The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #383: McCall Party

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

July 27, 2016Adam and Drew open the show discussing the fact that Drew is still feeling the effects of his jet lag. They then quickly turn to the phones and talk to a caller in his late twenties surrounded by people getting married who is wondering at what age he starts to be the odd man out not being in a committed relationship. They also take a call from someone who has a different, perhaps more informed, perspective on a past caller to this show.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This time of year, the school calendar really starts to fill up, spring activities, testing season, and that final push toward the end of the year. It's a great moment for kids to stay focused and build confidence in what they're learning. That's where Iexel comes in. Ixel is an award-winning online learning platform that helps kids truly understand their schoolwork, from math and reading to writing and science. It's designed for pre-K through 12th grade, with personalized interactive content that adapts to each child's level and pace. I-Xcel makes it easy to stay on track with instant feedback and clear explanations, skills organized by grade level, and simple progress tracking. It fits into even the busiest spring schedules.

It's also trusted nationwide. In fact, I-Excel is used in 96 of the top 100 school districts in the U.S. Make an impact on your child's learning. Get I-Exel now. Listeners can get an exclusive 20% off I-XL membership when they sign up today at I-XL.com forward slash today. Visit Ixl.com forward slash today to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price. This now is a throwback episode 383 from July 27, 2016. We open the show discussing that I'm still going to feel in the effects of jet lag. It's not a new problem for me, evidently.

We go to the phones, talk to a call in his late 20s, surrounded by people getting married and wondering what age it starts to be the odd. He would be the odd man out in that he's not in a committed relationship. I'll also take a call from with someone who has a different, perhaps more informed perspective on a pass caller on the show. This is an episode from July 2016. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, man. Get it on. Got to get it on.

A choice with a get on mandate. Get it on. Thanks so much. for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend, man. As we always talk about, I'm running into people. We used to listen to you back in the day. You still listen to us right now in 2016. So just share it with a friend. That's right.

It's going on, Drewski. Just thinking about, again, I'm still saturated with this trip I was on. And we flew back on a Dreamliner on those new Boeing planes, the 787. Yeah, I think I flew one of those back from Europe, too. Pretty cool. Were you first or business? Yeah, there's two classes. in that plane and the front class lies down, which is, is that you?

Oh, key. And, uh, but you, it's the, uh, the one with the window, uh, did you notice the windows the tint? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? There's no, there's no shade. It's just the window tints itself. Yes.

It's crazy. Yes. I, uh, I enjoyed. I, I flew. It was one of those things where it's like, it's so funny because you can suss everything out, you know, like, you know, I was talking to fondolier and, you know, know, I'll have these conversations. It's a weird thing, or sort of a gift that I have, which is like, we'll try to make

these plans all the time. Yeah. And he'll go, well, first class is $7,000, but they have business elite for $900. And I'll go, well, so he'll go, that sounds pretty good, right? I'll go, yeah, it sounds pretty good, but it ain't going to be that good. And he'll go, why not? It's business elite, you know? And I'll go like, okay, so have a lobster salad for $2.

And you tell me how much you enjoy it. Well, it's lobster salad. It's got to be good. Like, yeah, not for $2. I can tell you what everything is. The one thing about. Price is information is the point. It's all you need to know.

Like there are, you know, there's the occasional, here's about the best you're going to do. You know, I was trying to talk, Lenny. net into like a Hyundai Genesis or Equinox or whatever it was, you know? And basically what that car is is that's $61,000 versus the Audi's $85 or $90,000. And that is as much car you're simply not paying for the badge. But it's still $62,000. You're right. It's a full-blown luxury car up there with a $7 series.

I mean, when it comes to the tech, it's impressive. Right. But there's no such thing as that car for $17,000. And there's no such thing as that car for $41,000. There's such a thing as that car for $60. Gary can figure it out. 60 versus 85 or 90. Now, that is a, okay, I'm going to save a few grand here because it's going to say Hyundai instead of Mercedes. Yeah. Oh, fine. That is an example of, okay, now there it is. But if someone's going to try to tell you, I got to, got that car for $11,000, or there's a Mercedes you're going to love, and that's under $25. No. No. And about the same thing with flights, I've figured out.

When they do that, once in a while, once in a while they'll do that thing where he goes, starting at $61,000. I could get $615 is where I start. But the point is, every once in a while, like Matt will go, hey, it can bump up to first class for another $77. And I'll go, okay, what does that mean? bump up that what is that first class going to look like but uh yeah so i flew back in what i thought was like business but it was really just the other class with movies and drinks but it really wasn't not no sleeper pod i'll i'll put it to you that way the car nice the good news is as soon as i landed i'd do two podcasts so it was uh it was awesome but uh you got to go to the pod yeah the pot and they're

They're not the full pod like they are in, like, real first class. But the seat lies down. That's all I care about. Well, we use two yardsticks to measure the 14-hour flight. The first-class experience. As I always say, when you get on the plane, do you turn left or do you turn right? Drew likes to argue with me, but if you turn left, that's real first class. Listen, in overseas, in Cathay Pacific, separate entrance for the first class.

Ooh, la-di-da. How about another one? The business to get added to the turning left is if there are stairs involved. Yes. Well, sorry, Gary, but the other one I was going to add was can Gary beat off in it. Which is, that's the other one. You're not. If you can turn left, if Gary can turn left and whack off in his own pod, that is his first classy as you can get.

