doesn't appear in the academic environment. And it's not like I could have ever applied it to the classrooms. People say to me all the time, oh, you're smart. You just never tried. No, no, I tried on rare occasion. I tried. It doesn't work. Not for me. Not my bag. I like putting things together. I'm not in this sitting at a desk all day. It just doesn't work for me. But the kids, I would say both of them are fairly

gifted in the verbal department, in the just sort of overall life department. They're very good looking. They're very intelligent. they're very intuitive, they're very they have a good nature, they'll be fine. I just said look we got to get them through this thing called school with all these fucking meetings we have to have and all these hand-wringers and all the concern. I mean literally having meetings on Sunny. What are we going to do? Evaluations. I know Lynette called you. It's insanity.

It's back to where we were talking about last episode. You got to use the soap. You got to use the hand sanitizer. I'm not buying in on this. I'm not getting on the crazy merry-go-round and wasting my life. Let's just get them through school. They'll go to work for Uncle Jimmy. They'll invent something.

They'll do their own thing. We'll figure it out. I'm not going to go bananas with them, they'll invent something, they'll do their own thing, we'll figure it out. I'm not going to go bananas with them, especially if it ain't their thing. I want them to read. They've got to be able to read, they've got to be able to write, they have to have a vocabulary. But if it just isn't their thing, and please can we agree, Dr. Drew, mechanics are not your thing. Okay. mechanics are not your thing online to okay maxipata

he likes music in eating exotic foods i uh... now i have no i have no musical ability i have no musical ability it's not my thing but i'm very good at mechanics and building and things of that nature

so school doing freestyle comedy. School, not my thing. Not my thing at all. I could have never excelled in that environment just like I could have never excelled. Yes, I could take guitar lessons. Yes, I could work with a voice coach. And yes, I could do a C- at some sort of open mic night with a Cusa guitar in my lap, just like you could have never been a great mechanic or a great engineer because it's not who you are. You could train, you could train, you could train, and when you're done with all of your training you'd be a poor to middling mechanical engineer, and I'd be a poor to middling acoustic

guitar playing songwriter. So is that what we're looking for? Your argument is yes. My argument is just fucking get them through it and then let them go find the place they excel. Thank you. Hmm. Yeah. Everyone's going to argue with me, but I happen to know what I know. No, no. I had a very similar situation with my husband regarding our son and he's a boy and I have a lot of people who say, God, he's hyperactive. And we take offense to that. We're like, he's not hyperactive. He's just hyper. And when he's like in swim class, it's really hard for, he needs someone like in his face

to really follow the rules. But I think that maybe his, who knows, maybe he won't be an academic genius, but he can be good at other things. He's got a motor. That's the number one thing. Every, you know, I do this Take a Knee podcast and I just talk to all these people from all walks of life and they've all found success in a million different ways. But it's the motor that they all, that's, there's one common thing. The common thing isn't a background in math and science. The

common denominator for all these guys is a will, a yearning to do something, and then they go do a million different things. But you're talking mostly to creative people, though, to be fair. Mostly. I mean, you go, I got a little, there's another side to this story. I was listening to a bunch of lectures that Stanford puts on, and then iTunes U you know how to succeed in this and how to buy what about I'm going through it every one of these people first were software designers and had PhDs in engineering every single one of them had insane academic predicates I thought Jesus Christ that's what you need

to succeed in business today I mean there there is another side to this where super bright people super well trained do also do well. Oh, I'm not saying of course super bright people. Hold on, write that down. That's controversial. Google that. I'm saying but not just super bright people that are super. Yeah, I know. But I just, I went to SpaceX a couple of weeks ago and I watched a bunch of dudes building rocket engines. They weren't designing them. They were building them. They were physically building those things and that turns them on and that's we need guys to do that. And I'd say girls, but I didn't see any girls. Do we see one chick? What's that? Do we see a chick building the rocket

engine? Let's just say we did. It's a sexist organization. I'm sure that we did. It is a racist, sexist organization. There's 3,500 employees. There's a bunch of dudes that got off turning wrenches and I'm sure most of those dudes were miserable in the sixth grade when they had to sit at their desk and they didn't have a wrench in their hand and to take that kid and to force this down his throat needs to learn to read needs to learn to write needs some basic math but that kid wants to wrench and we need those kids and it's no harm and there's no shame

in that yes you're about to push an empty line oh five is empty. Looks like it. It looks empty under your finger, it does. Oh, it's not lit up under my finger. Oh, my finger was over the light. I was on hold for a million years. All right, well, let's just have the, let's just make sure. So you can call, it's like that thing where, you know, the guy hasn't breathed in two days, you fish him out of the ocean, but you're the doctor got to basically call the time just double-check on the death He's dead. All right. Let's go to Dave line one Dave 25, Philadelphia

