The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #385: Toomgis

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

July 28, 2016Adam and Drew are back together today and open the show discussing how the internet has, at least for Adam, been a curse as much if not more than a blessing. After taking a phone call, the clip of the DNC with Al Franken telling a confusing story is finally found as Adam shares it with Drew and the audience. They then turn to the phones and speak with callers with a variety of problems including extreme anxeity before welcoming very special guest Kathryn Feeney.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

All right. Time for throwback episode from July 28, 2016. We're back today opening the show discussing how the internet, as least for Adam, been a curse as much as, if not a blessing. We talk about that. Of course, like everybody feels that way these days. That was 2016. We take a phone call and we look at a clip from the DNC with Al Franken telling a confusing story. We shared that with the audience. Then we turn the phones and speak with more callers around a variety. of problems, including extreme anxiety before welcoming our very special guest, Catherine Feeney. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew's show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on mandate.

Get it on. Oh, with feeling. Yeah, man. Thanks for joining the show. Thanks for telling a friend. Thanks for spreading all the good love and the good words. Good see you, Drewski. Hey, now, what's happening?

It's funny. You know, the thing that's funny about the internet is we're living, it's a very good. Actually, my relationship with the internet is a lot like things you've been talking about with monkeys and cucumber slices. and grapes and things like that, which is there is a thing that there is a thing called the internet that... What?

Well, there's a thing called the internet. No, but some people say, hey, I got this old Paul Newman race car from way back in the day. It's a whatever, you know, and I'll go, huh, which one is that? And then I'll just type in, but, but, but, there'll be 500

pictures of that car right in front of me. Which is, in the past, It was like a trip to the library and find an old road and track magazine. Listen to how different things are now. I had this conversation with my mother, God bless her, is in her 90s. And she was just kind of kitchen out. I could not get her online. I couldn't get her to use her computer.

I couldn't get her. But she's starting to understand what's available in the Internet. And she goes, it's like the Encyclopedia Britannica is available on your phone. And I thought, oh, no, quite a bit more, quite a bit more. And I thought, wow, that was the best we could do then, was to go. see the encyclopedia, which is about 40,000 pages. But getting back to now chucking the

cucumber slice at the scientists, like you spoke of, I then tell Gary, hey, I want to pull this Al Franken clip from MSNBC. It was on MSNBC last night, or two nights ago, after the election, just grabbed that Al Franken clip. And it's like, yeah, it's not

it's nowhere to be found. And it's like, why isn't it somewhere to be found? Why isn't everything, everywhere to be found all the time? You know what I mean? Yeah, you get spoiled. It's like a little, it's a little bit of, hey, I want to see some nude pictures of this hot chick I went to high school with. It's like, it's not there. What do you mean it's not there?

Go find them. So what did you throw it, Gary? Fecisies. What did you do? Cucumber, but I had feces. Mixed in? Mixed in. Okay, okay.

All right. Well, do we have a bio, Gary? It's coming in right now. Okay. Well, put that on the screen because it'll. We have a special guess, and it's good. I think it's a. perfect to guess for our show.

Yeah, we'll bring her in a little bit later on, and I'll tell you, I'll tell exactly. Well, it's, well, we're circling back and finishing off something that a conversation Drew and I had on stage at the ice house about five, six weeks ago. Yeah. All right. Natural alternatives to Prozac, Drew. Let's do it. All right, let's do that. Hey, Fab 36.

How's it going, guys? Good man. wanted to fit taking prozac about 10 20 milligrams almost a decade now and I've been reading about

these types of medications calcifying your penile gland listen that's bullshit first of all no one knows what the pineal gland even does but if it does anything pineal as he said yeah it's a tiny little vestigial thing

I said penial yeah pineal well pineal P-I-N-E-L. But here's the deal. One's different to me. Here's my concern. The whole logic is so weird and flawed in people's minds. You either have a disorder where your biology needs to be adjusted, importantly.

I mean, there's consequence of not adjusting that biology or there is not. And if your physiology needs to be adjusted in order to push physiology in a, let's call it what it is, unnatural direction, then you need something called pharmacology. Now, where that pharmacology comes from, it doesn't matter if it comes from fucking tree bark or proctor and gamble. Well, this is all natural. Yeah, it doesn't matter. You just need sufficient chemical. It's made a buffalo bone marrow.

Chemical from some source to push your physiology. Right. But then, hold on. Go ahead. The real natural solution to your question would be get into therapy, into an interpersonal experience. And as Adam always says, take some long walks and some classical music and attend to your life. and structure it, take make healthy choices and maybe some 12 step if that's necessary. Whatever it is, there are tons of, quote, natural alternatives that don't involve chemicals.