That is classy. That's what I think of is classic. Well, you know what I'm saying? That is the ultimate. Gary beatoff pod. If you have. If you have a... That was business class.

Wow. Well, the point is, if you can have the privacy of a true pod. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. All right. So Drew Flew and... Where'd you fly out of? Sydney.

Oh, so a 14-hour flight? So it was like 15 hours to Hong Kong and like 13 and a half back. Something like that. It's crazy. Yeah, I got a guy that once... It's so funny. I got a call the other day from a guy in New Zealand. and he's Rod Mellon, who's a race car driver and very intense, had the record,

maybe has the record for Pikes Peak hill climb, which is pretty intense stuff. And it's intense because there's no railing. There's no guard rail. So if you go off, you probably will die. So be sideways going up that hill for 10 minutes long. It's pretty intense stuff. But it's really, I love, he's a New Zealand guy. I love them.

I love they speak in a higher register. Yeah. And there's something very endearing about. But anyway, he said to me, he said, Adam, we're doing a big event. And I talked to Nissan, and they'd be keen to, you know, let you drive. Keen. Yeah. Not your word.

Yeah. It's got of it is. They'd be keen to let you drive one of their cars for my event that we have here. And, you know, and I talked to them, oh, maybe we can do a put on a couple shows, do some this, that, the other. And he said, I said, but I got to be honest with you, Rod, I'm going to start shooting a live Sunday night television show for Spike coming up at the beginning of the year. And this thing you're talking about is in February. We're going to be shooting on a Sunday going live every night. I'm not sure, you know, imagine your thing is a weekend thing.

you know, it's a sort of auto thing, you know, it's a race, blah, blah, blah. I said, I just don't see how I could do your event, you know, Saturday, Sunday or Friday, Saturday, whatever, and then go do my show live on a Sunday night. And he said, well, Adam, if you leave here at noon on a Sunday, then you'll get back to L.A. at at noon on a Sunday. And you can do your show. And I just thought, wow. Yeah.

I said, well, there's. There's more involved to it than me just being there, but, boy, there's a challenge. No, I know. I got home. I left at 10 in the morning, and I got home at 6 in the morning, same day. And I went to work. I did television show that. Yes, but you weren't drinking heavily on the plane.

But you will sleep. Yeah. I mean, you will sleep. Well, you get the pod. You get the pod. But you got the wife doing the mileage in the pod. Yeah. And me, I got me and finally are in my wallet.

Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla show. Well, if you care about predictions, then you care about props. And when March Madness tips off, the props tell the real story from buzzer-beaters to bracket-busters. Nobody does tournament props like BetOnline. For years, BetOnline has been the home of real sports betting. Deep markets, sharp odds, and player props. Built for fans who watch games and study the matchups and anticipate the upsets. From the opening tip of the first four to the final cut of the Nets,

BetOnline delivers live betting, instant updates, and in-game odds that move with every possession. And this March, the madness goes even bigger with the BetOnline $200,000 bracket madness contest. where the winner takes home $50,000 cash. Build your bracket, beat the field, and take your shot at one of the biggest tournament prizes in sports betting. And when the game's end, keep the action going with Bet Online Casino and exclusive VIP rewards built for serious players. Brackets follow the hype.

Bet Online sets the line. March Madness is here. but online. The game starts here. All right. Line three. Kevin, 29. St. Paul, Minnesota. Uh-oh, where's Kevin? I don't know. I just punched him up. Line three, Kevin? So that's right again. Kevin? All right, we'll see if we can work that out. James, 28, Sacramento?

Yeah, hey, that takes your name in Paul. You got it. That's going on, man. So I'm 28, like you said, and I'm watching all of my friends get engaged and get married and my little brother got married a year ago. And I'm kind of living in a single life and really enjoying it. But I'm wondering at what point does that go from being young and sowing wild oats and all that good stuff to, you know, difficulty connecting on an emotional level and all of that.

Yeah. At what point is it – at what point is the question really the sort of the sort of question is, at what point is it gross? rest of gross or sad yeah yeah well in today's society you can do whatever you want for as long as you want to do it

to whoever you want to do it to as long as they get a note from their doctor and they can get that online like there's just emotional support sweats yes that's right if you really think about it you know

banging a stranger you've never felt more grounded more secure better about what's looking back at you in the mirror than banging a stranger much less carrying around a Shih Tzu. You know what I mean? Or maybe she can hold the dog while you're banging. But either way, at 28, especially the way we're going as a society, you, my friend, have a good decade of not feeling any pressures or being looked at askance or any of that as far as where we're going and where we're at.

Now, now there's what you want to get out of life. That's another story. Right. Right. I think that's more, it's not so much the. outside pressures. I really, I don't feel that for my family so much. I mean, you know, it's not so much an issue with friends or anything. It's more, you know, at what point do I start to think, okay, is this just me having fun or is this something that I should be concerned about? All right. So here's

a deal. There's no magic recipe that says, you know, after the age of 29 and 13, you know, 10, nine months after that age, you're being sad. No, it's different people. You're in what we call the sort of contemplative phase. You're recognizing that perhaps this isn't going to be fulfilling long term. Perhaps it's not a great strategy for the kind of life you want to lead. So keep thinking about it and stay open to a relationship and see what happens. Now, if you get to the point where you get in a relationship and you can't sustain it, that's kind of where you might want to look into things. Hey, James. Yeah. Yeah, all right. You're a smart guy. You're asking the right questions.