Hey guys, how's it going? What's going on? Hey, dr. Drew. How are you? They have great. What's going on? Hey, Drew, how are you? Dave, great. What's going on? So, my girlfriend just broke up with me recently and I was wondering if I'm trying to get back with her or try to hook up. She's asking if I want to be friends and I'm not sure if I should be cold or try to... I don't know if it would be a good idea to be like, I think we're too

much, like, is there too much emotion to do that? I don't know, like, what's the... Okay, hold on a second. Slow down. You're all over the place. How long ago did you break up? Huh? How long ago did you break up? Two days ago. And how long were you boyfriend and girlfriend? Almost three months.

And you said, so it was a very short relationship, right? Not in his life. Yeah, he's 25, not 12. I know, but we did the almost three months that was him patting it. How many girlfriends you had before? Um, see five. Maybe. Those are the fingers on his right hand. Good one, Ace man. Good one, Ace. Yeah, probably five Good one, Ace man. Good one, Ace. Yeah, probably five serious relationships, actually. Oh, strange. Binky index.

Five girls that I hooked up with. Yeah, don't count yourself dumb as a girlfriend. How is hooking up is not a serious relationship? I mean, it got to that level. I mean, it accelerated. All right. That's a level now. When chicks say they want to be friends when they're dumping you, they're basically saying,

I don't, look, we've talked about this. That thing is like when you fire somebody and you go, but you know what, the front door is always open. Come in, pop in, you know, like I'm coming, you know, yes, we got to cut back, we got to fire you, but hey, there's no reason during the company softball game You still want to man that little no man's land between center field and shortstop where we have the fourth outfielder That's your spot. Come on out. Your boss is really thinking please dear God. I never want to see you again Yeah, but they have to sort of end it with they yeah, not everybody likes confrontation No, people always try to make softer kinder. Yeah He likes confrontation. No. People always try to make softer, kinder, gentler sort of departures. If you want some recommendations, there should be that.

To be fair though, women do this thing that men have trouble doing, which is they like to maintain friendships with their previous partners. For men, that's very difficult. You've got to give it at least six months, Dave, of no contact. No contact. Okay? That's a lifetime. Can you still hear me?

Yeah. I was pretty upset about the whole thing because I was really shocked. She keeps texting me and I thought I would just ignore her. I don't know if that's the best move to do. No, just say, look, I need some time. I'll talk to you when I can. Yeah, just set a boundary. That's it. Yeah. Also, there's a thing that...

She'll be relieved, by the way. There's a thing that you can do. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it.

I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you can do it. I'm not sure if you when I can. Yeah, just set a boundary. That's it. Yeah. And also, there's a thing that... She'll be relieved, by the way. There's a thing that young women do, younger women do, which is they like the attention, even if it's attention that they ultimately don't want to consummate.

And there's no pun to pardon. But guys don't really have that mode. Back in the day, when I talked to some of my girlfriends in my 20s, I'd say, like, this poor guy, it's clear that he likes you. He's following you around like a puppy dog. You keep throwing these little scraps out. But meanwhile, you're not interested in the guy. And they'd say, hey, it feels good. I know, but it's, it's, it's abusive to the man. I know, but it feels really manipulative, but it feels good. I agree. Look, it feels good to have people follow you around. Completely. I think every girl or most attractive girls do at

some point, but I'm not judging because you can't judge. You can't judge. But I've said many times, if I was like a really hot girl in high school, I wouldn't go to fucking class with some 23 year old guy who's driving an IROX. Fire, Pontiac Firebird. Pontiac Fire. Yeah. Asking me to go out and he's got his own condo, you know. I'd be fucking hanging out with him. Like I wouldn't be if that opportunity arose. Now it never did.

