The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #400: Well Maybe You Did, But You Don’t

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

August 25, 2016Adam and Drew open the show touching on the rarely discussed film Taboo 2 and specifically it’s musical composition. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller with a concern about his binge drinking habits. The guys then turn the conversation to Adam’s frustration with certain forms of art and Drew explains that he believes it to be more a problem with hubris than anything else. As the show wraps up they speak to a caller who is wondering about Dr. Drew’s thoughts on adderall and adderall abuse.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Time for throwback episode, August 25th, 2016. We opened the show touching on taboo two of all things. Adam's favorite movie from long ago, specifically the music, though. We get into that. Get to the phone, speak to a caller with a concern about his binge drinking. Then we go to a conversation about Adam's frustration with certain forms of art. And I explained the problem of hubris, which, boy, that's 2016. I did not see what was coming.

And we talked to a caller who was wondering about my thoughts on Adderall and Adderall abuse, which also has gotten much worse since those days. Enjoy. Episode 400 from August 2016. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on.

Got to get it on. choice but to get it on mandate get it on thanks for listening thanks for telling a friend cheers mate i'm so glad to know where they get it on came from now excited every time you well i got corrected oh i i thought it was well get it on got it on got to get it on get it on get it all get it all get it all that's the chase song and then there's got to get it on the taboo two theme song got to get it on got it come on true well i don't I'm, I'm, got to get it on. Got to get it on.

Yes, I do. I'm bringing this up. You're right. And although I'm not the same sort of. Well, that's not the right word because it almost doesn't capture the full meaning of your relationship with that film. Great film. I don't have the same passionate engagement with that film. Sad. Right?

Wouldn't that be the right way to describe that? Absolutely. And so you're right. You've exposed me to that song before. and I'm imagining that the previous explanations you've given me I didn't either get or I didn't they didn't connect because I didn't remember them. Well, let's. But this, I get it, I get it, I get, I will not forget. Well, there's two songs.

Should we play them both? I don't know if they have the Tabu two theme song, but this is the, got to get it on. Sorry, did you just ask for the Tabu two theme? Well, I don't know if you call it the theme, but it's just called Get It It On It's in Tabu, too. There's a couple of songs in there. Yeah, the theme is what we tend to play on Ace on the House. Oh, yeah, well, that's the famous one. Yeah, right. He has it all, yes, he does.

Don't play it off. He makes me want to wretch. He's got it all. Yes, he does. Because to me, you know, we make fun of all the crappy 70s songs, the rape of child rape songs that are just routine in the 70s. That song in Taboo, too, encapsulates. Slate's all that bullshit for me too. Well, they're singing about a guy.

Singing and glorifying. This is a song about a guy who's having sex with his sister and his mom. And he has it all. Well, one could argue that is the ultimate, you know, don't have to leave the house to get a blowjob, you know, scenario. If one, you know. Now, occasionally, I guess, if your mom and sister travel, like they go to Europe for a couple of weeks. You have to have a child to take care of it.

We've got a situation there, but you've got to have a child to take care of the. He's got it all. He knows how to please that. He does more. Like, yeah, you think about your singing about. Oh, here's the get it on. Right? No.

Oh, this isn't it. This is not the song. Is this the one we did last time? I don't know. No, that's not that song either. It says, or it's just a weird version of, you know, the Internet's one of those things where it spits out weird versions of stuff. Yeah, it is weird that the song's called, He's Got It All.

Yes, he does. And you're picturing some philanthropist, billionaire playboy. You're picturing like Kennedy Jr. John John, right? But he's raping his mom and his sister. And then it goes on to talk about how they are so grateful and how lucky for them.

It's like, Jesus, right. Well, he can do more than you. ever imagine and when he does he does it with me oh yes he does but by the way the oh yes he does part the biggest cop out in songwriting history we are still

living with the aftermath of that bullshit well I'll tell you I'll tell you the only real dangerous here's the real danger of all those things from the 70s and into the 80s that I grew up on

taboo two is guilty of it, but so is James Bond. Okay. And so is just about so is gone with the wind. What? Go ahead. I'm not saying gone with the wind is as good as tabbers too. I hope I'm being clear. I hope you don't

mishear me. Of course. Well, again, I know you're passionate engagement with the one film. I want to read a bunch of tweets. You rarely bring up. But no, here's what I'm saying. Racist piece of crap, right? That's what you call that usually. But here's, that's what I'm called. But now listen.