It's how change occurs. We go from contemplative to action to maintenance. I mean, those are the basic stages. I'm just looking down at a note I had written that I brought this up to Drew. I think I brought up on my show, but I can't remember if I brought it up to you before. But I really, and I think I did, but I really want you to really wrap your mind around this event. And the reason and how it unfurled. and the reason I'm bringing it up is because I'm getting close to my pilgrimage to Laguna Seca and going to Monterey and doing the whole car weekend thing, which is always my big pilgrimage go race.

What are you asking me? You're asking me to what? Well, I'm getting invited. We're getting invited to Gordon McCall's jet hangar party once again. Right. And, you know, you and I just got back from places, not California, but places where you're, you. you just sort of, you know, Amsterdam, if you want to have a beer and walk down the street, you have a beer and walk down the street.

Treat you like an adult. It treats you like an adult. But the thing, which is absolutely mind-numbing, is they have this big hangar party. But the hangar party is not really a hangar party. It's more of a tarmac party. It's a big car vent, cars and airplanes. Okay. Guy is named Gordon McCall.

Okay. Rich guy, nice guy. Puts these things on. And it's a hot ticket. It's a big event, you know. At Laguna 6. Okay. Yeah, not at the racetrack, but at the airport.

The events around the city. Monterrey, yeah. And I've never went. I've always been invited. I never went because it's Wednesday night. I don't get there until Thursday, but this time I did, and I took my son with me. Okay. And we had tickets and everything.

No, no kids. And I said, I don't get it. It's just, it's cars out on a tarmac. Gary will produce a picture of it. And airplanes, you know, P-51 Mustang. Let me ask. Are they fearful the kids going to, like, fall into the thing and scratch it or throw a piece of food on it or something?

Well, it's a bizarre thought because over the same weekend, there is the Quail Lodge thing where there's kids everywhere in multi-million dollar cars. There's the Laguna Saker race with multimillion. There's the lawn, the Concourse de Aligants, which is not a billion-dollar cars and kids. If you don't mind, let me keep asking questions. Does he hate kids? No. Does he, to his own kids ever show up to this? That's a rule.

I'm not blaming on Gordon McCall. Is it their ability to serve alcohol sort of legally? Well, but they serve alcohol at every one of these other events, the ball games, to car shows, to the racetrack. I'm just wondering. Is there something about the airport and alcohols? It's like a private airport. I don't know, but they literally were like.

I know this isn't a great picture of cars, but it describes the space best. It's just a big space. with the Lear Jets and hangers and dune buggies. And when you see those dune buggies, what's the first thing that occurs to you? Don't get Drew. Now you got Drew going on the 70s, Gary. Big mistake. Hang out, what's the first thing you think of when you see that?

First off, this things are full of multi-million dollar Ferraris for the most part. I get it. I get it, but I can't help but respond to that picture. Leave it alone. No, just forget the 70s. Just what pops in your head when you do that. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo banana splits. A banana splits.

There's the first things. All right. So, all right, we're looking at a picture with Jets. It's just an outdoor thing. That's a cool picture, by the way. There's nothing. It's just planes and cars. So he said, no, Sunny can't go in.

And he said, all right, all right, I get it. Hold on. Let me just go talk to the event manager or something, explain what I'm doing. I got my kid with me. There's nothing to do with the kid, by the way. It's not like, well, there's a big inflatable castle over there that can play in. Yeah, yeah. So it's nobody's fault, but then kids can't get in.

So I go, okay. So at a certain point, I go find the manager, the whatever we start talking. I'm walking around. They go and get a senior sheriff. He's in uniform. Yeah. He's one of those dudes. You know, you know, it's like when you shoot a movie and they have the senior cops there, motorcycle cops.

Yeah, yeah. They're 51 and they're going to make double time just sitting around watching you shoot a movie. Yeah, yeah. That dude. Yeah. A big dude. And those guys are, in my experience, is usually very nice. Very nice.

They're not young, they're not young, trigger-happy, young bucks. Super nice guys. Happy to be there. And they're also, they've been there. They've done that. They've got nothing to prove. Big guy. And they go, look, this guy's a CHP guy, as senior, whoever, sheriff, whatever.

Can this, if this guy escorts us around, can I bring my son in? And the guy was nice. Yeah, I'll escort you. Yeah, I'll walk with them. And I'm going to bring my son in and show them there's a Bugatti over there and a LaFerrari over there and everything. And they're like, well, I guess if Officer Johnson escorts you guys, we could bend the rules a little bit here. And I said, okay. And again, there is nothing.

You're just walking around. There's a car over there. There's a plane over there. Yes, there's a bar over there too. And then people walk around drinking red wine. Would they make an issue of the alcohol? No. No.

No. And again, again, there's. You go to, they have the Italiano concourse. You can get a glass of red wine, walk around with your kid on a golf course, looking for us. Okay. We walk around this place for about four minutes, and at some point, somebody who vent just comes up to me, my son, and Sheriff John, and just goes, you know what, that's enough. That's no more. Go back.

