The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #421: My Shoulder Was Out Of Socket For 4 Days

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

September 25, 2016Adam and Drew open the show discussing the recent traumatic injury that Adam’s daughter Natalia suffered. After going down memory lane to talk about some of Adam’s childhood injuries the guys turn to the phone and speak to a caller whose sister is suffering from a brain injury. Later they speak to a gentlemen who has a child with a woman who has a drug problem that has led to numerous recent arrests.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Well, another throwback episode. This is September 25, 2016. We talk about recent traumatic injury that Adam's daughter Natalia had suffered. And we take a little walk down memory lane to talk about some of, guess what, Adam's childhood injuries. And we go to the phone and talk to a caller whose sister is suffering from a brain injury. Then we talk to a guy who has a child with a woman who has a drug problem. And that kid has had numerous arrests. A lot to get into in the caller. In this throwback episode, 2016, from September 25th. Check it out. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.

You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but they're going to mandate. Get on. Welcome the show, man. How are you doing, Drewski?

Good. How's the patient? Talking about that? Natalia, yeah. We had to call Drew and get Dr. Spaz on the phone and yeah man. Adam desperately trying to make it nothing. Well, I'm trying to get to an Emmy party, man.

I knew it wasn't going to work any other way. And it was what I feared. I thought, oh, my God, this could be a lot of different things. And I go, I'm not going to try. Bruce, Bruce, get over here. Why were you and Bruce together? We called when Natalia smashed her finger. He had done a podcast with me earlier in the day.

We were doing an analysis. on the This Life podcast, that podcast I do, of some of the things I'd said about medical concerns about the presidential candidates, and he just broke down everyone. It took an hour. It takes an hour to break down all the different concerns we had. That's why the whole thing was just,

the thing was so bizarre. Well, Natalia had smashed her finger. I had dealt with a lot of finger smashing through construction. Yeah. And mechanics and things like that. and the plan everyone always had was they took black electrical tape and they would tape the tip of their finger down. Yeah. And then the nail would fall off.

That's if it's if it's this kind of thing. But the other thing that people get in the can shop. I'll explain what this kind of thing is a slit going up. The front of the nail is pulled off in the customary way from the part that's coming off the tip of the finger. But you can also another characteristic injury in the workplace. is tearing the tip off. Yeah. You tear it off.

And that happens all the time. Well, this was a weird one because now it turns out it wasn't the bone coming through. It was the end of the nail bed. And either way. It needs repair. Either way. Well, it is being repaired surgically. Yeah.

And not that night of. Technically, I probably could have made it to the party. But I couldn't tell what was going on because the amount. amount of blood and everything else. So I taped it shut. But in the world, what most people, most, what everybody does is they go, I didn't know what this is. It looks a little funny to me.

We're going to the ER. I know, but in my world, every time I go to the ER, it's a sad. They tell you to stop doing whatever it is you were doing. Good. No more beach volleyball for you. And then you just go home. Yeah. Well, I've taken the, I play the odds.

I just don't go. Tape it shut, take some time, and I'll go to bed. And then if it's bad, the next morning. I'm not saying you can never go. I'm just saying if it's bad, then you got to go. Yeah, but you lose a window with some of these things. Yeah. So I wasn't going to go, but then we figured, you know what, it's still bleeding.

I'm in the background, like the, like the Costanza wife, you know, yelling at Bruce, like, make them go. I'm going to next. First off, I'm an American hero because the ER is littered with people of indigestion, and I'm the guy staying home with severe cuts and bruises. You know what I mean? Like, I'm the guy just to sleep it off. The heel app that I work with. That would have been good. I didn't know how to use that.

We don't need the heel app. We call you and Dr. Spaz. That's true. You do that. And then they started talking to me about the nail, not growing in right, and blah, blah, blah. That was honest. We were saying that. Yeah.