Yeah. And as soon as you get into chemicals, molecules, it doesn't matter where the fuck those molecules come from if they're of sufficient power to change your physiology. And so that's my, the thinking is so flawed. So let me just. But you being on the prozette for so long really bothers me. me. I mean, I'd love to see you try something different for sure. Look, and I'll distill what Drew just said, which is because we're insane now. It's my sort of, my mom wouldn't let us eat milk chocolate, but she'd let us eat carob.

And all it was is a shittier experience. And they're both full of sugar. And as a matter of fact, the milk chocolate at least had the cocoa bean going for it and probably had some more beneficial things. Particularly for your brain. But Hershey made one. And God made the other. And Mother Nature made carab. And it was the same thing.

It's like halva versus a slice of pie. Well, American, nothing to be more American than apple pie. No, have the halve. Well, it's just all your liver doesn't know. All your liver knows is being doused with sugar. That's all. But one is miserable. One has a weird name.

One seems like it was made in a cabotts by lesbians. And somehow that's going to be good. But what Drew's saying is whether it says Pfizer or Upjohn on it or whether it's just tree bark. If it affects you, it affects you. Yeah, that's it. And it's a chemical. And it's a catch-22 because if the tree bark doesn't affect you, then it's no good. And if it does affect you, it's no different.

Right. So you either need the change or you don't. And if you do, it's a big dose of a chemical of a molecule. And where that molecule comes from, you want to get the safest as possible. I agree with me, though, lots of walks, lots of classical. At least start there. See if it helps. I am becoming, Fab, a huge advocate.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that the interpersonal experience, which therapy is, is, I don't know how to say this strong enough. We live in a time of deprivation interpersonally and impoverishment, and we have got to restore that in our relationships. And if you have depression or whatever psychiatric issues, do not skip the step of the interpersonal, which is what therapy is. And Drew, what about there's, I also believe in a sort of yin-yang balance kind of thing, which is I, you know, I don't believe we need all of that. Like if you have a lot of interpersonal stuff, there are times when you just need to take a walk alone.

Sure. And like I had this thing. But it may be the wiring of the interpersonal experience, maybe fucked up by your previous family. Well, yeah, I get it. But what I'm saying is last weekend. I had worked on Friday night and out in Thousand Oaks and got home late Friday night. Then Saturday rolled, and I knew I had to work a lot on Sunday. And then there was Saturday.

And Saturday was, Sonny's got a basketball game in Pasadena at 1 o'clock, and then he's got another basketball game at 7 o'clock, and then we're going out to dinner. And I said, I'm going to pass on the 1 o'clock. clock game. And sunny doesn't protest. He's good, but some people said, why? And I said, I'm taking the dog for a long walk

and I'm putting my earbuds in and I'm just taking for a long walk. And it's like, well, why aren't you going to Sunny's early? And because I said, because I was working last night. I was in the whole crowd, you know, it's a scene, taking pictures and saying hi and doing 90 minutes, 100 minutes up on your feet. The next

night I was working a lot. And I'm going to Sunny's game tonight. and then we'll go out to dinner. But today, I'm just going solo. I'm going to hook up the dog to the leash, and I'm just going to start walking for a while. And that's just what I needed at that time. Then there are other times you want to be with the family at the game

or eating dinner or whatever it was. So not that this is a cure for fab, but what I'm saying, it's not all just go for long walks alone, and it's not all just get with the family and do game night. It's this balance. Well, and to be fair, if you notice, I included in that make healthy choices in your life.

life. Right. Make good choices, get good balance going. And that's when you tortured Philly Cheesesteak and nearly killed the dog? Is that the walk? Clinging to life is not the same as nearly killed. Okay. To be fair.

Do you have, did you find Al Frank and Gary? So says Gary. Got it. Was this taken from, I was taking from my TV set. Okay. This is from Rob. The audio is, as a result, not. No, the audio was bad.

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into the studio? And then I thought, I know Gary's going to look for it on the internet. It's not going to be there. Although I can't, I just thought every show, especially like an MSNBC, would just automatically be put up on some link somewhere or something. NBC has a weird thing about controlling its content on its sense. Evidently. Yeah, yeah. So then I just had this thing where I was like, hmm, what am I going to do? And then I got my video camera out and I attempted to videotape it.

This is probably illegal. Somehow this is probably not legal. Go ahead. I attempted to videotape it as long as we make commentary on it. And I didn't have enough room. And then I looked for my phone. where's that little microphone icon? I couldn't find the little microphone

where I was just going to do the audio part of it. Gary will pick up my phone and find it 10 seconds. Not now. But I look around and look around. I was like, where's that little microphone? I thought I was supposed to have that microphone. I couldn't find the microphone. So then when my worker, Rob, came over to the house

with the electrician at 8.15 this morning, I had it queued up to that. And I said, Rob, use your phone and send it to Gary, and he didn't have enough memory on his phone either. I hope you guys know I do burn calories for you. I think this is what it looks like now. Oh, they changed a microphone to something else? Yeah.