Dig, Drew. There was a theme, certainly prevalent in taboo too, but also the groundwork was laid by Gone with the Win and, and again, all the Bond series picked up on it, which is a woman does not initially want to engage sexually. So you must rape. Well, no. Go with the win. No, no. There's basically an engagement hymen.

Yes, yes. And once you break that engagement, Hyman, now you're in. It's just you have to sort of break through. You got to go, hey, Kool-Aid on the no. So what you do is she doesn't want to be kissed, but what she doesn't know, she does want to be kissed. Right. Because once you kiss her right, she starts to melt like drawn butter.

So you just put one on her, and she does a move where she goes, mm-hmm, like get away, and then goes, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. And so all the films are the 30s and 40s a kid. Right. And so what in taboo too? It's like, you know. Just take the logic all the way home.

Yeah, you go into your sister's room. Yeah, she doesn't really want to. Yeah, but next to, you know, you're going to blow job. Of course, that she wants to do, right? Well, she really wants. She doesn't know it. That's why he has it all. Let me go further with Gone with Wynne.

I wasn't kidding when I said the rape thing. Because you remember the one scene where in a drunken, rageful domestic violence exchange, he carries her up the stairs and rapes her. And then she wakes up the next day. singing and so happy. Remember this? These were all the lessons that were taught to me at a very early age. But the, say what you will, Adam, about progressivism and PC. There has been a net move in a positive direction. Maybe it's been at a big cost and maybe it's gone too far, but there's been a, there's been some movement, I think. Right? Um, we can look at something like that

to go, God, yes, that's ridiculous. Look, of course. Look, look, it's, let me explain something, Drew. Please, explain something. You've always said this. You explain something? All right. Everything can be brought back and down to unions.

Huh? Unions didn't exist. So they took people and they locked them into factories and they chain the doors and sometimes those factories would catch on fire and they couldn't get out. And at some point, the people that were working for, 14 cents a day, took to the streets and said, we got to organize. We're going to get together. We got to get our paycheck and we need a break. We need a piece of this capitalist system.

No. No. Well, sort of. I don't even know that it's, we need a piece of it. But, hey, it's 110 degrees in this factory. We need a fan in the window. I'm getting lightheaded from breathing my own air. You need a humane working environment. Okay. We need a safe. Yeah.

environment. We need this. We need to take, I'm standing here on my feet all day. We need to go in the break room and sit down and have a cup of coffee. And so they did that. And that's a good thing. And then they moved on to, and you know what? We're not coming in on Christmas and working that day, but we want to get paid. Oh, yeah. Oh, is this from Tabu, too? Don't be stupid, Drew, of course. It's the song we've been talking about for 20 minutes. It's not how I imagine it. I've never heard this part. Yes, you have.

No, no, I haven't. Please. I've never seen the film. I'm sorry to tell you. I played it on Loveline 131 times. Not this one. I don't have a good memory, Drew, but I can tell you I've sung to this song on. Now, it could have been one of the many times you're in New York cashing a check while I was left with Dr. Spaz to hold down the fort.

But yes, you have heard this song. You don't remember. Is it the mom or the sister? Could be during the orgy scenes. There could be ever. I like, I like the sax here. It feels so good.

You know what I would love to do? I would love to. Hold on. Come on, you're stepping on. Then we're going right back into it. Tell Max or Pat, he can no longer open musically for me unless he works this into the set.

Done and done. Might be a tall order. But here's what I was. That's not that tight. This Adams' request. Here's what I would like. Hold on. Thank you.

Going and coming with you. Oh, baby. Let's just enjoy this song. Oh, my God. I have never heard it. Yes, you have. This is an abominating. I mean.

Hey, man-eaters, a lot worse than this song. A lot worse. Important security message. Please call the note. Uh-oh. Most, uh, what was? Is that? Whatever illicit sight I found this thing on decided to...