And then I started thinking, yeah, I guess that now you've got my attention. So because I'm a hero. No, what he said was, you'll be the bad dad. You know how it goes. She'll be a girl with a bad nail. It'll be your fault. You're like, okay, I'm going. Yeah.

Yeah. So I took her. I actually tried to talk Lynette in a woman. It's like she doesn't have the stomach for that stuff. And Natalia. She claimed it was tough for you. Oh, I don't have the stomach for any of that stuff. Like I don't, I don't like fishing because I don't like putting hooks through live bait.

I don't like pulling hooks out of fish. Like I don't like any of that stuff at all. Like I literally can't hunt and can't fish because I can't. can't take an animal and put a hook through it and throw it out in the water. It hurts my teeth. I've always been that way. But your teeth? My teeth.

No, my teeth. No, I've never had any problem, honestly, in injuries to myself. I've had a lot of stitches and a lot of broken stuff and everything. And that part never really bothered me that much, but I bothered by other people's stuff. Didn't you tell me a story of resentment about your parents not taking you in for your shoulder separation? No, my shoulder was separated for four days. They should have taken you on day one. No, they did take me out.

I was taking in an ambulance. I thought part of the story was they didn't take you in. Okay. That's how part of the store was they didn't take you in. Okay. I went off the football. You didn't tell us about that. I don't know. I'm not sure. I also said for Valley first name and I brought that up. Many years ago. Probably many years ago. What was it again?

Allstate value? That's the rather the first team? Uh, all first team. Best first team? If I look it up, you'll be on the first team. Uh, yeah. Okay. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Best defensive player as well. Anyway, I probably hadn't brought that up. No, anyway. You've been very helpful about that. Um, swore has come up at least once, but anyway. Maybe, maybe once. Um, we've been a long.

We had a long. I, I had to go in the, uh, ambulance from the field. I had to, I didn't get carried off of the field. Yeah, yeah. I just, they just rolled. they rolled that gurney they just stopped the game they called an early half time

and they told everyone go to your go to your end zones I remember it well and they're like I guess the dads there wasn't an ambulance there but the dads took a look at me

and went I ain't picking that kid up like his shoulders hanging out so they went and got an ambulance I'm over you it was 11 probably 10 11

and the shoulder was so far out that they were were just like, all the dads just sort of stood back. Like, they're like, I, I'm not qualified to transport a kid whose arms hang out of its socket. And plus, I don't want to hear it because I, you would have heard it if you tried to get me up on my feet. And they just called her at a halftime.

They went and got an ambulance. And then the ambulance rolled out in the field. And, I mean, the gurney rolled out in the field. And they just lowered the gurney. And the guy's just lifted me up and dropped me on to the gurney. And then they put me in the back of the ambulance. They took me in the emergency room. and then they tried to get it back into place.

Yeah. But they couldn't get it back into place. That's dangerous. Which case, back then, also, they didn't have pain killers, really for kids. We had them, but we didn't use them. Well, it would have been nice. You could have broken them out because when your shoulder's out of socket for a prolonged period of time, it's tender. It's exquisitely painful.

Shoulder's a big joint to be out, and it was out for. for days. And what you don't know is that you probably didn't, well, you probably don't know to this case. I could have used a little percocet or something. When the anatomy is disrupted like that, the blood supply can get cut off. The nerves can get disrupted, stretched or broken or, you know, pinched. And they can really injure things.

Well, moving through the shoulder. Shot of Brandi at least would have been, it would have been nice. You were asking for that. They didn't have any pain pills, any pain relief, any, anything. and they sent me home. They said, well, we can't get it back in a place here in this facility. You need to go to an orthopedic specialist. And they didn't call one in, which is weird.

They said, go home. Well, they taped it to me. Just saying, today somebody would show up. I mean, somebody would be in the ER, for sure. Yeah. They just taped it to my arm to me like a mummy. like that guy wrapped with an A-SPAN, like 100 feet long. It just taped it because it couldn't move.