So it's some weird, no kids in the pool hours. It's some weird thing. I don't. And if my kids can't go, his kids can't go. I don't. I honestly don't. I don't know what it is. But, and maybe that was, maybe that was it.

But it's just, I couldn't think for the life of me. Like, again, the sheriff's walking you around. It's something back when I, and I mentioned you a couple of shows ago, but the primates and the capuchin monkeys and giving them cucumbers, but you give one a grape, and the whole thing falls apart. Yeah. Well, I found it mind-numbing. All right.

Let's talk to, oh, we already talked to James. Yeah. A couple of things I got a lot to talk about. Yeah, because, again, I got a head of steam having been away. Did you see in the news that President Obama's half-brother is going to vote for Trump? Well, he's 13 half-brother. So which one is it? No, I know.

I didn't hear about that. It's kind of interesting, isn't it? Well, I thought you know. It's weird, right? Yeah, weird. I don't see what he says. I don't have any thing to say about it. Yeah, go ahead.

When did this come out? Yesterday or today? Well, no, hold on a second. What day is it? You know what I'm saying? It came out like Sunday night. Sorry. Saturday night, Saturday morning.

I like Donald Trump because he speaks from the heart. Malik Obama told the post from his home in the rural village of Colago. Make America Great Again is a great slogan. I would like to meet him. I had an interesting observation, Drew, that I expressed on my show. But I'd be curious of what you thought about it, which is, I have always said that I don't think Obama makes enough about the family and especially the black family. And then my detractors say, oh, he brought it up in his speech seven years ago.

And it's like, yeah, I know. But when we're talking about people shooting cops and cops shooting people, I need it woven into that dialogue amongst other things you bring up. You're just saying not enough. Not enough about it. Not never, just not enough. It's as the sort of number one problem we face or that community faces, Having it not brought up, having it brought up 3% of the time is probably not doing it or anyone justice on it. And then I realized, oh, he didn't know his dad.

Yeah. And then I wonder, and I wonder if there's some compensation going on of, like, I didn't know my dad, but look at me. Right. It turned out pretty damn good. That's how a lot of people think. In general, that's how human being sick. Yes. Yes.

Whatever their family of origin experience was, even when life turns out shitty for them, they'll say, well, I'm great. Look at me. I needed that. I think from a just psychodynamic standpoint that that is a little bit off the table, a little bit. Yeah. And like I said, I don't say, look, here's the deal. I told you a couple of shows. Presidents have to say things like, hey, families are important.

You know, I mean, they have to say that stuff. But then there are other things that they make into talking points, real talking points. For instance, gun control. Yeah. He goes to a cop funeral and starts off talking about. gun control. You know, you know what I'm saying? What I'm saying is that's something he's interested in. Well, it's funny. This is not, and I think it's a psychodynamic. I agree with you. And as I told you, a couple shows ago, or whenever it was, I heard Robin on Stern Show mentioned that too. She's like,

well, he's not going to raise a kid. Like, very matter of fact, like, the dads don't raise kids. I thought of your talking about Mick Jagger, yeah. But let me, let me say this. Another observation I had from overseas was really interesting. Obama was in Brussels or something while I was over there, and I was watching the news and the BBC, and I was watching the local news and the Asian news stuff. And he was doing an interview and was during all the violence out here. And he goes, well, if you ever let peaceful protest break down into violence, you're not serving the cause. Right. The cause.

The cause. And you would, the commentator's heads spun around on their necks. They're like, oh, the president misspoke. He means their cause. Or a cause. What's he talking about, the cause? Is he part of some cause? Is there a cause?

What cause is he? The cause? It was telling. It was interesting. They could not get their head around this stuff. I found it, and I think I'm the only, not the only one, but it's not really been brought up too much. But when he was delivering the eulogy of the Dallas police officers that were slain, it was Dallas, right? Texas is too big. Yeah.

He did it. That was the first 10 minutes was a moving eulogy about them. And then we started getting into the lecture. about race. And then at a certain point, and again, I've found this insanely off-putting as just sort of an atheist who just watches things. And this isn't, I got an extra grind with this guy. This is, he started giving this lecture on race, and then he started explaining that how it then would find its way into certain systems like policing. And it was literally like you were standing in front of a liquor store that was burned

to the ground and you're going, whoever did this needs to be brought to justice, but understand that if you don't sell beer after 10 o'clock, you are going to bring on a certain amount of this stuff. But we still need to rebuild this place and we still need to bring these people to justice.

On the other hand, four bucks for a quart of milk, that's going to upset people. But see, that's interesting because it's not that he's wrong. He's right. Right. It's just bringing it up there in a leadership position has an impact that may not be good. Well, also, you got 11-year-old kids whose dad got their head blown off three days earlier

who are sitting there. And you're... He's not wrong. No, but that is not... I feel like Louis C.K., but maybe... That's not... He's not wrong, but maybe he was not the right thing to do. That's a time to maybe let the agenda...

Yeah. Just take the agenda, leave it in the motorcade, leave it in an armored limo, go out there. quote a few passages from the Bible, talk about these individuals as heroes, and then when you're doing your next town hall, get into the agenda. Yep. I felt that was, Gary, do you have that, by the way?