No, Gary, that was in the movie. You're wrong. Admit you're wrong. Drew, you've heard this song before. Okay, all right. And it is better than at least five in excess songs that are played on the radio. Certainly better at a couple of hollow-and-out songs. But I would like to ask our listeners,

there's got to be a couple degrees of separation from the woman who's saying this song. what a dream come true would it be for you Adam if we could get that woman on the horn on the line and just interview her jokes on you drew we've had her son on the line that was the other one though that was one is she the same one same voice according to him the guy the guy went he was using his mother and his girlfriend as vocals right he went yeah he went to the premiere who I do all right I'm trying to think pieces together I think we spoke to the son the son to mean who's an older gentleman of of the woman no no I think we spoke to a son who did the music right and then he admitted later that he had taken his mother to the premiere and used her as like backing vocals on some of the

tracks right but they went to like literally westwood where the premiere was I mean this is a porn movie in 1982 I mean this is porn was big and and went to the theater oh my god at a premiere yeah so so wait a minute so Who is the woman singing in that case? Do we know? The mom. That's not a backup singer. Or the girlfriend.

And why couldn't we talk to her? She's not around anymore? I don't know, Drew. Because I would love to know what was going through her mind when they proposed this to her. Well, let me say that. Let me imagine this was. Well, let me tell you this. First off.

Dying to know. First off, a couple things. Yeah. We got to get. He's got it all. Yeah. We just, he's got it all even better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Well, hold on. Step on it for one second. Let me just... I get nauseated just hearing that intro music. You said, what was the mom thing? What was anyone thinking? What was the singer thinking? Because she may not have know what she was doing, but the words were still so like, what?

Look. Well, first off, the... The words weren't what, and he's got at all, if you don't know what you're singing about. The going and coming and the guy to get it on. I mean, it's like, what, let me explain something, true. First off, these movies would have premieres at big theater. I now learn. I now understand that, which is insane.

Well, so, you know, deep throat played in Times Square for six months. Dude, we had a viewing at my college. We had to all go, like, they played it on a V, on a beta max and a television set, and half the college showed up in a psychology lecture hall. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's crazy. All right, but my point is this. Also, you don't get it because you don't really have a, I don't think you have a version of this as a physician.

When I was doing comedy traffic school, I thought I was in show business. Yeah. I felt like I'm getting paid to do comedy. Okay. After getting paid to drive cabs and work bus tables and do all that stuff, to. To literally get paid for singing or telling a joke, even if a bunch of guys in Arlita who went through a four-way stop sign at two miles an hour. Literally Arlita? Literally Arlita.

It feels like I'm in show business. I think it felt to them like, hey, we're getting paid to play music. I get it. And by the way, this is a stepping stone. I'm an ass cap. Bub, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. This is going to get us on to the next whatever.

All right. Chris from Detroit. Hold on. Chris? Get it on, gentlemen. How are you doing? Going on, ma'am. I just wanted to ask you some questions about binge drinking and moderation, and our moderation therapy, I guess. Okay, moderation management, right? Yeah. I'm 40. I've got a good career on my own company, happily married, three kids, all that kind of good, cliche stuff.

Yeah. I can control my drinking as far as if I have a networking event, I can go have two beers, call it a night. If I'm at the in-laws and I've got to drive the kids home, I can say no to a drink. I got a liquor can full of food at home, I can say no. Okay. But when I get the opportunity to drink, I love to get drunk. Okay.

When it's, you know, having the kids and the wife for a bonfire and the kids go to bed after the s'mores, the wife goes to bed after a couple glasses of the line, I'll stay up until 4 a.m. I don't normally smoke, but I'll chain smoke and pounders. drinks are on the fire until I black out and wake up the next morning. By yourself? How bad is that? Yeah. All right.

And how often does that happen? During summer, maybe once a week. I know, golf outing in there, too, twice a week. Normally it's not on the weekdays because I've got stuff to do during the year, probably once every 10 days, two weeks. It's not like there's a specific formula that says, well, it's Friday. It's time for data to Taiwan on or, hey, two, the whole day. Ruffie once every week or two.