If it moved, it was excruciating. So they had to just tape it to me so it wouldn't move. And then the next day we went to an orthopedic surgeon. And orthopedic surgeon removed this huge... I remember my mom being pissed off the guy. And I was pissed too. The guy removed this huge mummy wrap I had on me. He shot it up and he said, all right, I'm going to give it a shot.

But you only got one shot because it was so brutally painful once they made that move that you couldn't. But he numbed it up, though. It really, I won't say it didn't matter, but I'll say, and I won't say it didn't help, but I'll say it still was excruciating. Did he get it back in? No. Did not get it back in. And then he sent me home with one of those sloth. slings that goes around your neck

and then there's just like a strap figure of eight and then it just goes down to your, not even a sling. Just the one that goes around your neck like a collar and then it goes hoops around your wrist and he took some medical tape and he put a couple pieces of tape to my bare body on the thing and I remember getting

home like going this thing's moving. It's really painful. And I remember like, what an asshole. And thank God my mom is a hippie because that guy wanted that guy wanted to put a pin in. So what happened? My mom, because of her hippie leanings, it's about the only time it paid dividends for me.

It's like, I'm not, well, there's no one you can't pin it. It wasn't broken. It may have been broken as well as it dislocated or whatever it is. He wanted to do surgery. And my mom's like, the kid's 11. He's like, I don't want him to go under the knife. So then it was time to check into a hospital and stay overnight. and then the next morning they would pull it into place.

Under anesthesia or something. Yeah, I was out. And once I was out, they could do whatever they wanted. And that's what they had to do. I have no idea of what they did. But they got it back into place. And then once they got it back into place, there's a little question on whether it was going to grow right

or be right because it's been out for so long. But then the real argument started what I said, I'm playing the next year. And it's so funny. I've had people in the past go, really? And I was like, yeah, I never thought about it. Never thought about worrying about a re-injury. Obviously, I thought about re-injuring myself because it's been brought up several hundred times by everyone around me because of how horrific the first injury was.

But it was not going to affect me playing or not. I was playing in my mind. It was a non-starter discussion. I mean, it was two separate subjects. It's had a horrific injury, and now it's time for my next year of football. And that was it. And I never, I didn't have hesitant. You're going to be a pro football player.

Yeah, I didn't have any hesitation. I was like, of course I'd play. I was kind of confused as to why people were arguing with me not to play. Weird, right? Yeah. I don't think Sonny would react that way. No. Mint Mobile.

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Stacey. 31, North Carolina. What's going on? Hey, guys. I cannot believe I finally got through to you. Anyways, I have a sister who has a five-year-old boy, and he is exhibiting a lot of antisocial behavior and characteristics. And on top of that, my sister has a traumatic brain injury,

sustained in 2007. What happened to her? She was in a car accident with my father. They had left. My husband and I were engaged at the time. We had closed on the house and were moving in and they

helped move us in our house and they drove back to Charlotte from Raleigh and a mile away from their exit. They were hit head on by a person going the wrong way on the highway. at 100 miles an hour. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Wow. What were they driving? What kind of car? A puny-ass vibes. Yeah. I couldn't think of my worst car to be in. Well, if somebody hit them 100 miles an hour, it's...

Yeah, but... So, my sister, my father threw his body over her at the last minute, and, you know, they believe that that's what... I feel like my dad was... lunge at my wallet. My dad's last move. Oh, it's the wallet! Not the wallet.

Well, my sister never has anything. It doesn't have anything. All right, but I like the way you, I like the way you cut of your dad's jibby threw himself over. Yeah, sister. Well, he did. So. What happened to your father? My father died.

So it was part on dash cams because the police are chasing the person. Oh, wow. Oh, caught on dash cam. Oh, my God. That's a wildly mixed blessing. I mean, I guess they can catch a. What happened to the high or drunk criminal? He died.