But that's what the commentators were. Sorry, which one are you specifically looking for? The end of the eulogy kind of thing. Yeah, he's got it. Pull it up in just a moment. Okay. That's sort of what the, well, not sort of, but that's exactly what the commentaries

were trying to understand when they were trying to figure out what he was talking about. They just couldn't. The race issues, as perceived from outside this country, just they can't, they only see it as guns. It would always, they'd always devolved, as they'd have the conversations about it, they'd go, well, they just have too many guns over there. That's where they'd always go. We should shoot those guys for talking shit.

But every, whatever country was evaluating, whatever culture, they always go. Well, if anyone wants to know, I somebody tweeted me something I said, or I retweet it or whatever it was. But here's the way, and tell me if you agree with this. and this is all I'm looking for because people talk to me all the time. Well, you don't understand what this group has been through or that group has been through. And poor people and black people and whatever people, women, Chicano, whatever it is. I just said, look, if you were a victim in this country, there's no reason why you can't succeed even if you were a victim. If you think of yourself as a victim, you cannot succeed.

That's the way. That's my head on it. My head is not that people haven't been victimized. If you think of yourself as a victim, you're in a lot of trouble. If you recognize, if you recognize that you were a victim and you had been a victim and then realize, okay, that did happen. And I'm not happy about it. But I do not walk around in that under the veil of victimhood. But what if I said?

Now, this is just for conversation. And this is why I don't like them beating the drum all the time. I get you. And I'm not taking, I'm not... Hold on, Gary, you pulled this thing before. The Dallas one. You and I never got to... We never pulled it to the point where you were very happy with.

Yeah, we did. You got it. He went 10 minutes in with Ben, and then at some part in the middle, he started switching to the race talk. We don't have to hear it. People can look at it. I got a bunch of this stuff on here, but...

Gary can find it. But I don't want to... I'm not shooting on your point, but I want to raise the conversation and ask, well, what if somebody doesn't think of this up as a victim, but wants to be sure other people don't get victimized and they make that their life. I'm fine with other people not. Think about that.

No, no, I like that. Yeah. I like other people not getting victimized. But unfortunately, if your campaign to not let other people get victimized has spread out so far and wide as to make everyone think they're victim, then you're doing more harm than good. I would argue, I think you're kind of right there, but I would also argue that when it becomes about, you know, that thing where people just get angry to be angry, then it's not about helping other people anymore. Then it's about your anger about being a victim, right? Yeah. So that's about thinking of yourself as a victim, again, not helping other people.

Yeah, I've no problem getting involved with a cause and helping other people not be victims. But trying to then explain that every black person has a target on their back from the law enforcement community is not helping them because all you're doing is freaking them out. And I don't like it when the president starts going down that road either. I think it's, I think everything. And I think whatever the problem is, prostate cancer and or cop shooting folk, it needs to be addressed. Yeah. But it's not everyone's got prostate. cancer who's this age or this ethnicity or this whatever it's there's a different

approach to it there's an approach to fixing every problem do you tell me to stop talking about it no I like it but I'm saying it's like I say an airliner goes down FAA gets that airplane it takes it it reassembles it in a hanger it tries to figure out what went wrong with the plane but it doesn't explain it doesn't scream that planes are all falling out of the sky or that we have to ground planes or they they want to get to the bottom of whatever The problem is and really go after. People debate about how the problem. Before we go to this call,

before we go to this call, this is an adoption call, was that when Bruce was in here? Probably, I can't remember. I tune him out. Well, I want to talk to you about that. Could have been one of the other great comedians we had fill in as well as Bruce. But I want to talk about Bruce because lots of complaints on social media about how Adam treated Bruce. What happened there?

What's going on? Come on. He comes in. I didn't do it. What I do to Bruce? I don't know. I wasn't listening. I just, I was away.

Bruce does. Bruce likes to... A non-story, Drew. He likes to annoy. He likes to... He's destroying Bruce. He's so... Oh, you read one tweet, please.

No, there are not... To be fair, about 20. But 22 is... I saw one. Bruce likes to come in and do what Bruce does, which is, first off, he does a lot of stupid stuff. Like, he talks into the side of the microphone.

He shuffles his papers all over the place. He makes his little stupid side comments and all that stuff. He just, he just does. You know what, can I give you a good Bruce? Please. Can I give you a good Bruce story? I'll give you a very good Bruce story. Nothing better than a good Bruce story. I said, all right, I'm going to go launch Endless Rant IPA on the podcast tonight. I said that to Lynette.

And then she said, good. Or she told me, go do it tonight. It's going to be available tomorrow. On the ACS podcast. I think. This is three months ago. Okay. And look, go launch. She said, it's all going to be. ready that's up and running, the store's up and running, go find it, go launch it tonight. Yeah. I said, okay, I'll do that.

Then I paused and I went, no, shit, Bruce is here. And she said, what difference does that make? I said, well, he's a guest on the show. I said, so what is that? So what is that? So what? I said, oh, he's going to. He'll shit on him.