And has that progressed over time? It's actually gotten less. I mean, going through college, I went from the Army to a fraternity and became a bartender after that, putting myself through school. So back in the day, it was drinking six, seven nights a week to access. Now it's no drinks for a while, but, you know, like I said, if I got a chance to go at it, I'd really like going at it. All right.

I know you want to talk to you. I can tell you. Not many people have this gene, this I can smoke cigarettes and then not smoke cigarettes. I have that gene. So I can speak to this a little. The only part of this that I found troubling. His story or the behavior? Behavior and the story.

But whatever was the up until 4 a.m. Like I feel like, good, knock yourself out. The wife goes to bed. The kids go to bed. You're not driving or operating. any heavy equipment, do that. But watch some sports center. But, you know, 12.30, 1 o'clock, it's time to go tuck yourself in.

Why is 4 a.m. different? It feels excessive. It feels like, well, no, I know the whole thing's excessive. But what I'm saying is it literally just feels like three hours. Well, first off, it kind of kicks you back until noon the next day. Like, it keeps you in bed. You know, if you're going to sleep eight hours, you go to bed of four. So there's a consequence.

Well, it rolls over into the next day. It affects your kids, your wife. Other people are affected. Well, and it also has a thing where it turns into, it gets into this witching hour after 1 a.m. At 4 a.m., it starts, I mean, you're messing with the clock. You're messing with the kids. I'm just saying personally, I wouldn't say, hey, no more drinks or you can't do this or you can't do that. I would say what, you know, you know by 1 a.m.

You're sufficiently lubed up, right? Yeah. And you have that impulse where you go, one more drink, one more cigarette, and I'll call it a night. But if you really just pause for a second, it's sort of, I found this with eating. I think Drew will back me up on this. You know, there's that move where you go out and order a bunch of sushi

and you're powering through everything and you're eating like we eat, like we're certain inspired. And then there's that move where you're going, Oh, you're getting to just two more pieces on it. And you're thinking, oh, I got to catch a waitress. We need another spicy tuna roll over here. I'm running out. I'm running out.

You get momentum. I'm running out, right. But if you just sort of back your hand off and lean back a little bit, take a sip off the Sapporo and set it down, just sort of decomm-get out of this shark-feeding frenzy mode. There is a relationship between seeking, wanting, and liking. And when all three are going at full tilt, they're just reinforcing one another. Right. And I am?

Yes. I'm fair. I am kind of a compulsive person where if there's something good for me, like when I start getting back in shape again, I start packing my meals. I start getting up earlier. I start going to the gym. I start, you know, doing all the right things. Yeah. But I'm the exact same when I start.

Right. Here's, here's what I would ask. And you can call back and tell me if you can do it. Again, that feeling of the sushi is running out. to get more, we got to get more. We realized, you just ate 27 pieces of sushi and had a Sapporo. Like, you're fine. You're full.

You're just, but you're moving, you're moving like the crazy shark that's in a frenzy and it's abiding the other shark, you know. So can you take it? Let me frame it another way, Chris, which is that, you know, you're an alcoholic, you're a binge alcoholic and you're not ready to do anything about it, and that's cool. But when people have this drinking pattern, it tends to slowly stay. sneak up on them if they allow it to do so. And so what Adam is saying, why not just the way you control it in other ways, find ways to control even the binges so they don't start to create more

momentum, develop consequences, start connecting the dots so more of them develop. It does have a momentum to it, not just that night, but has a momentum over time. And it's also literally just a moment in time. There's that little moment time where you say... Well, it's the same point when he says, I can have two beers and put him down. You've got to be able to, at some point, take a breath. Here's what I would... I'd like you to try this.

You're right. And at that point, it's normally... Am I going home? And I'm going to keep boozing because I need to get my ass home and get off the road to tie one on? Or am I just good. I mean, I take the time. Here's what I'd like you to do.

The 4 a.m. part scares me. How about give them 2 a.m.? Tell me wrap it up at 2. Wrap it up at two. Tell me, because there's that moment where you go, I'm going to step out on the patio and have a cigarette. But there's that little moment where you go, I'm tired, it's late, I've had enough. I'm going to bed. Better angels of our nature, we call it.