Oh, that's refreshing. Yeah. So in the end, my sister sustained massive head trauma. Her brain stem was severed, and she had three other separate confusions on her brain. Well, her brain stem wasn't severed or she would not be here. She'd be dead, right? That's instant death. Well, so that's what I was told by ER physicians, that she was not going to survive.

And she was in a coma for two months and some time. My shoulder was out of socket for almost four days. I know. I'm just saying we've all loved and lost, is what I'm saying. So what do we want to do with her? What's the question? All right. So she has a five-year-old, and the five-year-old is definitely exhibiting antisocial characteristics.

He's hitting my children. He'll go up to my 18-month-old and hit him in the face just to see if he can get a rise out of them. And now he's started kindergarten. He is breathing on kids' neck. he's making loud moaning noises in the middle of class, not participating, and just being outright disruptive and poking kids, children wail in pain. What is the question? I am wondering with my sister what I should do because I don't feel she is capable of caring

for him. How is your sister in terms of can she get? it up? Can she take care of herself? Can she make a sandwich? I mean, what's she capable of? She can. But I feel that things have kind of deteriorated. And also, she is using marijuana regularly, driving with my nephew under the influence of marijuana and also drinking heavily, so heavily where she is totally incapacitated and can't walk. Is she driving like that? Pardon?

Is she driving under the influence of alcohol? Yes. Okay. Well, now, here's what you do with that is you call the cops and you ever picked up. Because that's the only way anything's going to change. And the meantime, she's going to die or kill somebody else. Here's, I guess, my point. What do you think she would say if you just confronted her and said, look, I'm worried about the child?

I've done that on so many occasions. My husband and I've sat her down, like, she's 15. Now look, she is brain injured. She's forced into treatment of some type. And that's only going to happen through the legal system. Yeah, I'm assuming. But I always like to say, at least give the person, I'd like to just at least see what their posture is. I'm absolutely with you, but I figure about the time they're calling us that they've been through all that.

Where's the husband, father, whoever? So the father is not in the picture. She left him in 2013 because he was abusing her and the child. All right. So next time she gets in the car, behind the wheel with a loaded. But he doesn't know. She doesn't know. Sorry.

You get the cops. Stacey doesn't know. She doesn't announce when she's driving drunk. She knows that she did. Well, she knows that she did. But true, she doesn't set up a bat signal when she goes out drunk driving. Look, what can she do practically? It's not bad.

The other thing, let's worry about the child then first, which is this child needs a psychiatric assessment. I don't know what you're describing. I don't know if that's autism. I don't know if it's... I don't know what it is. I don't know what that is. He needs a full assessment, and you should use the school to help you leverage that. The school will say this has to get done, and you get it done.

Yes. Yes. I did that Friday. I met with his teachers. Okay. I'm with Drew. I think the school is your avenue. And as I brought my daughter into the emergency room last weekend, I got about 300 questions.

What happened? What happened? What happened again? Tell us what happened again. Where were you? What was your role? What happened in? Oh, you know, I was shooting arrows from a crossbow in the roof, drinking.

I was a warm arm out beating the boy. So I went up top to, you know, drink some vermouth and blow off some steam. You don't know what they see in the emergency room? I'm about that, boy. I was like, you know what's so funny? They kept saying, what happened? What happened here? and my impulse was to answer

because I'm a loudmouth and I'm the adult and I felt like I wanted to tell them what happened but the whole time I just sat there waiting for Natalia knowing she's a loudmouth too let her talk because they want to hear her version not my version so I literally just every time it's like what happened because you'd get the x-ray technician you'd get the nurse you'd get the doctor you'd get the head of the

whatever you get the administrator and every time it's like what happened I just go ahead sweetie and boom she'd tell them what happened speaking of that drow what was the car that that they were driving vibe high this is adam carola from the adam corolla show if you care about soccer you care about moments and the road to the 2006 world cup starts here this week as test matches get on their way as we host some of the biggest names in the sport bet online is where real soccer betting lives. Global markets, sharp odds, and player props built for fans who follow more than just the headlines. Bet Online gives you live betting and in-game odds that shift with every goal, every card, every turning point. As teams fight for their place on the world stage,

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You wonder why this country's fucked up? Oh, it's so insane. It's so insane. I was just, somebody tweeted me a story. It's great. Ram Emanuel, who's, who is he? The mayor of Chicago. Mayor of Chicago.