Oh. The microphone now has the... Oh. Why was the microphone super confusing? Oh, so I have that, but it's not a microphone. It was a microphone on my old phone. Yeah. Oh.

Okay. So now it looks like an audio wavelength. Yeah. Okay. Was the microphone broken? All right. Anyway. So I can translate, but we'll play.

This is MSNBC. This is Road Warriors. This is after the program. Al's being nutty. And they're trying to kind of get them out of there. So here's a question. Give us a nutty road trip story. Crazy's place you've been.

Yeah, go back a little, Gary. Sorry. He didn't get any. anymore. She said, where's the craziest place you've been? Where's the craziest place you've traveled? I heard that. Right. She said the show's called the road war. Why not? Why didn't he? Okay. All right. The show, anyway. She said, the show is called Road Warrior. So give us the craziest place you've been. All right. Here we go. The craziest place you've been. The craziest way you've traveled. You got.

I actually had about three weeks ago, one of the greatest experiences of my life, at the high school graduation in Wilmer, Minnesota. Wilmer is sort of Minnesota is a turkey, largest turkey producer in the country. And Wilmer is kind of at the center of that. All right. So first things first, hey, comedian, politician, politician, comedian, Al Franken, give us a we're road warriors give us a craziest place you've been goes right into politics right into politics right there's no not an ounce of any they're looking for a road story

yeah and they say give us a crazy yeah crazy i went to a high school in the middle of brainard like he immediately just goes three weeks ago i went to a high school all right go ahead Gary sorry we'll try to try to work it out here uh so he went to But that's the way I'll just talk. He kind of mumbles and he's always kind of been like that. You know what I mean? You've seen him talk lately. No, no, not the way he talks.

But I'm saying answer the... No, no, no. I'm with you on the question. But you also said he looked like he was drunk and stuff. At the beginning, he was kind of all over the road. All right, here we go. Oh, we got the sound down. The graduating class was about six-exam light.

All right, go back a little. Sorry, we'll go back a little. All right. So what's to give us a crazy road story? He went to a high school. Crazest road story, craziest place you've ever been. Right. And then he said, I had the best experience of my life. He switched it. He switched the topic. Right. And now he's going to go to a high school and break down the ratio of races. Okay? Here we go. Is there anything more of an agenda than this? In the country, and Wilmer is kind of at the center of that. And the population there, the graduate

class was about 60% white, 25% Latino, I'd say, is 15% Somali. I was there to introduce the class speaker who'd been chosen by the class who was Somali. All right, chosen by the class, not by a Somali overlord, by the 60% majority white kids, who's a female? Okay. It was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. The valedictorian was a Latino girl. Who was a valetian? It was a Latina girl. To me, I just see white dude that doesn't understand what's going on in the country.

You know what I mean? It's like, you don't know that that's... Listen, I know you guys think I'm some sort of out-of-touch prick. But what I'm saying is, does every single story and anecdote have to be turned toward race? We simply asked you, Al Franken, give us a nutty road story. and you're telling us a story about going to high school, and then you're breaking down the demographics, 6% white, 50% Somali, 25% Hispanic, young Somali girl was chosen to speak.

Hispanic girl was the, and it's like, that's your crazy road story? Or is that you just never stopping this endless discussion of race? Endless. This is Chalax, Al Frank. after the speech, the place had cleared out. You're sitting in a sort of round table with folding chairs. You got your legs folded. They hands you a mic, and they're looking for a little entertainment out of you.

And you're going right back to this sort of weird race-based thing. It's his job now, you know. Oh, but what was, what's the takeaway? It's a majority white school in middle America, and they got the Somali female, and the Hispanic female, the class elected her. Them. Them. And that's that.

Yeah. Okay. So what is your point then about the suppression of women and Somali refugees? When the mostly white class elected her to speak? This, the valedictorian was Hispanic. That you got to earn. This, the Somali girl, they just. voted on and said, let her speak.

Yeah. Okay, so what do we need to fix, Al? All right, you can pull down. Let's go on to our other topic. That's insane, though, isn't it? Yeah, it's weirdly, again, hubris. His thing is, I was raised in the Middle of County. Everybody was white.

We didn't think about it. Yeah, that was 50 years ago, dude. But also, you're going to this thing where I was in this county where they produced and it was one of the biggest turkey productions in the United States. And I go, okay, here we go. now but they close down the factory and they outsource to Mexico and we have jobs that those people are now those people are on welfare and okay there good Yeah, that's. Let's talk about production.

Let's talk about fixing that one. He just goes off and tells an anecdote about a Somali girl and how eloquent she was in high school. You know what's solved all those economic problem is tombugus. Tombgis. Yeah. Do you know what tombugus is? I realized it was, it's AMP's Mascot that I hope is eaten by Siegel's one day when he's walking out. there's convertible.