He'll shit on him. And she goes, well, how's he going to do that? What's he going to do? I mean, he likes beer. You like beer? your beer. He's not going to taste it or anything. You're just going to, he's not going to taste it and go, yeah, I'm not handing out samples. I said, don't worry. He'll do something. It's okay. So I said, all right, everybody, I got my new IPA. And it's out, and it's delectable and you can get it,

endless rant. And Bruce went, what's the alcohol content? And I said, six point two. And he said, oh, that's pretty low, huh? And I said, well, it's not high. It's not high. It's It's not low. It's in the middle. Well, yeah, but a lot of those independent brews are like 8, 8 or 9%. I said, well, yeah, some of them on the higher end. And then the other ones are lower. And this is sort of in the middle. Yeah, that's not very high.

I said, okay. And then I had my answer. And then I went home that night. And I said, hey, Lynette, yeah. Remember when I told you Bruce was going to do something to shit on this? And she said, yeah? And I said, he did, he started going on that alcohol content's not that high. It was like, what?

Why would he say that? And I said, what do you mean, why would he say that? He's Bruce. I told you what he was going to do before it happened. Let me ask something. Have you ever, other than just screaming at him on the show, have you ever pulled him aside and said, let me give you some tips on a better performance? Are you open to that and see if he can take it? And a non-threatening non.

I told him to put gel in his hair. He does better when his hair's got some gel. Did he do that? He does it. He does it on occasion. He takes direction from you, all right? He just comes in and does what he does. He doesn't care.

He's Dr. Spaz. And no, I didn't yell. I tell him what I always do, which is he starts doing whatever he starts doing in the middle of when he starts doing it. And then I just yell at him and move on. So you had to yell at me a bunch, but I was interested in what you had to say. I was trying to change.

I agree with you. I don't think he's motivated, at least when you address him on the mic. But he might be if you pulled him aside. Gary, what do you think? You have an assessment of Dr. Bruce and me pulling him aside. You might ruin Bruce for the podcast. And still look for that Obama clip, by the way.

I'm still working on it. Bruce, pulling Bruce aside, I believe, would do nothing but redouble his. Really? I've talked to Bruce. Oh, okay. You think I don't, like, you know, I see the complaints too. I've talked to Bruce. Yeah, but Adam could come at him like a coach and go, let me, I'm a performer.

Let me give you some tips. Let me give you some pointers. You know what you do? True, true. Every time he's on the show. show, Adam gives him tips and pointers. He does the same shit. No, I know, but he's defensive on the show. He feels that as sort of... No, you know what happened if you pulled Drew? If you pulled Bruce aside?

How dare you? Put Bruce aside. Yeah. And had this thing. When you started talking to him, he'd go, I know you, I know we talked about you telling me what to say before the show. And he'd take it and he'd spin it. And then he'd out it. And then it'd see like, and I know you said, don't talk about it. So what is that? Is that a personality thing? He's not, well, first off, he does stuff like this. Like, I've had this conversation with him, but I've had it with Lynette on occasion. Actually, Lynette stopped, which is like, she would say a million years ago, oh, we don't, we don't go to a movie, we don't go to dinner, we don't do anything.

We don't do anything. And I just said to her, have you ever asked me to go to a movie? Like, hey, let's go to a movie Saturday and let's go to dinner. And I went, no. And she went, no. I said, has it ever happened? She went, no. And I said, all right, well, then what do we?

I don't know what we're talking about. And she stopped. Bruce does the, oh, I know you don't want me. I said, Bruce, have you ever said, I'm going to come by on a Sunday and bring the kids and hang out and have some pizza? And I went, no. Or are we going to come, can I come by the shop, bring Joey and take a look at the cars? And I went, no. Have you ever heard me say no?

As a matter of fact, I'm the number one guy. That's the feeling he gets from you. He feels like you don't like it. Everyone does this thing with me all the time. It's like, I know you don't like when people come up to you. I don't know. I know you to hate it when people want to take a picture. I know you hate it.

Kayling, you follow me around all day. All I do is take pictures with people. All I do is bring people over to the shop. All I do is all that all day every day. I've known. And he goes, move along. Move along. Here we go.

Come on. Do I not go out or do or say or. Whatever it is, Bruce has never been disavient. But he has a narrative. And his narrative is, I know you hate me. And I know, you know, and it's like it comes over to house, brings the kids, hangs out for the whole day. But to be fair, it's going back to your rants about people never changing. Everyone could change.

Could change. I could change too. But my whole thing is don't come over here and lay this rap on me all the time that I know I bother. I know you don't want me around. I know you hate it. He brings his kids all the time. They go to the other shop. They hang out.

They come to the house. They hang out. I don't know what it is. How about that box of 5-4 you got? Oh, my God. Oh, I got new jeans. I'm so happy. I just pulled these drugs out, man.

Those are cool. I didn't get those. I wish I had those. Well, I'm excited because I, for a million years, just because I'm, me, I never really, swim trunks were for rich people. I was like, yeah, cut off those jeans or, you know, just wear those, you know, cotton workout shorts or you know to me i just i wore shorts in the pool i didn't realize swim sits are nice they dry fast the pockets got the things in them they stay up you can do that

move where you push off and you're and they don't slide around your ankles you know exposing your ass to everybody yes i i i just i i had a pool but i would just i whatever shorts i was wearing i was going i got some swim trunks baby and i just finished a pool so look out i can't wait to get into it Of course, Bruce isn't welcome. Pluto TV has thousands of free movies and TV shows. You swear? If I'm mine, I'm dying. This is the mindset.