It's like you had Ray throwing shit in your ear. He wasn't throwing it, he was smashing it. Either way. More deeper penetration by the way. So if I'm a girl and I'm 23, and Drew you be honest. You're a girl and you're 23. And there's a couple of chicks, sorry, a couple of dudes that are following us around, you know, buying us lunch. We kind of know that on any given Friday night, if we're ever bored and there's nothing going on and the phone ain't ringing, we can just call up Artie and he'll be more than happy to watch me eat dinner or take me to a movie I want to see or whatever. But I never, I'm not really interested. But the attention feels good. And by the way,

some of this has a practical application. Like, I've literally installed closets and chicks houses who had no interest in me. Like they literally like, yeah, that's useful. Can you come over? Can you help me out with the you know, next thing you know, you're fucking washing their car. So I would do it once you do it, Drew. Oh, we would sink into some sort of, who knows what would happen. I would still be doing it. Yeah. So I don't, I don't blame them for doing it, but guys don't really have that mode.

But Dave here is an example of something we're seeing over and over again. You guys should both listen to this because it's a weird thing. And Dave is a perfect example of this. Not quite as bad as I've seen over and over again for the last couple of months, but in their teen years and into young adulthood, they don't have relationships. Relationships are difficult and messy and girls are a problem. They're kind of weird. They don't know how to navigate women at all.

They don't have any insight and they're good because they got their porn. I got my porn, I'm fine. The porn is so stimulating and available and arousing. And look at this, look at Maxipatta. Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah. Guilty. Yeah. No, he's like, oh, hell yeah.

So they don't get relationships. Then they head into one. They find one and she's the one, man. That's the one. And two months in, this guy's clinging to her, he's all over her, he's crawling up her ass and she's like, I'm not sure this is the right guy, we got to do something about this. She goes, hey man, this is not my thing so much, I kind of want to date around, can we be friends?

These guys are shattered and they do not accept. That guy's going to start stalking that girl if we're not careful. Because that's what they do. They will then install closets, wash their car, be their friend. But in fact, what they're doing is stalking. And then they will call me. We have these calls lately. The 26-year-old calls up and goes, well, this happened when I was 24. I've been her friend for two years and we're not getting on with this. Come on now. What do we got to do? We got to turn her around. And all the

while she's going, you know, this is never gonna be... she's very clear. The women are super clear, and the guys are in massive, massive denial. So it's almost like because there's less practice going on, because people are living in this bubble of the internet, they don't know how to handle rejection. Less practice, less flexibility, more entitlement, and a lot of denial, a lot of rigidity. Yeah, like you can't handle the rejection. Why can't you be like the girls in the porn? They're always available.

God, so the last two decades, it's changed, I mean, so much, just the whole dating. Now there's Tinder, and even I can't keep up with all this access to... That's what your TV shows about yeah yeah yeah pretty much bringing it back I'm about what it is to date in this in this society did you date in all this or were you already married by that point I was married yeah yeah but it's terrifying almost three-year-old truth and it doesn't you know it's 2015 married with a three- three year old that shows how old. I don't remember when this all got started. I was asking if she had to deal with this whole thing. I'm sorry. Then my apologies.

I thought you were talking about the show and talking about as it pertains to show. Did you have single years with this technology? No, I know. You know, I had single years with a different type of technology, and that's Hollywood. I would get calls from my publicist back in the day when I was in magazines and things and saying, oh, so-and-so would like to take you out. Just say David Spade.

Actually. Yeah, of course, it was Spade call. That's what these guys do. They literally sit around and they watch beer commercials, and they go hey Yeah, who's that hot chick from the Taco Bell commercial? They go oh that the chick from from the Burger King or whatever Who does the super sexy is it for any kid who does the super sexy commercial?

So yeah Carl's Jr. Yeah, they literally just David Spade just sits around watch a Carl's Jr. Yeah. So he literally just, David Spade just sits around and watches a Carl's Jr. commercial and then just goes, who's that chick in the bikini? And then someone would go find it and he'd just go, hey, publicist. It's got to suck if you're that publicist. Go track down her publicist and just say, did David Spade once have lunch? I feel like before Tinder there was publicity, you know. Does that, for the- For you. Yeah, right.

Does the Bill Cosby thing surprise you based on your experience with all that? If that's indeed what happened to him? Does it surprise me? I mean, does it fit, does his behavior fit with the kind of stuff you were having to deal with? Yeah. I mean, that, I think everyone within this bubble knew for the most part that that was going on.

The Bill Cosby thing. Yeah. Oh really? And other guys too like that? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But now... I wish I could write a book.