It's too much good stuff, but even when I look at too much good stuff, it still kind of doesn't really feel like tombist to me. But I was, I'm oftentimes interested in really, really bad campaigns. But you know the thing that's funny? One of the worst ones ever was Domino's, and you can avoid the noid. He was this little. Oh, that lasted five minutes. Well, here's the comedy.

The comedy, and I'll circle back to Tum guess at some point. Yeah. The comedy with the Noid is he looked like the Budweiser man. If the Budweiser man had an evil brother. Yeah. And if you find, Gary, you guys don't know what the Budweiser man looked like. There was a Budweiser kind of superhero. Yeah, he had a cape, didn't he?

Yeah, he was the Budweiser man. And the noid looks like his sort of evil cousin. Did they remind me of Super Dave or something? Is that sort of was the conceit? Oh, there he is. Now the noid, the thing about the noid that you had to avoid the noid. The thing that's crazy about Domino's is this is the worst idea ever. Ever.

And all it did was ironically annoy people who were trying to avoid the noid. And I don't even know really what it has to do with pizza. Or anything. What does it even mean? I think it's, I don't know. I guess the deal is you'd get a pizza and it would be cold or the cheese would be stuck to the lid of the roof or somehow you had to avoid the Noid. I don't know what it meant. It was horrible.

But here's the thing, Drew. Didn't the Noid want to steal your pizza? Or maybe it's like a lucky charms guy, when to steal your pizza. Either way, it was a horribly ill-conceived mascot for your pizza and it was a horrible ad campaign. Here's the thing that's funny. Domino's latest ad campaign is we, I told you, he looks like, we're looking at the Budman, he does look like the evil twin of the Budman. Yeah, yeah. All right. Now here's the deal.

Not evil, but like impaired. Little each. And what's with the big ears? All right, no one knows. It's horribly conceived. But here's the thing that's funny. The Noid, I think, was buried and gone by like 1996 or something like that. I don't remember when the Noid went away.

It couldn't be too soon for me. But they have a new campaign. And the new campaign for Domino's Pizza is we give $7.99, three-topping, large takeout, you know, Monday through Thursday. And now we feel bad for all those people who weren't getting it Friday through Sunday. So for you people, we're going to offer you some cool stuff. And we're going to give you a big Domino sign to put in your living room. It's sort of supposed to be funny or some of it, but it's like, hey, we're going to pay you back.

You get to go hang out with the noid. Is one of the... As though everyone knows what that is? Not only is that it is, as if anyone would want to hang out with the noid. Even if they did know who it was. Yeah, it's their latest commercial they've been running the bejesius out of. It's our South Franken. It should be easy to find.

But it is, again, it's funny your brain went to that because it is that same isolation that people have when they spin in their own head with their own ideas and don't realize how disconnected they are? Right? Isn't that sort of the same topic? So, anyway, we'll get back. We'll tease Tunga, who I just watch on these A&PM commercials and I get annoyed. I would rather bring the noise back.

Strangely, you get annoyed. You become annoyed. You become annoyed by this stupid character. Now I understand where the noise come from it. It's annoyed. Yes, he's annoyed. I didn't even get that until just now. Oh, sorry.

I should have been clear. or they should have been clear. We were saying the noid. I was like, Vanoid, what's annoyed? It's, oh, annoyed. Oh, sorry, this guy's been holding for a million years. I just hit Graham.

Graham. Hey, guys, how's it going? What's going on, man? Oh, not much. I'm actually, I'm a pilot, and you know so much about flying. I'm just surprised you don't have your pilot's license. You hate airplanes or you hate airports

and you hate traffic so much. Well, to me, it's kind of a natural progression from cars in a weird way. Yeah, I agree. It'll be one of my, regrets one day. I just have so much going on. And listen, you're all right technically. I look at getting my pilot's license like meditation or even yoga, which is like, why don't you do it for 20 minutes a day? And it's like, I should. You're absolutely right. Not going to, but I should,

and you're absolutely right. I used to have fear of flying, and I got over it by when United, you used to listen to the air traffic control and the communication with the pilot. And so, I feel like I'm an air traffic controller. I've heard so many hours. Did they do that anymore? No, they stopped that about four or five years ago. They got rid of that, but they brought the noid back. It just doesn't seem fair.

Graham? Yes, sir. I appreciate you waiting, and I appreciate your question. And in one day, I'll never say never. So thank you for that. All right, let's see. Gina on line five. Gina, 29.

Thanks for taking my call. I love you both so much. Thank you. I've been listening to you guys for at least the past 12 years or so. And I've been dealing with depression and anxiety for about that amount of time since I was, you know, in high school, I'm 29 now. I have twins, so I know what you guys have gone through. Yes.