Just see if you can summon that. He really wants to know as he hurting himself. That was his actual question. He never got to that, which is the liver, hard to say. It's remarkably resilient. And, you know, giving the liver some recovery time as you are is important. So hard to say on that. I'm much more concerned with the brain effects of these kinds of heavy binges.

It is somewhat like getting hit on the head. You know, we were talking, was it last show, about chronic traumatic and cephalopathy from head injuries? And that's kind of what happens, you know, it's not exactly the injury, but it's sort of how it creeps up on you the way CTE does. So I worry more about your brain than anything else. And then I worry that there will be consequences. All right. We got the tab by the same. And by the way, your idea about moderation is okay.

I'm not going to say, oh, you got to stop drinking. No, you don't stop drinking until you're ready to stop, and it's working too much for you now, so I know you won't stop. Gary? Maybe. Well, we pulled it from the movie. Wow.

I never heard this part. It's our mom or the sister. He has it all. Yes, he does. Oh. He knows how to please in every detail. He's watching his sister go to high school or something. No, this is just them walking along in fan eyes.

Look at the hair. He does it with me. Oh, yes, he does. You know that you thought. You knew him. Yeah, I thought he wasn't fucking his mom and his sister, but it turns out of his long. Yeah, you don't. But you don't.

No, you didn't know. He's raping. Everyone under his shirt. No, I'm raping. They wanted it. I try. And when he does, he satisfies me. I like where he just reveals what he wants you to see.

Yeah, you do that too if you have sex, your mom and sister, right, true? Yeah, you don't know. Wait, you'd want it to. If you won't leave. There is with mom, I guess. Mm-hmm. Do mom and sister start fighting over him? No.

No, that never happens. No. Sister Mom. They know they have at all. Mom, Sister White. Very bizarre. Oh, my God. He only reveals what he wants you to see.

See, that's when I talk about how the horrible the 70s were, people would just go, yeah, he's into that, man. That was probably like 82 or 81 or something. Yeah, the residual. They're just like, hey, whatever you're into, man, that's what he's into. That's what they're into. Who are you to say? It's like, who are you to say? Oh, my God.

I am a, as a artist. I am dumbfounded by other people's art oftentimes. I mean, this also goes to Yoko Ono. But it's like, I just sit around going, what the fuck are you doing? Like, I'm a singer-songwriter. This is not comical when you're, right? When you start writing this down, you don't start laughing?

Did you hear Yoko Ono's last performance in New York with all the New York's finest turned up to hear her screaming? Did you ever hear any of it? Well, I've heard, I mean, it's her screaming. Listen, it's what you do when you can't do the other thing, which I've always said. When you go to Amsterdam and you go look at Rembrandt and you go look at the Dutch masters and you go, wow, look what those guys could do. And then you go, well, where's the section where those guys just drew or painted six foot orbs? And it's like, that doesn't exist.

Well, why? Well, because they could do this. But when you can't do that, but you still would like to be regarded as an artist, then you draw the six foot orbs. When you would like to do, look, I know this. I know this in my heart of hearts, and I know exactly how it works and no one can ever convince. me any other way. If Yoko Ono could do what Cheryl Crow does, she would be doing what Cheryl Crow does, but she doesn't possess talent. Tempo, well, this time a year, I'm just trying to stay consistent, but life can get busy, and it's hard to cook every night. And that's why I use

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I don't give. I'm angry at Yoko Ono for wasting everyone's time with her hubris. Well, it's funny you would say that word. There are two words that keep coming out of my mouth over and over and over. And people never stop arguing with me about all these horrible artists. I think there are two evils in our time right now. One is being hubristic, hubris, and the other is bureaucracy. Those two things are really what we all should be looking at very carefully as the evil of our time.

Huberous, we have a government that tells us how to live. That's hubristic. We have a government that says, we have a government. He says, we have a system where people go, oh, I can't believe they'd elect fill in the bank. People are idiots. It's like, no, it's the genius of our system. That's democracy. People speak, and that's it.

They're not dumb. They're not anything. It's just, that's the system operating. It's funny, I brought up yesterday with somebody that Walter Mondale, when he was vice president and lost with President Carter to Reagan. He gave the greatest concession speech I've ever heard. And he said, he's got it all. It was very similar the lyrics of that, yeah.