Hold on a second. Well, you could. I could. I would also probably be blacklisted from Hollywood, but... Well, a couple things. When you say it was, you know, common, I always knew the stories. There's a handful of guys and that's just what they did. They just told their publicist to call the person and set up lunch. You're like, you're my publicist,

but you run a dating service. I'm asking about drugging. Well, not just drugging, but also grooming and all that stuff. Hey, I'm going to get you a great role. Sexual grooming. I just figured out what that was. I didn't know that was an actual term. Yeah. But the drugging part, that's Bill Cosby's territory, right? That's unique. And Polanski, and I think the list can go on and on and on. It's just whether or not you're famous enough to write a story about it. I mean, the Bill Cosby thing, I think because it is so big also because it's such a vast number of women that have come forward. And such a difference from his perceptions, public persona. Well, that's what I mean. He was, you know, he was a family man. He was the jello guy.

He worked with kids and made a career off of being the dad that you wanted to have. I've always said A, we should just go get Roman Polanski, number one. Number two, it is interesting how Hollywood gives him a pass for the underage chick in the sodomy. Polanski? Yeah, he gets a pass. You think so? Well, I don't see a lot of judgment with Polanski from Hollywood. I mean he was extradited. He couldn't be here. Hollywood didn't do that. Oh he was, well no, but they would still see his films, make his movies though you're talking about.

I'm saying Hollywood doesn't judge Polanski. It judges Bill Cosby for sure, but Hollywood doesn't really judge Polanski. I don't know. Who do you know, have you heard that? I've talked to a lot of people who won't support his films and whatnot. But I do think- But I mean, at the Academy Awards rolls around, like people are booing or anything. There's not the outcry. Let's put it that way. I think because maybe it was one incident. That came up. That came up. And then years later, the victim came forward to actually retract her statement

and said that she was willing. Yeah, yeah. It was a little messier thing. No, what Cosby did was more grotesque and heinous and whatever. No, he's a serial predator. Right. But he didn't exist when Polanski existed. We still didn't do a lot of judging before Cosby. I'm troubled by that. Do we have an obligation to out these guys that were these serial predators? We didn't do it. We still didn't do a lot of judging. Hang on a second. Before Cosby. I'm troubled by that. Do we have an obligation to out these guys that were these serial predators? I wish. You know, it's funny because a lot of these predators, so to speak, are behind

the scenes. Oh. Are not necessarily... You wouldn't know their names. Right. Or they're not household names. Right. They're the ones that, you know, they're the puppeteers, so to speak, and those are those are the ones I find that you, that are the most dangerous. So how does it work? You don't have to tell us your story, but I mean, the typical story. And I'll tell you what, chamber that up with the publicist and the phone call and I'm gonna help groom your career. Let me tell you about the...

I don't have to worry about these predators. I'm too hairy. They're not incredibly... And you don't shower. I don't... No, I shower. You don't soak. I simply don't use the man's soap.

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All right. So the story, how does it go down? You want a name, basically. So there's one situation that I can speak of. I don't necessarily want a name. I just want to hear it. You don't want a name? What's the story?

You know, it's funny because there's a lot of, there are stories like the Bill Cosby. There's these stories that follow through, but nobody ever brings it to attention. You know, it's like you said, the Hollywood kind of forgives. Stories that follow through but nobody ever brings it to attention. Like you said, Hollywood kind of forgives. But I remember when I was 17 and I had first moved here, he came up to me at the Beverly Center Mall and said that he was going to help my career. Did he know you were an actor? No, no.

He just came up and asked me if I was an actress and I said yes. So then me being like, well, he's got to be harmless. He could be my grandfather practically. Were you from out of town? Yeah, I just moved here from Florida. By yourself or your family? Yeah, by myself. I came out here and he would take me into agencies and introduce me and then take me

to dinner and teach me about the business. You know, there was no – there was never any sort of sexual tension. Was there a business arrangement where he was like a manager? Yes. Well, he – I would answer his fan mail for him. But, I mean, would he – like if we get a job, I'm going to take 10%? No, no, no. He just wanted to help me. He – you know, I didn't have like a TV so he would buy me a TV. And I was all very like didn't expect there would be anything else to it and then one day he proposed and an agreement and

apparently that's what he does and it wasn't till after the fact that I was like oh my gosh all these people thought that I was this thing and he wanted to have a contract and it's apparently somewhat known that he has an open marriage this was back then in an agreement that he could have girlfriends. And there was a contract with what I would get a month, where I would live, what car I would drive, because I didn't have any of these things. And of course, I was appalled and I was like, I'm underage. And that was the first of many situations where,

oh, that's something that happens. And I remember talking to Jimmy Kimmel. I think it was Jimmy Kimmel. I worked on The Man Show many, many years ago. You did? Yes. What was I doing? I don't know.