Having a hard time with it and trying to figure out my next, next um my next route of action as far as what i can do to get control of my anxiety so it's not affecting my daughter which i can also see the anxiety coming out in her she's only one and a half really i've tried lexapro yeah i've tried you know i take zanics now um i've tried zoloft and i've tried a recently lexico. And I had, what is your anxiety? Hold on a second. You're calling from Santa Barbara.

How can you be anxious, man? Riplebone with, gets a flip-lop. Hold on a second. Where do you think your anxiety stems from? Probably my childhood. I mean, I didn't have a horrible childhood, but I was raised pretty poor like you, Adam. That says everybody. Yeah.

So, I mean, my dad was angry. He had anger problems, and he dealt with his own drug addiction. Oh, well, that's massive. You were traumatized by a drug addict dad. Yeah. It's totally different. But can we try some other things other than medication? Have you tried other forms of therapy and the aforementioned meditation and things like that?

Yeah. Before kids, I was really into yoga and meditating, and that helped. I just, I'm exhausted, and I have a lot. a hard time finding time to incorporate that. How's the, is the husband around? Yeah, he works in construction. He's a general contractor and he works his ass off. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a tough job. Yeah. You know, so, Drew, go ahead. Jump in here. Well, it's the same thing we were talking to Fab about earlier, which is you got to get the therapy. You know, I have anxiety disorder. I had panic disorder.

I had depression and, you know, and I didn't want to take medication. I did intensive therapy for many years. and it's not have anxiety. So it doesn't bother me anymore. And it's, you know, it takes time. It's rewiring the brain. But you have to, you know, yes, mindfulness is important. You've got to find time to get back to that somehow,

whether it's finding a way to hire help or get people from your family to help with the kids. And then you have to do some therapy, too. I mean, you had a drug addict, traumatizing rageaholic dad. That takes a lot to get over that. Yeah. And, Gina, I know I always sound like a kind of a broken record with this stuff. but I don't like, Drew, you got a heart out. When is your heart out?

45, let's say. Okay. I don't like people wearing everything on their sleeve all the time. I don't mean sharing. I just mean going, I am broken. I am broken. I am broken. I know that's what you're saying.

But what I'm saying is, is I have this disorder. I have this disorder. I can't shake this disorder. That mantra of that sort of brokenness that a lot of people feel like they have to just wear it out there all the time, I don't think it's going to help your cause. I think it's all right to go, this is part of my life. It's not a good part. There are many parts that are good. There's some negatives.

I'd like to focus on this. I grew up an environment that was worse than a lot of people. But, hey, it's 2016. I'm living in Santa Barbara. you know, how bad can it be? I got a beautiful child. I got a husband who works his butt off and who can take care of the honeydos around the house because he's a contractor. So let's try to work on this, but let's not walk around as a victimized, broken citizen. It just bothers me that people are up in their head in that all the time. I just want you to say, here's what I got,

here's what I need to work on doesn't mean I'm that person. Well, let me frame it even another way, which is that, you know, Freud used to talk about, you know, real mental illness versus ordinary misery. And ordinary misery and grief and dying and stress, that's ordinary. That's life. Yeah. And we have to sort of, and this is back to your grit conversation, an interesting way. This is sort of like we have to learn to manage ordinary misery. And again, to pull back, harken back to what I said at the opening of this show, other people help us manage ordinary misery. I agree.

And we need to really build our interpersonal struts or resources. You want to be miserable? Gary's found the new Domino's commercial. They brought back to make me miserable. They brought back the Noid. Oh, my God. I'm going to see it. Domino's has a 799 Monday through Jersey carryout deal.

But if you carried out Friday through Sunday, you might have felt bamboozled. So, we're starting. standing the deal to every day and giving people who paid more a little payback, like the Smith's family who got free pizza for a year. They love pizza. We gave Brad a day with the noid. No. You're welcome.

And we gave Rajesh a nightlight. Brad got the day with the noise. Go to pizza payback. I didn't even know why you'd ever want to bring that up ever again. Yeah, you'd be embarrassed about it. But I must be the last man. I am officially the last man on earth that watches commercials. I'm the last human being.

It's so funny because every time you talk to an ad agency or anybody that was in that business, it's all like, yeah, no, man, we can't. You can't just run commercial blocks anymore. Everyone just fast forwards through them. I'm here to tell you, everybody, I come in two times a week and I go, did you see this? And everyone goes, no. And I go, you're not seeing this commercial that run the crap out of this thing. They never stop running the commercial.

I go, I don't watch commercials. I fast forward through the commercial. and I go, I try, but I have to stop because I see something and it draws me back. But as I've said, Drew, go back to the 50s, then go to the mid-80s, you know, and then go to where we are now. Nothing is a cleaner snapshot of where we are as a society than the commercials. Yeah, yeah. It is, it literally is, we have 30 seconds to paint you a picture of America in 2016. And in the 50s, it's like, hi, I'm Bob Hope for Buick.