Free. This is the mantra. Free. This is the... With movies like Titanic, Dream Girls and Gladiator. Why are you detained? And TV shows like Survivor, Spongebob SquarePants, the fairly odd parents and ghosts.

Pluto TV is always free. Hazzaw! Pluto TV, stream now, pay never. Hey, Gary, you can probably just go online and look for that part if you want. You probably don't have to skim through the whole thing. What would you have to? What would you? I'm just, I'm not positive what exact part you're looking for.

So I'm looking for the end of it. The end, right? No, it's not the end. It's like in the middle. It's in the middle. Forget it. So implicit racism and policing is what he's talking about. He's giving a lecture on race.

Gary, we've talked about this part. I can't, but I don't know what to do. It's hard to find. It's a big speech. Well, but I understand. The only time you and I have, the only time this particular clip has come up was in the middle of reasonable doubt, and we tried to find it. I got to a point where you weren't really happy with it, and we never discussed it after. But you know what I'm looking for, right?

Not exactly. I do not. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Here we go. Jonathan? No, he's not finding it.

28. Dr. Drew, you live. You live, buddy. Eat Brockola. Get it on. Get it on. Gary, I might type in Dallas police eulogy. Obama race talk.

Or implicit racism. Go ahead. Jonathan, what's up? Okay, so just to clarify, I love the Bruce talk, but this was actually from a call that you guys took like maybe a month ago. So it's been a while. And Adam, you actually took another call on ACS about adoption a couple weeks before that. I've been wanting to call in about for a while. But she basically had told a couple people to not tell their kids that they were adopted. And I was adopted. I started living with my family and I was about three years old.

And, you know, my family did let me know. And I just thought it was something that maybe could give you a different perspective on it. Well, let me just before you do one quick thing, which is that, you know, I have memories back to age two. And if somebody didn't tell me why there was this big change at three, I would feel pretty weird. And so adopted at three was different what we were talking about, which was adopted at birth, had not told the kid. Hang on. Right. Had not told the kid.

And their question was, well, what age do I tell him? We were like, you know, all things being equal. Maybe, you know, not. But go ahead. So tell your perspective. So you're right on the first one was at birth. The second one was the other was the real one where he kind of took over his dad and then adopted the kid. but the dad should still kind of come back around.

And so, I don't know, I just thought, you know, my parents kind of, you know, they didn't tell me every detail right up front. You know, they said, hey, you know, you're living with us because we love you, blah, blah, blah. And then just like as the years went on, they kind of just fed me more and more just a piece out of time. Yeah, that makes, that seems reasonable. Yeah. I don't have a hard, I don't have a hard, fast rule about it. I think...

It was very specific to the situations we were responding to. Here's what I think. I think Gary's got his clip. But here's what I think. I don't like the... There's a sort of thing that we have is like, the truth is for all. And the truth will set you free and all that kind of stuff. And I don't have a lot of that in me.

I don't need a 15-year-old son announcing to his family that he's gay. I don't need it. And the reason I don't need it's because I don't feel like it benefits him. Or at least if it doesn't benefit him, he shouldn't do it. That's the way I feel. Because there's situations where it can be disastrous. Of course. There are cultures where you can be killed, number one.

Their cultures will they'll kill you. And then there's everything in between. Now, here's who I am too. If a father pulls you aside and you're 15 and you're 15 and you're, 17 and the dad pulls you aside and says, hey, man, prom's coming up and speaking of prom, I've never seen you on a date. What's up? You interested in the ladies?

And then you can go, you know what? Actually, Dad, I'm not. I'm not sure what I'm feeling. I have feelings that are different than that, but I might be gay. I don't know. That I'm all for too. And it takes you upstairs and pushes you off the building? What do you do?

This, no son of mine, but yeah. So there's, there is no rule. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, there can be danger to following a rule. And my feeling is, hey, tell, tell, tell the guy. As far as adoption goes, if they just get you from birth, I would sit on that for a while. Obviously, you're pulled out of house at four years old.

You're going to have some memories. Yeah. So it's a different set of rules. But it's why, if you notice. when we talk to people, we always say, no, specifically what happened in your case, exactly what's going on with you, because there can be some nuances that can change the recommendations. In general, less history and more mystery. All right, Gary's got the clip queued up.

I believe this is a portion of the section you're talking about. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune. And that includes our police departments. This is the eulogy. But I'm sympathetic to him saying that, right? No, not there.

Not when people are dead. Right, bad move. That's what I'm saying. Bad choice, but I'm sympathetic to what he's trying to do. I'm not because he's basically, if you listen to the whole thing. I get what you're saying. No, you're not listening to me. No, I do.

Listen, if the whole thing in context was, let's be honest, we all have this racist thing running through us. And that is hurting the cause because it is making folks who aren't white feel like, oh, yeah, everyone is racist. And the reality is, I don't know what's running through you and you don't know what's running through me, I certainly know you've never done anything that could be construed as racist. And neither of I, outside of jokes, that's not hurting anybody. And to have a group, you know, look, I don't want to go to a high school and have a principal deliver a speech that basically says, look, we know how a lot of people feel about Adam. And they've got to be honest with themselves when they're thinking that way.