I was like a flashback. It's something to do with boobs, I'm pretty sure. That doesn't sound like The Man Show I worked on. I did like a flashback sequence to why you, Jimmy, or you liked Big Boobs. Well, it's gotta be Adam. I like Big Boobs. I cannot lie. Other brothers think. No, how's this one go? Yeah. It was, but now the problem is, and now by the way, not that I remember anything, but the problem is, is there was one year of us not on the Man Show. It was probably the year we were on the Man Show. But there's always the caveat of we didn't do the fifth season.

So it doesn't always necessarily mean if somebody goes, remember Man Show? You were there. There's a 20% chance I wasn't there. But continue. So yeah, so apparently this was something I was talking to one of the producers of writers on the show and and he was like oh Yeah, no, that's that's what he does Did we have you on as an you weren't underage?

No, no, I was playing a mother someone's mother Who bent over and I'm bit that was you were it was it was like a flashback to like the 70s or something. Ah, uh huh. Geez, that sounds like you. Adam was definitely in that. As a child, as a child. A young lady. And I think I had to tie your shoelaces or something. Was that one of your first professional roles? It actually was my first paid TV gig. And then the Jack Harry show came along and I was like yay.

We launched your career. Yeah, you did. I'm not sure if it ever aired but pretty much. Everything aired, did it? I don't know if it ever made it to air but I would, it's funny, I've done things in my past like commercials and random things that have then surfaced that I never thought would see the light of day and once you get success things start coming out of the woodworks that's one thing that I've never seen I would love to have that dug up at some point I don't know what

season lost footage would have to be early right this point I think I was probably yeah 18 maybe you know it's funny he kind of lingered in my life for a while because I had a hard time setting boundaries. So I was just kind of like, no, thank you. Whereas before, no. No is a complete sentence in a foreign language. That scenario or something close to it has happened quite often in your career.

Yeah. I mean, in a lot of people's careers. Yeah, I mean, because you hang around or you hung around with a network of very attractive young women who came here to make it in this career. And I've never participated in that. I'm a weird denial about it. I know I guess I'm so used to it so I'm actually shocked that you're shocked but it's sometimes it's a miracle that I realize it's a miracle

that I didn't end up in porn because of the way things happen and how I would end up. Also, you were so codependent. You were manip, you were married. Yeah, I was so vulnerable. And I wanted something so bad. And when someone said, oh, I can give that to you, there was this level of like, oh, you know what you're talking about because you were in that Aerosmith video. So yeah, I'll get in the car with you. I literally was at a bus stop and some guy stopped and was like, what are you doing here? Because I was like, you know, didn't fit in with the other bus stop patrons and I recognized him from the Aerosmith video

and I thought, oh, well, I can trust you. You're that guy that drove the tractor. Yeah, that was a bad move. Yeah. I know a very prominent music producer who's saying things like he's married but he has a 20 year old girlfriend and he pays her rent, gets all her groceries, writes her checks every month and just takes care of her. It's funny how much that actually happens. That's LA.

Well, in a way... So crazy. Well, it is to pee-whip Drew over here and low self-esteem Adam over there. But the reality is why should guys nature DNA change that much in such a very short period of time? I mean, when you go back historically, this is what guys did. Every culture had a version. I would argue that I what I ask of men is if they want to fuck around, go, do it, enjoy, and then don't get married. And then when it comes to get married and get married, then that's sad. No, but true. Can we not look back through

the pages of history and see a version of this everywhere? Because people didn't fuck around before. They didn't have that option to fuck around so much It was just no I'm saying can we look back and see versions of this throughout history? Yes, very clearly Yes, all many historical figures You don't have to look back that far. You can get to the Kennedys Cavemen you can get to start with the cavemen you can go to the Romans, but you can get to the Kennedys as well can get to start with the cavemen, you can go to the Romans, but you can get to the Kennedys as well. Historically, you're surprised by it. I'm not surprised by it because it's how guys historically have acted. You're asking them to cut it off in 1957, something that's been going on for millennium, millions of years.