You know what I mean? He's smoking. You know, that's a little, there's a tell. The way they're dressed. The hair, the music. You look at those Spuds McKenzie Budweiser commercials from like 1986. That is 1986 down to the second. In a time capsule.

in a time capsule. If anyone ever said, well, what was the vibe like in 1986 or what was the hair like or what was the fashion like or what was the music like or what was going on? And I go, just watch one Spuds McKenzie Budweiser commercial from 1986 and you'll know exactly what 1986 felt like. But watch a commercial from the 50s or the 60.

You'll know a little snapshot. Something I was talking about in my podcast, you think about these commercials, you watch these like insurance commercials, And they're these adults. And you know what's funny? They go, you know, you bought your car. You named it Brad.

You took care of Brad. He saw you through two boyfriends and three jobs. And then one day you totaled Brad. And then Liberty Mutual came along. And you did your happy dance. There would be no commercial in the 50s where someone was talking about doing a happy dance that involved car insurance. Yeah.

Or you named your car. You loved your car. That's a car insurance commercial. The commercials would have been a bunch of, we're 22% lower than our competitors, right? A guy with thick glasses and a sky tie. And he'd be explaining to you that at Liberty Mutual, your payouts are 10% higher and they're two weeks sooner than their leading competition.

And they talk about their resources and their stability. And they'd say, They'd say, we've been serving Americans since 1941. We're ex-military. We understand this country's needs. No, they got a chick doing a happy dance. Drew, you just got to watch it just once. Just for fun.

But I don't understand. Remember I said we're appealing to everyone's feelings? They're feelings. Everyone's got to have feelings. Car insurance, feelings. And how they're pumping Rihanna into every sports bar. music for 11-year-old girls is pumped into, I was in a Detroit sports bar,

and they're pumping in a music for 11-year-olds, but this is a car insurance commercial. So here's how you know where we are. It's 2016. You just heard the DNC last night, right? Yeah. All about feelings. Yeah.

Here's more feelings. You owned your car for four years. You named it Brad. Oh, my God. You loved Brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. Two boyfriends, three jobs,

you're like, nothing can replace Brad. Then Liberty Mutual calls, and you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement. If you said nothing can replace Brad, and then the insurance company called him replaced Brad with a new Brad and you break into your happy dance. But imagine a madman scenario where they're going, we're going to get a chick, she's going to talk about falling in love of the car,

they're going to name it Brad, then she's going to do a happy dance. They're going to what the fuck are you talking about? This is car insurance. We're not selling a breakfast toaster treats. Cereal. It's just car insurance. See how everything's rolling toward the feelings? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The feeling. So what's going on politically? Well, the politicians are going, hey, this 24-year-old's breaking into a happy dance. I wanted her to break. Do you see how the dialogue is going? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Interesting. That's why you guys should not fast forward through commercials. All right. Real quick here. Let's bring up Ryan. No?

You guys, yeah, what's going on? Hey, this kind of directed towards October. Have a long-term girlfriend living together for three years,

been together for five. Of course, the subject of having kids eventually is coming up once we're done with school. And she's been a vegan, vegetarian for about seven years,

vegan for about three. And she's talked about raising a kid from birth on a vegan. in diet. I was wanting to know what you used all of that, sir. Well, Drew's not a fan. Well, I just know that we evolved a generalized gut with generalized dentition, and, you know, you want to be careful with your diet, but to get obsessive is to become Adam Carolla's mom.

That was her, your mom was that day's version. She was always fat, to be fair to her. Yeah, but it was that day's version of this. She was always wildly out of shape and flabby. And I worry more about the emotional sort of, yeah. I, I, I, I, here's, here's what I would say, Ryan. Um, I agree with Drew. Hey, feed them beef, feed them grass fed beef. Okay.

Fine. It's all available. All the good stuff's available. It's not about the physical health. Uh, I'm sure there is a version somehow with a bunch of plant based alternatives and supplements or something to make it okay. That's going to make it okay. That's not my argument.

And by the same. token, if you go down to the Whole Foods and you buy some ground beef, you'll be fine with that as well or some wild salmon. You'll be fine with that. So the argument isn't really, is it this, is it that? There's an emotional component. It's the preciousness. Right, right, right, special kids, special, special, right. And now you've destroyed your child. You're going to destroy the child and there's trouble. And you've created and imposed this thing. that is going to cause an issue when you go out to eat, when the kid gets to school,

and then the other kids want to know, what do you got there? I got a kale and hickama sandwich with an Indians tear for dipping sauce. What? Why not peanut butter and jelly or why not some bologna or something? Well, we don't support, and now the kids getting the crap beat out of them or made fun of or whatever. I'm just saying,

I don't want you guys get divorced. forced, I would just say, let's not create a lot of energy around food. Yeah. When the child, by the way, this kid will be found over at Arby's eating a triple stacker in when they're 13. Well, describe what you used to do at the neighbors. I'd open a can of fucking pie filling and dump it in a bowl and then put mini marshmallows and toll house morsels in it and spoon it into my mouth because my mom wouldn't let me get near.