It's like everyone's shooting everyone in the face over there, you know? So he's going to pipe up and part of the speech of, hey, could everyone stop shooting everyone in the face? He was going to weave in, hey, parents, we need to do a little better job with the kids. Oh, how dare he. The community's outraged. You better rethink that, boy. You better go back and rethink that. I'm glad to hear some leaders are willing to.

Oh, no, he's not willing to do it. He was toying with the idea of doing it, but the point is, it's got to go back and adjust it. How'd you hear about it if he didn't do it? He mentioned, and Gary will find the story. I'm not sure if I favorite tweeted or not. But there was a story that he was during a dedication of some, you know, water treatment facility or something. He can't really sidestep the fact that everyone in his city is shooting everyone in the face. So he's sort of like, I got to discuss this.

I can do the usual talking points of we need libraries to stay open later. Check cashing place to be closed and we need more legislation about guns getting in the hands of. But at some point I'm going to have to at least brush up against the root of the problem, which is parents doing a piss poor job raising kids. Again, the root. Why are they doing a poor job? What's the situation there in causing them? to be. Well, daddy's not around.

Mama's overwhelmed. But again, your 15-16-year-old thinks it's a good idea to shoot an elderly guy and pull the wall out of his right. I'm going to go way out on a limb and not blame the gun manufacturer for that. I'm just going to go ahead and blame the 15-16-year-old. Or I'll just go ahead out on a limb and say, even if that kid could not get his hands on a firearm, we would still have a very dangerous individual roaming around if you thought it was a good idea to assault elderly people and pull. while it's out of their pants while they were assault. Shoot them in the face.

Well, if they didn't have a gun, what I'm saying. They didn't have a gun. But I mean, it's the same guy that thinks it's okay. To be fair to the lad, he shot him in the belly while he was on the ground. So there's some humanity left. But either way, Ari was going to discuss, Ram, sorry, Ari's his agent brother. Rom was going to discuss the possibility of parents. Asian brother.

Potentially doing a better job. Agent, brother. Yeah, he was, it was a dedicated. for a new public works project, and the press was asking him after if an upcoming speech in a few days was going to be speaking about this. He said their significance in making sure that our kids have the right kinds of role models and values in their lives so that they can make decisions today that will impact their lives in an appropriate, positive way. And then a ton of black community leaders came out saying. He almost didn't even say anything. He didn't even say anything.

He was basically saying, I'm going to say something next week. And then in the interim, a bunch of black leaders came up, and he announced that he has made some revisions. True. When you have a horrible diagnosis, do I head you off in the hallway and go, hey, let me look at that. Let me look at that chest x-ray. Oh, no, no, no. Take this back. Here's his quote.

We got chain smoker in the next room. You're not sharing this with them. Go out there. Wait, you got a Sharpie? Go fix this up. Come back. Change your attitude. Right.

By the way, the guy who's, the chain smoker standing out in the parking lot, smoking, waiting for the check. X-S-ray. Is that going to fix things? You doctoring up the x-ray? Hey, I'm outraged. Take that x-ray back. Fix it. Yeah. Okay. That's a path called the path to success, fellas, don't you know? After the blowback, his quote was, there's no doubt that jobs and economic development are a key part of making sure people have hope where there is despair, Emmanuel said. The mayor said he's delayed his public safety speech until Thursday to get more input on where he should put the focus. Quote, you want to get it right and you want to make sure everybody gets a chance to weigh in, Emmanuel said. That's right. That's right. That's why you're the mayor. So you can just listen to everyone.