I'm saying that we now have an opportunity to do whatever we want when we're 18 to 30. Right now. Yes. And I'm saying have at it guys, go do your thing. But when it comes time, then if you can't get finished, then don't get married. What's that website where you, if you're married, you can find? MASHLY MADISON. Yeah. Wasn't there like a big scandal with that? Yeah. Yeah, well look, you find me at time in history where guys that were powerful or well-off financially weren't interested in younger, super-attractive women. I'm not saying that.

And it doesn't exist. Of course. Of course. So I, but no, I'm only addressing the part where you're surprised. Okay. It's, I'm only addressing the part where you're surprised. Okay. I'm not surprised at the brashness of it, you know. I think guys will basically do what guys are let to do. They will do as much of it as they can.

And in Hollywood, I think it's just amplified. I can tell you when I was working here at the Gordon Brewery when I was 18, the manager at the time would like brush up against me or whatever because I worked below him. There's just this level of, I don't know. True. How many times I said the guy who manages the Applebee's has dominion over every young college chick who goes in because he makes the schedule and she wants to work Friday nights to make a lot in tips or whatever it is.

Anytime there's the, you're down here, I'm up here, and here's your currency. I got currency. I got money. You're hot. That's your currency. A deal, at least an attempt at a deal will be struck. That goes on and has gone on for as long as time has existed. I thought we were evolving more.

Our loins don't evolve as fast as you like. I understand the instincts. I understand the impulse. Oh, well, I think we have. Look, we've evolved. We've evolved. Yes, we've evolved. We've evolved from a percentage standpoint, which is, you know, go back to Mad Men, whatever. I'd be smoking and explaining to my wife, you got a pretty good setup, don't fuck it up. Now just look the other way. That was, you know, in the 60s.

Right, that's what this stuff feels like. That's what we've evolved to. Do you think people are acting out on those impulses even more so now though, because of all of this access to the internet and living in this somewhat imaginary world, like, well, you know, like, like, like, like porn has definitely changed the expectations of sex for 15, 16 year olds. I'm sure you've heard that over the years, like the change in that. So do you think that in a way that's actually made people act out

on their impulses that much more, there's less of a filter? Yes. So, but, but I, I'm urging what I'm saying, what I'm expecting from people is, go do that. But once you decide you're going to do something healthier, which is, you always yell about form a family, create a stable unit, blah, blah, blah. Let's get on with it now. Yeah. All right. That's all I'm saying.

That's all I'm saying. Oh, quiet down over there. Have we ever after? Yeah. Well, I'm not saying that things... I'm not... No, I'm simply saying this things are... I'm not in polyamorous. I'm not naive. I'm simply saying this has gone on for as long as guys have had things in their pockets other than their penis.

All right. What do we got here, Druski? You feeling good about yourself? No, I'm anxious because I got to go haul ass across town to get to a radio station. But it's good to see Dior. It really is. It's always good to see Dior. It really is. Oh, it's always good to see you. Yes.

I'm anxious. Alert the media, everybody. Yeah. I'm being anxiety. Shocking. I'm anxious. Would you like me to yell at you to calm down? You're busy. You're very busy. Yeah, busy right now. It's a lot. There's a lot going on. I actually wondered how you get across town. It's a lot of schlepping. It's a lot of schlepping. But I do patient stuff, that kind of thing. I prepped the HLN show when I drive to radio, and then I do patient calls and stuff like that.

It's like somebody took a handful of nickels and just chucked it into the wind, and poor Drew, he's got to pick up every single one of them. All right, evening with me and Dennis Prager coming up. That guy doesn't step out on his old lady. December 12th Ace Hotel downtown Los Angeles. Check that out. Taken Each, A to plus is gonna be on that. If you want to subscribe go to amcroll.com forward slash archive. You get the whole archive. And Road Hard, my movie, out available as we speak on DVD. Go to Amazon, bookmark us, click on through. Diara's show Cas Casual, on Wednesday nights. Hulu.

Hulu, Wednesday nights Hulu. And by that's just when it's released, you obviously get the whole season up there right now. Yeah. The first three episodes, four episodes are up. It's the beauty of the internet. So, till next time, and Parola, Dior Baird. Oh wait, I screwed that up, Beard.

Beard. Beard. Gareb Beard. Yes. There, okay, I did it. I used to have a disability, Drew. I know. I cured it.

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