Sugar. You're creating energy. So what you don't, here's what I would say to my wife. I don't want to create energy around it. I would like to give the kid options. I think let's start off by not creating this environment. And then at a certain point, we'll start talking about some of the pros of the vegan vegetarian lifestyle. And if the child wants to go along on that journey, then that's fine.

Humans have been raising children for hundreds of thousands of years just by raising them. Okay. And there's nothing special about your child. It's just another child. Well, you want to love it? Do you want to do it? Drew is tapping into the emotional, precious, whatever part of it, and I am with the people as well. All right, go get our guests. Select quote, buying life insurance is like hiring a bodyguard for your bank account after you're gone. Jokes aside, life insurance is something you want to get right and right away. I'm getting the right cover. at the right price, thanks to select quote. They'll find a policy that fits your health, lifestyle, and budget, and they work for you for free. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Select quote. They shop. You save. Am I right, Daphne? Life insurance is never cheaper

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Tungus was hot for this big thing made of Jolly Ranchers. The women seemed to be hot for him too. They like... He's made of hot dogs. Do you want to hear it? Yeah, it's got sticky buns for hands. Tungis share. Oh, God.

Breakfast sandwiches. Hmm. Julia? The hard want what the heart want. The new turkey sauce you to be clear. Have you had intercourse with Tumas? No, not yet. I mean, I can't speak for the other girls, I guess, but...

Oh, what's he using down there, Drew? Browardworth. Yeah, but imagine the disappointment on Catherine's face when she gets back to his place and there's chapstick. He's got something from behind the counter. It's the mini, mini... Don't see wrong? Catherine Feeney is their name.

Anyway, Drew and I were laughing about this up on stage at the Ice House. I think your boyfriend is a big fan. Yeah, my boyfriend's a big fan. He was very excited. When I got home that day, he had to, like, sit me down. He'd be like, oh, my God. You will not believe who they talked about on the podcast day. It was you.

What is the life of an up-and-coming actress like now for you in 2000? See, Drew and I were out of the scene, you know. There was a time, I think, back in the day when there was some auditions and some meetings and things of that nature. Well, for me and Drew, you did a little bit of that stuff too. But now it's just sort of whatever. We're off doing our own thing. But what's the climate like out there?

It's still like that. I mean, there's still auditions. If you're lucky and things are going well. I would say the thing that's probably most different is people, you've really, really have to create your own material now. So that's the thing that I would say is probably different from what you guys would have experienced. You have to, everyone who's really going for it out here is involved in, like I do lots of improv out here, and you have to really hustle to do that. You have to create your own teams. You have to go out and perform every night. Even for improv,

that's interesting. There's no other study of theater to join. You had to create your own. Well, no, you can do both. You can do both. But I mean, if you're really, if you're really going for it and you're really keeping yourself busy, you're pursuing stuff on your own all the time. You're writing web series. You're writing little sketches that you're either filming and putting online or you're performing live around the city. So it's a lot of that. It's a lot of self-created things. Well, in a weird way, it mirrors the economy, which is it used to be, well, what the guy do?

Well, my dad worked at IBM for 41 years. My dad worked for Chevron or my dad worked at Ford or Chevy for 50 years. Then he retired. Now it's like, what do you do now? Well, I do, I have a thing, I drive Uber. I do a lot of Ubering. Well, lots of actors do that too. I do part-time.

I have a part-time gig. I work at a club. I do a little bartending and I Uber, and sometimes I Uber people myself to the bartending gig. But I have nine jobs and Drew has 11 jobs. And it's up to you to keep sort of laying track out ahead of you. Whereas back in the day, you get a call. Hey, we need someone, Burnett, cute. attractive but believable

and then you'd show up there'd be a basket of sides and you'd get these sides you'd highlight your character and you're just going in and read yeah that still happens but I think it's more that you can't bank on that now because very few people are just actors most people are actors and producers and writers

if you're just an actor it's probably because you got lucky somewhere along the way and you're just constantly working as an actor but most people are really broadening their skill set Even editing, you know, you have to be able to do it all at this point. And, you know, Alec Baldwin's on Broadway, then he's doing a Capital One commercial, then he's hosting a game show. He has a podcast, too.

And he's doing a podcast. Like, that's the new normal. I, you know, I'm guessing John Wayne was just John Wayne, you know, pretty much back in the day. I mean, that's how Humphrey Bogart was Humphrey Bogart. You know, that's how they did it. Now, I always laugh because I go, could you imagine telling these guys, like, could you, could you, could. Telling John Wayne about this? No, no.