But he said what? I was just going to say, yes, he does. Yes, he does. You guys ought to go on the road. He said, you know, in their own peaceful, quiet way, grocery stores and fire stations throughout the country that the American people speak up and make massive change peacefully. Yeah, that's our system.

It's not dumb. It's not because people on the coast know better, people in the interior are dumb. It's hubris to say otherwise. So you said it's hubristic. That's a word I'm very, very, people should not have the hubris to tell other people how to live or how the system should operate. That's hubristic. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree with that. I'm not sure. Well, here's what I'm, here's what I know. And let me just quickly say, even though I was making a case for progressivism earlier, the hubristic piece is where it goes off the rail. So go ahead. Well, as I was saying earlier, geez, is that this show about the unions? Yeah.

It starts off. I was talking about that on this show. Yeah, I think so. The unions? Yeah. I didn't finish my piece. I had to focus on taboo too. But the unions work in a way that was a good idea.

Everything was a good idea at a certain point. And then you smash cut to 2016. and in California, I'll screw up some of the details, but in California, there's a group of minority students who are bringing a lawsuit against tenure because they're basically saying that you take all the crap teachers, you can't boot them out. It takes an average of like seven years

to get a L.A. Unified School teacher removed and $250,000 worth of court, whatever, and so we don't do it. So you take all the worst teachers who get tenure after two years and you kick them down to the low-income minority schools because Rich Whitey ain't putting up with these guys. Get it? Yep. So they all get pushed down. You can't get rid of them.

So you just push them down. You force them on somebody. It forced them to go out to Silmar, which is 92% Latino and ruin those kids because Mama's working in. English might not be her thing. And she is not marching down to the principal's office and having a heated exchange about how this person is teaching. A, she may not even be here legally. She wants to fly under the radar. B, she's working all day.

She's too busy. She's not going to get up and start a ruckus. This is basically stealing from drug dealers. They're not going to the cops. But your point is, yeah. So the unions were a good idea, but they created some bad. Well, so some... And they start serving their own needs rather than needs of people.

Or the union just becomes a giant machine. Which is bureaucracy again. Right. So somebody said, let's get rid of these teachers. And the union stepped up and said, no. And now you have any, you know, there's a worst case scenario where some of these guys are pedophiles and God knows what and going to these super low-income communities and getting away with murder. they couldn't get away with it in my community with the kids that go to our school because that would be insane. But they can go to these low-income communities and get away with almost murder.

And that's the union protecting them. So it's like, yeah, is the church a good thing? In theory, it's good. But now you're protecting pedophile priests and it's not a good thing. Why? Well, it's the size. It's what happens when something gets big. When something gets big.

You're bureaucratic, yeah. Yeah. It's like a zucchini. Do you like zucchini? Yeah. Do you like a huge zucchini? No, it's mealy and weird. Write that down. It doesn't taste right. Write that down, Gary. Government is like zucchini. It's like zucchini.

There is a size. I want a t-shirt. I want a t-shirt. There's a right size for the government. It's that perfect zucchini size. Of course, he's talking about penises. It's a veiled, it's a veiled analogy. No, you let anything in your garden just go. You let a zucchini go. Let's just switch it to eggplant.

Let's go all the way to eggplant. There's a racial component to that, Drew. Come on now. Why do you always have to go there? The point is this. You leave the zucchini and you leave it unattended and it will grow to the size of a space saver spare for a car and then it'll turn to mealy mush. You got to keep it at the right size. So is the answer no zucchini?

No, that's not the answer. The answer is there's a right size. Right size zucchini. That's what I'm saying. The best zucchini. The best zucchini. The L.A. Unified School District is grown into a giant zucchini. And by the way, do you guys really give a shit about kids?

Because it sounds like you don't. The best zucchini is the zucchini that zucchini's least. That's right. Okay. Baby, you want to hop back on the phone? Let's do so. Talk to Mike. Mike.

This has been a wild show. Wild. Hello? What's going on? Let me say. I got one more thought. One more? Here's the two people that want the bigger government.

there's two sides of our economy that want the bigger government at least well government wants bigger government government always wants bigger government but uh out here out in los angeles you have um the very elite rich Hollywood types they want bigger government because they don't care it's just they they honestly don't care their kids are going to private schools well they're not they're not they're They're not part of the system so much. Yeah. You live in Malibu and their kids go to a private school. It's like they're not involved.