And sometimes they tell their kids, and let's be honest, we feel about Adam, if we're honest about ourselves, we don't, I don't want to walk around in that high school. Do you? Right, right, right. I'd be scared. And also, I'd be walk around thinking, my God, all these people. Right. It's a bad move. Sympathetic. I'm sympathetic to the, the, thank you. Yeah, okay.

All right, Matt, 38, but not at the funeral. Right, right. That's what I'm saying. Let the agenda sit for the funeral. Right. Okay. Matt 38? Yes, hello.

Hey. But I see him struggling. I see him struggling. He's trying. He really is. Not at the funeral. You're right. By the way, funeral as a, as the president, as a dignitary funeral, that's easy lifting, as we say in show business.

Listen, old Reagan used to do was show up. Few quotes from the Bible. Read a couple quotes from the Bible. Memorize the wives' names. Try to not mispronounce the officer's names. May they rest in peace. Their hair is moving on. You're right.

That's what I'm saying. No, you're right. That's not lecture time. I see him. Just quiet. Matt? Yes. Yes.

38 Bay Area. Wholeheartedly. Yes. Welcome back, Dr. Drew. Thanks, man. I had a question. I am about six months without a drink. Cool.

Which has been great. Yeah. The reason I stop drinking is that my wife, I have a new baby. We'll do the new part on the baby. I'll do the new math on the baby. Same with the ingredients. game, we're married. All babies new.

An old, sagely old, wise baby. Yeah. From a million years ago. It's a rule? You're right. New baby. She's about one. Anyway, I'm a big NFL fan about every other season.

I go back to my hometown and see my chiefs at the game. And there tends to be a lot of tailgating. It's my high school buddies. Sure. I wondered what the harm would be and what your thoughts are on sort of hitting paws. on my not drinking and sort of enjoying a few pops at the game and then coming back and coming back to not drinking again. Well, look, I had a conversation with a guy and I'll leave his name out because he's an alcoholic and whatever.

And I said to him, listen, he started asking him, hadn't had drinking, hasn't had a drink in 15 years, 20 years. He said to me, you know, what's it with you? He saw a bottle of booze sitting in the other room. We're having a meeting. And I said, that's my booze. So what are you doing with that? I said, well, I'm going to drink it later. And he said, how's that work?

You know, and I said, well, look, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go out to Thousand Oaks tonight, and I'm going to go do a show Friday night. And then I'm going to finish the show. And when I'm done with the show, I'm probably going to come home about midnight. And when I come home about midnight, I'm going to pour myself a glass of booze. That'll be a grill. kill you. And I'm going to have a cigarette, too. And he's like, you smoke? And I said, not till after the show, not till I get home. And he said, how do you do that? I said, I do it. I can do it. I can

because that's my reward to myself after a very long week of work and going out and working on a Friday night. Now, he marveled. And he said, oh, man, no way with me. No way. And I said, all right. I get it. That's you. This is me. And we have to figure out who Matt is. Right. And so what we're talking about is someone that has lost control. The odds say you're the other guy, not me. That's right. And it's not a normal relationship with alcohol to have to stop or have to make deals about it or have to think about it, a conflict, I wonder about it. So we know, Matt, you have lost control. It has affected your relationships, affecting your family. It's threatened your hell, whatever. It's a real deal for you. I also know you're not going to mean as you're not falling a sober. You're not sober.

You're just not drinking. So you're in this sort of middle zone of you can kind of control it, but you've sort of lost control. So what will happen, I can predict, just because I've worked with this biology for many, many years, is that when you start chipping, meaning, well, I can drink here, but not here. I can go to the chiefs, but not here. Well, magically, you'll start going to your hometown a little more often. And magically, you'll start following the chiefs, whatever your game is, to some other. the city and magically you'll start thinking, well, I can do it on Saturday nights too. It will slide back into trouble.

You become a Pats or Denver fan. You wouldn't have to drink as much, by the way. But here's the thing, Matt. Statistically, Drew's right. You're not in that percentile, most likely, that is going to be able to have that kind of relationship that we talked about. But he's also not in the category. Your friend, the guy was commentating and who totally lost control.

He's not completely lost control. He's not needing to have to go to. Matt, I'll tell you how I'm going to come down on this. I am going to give you, because I believe Matt is sober, responsible, part of the pun. Well, what I mean is sober-minded. Yeah. He, not as it pertains to booze, this is just sensible guy. Yeah. I will say this.

You may go back to Kansas City and you may have a couple of beers on a tailgate of a truck. I will not deny you that. if it starts to turn into something else, now we have our answer. Well, right. And to some extent, he kind of needs to prove it to himself. Yeah.

And it may take a year or two to slip back into trouble. But then, Matt, once you do, I hope you will go to meetings and really get serious about this. Until next time, Adam Crow for Dr. Drew, saying, Mahala. Pluto TV has thousands of free movies

and TV shows. You swear? If I'm mine, I'm dying. This is the mindset. Free. This is the mantra. Free. This is the...

Movies like Titanic, Dreamgirls, and Gladiator. Are you not entertained? And TV shows like Survivor, SpongeBob SquarePants, the fairly odd parents and ghosts. Pluto TV is always free. Hazzo! Pluto TV, stream now, pay never.