Imagine telling Charles Bronson, you've got to go down to Comic-Con. And he'd be like, what the fuck for? Because you need to dance in front of a bunch of nerds because you've got an action movie coming out and you're playing a character and they need... And he'd be like, the fuck don't want to hang out? I'm going to stay here and drink Scotch and bang some starlets. Like, no, no, get on a train.

Go to San Diego and start dancing. That always cracks me up. The leading men of our day. All have to go to Comic-Con and dance for nerds. Think about all the chain-smoking, scotch-drinking, womanizing guys of your 50s and 60s. Turning over in their grave. Just turning over. No, yeah.

It's like, I stay here and bang underage chicks. No, you don't. You're going to Comic-Con. There's a bunch of nerds there. But it's all part of the new dance. Yeah, definitely. Errol Flynn. Earl Flynn's like, I got to go on a yacht and bang some sisters.

Yeah. Underage, maybe. Yeah. I always think of guys like Robert Mitchum. That's where I think of guys, like the opposite of guys who would go to that thing. But we're talking about this sort of everything trending toward the happy dance and young people and young women. It's the young women. Wherever you go, you'll hear music for young girls, not young boys. My son, they're both ten.

He likes Pearl Jam. She likes the Rihanna and the Britney Spears. and what's playing when you go everywhere. Brianna. Yeah, that's where we're heading. What's your boyfriend do? He's an actor too. Yeah.

How is that? And are people paying the bills? Yeah. Like I, oh, well, I do lots of commercials. And commercials are great because that's exactly what they do. They pay the bills. Usually cool things like this don't happen from commercials. So this is very exciting.

But yeah, we both do a lot of commercials. And then, like I said, we're just kind of hustling on the side, auditioning. Because that's our work. That's how you feel your time basically is auditioning. Can you, and what's the end game? I mean, the big goal, because some people, it's becoming a star and some people, they want to create and write and do comedy. What's the goal?

For me, I definitely want to create and write and do comedy. I started in musical theater as a kid. I'm from New York, and I did a national Broadway tour when I was 10. That's how I kicked off my acting career. Annie. Everyone always thinks Andy, because that's the only show with little girls in her, right? No, it was actually ragtime. Oh, yeah?

where there's one little girl in it. But so I always hope to end up back in New York and be able to do more theater. But for now, here, the goal is definitely TV, film, and creating my own stuff. What is that like now in New York City? Because they take all these branded people and stick them into roles that they've never done. Honestly, that's part of why I moved out here because I started seeing that trend. And I felt like, you know what? First of all, it's a lot easier to play young on stage than it is on screen.

So I was like, all right, while I'm. I'm young, I should capitalize on that and come out here and try and make a name for myself because so many of the people who are starring on Broadway are film and TV actors now. Well, if you want to see and again... As seen on the Toomga's commercial. This just seems like a joke. Brand the marquee. If you'd like to see the fetching Catherine with a K, Feeney with two or threes, actually.

Lots of ease. Lots of ease. Dot com is where you can go. And I imagine we could see some of your work there. Yeah, you can see some of my work there. I mean, if you follow me on Twitter or Instagram, you'll be able to find all my fun stuff. So, Catherine, R-Y-N-U-N-U-N-U-Fenny. It's the Irish way to spell it, apparently.

Or Instagram at catherine-fianney. At catherine.companee. Yep. Well, this has been fun, eclectic and a little bizarre. But why, how did it even come up? How did it come up on that? Well, let's see, Drew, you're always the engine behind all created. Oh, no, wait a minute.

You sat there like a fucking locks while I... No, I never heard of it before. Of course, you never heard of it. Because people tell me all the time, I've never seen. this and I go how come you watch as much TV as I watch but you've never seen it and then I have this insulting

conversation with them where I go... You're fucking genius. How did it come up? I see I carry a buck slip. I make notes. I watch society and I watch TV and when I see things I make notes. I don't mind the part where people tell me like you're crazy

I mind the part that they go I've never seen this before I go you have seen it it just didn't register because it didn't mean anything to you because you're skimming past it because what the fuck do you care about Tungas? I care about everything because I just want to have it came up in our conversation. I wrote it down

I'm sure. You had planned to bring it up already. Yeah, Drew. He called me 10 minutes before you before he got this 100% true. Why are you? Well, people know why am I yelling at you? I'm trying to stop Adam from telling himself. He called me 10 minutes before the show and said I saw this ridiculous commercial at home 45 minutes ago. Have the picture ready.

Well, would you like to rewind 37 seconds and listen to the part where I said to you, I carry a buck slip, I wrote it down, I brought it in, and then you went, well, how did it come up? It felt like it came up in conversation, like something triggered you to talk about it. That's what makes me the best.

You're genius. Catherine, genius, your presence of genius. I know, I can tell. These are questions from a doctor, everybody. Until next end, I'm prolo for Catherine Feeney and Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.