I'll weigh in. Let him take the heat. Everyone wants to get it right. All right. Well, anyway, everyone, all your constituency can just shoot each other in their face. Until you get it right? All right. All right.

Hey, he'll get it right. He'll get it right. No, I'm not talking to Billy over here. All right. Wait on them. All right, go ahead. Billy 30, Indiana. Hey, guys.

Get it on. Hey, man. What's going on? Oh, not a lot. I got some problems with my baby mom. Mm-hmm. He started out on a... I've known her for a while.

I've known she was always into drugs and stuff. So usually meth often starts as heavy pot. Really? Yeah. Why meth or why pot? How does it isn't heavy pot? That's not sort of... That's not sort of...

Go everywhere, or it just... No, because it starts to make them really depressed. Heavy. It's really depressed, and they'd love... it, they don't want to stop it, so they find something to keep it going. That's the mess. Did she start with heavy pot? I don't necessarily think so.

She's just had a history. Yes, and, Drew. As a teenager, like, she was, I always know Benzo, X, whatever. Ugh. All right. So how old's your child? How old's your child? So my daughter is three and a half.

Yeah, it's terrible. How long has she been on meth? She got arrested four times since last October. How long she got on meth? I would say probably two years at least. She was on, okay, she was getting an Adderall prescription. Oh, my God. She was getting a X-Aderall prescription.

They were like the 50 milligram X-Rs. Killing me. I know. I know. I know. I know. I don't know why this doctor would give her. Oh, please.

Don't even, don't even ask. Why does anybody get opiates? Well, Billy, are you, how are you, you're not living together. Are you living together? No, no, it was kind of just a fling. I didn't even know she was pregnant until she was eight months pregnant. All right. So now I really wish, so she was eight months pregnant?

What can we do for this child? Oh, it was a fling. He wasn't with her. Yeah, but he said that you, but I didn't know she, no, he didn't know. I mean, she was gone and she came and showed up eight months later. Yeah. She planned she didn't know for a while. I suspect she probably knew just was hiding it or whatever.

All right. Well, let's figure out what to do with the kids. So much rather she stayed on pot than any of those cities. Well, it's unclear if she's even doing a lot of pot. I'm just saying. Well, Billy. I'm clearly just doing custody. She was in jail for a while, but I was still letting her go to her Grammys,

her mom's mom. And she's pretty much The grandma, grannies. Yeah. Grammy is what she calls her. Yeah, we got it. And got it. Hillbelly for Nana.

So I'm still kind of going back and forth and getting her like my three days a weekend, but I'm pursuing full custody with the lawyer. Yeah. I just want to know, like, how should I transition her into living with me more? And, like. The three and a half year old? Yeah. They're rubber. They'll transition in 10 days.

You, you, I mean it. I mean, but that's provided you're stable. Yeah, you're stable and you're providing and you're keeping active and doing stuff. I mean, kids. Putting her in daycare is not the answer. Kids are basically whores if you really think about it. I mean. Really, tell me how.

Well, I swear to God, I think my kids could happily move in with my wife's friend Jody, but they love Jody and Jody's fun and she's got blonde hair and she takes them to the farmer's market and stuff like that. They just go move in with her and start horning themselves out to Jody. She's better than both of us. I think she's better than both of us. Right. Jody and Olga are going to come in there and Jimmy. Jimmy would underwrite the whole thing.

Yeah, my daughter just made it clear to me. She'll take Jimmy like any day of the week. What'd you say? I saw some space in that barnold, man. Watch a piece and cues. Yeah. She's like, you know, I said to her once, like, hey, who's got it better than you, baby? And she's like, Jimmy does.

It's like, oh, well, okay. Yeah, he's doing better. And so the kids are pretty resilient. I mean, look, they can be adopted, especially when they're coming out of a shithole. So, you know, consistent, nurturing, all the stuff she wasn't getting and taking care of business. All right. Now some 5-4th, okay. Until next time, Adam Croll for Dr.

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