It doesn't really much, you know, whatever's going on in Rio in terms of the sewage, that's Rio. That's sewage. I'm here. I drink Evian. That's not part of my world. You might as well be that far away from it. You live in Malibu, the palisage of kids go to a private school.

That's it. You have two nannies. That's fine. There's the rich people. They're all for it because they don't care. Then there's the poor people. They're all for it because they think they're going to get something that they never get. The middle sort of understands that, A, they're not going to do anything, but B, this is going to affect me.

Yeah. So it's not going to be good. The lower end, I mean, just thinks they're going to do something that they never do. Now, why? And part of it is, I don't think the lower end is very good at math. but if you just step back and look at the numbers over the last 40, 50 years, they're not doing anything for you. I don't know why every time there's a fresh sheet of paper and you want to talk about humorous. Politicians are the only one, though the only people on the planet that can literally be the coach of a football team that's 2 and 14.

for the last eight years and then get up on the platform and have a pep rally and explain how much they're going to do for the squad even though they were in charge of the squad. They literally will say, I know the last eight years stunk. We were two and 14. That was bad. But now, now we're going to the moon. And it's like, but you're the same coach. How are you going to do this?

how are we going to like how does i i don't get how california complains about the school system the school systems but the same people have been in charge for 25 years are complaining about whatever's going on i mean baltimore it's like everybody who's been in charge have been in charge for 40 years and talking about how bad the system is that's hubris yes yes yes okay you're ready to hop to mike let's do it Mike? Hey, guys, getting on. Thanks for taking my phone.

What's going on? Hey, I got a question for you guys about Adderall. I'm taking Deppicoat right now for epilepsy. And I think a couple of side effects. I'm just feeling drowsy throughout the day. And, you know, my main problem is it's hard for me to start my day until like 11 o'clock. Morning is difficult for me. And I was told to look at Adderall as an option, but I know of a long-term.

side effects. It can be pretty dangerous. Have you had your levels of Deppicoe Check lately? Yes. And they're good? Yeah. And you can't do with lower dose? Yes, but that resulted in microceasures.

Okay. And is there anything else they've tried? Like, you know, any other anticeasure meds that they might want to consider or just no way? No. They said that wouldn't be an option. God, there's so many good antiseachia meds that they'd. seizure medication. Have you tried other things? I have not, actually.

And you're seeing a neurologist, right? Yes. And have you complained about the fatigue? Yes. They said that's just a minor side effect, and it might not be related to the drug. Oh, it often causes drowsiness and some fatigue. I guarantee you that's what it is. Number one, and then number two, it's not minor for you. You're really affected by it, and you've got to impress that on your doctors, and now they're going to use a psychostimulant on top of that, which, again, if carefully monitored, whatnot, can be fine if you're, particularly if you're not an addict and you don't have any mood disturbances, it can be

fine, but I wouldn't want to do that if I didn't have to, right? And there are other things, too, you know, the things that are used to treat, I don't for God's sakes, what's the thing where people fall asleep suddenly? Narcolepsy, thank you. Yeah, out there that's fall asleep during you. Maybe a little. Dieter. Thank you.

Maybe a little safer than Adderall. I'm wondering, are you on some kind of restrictive program where they don't have access to a range of medications? No. All right. What's going on in your life, Mike? Sorry, what do you mean by that? School, work, girlfriends, hobbies, loves, passions. Yeah, athlete.

You know, we have school going on as well. But what's your sport? Sometimes I can golf. Funny how you're an answer with athlete. Because people play football just go football and people play basketball or UFC. But athlete, you go with golf. Interesting. How are you at golf?

Sorry? How are you at golf? Pretty good. I'll be turning pro next couple years. Wow. Oh, good. Well, the Adderall might help with that. I mean, maybe that's why they're thinking that way because they want to help you

with focus at the same time as their, you know. I also want to say that 20 for a male is a real bad time. It's a real bad time. It's just a hard. So you wonder if he's depressed making the drowsy days? I don't, listen, I don't know biologically what goes on, but 20-year-old nails are just in no man's land. If you're in college, you're nowhere in college. If you're not in college, you're nowhere in your career.

I mean, there's a handful of guys. You know, I'm sure Seth Rogen was doing what he wanted to do at 20, but everyone else was like, I don't know what I wanted. And it's like this weird, but almost chemical, yes? Yeah. I felt that way when I was 20. Like, I just felt like, I don't even know what I want to do. And I know who would like me.

And here's the reality. Also, you know, 20-year-old chicks want to date 27-year-old, 31-year-old guys that are doing something. And then 17-8-year-old chicks are in high school, you know, you're this weird no-man's land. It's just a bad time. No game used to say. I'm just saying, kind of keep your head down and, you know, use that driver. I don't know. I mean, there's a certain element of this shall pass.

I do feel like when a guy calls me and he's 20, he's telling me he doesn't feel this way and doesn't feel that way. But what do you got from, Drew? I admit this is like provigial and those kinds of things could be an alternative. But, again, I would really sit down and impress upon your physician that you're having side effects that are not working for you. What can be done? You're a little fearful of Adderall. It seems a little sort of extreme. Can you have less?

Could you add a second seizure medication? Could you try that? I'm just careful. There's all so many good seizure medicines now that I would think would work for this issue, or can you reduce the depico? Again, have a big discussion about this. Speaking of golf, I know who should bring this up, and I know they all do it. So it's not a, it's bipartisan. But the president passing the 300 rounds of golf thing.

And you and I, I know this touches a chord for you because you and I both feel the exact same way about golf, which is we're just too busy. I couldn't carve out an entire Sunday to go do that. I can see a scenario where once a year, me and Jimmy Kimmel decide to go to Maui with the old ladies to hang out with the kids and do that. And at some point, somebody makes a golf outing on one of the seven days that were there. That makes sense. That makes sense. But every other weekend, every year for the rest of my life, It feels insane.

You know, somebody said to me, I was at the track last weekend, and they said, you haven't made too many events this year. I usually do about four or five races a year. And they're like, I said, yeah, it's hard. And I'm busy. Like, it's this hard to get out on that weekend and go do the whatever. Back to hubris. I feel like if I was the president, I just would never want to be filmed on a golf course. Like, I would take a picture of me.

100%. Like, I would just. I'd be embarrassed. Right. I mean, you wouldn't be shot smoking a cigarette, you know what I mean? Because you just wouldn't like the message. He's not, right? Well, that's an interesting point, which is he would be eviscerated in the press if somebody took a picture of him smoking a cigarette. Yeah.

But on the links all the time, no problem. And like I said, I would feel self-conscious about that. Average is once every 9.7 days. that ain't every two weeks and if you back out and I guess you would if you think about it I'm not sure I'm just straight up calculating eight years times

this isn't even I mean that's actually a little wrong because I did eight years 365 days divided by 300 rounds it's not been eight years no it's not been eight and he's crossed 300 yeah he paid his 300th round recently so we could be every eight days or seven and a half days this is probably more like, you know, high eights or low nines, but yeah, it's...

Right, but, and I'm not sure if this is retarded math or not, but those are just eight days. We're not, there's only four, there's six of those days are working days, right? Are we, are we doing a... I'm just doing it straight up. Right. But either way, my God, I couldn't imagine. I just couldn't, I couldn't imagine. But I certainly couldn't imagine having it out there, like be known.

You know what I mean? The whole idea is. And I certainly couldn't imagine giving speeches about rolling up your sleeves and getting back to work. Could you? You're that way too. Why is it that all presidents don't seem to have a problem with this? I don't get it. I would, you know, if Trump's in, he'll be playing, you know, five times a week.

my feeling is like, I guess the one good thing about Hillary Clinton is she doesn't golf, as I'm looking at the bright side. Because it drives me nuts as like, you know, the economy's in the tank. People are out of jobs. People are the school system. They're failing. Like, when's my tea time? Hillary works her ass off. That's what I would say.

Like, it does bother me if it was the CEO of a failing corporation playing this much golf, I would have the exact same feeling. Yep. Yes? Yeah. Okay. Until next time, Adam Pearl for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.